Time to start the thread of the future.
What are we looking at?
Petrino - no interim tag
Gruden - wants SEC
Gundy - hard pass
Lashlee - decent pick
Mal-a-zahn - divisive
Nutt - loves the helmet until he doesn't
My wife has a vote in for Kliff Kingsbury.
Hate to say it, but it will be underwhelming. Please prove me wrong.
Calapari & Saban are quite the pair of icons.
Saban with Bobby as OC.
More seriously, I hope we swing for the fences. We landed Cal.
Bret was a disaster but he had a great record at Wisconsin and we snatched him from there (as opposed to the unemployment line).
If Bobby finds the old spark for the rest of this season, I'm good giving him back the keys that never should have been taken from him.
I just want no part of the Gus family of coaches.
The way we do things, I figure when the next coach is announced, we will be going , "Who?"
Give Petrino 3 years at the helm is my vote.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 01:54 PMSaban with Bobby as OC.
More seriously, I hope we swing for the fences. We landed Cal.
Bret was a disaster but he had a great record at Wisconsin and we snatched him from there (as opposed to the unemployment line).
If Bobby finds the old spark for the rest of this season, I'm good giving him back the keys that never should have been taken from him.
I just want no part of the Gus family of coaches.
This right here.
There are actual fans online calling for... Gundy. Yup, the guy so bad at Okie Lite that they canned him before we canned Pittman. I don't know who the next HC should be, but should NOT be a wash out. I also do NOT want any of the Gus bus in town. I don't think Lunney Jr would go well here, either.
I've seen several talking about Kinne, but I know nothing about him.
And the next coach needs to be young and not nearing retirement age. Fuck giving these old bastages retirement packages to do nothing.
Other's that will likely be interested
Jeff Traylor
Dan Mullen
Kendall Briles
Quote from: Son of Spam on Sep 28, 2025, 02:04 PMAnd the next coach needs to be young and not nearing retirement age. Fuck giving these old bastages retirement packages to do nothing.
that's where I'm at. give a younger guy 4 years, a competitive salary a manageable buyout.
if he works out you got a guy that you pay to stick around, if not you don't have to hear all this we're broke shit.
Ryan Silverfield
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 02:01 PMThis right here.
There are actual fans online calling for... Gundy. Yup, the guy so bad at Okie Lite that they canned him before we canned Pittman. I don't know who the next HC should be, but should NOT be a wash out. I also do NOT want any of the Gus bus in town. I don't think Lunney Jr would go well here, either.
I've seen several talking about Kinne, but I know nothing about him.
I asked Grok what it thought our best options were. It came back with:
1) Lashlee
2) Sumerall
3) Gus
4) Golesh
I asked specifically about Kinne and it put him as dark horse behind those 4 as options.
Quote from: Lurk on Sep 28, 2025, 02:09 PMRyan Silverfield
I'm just not that high on him. Living in the market where he is coach, he just doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in me to be able to handle this job on this scale. He reminds me of their Josh Pastner hire. Not that he hasn't done really well here, but it's not been too hard to win and has been paved a pretty good road of past success from previous coaches. Had he come in from outside and sustained the success, I might feel a little different. Idk. I could be wrong but just my gut.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 02:13 PMI asked Grok what it thought our best options were. It came back with:
1) Lashlee
2) Sumerall
3) Gus
4) Golesh
I asked specifically about Kinne and it put him as dark horse behind those 4 as options.
* improve prompt? *
Pedo St wants to fire Pitbull.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 28, 2025, 02:18 PMI'm just not that high on him. Living in the market where he is coach, he just doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in me to be able to handle this job on this scale. He reminds me of their Josh Pastner hire. Not that he hasn't done really well here, but it's not been too hard to win and has been paved a pretty good road of past success from previous coaches. Had he come in from outside and sustained the success, I might feel a little different. Idk. I could be wrong but just my gut.
I like Silverfield and feel like he's been mistreated as far as criticism in Memphis. He's won and I think with a different NIL budget and conference, he might be really good. He'd for sure be on my short list.
Memphis wants so badly to get into a power conference but nobody wants them and that's not happening anytime soon. Also motivation for Silverfield to leave.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 02:05 PMOther's that will likely be interested
Jeff Traylor
Dan Mullen
Kendall Briles
Wasn't it Briles' offense that could go up and down the field ... but only between the 20s, and then get inside red zone and completely collapse? Rope a dope, too much movement and get like one yard Briles?
He can take that to okie state.
Yep. He did OC the Horn Frogs to national runner up. He'll get a HC at some point.
Okie lite would be a good spot for him.
I would like someone that needs to prove themselves for whom Arkansas isn't the dream job. We've had too many that got here and relaxed. Need someone that's hungry.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 02:29 PMPedo St wants to fire Pitbull.
Winning all of our games besides the big ones would be a step in the right direction, but too many of our games are big on some level.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 02:13 PMI asked Grok what it thought our best options were. It came back with:
1) Lashlee
2) Sumerall
3) Gus
4) Golesh
I asked specifically about Kinne and it put him as dark horse behind those 4 as options.
Laslee does nothing for me. I've watched many SMU games and they look like like us, all offense and defense is an afterthought. Thats not going to work in the SEC.
With a 9 game SEC slate, they will almost all be big games.
That said, we could hire worse.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 02:29 PMPedo St wants to fire Pitbull.
I'm sure they'll be plenty of takers.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Sep 28, 2025, 02:27 PM* improve prompt? *
Ask and ye shall receive. Here's the prompt and response:
Quote from: PromptBased on performances and what you know of the Arkansas razorbacks, having just fired Sam Pittman, who would you recommend be the best new head coach options for the Arkansas football program? Ideally a young coach, and ignore regional ties in your analysis.
Quote from: ResponseArkansas Razorbacks Head Coaching Search: Top Young Recommendations Post-Pittman Firing
The Arkansas Razorbacks' decision to fire Sam Pittman on September 28, 2025—after a 2-3 start capped by a 56-13 rout at home against Notre Dame—signals a desperate pivot for a program mired in SEC irrelevance, with just one bowl win since 2021 and defensive collapses allowing 35+ points in three of five games this season. Pittman's 32-37 record stabilized the Hogs but couldn't deliver sustained contention, leaving AD Hunter Yurachek to target a transformative hire amid $100M+ facilities and NIL pressures. Focusing on young coaches (under 45) with proven program-building chops—based purely on on-field results, scheme innovation, and recruiting efficiency—here are my top four recommendations. These emphasize offensive firepower to offset talent gaps and defensive coordinators who've shown HC potential, drawn from emerging hot boards.
1. Rhett Lashlee (SMU Head Coach, Age 36) – Premier Young Innovator
• Performance Rationale: Lashlee has engineered SMU's meteoric rise, posting 25-13 over three seasons (including 11-3 and a CFP quarterfinal in 2024), with top-15 national offenses averaging 38.2 PPG via no-huddle spreads, RPOs, and vertical passing—directly addressing Arkansas's 24.8 PPG malaise. His 2019 SMU squad ranked 27th in SP+ efficiency, and he's elevated QBs like Preston Stone to 4,000-yard seasons, showcasing adaptability for SEC dual-threats.
• Pros: Explosive scheme masks defensive shortcomings (SMU's D improved 15% in points allowed from 2023-24); top-25 recruiting classes blending speed and size; low-risk youth for long-term buy-in.
• Cons: Limited HC tenure means untested in multi-year slumps; pass-heavy lean could expose run-game weaknesses against elite fronts.
• Fit Projection: Immediate 8-4 bump via tempo; $6-7M salary feasible with SMU's modest buyout.
2. Alex Golesh (South Florida Head Coach, Age 38) – Balanced Rebuilder
• Performance Rationale: Golesh flipped a 2-10 USF into 9-4 contenders in 2024 (projecting 8-4+ in 2025), ranking top-20 in total yards (425+ per game) with a pro-style attack emphasizing play-action boots and gap runs—rooted in his Tennessee OC success (2022 SEC East title share, 34.5 PPG). Defensively, he's upgraded from 95th to 55th in scoring allowance, proving holistic oversight.
• Pros: Versatile scheme suits pocket passers or scramblers; efficient recruiter (top-40 classes, high retention); embodies NIL-savvy energy without drama.
• Cons: G5 schedule inflates stats slightly; needs proven coordinators to scale SEC physicality.
• Fit Projection: Steady climb to 7-5 in Year 1, accelerating with Arkansas's O-line depth; affordable $4-5M entry point.
3. G.J. Kinne (Texas State Head Coach, Age 36) – Offensive Dynamo
• Performance Rationale: Kinne's transformed Texas State from 4-8 to 8-5 (2023 bowl win) and a projected 7-5+ in 2025, with back-to-back top-60 offenses (35.1 PPG) blending Air Raid quick games and zone reads—mirroring his Liberty OC explosion (11-2 in 2021, 13th in yards per play). He's boosted QB efficiency by 20% annually, turning middling talent into explosive units.
• Pros: High-tempo innovation creates mismatches; strong player development (e.g., Jordan McCloud's 3,500-yard jump); budget-friendly with G5 upside for rapid growth.
• Cons: Defenses lag (75th in points allowed); zero P5 head experience risks early growing pains.
• Fit Projection: Quick-strike offense for 7-5 debut; pairs well with a veteran DC hire for balance.
4. Jon Sumrall (Tulane Head Coach, Age 44) – Complete Program Architect
• Performance Rationale: Sumrall's delivered Tulane's best stretch in decades—23-4 through 2024 (Cotton Bowl berth), with balanced attacks averaging 37.2 PPG and top-25 defenses (18.5 points allowed). His Troy tenure (17-8, two bowls) featured Air Raid-gap hybrids that ranked top-10 in efficiency, sustaining success across talent levels.
• Pros: End-to-end control (offense up 12%, defense down 20% in scoring year-over-year); elite culture-builder with 85% retention; scalable to SEC without overhaul.
• Cons: Borderline "young" at 44; G5-to-P5 leap uncharted, though his Vanderbilt/Indiana coordinator roots provide polish.
• Fit Projection: 8-4 floor with bowl pedigree; $5M buyout leaves recruiting budget intact.
Quick Notes
• Avoids: Older retreads like Gus Malzahn (60) or splashy risks like Jon Gruden—prioritizing youth for a 5-7 year horizon over short-term hype.
• Path Forward: With Bobby Petrino interim through Ole Miss (Oct. 11), expect Yurachek to interview these by mid-October. A young hire like Lashlee could spark 40,000+ sellouts via offensive fireworks, but success hinges on poaching top coordinators. The Hogs need wins, not nostalgia—WPS.
Kingsbury might be interesting. He's a pretty good pro oc. Surely he's a more well rounded coach now than when he was at tech.
Golesh -usf
Ginne -tx st
Morris -N tx
Retards are gonna retard. This is on nobville in response to Porkatarian being 100% wrong again, saying we didn't have the funds to fire Sam.
QuoteHe wasn't wrong. At the time of his announcement, he told 100% truth. If the money was procured then, Sam would have known then.
I believe Yurachek was most likely in the process of letting those know who wanted Sam gone then the cost and that the funds weren't secured.
Sometime late last evening or this morning, someone decided it couldn't wait and let Yurachek know they would fund his removal.
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 28, 2025, 02:30 PMWasn't it Briles' offense that could go up and down the field ... but only between the 20s, and then get inside red zone and completely collapse? Rope a dope, too much movement and get like one yard Briles?
He can take that to okie state.
Yes. And he like going east/west for three yard games. He is a terrible OC.
Briles' offense would move the ball 40 yards for a 3 yard gain.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 28, 2025, 03:20 PMYes. And he like going east/west for three yard games. He is a terrible OC.
Dont forget the triple handoff, fake pass, run for a 6 yard loss at the most inappropriate time. Always some dumbassed trick play to seal our fate.
Can we all agree that we do not want a coach with no head coaching experience?
Anyone else think Kingsbury could do well here with nil?
He'd make the panties drop faster than Joey freshwater.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 01:54 PMSaban with Bobby as OC.
More seriously, I hope we swing for the fences. We landed Cal.
Bret was a disaster but he had a great record at Wisconsin and we snatched him from there (as opposed to the unemployment line).
If Bobby finds the old spark for the rest of this season, I'm good giving him back the keys that never should have been taken from him.
I just want no part of the Gus family of coaches.
Here you go:
https://x.com/boardgeniuses/status/1972349971652596129?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:25 PMCan we all agree that we do not want a coach with no head coaching experience?
Anyone else think Kingsbury could do well here with nil?
He'd make the panties drop faster than Joey freshwater.
Failed head coach. No thanks.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 28, 2025, 03:13 PMRetards are gonna retard. This is on nobville in response to Porkatarian being 100% wrong again, saying we didn't have the funds to fire Sam.
He was right but things changed.
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Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 28, 2025, 03:26 PMHere you go:
https://x.com/boardgeniuses/status/1972349971652596129?
80 year old head coach. No thanks.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 28, 2025, 03:26 PMHere you go:
https://x.com/boardgeniuses/status/1972349971652596129?
Saban has more money than Jefferson Davis. He ain't coming out of that cushy job he has on Gameday to get back into the grind of coaching again. He is still a better coach than 99% of the ones in the field today, but I think he is comfortable and is a hero in Bama. Hell, he owns the state.
I'd like a younger coach who can navigate this new reality in college football, not a older guy like Gundy or Gus. I'd be fine with Lashlee, Sumrall, Golesh or Silverfield. Honestly, we need to replace Yuracheeks. Instead of someone whining and crying, we need someone who can raise money.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 28, 2025, 03:27 PMFailed head coach. No thanks.
I didn't say a failed head coach. I'd like a young up and comer that had head man experience over a coordinator.
from the athletic via bruce feldman:
SMU's Rhett Lashlee
Lashlee has the support of one of the biggest Hogs supporters. Industry sources told The Athletic this weekend that Jerry Jones — as in the Dallas Cowboys owner and former Razorbacks offensive lineman — and his family are squarely behind getting Lashlee to Arkansas. The 42-year-old Arkansas native, a former Razorbacks quarterback, is 31-14 at SMU and led the Mustangs to the College Football Playoff last season.
We suspect it's his job if he wants it. Can he turn it down? He has a lot of traction at SMU after going 11-3 last season. However, at 2-2 this season, would he consider the timing ideal if he were ever to return home?
A path to the CFP seems much more manageable from the ACC via Dallas than it does from the SEC via Fayetteville, where the job feels like it ranks in the bottom-third of the league. That's behind Alabama, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss and probably Auburn and maybe Missouri.
history repeating itself?
Jones needs to stay out of it.
his take on petrino:
Arkansas OC and interim coach Bobby Petrino
Petrino is the wildest of wild cards. He's 64. He's scandal-ridden. He's a punchline. However, the school approved his return as offensive coordinator last season, put him in charge for the remainder of this season and indicated that he would be considered for the full-time job.
In his first stint at Arkansas, he went from 5-7 in his first season in 2008 to 11-2 and No. 5 in the nation in his fourth season before all heck broke loose when he got on that motorcycle.
He has a bye week to get this team ready for a trip to No. 15 Tennessee. Then, it's No. 6 Texas A&M. Then, Auburn and Mississippi State, before the Hogs finish at No. 13 LSU, at No. 9 Texas and then No. 19 Mizzou. That's five top 20 teams, plus an MSU team that's beaten Arizona State and given the Vols all they could handle.
If Petrino can get the Hogs to win at least four of those seven and become bowl-eligible, could they convince themselves to give him the job again? Doubtful, but it's Petrino, and it's Arkansas. Literally nothing is off the table.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:27 PMHe was right but things changed.
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Sounds like a certain poster on here.
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 28, 2025, 02:30 PMWasn't it Briles' offense that could go up and down the field ... but only between the 20s, and then get inside red zone and completely collapse? Rope a dope, too much movement and get like one yard Briles?
He can take that to okie state.
Yeah, he would kill drives in some impressively stupid ways too.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Sep 28, 2025, 03:30 PMSaban has more money than Jefferson Davis. He ain't coming out of that cushy job he has on Gameday to get back into the grind of coaching again. He is still a better coach than 99% of the ones in the field today, but I think he is comfortable and is a hero in Bama. Hell, he owns the state.
No, but we might could tempt him to come in and teach this fucking department how to build a winning program and department. Like a consultant... but actually give him the reigns to implement changes. Hell, maybe he'd like to be an AD? lol.
Petrino should be given time to try again. There wasn't a single reason to fire him given the source of the action was Jeff Long, a dastardly son of a bitch.
That said, Dan Mullen should be the singular target.
Not sold on Gruden, even though it's obvious that he wants the job. The thickening of his skin and creeping rosatia on his face indicates to me that he's an alcoholic.
I couldn't stand a lot of Kendal Briles play calls because he'd get too cute, but he produced good results. The offense looked sharp and well-coached under him. The beginning of the end for Pittman was his departure. If we are going the coordinator route, then Briles should be the only person we consider. He's familiar with the program and anything we offer will be a raise.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 03:55 PMNo, but we might could tempt him to come in and teach this fucking department how to build a winning program and department. Like a consultant... but actually give him the reigns to implement changes. Hell, maybe he'd like to be an AD? lol.
Gm would be fantastic
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Sep 28, 2025, 03:57 PMPetrino should be given time to try again. There wasn't a single reason to fire him given the source of the action was Jeff Long, a dastardly son of a bitch.
That said, Dan Mullen should be the singular target.
Not sold on Gruden, even though it's obvious that he wants the job. The thickening of his skin and creeping rosatia on his face indicates to me that he's an alcoholic.
I couldn't stand a lot of Kendal Briles play calls because he'd get too cute, but he produced good results. The offense looked sharp and well-coached under him. The beginning of the end for Pittman was his departure. If we are going the coordinator route, then Briles should be the only person we consider. He's familiar with the program and anything we offer will be a raise.
How is it obvious Gruden wants the job? Dan Mullen?? Really? Why?
Kendal Briles sucked and couldn't score in the red zone, remember? Offense didn't look sharp or well coached to me at all.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:59 PMGm would be fantastic
he still has an office in the bama football complex. if he's going to be a gm, i figure it would be there.
in fact i wouldn't doubt he is the gm.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 04:01 PMHow is it obvious Gruden wants the job? Dan Mullen?? Really? Why?
Kendal Briles sucked and couldn't score in the red zone, remember? Offense didn't look sharp or well coached to me at all.
Seriously, how long have you even been on this board? Did you never eat at Powerhouse?
arkansas football.
the most exciting time is when nobody knows what the fuck is going on, lol.
If Saban wants to do it...fuck it let him do it and pay that man his money.
If Petrino wins at least 3 games with this bunch he should be coach of the planet
Beyond those two I'd rather have a up and comer that's proven something as a head coach
Dan Mullen could never figure out QB at either MSU or Florida. If it weren't for Dak I don't know that he would have ever really had a guy at MSU. I mean I guess he wouldn't be the worst hire but I think we could do better. Who's getting excited for Dan Mullen?
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Sep 28, 2025, 04:07 PMSeriously, how long have you even been on this board? Did you never eat at Powerhouse?
Long enough to know it ain't done til the tie has been sighted.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 02:37 PMAsk and ye shall receive. Here's the prompt and response:
:sarcasm:
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Sep 28, 2025, 04:12 PM:sarcasm:
/shrug. My mom took Tylenol when she was pregnant with me.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Sep 28, 2025, 03:30 PMSaban has more money than Jefferson Davis. He ain't coming out of that cushy job he has on Gameday to get back into the grind of coaching again. He is still a better coach than 99% of the ones in the field today, but I think he is comfortable and is a hero in Bama. Hell, he owns the state.
Maybe he would want to be a hero in another state. He's got Louisiana and Alabama already.
Quote from: Lurk on Sep 28, 2025, 04:20 PMMaybe he would want to be a hero in another state. He's got Louisiana and Alabama already.
I would hire him to just break down tape to these guys and tell them where they are fucking up.
Y'all aren't taking that post about Saban seriously, are you? It's a joke, people.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Sep 28, 2025, 03:57 PMPetrino should be given time to try again. There wasn't a single reason to fire him given the source of the action was Jeff Long, a dastardly son of a bitch.
That said, Dan Mullen should be the singular target.
Not sold on Gruden, even though it's obvious that he wants the job. The thickening of his skin and creeping rosatia on his face indicates to me that he's an alcoholic.
I couldn't stand a lot of Kendal Briles play calls because he'd get too cute, but he produced good results. The offense looked sharp and well-coached under him. The beginning of the end for Pittman was his departure. If we are going the coordinator route, then Briles should be the only person we consider. He's familiar with the program and anything we offer will be a raise.
Briles as OC under Petrino might work because BMFP could "direct" him to cut out the cute shit and stick to what works.
Briles isn't up for learning a playbook.
I'm not for Briles at all. The master of the double reverse pass two yards behind the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 4...
bring in that entire Memphis staff
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 28, 2025, 04:27 PMY'all aren't taking that post about Saban seriously, are you? It's a joke, people.
No.
I'd rather have Lunney Lite over Briles Lite but I'd really love to think we could do better.
Based on the last several hires, I wouldn't be surprised if Arkansas shocked everybody and hired Deion Sanders.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 04:35 PMbring in that entire Memphis staff
I'd be on board with that.
This time right now is why teh woppsuuy was saved.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 04:35 PMbring in that entire Memphis staff
We could do a lot worse and there's a good chance they're going somewhere else after this year.
No to the Memphis coach.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 28, 2025, 05:15 PMNo to the Memphis coach.
I was at that game. I wasn't impressed by anything. I mean, particularly us, but not them either.
I'd prefer Mullen over Gus or Gus lite.
I was too and neither was I. Beating a poorly coached Pittman team should not be part of the criteria for getting the job.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 28, 2025, 05:22 PMI was too and neither was I. Beating a poorly coached Pittman team should not be part of the criteria for getting the job.
yep, incredibly low bar.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:47 PMfrom the athletic via bruce feldman:
SMU's Rhett Lashlee
Lashlee has the support of one of the biggest Hogs supporters. Industry sources told The Athletic this weekend that Jerry Jones — as in the Dallas Cowboys owner and former Razorbacks offensive lineman — and his family are squarely behind getting Lashlee to Arkansas. The 42-year-old Arkansas native, a former Razorbacks quarterback, is 31-14 at SMU and led the Mustangs to the College Football Playoff last season.
We suspect it's his job if he wants it. Can he turn it down? He has a lot of traction at SMU after going 11-3 last season. However, at 2-2 this season, would he consider the timing ideal if he were ever to return home?
A path to the CFP seems much more manageable from the ACC via Dallas than it does from the SEC via Fayetteville, where the job feels like it ranks in the bottom-third of the league. That's behind Alabama, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss and probably Auburn and maybe Missouri.
history repeating itself?
Watch the Dallas Cowboys and that will tell you all you need to know about how much Jerry Jones knows about football.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Sep 28, 2025, 05:35 PMWatch the Dallas Cowboys and that will tell you all you need to know about how much Jerry Jones knows about football.
if he's really willing to bankroll the deal, no one in the bot is going to care about that.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 05:39 PMif he's really willing to bankroll the deal, no one in the bot is going to care about that.
This.
Lashlee plus significant NIL from the Jones family could move the needle.
Sumrall and Fort Knox for coaching staff and NIL for players.
Buy the best defensive line humanly possible.
Thought about this while doing yard work tonight. This hire is going to define what kind of program we want to be. We sleep walked into Petrino. Other than that it has mostly been taking a shot on a coach and hope it works out.
We've been in the SEC for 33 years with very little success. It's going to take a commitment to bring in a coach that is expected to succeed and arm him with the NIL to compete in the SEC. Pretty much we need to do what OM has done. If we don't, you know what to expect and we'll be right back here in 3-4 years.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 07:26 PMThought about this while doing yard work tonight. This hire is going to define what kind of program we want to be. We sleep walked into Petrino. Other than that it has mostly been taking a shot on a coach and hope it works out.
We've been in the SEC for 33 years with very little success. It's going to take a commitment to bring in a coach that is expected to succeed and arm him with the NIL to compete in the SEC. Pretty much we need to do what OM has done. If we don't, you know what to expect and we'll be right back here in 3-4 years.
I'd argue that we tried the conventional route with Bert. It was a bad fit but as good a hire as you could expect on paper. At about the same time OM hired Freeze from ASU (a year ahead) and then Auburn hired Gus from ASU. Neither compared with our hire...again on paper.
We do need to go all in with the financial commitment whoever we hire. If not we might as well stop trying.
Agree Bert was the closest, but even that took a love letter from him. We've never initiated a solid hire.
We're past the buyout issues we've had. Time to commit to winning.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 28, 2025, 04:27 PMY'all aren't taking that post about Saban seriously, are you? It's a joke, people.
I'm sure an embarrassingly sized portion of our fan base thinks it's in the realm of possibility.
Saban himself has been outspoken about how his last season at Bama was the most miserable of his coaching career. He hated NIL and the portal with a passion, said all kids cared about anymore was what they were going to get paid, and that he believed he was working himself into an early grave.
If (and that's a stretch) he ever came back to coaching, it's not going to be at a program like ours. The guy hasn't lost to us since W's first term.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 05:20 PMI'd prefer Mullen over Gus or Gus lite.
At least Mullen and Gus would bring a hate boner for an opposing SEC team.
I'm tired of being at least one SEC coach's personal vendetta. Let's flip the script for a change.
That said, I don't want either.
I'd like better as well.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 28, 2025, 06:21 PMThis.
Lashlee plus significant NIL from the Jones family could move the needle.
Correct. He's nowhere near the top of my list but if he secures major NIL money then he's the only choice. I think Bobby would coach circles around him with the same NIL budget. So would Gundy. And yes, I would prefer someone younger than either of them but I don't think Lashlee is on their level.
Right now, I kinda like Golesh.
Quote from: jethro on Sep 28, 2025, 08:17 PMRight now, I kinda like Golesh.
I like that Florida would hate us hiring him
It's time. Come home.
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Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 29, 2025, 04:36 AMIt's time. Come home.
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Thank you for my first laugh of the day. This is why I pay my woopig dues.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:47 PMLashlee has the support of one of the biggest Hogs supporters. Industry sources told The Athletic this weekend that Jerry Jones — as in the Dallas Cowboys owner and former Razorbacks offensive lineman — and his family are squarely behind getting Lashlee to Arkansas. The 42-year-old Arkansas native, a former Razorbacks quarterback, is 31-14 at SMU and led the Mustangs to the College Football Playoff last season.
If Jones is so high on Lashlee, why hasn't he been offered a spot on the Cowboys' staff? Or has he? Agree with Son of Spam...Jones needs to stay out of it. He's been on record saying he's not giving to NIL at Arkansas.
I know no one asked and it probably means little to nothing to the vast majority, but I've been on the field with all of the following (of the names listed in this thread so far) and I would choose GJ Kinne based on my interactions with them. I think some of them would be fine, but I think a young, up-and-comer trying to prove himself is what is needed right now. Kinne fits that bill.
Petrino, Lashlee , Malzahn, Nutt, Saban, Mullen, Sumerall, Pitbull, Briles, Kinne
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 29, 2025, 09:58 AMIf Jones is so high on Lashlee, why hasn't he been offered a spot on the Cowboys' staff? Or has he? Agree with Son of Spam...Jones needs to stay out of it. He's been on record saying he's not giving to NIL at Arkansas.
I know no one asked and it probably means little to nothing to the vast majority, but I've been on the field with all of the following (of the names listed in this thread so far) and I would choose GJ Kinne based on my interactions with them. I think some of them would be fine, but I think a young, up-and-comer trying to prove himself is what is needed right now. Kinne fits that bill.
Petrino, Lashlee , Malzahn, Nutt, Saban, Mullen, Sumerall, Pitbull, Briles, Kinne
thanks. i always like your input. winning 8 games at texas state in back to back seasons is a fanfuckingtastic job, especially considering they just moved up from fcs to wac to sunbelt between 2011 and 2013. that place has always been a perennial door mat. they won more than 7 games once back in the fcs southland conference. before that you have to go back to when they were d-2 in the early 80's
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 29, 2025, 09:58 AMIf Jones is so high on Lashlee, why hasn't he been offered a spot on the Cowboys' staff? Or has he? Agree with Son of Spam...Jones needs to stay out of it. He's been on record saying he's not giving to NIL at Arkansas.
I know no one asked and it probably means little to nothing to the vast majority, but I've been on the field with all of the following (of the names listed in this thread so far) and I would choose GJ Kinne based on my interactions with them. I think some of them would be fine, but I think a young, up-and-comer trying to prove himself is what is needed right now. Kinne fits that bill.
Petrino, Lashlee , Malzahn, Nutt, Saban, Mullen, Sumerall, Pitbull, Briles, Kinne
Whoa!! You know Mr. Worldwide?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 10:08 AMthanks. i always like your input. winning 8 games at texas state in back to back seasons is a fanfuckingtastic job, especially considering they just moved up from fcs to wac to sunbelt between 2011 and 2013. that place has always been a perennial door mat. they won more than 8 games once back in the fcs southland conference. before that you have to go back to when they were d-2 in the early 80's
The first time I went down there, I couldn't understand why they weren't any good. They have pretty good facilities and are right in the middle of Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin. They should be getting a ton of players who just didn't quite make it at Texas, A&M, TCU, Baylor, etc. With NIL, that has changed some, but I think they should still be able to pick up some of those. I'm not sure if Kinne has done that or not, but he's doing something right to turn the program around.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Sep 29, 2025, 10:25 AMWhoa!! You know Mr. Worldwide?
Refresh my memory...which one is Mr Worldwide?
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 29, 2025, 10:28 AMRefresh my memory...which one is Mr Worldwide?
It was my attempt at humor:
Nicknames for the rapper Pitbull include his stage names Mr. 305 and Mr. Worldwide, as well as his earlier name Lil' Chico.
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 29, 2025, 10:28 AMRefresh my memory...which one is Mr Worldwide?
Pitbull, I believe.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Sep 29, 2025, 10:31 AMIt was my attempt at humor:
Nicknames for the rapper Pitbull include his stage names Mr. 305 and Mr. Worldwide, as well as his earlier name Lil' Chico.
Sorry, that one went right over my head. ;D I remember him from Vandy.
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 29, 2025, 09:58 AMIf Jones is so high on Lashlee, why hasn't he been offered a spot on the Cowboys' staff? Or has he? Agree with Son of Spam...Jones needs to stay out of it. He's been on record saying he's not giving to NIL at Arkansas.
I know no one asked and it probably means little to nothing to the vast majority, but I've been on the field with all of the following (of the names listed in this thread so far) and I would choose GJ Kinne based on my interactions with them. I think some of them would be fine, but I think a young, up-and-comer trying to prove himself is what is needed right now. Kinne fits that bill.
Petrino, Lashlee , Malzahn, Nutt, Saban, Mullen, Sumerall, Pitbull, Briles, Kinne
Thanks for this. I think it's valuable.
Maybe there's a chance to have our cake and eat it too.
Let Petrino re-stabilize things for a bit and then someone like Kinne might still be available in a few years. If Petrino turns back into BMFP, then maybe we miss out on Kinne but it would be worth it if we get high end results.
I just hope that, when this Bobby Petrino era does come to its end, we learn our lessons (we won't, because Arkansas) and don't try to replace him with a coach who is complete opposites in worth ethic and practice and game style.
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Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 29, 2025, 07:16 PMI just hope that, when this Bobby Petrino era does come to its end, we learn our lessons (we won't, because Arkansas) and don't try to replace him with a coach who is complete opposites in worth ethic and practice and game style.
You know damn well we'll move on from Petrino and hire a coach who runs the service academy Flexbone.
If you are looking for a realistic "big name" that would take this job...his name is Bobby Motherfuckin Petrino. He deserves it really.
Mullen: I'm not a huge fan but if we're measuring success over the long haul...this is a guy that was 20+ games above .500 at MSU and his record at Florida really wasn't terrible it just wasn't measuring up to their standards. He's 53 years old and still has a lot of years left in coaching if he wants them. Knows the SEC well enough to probably get another opportunity here. We could do much worse.
There may be other names pop up (Joey McGuire?) but those two make the most sense in terms of "experience".
Lashlee I think will probably coach his way out of getting the opportunity. He's 2-2 right now in what has been a let down season thus far.
I'm hoping the Gus faction just pounds sand.
If we got young these names below will likely be the ones considered.
No particular order.
Sumrall, Kinne, Morris, Golesh,
Quote from: animal on Sep 29, 2025, 08:54 PMLashlee I think will probably coach his way out of getting the opportunity. He's 2-2 right now in what has been a let down season thus far.
I'm hoping the Gus faction just pounds sand.
If we got young these names below will likely be the ones considered.
No particular order.
Sumrall, Kinne, Morris, Golesh,
I think Lashlee will be a redux of Gus in 2017. We'll go all out for him, he'll string the Springdale boosters along, and we'll get left holding our dicks. He'll either coach himself out of the opportunity and/or simply say no because he views it as a career killer (which it kind of has been since Petrino).
If BMFP doesn't get the job, we need to hire from the cohort of young guys. Sumrall, Golesh, Kinne, and Morris.
Sumrall would be my first choice. Knows the SEC and has won at a high clip, but I figure he's probably holding out for the UK job.
I like Kinne and Morris but they're damn young and still very green.
I never felt Mullen got a fair shake at Florida. Not sure why they moved so fast there. Really only had one bad season.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 29, 2025, 09:12 PMI never felt Mullen got a fair shake at Florida. Not sure why they moved so fast there. Really only had one bad season.
Pissed off the wrong people regarding recruiting.
Quote from: Loma on Sep 29, 2025, 09:21 PMPissed off the wrong people regarding recruiting.
that was because his recruiting had turned to shit. a bunch of his last two classes failed to even get to campus because they didn't qualify.
and he refused to fire grantham until it was too late. the defense his last season gave up the most points per game in over a century.
edit: his 2020 defense did that. in his last season they gave up 52 to samford.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 09:46 PMthat was because his recruiting had turned to shit. a bunch of his last two classes failed to even get to campus because they didn't qualify.
and he refused to fire grantham until it was too late. the defense his last season gave up the most points per game in over a century.
edit: his 2020 defense did that. in his last season they gave up 52 to samford.
Damn. I'll be honest, I hadn't heard much of this Grantham guy before the last few days, but sounds like he'll get yo ass fired real quick. Bobby probably needs to hard pass on that guy if he's an option.
I think we can all agree that it's Petrinos job to lose now. If he can keep doing what they're doing on offense (save the ND game), and he can get the defense to show some semblance of fight in them, then he'll get a new contract in December.
Does that translate into a minimum # of wins req'd for them to offer him the gig? I don't know. HY said it doesn't, but I think we would all also agree if we go O'fer for the rest of the schedule they probably don't give him the job. Whereas, if he sneaks up and wins a couple it's likely a done deal if he wants it.
Quote from: TC on Sep 29, 2025, 09:57 PMI think we can all agree that it's Petrinos job to lose now. If he can keep doing what they're doing on offense (save the ND game), and he can get the defense to show some semblance of fight in them, then he'll get a new contract in December.
Does that translate into a minimum # of wins req'd for them to offer him the gig? I don't know. HY said it doesn't, but I think we would all also agree if we go O'fer for the rest of the schedule they probably don't give him the job. Whereas, if he sneaks up and wins a couple it's likely a done deal if he wants it.
The players may not like him because he's a big fat meanie and makes them actually hustle and they lay down to make sure he doesn't succeed, but they can't get much layer downer.
So if he can even get them to show a spark of motivation, that's better than they've shown yet this season.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 29, 2025, 09:11 PMI think Lashlee will be a redux of Gus in 2017. We'll go all out for him, he'll string the Springdale boosters along, and we'll get left holding our dicks. He'll either coach himself out of the opportunity and/or simply say no because he views it as a career killer (which it kind of has been since Petrino).
The whole career killer angle is a real head scratcher. Did it kill Nutts career? Petrino? Bielema? Morris killed his own career for sucking ass.
Looking outside, his time around it feels like there are more guys I don't want than who I do want. Previous searches you had guys like Kiffen. Norvell, Leach, etc. that stood out. Not sure that guy exists with this search.
I love BP but I even have reservations with him being HC.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 29, 2025, 08:45 PMYou know damn well we'll move on from Petrino and hire a coach who runs the service academy Flexbone.
The wishbone run Texas/OU style would be devastating to today's pussified coverage defensive backs. They don't see WRs that block, hammering FBs, or having to make decisions. It was a near perfection offense and was killed as much by fan indifference as anything.
Quote from: CardHog on Sep 30, 2025, 06:53 AMThe whole career killer angle is a real head scratcher. Did it kill Nutts career? Petrino? Bielema? Morris killed his own career for sucking ass.
Rightly or wrongly, Bielema is the one whose tenure makes our job look much worse than it is.
He won a lot at Wisconsin. Came here and struggled badly, got his shit pushed in, and ultimately got fired. Now he's winning at Illinois.
To be fair, I think Pittman may have quieted the shit talk about our program and the ability to win here. He won some big games (Texas in '21, Cincinnati in '22, Ole Miss in '22, Tennessee last year, etc). I think some coaches may say "hell, if THAT guy can win at a decent clip, imagine what I can do."
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 30, 2025, 08:20 AMLooking outside, his time around it feels like there are more guys I don't want than who I do want. Previous searches you had guys like Kiffen. Norvell, Leach, etc. that stood out. Not sure that guy exists with this search.
I love BP but I even have reservations with him being HC.
Agreed, and it feels like this is already being set up as "Lashlee or bust". I don't think he's a bad coach but not fully sold on him either. Maybe it's Chad/SMU PTSD. It will be interesting to see what happens if he goes 7-5 this year. Regardless, if he's the only one who can generate NIL donations from the big boys then he's the guy. If he does get the job it will be impossible to fire him if it goes south. Hootie 2.0.
On paper, Mullen is the best realistic option and it's not particularly close. Successful head coach at 2 different SEC schools, one of which is a bottom feeder like us. I doubt he moves the NIL needle much though.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Sep 30, 2025, 08:56 AMI don't think he's a bad coach but not fully sold on him either. Maybe it's Chad/SMU PTSD.
Not directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is
completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 30, 2025, 09:37 AMNot directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.
One of them has won big at SMU. The other only got to a bowl once, and wouldn't have then if not for a blown call at the end of the Tulane game.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 30, 2025, 09:37 AMNot directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.
I understand that Lashlee isn't an inbred Aggy retard. He might even move his family to NWA. He's obviously a much better coach(low hurdle) but I do worry about the transition from SMU to the SEC. To his credit, he won 11 games but he did it with a bankrolled roster in a shitty conference and is currently 2-2.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 30, 2025, 08:27 AMThe wishbone run Texas/OU style would be devastating to today's pussified coverage defensive backs. They don't see WRs that block, hammering FBs, or having to make decisions. It was a near perfection offense and was killed as much by fan indifference as anything.
What you say might be true-- if, and this is a huge if-- you could find 2 or 3 guys who would actually block to play fullback.
If we truly take a "long view approach" and not get vapor locked on one candidate.
There could be other names emerge out of this but this feels like the list right now is going to legit be Lashlee, Sumrall, Kinne, and maybe Eric Morris. Mullen might get a look if he ends up impressing at UNLV.
There's really no reason to not have a "win now" attitude with college athletics so a program builder now days is going to be someone that is highly organized, has a system in place that can be quickly adopted, can really get guys to "buy-in", and knows how to identify players that can help win ball games.
Easier said than done and I'm not sure Petrino's complex shit really jives with modern college football. You have to think about every pre-season spent on "install" and you don't have 2 to 4 years with the same group of guys. That's just not happening now. So whatever you run needs to be easily soaked in.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 09:44 AMOne of them has won big at SMU. The other only got to a bowl once, and wouldn't have then if not for a blown call at the end of the Tulane game.
Won big? What big games has SMU won that proves Lashlee isn't the next Chad Morris? I get he has won a bunch of games though. Seems he has lost the biggest games each year.
2025 Wins: Missouri State, Eash Texas A&M
2025 Losses: TCU, Baylor
Hasn't played anyone ranked so far
2024 Wins: California, Virginia, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Duke, Stanford, Louisville, Florida State, TCU, Houston Christian, Nevada
2024 losses: Penn State, Clemson, BYU
2-2 against ranked opponents this year
2023 Wins: Louisiana Tech, Prarie View A&M, Charlotte, East Carolina, Temple, Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, Memphis, Navy, Tulane
2023 losses: Oklahoma, TCU, Boston College
1-1 vs ranked opponents this year
2022 Wins: North Texas, Lamar, Navy, Tulsa, Houston, South Florida, Memphis
2022 Losses: Maryland, TCU, UCF, Cincinatti, Tulane, BYU
0-2 against ranked opponents this year
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 10:00 AMIf we truly take a "long view approach" and not get vapor locked on one candidate.
There could be other names emerge out of this but this feels like the list right now is going to legit be Lashlee, Sumrall, Kinne, and maybe Eric Morris. Mullen might get a look if he ends up impressing at UNLV.
There's really no reason to not have a "win now" attitude with college athletics so a program builder now days is going to be someone that is highly organized, has a system in place that can be quickly adopted, can really get guys to "buy-in", and knows how to identify players that can help win ball games.
Easier said than done and I'm not sure Petrino's complex shit really jives with modern college football. You have to think about every pre-season spent on "install" and you don't have 2 to 4 years with the same group of guys. That's just not happening now. So whatever you run needs to be easily soaked in.
I can't help but wonder if the predictability of his offense is due to him trying to dumb some of it down for quick install. You're right though, and that's a serious concern with Petrino moving forward as permanent HC. He won't have years to get the kids schooled up. The "just wait til next year" stuff is out the window. We could very well be staring at a team that can't get it done because they don't understand the offense quick enough.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 30, 2025, 10:09 AMWon big? What big games has SMU won that proves Lashlee isn't the next Chad Morris? I get he has won a bunch of games though. Seems he has lost the biggest games each year.
2025 Wins: Missouri State, Eash Texas A&M
2025 Losses: TCU, Baylor
Hasn't played anyone ranked so far
2024 Wins: California, Virginia, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Duke, Stanford, Louisville, Florida State, TCU, Houston Christian, Nevada
2024 losses: Penn State, Clemson, BYU
2-2 against ranked opponents this year
2023 Wins: Louisiana Tech, Prarie View A&M, Charlotte, East Carolina, Temple, Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, Memphis, Navy, Tulane
2023 losses: Oklahoma, TCU, Boston College
1-1 vs ranked opponents this year
2022 Wins: North Texas, Lamar, Navy, Tulsa, Houston, South Florida, Memphis
2022 Losses: Maryland, TCU, UCF, Cincinatti, Tulane, BYU
0-2 against ranked opponents this year
Tongue in cheek, but the fact he won games and against ranked opponents seems to qualify. ;D
smu did not deserve to be in the playoff last year. they were overrated. lashlee is a mediocre coach.
I know this won't happen, but I would like to see the next coach incentivized for winning not losing.
I bet we could get that with BMFP. He agreed to a favorable contract once before, and I bet he would do it again to secure better NIL commitments.
If not, move on and find the best coach that will and buy him the players he needs. It would weed out the candidates looking for a retirement cushion. It's time to stop being held hostage by agents and terrible contracts in the name of the "market".
Arkansas has the money to drive change in the market.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 30, 2025, 10:09 AMWon big? What big games has SMU won that proves Lashlee isn't the next Chad Morris? I get he has won a bunch of games though. Seems he has lost the biggest games each year.
2025 Wins: Missouri State, Eash Texas A&M
2025 Losses: TCU, Baylor
Hasn't played anyone ranked so far
2024 Wins: California, Virginia, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Duke, Stanford, Louisville, Florida State, TCU, Houston Christian, Nevada
2024 losses: Penn State, Clemson, BYU
2-2 against ranked opponents this year
2023 Wins: Louisiana Tech, Prarie View A&M, Charlotte, East Carolina, Temple, Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, Memphis, Navy, Tulane
2023 losses: Oklahoma, TCU, Boston College
1-1 vs ranked opponents this year
2022 Wins: North Texas, Lamar, Navy, Tulsa, Houston, South Florida, Memphis
2022 Losses: Maryland, TCU, UCF, Cincinatti, Tulane, BYU
0-2 against ranked opponents this year
He made it to the playoff at SMU and won the ACC regular season with probably the 10th best roster in the league. Back to back 10 win seasons at a school that has only had one other one since the 1980s. That's winning big for that program.
Chad Morris barely had one winning season, 7-6, in a much easier conference where he had probably one of the top 2-3 rosters. And he wouldn't have had that if the officials hadn't handed it to him by giving his team extra time to score in the Tulane game.
There is no comparison.
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 10:00 AMEasier said than done and I'm not sure Petrino's complex shit really jives with modern college football. You have to think about every pre-season spent on "install" and you don't have 2 to 4 years with the same group of guys. That's just not happening now. So whatever you run needs to be easily soaked in.
I've thought the same, but I wonder if Arkansas could actually gain an advantage here. Everyone is having to dumb down offensive and defensive schemes because of the high portal turnover.
With Bobby's complex offensive schemes, why not focus the majority of our NIL to keeping offensive players for 2,3,4 years and allowing BMFP to run an offense that is more complex than any of our opponents see the rest of the season.
Traditionally we don't out-athlete SEC opponents. Might as well try and create an advantage.
Quote from: Hizog on Sep 30, 2025, 10:45 AMI've thought the same, but I wonder if Arkansas could actually gain an advantage here. Everyone is having to dumb down offensive and defensive schemes because of the high portal turnover.
With Bobby's complex offensive schemes, why not focus the majority of our NIL to keeping offensive players for 2,3,4 years and allowing BMFP to run an offense that is more complex than any of our opponents see the rest of the season.
Traditionally we don't out-athlete SEC opponents. Might as well try and create an advantage.
i think to afford the most optimal team and optimal use of our financial resources, you almost have to turnover half the roster every year.
every guy you make look good will get offers for more than they are worth. see wes welker, not the same, but it fits.
finding guys like mike washington jr and our wr's on a budget will be key to success more than paying guys that are bona fide studs what other schools are offering.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AMi think to afford the most optimal team and optimal use of our financial resources, you almost have to turnover half the roster every year.
every guy you make look good will get offers for more than they are worth. see wes welker, not the same, but it fits.
finding guys like mike washington jr and our wr's on a budget will be key to success more than paying guys that are bona fide studs what other schools are offering.
I understand that you'll lose some playmakers to more money. I guess my point, is to focus our resources on prioritizing as many offensive playmakers as possible.
And to use your example of Wes Welker, the Patriots had a knack for next man up like Edelman after Welker. It wasn't necessarily that they were great athletes. They didn't typically have success after leaving NE. If you have younger guys staying in the system for a couple of years learning, then you may lose some playmakers, but Petrino will know the next man up already in the system where we can focus NIL.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AMTongue in cheek, but the fact he won games and against ranked opponents seems to qualify. ;D
Fair enough.
I know conventional wisdom is that we need to focus more on building through the portal than through high school recruiting. But a large part of our issue with defensive talent is that we neglected or did a poor job with the high school recruiting on that side of the ball. Had we brought in decent high school players as well...more the developmental types versus 5-star play now guys, we'd have more of a fall back option for when the portal guys suck.
If you rely on transfers too heavily there are going to be years where too many of them don't pan out, you evaluate poorly, etc...even if you're paying a competitive NIL package. See Muss's last year for an example of how it can blow up in your face even if you have money to spend.
I was just doing a little math. I don't know much about Lashlee except that he was under Gus as a player and coach for nearly two decades and that he is capable of winning 10 games at SMU (which is quite an accomplishment).
He's 42. Worst case scenario, he takes the job, flames out in three years (more likely gets 5 years) and is out of power 5 head coaching for life. He leaves with $20-35 mil. Like I said, that's worst case scenario, but he has to be considering it.
Best case scenario is he comes in and has 12-20 year career with an 8 win average. We are in the mix consistently in November. Good bowls and all that stuff that keeps a job.
There are two questions he has to answer: is he willing to start the clock on worst case at 42 and is coaching the Razorbacks his dream job? It would be understandable to think you could have your next shot during our next coaching cycle (which is about a 5 year average since Nutt).
If it's your dream job, you pick up the phone and tell your agent to get it. Then you show up and work your ass off to make that best case happen.
longest coaching search evar.
it will be an interesting two months.
It's gonna be brutal
Bobby Allen is still director of high school and nfl. He's probably looking in his desk for a whistle.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 30, 2025, 12:51 PMI was just doing a little math. I don't know much about Lashlee except that he was under Gus as a player and coach for nearly two decades and that he is capable of winning 10 games at SMU (which is quite an accomplishment).
He's 42. Worst case scenario, he takes the job, flames out in three years (more likely gets 5 years) and is out of power 5 head coaching for life. He leaves with $20-35 mil. Like I said, that's worst case scenario, but he has to be considering it.
Best case scenario is he comes in and has 12-20 year career with an 8 win average. We are in the mix consistently in November. Good bowls and all that stuff that keeps a job.
There are two questions he has to answer: is he willing to start the clock on worst case at 42 and is coaching the Razorbacks his dream job? It would be understandable to think you could have your next shot during our next coaching cycle (which is about a 5 year average since Nutt).
If it's your dream job, you pick up the phone and tell your agent to get it. Then you show up and work your ass off to make that best case happens.
Spot On! He doesn't have to quit coaching if he fails here. To quote a famous coach "You can coach a long time in this game if you don't have a big ego".
I don't really see Lashlee coming here. Folks have a point saying he has it better at SMU, because he does. They are reportedly giving him whatever he wants and needs to be successful and he has a much easier route to the CFBP / Conference Championship. He's also only 3yrs into his head coaching career. I won't say he'd be a fool for coming here, but if he did it isn't really a business decision.
I find it more likely that someone like Sumerall, Kinne, or Golesh... or someone looking to get back to the P5/SEC would be interested, like Mullen or Odom.
PS: I wish the fucking Gruden talk would just go away and die.
If someone avoids this job because they don't think they can win, then we dodged a bullet because that is a loser mentality. Anyone that thinks SMU is a better job than an SEC school also has a loser mentality. It is also why I wish we would stop incentivizing losers to come coach here. Incentivize the guy that believes he can win here.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 01:41 PMPS: I wish the fucking Gruden talk would just go away and die.
Brett Farve is pimping Gruden on X
Quote from: abnormal hog on Sep 30, 2025, 02:12 PMBrett Farve is pimping Gruden on X
He can't stop showing a dick
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 01:41 PMI don't really see Lashlee coming here. Folks have a point saying he has it better at SMU, because he does. They are reportedly giving him whatever he wants and needs to be successful and he has a much easier route to the CFBP / Conference Championship. He's also only 3yrs into his head coaching career. I won't say he'd be a fool for coming here, but if he did it isn't really a business decision.
I find it more likely that someone like Sumerall, Kinne, or Golesh... or someone looking to get back to the P5/SEC would be interested, like Mullen or Odom.
PS: I wish the fucking Gruden talk would just go away and die.
The problem with somebody like Mullen or Odom is it will be too easy to make it a retirement lottery ticket. For some reason I think it would would be different with Petrino.
We are never going to be seen as a middle step to a bigger job (at least not since Bowden Wyatt), so it's either going to be an up and comer or a resurrection. I just think the money is too big and it's too easy for resurfaced, retirement aged coach to just say fuck it when it gets hard. The only person to consider in that scenario is Petrino.
Quote from: abnormal hog on Sep 30, 2025, 02:12 PMBrett Farve is pimping Gruden on X
Yes, I've seen that. As well as people saying that HY is the only AD that Gruden follows on X. Which strikes me as the same schtick as the tie thing. Gruden is overrated and I think would be a massive flop as far as success on the field.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 30, 2025, 02:17 PMThe problem with somebody like Mullen or Odom is it will be too easy to make it a retirement lottery ticket. For some reason I think it would would be different with Petrino.
We are never going to be seen as a middle step to a bigger job (at least not since Bowden Wyatt), so it's either going to be an up and comer or a resurrection. I just think the money is too big and it's too easy for resurfaced, retirement aged coach to just say fuck it when it gets hard. The only person to consider in that scenario is Petrino.
You have a point there. I think Odom would actually try... He doesn't strike me as the type of guy to come in and grift a golden parachute. Not that I'm advocating him as the next HC. That said, this conference will chew up and spit out anyone who doesn't have a whole ton of will power and testicular fortitude. Take Sam. I think he really wanted to do well, and that he tried, but was in over his head... then over the last couple of years just let go of the rope because he was worn down and tired from the pressure and the difficulty. So even those like Odom, may wind up the same way.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 01:41 PMI don't really see Lashlee coming here. Folks have a point saying he has it better at SMU, because he does. They are reportedly giving him whatever he wants and needs to be successful and he has a much easier route to the CFBP / Conference Championship. He's also only 3yrs into his head coaching career. I won't say he'd be a fool for coming here, but if he did it isn't really a business decision.
I find it more likely that someone like Sumerall, Kinne, or Golesh... or someone looking to get back to the P5/SEC would be interested, like Mullen or Odom.
PS: I wish the fucking Gruden talk would just go away and die.
I don't think they are giving him everything he wants. Supposedly their NIL is lacking.
I wouldn't say he has an easier path either. Even if their NIL picks up, which probably isn't happening to a great degree until their boosters no longer have to cover the $45MM per year they aren't getting in media rights, they're still going to be at best 4th/5th and likely still bottom 3-4 in their conference in terms of roster. Right now they're probably in a similar spot in the ACC as we are in the SEC in terms of resources, roster, etc.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 02:28 PMYes, I've seen that. As well as people saying that HY is the only AD that Gruden follows on X. Which strikes me as the same schtick as the tie thing. Gruden is overrated and I think would be a massive flop as far as success on the field.
You have a point there. I think Odom would actually try... He doesn't strike me as the type of guy to come in and grift a golden parachute. Not that I'm advocating him as the next HC. That said, this conference will chew up and spit out anyone who doesn't have a whole ton of will power and testicular fortitude. Take Sam. I think he really wanted to do well, and that he tried, but was in over his head... then over the last couple of years just let go of the rope because he was worn down and tired from the pressure and the difficulty. So even those like Odom, may wind up the same way.
You could sell me on Odom over Mullen pretty easily. Barry was at Missouri before NIL. He didn't have the ability to go buy key players like Drunkshitz does now. His results were in line with or slightly better than what Missouri usually does. He's not all that old...got his start as a HC early, and presumably has learned a few things. And from watching videos of practice, locker room, etc. while he was here, as well as how he dealt with the prima donna QB who tried for a midseason raise last year at UNLV, he doesn't seem like the type to let his players walk all over him (when he's actually the guy in charge).
I hope we aim higher, and if that's the route we're taking I'd prefer to keep Bobby. But I think Odom is a better coach than he's gotten credit for so far.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 01:41 PMPS: I wish the fucking Gruden talk would just go away and die.
I'm to the point where I just want Gruden to take a job in college football just so he'll inevitably flame out like Belichick and people can STFU about him.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:35 PMI don't think they are giving him everything he wants. Supposedly their NIL is lacking.
I wouldn't say he has an easier path either. Even if their NIL picks up, which probably isn't happening to a great degree until their boosters no longer have to cover the $45MM per year they aren't getting in media rights, they're still going to be at best 4th/5th and likely still bottom 3-4 in their conference in terms of roster. Right now they're probably in a similar spot in the ACC as we are in the SEC in terms of resources, roster, etc.
Where are you seeing that? Serious question. From what I've seen folks are saying that the checkbooks are wide open for him.
I don't see how you can say that the path in the ACC isn't easier. Even IF in terms of $$ they are a little below their competitors, the list of competitors is much shorter and with the exception of maybe Clemson, FSU, and Miami probably not far off in terms of money. Of course, for all I know Miami may not have great NIL. Here in the SEC, well... its murderer's row in terms of schedule, but then the direct competition in terms of money is a much steeper climb.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 30, 2025, 02:39 PMI'm to the point where I just want Gruden to take a job in college football just so he'll inevitably flame out like Belichick and people can STFU about him.
As long as it isn't our job!
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 30, 2025, 02:17 PMThe problem with somebody like Mullen or Odom is it will be too easy to make it a retirement lottery ticket. For some reason I think it would would be different with Petrino.
We are never going to be seen as a middle step to a bigger job (at least not since Bowden Wyatt), so it's either going to be an up and comer or a resurrection. I just think the money is too big and it's too easy for resurfaced, retirement aged coach to just say fuck it when it gets hard. The only person to consider in that scenario is Petrino.
Odom already making 6.5 mil and Mullen 3.5. 48 and 53 years of age.
Petrino also >>>>>>Gruden
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 02:43 PMAs long as it isn't our job!
Meant to add that addendum to my post!
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 02:42 PMWhere are you seeing that? Serious question. From what I've seen folks are saying that the checkbooks are wide open for him.
I don't see how you can say that the path in the ACC isn't easier. Even IF in terms of $$ they are a little below their competitors, the list of competitors is much shorter and with the exception of maybe Clemson, FSU, and Miami probably not far off in terms of money. Of course, for all I know Miami may not have great NIL. Here in the SEC, well... its murderer's row in terms of schedule, but then the direct competition in terms of money is a much steeper climb.
His financial advisor in LR was telling people around here towards the end of last year that A) Rhett very much wanted this job and B) that their NIL wasn't nearly what people assumed based on their history.
The ACC only agreed to take them if they agreed to waive all media rights payments (about $45 million annually) for the first ten years. Boosters agreed to cover that money each year to operate the athletic department. Maybe they are still willing to kick in another $10MM or so per year for NIL, but it seems unlikely.
They're going to start most years with a roster that is behind the following:
Miami
Clemson
Florida State
Virginia Tech (assuming they get their shit together with the next hire)
They'll probably be in a similar spot to the following
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
NC State
Pitt
It's not insurmountable, but it's also not significantly easier than what he would have to face here to get to the playoffs...especially knowing that he could lose a couple more games per year and get there.
And there's no guarantee that the ACC will even exist by the time they start getting media rights payments. SMU almost certainly isn't getting a spot in the Big 10 or SEC, and it looks like whatever new playoff model they end up with is going to lean heavily towards those leagues. Is it easier to get one spot allocated to the ACC, or one of potentially 5-6 (or more depending on size) in an expanded playoff as an SEC school.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:51 PMHis financial advisor in LR was telling people around here towards the end of last year that A) Rhett very much wanted this job and B) that their NIL wasn't nearly what people assumed based on their history.
The ACC only agreed to take them if they agreed to waive all media rights payments (about $45 million annually) for the first ten years. Boosters agreed to cover that money each year to operate the athletic department. Maybe they are still willing to kick in another $10MM or so per year for NIL, but it seems unlikely.
They're going to start most years with a roster that is behind the following:
Miami
Clemson
Florida State
Virginia Tech (assuming they get their shit together with the next hire)
They'll probably be in a similar spot to the following
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
NC State
Pitt
It's not insurmountable, but it's also not significantly easier than what he would have to face here to get to the playoffs...especially knowing that he could lose a couple more games per year and get there.
And there's no guarantee that the ACC will even exist by the time they start getting media rights payments. SMU almost certainly isn't getting a spot in the Big 10 or SEC, and it looks like whatever new playoff model they end up with is going to lean heavily towards those leagues. Is it easier to get one spot allocated to the ACC, or one of potentially 5-6 (or more depending on size) in an expanded playoff as an SEC school.
I'd add that it's highly possible that the stuff in the first paragraph was just Rhett trying to build his value up to his current employer aka Malzahning us.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:51 PMHis financial advisor in LR was telling people around here towards the end of last year that A) Rhett very much wanted this job and B) that their NIL wasn't nearly what people assumed based on their history.
The ACC only agreed to take them if they agreed to waive all media rights payments (about $45 million annually) for the first ten years. Boosters agreed to cover that money each year to operate the athletic department. Maybe they are still willing to kick in another $10MM or so per year for NIL, but it seems unlikely.
They're going to start most years with a roster that is behind the following:
Miami
Clemson
Florida State
Virginia Tech (assuming they get their shit together with the next hire)
They'll probably be in a similar spot to the following
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
NC State
Pitt
It's not insurmountable, but it's also not significantly easier than what he would have to face here to get to the playoffs...especially knowing that he could lose a couple more games per year and get there.
And there's no guarantee that the ACC will even exist by the time they start getting media rights payments. SMU almost certainly isn't getting a spot in the Big 10 or SEC, and it looks like whatever new playoff model they end up with is going to lean heavily towards those leagues. Is it easier to get one spot allocated to the ACC, or one of potentially 5-6 (or more depending on size) in an expanded playoff as an SEC school.
I didn't know that about the media rights and such. Thanks! Also good points. I'll devil's advocate with, he can ride out and win a few more years while waiting for a bigger gig to open and increase his stock.
Then again, maybe the Head Hog is is dream job and waiting on a "better" gig isn't important to him.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:53 PMI'd add that it's highly possible that the stuff in the first paragraph was just Rhett trying to build his value up to his current employer aka Malzahning us.
...and if anyone is a master of that, it is Gus. He did learn at the feet of the master, after all.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 02:58 PMI didn't know that about the media rights and such. Thanks! Also good points. I'll devil's advocate with, he can ride out and win a few more years while waiting for a bigger gig to open and increase his stock.
Then again, maybe the Head Hog is is dream job and waiting on a "better" gig isn't important to him.
He could definitely stay put and do that. Some have said he might wait to see what happens at Auburn, which I could easily see. That's an easier place to win albeit with a different level of pressure due to the presence of the red elephants.
On the other hand, he's 2-2 this year. Suppose they go 7-5/6-6 this year and again next year. If so, then he may have missed his window to jump to the SEC. And if he turns us down we may not bother to offer him again down the road when he really does want the job.
It's all going to boil down to whether or not this is his dream job. If it really is, none of this other stuff we've discussed will matter. And if it isn't, it's probably not a good move for him to take it.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 03:05 PMHe could definitely stay put and do that. Some have said he might wait to see what happens at Auburn, which I could easily see. That's an easier place to win albeit with a different level of pressure due to the presence of the red elephants.
On the other hand, he's 2-2 this year. Suppose they go 7-5/6-6 this year and again next year. If so, then he may have missed his window to jump to the SEC. And if he turns us down we may not bother to offer him again down the road when he really does want the job.
It's all going to boil down to whether or not this is his dream job. If it really is, none of this other stuff we've discussed will matter. And if it isn't, it's probably not a good move for him to take it.
Indeed, I think that is ultimately what it boils down to. Is it his dream job.
I hate to spoiler alert this thread barely 48 hours in, but we all know that in 2 months we're going to do something gay and retarded. It's the Arkansas way.
Rhett Lashlee would be a failure of epic proportions at Arkansas, so it makes perfect sense our idiot Dallas and Springdale boosters want him.
Every coach has a shelf life. I believe, as much as it pains me to say this as a Bobby Petrino fan, that we got the best version of Bobby 15 years ago. That is schewing my vision and many others. It's been a long time since he's done anything of note.
We have to go outside the Gus tree, who's also on his way down. We missed his prime, and I'm not mad.
We have to find the new coach prime, NOT Deion. Think Lanning.
I don't want Saban, Gruden (Jesus),Stoops, Belichek, etc. I don't want a big name who's seen his glory days.
You have to have foresight, our current AD has zero, and get the guy who's next. Or we'll be watching that guy (Freeman,Lanning, Cignetti) hoist a trophy from a school that has some.
It's not splash or names we need. We need innovation, hunger and energy. I've yet to see any in this coaching search.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 30, 2025, 03:31 PMI hate to spoiler alert this thread barely 48 hours in, but we all know that in 2 months we're going to do something gay and retarded. It's the Arkansas way.
No no. In two months we'll be given hope first... a glimmer... something to even recapture the cynical nature of the WooPussy. THEN we'll do some Ibuprofen and Tylenol shit.
Quote from: red death on Sep 30, 2025, 03:35 PMRhett Lashlee would be a failure of epic proportions at Arkansas, so it makes perfect sense our idiot Dallas and Springdale boosters want him.
Every coach has a shelf life. I believe, as much as it pains me to say this as a Bobby Petrino fan, that we got the best version of Bobby 15 years ago. That is schewing my vision and many others. It's been a long time since he's done anything of note.
We have to go outside the Gus tree, who's also on his way down. We missed his prime, and I'm not mad.
We have to find the new coach prime, NOT Deion. Think Lanning.
I don't want Saban, Gruden (Jesus),Stoops, Belichek, etc. I don't want a big name who's seen his glory days.
You have to have foresight, our current AD has zero, and get the guy who's next. Or we'll be watching that guy (Freeman,Lanning, Cignetti) hoist a trophy from a school that has some.
It's not splash or names we need. We need innovation, hunger and energy. I've yet to see any in this coaching search.
Cignetti, now that's one that pique's my interest. His age is a negative, but he has a long history of taking losers, perennial losers, and making them winners.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 30, 2025, 03:31 PMI hate to spoiler alert this thread barely 48 hours in, but we all know that in 2 months we're going to do something gay and retarded. It's the Arkansas way.
Naa, we're going to hire Petrino, and all this other talk is moot.
So get ready for the Garland county troll in the game threads bashing every decision Petrino makes.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 30, 2025, 03:31 PMI hate to spoiler alert this thread barely 48 hours in, but we all know that in 2 months we're going to do something gay and retarded. It's the Arkansas way.
If these coaching searches have taught us anything it's never the first dozen names that end up being the guy.
Quote from: TC on Sep 30, 2025, 04:31 PMNaa, we're going to hire Petrino, and all this other talk is moot.
So get ready for the Garland county troll in the game threads bashing every decision Petrino makes.
GCT for short
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 03:42 PMCignetti, now that's one that pique's my interest. His age is a negative, but he has a long history of taking losers, perennial losers, and making them winners.
We ain't paying his buyout
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 03:42 PMCignetti, now that's one that pique's my interest. His age is a negative, but he has a long history of taking losers, perennial losers, and making them winners.
Surely he means the next Cignetti, Lanning because we're certainly not getting either of those.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 30, 2025, 05:40 PMSurely he means the next Cignetti, Lanning because we're certainly not getting either of those.
Nope. I'm referring to the one at Indiana. No, I wasn't saying we could get him. Just saying that is one that really piques my interest. His age is the only real downside.
you don't hire cignetti from indiana, you hire him from james madison.
those totally writing off some of these 'lesser' guys are making a mistake, imo.
We should go after Kiffin just to make Ole miss give him another raise.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:51 PMHis financial advisor in LR was telling people around here towards the end of last year that A) Rhett very much wanted this job and B) that their NIL wasn't nearly what people assumed based on their history.
The ACC only agreed to take them if they agreed to waive all media rights payments (about $45 million annually) for the first ten years. Boosters agreed to cover that money each year to operate the athletic department. Maybe they are still willing to kick in another $10MM or so per year for NIL, but it seems unlikely.
They're going to start most years with a roster that is behind the following:
Miami
Clemson
Florida State
Virginia Tech (assuming they get their shit together with the next hire)
They'll probably be in a similar spot to the following
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
NC State
Pitt
It's not insurmountable, but it's also not significantly easier than what he would have to face here to get to the playoffs...especially knowing that he could lose a couple more games per year and get there.
And there's no guarantee that the ACC will even exist by the time they start getting media rights payments. SMU almost certainly isn't getting a spot in the Big 10 or SEC, and it looks like whatever new playoff model they end up with is going to lean heavily towards those leagues. Is it easier to get one spot allocated to the ACC, or one of potentially 5-6 (or more depending on size) in an expanded playoff as an SEC school.
I think I'd get a new financial advisor if he's flapping his gums to anyone other than a highly placed AD.
And maybe even then.
My wife will be with Lashlee's mother at a sorority event in Fayetteville this weekend. Will be interesting to see if she says anything.
One thing Arkansas has over SMU is that it is in the SEC. Win 9 games in the SEC, maybe 8 since we are going to a 9 game conference schedule, and you are very likely in the playoff. And even a retard like Sam managed to win 9 at Arkansas.
I think it is also increasingly clear that Lashlee does actually want the job.
Bobby's the guy. I can't think of anyone else I want.
NIL the shit out of the roster and let the man cook.
Quote from: obijuana on Sep 30, 2025, 08:01 PMBobby's the guy. I can't think of anyone else I want.
NIL the shit out of the roster and let the man cook.
Bobby flopped at Louisville 2.0 becuase he couldn't keep a staff and becuase his reputation was so damaged he couldn't recruit.
Today, you don't really recruit kids. You hire them. Give him the NIL support and that takes care of problem 2. Problem 1 is staff, but give him enough money for hiring assistants, and that's that. Pay someone enough and they'll work for a meanie.
I would think there are plenty of up and coming coordinators that would love to work for an SEC program and don't have the same feels and opinions about BP as maybe the older ones established guys have.
If BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.
Quote from: Zoso on Sep 30, 2025, 08:52 PMIf BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.
I think he'll eventually be in the SEC, but it will be someplace like Bama, LSU or Florida.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 01, 2025, 01:46 AMI think he'll eventually be in the SEC, but it will be someplace like Bama, LSU or Florida.
Same. It says something about Oregon that the last two head coaches left willingly to go to Southern schools.
I think he'll eventually wind up in the SEC, but at one of the bigger jobs like the ones you mentioned or Georgia if Kirby pulls a Bob Stoops and retires early (which some people have predicted).
If we're going the coordinator route, I used to be high on Glenn Schumann at Georgia thinking he could be the next Lanning, but that defense has taken a huge step back lately.
Quote from: Zoso on Sep 30, 2025, 08:52 PMIf BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.
That's if CUM doesn't want it
GJ Kinne and Texas St take on Arkansas St Saturday at 3 on ESPNU if you want a look at candidate against a common opponent.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 01, 2025, 11:12 AMGJ Kinne and Texas St take on Arkansas St Saturday at 3 on ESPNU if you want a look at candidate against a common opponent.
Played for Malzahn, and coached under Morris. Outstanding pedigree.
Meet the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 01, 2025, 11:17 AMPlayed for Malzahn, and coached under Morris. Outstanding pedigree.
Meet the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
The only thing missing is being on a men's league basketball team with HDN
GJ is a bit young still yet...if we're not landing a real name...be it Petrino, Mullens, Gruden, or whatever then I'd be for taking a hard look at a up and comer but more so in that 40 to 45 crowd. Preferably a coach that's built some shit from limited resources and not someone with a pedigree where everything was handed to them on a silver platter.
We all know somehow Malzahn is going to be right in the middle of this. I've never really cared for his offense and he was terrible at his last HC stop but he'll bring some juice, is an upgrade over Pittman, and does bring a certain amount of good credibility to the position. He's going to know the lay of the land better than some pud from Texas at least. I would absolutely take Mullens over him and I don't want either really.
Quote from: animal on Oct 01, 2025, 12:05 PMGJ is a bit young still yet...if we're not landing a real name...be it Petrino, Mullens, Gruden, or whatever then I'd be for taking a hard look at a up and comer but more so in that 40 to 45 crowd. Preferably a coach that's built some shit from limited resources and not someone with a pedigree where everything was handed to them on a silver platter.
We all know somehow Malzahn is going to be right in the middle of this. I've never really cared for his offense and he was terrible at his last HC stop but he'll bring some juice, is an upgrade over Pittman, and does bring a certain amount of good credibility to the position. He's going to know the lay of the land better than some pud from Texas at least. I would absolutely take Mullens over him and I don't want either really.
I'm more in favor of Lashlee than Kinne (at this point)... but I don't want the Gus bus 2.0. If we're talking Gruden money, then I say fuck it and we grab either Lanning or back up the Brinks for Cignetti. The overall cost of Gruden will be just as high, and I would rather a current proven winner than a TV personality "used to be" middling coach. I'd rather pay the $13mil for Cignetti, and 9-10mil a year than pay 9-10mil a year for Gruden. I think the ROI on Cignetti is way higher. (Lanning has a $20mil buyout).
Listened to Kevin Kelley while grabbing lunch today and they were talking about the coaching search. He said he called Gruden to talk about it, and he thinks the university wants it to be Petrino. Said they want him to show enough progress that they promote him.
Take that for what it is worth. That does make sense in the fact that they gave him the ok to make immediate staff changes. We shall see....
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 01, 2025, 12:50 PMListened to Kevin Kelley while grabbing lunch today and they were talking about the coaching search. He said he called Gruden to talk about it, and he thinks the university wants it to be Petrino. Said they want him to show enough progress that they promote him.
I think that would be the best case scenario. He is a proven winner (and fighter?), and I bet he would sign a favorable contract. Even if he doesn't, they won't have to fire him for losing if they back him with enough NIL.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 01, 2025, 01:15 PMI think that would be the best case scenario. He is a proven winner (and fighter?), and I bet he would sign a favorable contract. Even if he doesn't, they won't have to fire him for losing if they back him with enough NIL.
Was thinking about that earlier. I feel like he'd almost negotiate his own contract. I feel like he'd sign up under 5 mil or at least have it incentive laden to get upwards of that. And not the bs loser incentives Pittman had.
Can we filter prospects whose agent is Sexton out and look at the remaining.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Oct 01, 2025, 02:13 PMCan we filter prospects whose agent is Sexton out and look at the remaining.
It tends to make sense to steer away from that guy but he's all over the place.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 01, 2025, 12:50 PMListened to Kevin Kelley while grabbing lunch today and they were talking about the coaching search. He said he called Gruden to talk about it, and he thinks the university wants it to be Petrino. Said they want him to show enough progress that they promote him.
Take that for what it is worth. That does make sense in the fact that they gave him the ok to make immediate staff changes. We shall see....
They could be right... Maybe it's my inner cynic, but this feels so much like a set up for failure scenario. Give him his shot, even let him make staff decisions, then when he can't turn the boat around enough say "Well, we gave him his shot and he couldn't do it. Fans, we gave you what you wanted and it didn't work, so can we please stop hearing about the man?" kind of thing. Like throwing the Petrino "would have been" contingent a poison bone. I hope I'm wrong. I HOPE they're giving him a real shot, and I hope he shows enough improvement, and I hope that they are conducting a real coaching search in the mean time. I HOPE they will ultimately pick the BEST option for the program, be it Bobby or someone else.
Odds are stacked against him for sure.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 01, 2025, 11:12 AMGJ Kinne and Texas St take on Arkansas St Saturday at 3 on ESPNU if you want a look at candidate against a common opponent.
Looked up Kinne on Wikipedia and didn't know this. I remember hearing about this when it happened but didn't know this was his dad.
"In the spring of 2005, Kinne's father, who was also his coach at Canton High, was shot in the chest by the disgruntled parent of one of the players he coached."
Any word on if BP has reached out to the recruits and made any attempt to pull any back into the boat? If he is working hard on keeping guys then maybe that is an indicator that he is truly being considered.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 01, 2025, 03:12 PMAny word on if BP has reached out to the recruits and made any attempt to pull any back into the boat? If he is working hard on keeping guys then maybe that is an indicator that he is truly being considered.
He mentioned one player who decommitted solely because he needs to keep his options open without a coach in place. He said everyone is talking to the recruits, but also said decommitments are going to happen as long as the head coaching position is in limbo.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 01, 2025, 05:27 PMHe mentioned one player who decommitted solely because he needs to keep his options open without a coach in place. He said everyone is talking to the recruits, but also said decommitments are going to happen as long as the head coaching position is in limbo.
Give that man a two year pass!
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 01, 2025, 11:54 AMThe only thing missing is being on a men's league basketball team with HDN
You think he might be a big balla?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 01, 2025, 07:41 PMYou think he might be a big balla?
big balla, shot calla, 20 inch blades on the impala
I listened to BP's call with reporters on Monday.
Something that stood out to me was the fact that every AR reporter - except Trey Bidd - referred to Petrino as "Bobby."
Trey and the national guys, including someone from the AJC, referred to him as "coach."
Fucking slobs.
Hopefully when the interim tag is removed BMFP rips their heads off for that disrespect.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Oct 02, 2025, 10:03 AMI listened to BP's call with reporters on Monday.
Something that stood out to me was the fact that every AR reporter - except Trey Bidd - referred to Petrino as "Bobby."
Trey and the national guys, including someone from the AJC, referred to him as "coach."
Fucking slobs.
Hopefully when the interim tag is removed BMFP rips their heads off for that disrespect.
Noticed that too and thought it was disrespectful.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 29, 2025, 09:11 PMI think Lashlee will be a redux of Gus in 2017. We'll go all out for him, he'll string the Springdale boosters along, and we'll get left holding our dicks. He'll either coach himself out of the opportunity and/or simply say no because he views it as a career killer (which it kind of has been since Petrino).
If BMFP doesn't get the job, we need to hire from the cohort of young guys. Sumrall, Golesh, Kinne, and Morris.
Sumrall would be my first choice. Knows the SEC and has won at a high clip, but I figure he's probably holding out for the UK job.
I like Kinne and Morris but they're damn young and still very green.
What does "know the SEC" mean? I would hope that every candidate understands the importance of football in the south? I think that serves absolutely no purpose/ has zero value in acquiring a coach.......
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Oct 02, 2025, 10:03 AMI listened to BP's call with reporters on Monday.
Something that stood out to me was the fact that every AR reporter - except Trey Bidd - referred to Petrino as "Bobby."
Trey and the national guys, including someone from the AJC, referred to him as "coach."
Fucking slobs.
Hopefully when the interim tag is removed BMFP rips their heads off for that disrespect.
They did with Sam as well.
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Oct 02, 2025, 10:18 AMWhat does "know the SEC" mean? I would hope that every candidate understands the importance of football in the south? I think that serves absolutely no purpose/ has zero value in acquiring a coach.......
I would think it means "knows the caliber of athlete you need in the SEC."
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Oct 02, 2025, 10:03 AMI listened to BP's call with reporters on Monday.
Something that stood out to me was the fact that every AR reporter - except Trey Bidd - referred to Petrino as "Bobby."
Trey and the national guys, including someone from the AJC, referred to him as "coach."
Fucking slobs.
Hopefully when the interim tag is removed BMFP rips their heads off for that disrespect.
They've done this with all the coaches for the last several years, probably since 2012.
Bob Holt was the worst. May he rest in peace.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 02, 2025, 08:49 AMbig balla, shot calla, 20 inch blades on the impala
Lil' Bass
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 02, 2025, 05:14 PMThey've done this with all the coaches for the last several years, probably since 2012.
Bob Holt was the worst. May he rest in peace.
"Hey Bobby, your back on the sidelines coaching the Razorbacks. Whaddaya think about that?"
RIP Bob. You were definitely one of a kind.
The Arkansas way. Petrino doesn't get the job, Florida fires Napier, hires Petrino. Florida kicks ass again. And we continue to suck.
This thread is filled with insightful, thoughtful, well defended arguments and deep analysis for various candidates. However, I'm afraid the actual selection criteria will be who tickles the right balls the best.
We'll have wasted hours vetting candidates only for them to hire Blake Anderson
Quote from: snoots on Oct 02, 2025, 08:48 PMThis thread is filled with insightful, thoughtful, well defended arguments and deep analysis for various candidates. However, I'm afraid the actual selection criteria will be who tickles the right balls the best.
What about the left balls?
Here is an interesting thought, at least to me. With Petrino in charge, will the recruiting efforts shift to Kane Archer? I don't know what the reason is, but we have apparently ignored that guy, much like Nutt was doing to Tyler Wilson. Of course, when Nutt left, and Petrino was hired, he went all out for Wilson, who he turned into a damned good quarterback.
Of course, my recollection of those events may be in error at this point.
Quote from: RPL on Oct 02, 2025, 09:53 PMWhat about the left balls?
This is Arkansas. We only have one nutt.
Quote from: Papa Pigeritus on Oct 03, 2025, 05:10 AMThis is Arkansas. We only have one nutt.
Didn't we have 2 Nutts? but only one who ever heard about it?
Quote from: egregious on Oct 03, 2025, 07:09 AMDidn't we have 2 Nutts? but only one who ever heard about it?
Well shit, I forgot all about Danny.
I guess we did have a full set.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 02, 2025, 10:01 PMHere is an interesting thought, at least to me. With Petrino in charge, will the recruiting efforts shift to Kane Archer? I don't know what the reason is, but we have apparently ignored that guy, much like Nutt was doing to Tyler Wilson. Of course, when Nutt left, and Petrino was hired, he went all out for Wilson, who he turned into a damned good quarterback.
Of course, my recollection of those events may be in error at this point.
Your memory is correct about Wilson but I have no idea how much he likes Archer. Did he commit to UCF?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 03, 2025, 09:02 AMYour memory is correct about Wilson but I have no idea how much he likes Archer. Did he commit to UCF?
he offered the kid from south carolina - petrino did - instead of archer.
A name I have seen online not sure mentioned here: CUM.
Would be better than Gruden.
I've already got coaching search fatigue and we've got like 9 more weeks left.
I've chosen to block it all out till mid November.
No idea what this page is.
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So many clickbait sites. Lots of them from India and other shithole places, gaming the system for clicks and revenue.
Lashlee should be willing to take a paycut to move the hellout of shithole Dallas. I did 5 years there and I don't care if I ever visit that place again. It's a pit.
Naturally when Yuri said Pittman didn't have the resources to win here it meant there was considerable money sitting on the sidelines not willing to be forked over for Pittman's spare ass.
Oh to be a person who can make or break a football program by opening or closing my checkbook.
We would throw $9 million at a 31-14 coach in his 4th season as HC
The whole Lashlee thing reeks of Chad Morris part deaux
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 04, 2025, 01:19 AMWe would throw $9 million at a 31-14 coach in his 4th season as HC
AND brag about it. And it's 31-15 now
To me it's more about the baby shit soft 31-15. I agree he's better than Pittman and Chad but is he better than Grandpa Petrino? I have my doubts.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 04, 2025, 01:19 AMWe would throw $9 million at a 31-14 coach in his 4th season as HC
But he is a proven winner according to Jerry Jones.
This is Arkansas. If we don't hire Lashlee, he will go on to be another Arkansas guy that Arkansas passed on who went on to win multiple national championships at a place like Kentucky. If Arkansas does hire him, he will go 0-8 in conference two out of the next three years, get fired, and be out of coaching for good by 2031. And during that time BMFP will have some no name school in the playoff talks each year.
Apparently Golesh's wife is from Greenwood.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 04, 2025, 07:24 AMApparently Golesh's wife is from Greenwood.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 03, 2025, 09:46 PMLearned today that his wife is from Greenwood.
RMPL newb.
Can't wait to see what rumors the school spreads about Golesh so they can justify not talking to him
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 04, 2025, 07:43 AMCan't wait to see what rumors the school spreads about Golesh so they can justify not talking to him
There is a picture of him in cornrows out there somewhere.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 04, 2025, 07:43 AMCan't wait to see what rumors the school spreads about Golesh so they can justify not talking to him
He's got a gambling problem!!
I heard the South Florida coach is building a house in NWA already. C:-)
"momma's coming home".
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 04, 2025, 07:34 AMRMPL newb.
Also heard on a podcast that she comes back every weekend or something to work in a nursing home. Not sure if true.
Golesh is a Russian, our mascot is a Russian boar, is it like Gurden's tie? Prepare for the Goulash nickname and autocorrects.
Read somewhere that Jerry Jones wants Lashlee. Jerry Jones needs to keep his old ass out of things.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 04, 2025, 08:23 AMRead somewhere that Jerry Jones wants Lashlee. Jerry Jones needs to keep his old ass out of things.
After the Chad debacle, I'm in favor of avoiding whomever Jerrah suggests with a "Thanks, now I know who to avoid".
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 04, 2025, 08:23 AMRead somewhere that Jerry Jones wants Lashlee. Jerry Jones needs to keep his old ass out of things.
Oh it's already happening. Chad Morris II is in full effect
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-football-truth-jerry-jones-rob-walton-tag-teaming-rumor/
Two things are true.
1. If we hire Rhett he will flop here
2. If we don't hire Rhett he will have massive success somewhere else and we'll add him to the "what if" pile that includes Johnson, Tubberville, Davis, etc. He'll also get hired by a school we play regularly and he'll have a massive hard on to destroy us every time we play
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 04, 2025, 06:38 AMThe whole Lashlee thing reeks of Chad Morris part deaux
Why?
The only real similarity I see is that they would both be coming from SMU.
Rhett has won there, fairly consistently while playing in a tougher conference. Morris barely had one over .500 year, which only happened because the officials stole one game from Tulane at the end.
The Lashlee fascination is more similar to the Malzahn Springdale mob thing more so than any similarities with Chad.
The key difference being we probably weren't going to beat out Auburn for Malzahn at the times we were hiring (and didn't) but he sure used us to get some raises. Lashlee may be of that same pedigree of coach but for whatever reason I get the Skip Holtz vibe from him. So basically he'll always be in that near-do-well camp but not actually elite.
Quote from: animal on Oct 04, 2025, 09:42 AMThe Lashlee fascination is more similar to the Malzahn Springdale mob thing more so than any similarities with Chad.
The key difference being we probably weren't going to beat out Auburn for Malzahn at the times we were hiring (and didn't) but he sure used us to get some raises. Lashlee may be of that same pedigree of coach but for whatever reason I get the Skip Holtz vibe from him. So basically he'll always be in that near-do-well camp but not actually elite.
I don't see the Skip Holtz comp either. Skip's record was always mediocre at every stop.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 04, 2025, 08:52 AMWhy?
The only real similarity I see is that they would both be coming from SMU.
Rhett has won there, fairly consistently while playing in a tougher conference. Morris barely had one over .500 year, which only happened because the officials stole one game from Tulane at the end.
Because the only reason he's been a success at SMU is by being able to outbid the other schools for the players in that conference with that fat SMU NIL. He might be able to outbid a few in the SEC but not many. Plus he's only 2-2 this season.
Hire Bobby for cheaper than $9 mill and have more money to buy more better players.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 04, 2025, 06:38 AMThe whole Lashlee thing reeks of Chad Morris part deaux
That's what I'm afraid of
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 04, 2025, 07:15 AMBut he is a proven winner according to Jerry Jones.
This is Arkansas. If we don't hire Lashlee, he will go on to be another Arkansas guy that Arkansas passed on who went on to win multiple national championships at a place like Kentucky. If Arkansas does hire him, he will go 0-8 in conference two out of the next three years, get fired, and be out of coaching for good by 2031. And during that time BMFP will have some no name school in the playoff talks each year.
This is the Razorbacks way
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 04, 2025, 08:52 AMWhy?
The only real similarity I see is that they would both be coming from SMU.
Rhett has won there, fairly consistently while playing in a tougher conference. Morris barely had one over .500 year, which only happened because the officials stole one game from Tulane at the end.
PTSD
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 04, 2025, 11:05 AMBecause the only reason he's been a success at SMU is by being able to outbid the other schools for the players in that conference with that fat SMU NIL. He might be able to outbid a few in the SEC but not many. Plus he's only 2-2 this season.
That's not true though. Their NIL is supposedly not any better than anyone else's. Their boosters are having to come up with $45 million per year to run the athletic department for the first ten years. The only way they could get into the ACC was to agree to take no media rights money for the first ten years.
Last year they won the ACC regular season with probably the 8th best roster.
In all fairness, the ACC was awful last year.
We're going to beat Tennessee and settle all this shit.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 04, 2025, 12:22 PMWe're going to beat Tennessee and settle all this shit.
National media would have a fit.
I'm not saying he's a candidate (or should be), but Lunney Jr has a good offensive scheme at Illinois.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 04, 2025, 11:57 AMThat's not true though. Their NIL is supposedly not any better than anyone else's. Their boosters are having to come up with $45 million per year to run the athletic department for the first ten years. The only way they could get into the ACC was to agree to take no media rights money for the first ten years.
Last year they won the ACC regular season with probably the 8th best roster.
This right here. SMU sold their soul to get in the ACC, which has a questionable life expectancy in that. They still suffer from the same problem most private schools have: all their fans are alums. TCU has done well because of Patterson to try being the school for Ft Worth but it's limited. It's upside down to so many schools like Arkansas where most of the fan base never went to school there.
I think lashlee is a pretty good coach but I think he's comfortable in his current place and being in Dallas. He should not be chased. I like the Tulane coach much better as well as a few others.
While I prefer Sumrall and Golesh, I find the Chad comparison to Lashlee, laughable at best. If hiring Lashlee will greatly increase our NIL, then that would be a great hire.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 04, 2025, 06:48 PMWhile I prefer Sumrall and Golesh, I find the Chad comparison to Lashlee, laughable at best. If hiring Lashlee will greatly increase our NIL, then that would be a great hire.
I think folks just have Chad PTSD.
Likewise I'd prefer either of those, but as you said, if Lashlee brings in the NIL then he has to be the guy.
If we offer Lashlee more NIL than other coaches, then our donors are dumber than I thought.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2025, 07:04 PMIf we offer Lashlee more NIL than other coaches, then our donors are dumber than I thought.
Why is that?
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 04, 2025, 12:32 PMI'm not saying he's a candidate (or should be), but Lunney Jr has a good offensive scheme at Illinois.
If we are going to get somebody that loves the helmet, I'd just as soon it be him.
For one. there are several better options. Two, support the program. You wanna hold out because we didn't hire youe favorite candidate, that's petty HS shit.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2025, 07:04 PMIf we offer Lashlee more NIL than other coaches, then our donors are dumber than I thought.
If the Springdale Mafia want to spend big money to get their precious boy back home, so be it. I just want to win, I don't care how the sausage is made.
Here's a little news flash for you guys. If you want to hire a good coach or even okish coach and make him want to leave a gig that he's probably going to win 10 games a year at...it's going to cost more than 6 million a year.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 04, 2025, 07:27 PMIf the Springdale Mafia want to spend big money to get their precious boy back home, so be it. I just want to win, I don't care how the sausage is made.
Me too. I'll pull for Lashlee and donate the same amount if he is hired. He's not my top choice.
Quote from: animal on Oct 04, 2025, 07:28 PMHere's a little news flash for you guys. If you want to hire a good coach or even okish coach and make him want to leave a gig that he's probably going to win 10 games a year at...it's going to cost more than 6 million a year.
Yep, why I said this hit will show how much we will commit to winning football games.
I won't be excited for Lashley, but then again we haven't hired a football coach that had me excited on day one since Bobby.
If he hires top shelf coordinators and gets enough money to buys us, not just a few skill position guys, but great OL and DL, then I'll be excited.
But then again, I'll be excited anyway if we have good coordinators and enough NIL to compete in all phases of the game.
What's up with Lashley having three OCs at SMU? One is the OC, and two are co-OCs.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 04, 2025, 09:04 PMWhat's up with Lashley having three OCs at SMU? One is the OC, and two are co-OCs.
looks like he just gave the wr, te, and o-line coaches the title.
he did the same for the safeties, cornerbacks, and lb coaches on the defensive side.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 04, 2025, 09:19 PMlooks like he just gave the wr, te, and o-line coaches the title.
he did the same for the safeties, cornerbacks, and lb coaches on the defensive side.
Perfect coach for the trophy generation
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2025, 07:15 PMFor one. there are several better options. Two, support the program. You wanna hold out because we didn't hire your favorite candidate, that's petty HS shit.
It's far from that. It's wise business decision making for those who can move the needle. For Average Joe giving $20/month, blind loyalty is fine.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 04, 2025, 09:19 PMlooks like he just gave the wr, te, and o-line coaches the title.
he did the same for the safeties, cornerbacks, and lb coaches on the defensive side.
Do they play ghey football?
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 04, 2025, 10:44 PMDo they play ghey football?
don't know the answer to that and damn sure don't want to find out.
There is no guarantee that any of the coaches mentioned will win more games than other candidates. It's not a business decision. It's a crap shoot with zero return regardless of the results.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2025, 10:47 PMThere is no guarantee that any of the coaches mentioned will win more games than other candidates. It's not a business decision. It's a crap shoot with zero return regardless of the results.
Which is why if he even sniffs showing some semblance of getting the defense to play harder and somehow manages to scratch together a win or two, the job should be Petrinos.
I'd rather have Silverfield. Memphis has over 70 new players. Tells me he can go get what he needs.
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The likelihood that Bobby Petrino can turn around Arkansas's football team this season—given the level of quit previously shown under Sam Pittman—appears limited but not impossible, according to recent analysis from local and national sources.
Pittman's teams lost intensity and accountability: Under Sam Pittman, Arkansas's culture "turned comfortable instead of competitive." Repeated errors went unpunished, and players felt little consequence for mistakes or lack of effort. Practices became less physical, and there was a visible drop in both discipline and motivation, with media and fans noting the team had "basically quit" by the end of his tenure.
Petrino brings blunt accountability and demands performance: Petrino's immediate steps as interim coach included firing several defensive coaches to send a message about standards and consequences. Unlike Pittman, Petrino is not known for pep talks—he expects action and is willing to bench under-performers and call out sloppy play. There is hope among Razorback observers that restoring discipline and urgency may start to reverse some of the apathy in the locker room, but the roster is thin and the schedule difficult.
Realistic expectations: Most analysts do not expect Petrino to produce an instant turnaround or make Arkansas an SEC contender this season. The team's depth and morale challenges run deep, and the strength of schedule is brutal. However, a shift to demanding accountability—reducing unforced errors and quit—could restore some competitiveness and pride, even if results on the scoreboard don't immediately reflect it.[/size][/color][/font][/size][/color][/li][/list]
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Petrino's leadership style and immediate actions suggest he can raise standards and halt the worst of the quit culture, but a dramatic turnaround in wins is unlikely, given the roster he inherited and the circumstances. The season is more about laying groundwork for culture change rather than expecting a rapid conversion of losses to victories.The most realistic outcome:
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2025, 07:15 PMFor one. there are several better options. Two, support the program. You wanna hold out because we didn't hire youe favorite candidate, that's petty HS shit.
Two I can understand. One is simply your opinion and, at the moment at least, not backed up by statistics.
Our athletic department has been dysfunctional since JFB lost his faculties. While I agree people should support the program consistently, the only leverage people have to effect change that is often obviously needed and being ignored is withholding contributions. And I'm not in the business of telling other people how to spend their money.
For example , if I ever get enough money to donate enough that would warrant putting my name on a facility, instead I would ask that John White's name be taken off of any existing buildings, or that the new one would be named the "John White is a Piece of Shit" memorial building. Pretty sure none of that is happening on its own.
You're right. It is 100% opinion, which is my point. No one has a clue which coach would win more here than the others. You're just picking favorites.
That's why I applaud what TT has done. They have a mid level coach that their donors backed. They want to flip the script on TT football. and so far it looks to be working.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 05, 2025, 09:04 AMYou're right. It is 100% opinion, which is my point. No one has a clue which coach would win more here than the others. You're just picking favorites.
That's why I applaud what TT has done. They have a mid level coach that their donors backed. They want to flip the script on TT football. and so far it looks to be working.
I don't know enough about Tech football to know if their coach is mid level or better. Would need to see things like his record in one score games, how often they turned the ball over, their conditioning, and overall effort level.
But yes it would be nice to have a mega donor who was willing to fund football the way Tech does. He just started doing that this year. Who's to say he won't withhold funds if he doesn't like the direction of the program or disagrees with personnel decisions.
EDIT: McGuire is 13-4 in one score games. None of those are from this year, the first one where he's had the massive NIL war chest.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 04, 2025, 10:26 PMIt's far from that. It's wise business decision making for those who can move the needle. For Average Joe giving $20/month, blind loyalty is fine.
And I am sure "those who can move the needle" know a lot about hiring football coaches.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 05, 2025, 07:02 AMTwo I can understand. One is simply your opinion and, at the moment at least, not backed up by statistics.
Our athletic department has been dysfunctional since JFB lost his faculties. While I agree people should support the program consistently, the only leverage people have to effect change that is often obviously needed and being ignored is withholding contributions. And I'm not in the business of telling other people how to spend their money.
For example , if I ever get enough money to donate enough that would warrant putting my name on a facility, instead I would ask that John White's name be taken off of any existing buildings, or that the new one would be named the "John White is a Piece of Shit" memorial building. Pretty sure none of that is happening on its own.
Your last paragraph brought me to tears of joy. I won't set foot in Engineering Hall because his name is on it.
One score records of coaches supposedly on our list:
Lashlee: 7-7
Sumrall: 12-3
Golesh: 2-1
Mullen: 29-23
Silverfield: 18-12
Malzahn: 37-28
Petrino: 31-24
Pittman:7-19
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 05, 2025, 09:49 AMYour last paragraph brought me to tears of joy. I won't set foot in Engineering Hall because his name is on it.
He doesn't deserve so much as the glory hole in the fine arts bathroom to be named after him.
I would to this day contribute a years supply of urinal screens with his picture on them if they would put them in every restroom on campus.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 05, 2025, 09:58 AMOne score records of coaches supposedly on our list:
Lashlee: 7-7
Sumrall: 12-3
Golesh: 2-1
Mullen: 29-23
Silverfield: 18-12
Malzahn: 37-28
Petrino: 31-24
Pittman:7-19
Solid efforting.
I honestly don't get the fascination around 1 score games. Sometimes you win or lose by 1 score when you're expected to win/lose by more.
I also think that is more indicative of your players. I had a long chat a few weeks ago with Jerry Wainwright about this.
If it is important to you, do you still feel Lashlee is the best option statistically?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 05, 2025, 10:56 AMSolid efforting.
I honestly don't get the fascination around 1 score games. Sometimes you win or lose by 1 score when you're expected to win/lose by more.
I also think that is more indicative of your players. I had a long chat a few weeks ago with Jerry Wainwright about this.
If it is important to you, do you still feel Lashlee is the best option statistically?
It's a piece of the puzzle, a data point. Overall record and difficulty of opponents also matters. Note that I didn't say Lashlee was the best statistically- just that he wasn't clearly below any of the others.
My thought is that luck should dictate a .500ish record. Anything significantly above (with enough sample size) probably means doing a better job and below means subpar performance.
Being at a talent disadvantage to me would mean fewer one score games overall. If your talent is good enough to get you close, you should still win roughly half of them.
Obviously there were some for Pittman where his team did well to get that close, and a couple where officials screwed them out of a chance to win. There were also some where we had the talent advantage - Liberty, BYU, and 2023 Miss State come to mind - where we just flat out blew them, so that equals out a lot. Most of the ones against OM, Missouri, Auburn, and even 2022 aTm were against similar talent. To me it's a big enough sample to be an indictment of Pittman's ability rather than a positive point on his resume.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 05, 2025, 09:58 AMOne score records of coaches supposedly on our list:
Sumrall: 12-3
Yes please
Lashlee got outscored 15-0 in the second half by Syracuse
There is one candidate who has proven he can succeed at Arkansas and he is currently the interim head coach. Subjectively, he has been the most successful HC since Holtz. I don't believe in coincidences; i.e. Petrino's hiring as OC was not just to run the offense. All the others will be a crapshoot and everybody knows how those have panned out. If there are players who want to leave because they think he's too tough he'll let them walk if he doesn't want them and he'll talk them into staying if he wants them. Remember DJ Williams? Some who are with other schools may want to come to Arkansas.
Petrino is the only choice. The only variable is HY. He needs to pick Petrino and show he has the balls to tell any of the big money donors that want someone else to fuck off. In the end, they'll bite their tongue and go along with it. They won't close their checkbooks and hurt the team they care so much about. Petrino has forgotten more about football than any of them ever knew.
Petrino would take a below market salary to get the job, knowing the big money will come after he shows what he can do. He wants to be here and he wants this to be his last job. HY needs to take a chance and he and Petrino will be heroes or out of a job. It'll be the former.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 05, 2025, 11:21 AMYes please
This is me. Petrino, if they show anything the rest of the year or if not, Sumrall.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Oct 05, 2025, 12:32 PMThere is one candidate who has proven he can succeed at Arkansas and he is currently the interim head coach. Subjectively, he has been the most successful HC since Holtz. I don't believe in coincidences; i.e. Petrino's hiring as OC was not just to run the offense. All the others will be a crapshoot and everybody knows how those have panned out. If there are players who want to leave because they think he's too tough he'll let them walk if he doesn't want them and he'll talk them into staying if he wants them. Remember DJ Williams? Some who are with other schools may want to come to Arkansas.
Petrino is the only choice. The only variable is HY. He needs to pick Petrino and show he has the balls to tell any of the big money donors that want someone else to fuck off. In the end, they'll bite their tongue and go along with it. They won't close their checkbooks and hurt the team they care so much about. Petrino has forgotten more about football than any of them ever knew.
Petrino would take a below market salary to get the job, knowing the big money will come after he shows what he can do. He wants to be here and he wants this to be his last job. HY needs to take a chance and he and Petrino will be heroes or out of a job. It'll be the former.
The only part of your statement that worries me is "he wants this to be his last job." It seems like we hire a lot of coaches that want to retire here and we pay them well to drift off into the sunset. I am on a wait and see point. Let's see if BMFP can turn things around. And if he does, give him a raise but not a stupid buyout.
I wouldn't be surprised if a few big money donors don't already realize this and are for Petrino. They were all along.
If he ends up being hired, Lashlee and everything else was a smokescreen. And most likely, whatever contract that is being made will be favorable to the university
His last contract was favorable to the university. I bet his next one will be too.
To me Petrino at present makes sense because...
1. Do you really want HY making a for real hire or one of convenience that at the end of the day is still likely a huge upgrade over Pittman? It will look like a safe choice and rights some wrongs from the past probably makes ESPN gurgle cum thinking about how they are going to poor mouth the hire.
2. Petrino may very well earn the spot forcing the decision OR may do well enough to attract the attention of other jobs forcing Arkansas to panic hire.
But we'll have to see how this all turns out...are we going to feel the same way if we go 0-8 in conference?
Quote from: BASS on Oct 05, 2025, 12:24 PMLashlee got outscored 15-0 in the second half by Syracuse
Petrino got outscored 15-3 in the second half by Memphis.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2025, 12:46 PMThe only part of your statement that worries me is "he wants this to be his last job." It seems like we hire a lot of coaches that want to retire here and we pay them well to drift off into the sunset. I am on a wait and see point. Let's see if BMFP can turn things around. And if he does, give him a raise but not a stupid buyout.
In an alternate happy universe, we would have been his last job the last time around. He certainly acted like he was planning for the long haul. I think he genuinely loves living up there and loves Arkansas. I bet he'll retire there if he doesn't get the job.
Doubt Petrino would be successful in this era as a head coach.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:11 PMDoubt Petrino would be successful in this era as a head coach.
Don't care.
Petrino knows the players and his system is already installed. There's minimal transition.
Still popular with the fans. Theyll fork over their hard earned cash and asses will be in the stands.
It makes a lot of sense.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:11 PMDoubt Petrino would be successful in this era as a head coach.
We are winning a natty with Petrino!
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 05, 2025, 01:42 PMWe are winning a natty with Petrino!
As usual, you know I'm right. You know the staff will be ass. I bet Klenakis is available.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:44 PMAs usual, you know I'm right.
Very poor grammar.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:44 PMAs usual, you know I'm right. You know the staff will be ass. I bet Klenakis is available.
As opposed to the great staff we currently have?
If anything Petrino should have a better chance at getting players provided the money is there.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 05, 2025, 01:58 PMAs opposed to the great staff we currently have?
If anything Petrino should have a better chance at getting players provided the money is there.
I wouldn't be excited. If that's the best we can do in 2025 shut the program down or leave P4 football.
One thing I feel good about Petrino is his player evaluation skills for all positions and his ability to make smart decisions with nil and who is worth what.
I think he'd make an excellent NFL gm. Look how efficient our offense is, I don't think we expected our receivers and tight ends to be so baller.
That may be one of the most important skills to have in this era.
Petrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.
I think Petrino will need at least two years to get a pretty salty team in. I am not sure Jesus could do anything with the defense we have this year. And defense wins games.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.
This is something we often gloss over while fondly reminiscing of the good ol' years. Petrino was not a good recruiter. He simply wasn't... and he has a terrible national rep in the media (some of it very unfairly). Now, can NIL overcome that? Maybe. Can he still be a hard ass but tone it enough for the cry baby portal era? Maybe.
I'm in wait and see mode. Though nothing would please me more than for BMFP to return and win and win big. I'm ready to be the villain again. Will that happen? I don't know. I think he's set up for failure right now and winning more than 2 would be miraculous. Winning 2 will be a very tough uphill battle.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:11 PMDoubt Petrino would be successful in this era as a head coach.
I was already in the pro-BMFP camp. I am certain now that he will win big.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.
He made those guys better than they otherwise would have been.
I like Petrino, but his second go around at Louisville wasn't as good as his first. He had issues replacing the the talent Charlie left him, especially on defense. He also had a problem getting good assistants. Half of that team was wanting to transfer when he was finally let go.
I'd prefer someone younger who relates better to this generation. I'd also like someone who can navigate the NIL and transfer portal better. Sumrall is my first choice, but we'll significantly have to upgrade a number of things for him to consider us.
Maybe be he can get Charlie Strong to be dc. Let Charlie have a leash to keep Petrino in check with the players. From all I know, Charlie's players all loved him. And he was a great dc, just not a great head coach.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 05, 2025, 03:13 PMI'd prefer someone younger who relates better to this generation.
to expand a little on that part.
he's going to be 65 going into spring ball. how long of a contract will he get? there is no 'long haul' for a guy that's 70-71 years old after his contract ends.
Are we sleeping on Joey McGuire or is his contract buyout considered too steep?
I think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 05, 2025, 03:33 PMto expand a little on that part.
he's going to be 65 going into spring ball. how long of a contract will he get? there is no 'long haul' for a guy that's 70-71 years old after his contract ends.
Do you have those same concerns about Cal?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2025, 03:47 PMI think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?
Hopefully we have built a winning culture with deep support from our donors/fanbase by then.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2025, 03:47 PMI think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?
kinda what i was saying. do we go thru this in another four years.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 03:48 PMDo you have those same concerns about Cal?
no. look at the bball coaches that can go into their mid to late seventies with great success, and now name the ones who have done so recently in football. apples to oranges when trying to compare the two sports.
cal gets today's kids, throw in his personality and it's easy to see why they get him.
i've already said petrino would be fine, just not my first choice.
I look at it like the odds being low we get much more than about 7 years regardless who we hire. Sure the odds of getting 15 years out of a 65 year old coach is nearly zero but in this age of ever changing rules and shit you need to shift gears anyway.
it's a roll of the dice either way. but with a little patience and a lot of support somebody's going to get the next matt campbell.
Quote from: animal on Oct 05, 2025, 03:45 PMAre we sleeping on Joey McGuire or is his contract buyout considered too steep?
Why woukd he leave a program actively being bankrolled by a billionaire?
Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.
That's what Nil is for
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 03:48 PMDo you have those same concerns about Cal?
How many national championships has Petrino won? How many has he played in? How many final 4"s? Not a realistic comparison
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 05, 2025, 04:50 PMWhy woukd he leave a program actively being bankrolled by a billionaire?
not only that, but you don't wait for these guys to go to p4 schools and then try to hire them away. that's where you just get worked by the agents and they get a raise.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 05, 2025, 05:39 PMHow many national championships has Petrino won? How many has he played in? How many final 4"s? Not a realistic comparison
He has 1 less title than Cal and the same number as DVH.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 02:50 PMI was already in the pro-BMFP camp. I am certain now that he will win big.
Dream on. Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Upside is 8-4.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 06:11 PMHe has 1 less title than Cal and the same number as DVH.
Please show the history of where Petrino has built and sustained a program.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 06:11 PMHe has 1 less title than Cal and the same number as DVH.
What about my other two questions?
Also, didn't realize DVH was just hired. Again, that is a dumb comparison. You should probably check to see what DVH was doing in 1994 too.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 05, 2025, 06:45 PMWhat about my other two questions?
Also, didn't realize DVH was just hired. Again, that is a dumb comparison. You should probably check to see what DVH was doing in 1994 too.
Who do you want us to hire?
I honestly have no clue. I think I feel like so many others. You let Bobby have his chance and go from there.
I'm not sold on Lashlee. Not a Gus fan. Don't know enough about the others that have been mentioned.
If you want to see what Gruden could do, look at Belichik. He's fishing for that last big payout, except now he's going to get that nfl settlement.
There isn't a runaway candidate. Every person listed has similar number of pro's/con's.
I tilt to BP for nostalgia reasons. Love him as OC. Reservations as a HC. I'd love nothing more than for him to come in and start kicking ass again.
Next would be Mullen for sustained success at Moo St. Which isn't easy. He had them #1 for a few weeks and only had 2 losing seasons there. That's impressive.
The rest, pick a name from a hat.
No coach is likely to stay longer than four or five years these days, or at least you can't plan on it. Coaches don't build anything other than the program they have at that instant as that all the players can leave tomorrow.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that you shouldn't hire a younger guy hoping he stays for a long time. You shouldn't hire a big name just to make a splash. You just need to hire the best coach you can get and help him put together a roster he can compete with with every year.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 05, 2025, 07:30 PMI honestly have no clue. I think I feel like so many others. You let Bobby have his chance and go from there.
I'm not sold on Lashlee. Not a Gus fan. Don't know enough about the others that have been mentioned.
I'm in the same boat. You've played devils advocate against Petrino in several posts so I was curious. Sumrall feels like the closest thing to a "home run" but I don't like our chances.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 05, 2025, 07:41 PMThere isn't a runaway candidate. Every person listed has similar number of pro's/con's.
I tilt to BP for nostalgia reasons. Love him as OC. Reservations as a HC. I'd love nothing more than for him to come in and start kicking ass again.
Next would be Mullen for sustained success at Moo St. Which isn't easy. He had them #1 for a few weeks and only had 2 losing seasons there. That's impressive.
The rest, pick a name from a hat.
Mullen is a high floor guy. He got a raw deal at Florida. They panicked because Georgia started winning titles and Mullen wasn't recruiting well.
It seems like he should be older than 53. He's been around what seems like forever as a head coach.
Agree, feels like he is older. His bad year at FL was what 5-7? Still only had 1 bad year there. The guy knows football. People question his recruiting like BP. NIL should help that.
Checked: Holy shit. He was 36 when he started at Moo St. Don't recall him being that young when he was hired.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 05, 2025, 07:50 PMI'm in the same boat. You've played devils advocate against Petrino in several posts so I was curious. Sumrall feels like the closest thing to a "home run" but I don't like our chances.
I LOVED old Petrino. I'm just not sure that is what we're getting. I'm also not sure time will tell. As others have pointed out, old Petrino might not work in today's college football.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 05, 2025, 07:58 PMAgree, feels like he is older. His bad year at FL was what 5-7? Still only had 1 bad year there. The guy knows football. People question his recruiting like BP. NIL should help that.
Checked: Holy shit. He was 36 when he started at Moo St. Don't recall him being that young when he was hired.
He definitely has the best resume of the realistic names being floated, mainly for what he did in Starkghanistan. I never loved his offense but the one with Trask, Pitts, Toney, etc. was awesome. I question is his ability to excite a fanbase enough for fundraising but on paper he's solid.
Recruiting was the issue at FL but that doesn't matter now. You want the best strategist and QB coach you can find which is why I think he or Petrino coild potentially be great if the NIL funding is there.
Let's face it. There is never a sure-fire hire. It doesn't matter if it is Jimbo Fisher (see how that worked out) or Lane Kiffin (some of you may argue about it, but we don't have any idea what he would have done at Arkansas).
Obviously with any of the up & comers, like Sumrall or Golesh, you are taking a chance.
HY is just going to have to man up and pick the one he thinks is the best fit and the most likely to succeed. It's a crap-shoot under the best of circumstances.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 05, 2025, 08:48 PMLet's face it. There is never a sure-fire hire. It doesn't matter if it is Jimbo Fisher (see how that worked out) or Lane Kiffin (some of you may argue about it, but we don't have any idea what he would have done at Arkansas).
Obviously with any of the up & comers, like Sumrall or Golesh, you are taking a chance.
HY is just going to have to man up and pick the one he thinks is the best fit and the most likely to succeed. It's a crap-shoot under the best of circumstances.
Would rather take the chance and may get lucky and catch lighting in a bottle.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 05, 2025, 08:48 PMLet's face it. There is never a sure-fire hire. It doesn't matter if it is Jimbo Fisher (see how that worked out) or Lane Kiffin (some of you may argue about it, but we don't have any idea what he would have done at Arkansas).
Obviously with any of the up & comers, like Sumrall or Golesh, you are taking a chance.
HY is just going to have to man up and pick the one he thinks is the best fit and the most likely to succeed. It's a crap-shoot under the best of circumstances.
It really is a crap shoot.
It's okay to take a chance on an up and comer. As someone said, it's better to get them on the way up rather than when they're established (and can use us for a raise).
The problem with us is we give those up and comers giant contracts after one 8 win season. The advantage of a young coach is a cheap deal to make them prove themselves.
Some nobody comes in an wins the liberty bowl and we name them coach for life. Of course they're gonna get lazy
More on one score games, from SEC Mike.
https://x.com/MichaelWBratton/status/1974903484614128070
The takeaway there seems to be that coaching has a lot to do with it, that it isn't just talent. Otherwise you wouldn't see Stoops, Kiffin and Beamer on the plus side with Freeze, Sark, and DeBoer with less than stellar records. Maybe Freeze shouldn't be included there as Auburn's talent the last couple of years has dipped, but they've recruited pretty well both in the portal and high school ranks.
jury is not out on DeBoer yet - he won a lot everywhere else he has been but it does match up so far
Quote from: egregious on Oct 06, 2025, 08:46 AMjury is not out on DeBoer yet - he won a lot everywhere else he has been but it does match up so far
I agree. He's a better coach than the Gumptards think.
https://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Interviews "like these." Interviews like what?
He looks like he enjoys white bread much more than mac and cheese.
(https://www.columbiatribune.com/gcdn/presto/2023/01/07/NCDT/6e750c8e-80c3-4df5-868f-44fa14cdcacd-USATSI_19740856.jpg)
Yeah. This will end well.
Missouri OC? What the fuck.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 06, 2025, 12:35 PMMissouri OC? What the fuck.
yeah, that is fucking scary. on zero point zero teams' radar.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 06, 2025, 12:37 PMyeah, that is fucking scary. on zero point zero teams' radar.
Feels like HY just wants to get some interviews covered before the end of the season, when the heavy hitters will finally be willing to talk. I'm sure he's talking with reps of the top coaches on the side, too.
I'm worried Yurachek believes he needs to make a miracle, outside of the box hire to keep his job. No other reason to interview the Misery OC. We're fuc't if that's the case.
I was thinking about DeBoer today. Alabama fans mercilessly shit talked him, so why not make an offer. Alabama will be glad to get rid of him and Arkansas would be grateful .Kind of like Kentucky with Cal, but I know his buyout is insane. It's going to end ugly at Alabama at some point because Alabama cant accept that their football program is mortal now. I am liking Dan Mullen more and more. He is going to wind up at a mid tier school and do well at some point, so why not us?
It might be one of those "Hey hunter, my friend's sister's boyfriend is looking for a job, do you have anything open or coming open? I told them I'd ask."
"Sure, tell him to send me a resume and I'll give him a call."
Job goes to whoever sends Hunter a nice flattering note right?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 06, 2025, 01:43 PMJob goes to whoever sends Hunter a nice flattering note right?
with a c-note tucked inside. we're in the third lane now!
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Yeah. This will end well.
Do they play the ghey football?
Quote from: HTL on Oct 06, 2025, 11:51 AMhttps://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Whew, I was afraid we wouldn't aim big.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 06, 2025, 11:51 AMhttps://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/rileymcferran/status/1975224149703553032?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
I do not know this smuck but I'd bet more than anything this is nothing but click bait. Just like 90% of the shit on the interwebs about Razorback Football coaching changes.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 06, 2025, 12:14 PM(https://www.columbiatribune.com/gcdn/presto/2023/01/07/NCDT/6e750c8e-80c3-4df5-868f-44fa14cdcacd-USATSI_19740856.jpg)
Yeah. This will end well.
I thought he was in jail for the Idaho murders. We're fooked. Coming to finish off the football program, I reckon.
Quote from: razor5396 on Oct 06, 2025, 01:28 PMI was thinking about DeBoer today. Alabama fans mercilessly shit talked him, so why not make an offer. Alabama will be glad to get rid of him and Arkansas would be grateful .Kind of like Kentucky with Cal, but I know his buyout is insane. It's going to end ugly at Alabama at some point because Alabama cant accept that their football program is mortal now. I am liking Dan Mullen more and more. He is going to wind up at a mid tier school and do well at some point, so why not us?
DeBoer would be awesome.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 06, 2025, 03:31 PMI thought he was in jail for the Idaho murders. We're fooked. Coming to finish off the football program, I reckon.
Thank you. I couldn't figure out who he reminded me of, but that's it.
Kirby Moore...that's kellen Moore's little brother isn't it?
I don't see us going the coordinator route. This is too big a hire for HY
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 06, 2025, 01:43 PMJob goes to whoever sends Hunter a nice flattering note right?
I thought that worked with Long. Does it work with HY also?
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 06, 2025, 03:31 PMI thought he was in jail for the Idaho murders. We're fooked. Coming to finish off the football program, I reckon.
Nice
Quote from: egregious on Oct 06, 2025, 08:46 AMjury is not out on DeBoer yet - he won a lot everywhere else he has been but it does match up so far
I think that means the jury IS still out, no?
I watched this game in the bar that sold the penny pitchers back in the day. It's now Hugo's.
The most unlikely upset I've ever witnessed.
Those were some big shoulder pads.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 07, 2025, 09:57 AM
I watched this game in the bar that sold the penny pitchers back in the day. It's now Hugo's.
The most unlikely upset I've ever witnessed.
Pretty sure JR's was home of the penny pitcher night. Hugo's is couple doors down and has been since 1977.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 07, 2025, 10:12 AMPretty sure JR's was home of the penny pitcher night. Hugo's is couple doors down and has been since 1977.
Thanks. I knew a drank a lot back then, but didn't think I killed that many brain cells.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 05, 2025, 03:13 PMI like Petrino, but his second go around at Louisville wasn't as good as his first. He had issues replacing the the talent Charlie left him, especially on defense. He also had a problem getting good assistants. Half of that team was wanting to transfer when he was finally let go.
I'm still dubious Petrino 2.0 would be anywhere near the level of his first tenure, but the "it fell apart at Louisville" is a bit of revisionist history.
Sure they weren't winning 11 games a year, but they won 8 or 9 games every year until his last season. At one point in 2016 they were 9-1 and #3 in the country in November.
The AD turmoil and players noping out plus a couple of those post-Lamar Jackson QBs were god awful.
I agree Petrino isn't exactly the greatest recruiter but NOBODY really knows how that would be in the NIL era with him in command. Also I think NIL buying power is going to be what makes or breaks programs...coaching still has to be there at the end of the day and I lean on Petrino's ability to get people ready (If he's not old and phoning it in to the school that rail roaded him over some side pussy)
We're still a retarded fan base
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1975575973358936296
If you are willing to take Mullen then you might as well hire Petrino. They both are equivalent hires in my eyes. Gruden, just stop. My gosh. Retarded. Sumerall and Lashlee, niether excite me but we could do a lot worse. Top two should be Lashlee and Petrino. Sneak a guy like Sumerall in if you want. Doesn't bother me honestly. As someone said recently, this is one big crap shoot.
don't sleep on morris at north texas. they are 5-0 for the first time in like a century, and they are in the sun belt, much stiffer competition than most of their existence.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 06, 2025, 10:33 PMI think that means the jury IS still out, no?
I have such scorn for the "legal" profession that I fuck of their cliches, too!
Actually I am a dumbass who doesn't pay attention to much.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 07, 2025, 03:50 PMGruden, just stop. My gosh. Retarded.
Do you say this because you don't think he'd come here or because you think he would be a terrible college coach?
Quote from: BASS on Oct 07, 2025, 04:04 PMdon't sleep on morris at north texas. they are 5-0 for the first time in like a century, and they are in the sun belt, much stiffer competition than most of their existence.
Actually, they are in the American Conference, but I think that's a stronger conference than the SunBelt.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 07, 2025, 05:05 PMActually, they are in the American Conference, but I think that's a stronger conference than the SunBelt.
Ah shit, that's right, my bad. I think part of their record is they are making enough money now they don't need to be a rent a win. Starting 5-0 is hard when you're playing sec and big 12 the first few weeks every year.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 07, 2025, 05:04 PMDo you say this because you don't think he'd come here or because you think he would be a terrible college coach?
Correct answer is both.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 07, 2025, 09:57 AM
I watched this game in the bar that sold the penny pitchers back in the day. It's now Hugo's.
The most unlikely upset I've ever witnessed.
My dad said at the end of the game, when it showed the Tenner fan with the Hog hat with a noose, "hang that hog you cocksucker." Pretty cool.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 07, 2025, 10:12 AMPretty sure JR's was home of the penny pitcher night. Hugo's is couple doors down and has been since 1977.
It may have been JR's. It was difficult to walk
up the stairs. 🍻
Quote from: Loma on Oct 07, 2025, 09:57 AM
I watched this game in the bar that sold the penny pitchers back in the day. It's now Hugo's.
The most unlikely upset I've ever witnessed.
I was there. 1st time at a game in Knoxville and it was awesome. The Vols call-in show after the game was brutal.
That game pretty much was the beginning of the end for Johnny Majors.
Don't worry. That sawed off human testicle Duckman says the next coach will have unlimited NIL!
Quote from: HTL on Oct 08, 2025, 08:21 AMDon't worry. That sawed off human testicle Duckman says the next coach will have unlimited NIL!
Have his wife's tits been posted on the new Woopig yet?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 08, 2025, 08:22 AMHave his wife's tits been posted on the new Woopig yet?
Sarah Sanders appointed her to the state library board :rofl:
Quote from: HTL on Oct 08, 2025, 08:28 AMSarah Sanders appointed her to the state library board :rofl:
I forgot all about that
Quote from: buff2.0 on Aug 10, 2024, 09:26 AMWe've all seen her tits, and she's on the State Library Board?
Quote from: HTL on Oct 08, 2025, 08:28 AMSarah Sanders appointed her to the state library board :rofl:
Did they put her in charge of the coloring books or the adult magazines?
I wonder why Joey McGuire is never mentioned to fill a head coach position? He has Arkansas ties.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 08, 2025, 01:21 PMI wonder why Joey McGuire is never mentioned to fill a head coach position? He has Arkansas ties.
Because Tech loves him and they have a billionaire bankrolling his roster. He's not going anywhere.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 08, 2025, 01:30 PMBecause Tech loves him and they have a billionaire bankrolling his roster. He's not going anywhere.
That's narrow minded
He can 3 or 4 billionaires at Arkansas if they'd get off their asses.
South Florida and North Texas play each other Friday. 2 candidates going head to head.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 08, 2025, 02:40 PMSouth Florida and North Texas play each other Friday. 2 candidates going head to head.
Loser has to interview with Arkansas
Quote from: animal on Oct 08, 2025, 02:26 PMThat's narrow minded
He can 3 or 4 billionaires at Arkansas if they'd get off their asses.
Yet we can't seem to get any of them to donate to football like like they do for basketball.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 08, 2025, 03:19 PMLoser has to interview with Arkansas
:maundoed:
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 08, 2025, 04:02 PMYet we can't seem to get any of them to donate to football like like they do for basketball.
We hire good to great coaches for basketball.
We hire halfwits (at best) to run football.
Those people (or their parents) didn't become billionaires by throwing good money after bad.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 08, 2025, 05:15 PMWe hire good to great coaches for basketball.
We hire halfwits (at best) to run football.
Those people (or their parents) didn't become billionaires by throwing good money after bad.
One problem we have to face is I suspect we have a relatively small alumni base. When I was in school in Fayetteville, we had about 11,000 students. Texas (an I suspect TAMU) already had 30k. A few years later, they each had 50k and we maybe had 22-24k. They pumped out hundreds of thousands of alums that we didn't. Odds are that some of them did well and are generous.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 08, 2025, 05:15 PMWe hire good to great coaches for basketball.
We hire halfwits (at best) to run football.
Those people (or their parents) didn't become billionaires by throwing good money after bad.
I completely agree. I was just pointing out that McGuire already has the support at TT and he's winning with it this year so he has no reason to leave for Arkansas.
McGuire ain't going anywhere. They're gonna have to run him out.
They will probably run McGuire out if they somehow don't make the playoff.
Texas Tech has had a pretty easy time of it so far.
UAPB (2-3)
Kent State (1-4)
Oregon State (0-6)
Utah (4-1)
Houston (4-1)
It is way too early to be sucking off their big NIL dick.
7 of the top 8 spenders in the transfer portal are in the top 10.
How many of those 7 are normally in the top 10-15 rankings every year?
Don't remember all the teams listed but recall TT, Mizz, OM, Oregon, and Miami.
TX was the only one not in the top 10.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 08, 2025, 06:56 PMOne problem we have to face is I suspect we have a relatively small alumni base. When I was in school in Fayetteville, we had about 11,000 students. Texas (an I suspect TAMU) already had 30k. A few years later, they each had 50k and we maybe had 22-24k. They pumped out hundreds of thousands of alums that we didn't. Odds are that some of them did well and are generous.
That is definitely a disadvantage against the Texas schools and many football powerhouses.
It shouldn't be one against the Mississipi schools, or most of the smaller SEC universities for that matter.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 08, 2025, 03:19 PMLoser has to interview with Arkansas
;D
Tulane (Sumrall) & E. Carolina play tonight.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 09, 2025, 02:02 AMThat is definitely a disadvantage against the Texas schools and many football powerhouses.
It shouldn't be one against the Mississipi schools, or most of the smaller SEC universities for that matter.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/TGKHJbUOVb6VPVnVGYKUJ1mKj
The difference is not nearly as great as I thought. By the way, Grok is pretty cool
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 09, 2025, 08:14 AMhttps://x.com/i/grok/share/TGKHJbUOVb6VPVnVGYKUJ1mKj
The difference is not nearly as great as I thought. By the way, Grok is pretty cool
I always assumed those SEC schools had a massive advantage in enrollment size too. Figured they were closer to UT/aTm than us. I can remember back in the late 80s when I was mulling over college choices the UA had 13,000 while Texas and A&M were at or above 50K.
If Texas, aTm, Michigan and Ohio State stopped graduating kids today we'd still probably never catch up in numbers of alumni.
You would think Georgia, with the presence of a major metro less than an hour away (in light traffic), would be a lot bigger than it is. They are ultra selective for in-state students though, which benefits Auburn and probably Tennessee and Alabama much the same way that the top 10% rule in Texas helps Arkansas gain enrollment. Lots of pretty good students end up going out of state after being denied admission to UGA.
The advantage SEC schools have is the majority of their fans never went to school there. ( excluding Vandy). I went to Rhodes college in Memphis. No one gave a shit about their D3 team; they were fans of what they grew up with, so it was mostly Tennessee, ole Miss, hogs, Texas, etc.
And I figure if they were going to spend on nil it would be on those teams not Rhodes. I think it's similar at directional schools etc.
This phenomena only happens with a few schools elsewhere, like Nebraska or Iowa. It's something ADs from elsewhere don't really understand, yet the book on how to maximize it was written by JFB.
Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 09, 2025, 09:34 AMThe advantage SEC schools have is the majority of their fans never went to school there. ( excluding Vandy). I went to Rhodes college in Memphis. No one gave a shit about their D3 team; they were fans of what they grew up with, so it was mostly Tennessee, ole Miss, hogs, Texas, etc.
And I figure if they were going to spend on nil it would be on those teams not Rhodes. I think it's similar at directional schools etc.
This phenomena only happens with a few schools elsewhere, like Nebraska or Iowa. It's something ADs from elsewhere don't really understand, yet the book on how to maximize it was written by JFB.
It definitely happens at Ohio State. From what I've seen probably 85-90% of their fans have never set foot on a college campus.
Not sure I am impressed with Sumrall's clock management. They scored a touchdown and left thirty five seconds for ECU. Could have easily run the clock out and kicked a point blank field goal.
Sumrall, etc...who knows if they're the next Cignetti or the next Napier.
https://x.com/benkercheval/status/1977027009223315584?
Morris has certainly improved things at UNT
Golesh coached himself out of an interview opportunity at the YOU of A
Was thinking about this today while watching Mizzou hold its own against Bama.
When faced with a decision between coaches, we have quite literally *always* made the wrong decision throughout our history.
Hatfield over Johnson
Nutt over Tuberville
Bert over Gus
Morris over Cornrows
Pittman over Drink or Lane (dubious he was ever coming, but still)
So what is there to lead me to believe we'll make the right choice this time?
Quote from: Feral on Oct 11, 2025, 11:30 AMWas thinking about this today while watching Mizzou hold its own against Bama.
When faced with a decision between coaches, we have quite literally *always* made the wrong decision throughout our history.
Hatfield over Johnson
Nutt over Tuberville
Bert over Gus
Morris over Cornrows
Pittman over Drink or Lane (dubious he was ever coming, but still)
So what is there to lead me to believe we'll make the right choice this time?
I know first hand that Lane was coming to the highest bidder. We offered, Ole Miss countered, he came back to us and we said no. At the time fans were adamant that they were done with these huge buyouts and Hunter listened. I don't fault Hunter for hiring Sam, I fault Hunter for listening to the fans.
Quote from: CardHog on Oct 11, 2025, 11:35 AMI know first hand that Lane was coming to the highest bidder. We offered, Ole Miss countered, he came back to us and we said no. At the time fans were adamant that they were done with these huge buyouts and Hunter listened. I don't fault Hunter for hiring Sam, I fault Hunter for listening to the fans.
Save some blame for Sexton. Ole Miss didn't have an opening until his fat ass floated the possibility of delivering Kiffin to them (and more importantly to their older boosters, away from us).
Quote from: CardHog on Oct 11, 2025, 11:35 AMI know first hand that Lane was coming to the highest bidder. We offered, Ole Miss countered, he came back to us and we said no. At the time fans were adamant that they were done with these huge buyouts and Hunter listened. I don't fault Hunter for hiring Sam, I fault Hunter for listening to the fans.
Those same fans would have rejoiced the moment Lane was hired, insane salary or no.
Fans, especially our fans, are fickle and stupid.
Does last night's game make golesh the number one guy not named Petrino?
I spoke Golesh before. who knows? But he seems to be a workable.solution.
Wazzu's special teams and defense is giving their offense a chance on the road against #4.
That's all you can ask for in this situation is a chance and they did their job. Impressive. Maybe some of that is ole miss completely believing they're the shit and overlooked them.
Shit wrong thread, but if wazzu's defense and social teams play like this all the time, go get em.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 11, 2025, 12:58 PMDoes last night's game make golesh the number one guy not named Petrino?
I would think we would have a pretty good upper hand given that his wife is from the area. If not for that, I think he sounds like a guy that would flirt with us but end up at Florida state/florida/auburn. Doubt he's the usf coach next year. He's going to be a lot of teams top 5.
Mullen got another win tonight to get to 6-0.
Scroll through X this morning and it's like someone paid all the Razorback fans to ridicule the thought of hiring anyone other than James Franklin.
The Razorback way to keep a coach everyone knew was going to get fired in a year or so anyway last year when would have been one of if not the best opening in the country. Then fire him a year later when there going to upwards of a dozen openings of similar or better stature across the country.
If we are not careful we're going to find ourselves in the position that even BP has multiple options never mind any of these other guys people are talking about.
I am behind Petrino.
In 2 weeks this team added effort and respect.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 13, 2025, 04:50 AMThe Razorback way to keep a coach everyone knew was going to get fired in a year or so anyway last year when would have been one of if not the best opening in the country. Then fire him a year later when there going to upwards of a dozen openings of similar or better stature across the country.
If we are not careful we're going to find ourselves in the position that even BP has multiple options never mind any of these other guys people are talking about.
That's exactly right. Yuracheck should go ahead and lock in petrino for a below-market contract. Petrino will be as good, on average, as anyone else we would hire.
Quote from: DIKFORE on Oct 13, 2025, 07:04 AMThat's exactly right. Yuracheck should go ahead and lock in petrino for a below-market contract. Petrino will be as good, on average, as anyone else we would hire.
Did they ever announce if Petrino got a pay bump or if he's doing this year on his OC pay?
I don't want anyone but Bobby. I want to see him and Cal retire at Arkansas. There aren't 5 better x and o guys in the whole country, college or pro.
Petrino and Cal.
Give Bobby the money, the man has unfinished business here.
Not only is he the best actual coach, he has the drive to right his past wrongs.
Is there anyone who thinks BP can't deliver at least a three or four eight win seasons out of five? I personally think he can do better but even Sam could have done that if he could have won half of his one score games. I think BP won't have any trouble with that at all and unlike a lot of our candidates he knows EXACTLY the state of the program and EXACTLY what it takes.
Is there theoretically another Saban out there who could deliver Arkansas to undreamed heights? Yeah, sure but you have to identify him AND hire him. Odds of that are pretty small. We have a solid double or maybe even triple on staff and we don't need to lose him trying to hit a grand slam.
At present, I'm in the BP camp unless we're grabbing Cignetti. Though, I am also waiting to see if BP can deliver with THIS team. If he can right that ship throughout the remainder of the season, then he certainly still has it! That's a helluva handicap to come back from.
That said, it will boil down to money. If the money people aren't willing to back BP, then we will have to move on.
Quote from: passed on Oct 13, 2025, 08:34 AMAt present, I'm in the BP camp unless we're grabbing Cignetti. Though, I am also waiting to see if BP can deliver with THIS team. If he can right that ship throughout the remainder of the season, then he certainly still has it! That's a helluva handicap to come back from.
That said, it will boil down to money. If the money people aren't willing to back BP, then we will have to move on.
I personally will move on too.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 13, 2025, 08:39 AMI personally will move on too.
That just made Yurachek's decision!
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 13, 2025, 04:39 AMScroll through X this morning and it's like someone paid all the Razorback fans to ridicule the thought of hiring anyone other than James Franklin.
That horrific Vandy rape case makes him untouchable to me. I don't care what anyone says.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 13, 2025, 01:16 PMThat just made Yurachek's decision!
You are such a fag.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 13, 2025, 02:05 PM+1! Great post!
You just make it so easy to prove other's posts.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 13, 2025, 02:29 PMYou just make it so easy to prove other's posts.
Beat it unless you've got something to add related to the next coach.
It would be so "Arkansas" to hire a guy who just got a $56 million buyout who decided "fuck it" after the slightest hardship.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 13, 2025, 02:38 PMIt would be so "Arkansas" to hire a guy who just got a $56 million buyout who decided "fuck it" after the slightest hardship.
We sound like the perfect job for one of these guys that has to mitigate their buyout.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 13, 2025, 02:51 PMWe sound like the perfect job for one of these guys that has to mitigate their buyout.
but why do we want someone who is looking to "mitigate their buyout"? I mean there is a reason they are being bought out.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 13, 2025, 03:58 PMbut why do we want someone who is looking to "mitigate their buyout"? I mean there is a reason they are being bought out.
Because our fan base is stupid enough to love that
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 13, 2025, 04:01 PMBecause our fan base is stupid enough to love that
Exactly
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/report-says-that-unlv-rebels-head-coach-dan-mullen-wants-arkansas-razorbacks-job-so-bad/ar-AA1OBF2f?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68f12be5dcf244fe968d076c56c013f2&ei=32
saw this on my msn browser feed
Quote from: egregious on Oct 16, 2025, 02:41 PMhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/report-says-that-unlv-rebels-head-coach-dan-mullen-wants-arkansas-razorbacks-job-so-bad/ar-AA1OBF2f?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68f12be5dcf244fe968d076c56c013f2&ei=32
saw this on my msn browser feed
Geez, imagine quoting Mike Irwin as your go to in writing that article.
If the best you can do is Dan Mullen then just hire BP today.
Not that we had a chance at him but Cignetti just got extended. 8 yr/92 mil.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 13, 2025, 02:51 PMWe sound like the perfect job for one of these guys that has to mitigate their buyout.
Pretty sure that he would have to be paid market value or Penn state would have a fit
Quote from: dhog on Oct 16, 2025, 03:04 PMGeez, imagine quoting Mike Irwin as your go to in writing that article.
lol, exactly. and what coach nowadays says "hey, i don't need nil". hell, who would want a coach that said that.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 16, 2025, 04:26 PMlol, exactly. and what coach nowadays says "hey, i don't need nil". hell, who would want a coach that said that.
Yep, lots of WTF in that article. Irwin is just throwing crap against the wall hoping something sticks that he can take credit for.
Quote from: Hognrock on Oct 16, 2025, 03:54 PMNot that we had a chance at him but Cignetti just got extended. 8 yr/92 mil.
Fuck!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 16, 2025, 03:52 PMIf the best you can do is Dan Mullen then just hire BP today.
Coming from the guy that thought we'd win 10 games this year with Pitt. I mean I don't hate BP,actually a pretty big fan, but I don't think Mullen is chopped liver, either. I'd just like to see BP finish the season strong before I really cast my vote here. I think Mullen would be a strong hire, too. There is a decent age gap there. Neither are wet behind the ears or one foot in, but Mullen would give a little more run if he worked out.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 16, 2025, 10:27 PMComing from the guy that thought we'd win 10 games this year with Pitt. I mean I don't hate BP,actually a pretty big fan, but I don't think Mullen is chopped liver, either. I'd just like to see BP finish the season strong before I really cast my vote here. I think Mullen would be a strong hire, too. There is a decent age gap there. Neither are wet behind the ears or one foot in, but Mullen would give a little more run if he worked out.
You keep referencing the 10 win prediction like it's some type of burn. I have already admitted I was wrong. Let it go.
My point is Mullen isn't any better (or worse) than BP. If Mullen is the guy you go after then just hire BP and put the entire search to bed. You can do that now and start building next years team vs waiting until January to hit Mullen.
If Petrino doesn't do enough to win the job then I want someone younger (hungrier) like Sumrall or Golesh.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 17, 2025, 06:28 AMYou keep referencing the 10 win prediction like it's some type of burn. I have already admitted I was wrong. Let it go.
My point is Mullen isn't any better (or worse) than BP. If Mullen is the guy you go after then just hire BP and put the entire search to bed. You can do that now and start building next years team vs waiting until January to hit Mullen.
Not to mention that Mullen is going to likely win 10+ this year at UNLV, and will as such likely command a salary north of $7MM at his next stop. I'm not in favor of hiring anyone because they will work more cheaply...if we can spend $10MM plus and get a whale by all means do it.
But if we're down to the Mullen tier it makes more sense to hire BP at 50-60% of what Mullen would cost, and invest the difference in either assistant salaries or NIL. Or even better...take the difference and build a new parking lot for the women's soccer team or something.
what makes people think we can hire bp for 50% less than other potential candidates? it makes no sense because the market sets that.
if he can get this season turned around and show he's still one of the best out there, i seriously doubt he's going to do it for some huge "loves arkansas" discount.
the whole salary thing some trip over i can't wrap my head around. unless you're getting calls from the people who are making the hire, what difference does it make? the state can only pay him so much and the rest is going to be booster money.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 17, 2025, 08:11 AMOr even better...take the difference and build a new parking lot for the women's soccer team or something.
Cup holders at Baum!! Make Doc happy!!
https://x.com/CoachDanMullen/status/1979301201985573311
0.0? Don't tease us, Dan! Give it to us straight!
lol. that dude needs to call it day. he's a dinosaur.
and no way merlins is going to say anything but that halfway thru the season. solid troll with the mahlzan comeback.
For some reason I like him more now than I did before.
I know now for sure it won't be Mullen.
Ferret top if you notice is the only one sprouting it. He's the useful fool they keep around to be a distraction but he's as much a mushroom as anyone. He's on pedestal because he's a fossil.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 17, 2025, 09:07 AMwhat makes people think we can hire bp for 50% less than other potential candidates? it makes no sense because the market sets that.
if he can get this season turned around and show he's still one of the best out there, i seriously doubt he's going to do it for some huge "loves arkansas" discount.
the whole salary thing some trip over i can't wrap my head around. unless you're getting calls from the people who are making the hire, what difference does it make? the state can only pay him so much and the rest is going to be booster money.
I don't think there would be a "love Arkansas" discount but we would undoubtedly get him cheaper because there's no market for him. I doubt we would pay him any more than we were paying Pittman, and maybe not even that much.
I love Bobby P but I worry his time has passed.
I'd go get James Franklin. He gets $50 million regardless of the amount you pay him. The amount you pay him just offsets some of the money that Pedo State U has to pay him.
He had a team one 2 minute drive away from playing for a natty and got fired 9 months later.
That dude has an axe to grind now.
He can recruit and coach.
He has no hobbies.
He's a football coach.
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 18, 2025, 10:21 AMI love Bobby P but I worry his time has passed.
I'd go get James Franklin. He gets $50 million regardless of the amount you pay him. The amount you pay him just offsets some of the money that Pedo State U has to pay him.
He had a team one 2 minute drive away from playing for a natty and got fired 9 months later.
That dude has an axe to grind now.
He can recruit and coach.
He has no hobbies.
He's a football coach.
And he gave a great interview on Gameday.
I'd take him.
It will surprise me if he goes somewhere other than back to the SEC.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 18, 2025, 11:53 AMAnd he gave a great interview on Gameday.
I'd take him.
It will surprise me if he goes somewhere other than back to the SEC.
https://x.com/espn/status/1979570658632716666
Anyone still think our next coach isn't coaching the team right now?
We need a Next Defensive Coordinator thread more than this one.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 18, 2025, 07:21 PMAnyone still think our next coach isn't coaching the team right now?
I'm all in for BMFP.
We've gone toe to toe with the #12 and #4 teams in the country in back to back weeks after losing to Memphis and getting shellacked against Notre Dame.
We have a chance to right the ship against Auburn and State.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 18, 2025, 07:38 PMI'm all in for BMFP.
We've gone toe to toe with the #12 and #4 teams in the country in back to back weeks after losing to Memphis and getting shellacked against Notre Dame.
We have a chance to right the ship against Auburn and State.
LSU is reeling.
Texas is beatable.
We're getting the toughest two teams left in the first two weeks of Bobby 2.0. If he can keep the team from giving up, we have a legit chance to make a bowl, even with a defense thats about as worthless a screen door on a battleship.
With a year of petrino'a recruits, strength and conditioning, and schemes then these will be wins not losses.
We are playing like a real football team. Give Bobby the job and go pay for some players.
Think Sam is sitting at home telling Jamie, "Well hell. I was doing that."
Quote from: Hizog on Oct 18, 2025, 08:08 PMWe are playing like a real football team.
Half of the team is playing like a real SEC football team. The other half is playing like a real Hasbro football team.
Quote from: Hizog on Oct 18, 2025, 08:08 PMWe are playing like a real football team. Give Bobby the job and go pay for some players.
This right here
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 18, 2025, 08:09 PMThink Sam is sitting at home telling Jamie, "Well hell. I was doing that."
Of course he is.
And I know you're joking.
But the last two games would've been about 48-17 from 34-17 and 59-27 from 38-27.
Put me down for a membership in the NIL collective if we hire Bobby Petrino.
He's the man for the job.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 18, 2025, 08:18 PMThis right here
We have enough offense to win.
We are missing a couple Tony Bua/Jeb Hojabea/Carlos Hall types. The defense is playing better just two weeks in, but they aren't "good".
BMFP is still the man. Give that motherfucker the job and let him cook.
We gonna be pissed if Bobby keeps showing improvement, wins a couple of games, and we still hire Lashlee or something.
Quote from: aaron on Oct 18, 2025, 09:20 PMWe gonna be pissed if Bobby keeps showing improvement, wins a couple of games, and we still hire Lashlee or something.
That's what I am afraid of. Hopefully they see all we need is a competent DC and players.
Quote from: aaron on Oct 18, 2025, 09:20 PMWe gonna be pissed if Bobby keeps showing improvement, wins a couple of games, and we still hire Lashlee or something.
I won't be mad. I also won't be a fan.
Quote from: aaron on Oct 18, 2025, 09:20 PMWe gonna be pissed if Bobby keeps showing improvement, wins a couple of games, and we still hire Lashlee or something.
I'll be done. Bobby or bust.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 18, 2025, 09:24 PMI won't be mad. I also won't be a fan.
Also this.
Alex Mortensen who Biggus said was the slickest passer we've seen around these parts since Joe Ferguson beats Memphis.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 18, 2025, 09:33 PMAlex Mortensen who Biggus said was the slickest passer we've seen around these parts since Joe Ferguson beats Memphis.
This is very old news.
Quote from: aaron on Oct 18, 2025, 09:20 PMWe gonna be pissed if Bobby keeps showing improvement, wins a couple of games, and we still hire Lashlee or something.
Lashlee just beat Clemson to move to 5-2. He's probably coached himself out of our job anyway. With their remaining schedule they could win 8 or 9.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 18, 2025, 09:42 PMI bet you're fun at parties.
I bet nobody invites you to parties.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 18, 2025, 09:51 PMI bet nobody invites you to parties.
I wish that were the case.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 18, 2025, 09:52 PMI wish that were the case.
Don't be sad. Maybe someone will some day.
Worth noting: tonight was Bobby's first home loss since September 2010.
Not many can say they haven't lost a home game in 15 years.
Petrino makes the most sense. Give it to him.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 18, 2025, 09:41 PMLashlee just beat Clemson to move to 5-2. He's probably coached himself out of our job anyway. With their remaining schedule they could win 8 or 9.
Good
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 18, 2025, 11:24 PMWorth noting: tonight was Bobby's first home loss since September 2010.
Not many can say they haven't lost a home game in 15 years.
You left off the "@Arkansas" part
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 20, 2025, 07:12 AMMissouri St
Heck, it's not even his first loss in RRS since then.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 20, 2025, 07:12 AMYou left off the "@Arkansas" part
Arkansas is "home" in that context.
The RV salesman duckman says it's Gruden again from his big money sources. Some people have no shame.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 18, 2025, 11:24 PMWorth noting: tonight was Bobby's first home loss since September 2010.
Not many can say they haven't lost a home game in 15 years.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 20, 2025, 10:01 AMArkansas is "home" in that context.
His last AT HOME loss was in 2022 while coaching Missouri St.
His last AT HOME loss (prior to this past weekend) while coaching Arkansas was in 2010.
Don't worry
@bigpig. All but one of us knew what you meant and didn't get hung up on semantics.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 20, 2025, 10:19 AMThe RV salesman duckman says it's Gruden again from his big money sources. Some people have no shame.
Is he willing to put his wife's tits up as collateral again? I ain't hatin'.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 20, 2025, 10:39 AMDon't worry @bigpig. All but one of us knew what you meant and didn't get hung up on semantics.
thank you. Some people are allergic to a simple joke.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 20, 2025, 10:39 AMDon't worry @bigpig. All but one of us knew what you meant and didn't get hung up on semantics.
Chortle.
Quote from: Guardrail on Oct 20, 2025, 10:40 AMIs he willing to put his wife's tits up as collateral again? I ain't hatin'.
I have an old laptop somewhere that has them. I just need to clean the carburetor and I can probably get it started. I know I emailed them to Rev years ago
Is that the bathtub pic? Seems like I remember sparkly titties.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Oct 20, 2025, 11:03 AMIs that the bathtub pic? Seems like I remember sparkly titties.
Yes. Roses or some shit floating around.
Hogville is a higher concentration of retards than even LinkedIn.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 20, 2025, 11:09 AMHogville is a higher concentration of retards than even LinkedIn.
Any time I venture over there, it reminds me of walking into a kindergarten class where the teacher is completely out of her element. Kids running wild, screaming, eating glue. Every yokle and drive-time-sports moron is posting every minute, creating new threads for all of their inane opinons.
Woopig's true official mantra is not "wear a cup." It's "RMPL" and we are all the better for it.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 20, 2025, 11:20 AMAny time I venture over there, it reminds me of walking into a kindergarten class where the teacher is completely out of her element. Kids running wild, screaming, eating glue. Every yokle and drive-time-sports moron is posting every minute, creating new threads for all of their inane opinons.
Woopig's true official mantra is not "wear a cup." It's "RMPL" and we are all the better for it.
Nobville always reminds me of thanksgiving with the wife's side of the family.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 20, 2025, 11:20 AMAny time I venture over there, it reminds me of walking into a kindergarten class where the teacher is completely out of her element. Kids running wild, screaming, eating glue. Every yokle and drive-time-sports moron is posting every minute, creating new threads for all of their inane opinons.
Woopig's true official mantra is not "wear a cup." It's "RMPL" and we are all the better for it.
I went with some friends to a bar one Friday night before a home game about 12 years ago. There happened to be a large Nobville gathering there. It was EXACTLY as you would imagine.
Quote from: aaron on Oct 20, 2025, 11:48 AMI went with some friends to a bar one Friday night before a home game about 12 years ago. There happened to be a large Nobville gathering there. It was EXACTLY as you would imagine.
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nobville.webp
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 20, 2025, 12:37 PM?
nobville.webp
i hate fucking degens from up country
Quote from: Guardrail on Oct 20, 2025, 10:40 AMIs he willing to put his wife's tits up as collateral again? I ain't hatin'.
Just remember, we are more than few years down the line on them. They may not be exactly in the same shape.
Quote from: jethro on Oct 20, 2025, 02:08 PMJust remember, we are more than few years down the line on them. They may not be exactly in the same shape.
She's probably on her second pair by now.
Quote from: jethro on Oct 20, 2025, 02:08 PMJust remember, we are more than few years down the line on them. They may not be exactly in the same shape.
I would think any chick that allows her husband to post her tits on Woopig is making sure she keeps those things rotated and balanced - regardless of age.
Quote from: RPL on Oct 20, 2025, 02:37 PMShe's probably on her second pair by now.
Or this.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 20, 2025, 02:44 PMI would think any chick that allows her husband to post her tits on Woopig is making sure she keeps those things rotated and balanced - regardless of age.
She got the Michelins
Quote from: jethro on Oct 20, 2025, 02:08 PMJust remember, we are more than few years down the line on them. They may not be exactly in the same shape.
From my recollection, it didn't exactly appear she had employed the Michelangelo of plastic surgeons in the first place.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 20, 2025, 08:14 PMFrom my recollection, it didn't exactly appear she had employed the Michelangelo of plastic surgeons in the first place.
That's what I thought. Not pretty at all.
But to quote the great cinematic master piece, My Chauffeur,"There ain't no such thing as a bad titty."
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 20, 2025, 10:51 AMI have an old laptop somewhere that has them. I just need to clean the carburetor and I can probably get it started. I know I emailed them to Rev years ago
I probably still have them somewhere, also on an old laptop
I hate to interrupt this plastic surgery thread, but let's get back on track.
I'd like to know who are the legit DC options for Petrino. Please don't say Muschump. Or Kevin Steele.
Dj durkin
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PMI hate to interrupt this plastic surgery thread, but let's get back on track.
I'd like to know who are the legit DC options for Petrino. Please don't say Muschump. Or Kevin Steele.
Mel Tucker :D
Willie Robinson
Keith "Code Red" Burns
Reggie Herring
Coach O
Because Arkansas.
OK, don't say anyone who has ever been on staff here either.
I'd take Durkin in a heartbeat.
The guy at Penn State who came from Ohio State, he'll need a home. Knowles, I think his name is.
Durkin and Petrino worked together under Jimbo. Wonder what their relationship is like.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 21, 2025, 07:37 PMDj durkin
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2024/01/30/dj-durkin-auburn-football-defensive-coordinator-maryland-jordan-mcnair-florida/72316786007/
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 21, 2025, 08:09 PMOK, don't say anyone who has ever been on staff here either.
I'd take Durkin in a heartbeat.
The guy at Penn State who came from Ohio State, he'll need a home. Knowles, I think his name is.
Jim Knowles, pot chef from Oklahoma State to Ohio State to Penn State. He is the highest paid coordinator in cfb $3 million per.
https://nittanysportsnow.com/2025/10/golik-how-jim-knowles-broke-the-heart-of-the-penn-state-defense/
I bet he keeps Wilson.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PMI hate to interrupt this plastic surgery thread, but let's get back on track.
I'd like to know who are the legit DC options for Petrino. Please don't say Muschump. Or Kevin Steele.
It would be third and Grantham.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 20, 2025, 10:19 AMThe RV salesman duckman says it's Gruden again from his big money sources. Some people have no shame.
Some dipshit boomer 65 year old showed me a pic of Gruden on his phone at the stadium and said "you know who our next coach is gonna be?"
It's getting where the senility is nearly cute.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 21, 2025, 07:37 PMDj durkin
My #1 as well.
He's on board a sinking ship so maybe he's looking for an exit strat, unless he thinks Auburn will give him a real shot at the HC gig once they finally shit can Freeze.
Reportedly players love playing for him, so maybe we also land a few much needed transfers on that side of the ball in the deal.
Quote from: TC on Oct 21, 2025, 10:14 PMMy #1 as well.
He's on board a sinking ship so maybe he's looking for an exit strat, unless he thinks Auburn will give him a real shot at the HC gig once they finally shit can Freeze.
Reportedly players love playing for him, so maybe we also land a few much needed transfers on that side of the ball in the deal.
Thirded, or fourthed, or whatever.
He's probably still too toxic to get a head coaching job too.
You see how some people are still freaking out about rehiring the guy who had an affair and violated some HR policies. Wait 'til they find out that our next DC killed a kid.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PMI hate to interrupt this plastic surgery thread, but let's get back on track.
I'd like to know who are the legit DC options for Petrino. Please don't say Muschump. Or Kevin Steele.
Biddy mentioned the DC at FSU. Not specifically to work for Bobby but that he was a good coach and had some connection to Arkansas.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 22, 2025, 07:54 AMThirded, or fourthed, or whatever.
He's probably still too toxic to get a head coaching job too.
You see how some people are still freaking out about rehiring the guy who had an affair and violated some HR policies. Wait 'til they find out that our next DC killed a kid.
The addition by subtraction in our fan base would save the program.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 22, 2025, 08:26 AMThe addition by subtraction in our fan base would save the program.
The donors we would lose would cost the program tens of dollars. Maybe even dozens.
Even more than all those lawsuits we lost back in 2012.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 22, 2025, 08:33 AMThe donors we would lose would cost the program tens of dollars. Maybe even dozens.
Even more than all those lawsuits we lost back in 2012.
LISTEN, MISTER! All those lawsuits went away because we are the University of Integrity!
Quote from: RPL on Oct 22, 2025, 01:41 PMLISTEN, MISTER! All those lawsuits went away because we are the University of Integrity!
Yeah, Integrity went a Long way!
Quote from: RPL on Oct 22, 2025, 01:41 PMLISTEN, MISTER! All those lawsuits went away because we are the University of Integrity!
Guess he never heard of statues of liberations.
Keep this here...
Gus is in NWA (well at least Ft Smith) this week.
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Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 22, 2025, 06:03 PMKeep this here...
Gus is in NWA (well at least Ft Smith) this week.
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awwwwww sheeeeit
(https://media.tenor.com/tH3KNaPpYc0AAAAC/cosmo-kramer-seinfeld.gif)
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 22, 2025, 06:03 PMKeep this here...
Gus is in NWA (well at least Ft Smith) this week.
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And there's a Razorback right over his head. You know that's a sign!
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 23, 2025, 09:14 AMAnd there's a Razorback right over his head. You know that's a sign!
I hope it was taking a dump in his food.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 23, 2025, 09:14 AMAnd there's a Razorback right over his head. You know that's a sign!
It's popcorn hog, so that's a bad sign.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 23, 2025, 09:53 AMIt's popcorn hog, so that's a bad sign.
That is not the popcorn hog. That hog goes back to the seventies or eighties. That one looks cool. The "popcorn hog" debuted in 2000 and looks like shit.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 23, 2025, 10:32 AMThat is not the popcorn hog. That hog goes back to the seventies or eighties. That one looks cool. The "popcorn hog" debuted in 2000 and looks like shit.
I agree the shape of the hog is cool, but someone added the popcorn, which is not cool.
Hogs-through-the-years-1216212338.jpg
popcorn hog is what I associate with the Nutt years. Same with the front-facing hog = Bert years.
The current helmet logo is perfect, but I also love the 1955 and 1967 versions too. Beyond that, sweater vest, jumping through the A, and the slobber hog are all great variants.
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 22, 2025, 06:03 PMKeep this here...
Gus is in NWA (well at least Ft Smith) this week.
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What is this particular establishment?
Everyday Petrino is not named head coach is a lost day of recruiting.
Lot of teams needing a coach this season and Yurachek needs to get this locked up.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 23, 2025, 11:12 AMpopcorn hog is what I associate with the Nutt years. Same with the front-facing hog = Bert years.
The current helmet logo is perfect, but I also love the 1955 and 1967 versions too. Beyond that, sweater vest, jumping through the A, and the slobber hog are all great variants.
The Jumping through the A is my favorite because I associate that one with the '94 National Championship. They used that logo for everything.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 23, 2025, 01:25 PMThe Jumping through the A is my favorite because I associate that one with the '94 National Championship. They used that logo for everything.
Not sure the years are accurate, but in that image, the 55-63 hog is the best logo we've ever had.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Oct 23, 2025, 12:58 PMEveryday Petrino is not named head coach is a lost day of recruiting.
Lot of teams needing a coach this season and Yurachek needs to get this locked up.
I really think Yurachek needs a Petrino W to hang his hat on with all the people who need to buy in. Literally buy in.
Let's hope it comes Saturday.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 23, 2025, 01:30 PMNot sure the years are accurate, but in that image, the 55-63 hog is the best logo we've ever had.
That is my favorite too. A close second is the 38-46 logo.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 23, 2025, 01:30 PMNot sure the years are accurate, but in that image, the 55-63 hog is the best logo we've ever had.
100%
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 23, 2025, 01:30 PMNot sure the years are accurate, but in that image, the 55-63 hog is the best logo we've ever had.
AKA Skeptical Hog
Skepticalhog.mp4
the 1931 hog looks like he's on crack
I bought this for my wife several years ago. A necklace that she has gotten a lot of notice for.
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Quote from: PHARMHOG on Oct 23, 2025, 12:58 PMEveryday Petrino is not named head coach is a lost day of recruiting.
Lot of teams needing a coach this season and Yurachek needs to get this locked up.
Just because we had the first-mover advantage doesn't mean we need to take advantage of it or anything.
55-63 Hog is permanently on my left shoulder. The best in my opinion.
'64-'66 are missing from that chart
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 23, 2025, 02:47 PMthe 1931 hog looks like he's on crack
It was a transition period. That's bathtub gin hog.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 23, 2025, 11:22 AMWhat is this particular establishment?
Appears to be Calico County
Quote from: Mahogany on Oct 23, 2025, 04:16 PMAppears to be Calico County
:thumb_up: We go up there to visit the kid and figured we had eaten at most of the tolerable places in town, and a few that weren't, but now we have a new one to try.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 23, 2025, 04:26 PM:thumb_up: We go up there to visit the kid and figured we had eaten at most of the tolerable places in town, and a few that weren't, but now we have a new one to try.
We got a Gus Hugger over here!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 23, 2025, 07:31 PMWe got a Gus Hugger over here!
Just trying to get a ride in the Jesuscopter.
Gus is wearing a North Carolina shirt. He's going to replace Belichick. :popcorn:
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 23, 2025, 07:36 PMJust trying to get a ride in the Jesuscopter.
Want some leftover Gus Catfish fillets? He started out with some bread and 3 fillets but there is more than enough left to feed a bunch of folks...
:D
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 24, 2025, 10:18 PMWant some leftover Gus Catfish fillets? He started out with some bread and 3 fillets but there is more than enough left to feed a bunch of folks...
:D
And he turned the water into tea.
You think it's Luzianne?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 24, 2025, 10:22 PMAnd he turned the water into tea.
You think it's Luzianne?
Decaffeinated, I suppose?
Forget Lashlee....
https://x.com/chrisvannini/status/1982171697919750317?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Please forget lashlee
I never considered Lashlee.
Hunter is wasting time and very day. We could hire Bobby and let him start preparing for next season, even if that means losing the rest of this one to get playing time for the players he wants to keep. Or, we could be reaching out to other serious prospects and trying to be the first open position to make our hire the day after the season ends. I don't think he's doing either.
I can't wait to get in (and lose) a bunch of bidding wars for guys like Sumrall and Golesh, etc
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 25, 2025, 03:25 PMI can't wait to get in (and lose) a bunch of bidding wars for guys like Sumrall and Golesh, etc
Sumrall was at the Collierville HS game Friday night. I think he has a verbal from their RB.
Go get golesh
I hope no one is expecting us to turn it around after hiring another coach. It will take years for that to happen. Whoever we hire, we are going to have to let them have several years to try and get a decent team. We had better be patient. But, I do expect to see improvement every year. If not, NEXT!
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 25, 2025, 03:37 PMI hope no one is expecting us to turn it around after hiring another coach. It will take years for that to happen. Whoever we hire, we are going to have to let them have several years to try and get a decent team. We had better be patient. But, I do expect to see improvement every year. If not, NEXT!
If a new coach brings significant backing in NIL, results can (and should) happen quick. Completely different days than when we've hired previous coaches.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 25, 2025, 03:19 PMI never considered Lashlee.
Hunter is wasting time and very day. We could hire Bobby and let him start preparing for next season, even if that means losing the rest of this one to get playing time for the players he wants to keep. Or, we could be reaching out to other serious prospects and trying to be the first open position to make our hire the day after the season ends. I don't think he's doing either.
The Pittman hiring showed that Yurachek is lazy.
He did the bare minimum despite having a few weeks head start, struck out with a few people, did little to no due diligence, and then simply allowed himself to get lobbied by a few former players from a shitty era into hiring a career position coach on the brink of retirement.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 25, 2025, 03:29 PMSumrall was at the Collierville HS game Friday night. I think he has a verbal from their RB.
Yep. Alex Collins doppelgänger is committed to them. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Sumrall and the RB
Quote from: Hognrock on Oct 25, 2025, 10:21 PMYep. Alex Collins doppelgänger is committed to them. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Sumrall and the RB
Same.
Sumrall isn't a name who's going to generate a ton of buzz in our braindead fan base, but he'd be a great hire.
Willie Fritz deserves a call but it won't happen.
Who do the money people want?
We know fletcher is backing Bobby.
The NWA money still want Lashlee after he had a bd loss loss at wake?
Does Tyson care about football?
Stephens?
If not Bobby, Ryan Silverfield.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 25, 2025, 10:51 PMIf not Bobby, Ryan Silverfield.
I just don't think he's a good fit. Idk why but I think he'd get chewed up in the sec.
I will say that I think he's a good guy, even moreso than Pittman. I wouldn't be pissed about him, but It would be more of the same. I think he would be an upgrade over Pittman but not to a large degree.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 25, 2025, 10:51 PMIf not Bobby, Ryan Silverfield.
If not Bobby then shut it all down because we have morons running the show.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 25, 2025, 10:26 PMSame.
Sumrall isn't a name who's going to generate a ton of buzz in our braindead fan base, but he'd be a great hire.
This year they got blown out by Ole Miss 45-10 and have played no one else.
In 2024 they got blown out by Oklahoma and Florida and lost to Kansas state by a TD. All other wins were against shitty teams.
Much the same in his two years at Troy. He has never fielded a team that beat anyone they were not supposed to or a big name school.
I know I'm brain dead but I don't see the evidence that supports the position that he would be a great hire.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 08:08 AMThis year they got blown out by Ole Miss 45-10 and have played no one else.
In 2024 they got blown out by Oklahoma and Florida and lost to Kansas state by a TD. All other wins were against shitty teams.
Much the same in his two years at Troy. He has never fielded a team that beat anyone they were not supposed to or a big name school.
I know I'm brain dead but I don't see the evidence that supports the position that he would be a great hire.
Do you really think we learned our lesson after hiring Chad over Cornrows?
Granted Cornrows has made the program-killing mistakes of bringing in DJU and then hiring Gus, but at Memphis he kicked Chad's SMU ass when they played.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 08:08 AMThis year they got blown out by Ole Miss 45-10 and have played no one else.
In 2024 they got blown out by Oklahoma and Florida and lost to Kansas state by a TD. All other wins were against shitty teams.
Much the same in his two years at Troy. He has never fielded a team that beat anyone they were not supposed to or a big name school.
I know I'm brain dead but I don't see the evidence that supports the position that he would be a great hire.
The biggest piece of evidence against Sumrall is that he hired and kept the same OC as Morris had here.
He's Sun Belt Billy 2.0. Pass.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 23, 2025, 10:54 AMI agree the shape of the hog is cool, but someone added the popcorn, which is not cool.
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so where's 64-66?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 25, 2025, 03:37 PMI hope no one is expecting us to turn it around after hiring another coach. It will take years for that to happen. Whoever we hire, we are going to have to let them have several years to try and get a decent team. We had better be patient. But, I do expect to see improvement every year. If not, NEXT!
That's old timey thinking. Teams change every year due to portal and nil now; a good coach can flip it fast. This requires a different coaching philosophy; the old reliance on growing freshmen for five years is dead.
Coaches have to let go of the old loyalties of playing seniors over better talent under them. Sam still lived that outdated paradigm; you play your best players as you might get fired otherwise.
With nil and portal no reason a new coach can't turn it around fast. Timing sucks as new portal date is before CFP. Stupid. Will CFP teams lose a shitton of players?
It points to advantages keeping bmfp but he needs to hurry and show something. If the defense gave up 45 to offense's 42, that's an issue. These q4 offensive collapses, lack of. 2nd half scoring, and all these turnovers point right at Bobby.
A lot of coaches people are mentioning mostly have decent teams right now. If you have a pretty good QB, a decent RB or two, and a workable OL/DL, you can win while coaching most teams. In our case, we have very little of those things. We have a decent RB, a QB that turns into a head case several times a game, and a pretty good receiving corps. However, I don't think there is a coach in the nation right now that could salvage our defense. As for the portal, what player in their right mind would want to come here if we don't have the NIL? What coach? We may end up with Bobby and that is fine with me. Maybe he can turn things around.....next year.
Preach
For better or worse, it seems like we need to flush the Bobby appetite out of our system. We don't hire him, the bmfp huggers (seems like the majority of at least average IQ fans) will still be salivating over Bobby and wishing he'd have gotten the chance to finish what he was building here before the yankee ousted him unjustly.
We hire him to a fair contract and give him decent enough tools to win, he has shown to have a blueprint for being successful here. If unsuccessful, the ship sails and it's easy to move on at this point and close the BP chapter.
It's kind of similar to bringing Mike back home. We just have to exorcise this demon.
Like SoS said, we have to commit to winning. Otherwise the only coach we get is going to be looking for a pay day. I want a coach to come in knowing he has everything in place to compete in the SEC.
Our state puts out very little SEC level talent. The kids that are SEC level are getting more money to go to out ofcstate schools. The biggest schools in surrounding states are all now in the SEC.
We have a significant disadvantage. Until that is fixed, we are who we are and no really good coach would take the job.
My criteria for hiring a coach goes as follows.
1. If you are going to hire a older guy...might as well hire Petrino who wants to be here and see how it goes.
2. If you are going to otherwise hire a "retread" don't hire these fucking guys that are only coming for free money. The ones that have already made millions are probably aren't overly "hungry" but just coming to collect pay.
3. Prefer head coaching experience and prefer a coach that had to build something making use of whatever resources he had...think guy that has done well at multiple levels.
4. Has to embrace the recent changes to college football...not pay it lip service. Someone who is willing to do whatever it takes to win.
5. Did he write a book? Yes...fuck him. No...can he read someone else's god damn book?
we can bitch about money, nil, etc. - but the bottom line is there is talent to be found out there - but it has to be identified which our staff has failed to do for the last 4 years and when they do identify it, it doesn't seem to be used. The Georgia approach is nice when you are Georgia, but Georgia we are not.
Vanderbilt has done it, Missouri has done it, we have not.
My goodness, they thought this defense could compete in the SEC. Who the hell is evaluating the recruits/transfers?
If you keep Petrino - what is his staff going to look like?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 26, 2025, 09:57 AMThe biggest piece of evidence against Sumrall is that he hired and kept the same OC as Morris had here.
He's Sun Belt Billy 2.0. Pass.
Billy is SwampChad. So would this make Sumrall be HillBilly?
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 25, 2025, 11:09 PMI just don't think he's a good fit. Idk why but I think he'd get chewed up in the sec.
I will say that I think he's a good guy, even moreso than Pittman. I wouldn't be pissed about him, but It would be more of the same. I think he would be an upgrade over Pittman but not to a large degree.
I don't get why he's not on the national radar more. Young, winning at Memphis, lots of job openings. I don't know anything about him other than his record.
East Arkansas folks that get Memphis channels probably know why. Fill me in.
Keep in mind, we're trying to hire a coach right after our AD said we didn't give the precious coach what he needed to win. Let that sync in.
Who wants to sign up for that?
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 11:31 AMFor better or worse, it seems like we need to flush the Bobby appetite out of our system. We don't hire him, the bmfp huggers (seems like the majority of at least average IQ fans) will still be salivating over Bobby and wishing he'd have gotten the chance to finish what he was building here before the yankee ousted him unjustly.
We hire him to a fair contract and give him decent enough tools to win, he has shown to have a blueprint for being successful here. If unsuccessful, the ship sails and it's easy to move on at this point and close the BP chapter.
It's kind of similar to bringing Mike back home. We just have to exorcise this demon.
This is exactly what I had said several times. If it isn't Petrino, we will continue to play the "what ifs" over and over in our heads, especially if we get another mediocre coach. We need to give Bobby 4 years and then we can all move on.
The NEXT coach is probably somewhere hiding from the ESPN cameras right now while he watches the Florida @ Arkansas women's volleyball match.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 26, 2025, 12:06 PMwe can bitch about money, nil, etc. - but the bottom line is there is talent to be found out there - but it has to be identified which our staff has failed to do for the last 4 years and when they do identify it, it doesn't seem to be used. The Georgia approach is nice when you are Georgia, but Georgia we are not.
Vanderbilt has done it, Missouri has done it, we have not.
My goodness, they thought this defense could compete in the SEC. Who the hell is evaluating the recruits/transfers?
If you keep Petrino - what is his staff going to look like?
Wasnt the take on BMFP 1.0 that he was an excellent talent evaluator and making 2 and 3 stars into legit 4-5 star type guys? Maybe he "missed" on Green, but Green has the physical tools to be the best QB in the SEC. Not sure why Bobby has had 3rd quarter woes this year, but overall our offense hasn't been the issue except for careless turnover issues. I suspect he's put a lot more time and effort into assisting the defensive staff over the past few weeks.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 12:40 PMKeep in mind, we're trying to hire a coach right after our AD said we didn't give the precious coach what he needed to win. Let that sync in.
Who wants to sign up for that?
the football program got 75% of the settlement money. that's all the school can do.
not defending yurachek, but he was talking about booster money. it had pretty much dried up after the 4-8 season, so he can certainly be asked why he didn't can pittman sooner, but you know the excuse given.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 12:58 PMWasnt the take on BMFP 1.0 that he was an excellent talent evaluator and making 2 and 3 stars into legit 4-5 star type guys? Maybe he "missed" on Green, but Green has the physical tools to be the best QB in the SEC. Not sure why Bobby has had 3rd quarter woes this year, but overall our offense hasn't been the issue except for careless turnover issues. I suspect he's put a lot more time and effort into assisting the defensive staff over the past few weeks.
Absolutely not. His best players the first time around were 4 and 5 stars. Just a stupid narrative. He and McGee made the rounds after they signed that lousy class in the Sugar Bowl year touting their evaluation skills. Arguably the worst class we've ever had.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 26, 2025, 01:05 PMAbsolutely not. His best players the first time around were 4 and 5 stars. Just a stupid narrative. He and McGee made the rounds after they signed that lousy class in the Sugar Bowl year touting their evaluation skills. Arguably the worst class we've ever had.
We were known for a lot of classes that were rerated higher than initially believed during the Petrino years is what I recall.
Quote from: animal on Oct 26, 2025, 01:52 PMWe were known for a lot of classes that were rerated higher than initially believed during the Petrino years is what I recall.
He wasn't here that long. 2010 class was dreadful. Mallett, Wilson, Gragg, Adams, Wright, Childs, DJ, Franklin, Bequette, Green was pretty fortunate to walk into. Some were already here but the state isn't pumping talent out like that anymore. Knile, Cobi...pretty much our playmakers were highly touted.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Oct 26, 2025, 12:41 PMThis is exactly what I had said several times. If it isn't Petrino, we will continue to play the "what ifs" over and over in our heads, especially if we get another mediocre coach. We need to give Bobby 4 years and then we can all move on.
Why do you or Borenutz think HY should care what average IQ fans think? He shouldn't give BP the job based on "what-ifs".
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 02:36 PMWhy do you or Borenutz think HY should care what average IQ fans think? He shouldn't give BP the job based on "what-ifs".
I guess on one hand, he shouldn't care, if he were to be trusted to make a quality evaluation for the next coach. On the other hand, he has his hand out looking for those folks' money.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 02:48 PMI guess on one hand, he shouldn't care, if he were to be trusted to make a quality evaluation for the next coach. On the other hand, he has his hand out looking for those folks' money.
I guess my follow up is do you think only average IQ fans think BP is the right choice?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 02:50 PMI guess my follow up is do you think only average IQ fans think BP is the right choice?
Actually I think if you polled the fan base 70% or more would be in favor of BP. However, I do think people more connected to UA like former students, donors etc are more in favor of him than Jimmy from Dewitt.
Fans are going to be hot and cold. We're cold now because that's a game we should have won. That's a game that indicates what we're really seeing is the same shit we've been seeing under Pittman. We're seeing Petrino can't unfuck this mid-season no matter what our well wishes are. We've come close but that's probably all we'll ever do.
We've developed no depth despite being terrible at multiple starting positions. Meaning the guys behind them must be absolute ass or not on the roster.
Yesterday I didn't feel like Petrino's play calling was that bad...although we aren't running Russell/Washington nearly enough. That seems to be a hallmark of Petrino at least right now...we don't stay committed to the run. Dare I say a Malzahn offense probably fits this team pretty well...but this team won't even remotely be the same next season no matter who the coach is.
Once thing I can gurantee you aint happening...the quarterback is not being coached to throw repeatedly into triple coverage. Those weren't even rushed throws...thy were calculated and mostly 1st reads. The guy is a fucking water head. He hasn't really improved that much from his Boise years. Again...I wish Petrino would return to the years where he was getting the high football IQ guys to run his shit. Falling in love with the athletes is really not helping him. Give me a leader that's tough and gritty...and maybe a guy with a accurate arm that really knows how to see the field.
He needs a Tyler Wilson, not a poor man's Lamar Jackson. If he gets a commitment as head coach, don't be surprised to see Jackson get a lot more reps.
I think he landed on Green knowing our Oline was gonna be miserable last year and he needed a guy that could escape. Green gave him that with some passing ability.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 26, 2025, 02:04 PMHe wasn't here that long. 2010 class was dreadful. Mallett, Wilson, Gragg, Adams, Wright, Childs, DJ, Franklin, Bequette, Green was pretty fortunate to walk into. Some were already here but the state isn't pumping talent out like that anymore. Knile, Cobi...pretty much our playmakers were highly touted.
We had more NFL defensive linemen that were recruited by Petrino than the rest of the coaches we've had in the SEC era combined.
Of the guys you mentioned only Mallett was a 5-Star. The rest were high 3s/low 4s. Every single one of them will tell you they wouldn't have developed into the same caliber player without Petrino's development.
This is not an argument to retain Bobby today. But explaining away his success here the first time as due to talent is indisputably wrong.
he's had a dual threat qb since he was at louisvile. if he wanted the drop back passer, he would have recruited one. green's been on his radar since high school, it doesn't seem like a take what he could get situation.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 26, 2025, 04:01 PMBut explaining away his success here the first time as due to talent is indisputably wrong.
We had another poster, goat fucker Zeke, that liked to make the same argument.
From the moment BP stepped on campus in 08 the team, players, win/loss record, fan enthusiasm, etc increased every year. That is the only fact that matters.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 04:14 PMWe had another poster, goat fucker Zeke, that liked to make the same argument.
From the moment BP stepped on campus in 08 the team, players, win/loss record, fan enthusiasm, etc increased every year. That is the only fact that matters.
I don't mean to take away from those guys accomplishments at all, but to act as if BP just happened to walk into all of them and had no bearing on their coming here is way off.
Quote from: animal on Oct 26, 2025, 03:20 PMFans are going to be hot and cold. We're cold now because that's a game we should have won. That's a game that indicates what we're really seeing is the same shit we've been seeing under Pittman. We're seeing Petrino can't unfuck this mid-season no matter what our well wishes are. We've come close but that's probably all we'll ever do.
We've developed no depth despite being terrible at multiple starting positions. Meaning the guys behind them must be absolute ass or not on the roster.
Yesterday I didn't feel like Petrino's play calling was that bad...although we aren't running Russell/Washington nearly enough. That seems to be a hallmark of Petrino at least right now...we don't stay committed to the run. Dare I say a Malzahn offense probably fits this team pretty well...but this team won't even remotely be the same next season no matter who the coach is.
Once thing I can gurantee you aint happening...the quarterback is not being coached to throw repeatedly into triple coverage. Those weren't even rushed throws...thy were calculated and mostly 1st reads. The guy is a fucking water head. He hasn't really improved that much from his Boise years. Again...I wish Petrino would return to the years where he was getting the high football IQ guys to run his shit. Falling in love with the athletes is really not helping him. Give me a leader that's tough and gritty...and maybe a guy with a accurate arm that really knows how to see the field.
Green has been throwing onto triple coverage all year. He seems to want to "thread the needle" instead of seeing a wide open receiver. He doesn't seem to see the field very well at times. Like others have said, he will make an outstanding play and then turn around and shit the bed.
Debates about Green are moot because he's not going to be QB next year, no matter who is coach
At least I have not seen anyone pumping Coach Prime lately.
https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/ (https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/)
Our boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.
Cliff notes:
- literally everything about this program sucks (stadium atmosphere, NIL, culture, etc)
- Everyone has to go, starting with Yurachek
- Petrino isn't the guy, and really hasn't done that great of a job as OC.
- head coaches who call plays aren't successful in modern college football
- we're not a good job anymore and have severe limitations with our recruiting footprint that have been exacerbated by the last 2 conference expansions
- best possible hire might be a coordinator at this moment
- State is still a possible win because they're somehow out-Arkansas'ing Arkansas.
To me, Petrino is a high floor hire. We know he's going to work his ass off. Ceiling may not be as high as it once was, but this may not be the year to get the high ceiling guy. There's certainly a lot of low floor guys we could hire. With that said, I'd still support a new guy, but the names mentioned so far seem underwhelming and not much of an upgrade.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 05:27 PMTo me, Petrino is a high floor hire. We know he's going to work his ass off. Ceiling may not be as high as it once was, but this may not be the year to get the high ceiling guy. There's certainly a lot of low floor guys we could hire. With that said, I'd still support a new guy, but the names mentioned so far seem underwhelming and not much of an upgrade.
Well said
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 05:12 PMhttps://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/ (https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/)
Our boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.
Cliff notes:
- literally everything about this program sucks (stadium atmosphere, NIL, culture, etc)
- Everyone has to go, starting with Yurachek
- Petrino isn't the guy, and really hasn't done that great of a job as OC.
- head coaches who call plays aren't successful in modern college football
- we're not a good job anymore and have severe limitations with our recruiting footprint that have been exacerbated by the last 2 conference expansions
- best possible hire might be a coordinator at this moment
- State is still a possible win because they're somehow out-Arkansas'ing Arkansas.
He was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.
How can a coach who was just the OC two weeks ago hand off play calling duties? Tell me that.
He is not better than the rest of the Arkansas Media. Safe to call everything out now, but before the Memphis loss, he was loving him some Pittman.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 26, 2025, 05:30 PMHe was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.
How can a coach who was just the OC two weeks ago hand off play calling duties? Tell me that.
He is not better than the rest of the Arkansas Media. Safe to call everything out now, but before the Memphis loss, he was loving him some Pittman.
He's been pretty well and truly off the bandwagon since Memphis, but wasn't high on him returning after last year either
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 05:12 PMOur boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.
The next hire must find that happy medium: ambitious and visionary, but willing to delegate and not overly arrogant. Smart, but more focused on hard work and discipline than strategic brilliance.
Someone like... well, Houston Nutt...Anyone who thinks
Houston Nutt ever had any of these qualities can be safely ignored.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 26, 2025, 05:30 PMHe was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.
How can a coach who was just the OC two weeks ago hand off play calling duties? Tell me that.
He is not better than the rest of the Arkansas Media. Safe to call everything out now, but before the Memphis loss, he was loving him some Pittman.
what?
his articles have been posted on here a bunch of times and i can't remember anyone on here calling him a pittman apologist. and he didn't say that petrino needed to give up play calling, obviously that wasn't going to happen, just pointed out that all of the teams currently in the top 10 have someone other than the hc calling the plays.
i'm going to bet you don't want to watch biddy's walk and talk.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 26, 2025, 05:40 PMwhat?
his articles have been posted on here a bunch of times and i can't remember anyone on here calling him a pittman apologist. and he didn't say that petrino needed to give up play calling, obviously that wasn't going to happen, just pointed out that all of the teams currently in the top 10 have someone other than the hc calling the plays.
i'm going to bet you don't want to watch biddy's walk and talk.
I get his post game write ups every Sunday. He has definitely defended Pittman for a while.
If we retain Petrino next year, I agree, he should give up play calling to a competent OC, but that statement was stupid.
I agree with the rest of his analysis, we have been saying that for a long time. Nothing new.
nm
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 05:12 PMhttps://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/ (https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/)
Our boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 25, 2025, 08:53 PMThat was it. Time to wipe the slate clean. New HC, new DC, new OC, new defense, new QB, new everything.
No more hope of improvement and a trajectory into next year.
Oh noes we suck. Again.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 26, 2025, 05:30 PMHe was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.
Eh, he's been pretty out on Pittman since 2023.
Even last year after the Tennessee win he was pretty overt about how Pittman — while in all likelihood having saved his job — still needed to be fired after the Ole Miss bloodbath and blowing yet another lead against Mizzou.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 06:35 PMEh, he's been pretty out on Pittman since 2023.
Even last year after the Tennessee win he was pretty overt about how Pittman — while in all likelihood having saved his job — still needed to be fired after the Ole Miss bloodbath and blowing yet another lead against Mizzou.
If the post games are still there, I will check them, but to me he always seem to beat around the bush with Pittman. He would slyly criticize Pittman but not come out and say it.
He would say he liked Pittman as a person I guess,but who the fuck cares. I don't want to like a coach as a person. I want to like them because they know what the fuck they are doing and they hate to lose.
Just burn it down and start from scratch. It won't make a difference next year anyway.
Man HY fucked this up so bad. Kept Pittman at least two years longer than he should have and fires him in a year when half the damned country is firing coaches.
For fuck's sake, LSU is about to fire Brian Kelly. I mean does anyone have faith we can hire a decent coach in this environment? Just hire Petrino and get it over with. I agree it ain't real exciting, but it is the best we are realistically going to do.
Another opening to compete with. Kelly out at LSU
https://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1982601689606783342?s=46
Somebody is gonna have to hire a shitty coach. There aren't many good options out there.
Petrino has to be the guy now regardless of how the season ends.
This is NOT a year you want to be coach shopping.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 07:21 PMSomebody is gonna have to hire a shitty coach. There aren't many good options out there.
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I thought it before the carousel ramped up to 78 rpm, now it's even more clear.
We need stability and the point about a high floor is the most important to me.
This current crop of up-and-comer guys seems to a feature a lot of rollercoasters, so we should give Petrino a few years then hopefully be in a better position to time the cycle.
Another plus to that is it would be more likely Heresyourcheck won't be here to make that later decision.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 07:27 PMPetrino has to be the guy now regardless of how the season ends.
This is NOT a year you want to be coach shopping.
The answer has been right there the whole time, but I'm still watching to see how we fuck it up
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 26, 2025, 07:09 PMMan HY fucked this up so bad. Kept Pittman at least two years longer than he should have and fires him in a year when half the damned country is firing coaches.
We should have fired him after the Mizzou loss last year.
Yurachek was such a pussy for buying into the "Pittman saved his job" narrative after the Tennessee game.
ONE game cannot justify keeping an underperforming coach.
As with quite literally everything our football program does, we're a day late and a dollar short. Never proactive, always reactive.
Keeping BLS (Blue Light Sam) two years too long put us in this shit storm. Hire Bobby now and end the BS. Give him a couple of years and see how things go.
The amount of money being paid to coaches that aren't working is asinine. If I were an NFL coordinator, I might be trying to latch onto one of those type deals. How are these Jimbo, Kelly, Franklin type buyouts sustainable?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 07:21 PMSomebody is gonna have to hire a shitty coach.
We're just the guys to do it.
https://youtu.be/_h4DZeBleLs?si=RUHWFG5bXqM1Z7Wz
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 07:34 PMThe amount of money being paid to coaches that aren't working is asinine. If I were an NFL coordinator, I might be trying to latch onto one of those type deals. How are these Jimbo, Kelly, Franklin type buyouts sustainable?
I've said this before, but the entire college football coaching model is broken.
When you have guys like Billy Napier getting $8M+ a year coming out of Louisiana-Lafayette, you know something's wrong.
Guys are getting paid multi-generational money to go away. Who's paying for this? What billionaires are going to keep funding this shitshow?
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 07:40 PMI've said this before, but the entire college football coaching model is broken.
When you have guys like Billy Napier getting $8M+ a year coming out of Louisiana-Lafayette, you know something's wrong.
Guys are getting paid multi-generational money to go away. Who's paying for this? What billionaires are going to keep funding this shitshow?
It's not sustainable. Donors are putting the bill for players and expect results. That forces AD's hand to make a change or funding will be pulled if they don't get results. Athletic departments will not be able to handle hiring/firing every ~3 years with the way these contracts are written. It's a vicious circle.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 26, 2025, 07:15 PMhttps://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1982601689606783342?s=46
Yurachek is probably already blowing up his phone.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 07:27 PMPetrino has to be the guy now regardless of how the season ends.
This is NOT a year you want to be coach shopping.
I think Petrino's chances died against Auburn, though I'm not sure he deserved that shot anyway
I guess he's a good backup if the search tanks like last time
We weren't competing with LSU, Florida and Penn St anyway
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 26, 2025, 07:45 PMI think Petrino's chances died against Auburn, though I'm not sure he deserved that shot anyway
I guess he's a good backup if the search tanks like last time
We weren't competing with LSU, Florida and Penn St anyway
i think you're right on all points.
can't look at schools that are willing to pay a guy $100 million bucks and say that's our competition.
Nothing like a coach search to bring folks out of the woodwork.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 26, 2025, 07:48 PMNothing like a coach search to bring folks out of the woodwork.
Brief glimpse of hope, man, brief glimpse of hope
Soon I'll probably drown in old fashioneds again
Can you imagine if we had to fire a coach with a +$50M buyout? We'd have to file bankruptcy.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 26, 2025, 07:50 PMBrief glimpse of hope, man, brief glimpse of hope
Soon I'll probably drown in old fashioneds again
There are worse ways to go...
My fear, BK seems like the kind of guy HY would hire.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 07:51 PMThere are worse ways to go...
I tried after the game last night.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 07:54 PMMy fear, BK seems like the kind of guy HY would hire.
Hopefully HY won't fall for the old Love letter trick Long did.
I'll throw in one plus about Petrino...
He will spend countless hours evaluating film of lower classification players that he thinks can play at the high DIlevel and largely on the offense he's been dead on about them.
You can win these days with transfers, look at Vandy. No matter what that needs to be part of the strategy at UA and if I were a new head coach I'd at least considering bringing him on as an "advisor" for that purpose.
It will be Petrino. He wants the job. That probably makes him the unicorn amongst any coaches we would want to hire.
Nabors throwing this out there...
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1982602912414019966?t=aeXBmJ_OTCxL6pdNSw5BsQ&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1982602912414019966?t=aeXBmJ_OTCxL6pdNSw5BsQ&s=19)
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 26, 2025, 07:57 PMI'll throw in one plus about Petrino...
He will spend countless hours evaluating film of lower classification players that he thinks can play at the high DIlevel and largely on the offense he's been dead on about them.
You can win these days with transfers, look at Vandy. No matter what that needs to be part of the strategy at UA and if I were a new head coach I'd at least considering bringing him on as an "advisor" for that purpose.
That on field abortion yesterday soured me on Petrino as it may have been our last chance at a win...but given that we are either going to have Hunter making the hire or be in the middle of an AD search at the time we need to be hiring a coach, we almost have to roll with BP for another year.
Here's a thought...does Sexton have a relative we can hire to be AD? Maybe if we put in someone for whom old Jabba is a stakeholder he will stop fucking us to the wall and keeping his competent clients away from us.
For all my gripes about Yurachek, I appreciate the lack of leaks from his athletic department.
Either Nabors is throwing shit to the wall, or he's been told by someone on the coaching staff that Bobby just got an open checkbook to go hunting for coordinators from these programs. Surely Florida, LSU, or even Penn State have assistants that we might want. "Upgrade" is such a low bar already.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 26, 2025, 08:04 PMHere's a thought...does Sexton have a relative we can hire to be AD? Maybe if we put in someone for whom old Jabba is a stakeholder he will stop fucking us to the wall and keeping his competent clients away from us.
He has a former client...
Ooh, intel. Unless it's James Franklin, I doubt I'll tune in.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 26, 2025, 08:07 PMNot worth it.
Come on, take the bait. We can get a new Vice Chancellor for Athletic Directoring and brother can get a new surround sound system.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 26, 2025, 08:06 PMFor all my gripes about Yurachek, I appreciate the lack of leaks from his athletic department.
Either Nabors is throwing shit to the wall, or he's been told by someone on the coaching staff that Bobby just got an open checkbook to go hunting for coordinators from these programs. Surely Florida, LSU, or even Penn State have assistants that we might want. "Upgrade" is such a low bar already.
Durkin has to know Freeze is a dead man walking. Give Petrino all the money he needs to go get him.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 12:58 PMWasnt the take on BMFP 1.0 that he was an excellent talent evaluator and making 2 and 3 stars into legit 4-5 star type guys? Maybe he "missed" on Green, but Green has the physical tools to be the best QB in the SEC. Not sure why Bobby has had 3rd quarter woes this year, but overall our offense hasn't been the issue except for careless turnover issues. I suspect he's put a lot more time and effort into assisting the defensive staff over the past few weeks.
I remember him saying he liked kids that had played at least a little basketball and he loved kids that had won a championship.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 08:01 PMNabors throwing this out there...
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1982602912414019966?t=aeXBmJ_OTCxL6pdNSw5BsQ&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1982602912414019966?t=aeXBmJ_OTCxL6pdNSw5BsQ&s=19)
"Tune in tomorrow."
That's an ad.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 26, 2025, 07:54 PMMy fear, BK seems like the kind of guy HY would hire.
Well shit. They are already wearing the BK (burger king) hats up there so f it. Maybe they can actually explain it if they hire him. 😂
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 26, 2025, 05:40 PMwhat?
his articles have been posted on here a bunch of times and i can't remember anyone on here calling him a pittman apologist. and he didn't say that petrino needed to give up play calling, obviously that wasn't going to happen, just pointed out that all of the teams currently in the top 10 have someone other than the hc calling the plays.
i'm going to bet you don't want to watch biddy's walk and talk.
The walk & talk was hilarious, especially the end.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 26, 2025, 08:11 PMOoh, intel. Unless it's James Franklin, I doubt I'll tune in.
Franklin isn't a splash enough hire for LSU or Florida.
He's going to end up at a place like Arkansas or Okie State, might as well be us
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 27, 2025, 06:44 AMFranklin isn't a splash enough hire for LSU or Florida.
He's going to end up at a place like Arkansas or Okie State, might as well be us
I'm not a Franklin fan by any means but if you get him, you go get him.
Franklin is just one of those dudes that is a good coach...not great. I wouldn't go getting lost in those 11 win seasons at Penn State. It was in the fricking Big 10. He's probably never winning a natty.
I can see Florida maybe taking a turn at Franklin but not LSU.
LSU will go hard for Kiffin or maybe someone like Lanning...those are the whales this season and Kiffin I halfway expect to stay put.
Also let me just say people were poo pooing Willie Fritz and he's 7-1 at Houston after moving to the Big 12 where there was an adjustment. That was supposedly someone that was at one time interested in Arkansas. I doubt he is now.
Satterfield at Cincy...was seen as a meh hire and he's now 7-1
Admittedly they are in a weak Big 12 now but still 7-1 is a lot better than 2-6.
Franklin should be unhireable after the Vandy rape scandal.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 27, 2025, 07:48 AMFranklin should be unhireable after the Vandy rape scandal.
He'll be the next coach at Baylor
once he gets the roster squared, franklin will get you 9 wins a season with 10+ every few years.
don't think he'd come to arkansas but after the last 15 years, fans would be fools to turn their noses up at that.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 27, 2025, 08:40 AMonce he gets the roster squared, franklin will get you 9 wins a season with 10+ every few years.
don't think he'd come to arkansas but after the last 15 years, fans would be fools to turn their noses up at that.
Agreed. I'd take him tomorrow.
Petrino's last HC job was Missouri St., of course he wants this job. It's his last chance at a big time gig, but we need to move on.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 13, 2025, 04:39 AMScroll through X this morning and it's like someone paid all the Razorback fans to ridicule the thought of hiring anyone other than James Franklin.
Seems the tide is turning on Franklin. Looks like a great many Razorback fan wants a 8-9 win a year guy. Cool cool cool.
These coaches some are talking about with a 7-1 or 6-2 record right now may be flashes in the pan. They come to the SEC and will be lucky to win 4 games. If they win 8-9 consistently, ok. But look at their overall records for past years. There are coaches that are winning now, but have failed in the past. It will be a crap shoot no matter who we end up with.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 27, 2025, 09:06 AMThese coaches some are talking about with a 7-1 or 6-2 record right now may be flashes in the pan. They come to the SEC and will be lucky to win 4 games. If they win 8-9 consistently, ok. But look at their overall records for past years. There are coaches that are winning now, but have failed in the past. It will be a crap shoot no matter who we end up with.
What are Stan Heath or John Pelphrey doing nowadays? Surely they learned some football hanging around college athletic departments.
There just aren't a lot of "long term" success stories out there to be had. You'll have a Matt Campbell (Iowa State)...he's probably a better coach than that situation really offers. PJ Fleck is the prototypical flash in the pan guy...wouldn't shock me if Minnesota pulls the plug. Row your boat is probably another old school coach that is going to struggle in the NIL era if he doesn't adjust. Wisconsin probably loses Fickle.
Jason Candle at Toledo is usually pretty decent record wise...nobody has really taken a run at him because the guy has never really done anything of note.
I looked at FCS and D2 guys and really not seeing much...Brennan Marion is meh at Sac State. That was a hot name a year ago.
This really looks like the kind of hiring time where it would be best to ride the Petrino hype train...give him a huge budget and let it go. Carve out a favorable thing after 3 or 4 years where if it aint working we can get away from him cheap.
Quote from: animal on Oct 27, 2025, 10:45 AMThis really looks like the kind of hiring time where it would be best to ride the Petrino hype train...give him a huge budget and let it go. Carve out a favorable thing after 3 or 4 years where if it aint working we can get away from him cheap.
This is where I am, but then again, if he doesn't get at least one signature win this year, it'll be hard to sell him when so many other schools are taking big swings at big names.
I think if we hadn't completely collapsed in the fourth quarter vs Auburn, and if we had gotten that win, then there's no question the fans would be 99% ready to hire him, and Bobby would get the gig. I think if we come out and beat Miss State, all of the panic after the Auburn game largely goes away.
This team just needs a win.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Oct 27, 2025, 08:53 AMA Power 4 gig, is that better?
Not even sure about that. From a story I saw online this morning.
LSU has instantly become one of the hottest-coaching vacancies in the SEC and college football overall. The Tigers' opening now joins Florida, Penn State, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma State as the prominent jobs that have become available following firings this season.
Anybody actually listen to Neighbors? I did. He says this weekend was Petrino's last chance. He says HY is out of the process completely. He says boosters have come together and are willing to spend $9 to $12 million per year on a head coach with commensurate commitment elsewhere necessary to "blow it up" and send the message that Arkansas intends to be a player.
Sounds good. But I've been an Arkansas fan for too long to get much excited yet. It will take that sort of commitment. I guess, we'll see.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 27, 2025, 11:43 AMAnybody actually listen to Neighbors? I did. He says this weekend was Petrino's last chance. He says HY is out of the process completely. He says boosters have come together and are willing to spend $9 to $12 million per year on a head coach with commensurate commitment elsewhere necessary to "blow it up" and send the message that Arkansas intends to be a player.
Sounds good. But I've been an Arkansas fan for too long to get much excited yet. It will take that sort of commitment. I guess, we'll see.
I can only imagine the success Petrino could have if that money were put to buying D linemen.
Good chance that he's full of shit.
https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1982824951121125496
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 27, 2025, 11:52 AMhttps://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1982824951121125496
Maybe it's just copium, but I have a hot take that the LSU job isn't as attractive as they think it is.
When they fired Miles, the best they could do was promote Orgeron.
They fired O less than 2 seasons removed from a natty.
They fired Kelly for losing 3 games in a season. I just don't know if coaches are going to clamoring to throw away their current situations to go coach a program where you'll get fired at the drop of a hat. If you're Kiffen, why are you leaving the comfort of Oxford for that bullshit?
Just look at DeBoer if you need a cautionary tale about leaving a good situation for a supposedly better one.
corndog fans would kick and scream but i can see them going after sumrall.
ole miss has south carolina, the citadel, and florida at home before finishing at starkville for the egg bowl. unless disaster happens, they are in the playoffs and with some crazy shit with a couple of teams ahead of them, could get a bye. good chance kiffin is coaching into at least the 2nd week of january. that's after the portal opens. who the hell is going to wait until then to hire a coach?
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 27, 2025, 08:40 AMonce he gets the roster squared, franklin will get you 9 wins a season with 10+ every few years.
don't think he'd come to arkansas but after the last 15 years, fans would be fools to turn their noses up at that.
4-22 against top 25 at Penn St. Big Game James.
No thanks.
Are people really wanting Franklin now and think that's a possibility?
Anybody who wants Eli drinkwitz to be hired after as snarky smarmy and shitty as he has been towards Arkansas, is a Kamala voter who likes to eat snickers upside down because he likes the way the ridges feel on his tongue.
Make-a-wish Pitbull? No.
I don't think anyone wants Drinkwitz.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 27, 2025, 01:54 PMI don't think anyone wants Drinkwitz.
We. Are. Arkansas.
I wonder how much fat ass Jimmy Sexton has rolled in this week? How many of those former coaches were clients of his? Does he get a percentage of each coach's salary as their agent? If so, what about the buyout? Jimmy ain't gonna let money fall through his fat greasy fingers.
I'm sure he has a list of what client coaches he wants to go where. We've got Yuracheck as one of his AD-clients, I think.
What did we do to piss him off?
Someone brought up Jimmy Sexton on the Paul Finebaum Show the other day. Sexton even has Paul Finebaum as a client. Even Finebaum said the Jimmy Sexton set-up was gross. Sexton gets to deal with a client AD to discuss the hiring of a client coach. Who benefits from all of this?
Fat ass Jimmy Sexton.
I can't fault Sexton. Sure he's a slime ball lawyer, but he offers a service and he's very good at it. Can't fault the coaches for retaining his services. He's going to get them the best deal. Athletic directors are the dumb asses in this equation. All it's going to take is a couple of them saying no. We missed a golden opportunity with Sam. It's the only way this is ever going to come in line. Coaches can not continued to be incentivized to fail. It needs to be the other way around. Pay them for wins.
Quote from: animal on Oct 27, 2025, 10:45 AMI looked at FCS and D2 guys and really not seeing much...Brennan Marion is meh at Sac State. That was a hot name a year ago.
Just go get Paul Simmons at Harding in Searcy. He's averaging 11 wins over the past 7 seasons.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 27, 2025, 02:49 PMJust go get Paul Simmons at Harding in Searcy. He's averaging 11 wins over the past 7 seasons.
Just as risky as anyone else. I like the thinking outside the box.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 27, 2025, 02:49 PMJust go get Paul Simmons at Harding in Searcy. He's averaging 11 wins over the past 7 seasons.
Yeah and we can run the triple option.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 27, 2025, 02:49 PMJust go get Paul Simmons at Harding in Searcy. He's averaging 11 wins over the past 7 seasons.
This begs an intriguing question. Which is the better business model for 2nd and 3rd tier D1 programs in today's collegiate football environment?
1. Hire a promising but relatively unknown HC and his staff on the cheap and throw the absolute bank at fielding a team of the best athletes your money can buy.
2. Hire the best HC and staff you can afford and spend what you have left on a few highly talented difference makers in hopes that your coaches can get the best out of the rest of your athletes.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 27, 2025, 03:05 PMYeah and we can run the triple option.
Hey, we ran the power I against Auburn and the fans loved it. Why not sprinkle in the wishbone?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 27, 2025, 03:10 PMHey, we ran the power I against Auburn and the fans loved it. Why not sprinkle in the wishbone?
With Green that might work. The only decision he'd have to make is keep or pitch.
Idk. We cant hang on to the ball as it is. We'd just fumble on the exchange.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 27, 2025, 03:09 PMThis begs an intriguing question. Which is the better business model for 2nd and 3rd tier D1 programs in today's collegiate football environment?
1. Hire a promising but relatively unknown HC and his staff on the cheap and throw the absolute bank at fielding a team of the best athletes your money can buy.
2. Hire the best HC and staff you can afford and spend what you have left on a few highly talented difference makers in hopes that your coaches can get the best out of the rest of your athletes.
Hire the absolute best you can afford AND fund them to match and GROW the business with increased demand for your product.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 27, 2025, 03:09 PMThis begs an intriguing question. Which is the better business model for 2nd and 3rd tier D1 programs in today's collegiate football environment?
1. Hire a promising but relatively unknown HC and his staff on the cheap and throw the absolute bank at fielding a team of the best athletes your money can buy.
2. Hire the best HC and staff you can afford and spend what you have left on a few highly talented difference makers in hopes that your coaches can get the best out of the rest of your athletes.
this is really what HY and others are gonna decide and I'm not sure which is best at this point. The idea of hiring Lashlee gives me PTSD from Chad. But he's young.
I would like to see us take a DC from the top defenses in the Power 4 conferences as a head coach. Arkansas would be a lot better off if the baseline for the culture was that we will always play great defense. Give them all the resources that they need to be successful. We also need to stop imagining ourselves as a destination job. Coaches that see us as a destination are looking to augment their retirement plans. I would much prefer to have a coach that is trying to head somewhere; he'll be hungry, than a coach that feels like he's "home".
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 27, 2025, 03:34 PMHire the absolute best you can afford AND fund them to match and GROW the business with increased demand for your product.
He's sitting in the head coach's office right now. The best coach since Lou Holtz to walk the sideline at Arkansas and they're going to just send him packing, AGAIN. Unless they've found the next Saban then Bobby is the best option. PeriodT.
Quote from: obijuana on Oct 27, 2025, 07:58 PMHe's sitting in the head coach's office right now. The best coach since Lou Holtz to walk the sideline at Arkansas and they're going to just send him packing, AGAIN. Unless they've found the next Saban then Bobby is the best option. PeriodT.
I sort of agree. It won't hurt my feelings if he is hired.
Washington Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury getting a lot of airtime.
Early on he was mentioned as a dark horse candidate.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Oct 27, 2025, 07:38 PMI would like to see us take a DC from the top defenses in the Power 4 conferences as a head coach. Arkansas would be a lot better off if the baseline for the culture was that we will always play great defense. Give them all the resources that they need to be successful. We also need to stop imagining ourselves as a destination job. Coaches that see us as a destination are looking to augment their retirement plans. I would much prefer to have a coach that is trying to head somewhere; he'll be hungry, than a coach that feels like he's "home".
I like this mind frame.
Quote from: Guardrail on Oct 27, 2025, 03:30 PMWith Green that might work. The only decision he'd have to make is keep or pitch.
Idk. We cant hang on to the ball as it is. We'd just fumble on the exchange.
Green misses that read at least half the time now. You want to complicate it by making him add distance to the exchange?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 27, 2025, 08:30 PMGreen misses that read at least half the time now. You want to complicate it by making him add distance to the exchange?
Ain't that the truth. He'd get kilt or fumble.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 27, 2025, 08:19 PMWashington Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury getting a lot of airtime.
Early on he was mentioned as a dark horse candidate.
Look at his Texas tech record. No thanks and that was with Mahomes.
Worth a call, he wins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Chesney
FWIW, I've been told that Dillingham at ASU is "very much in play" for the Hogs but it could easily be BS.
His name has also been linked to the corndogs and Pedo State.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 28, 2025, 07:53 AMFWIW, I've been told that Dillingham at ASU is "very much in play" for the Hogs but it could easily be BS.
His name has also been linked to the corndogs and Pedo State.
Isn't he an alumnus of ASU? I'm not sure he would leave. But if he would, he has ties to the Gus mafia and an SEC pedigree.
We could end up with Dillingham as HC and Norvell as OC or....Gus. puke
Quote from: obijuana on Oct 27, 2025, 07:58 PMHe's sitting in the head coach's office right now. The best coach since Lou Holtz to walk the sideline at Arkansas and they're going to just send him packing, AGAIN. Unless they've found the next Saban then Bobby is the best option. PeriodT.
I don't know whether you are right or wrong, but if he's that great, why haven't other programs been trying to hire him?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 27, 2025, 11:14 PMWorth a call, he wins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Chesney
I had him in a game last year and was impressed.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 28, 2025, 09:01 AMIsn't he an alumnus of ASU? I'm not sure he would leave. But if he would, he has ties to the Gus mafia and an SEC pedigree.
We could end up with Dillingham as HC and Norvell as OC or....Gus. puke
Yep; area native, ASU grad, and he's been quoted as saying coaching there is his "lifelong dream".
Good news is, Fat Jimmy is not his agent.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 28, 2025, 09:30 AMYep; area native, ASU grad, and he's been quoted as saying coaching Quote from: FNG on Oct 28, 2025, 09:30 AMYep; area native, ASU grad, and he's been quoted as saying coaching there is his "lifelong dream".
Good news is, Fat Jimmy is not his agent.
Sounds like people talking to Gus and getting his recommendations again. That worked so well the last time...
People simply cannot operate with common sense. Dillingham is not leaving his alma mater for Arkansas. Will he take a call? Sure. Are we trying to contact him? Absolutely - make him say no. Is he coming here? Fuck no.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Bounce pass to Ferret Top and Otis.
Hire a coach with a lopsided losing record against ranked teams to coach in the ever loaded sec. Bold strategy, Cotton, let's see how it plays out.
So they didn't get anything right about the last two football hires or the last two basketball hires, but now they're insiders again?
kiffin is 11-24 against ranked teams at ole miss. i guess none of you would want him as a coach. there's like 10 current p4 coaches with a winning record against ranked teams, none of whom are coming to arkansas.
those two guys don't know shit. if this search is anything like the other recent ones, it will nobody that's being talked about right now.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 28, 2025, 06:48 PMhttps://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Bounce pass to Ferret Top and Otis.
I was just joking when I brought him up the other day.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 28, 2025, 07:21 PMkiffin is 11-24 against ranked teams at ole miss. i guess none of you would want him as a coach. there's like 10 current p4 coaches with a winning record against ranked teams, none of whom are coming to arkansas.
those two guys don't know shit. if this search is anything like the other recent ones, it will nobody that's being talked about right now.
This is probably closer to the truth than we are going to admit. I just hope it isn't a fucker looking to retire after fucking us out of a lot of money again.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 28, 2025, 09:21 AMI don't know whether you are right or wrong, but if he's that great, why haven't other programs been trying to hire him?
I had him in a game last year and was impressed.
Petrino is damaged goods. There's not a major program in America that would even give him a call. Fan bases would up in arms if he got their job. Not because of his ability, but his checkered past. Hard to blame them.
If NIL wasn't a thing I'd wouldn't want him either because his past would definitely be used against us in recruiting. Now, it's all about money. He also won't cost Pitbull money. He worked miracles here in a short amount of time before. I think he'll do it again if given the chance.
I have no clue who the right answer is. Maybe there isn't one. Maybe it's somebody like kinne at Texas st that is the next big thing, but we pass on him and three years later he comes and ass fucks us.
But sometimes I just like being the antagonist.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 28, 2025, 07:55 PMI have no clue who the right answer is. Maybe there isn't one. Maybe it's somebody like kinne at Texas st that is the next big thing, but we pass on him and three years later he comes and ass fucks us.
But sometimes I just like being the antagonist.
watch it be someone like gundy or jimbo. no joke.
and actually, going into the season gundy was tied with dabo for wins against ranked teams among active p4 coaches. edit: was tied with dabo, not most wins.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 28, 2025, 07:58 PMwatch it be someone like gundy or jimbo. no joke.
and actually, going into the season gundy was tied with dabo for wins against ranked teams among active p4 coaches. edit: was tied with dabo, not most wins.
I'd be perfectly fine with the Arkansas Waterfall. He'd be good with financial support.
I like both of them but Chesney (JMU) is kicking Kinne's (TX State) tail tonight.
Quote from: obijuana on Oct 28, 2025, 07:42 PMPetrino is damaged goods. There's not a major program in America that would even give him a call. Fan bases would up in arms if he got their job. Not because of his ability, but his checkered past. Hard to blame them.
If NIL wasn't a thing I'd wouldn't want him either because his past would definitely be used against us in recruiting. Now, it's all about money. He also won't cost Pitbull money. He worked miracles here in a short amount of time before. I think he'll do it again if given the chance.
I don't disagree with any of this. If he's damaged goods, do we want him? Maybe, maybe not.
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 28, 2025, 09:42 PMI don't disagree with any of this. If he's damaged goods, do we want him? Maybe, maybe not.
Of course not.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 28, 2025, 06:48 PMhttps://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1983295816384250212?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Bounce pass to Ferret Top and Otis.
Tell James Franklin Marquel Wade says "what's up?"
Temu Pitbull won't come here.
Mike Irwin has fully bloomed into a Hogville mod. He knows nothing but he loves to pretend he does.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 29, 2025, 11:30 AMMike Irwin has fully bloomed into a Hogville mod. He knows nothing but he loves to pretend he does.
I waded over there last week for the first time in probably 5 years..and OOF. What a bunch of mouth breathing imbeciles. I'm seriously embarrassed to be part of the same fan base as that crowd. There's not a dumber fan base in the entire SEC, and they're all concentrated on that 1 board
Quote from: TC on Oct 29, 2025, 12:05 PMI waded over there last week for the first time in probably 5 years..and OOF. What a bunch of mouth breathing imbeciles. I'm seriously embarrassed to be part of the same fan base as that crowd. There's not a dumber fan base in the entire SEC, and they're all concentrated on that 1 board
When I say we don't deserve nice things, I'm referring to that place. It's worse than LinkedIn.
My sources tell me the power players are trying to get Walmart to pay for the naming rights to the Stadium for the next 20 years in exchange for massive contributions to NIL and coaches salary. See, I am just like Mike Irwin and Otis Kirk. Where is my check?
Quote from: arreferee on Oct 28, 2025, 09:41 PMI like both of them but Chesney (JMU) is kicking Kinne's (TX State) tail tonight.
For those curious:
Chesney - Age 48
2010 Salve Regina 6–4 5–3 3rd (Boyd)
2011 Salve Regina 8–3 6–2 3rd (Boyd)
2012 Salve Regina 9–2 7–1 1st (Boyd)
Salve Regina: 23–9 18–6
2013 Assumption 6–5 6–3 4th
2014 Assumption 7–4 6–3 T–3rd
2015 Assumption 11–2 8–1 1st
2016 Assumption 9–3 8–1 2nd
2017 Assumption 11–2 8–1 1st
Assumption: 44–16 36–9
2018 Holy Cross 5–6 4–2 T–2nd
2019 Holy Cross 7–6 5–1 1st
2020 Holy Cross 3–1 2–0
2021 Holy Cross 10–3 6–0 1st
2022 Holy Cross 12–1 6–0 1st
2023 Holy Cross 7–4 5–1 T–1st
Holy Cross: 44–21 28–4
James Madison Dukes (Sun Belt Conference) (2024–present)
2024 James Madison 9–4 4–4
2025 James Madison 7–1 5–0
James Madison: 16–5 9–4
https://x.com/psunationrec/status/1983530913607938099
Quote from: TC on Oct 29, 2025, 12:05 PMI waded over there last week for the first time in probably 5 years..and OOF. What a bunch of mouth breathing imbeciles. I'm seriously embarrassed to be part of the same fan base as that crowd. There's not a dumber fan base in the entire SEC, and they're all concentrated on that 1 board
I thank God that I got banned from there
weird that a pedo st recruiting account is reporting this and none of the vt sites or national guys. not saying it's wrong, just odd to me.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 29, 2025, 05:09 PMweird that a pedo st recruiting account is reporting this and none of the vt sites or national guys. not saying it's wrong, just odd to me.
Likely bullshit. Just passing along.
Quote from: SOM on Oct 29, 2025, 04:52 PMFor those curious:
Chesney - Age 48
2010 Salve Regina 6–4 5–3 3rd (Boyd)
2011 Salve Regina 8–3 6–2 3rd (Boyd)
2012 Salve Regina 9–2 7–1 1st (Boyd)
Salve Regina: 23–9 18–6
2013 Assumption 6–5 6–3 4th
2014 Assumption 7–4 6–3 T–3rd
2015 Assumption 11–2 8–1 1st
2016 Assumption 9–3 8–1 2nd
2017 Assumption 11–2 8–1 1st
Assumption: 44–16 36–9
2018 Holy Cross 5–6 4–2 T–2nd
2019 Holy Cross 7–6 5–1 1st
2020 Holy Cross 3–1 2–0
2021 Holy Cross 10–3 6–0 1st
2022 Holy Cross 12–1 6–0 1st
2023 Holy Cross 7–4 5–1 T–1st
Holy Cross: 44–21 28–4
James Madison Dukes (Sun Belt Conference) (2024–present)
2024 James Madison 9–4 4–4
2025 James Madison 7–1 5–0
James Madison: 16–5 9–4
Some fucking solid rmpl'ing here.
This chesney guy is who you get if you want the next big thing and not the current big thing that will cost 30% more.
I'm going to be so pissed off if we end up with lashlee, so we probably will for some ridiculous amount of money all because he beat up on a lot of really bad teams last year. Ugh... The hogs would have made the playoff last year with that schedule. Woopty fucking doo.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 29, 2025, 05:13 PMLikely bullshit. Just passing along.
all good. it's going to get crazy the next four weeks.
Quote from: razor5396 on Oct 29, 2025, 01:18 PMMy sources tell me the power players are trying to get Walmart to pay for the naming rights to the Stadium for the next 20 years in exchange for massive contributions to NIL and coaches salary. See, I am just like Mike Irwin and Otis Kirk. Where is my check?
When is the last time you washed the shirt you're wearing?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 29, 2025, 05:02 PMhttps://x.com/psunationrec/status/1983530913607938099
Am I the only one that feels glad we can't hire this guy?
He'll want $10 mil a year and I think he'd win about 7 a year here.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 28, 2025, 07:21 PMkiffin is 11-24 against ranked teams at ole miss. i guess none of you would want him as a coach. there's like 10 current p4 coaches with a winning record against ranked teams, none of whom are coming to arkansas.
those two guys don't know shit. if this search is anything like the other recent ones, it will nobody that's being talked about right now.
Solid point
I think a smart move would be to lock up anyone of the caliber of a Franklin available now, as I think we are going to see a cascade of hires. I think Kiffen and Drink will be heavily targeted and those likely openings will compete with ours.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 29, 2025, 05:24 PMAm I the only one that feels glad we can't hire this guy?
He'll want $10 mil a year and I think he'd win about 7 a year here.
Why would he want $10 mil a year? It would just come out of his guaranteed Penn St money, he'd make the same.
Smart move by Franklin is to take a low salary and create a giant assistant (and possibly NIL) pool and let Penn State keep paying him
Quote from: BASS on Oct 29, 2025, 05:24 PMAm I the only one that feels glad we can't hire this guy?
He'll want $10 mil a year and I think he'd win about 7 a year here.
Is it weird that the idea of 7 wins a year made it twitch a little?
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 29, 2025, 05:38 PMIs it weird that the idea of 7 wins a year made it twitch a little?
If you can win that many at VANDY after they were getting 1-2 a year, you can get more than that here IMO
My knock on Franklin is that I'm not sure he understands the right strategy for the transfer/NIL era.
But that's also true of Saban
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 29, 2025, 05:41 PMIf you can win that many at VANDY after they were getting 1-2 a year, you can get more than that here IMO
My knock on Franklin is that I'm not sure he understands the right strategy for the transfer/NIL era.
But that's also true of Saban
doesn't matter, he gone to VA Tech. NEXT
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 29, 2025, 05:44 PMdoesn't matter, he gone to VA Tech. NEXT
Done deal?
I never believe anything with coaches until ink's dry.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 29, 2025, 05:18 PMSome fucking solid rmpl'ing here.
This chesney guy is who you get if you want the next big thing and not the current big thing that will cost 30% more.
I'm going to be so pissed off if we end up with lashlee, so we probably will for some ridiculous amount of money all because he beat up on a lot of really bad teams last year. Ugh... The hogs would have made the playoff last year with that schedule. Woopty fucking doo.
which has happened to the Hogs never...maybe Hatfield?
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 29, 2025, 05:45 PMDone deal?
I never believe anything with coaches until ink's dry.
nothing official but lots of smoke. Can't blame him, he's too young to take on a career killer like this job. We'll pbly be stuck w/ Bob P no matter what.
I'd rather have Lashlee than Franklin. I hate Franklin's offenses.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 29, 2025, 05:56 PMnothing official but lots of smoke. Can't blame him, he's too young to take on a career killer like this job. We'll pbly be stuck w/ Bob P no matter what.
This guy says 5 year $60 mil. If they offered that he's gone.
https://x.com/BeauxSouthall/status/1983649165394792563
We didn't want him anyway. He's no Barry Lunney Jr
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 29, 2025, 06:06 PMWe didn't want him anyway. He's no Barry Lunney Jr
Doesn't love the helmet? Lunney's offense put up 337 yards of offense against Washington... in a loss. THAT'S the kind of grit we need at Arkansas.
Quote from: animal on Oct 29, 2025, 05:47 PMwhich has happened to the Hogs never...maybe Hatfield?
The swc was pretty bad in the 87-89 era compared to the big 8, acc, sec, big 10, pac 12, and Notre Dame, Arkansas and Texas were the only teams worth a shit and we'd have both been mid tier in another conference.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 29, 2025, 06:03 PMThis guy says 5 year $60 mil. If they offered that he's gone.
https://x.com/BeauxSouthall/status/1983649165394792563
Wudn't no $10 mil a year....
I knew he would get a big paycheck from whomever signed him.
There goes Beamer's move to VT. I guess he better win.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 29, 2025, 06:36 PMDoesn't love the helmet? Lunney's offense put up 337 yards of offense against Washington... in a loss. THAT'S the kind of grit we need at Arkansas.
If they had no turnovers what are we waiting for?
Is it subliminal that we pin the score prediction thread, but not this one?
Quote from: Cornhogio on Oct 29, 2025, 06:42 PMThere goes Beamer's move to VT. I guess he better win.
Don't think this is a done deal yet. Way too early. Doesn't make sense for Franklin to move this early when other jobs are likely to open.
Can you imagine how big of a raise Kiffin is going to get out of this?
Franklin should not be hireable.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 29, 2025, 05:27 PMWhy would he want $10 mil a year? It would just come out of his guaranteed Penn St money, he'd make the same.
Smart move by Franklin is to take a low salary and create a giant assistant (and possibly NIL) pool and let Penn State keep paying him
Great point that I didn't think about with some of these guys who got fired with substantial buyouts. Take a lower salary and use the rest to put together a dream team of coordinators/former head coaches.
Quote from: TC on Oct 29, 2025, 08:02 PMGreat point that I didn't think about with some of these guys who got fired with substantial buyouts. Take a lower salary and use the rest to put together a dream team of coordinators/former head coaches.
Yet, apparently Franklin said fuck it give me more money than my buyout will pay me.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 29, 2025, 07:46 PMFranklin should not be hireable.
By those standards neither should Kelly, Petrino, Petino, Meyer, or even Hogville's favorite, Gruden. While we're at it, what did Kendall know and when?
At some point you're gonna have to make some tough decisions about your "principles" when it comes to your sports coaches.
I'm good with looking at guys at low level schools.
Indiana hired Cignetti out of JMU.
Ohio State hired Tressel out of Youngstown State.
Find someone with several years of top level success at a low level school.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 29, 2025, 09:25 PMI'm good with looking at guys at low level schools.
Indiana hired Cignetti out of JMU.
Ohio State hired Tressel out of Youngstown State.
Find someone with several years of top level success at a low level school.
Chesney at James Madison
Quote from: BASS on Oct 29, 2025, 09:31 PMChesney at James Madison
Would be a smart hire.
However, the money folks are calling the shots and they want a name.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 29, 2025, 09:31 PMChesney at James Madison
Simmons at Harding.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 29, 2025, 09:53 PMWould be a smart hire.
However, the money folks are calling the shots and they want a name.
Seems the smarter thing to do is hire smart, don't overpay, which is what will happen if we get a name, and put more towards nil.
Quote from: Loma on Oct 30, 2025, 07:17 AMSimmons at Harding.
I can get on board with that. Winners win. Remember when Chip Kelly was at New Hampshire? Neither does anyone else.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 30, 2025, 10:14 AMI can get on board with that. Winners win. Remember when Chip Kelly was at New Hampshire? Neither does anyone else.
Chad won big in high school.
Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 30, 2025, 03:30 PMChad won big in high school.
So did Gerry Faust.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 30, 2025, 05:36 PMAnd Gus.
Well Gus has had a hell of a lot more college success than Chad (vomit) or Gerry Faust.
https://x.com/RileyMcFerran/status/1983946315558998042
it was refueling there, on the way to eugene. we're hiring dan lanning!
So are we going after Jay hill as DC and keeping Bobby? Is this what they're doing there? I wouldn't mind it
Rhett Lashlee's wiki bio says this.
Lashlee played college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Lashlee was a backup quarterback to Matt Jones, from 2002 to 2004 for the Razorbacks.
Since I follow the Razorbacks as much as anyone and don't remember him AT ALL (like, not even a tickle in the back of the brain), I looked up his stats.
2002 – no stats
2003 – 2 GP, 1 passing attempt
2004 – no stats
Does this count as playing college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks 2002-2004?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 10:35 AMRhett Lashlee's wiki bio says this.
Lashlee played college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Lashlee was a backup quarterback to Matt Jones, from 2002 to 2004 for the Razorbacks.
Since I follow the Razorbacks as much as anyone and don't remember him AT ALL (like, not even a tickle in the back of the brain), I looked up his stats.
2002 – no stats
2003 – 2 GP, 1 passing attempt
2004 – no stats
Does this count as playing college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks 2002-2004?
Under Nutt, yes.
Matt Jones??
That guy wasn't even the starting QB!
Signed, Ryan Sorahan
:D
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 31, 2025, 10:57 AMUnder Nutt, yes.
Was he the one that they had to recruit from the intramural field?
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 31, 2025, 12:14 PMWas he the one that they had to recruit from the intramural field?
John Bland.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 31, 2025, 12:14 PMWas he the one that they had to recruit from the intramural field?
Rutledge
Quote from: llhog on Oct 31, 2025, 12:20 PMRutledge
Wait that name sounds right too.
Was Bland the backup QB who got injured thus requiring Rutledge?
We went through four quarterbacks the first game against UNLV in 2001, right?
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 31, 2025, 12:41 PMWe went through four quarterbacks the first game against UNLV in 2001, right?
2000 I think it was
Robby Hampton, Zak Clark, Matt Jones, and Ryan Sorahan
Yes, he played. He got in one year 02 or 93 when we played Tulsa in Fayetteville.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 31, 2025, 12:46 PM2000 I think it was
Robby Hampton, Zak Clark, Matt Jones, and Ryan Sorahan
Looks like three QBs played in the 2001 UNLV Game. Clark, Sorahan, and Tarv. Jackson. 14 - 10 final score.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 31, 2025, 12:54 PMLooks like three QBs played in the 2001 UNLV Game. Clark, Sorahan, and Tarv. Jackson. 14 - 10 final score.
They put a little short receiver in at QB too.
Gerald Howard
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 31, 2025, 12:57 PMThey put a little short receiver in at QB too.
Gerald Howard
Correct. He was one of 4 guys who played QB in that game and none of them were Matt Jones. I'm getting angry all over again.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 31, 2025, 01:08 PMCorrect. He was one of 4 guys who played QB in that game and none of them were Matt Jones. I'm getting angry all over again.
Yes that game was famous for being a "not Matt Jones" game. Almost as famous as our home loss to Vanderbilt was for being a "not Darren McFadden" game.
Back when you loved to see a Vanderbilt on your schedule.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 01:14 PMYes that game was famous for being a "not Matt Jones" game. Almost as famous as our home loss to Vanderbilt was for being a "not Darren McFadden" game.
Back when you loved to see a Vanderbilt on your schedule.
McFadden played one or two snaps in the Vandy game and had a carry for about 11 yards and never saw the field again.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 01:14 PMYes that game was famous for being a "not Matt Jones" game. Almost as famous as our home loss to Vanderbilt was for being a "not Darren McFadden" game.
Back when you loved to see a Vanderbilt on your schedule.
Don't forget the refs hating us too, calling that last Jay Cutler incomplete pass complete, though replay showed it wasn't.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 31, 2025, 12:46 PM2000 I think it was
Robby Hampton, Zak Clark, Matt Jones, and Ryan Sorahan
Matt Jones was not one. It was Gerald Howard.
https://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19 (https://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19)
if you missed it last night, sumrall got his ass handed to him by traylor
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 31, 2025, 01:28 PMhttps://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19 (https://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19)
Was that a longwinded way of saying he doesn't know shit?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 31, 2025, 02:24 PMWas that a longwinded way of saying he doesn't know shit?
Anyone who says "I'm publicly posting on twitter to tell you that I know stuff but I'm not going to say" doesn't, actually, know stuff.
That dude is such a poser.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 31, 2025, 01:28 PMhttps://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19 (https://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1984315302931546585?t=Uat9G6B_ARFb_YuUJxwzIg&s=19)
fuck Bobby...why even bother posting other than to quasi brag you know some shit but not really. He sucked on rabid hog fans years ago and still sucks. Stick to dancing with the stars not football schtick
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 10:35 AMRhett Lashlee's wiki bio says this.
Lashlee played college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Lashlee was a backup quarterback to Matt Jones, from 2002 to 2004 for the Razorbacks.
Since I follow the Razorbacks as much as anyone and don't remember him AT ALL (like, not even a tickle in the back of the brain), I looked up his stats.
2002 – no stats
2003 – 2 GP, 1 passing attempt
2004 – no stats
Does this count as playing college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks 2002-2004?
I think he was like the #3 QB at best.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 10:35 AMRhett Lashlee's wiki bio says this.
Lashlee played college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks. Lashlee was a backup quarterback to Matt Jones, from 2002 to 2004 for the Razorbacks.
Since I follow the Razorbacks as much as anyone and don't remember him AT ALL (like, not even a tickle in the back of the brain), I looked up his stats.
2002 – no stats
2003 – 2 GP, 1 passing attempt
2004 – no stats
Does this count as playing college football for the Arkansas Razorbacks 2002-2004?
He loved the helmet.
Lashlee just signed a mega deal at SMU that makes him one of the 10 highest paid coaches.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 31, 2025, 07:49 PMLashlee just signed a mega deal at SMU that makes him one of the 10 highest paid coaches.
Lol we're getting raises for the SMU coach. Medium-time program we are.
so um, what is Skip Holtz up to these days?
they better hope this season is an anomaly.
arkansas was never going to pay the guy top ten money.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 31, 2025, 07:49 PMLashlee just signed a mega deal at SMU that makes him one of the 10 highest paid coaches.
Stupid move
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 31, 2025, 07:49 PMLashlee just signed a mega deal at SMU that makes him one of the 10 highest paid coaches.
Good
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2025, 12:37 PMWait that name sounds right too.
Was Bland the backup QB who got injured thus requiring Rutledge?
Bland was Quinn Grovey's backup.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 31, 2025, 07:49 PMLashlee just signed a mega deal at SMU that makes him one of the 10 highest paid coaches.
Gus taught him well. Use Arkansas as leverage for a massive deal at your current job.
I didn't want Lashlee anyway, but I think it's telling that a former player, and apparently our #1 pick for Sam's replacement, doesn't want the job. We are going to end up with Bobby due to the fact that no one wants the job. Or we poach Drink from Missouri, which would be hilarious.
arkansas wasn't the only program to show interest in him. and why is it a bad thing that smu overpaid for the guy, especially if you're wanting petrino as coach?
supposedly he told arkansas early on that he didn't want to leave smu right now so it's not like he was the only coach that they are looking at.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 01, 2025, 09:08 AMarkansas wasn't the only program to show interest in him. and why is it a bad thing that smu overpaid for the guy, especially if you're wanting petrino as coach?
supposedly he told arkansas early on that he didn't want to leave smu right now so it's not like he was the only coach that they are looking at.
SMU vastly overpaid. If it takes top 10 money to get him, it's clearly not worth it and best to pass.
SMU will regret paying that much money for a coach. They are like Baylor who struggle to get interest outside of alums. They will never be "the school" for Dallas, even most of their students are mostly tsip, A&M, or fans of big schools from wherever the fuck they grew up. Lashlee's money, nil and program all come from the same pockets. And they don't get big corporate dollars. Until they rate playing in a stadium as big as Allen high school's they will be sucking a mostly dry straw.
I like the adaptability of Silverfield as he works the portal great and molds new teams into contenders each year. His teams play hard.
I like Eric Morris and his offense as he's a leach disciple and he's won everywhere.
I agree with JFB. Gotta be a head coach. We can't be the proving ground for OCs.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 01, 2025, 10:14 AMSMU vastly overpaid. If it takes top 10 money to get him, it's clearly not worth it and best to pass.
I guess it's Dallas money making a statement.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 01, 2025, 10:14 AMSMU vastly overpaid. If it takes top 10 money to get him, it's clearly not worth it and best to pass.
100%. He's not worth the bidding war.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 31, 2025, 08:07 PMStupid move
ain't gonna be the last one
This coaching situation is the perfect setup for "Tulip Bulb Mania" level stupidity.
The head coach is the CEO of the program. I don't think other 9-figure companies pay this much though and all these colleges are not 9-figures. TV makes them seem bigger.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 01, 2025, 10:22 AMI guess it's Dallas money making a statement.
They'll always be 3rd fiddle in Dallas, and ultimately lack the support TCU does on the other side of the metroplex
A few wealthy alums are spending bigly to get them relevant including the ACC membership without TV funds, but ultimately they are still playing games in a largely empty 35K seat stadium. Nobody cares.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 01, 2025, 10:32 AMThey'll always be 3rd fiddle in Dallas, and ultimately lack the support TCU does on the other side of the metroplex
A few wealthy alums are spending bigly to get them relevant including the ACC membership without TV funds, but ultimately they are still playing games in a largely empty 35K seat stadium. Nobody cares.
They should be in North Texas' conference.
Morris at North Texas isn't getting much love. His only slip up was against kinne and Texas State.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 01, 2025, 11:59 AMMorris at North Texas isn't getting much love. His only slip up was against kinne and Texas State.
supposedly he's getting a good look. so is the guy at memfis.
Give me a leach disciple vs a Gus disciple everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
Lashlee is about to be 5-4.
SMU is dumb. That guy had one good year, probably not his players like Sam, and SMU doubled down.
That bum would have been a disaster here, he knows it, and took the safe route by bending over gullible SMU.
BIG bullet dodged for us. I'd rather have Bobby.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 01, 2025, 11:59 AMMorris at North Texas isn't getting much love. His only slip up was against kinne and Texas State.
Didn't USF embarrass them on national television?
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 01, 2025, 12:26 PMDidn't USF embarrass them on national television?
Yeah that was it, I knew it was another coach that was an option
I like the Memphis coach.
This coaching search is going to be a mess nationally. There aren't going to be very many happy fans.
What we don't have at UA is forward thinking. We are reactionary. We have no pipeline and shoot from the hip. I really believe our AD thought Sam was the man. We got lucky with Petrino being here.
If we get anything at all, it'll be John Tyson again. Fletcher wants Bobby so he's out on anything else.
UNT and IW turnarounds were very quick, he's only in year 2 there right?
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 01, 2025, 10:22 AMI guess it's Dallas money making a statement.
every freshman at smu is driving a Range Rover or Mercedes with 10k worth of jewelry on...it tracks
Watching 7-1 UNT vs 7-0 Navy, UNT up by a TD right now
We're going to hire someone like Golesh and he'll flop like Billy Napier did at Florida. Rise and repeat in 4 years, except he'll probably have a single year where he wins 8 games and we give him a 10 year extension.
At this point just give me PJ Fleck and Drake Lindsey next year.
I posted in the game thread but BP knows it's over.
Will be interesting to see who we get. I suspect a good up and comer has no interest in our program.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 01, 2025, 08:53 PMI posted in the game thread but BP knows it's over.
Will be interesting to see who we get. I suspect a good up and comer has no interest in our program.
Sounds like a winner...
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 01, 2025, 08:56 PMSounds like a winner...
It's the truff. Lashlee has already noped out.
Maybe we can get Gundy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 01, 2025, 09:03 PMIt's the truff. Lashlee has already noped out.
Maybe we can get Gundy.
UAB and Kent State are still open so thats a big no for Gundy
We're going to wind up with Dabo!
Quote from: RPL on Nov 01, 2025, 09:43 PMWe're going to wind up with Dabo!
Only if he brings Chad as OC.
Hiring Bobby is not far off from if we had hired John L Smith for the permanent 5 yr gig...but then again that's all we're doing anyway.
I guess it's better he self destructed now than wait until he had landed the job. I think he would have had it with a W but now I think it's over for him and I think he knows it.
I say go all in on Chesney at James Madison
We all knew Bobby needed to win two games at least. Those two are L's. There's no wins left on the schedule. He's not going to be retained and that's fine, even as a fan of him. It sucks that this team is devoid of talent, and maybe not all his fault but it is what is. His HC time is likely done and we have to move on. I was on team Bobby after atm, on fence after aubbie, now back on burn it down mode.
Quote from: razor5396 on Nov 01, 2025, 09:39 PMUAB and Kent State are still open so thats a big no for Gundy
Kent St already gave their interim the gig.
Assuming AU fires Freezus, you have the following jobs open. If Whisky fires Fickell, I'd put them right above us. Same goes for Dabo and Clemson (which is possible).
Penn St
FL
LSU
AU
Arkansas
OSU
UCLA
Va Tech
Let's assume Kiffen stays put. These are the commonly mentioned coaches for openings.
Franklin
Kelly
Napier
Golesh
Sumrall
Morris
Chesney
Jimbo
At best we're the fifth best job with a
pool of hopeful candidates. I think a lot of these schools are gonna be unhappy with their hire.
What happened to Franklin going to VTech? Talking heads on the twitters were acting like it was a done deal just a couple of days ago.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 02, 2025, 08:21 AMWhat happened to Franklin going to VTech? Talking heads on the twitters were acting like it was a done deal just a couple of days ago.
"Things changed"
Hokitorian out...
the names being mentioned for pedo st are guys we were never going to look at anyway. hartline, elko, and jeff brohm. we aren't competing with them for a coach.
auburn hasn't had a winning season since 2019 and and if freeze is fired it will be 4 coaches in the last 7 years. that they are 'above us' is imo, debatable.
it will come down to if the fat cats will put a pot of money together. if that happens, outside of lsu and florida, i like our chances against the rest.
Agree of PSU but I think Auburn is a better job. They've won a title and made it to the title game in the last 15 years. They recruit better year in and year out. Much better local talent pool as well.
Maybe the big named coaches who have been fired don't want to coach any more. Maybe they are tired of the portal fiasco, NIL, and all the other BS they have to deal with in coaching. Give me 53 million and I will go off and live very happily all the rest of my life with hardly any worries. I think we may see people we have never heard of coaching before long. Maybe even some HS coaches hitting the college ranks to make their millions.
The only way anyone will be convinced they can win at Arkansas is IF they know they've got a fat wallet backing their play. Lets be honest a lot of schools will have that. There really isn't anything we offer that other schools can't offer and more plus not stressed as much about recruiting ground.
The in-state talent isn't here. What little there is ends up going elsewhere because we place almost zero interest in it even though historically a lot of that kind of talent has shown to win football games. Admittedly you have to go back to the Petrino/Nutt years since our last drove of in-state talent that was consistently worth a damn.
In a perfect world you would be looking for the coach that can be resourceful...does more with less kind of guy because that's what we're facing. We're fielding a team of basically 40 guys that are probably paid pretty good to lose games. We have to find a way to have more like 60 serviceable players out of 105 or whatever the number is. That means somehow we have to build it up from high school players in a age where that shit doesn't work...AND RETAIN THEM.
Who here thinks Russell, Jackson, and some other younger guys will be on the roster next season? I'd say it's doubtful.
Agree. We are not an attractive program today.
I agree with those who say Bobby wasn't given a fair chance to earn the job for next year. I agree with those who want poetic justice with him coming back after he was wrongly fired. I agree with those who say if he was given a huge NIL budget he could make a lot of noise.
I also think, on a practical level, it's not likely he'll get the job solely because he lost two winnable games in a row. Excuses are what they are, but results matter more, and I think losing vs Auburn and Miss State makes it where Hunter or whoever is making the hire can justify hiring him.
It's not fair but neither was the way the game was officiated last night. We still lost.
We'll probably be lucky to get a sitting G5 head coach.
I thought it was a long shot he gets the job when promoted. Too much stink within the program to hire someone on staff. It was gonna take miraculous effort for him to get it.
That said, everyone else firing their coach is gonna make things interesting. I just don't see a candidate out there I trust can win more than Petrino.
Petrino has stepped into a tough situation this year. They are playing hard but the defense is just not able to keep up unfortunately.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 12:41 PMI thought it was a long shot he gets the job when promoted. Too much stink within the program to hire someone on staff. It was gonna take miraculous effort for him to get it.
That said, everyone else firing their coach is gonna make things interesting. I just don't see a candidate out there I trust can win more than Petrino.
I agree but will be surprised if it happens at this point. If we do end up with him we'll know exactly how this job is perceived by other coaches.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 12:35 PMWe'll probably be lucky to get a sitting G5 head coach.
Disagree with that. I think we could have our pick of ones that aren't hired by the more attractive openings. There may be a few that wouldn't jump based on situation (geography, ties to school etc) but most of those coaches would likely be at least doubling their pay and money talks.
You don't hear much chatter about coordinators as potential candidates. Any worthy options there? There doesn't seem to be many long standing coordinators like there used to be.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 02, 2025, 12:50 PMDisagree with that. I think we could have our pick of ones that aren't hired by the more attractive openings. There may be a few that wouldn't jump based on situation (geography, ties to school etc) but most of those coaches would likely be at least doubling their pay and money talks.
I meant a good one. I know there are plenty of Chads who will take our money.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 12:54 PMYou don't hear much chatter about coordinators as potential candidates. Any worthy options there? There doesn't seem to be many long standing coordinators like there used to be.
There don't seem to be many getting mentioned but I could see some coming into play. I don't see many P4 head coaches looking to move this time around, especially if they have stable NIL. So then you're looking at P4 coordinators if you don't want to go the G5 route.
Lane is a good example. At this point, I don't see him leaving unless it's for the Dolphins. There's no reason to leave.
Also, the Gruden smoke sure has died out. Still wouldn't be surprised if someone took a shot with him. Belichick probably takes a lot of the blame there.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 01:00 PMThere don't seem to be many getting mentioned but I could see some coming into play. I don't see many P4 head coaches looking to move this time around, especially if they have stable NIL. So then you're looking at P4 coordinators if you don't want to go the G5 route.
Lane is a good example. At this point, I don't see him leaving unless it's for the Dolphins. There's no reason to leave.
OM can't afford to pay anything like say, Texas, can. Particularly if you're looking at NIL pool.
I also think there's only so much a guy like Lane can stand in a little place like Oxford. Baton Rouge/New Orleans would be better, for sure, but not as much as Austin would be. I just don't think LSU has the cash
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 12:54 PMYou don't hear much chatter about coordinators as potential candidates. Any worthy options there? There doesn't seem to be many long standing coordinators like there used to be.
the foundation plane was in eugene earlier in the week. could have had nothing to do with the search, but will stein?
Had a thought this morning that we were going to hire Kliff Kingsbury. That would go over like a lead balloon.
At least Bobby had great results at UL before the NFL hired him/we scooped him up.
Kliff was a perpetual .500 coach who escaped to the NFL at a time when "hot young OCs was the fad," flamed out, and is looking to rehab his reputation.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:06 PMOM can't afford to pay anything like say, Texas, can. Particularly if you're looking at NIL pool.
I also think there's only so much a guy like Lane can stand in a little place like Oxford. Baton Rouge/New Orleans would be better, for sure, but not as much as Austin would be. I just don't think LSU has the cash
Well yes, but Texas and Ohio State are in a different tier. Everyone would go there but neither are firing their coaches this year.
We could do worse than Kingsbury. He's still far from a sure thing.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 01:21 PMWe could do worse than Kingsbury. He's still far from a sure thing.
He's been a better OC than HC, but who knows.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 01:19 PMWell yes, but Texas and Ohio State are in a different tier. Everyone would go there but neither are firing their coaches this year.
Not so sure about Texas, they're playing better now. If they finish with 4 losses don't count it staying open out.
Penn St is a top 10 job for sure, maybe top 5. Living there would suck.
Kingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.
I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 01:08 PMthe foundation plane was in eugene earlier in the week. could have had nothing to do with the search, but will stein?
We could probably do worse.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.
I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.
Well put, and same.
We could do worse than Kingsbury, but I'd prefer the 4 you listed ahead of him.
I think the dude at North Texas is probably going to end up getting a very hard look. The deal with a guy like him is what kind of staff can he surround himself with?
Whatever happened to that new hotness assistant at LSU and New Orleans "Brady?" that invented Joe Burrow? I assume once that was over his genius faded fast.
Also can we get Ed O a steady supply of cheerleader moms and make him DL coach?
One thing about the UNT coach (Morris, FFS, unlucky bastard) is even though he turned around Incarnate Word and UNT in just a year he wasn't long either place. Quick turnarounds are a plus but not much track record as a head coach. Reflected in his aggregate record.
He took a walk on QB that didn't start HS to #2 in the nation in passing - was it him or dumb luck the kid walked on to his team?
I guess it's a plus he's from Texas and besides playing under Leach he coached at Houston, Wash St, and Texas Tech which are big enough programs he's been around coaching circles enough to have assistant contacts. He's young.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.
I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.
I agree with this. I'd also add Chesney at JMU to the list above. Whoever it is NIL and assistant coach salary pool will be critical. Need to get Chicken Man, Walmart and some other big boosters to fill the pot if we want to be successful.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.
I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.
Tulane coach Sumrall is a hard no for me. His OC is Craddock, the guy in charge of implementing and calling plays for the 30% of Chad's offense that we got to see. He's calling plays in a similar fashion in his current job. Hiring that guy for anything not involving a mop or bucket is a sign of a lack of judgment.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 02:17 PMTulane coach Sumrall is a hard no for me. His OC is Craddock, the guy in charge of implementing and calling plays for the 30% of Chad's offense that we got to see. He's calling plays in a similar fashion in his current job. Hiring that guy for anything not involving a mop or bucket is a sign of a lack of judgment.
This is a reasonable take, he's the lowest of those 4 for me (almost didn't include him).
However, clearly some Morris staff were much better than we realized under better leadership.
I love the Leach offense, always have. Huge plus for Morris from UNT.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 02:20 PMThis is a reasonable take, he's the lowest of those 4 for me (almost didn't include him).
However, clearly some Morris staff were much better than we realized under better leadership.
I love the Leach offense, always have. Huge plus for Morris from UNT.
Traylor is the only one off that staff who should ever even be considered for a job here, and we would have to get turned down by a lot of others before I'd want to hire him.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 02:25 PMTraylor is the only one off that staff who should ever even be considered for a job here, and we would have to get turned down by a lot of others before I'd want to hire him.
The obvious one I was referring to, and I prefer he's not on the list
If you are a king in a smaller conference, winning championships and going to bowls nearly every year, do you really want to give that up to go to a bottom feeder in the toughest conference in the nation to try and rebuild a program? There is a lot to think about, whoever we over the job to. Now, if you are at present, unemployed, you would probably take most opportunities offered. Especially, if you saw you were going to get paid, whether you suck or not. I have no idea who we should offer. But remember, a lot of the coaches being mentioned were once hot commodities. Now, you don't hear much about them or they have been fired because they aren't winning NOW.
The answer to that is, yes, because nobody really stays at a Memphis or UNT.
The question is whether you stay longer and run up more of a track record to make a bigger jump when the time comes.
That being said, we've seen Indiana, Vandy, Missouri, schools with minimal success historically winning just fine right now, perhaps the transfer and NIL rules have made the playing field more even, not less.
Wilson Mathews was wise saying never hire a rookie head coach. A lot of great coordinators suck at head coaching; we've been thru that with Sam.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 03:39 PMThe answer to that is, yes, because nobody really stays at a Memphis or UNT.
The question is whether you stay longer and run up more of a track record to make a bigger jump when the time comes.
That being said, we've seen Indiana, Vandy, Missouri, schools with minimal success historically winning just fine right now, perhaps the transfer and NIL rules have made the playing field more even, not less.
The Memphis coach was a line coach before becoming the head coach. Several here have stated they want a head coach, not a position coach. Now, the Memphis coach has been there since 2020 and is winning. But, we are talking about Memphis. I think the scholarship deal years ago (either reduction or something else, I can't remember) evened the field some also. With NIL and the portal, I think the field has not been leveled much. You can now buy the best players and most teams don't have the money to do that.
A better question may be, what players are going to want to come here? We better get a decent coach and have a butt load of NIL money to hand out. If not, we will probably field a worse team than we saw this year.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 02, 2025, 04:08 PMA better question may be, what players are going to want to come here? We better get a decent coach and have a butt load of NIL money to hand out. If not, we will probably field a worse team than we saw this year.
that's true for everyone outside of a few teams. indiana, texas tech are two that shows it can be done easily.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 02, 2025, 03:53 PMThe Memphis coach was a line coach before becoming the head coach. Several here have stated they want a head coach, not a position coach.
I do feel like I just saw that movie. It was not good.
this is his 7th season as a hc.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 04:41 PMQuote from: vegashog (https://www.woopig.org/index.php?msg=215145) on 11/2/2025, 4:41:50 PM
this is his 7th season as a hc.
This is his 6th season. He coached one game in 2019 and lost.
Also, "Silverfield has two dogs, Sadee and Cooper, and is married to lobbyist and Memphis native Katie VanLandingham."
No way we can hire a coach whose wife has a name like that.
Exit: Actually, I think the Wikipedia's be wrong about who his wife be.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 02, 2025, 05:07 PMThis is his 6th season. He coached one game in 2019 and lost.
Also, "Silverfield has two dogs, Sadee and Cooper, and is married to lobbyist and Memphis native Katie VanLandingham."
No way we can hire a coach whose wife has a name like that.
That name screams...never moving to NWA.
Quote from: animal on Nov 02, 2025, 05:15 PMThat name screams...never moving to NWA.
To me it screams "perfect for Fayetteville, but do NOT make me venture into the rest of Arkansas"
Quote from: animal on Nov 02, 2025, 05:15 PMThat name screams...never moving to NWA.
You can't hire a football coach whose wife won't take his last name. But, I think Wiki is wrong about who his wife is.
Honestly, I think Silverfield may be a bit too hot for our job unless he loses a few more.
After treading water a few years, he's 10-3, 11-2, and now 8-1. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Auburn gave him a look.
I think our pool is basically Morris, Sumrall, Golesh, Silverfield, and (hopefully) Chesney.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 05:23 PMHonestly, I think Silverfield may be a bit too hot for our job unless he loses a few more.
After treading water a few years, he's 10-3, 11-2, and now 8-1. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Auburn gave him a look.
I think our pool is basically Morris, Sumrall, Golesh, Silverfield, and (hopefully) Chesney.
Of that group I would prefer Chesney or Silverfield. On the Staples/Dellenger podcast last week they were saying that Penn State would be crazy not to hire Chesney now but he's not a big enough name for them. He's from the northeast so he may use us as a stepping stone but who fucking cares.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 05:37 PMOf that group I would prefer Chesney or Silverfield. On the Staples/Dellenger podcast last week they were saying that Penn State would be crazy not to hire Chesney now but he's not a big enough name for them. He's from the northeast so he may use us as a stepping stone but who fucking cares.
At this point I'm fine with a coach using us as a stepping stone because it'll have meant he had success here.
There's always the chance they could fall in love with the place. Ole Miss was a stepping stone for Kiffin but he still hasn't gone anywhere.
Any coach we might want would be a huge success at another school but will flop horribly as coach here.
Doesn't matter the coach.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 05:23 PMHonestly, I think Silverfield may be a bit too hot for our job unless he loses a few more.
After treading water a few years, he's 10-3, 11-2, and now 8-1. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Auburn gave him a look.
I think our pool is basically Morris, Sumrall, Golesh, Silverfield, and (hopefully) Chesney.
Every time I see the name "Morris", I throw up a little.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 02, 2025, 05:16 PMTo me it screams "perfect for Fayetteville, but do NOT make me venture into the rest of Arkansas"
He currently lives in Memphis, just saying. I know a vanlandingham over here but I have no doubt they are not related. But I believe his wife is from Memphis so there's that. I bet he still wins the "get out of Memphis" argument. I don't dislike him but I think we can do better and I know we can do worse. I just like Bobby's fire. I think he'd get bent over here. We need someone with a serious chip on their shoulder.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 02, 2025, 06:16 PMEvery time I see the name "Morris", I throw up a little.
Morris gets disqualified due to Chad just like BP gets disqualified thanks to Sam's shitty coaching and T Will's shittier rap videos. Life just isn't fair some times.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 02, 2025, 05:07 PMVanLandingham."
Sounds like a horse I have bet on at Oaklawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanlandingham
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 04:41 PMthis is his 7th season as a hc.
It him or Petrino for me. He won pretty big with Cornrows players, then fell off for 2 years, rebuilt and is 29-6 the last 2 seasons and this year so far.
silverfield had 70 transfers this season. knows a little about building a team quickly.
and his wife's last name is the same as his, and she's a doctor. someone be fucking with wiki.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 02, 2025, 05:07 PMAlso, "Silverfield has two dogs, Sadee and Cooper, and is married to lobbyist and Memphis native Katie VanLandingham."
No way we can hire a coach whose wife has a name like that.
How about Manfrenjensenden?
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 02, 2025, 06:15 PMAny coach we might want would be a huge success at another school but will flop horribly as coach here.
Doesn't matter the coach.
I will always wonder how Kiffin would've worked out here.
Quote from: TC on Nov 02, 2025, 06:59 PMI will always wonder how Kiffin would've worked out here.
"I will always wonder how [insert coach we didn't hire who went on to have success elsewhere] would've worked out here" is tale as old as time for Arkansas football.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 07:22 PM"I will always wonder how [insert coach we didn't hire who went on to have success elsewhere] would've worked out here" is tale as old as time for Arkansas football.
Was about to post the same thing. The number of coaches who had connections to the program or state and who went on to win hugly is impressive.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 06:12 PMAt this point I'm fine with a coach using us as a stepping stone because it'll have meant he had success here.
There's always the chance they could fall in love with the place. Ole Miss was a stepping stone for Kiffin but he still hasn't gone anywhere.
Excellent point. We still have to go all the way back to Nutt to find a coach who went directly somewhere else, and back to Hatfield who went directly of his own volition (and even THAT was sketchy).
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 02, 2025, 06:43 PMIt him or Petrino for me. He won pretty big with Cornrows players, then fell off for 2 years, rebuilt and is 29-6 the last 2 seasons and this year so far.
I think Petrino would be better. Of all the G5's being mentioned, I think he'd be much better over the next 3-5 years than any of those.
I'd love to see the vaunted glued in HTL's list of candidates that are way higher than him. But we all know that is just a fake persona and that he knows nothing.
Either way, I'd just love to see our athletic department actually vet viable candidates instead of taking recommendations from the likes of Jerry jones and Gustavo malazan and have some sort of plan for the future.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 02, 2025, 07:34 PMExcellent point. We still have to go all the way back to Nutt to find a coach who went directly somewhere else, and back to Hatfield who went directly of his own volition (and even THAT was sketchy).
We should be grateful to be used as a stepping stone at this point. That's not a knock on us, but you'd have to be uber successful to have success here and be entertained for a bigger job. You're talking maybe 20 schools at most.
per biddy fwiw:
four p4 hc coaches 'very interested', two from b10, two from acc. judging from his comments a couple of days ago, one of the b10 guys is franklin. looking at 6 g5 guys, and two from the nfl (not hc). bp still in it but that was before yesterday's game.
off topic, someone told him there is some 'concern' about dvh. none other than porkryan confirmed saying he's not happy about the settlement split.
also cal is owed a 'loyalty bonus' of $10 million after five years and that's being paid by stephens.
again, take it fwiw.
Cool, but recent coaching searches have taught me not to trust a word from any of those slapdicks.
Kinda need to know more about DVH though. Or maybe someone please tell me there's another DVH that I'm not familiar with.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 07:22 PM"I will always wonder how [insert coach we didn't hire who went on to have success elsewhere] would've worked out here" is tale as old as time for Arkansas football.
So what's your point? That it's a fruitless exercise? Thanks for that riveting information, I guess.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 02, 2025, 08:06 PMCool, but recent coaching searches have taught me not to trust a word from any of those slapdicks.
Kinda need to know more about DVH though. Or maybe someone please tell me there's another DVH that I'm not familiar with.
Yeah. What is the settlement split?
Quote from: TC on Nov 02, 2025, 08:06 PMSo what's your point? That it's a fruitless exercise? Thanks for that riveting information, I guess.
I wasn't being an asshole. Hiring the wrong coach and seeing the right guy go somewhere else and win while we play with our food for a few years is woven into the fabric of the DNA of our football program and Kiffin is the latest in a long string of guys we could have had but stomped on our dicks like we always do.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 07:57 PMper biddy fwiw:
four p4 hc coaches 'very interested', two from b10, two from acc. judging from his comments a couple of days ago, one of the b10 guys is franklin. looking at 6 g5 guys, and two from the nfl (not hc). bp still in it but that was before yesterday's game.
The Big Ten coaches are no doubt Franklin and Odom. Odom probably would've had the inside track if he'd stayed at UNLV and kept winning instead of jumping to Purdue where he'll likely finish 2-10 this year.
The ACC coaches are a bit of a head scratcher. Lashlee can't be one of them since he reportedly already turned us down and signed an extension at SMU. Maybe Cornrows is trying to get a landing spot for when he gets canned at FSU? Probably also someone also like Doeren or Wilcox trying to get out of town in the same manner.
The G5 guys are probably the usual suspects of Golesh, Sumrall, Morris, Silverfield, Chesney, though not sure who the 6th is. Maybe Kinne or Mullen.
Wouldn't be shocked if one of the NFL guys was Kingsbury.
I think Petrino's totally out of it unless we inexplicably beat Texas.
I'm just prepared to be whelmed
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 02, 2025, 07:35 PMI think Petrino would be better. Of all the G5's being mentioned, I think he'd be much better over the next 3-5 years than any of those.
I love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 02, 2025, 08:10 PMYeah. What is the settlement split?
Revenue sharing
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 08:38 PMRevenue sharing
What was DVH upset about? The percentage allocated to baseball?
I'm sure Bobby wouldn't stay as OC if he doesnt get the gig, but he'd be a great OC for Odom
We no doubt have had Big 10 coaches write letters.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 08:39 PMWhat was DVH upset about? The percentage allocated to baseball?
yes.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 08:38 PMI love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.
I don't disagree, but long term coaches may just be a thing of the past, except for your top tier jobs.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 08:38 PMI love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.
I think the term "bridge coach" is a coping term for justifying hiring Pittman.
No one takes a job for short term unless it is an interim coach for a coach that has been fired,quit, or died at some point unexpectedly during or before the season.
Joe Kines, John L Smith, Barry Luney, and BMFP are interim coaches. Sam was hired to be the head coach to bring about something consistent and long term.
I have my speculation to why we ended up with Sam from all the things said on here, but we hired him for a different direction that Chad was leading us on. He shouldn't have been hired that's for damn sure. He looked like he knew what he was with the help of Odom, Briles, and Morris's recruits. He was hired on the cheap and it screwed us when no one was holding his hand.
Hiring a coach for a "bridge" is retarded other than filling a void for immediate needs.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 08:38 PMI love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.
For me, the biggest benefit of hiring Petrino is that he'll do well and prove that it can be done here. Sort of like Muss in basketball.
"Well" for us is a criminally low bar now. Stack Liberty Bowl commemorative VHS tapes and coach for the next 5 years. Even if Bobby does far better than that does he want to be HC for longer than 5 more years?
Good thing with NIL and the current portal is that we might avoid the customary reset that seems to follow BMFP tenures.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 02, 2025, 10:41 PM"Well" for us is a criminally low bar now. Stack Liberty Bowl commemorative VHS tapes and coach for the next 5 years. Even if Bobby does far better than that does he want to be HC for longer than 5 more years?
Good thing with NIL and the current portal is that we might avoid the customary reset that seems to follow BMFP tenures.
Not a single kind word from you regarding Larry! I'm disappointed.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 02, 2025, 08:41 PMI'm sure Bobby wouldn't stay as OC if he doesnt get the gig, but he'd be a great OC for Odom
He was for like 3 or 4 days.
PJ Fleck is the other B10 coach.
Lindseys are pushing for him. John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 02, 2025, 06:39 PMSounds like a horse I have bet on at Oaklawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanlandingham
My grandfather had a chance to co-own that horse and turned it down.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 11:49 PMPJ Fleck is the other B10 coach.
Lindseys are pushing for him. John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.
A conflict of interest hire. What could go wrong?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 11:49 PMPJ Fleck is the other B10 coach.
Lindseys are pushing for him. John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.
I was wondering about Fleck. Maybe he's looking for a new home since he's been at Minnesota for almost a decade, but who knows.
I find his slogans ("row the boat" is dumb FWIW) and coach-isms to be corny, but of course our fans would eat it up because we literally can't help ourselves.
We could do a lot worse (and probably will). Him and Lindsey as a package deal would be nice.
With Freeze out at Auburn there are two many openings and not enough qualified candidates. Arkansas is way down the list of schools coaches will consider. If we go shopping we will end up with another Pittman or worse. Hire Bobby now. He is a proven quantity at Arkansas and I don't see him as a bridge coach, I can see him finishing his career at Arkansas. You can't judge him on this season with the dumpster fire of a roster we have. He's ours for the taking. Plus he'll likely come at a price that won't break the bank. HY needs to grow a set, tell the big money to fuck off, and make the hire.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 03, 2025, 06:01 AMWith Freeze out at Auburn there are two many openings and not enough qualified candidates. Arkansas is way down the list of schools coaches will consider. If we go shopping we will end up with another Pittman or worse. Hire Bobby now. He is a proven quantity at Arkansas and I don't see him as a bridge coach, I can see him finishing his career at Arkansas. You can't judge him on this season with the dumpster fire of a roster we have. He's ours for the taking. Plus he'll likely come at a price that won't break the bank. HY needs to grow a set, tell the big money to fuck off, and make the hire.
Yep. Build in incentives and milestones for improvement just like our employers do, and if he doesn't meet them then you move towards replacement. No emotion or hand wringing. Arkansas is not getting a better candidate that
1.wants the job
2.will do it for whatever pay is appropriate
You're not getting anybody else without a bazillion dollar buyout due to the dumpster fire the program is and has been for 10 years. People don't like Bobby, so what. Ain't no young bucks clamoring to destroy their resume coaching here.
In Arkansas he'd have to convert that slogan to "Row your Inner-tube" or something to that measure. I'm okay with Fleck...but lets not go pretending that's a homerun hire. He hasn't lit the world on fire in the Big 10 and Minnesota is probably a fairly comparable program to Arkansas.
Also hiring a coach on the basis of somebodies kid who plays QB for somebody else but that somebody else may come with the kid to Arkansas is incredibly thin. But right on brand for this era of college athletics
I think the positive for Fleck is he's only 44 years old so presumably he's still got a lot of good years left in the tank and he's probably ready to make a move...that may or may not be to Arkansas. Not exactly a "Bert" resume but not far off absent some rose bowl appearances.
Here's another little thing I think we can maybe jot down...there is a relationship between Fleck and Jerry Kill. Kill will no doubt be credited greatly for the success of Vandy and will probably be a hot commodity as a off-field assistant/consultant. Kill went to college up in Kansas maybe still has some roots in the area and maybe that's not so far from NWA...
You want a program fixer...you gotta go get Jerry Kill. If it weren't for health issues he'd probably be a top 5 coach in the nation.
People are going to shit on this but Justin Fuente is a analyst at Indiana and like Kill probably has a little bit to do with their success...as we know he helped Memphis become the program it is today propelling himself, Cornrows, and perhaps soon Silverfield into P4 jobs. He would be another one of those guys you get that "knows the ground"...not advocating either Kill or Fuente for anything more than assistant/analyst positions but I think this is how you do it...I think you have to spend some real money on the back-end of the program on the hopes that it's going to get you results later on. Stop hiring 27 year old high school assistants to be your scouting department.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 04:18 PMthat's true for everyone outside of a few teams. indiana, texas tech are two that shows it can be done easily.
If Ole Miss can get players to move to little old remote Oxford, MS to play in that little stadium, we certainly can.
Vandy and Mizzou are doing well. Indiana and Tech are great examples.
Some of the schools with the biggest advantages don't seem to be doing all that well
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 02, 2025, 07:35 PMI think Petrino would be better. Of all the G5's being mentioned, I think he'd be much better over the next 3-5 years than any of those.
I'd love to see the vaunted glued in HTL's list of candidates that are way higher than him. But we all know that is just a fake persona and that he knows nothing.
Either way, I'd just love to see our athletic department actually vet viable candidates instead of taking recommendations from the likes of Jerry jones and Gustavo malazan and have some sort of plan for the future.
Nothing!
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 03, 2025, 07:07 AMIf Ole Miss can get players to move to little old remote Oxford, MS to play in that little stadium, we certainly can.
Arkasnas fans amuse me wtih their take on Ole Miss. First, Oxford is just as nice of a town as Fayetteville. Honestly, it may be a little nicer. But I acknowledge that is opinion and one of those agree to disagree thangs.
The fact of the matter is Mississippi is 36% Black/55% white while Arkansas is 15% black/71% White.
Lafayette County MS, home to Oxford, is 23% black while Washington County AR, home to Fayetteville, is 2%.
As much as we might all agree that Memphis sucks, it is still 45 minutes away from Oxford. The closest city that anyone in Fayetteville, much less black kids, wants to visit is hours away.
Ole Miss has a shit ton of built in advantage when compared to Arkansas and the idea that Ole Miss' football program should never be better than Arkansas is crazy to me.
Oxford is not as nice as NWA. That's a bizarre take. Ole Miss does a much better job of branding though.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 02, 2025, 08:39 PMWhat was DVH upset about? The percentage allocated to baseball?
I suspect Tennessee is whispering in DVH's ear, "
your girl Arkansas doesn't love and respect you like I will. Me love you long, long time."
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 03, 2025, 07:53 AMArkasnas fans amuse me wtih their take on Ole Miss. First, Oxford is just as nice of a town as Fayetteville. Honestly, it may be a little nicer. But I acknowledge that is opinion and one of those agree to disagree thangs.
The fact of the matter is Mississippi is 36% Black/55% white while Arkansas is 15% black/71% White.
Lafayette County MS, home to Oxford, is 23% black while Washington County AR, home to Fayetteville, is 2%.
As much as we might all agree that Memphis sucks, it is still 45 minutes away from Oxford. The closest city that anyone in Fayetteville, much less black kids, wants to visit is hours away.
Ole Miss has a shit ton of built in advantage when compared to Arkansas and the idea that Ole Miss' football program should never be better than Arkansas is crazy to me.
Oxford is like what Magnolia would be if SAU was in the SEC (or other major conference). Or maybe Arkadelphia if Henderson/OBU were major colleges.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 03, 2025, 08:31 AMOxford is like what Magnolia would be if SAU was in the SEC (or other major conference). Or maybe Arkadelphia if Henderson/OBU were major colleges.
Yeah, I've made the Magnolia comparison a lot.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 03, 2025, 07:53 AMArkasnas fans amuse me wtih their take on Ole Miss. First, Oxford is just as nice of a town as Fayetteville. Honestly, it may be a little nicer. But I acknowledge that is opinion and one of those agree to disagree thangs.
The fact of the matter is Mississippi is 36% Black/55% white while Arkansas is 15% black/71% White.
Lafayette County MS, home to Oxford, is 23% black while Washington County AR, home to Fayetteville, is 2%.
As much as we might all agree that Memphis sucks, it is still 45 minutes away from Oxford. The closest city that anyone in Fayetteville, much less black kids, wants to visit is hours away.
Ole Miss has a shit ton of built in advantage when compared to Arkansas and the idea that Ole Miss' football program should never be better than Arkansas is crazy to me.
Oxford is a nice little town and a FANTASTIC place for a kid that wants to join a frat and chase tail for 4 years
But for a black kid that grew up in DFW, it's just about the end of the world. Starkville is worse, sure.
NWA at least has an airport you can fly into, and Lafayette Co is about 1/5 the population of Washington Co alone but Fayetteville still feels like a tiny place to some inner city kids as well.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 02, 2025, 06:15 PMAny coach we might want would be a huge success at another school but will flop horribly as coach here.
Doesn't matter the coach.
This is the way of the Razorbacks
Quote from: Guardrail on Nov 03, 2025, 06:26 AMYep. Build in incentives and milestones for improvement just like our employers do, and if he doesn't meet them then you move towards replacement. No emotion or hand wringing. Arkansas is not getting a better candidate that
1.wants the job
2.will do it for whatever pay is appropriate
You're not getting anybody else without a bazillion dollar buyout due to the dumpster fire the program is and has been for 10 years. People don't like Bobby, so what. Ain't no young bucks clamoring to destroy their resume coaching here.
This is a really good opportunity to structure a different type of contract. Get rid of all of the buyout stuff on both sides. Start with a decent base pay and add incentives up to $12 million for a national championship. Petrino would jump on it.
My criteria for the next coach:
1. The coach that can raise the most NIL money (has the most deep pocket guys behind him). Period.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 03, 2025, 08:54 AMThis is a really good opportunity to structure a different type of contract. Get rid of all of the buyout stuff on both sides. Start with a decent base pay and add incentives up to $12 million for a national championship. Petrino would jump on it.
Petrino would, but pretty much anyone else in demand won't. Why are you going to take a job at Arkansas with a jacked up contract when other comparable schools will just throw money at you?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 03, 2025, 09:02 AMPetrino would, but pretty much anyone else in demand won't. Why are you going to take a job at Arkansas with a jacked up contract when other comparable schools will just throw money at you?
I think it's generally understood (or should be) that Petrino is quite literally the only coach worth a shit who would agree to such a contract.
Nobody else is taking this job with a non-standard contract, especially not in a world where a guy like Billy Napier signed for $7-8M a year out of ULL.
Here's hoping Yurachek doesn't try to play hardball again.
guessing joe brady is the other nfl non-hc interested. he was the oc at lsu when they had burrow, jefferson, and chase
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 03, 2025, 09:02 AMPetrino would, but pretty much anyone else in demand won't. Why are you going to take a job at Arkansas with a jacked up contract when other comparable schools will just throw money at you?
I'm sure no other big name would.
So do we think this coaching carousel is the new normal or is this year a one off?
We may be left in a spot where we use Petrino to stable this ship, and wait for a less crowded coaching search next year if we want to make a flashy hire.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 03, 2025, 09:05 AMI think it's generally understood (or should be) that Petrino is quite literally the only coach worth a shit who would agree to such a contract.
Nobody else is taking this job with a non-standard contract, especially not in a world where a guy like Billy Napier signed for $7-8M a year out of ULL.
Here's hoping Yurachek doesn't try to play hardball again.
Yurichek hired Sam without discussing salary. Then Sam hired Jimmy sexton and got his ass tied into a knot. Sexton will fuck him royally again.
Give Bobby a 3 year deal at the sec avg, with lots of incentives. Extend a year for hitting 8 not 500 ball
No need to routinely extend a coach these days with the portal.
No one should be mentioning Petrino at this point.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 03, 2025, 09:08 AMguessing joe brady is the other nfl non-hc interested. he was the oc at lsu when they had burrow, jefferson, and chase
So the Big10 coaches are Franklin and Fleck but who the hell are the 2 ACC? Fran Brown? Manny Diaz? None of them make sense. Norvell would obviously love to escape and reset but I don't see that happening.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 03, 2025, 10:28 AMSo the Big10 coaches are Franklin and Fleck but who the hell are the 2 ACC? Fran Brown? Manny Diaz? None of them make sense. Norvell would obviously love to escape and reset but I don't see that happening.
Knowing Arkansas, one of the Big 10 coaches is probably Locksley.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 03, 2025, 10:39 AMKnowing Arkansas, one of the Big 10 coaches is probably Locksley.
Is that Robin of Locksley?
Quote from: arreferee on Nov 03, 2025, 10:43 AMIs that Robin of Locksley?
I'm sure I'm missing a joke, but I was referring to the Maryland coach.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 03, 2025, 10:47 AMI'm sure I'm missing a joke, but I was referring to the Maryland coach.
Yeah...pretty bad joke probably. It was just the first thing I thought of when I saw Locksley.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 03, 2025, 10:28 AMSo the Big10 coaches are Franklin and Fleck but who the hell are the 2 ACC? Fran Brown? Manny Diaz? None of them make sense. Norvell would obviously love to escape and reset but I don't see that happening.
Was wondering the same.
Lashlee isn't one since he already noped out and signed an extension at SMU. Guys like Cristobal, Key, Belichick, Dabo (probably), Brohm, and the two interims are out.
None of the other names — in the realm of feasibility, at least — are intriguing. I don't want guys like Cornrows, Wilcox, or Doeren who are getting the jump on getting fired and looking for a landing spot.
I also don't want guys like Tony Elliott who treaded water for years and are suddenly having one year of success, or the Fran Brown/Bill O'Brien types who won last year and suck this year.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 03, 2025, 11:04 AMWas wondering the same.
Lashlee isn't one since he already noped out and signed an extension at SMU. Guys like Cristobal, Key, Belichick, Dabo (probably), Brohm, and the two interims are out.
None of the other names — in the realm of feasibility, at least — are intriguing. I don't want guys like Cornrows, Wilcox, or Doeren who are getting the jump on getting fired and looking for a landing spot.
I also don't want guys like Tony Elliott who treaded water for years and are suddenly having one year of success, or the Fran Brown/Bill O'Brien types who won last year and suck this year.
Has Rhett actually signed the extension, or just agreed to it verbally? That could make a difference.
Other than Brohm or Key, neither of whom are coming here, Lashlee is the only ACC coach I'd even consider.
Quote from: arreferee on Nov 03, 2025, 10:58 AMYeah...pretty bad joke probably. It was just the first thing I thought of when I saw Locksley.
It was a good joke.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 03, 2025, 11:08 AMHas Rhett actually signed the extension, or just agreed to it verbally? That could make a difference.
Other than Brohm or Key, neither of whom are coming here, Lashlee is the only ACC coach I'd even consider.
Exactly. Brohm and Key are the only 2 we should want but neither make sense from their end. I suppose one could be Dabo if he's really that fed up with Clemson but his disdain for the portal makes him a really hard sell.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 03, 2025, 08:17 AMI suspect Tennessee is whispering in DVH's ear, "your girl Arkansas doesn't love and respect you like I will. Me love you long, long time."
What would they be whispering to him about, they have their Vitello replacement already.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 03, 2025, 08:37 AMYeah, I've made the Magnolia comparison a lot.
Hell I like Magnolia...may retire there
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 10:28 AMNo one should be mentioning Petrino at this point.
All this talk from so many wanting Petrino has to be killing you.
Quote from: TC on Nov 03, 2025, 11:43 AMAll this talk from so many wanting Petrino has to be killing you.
Doesn't bother me. Fourth dumbest fanbase and all.
I'm back to wanting Bobby.
Give it to Bobby.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 11:49 AMDoesn't bother me. Fourth dumbest fanbase and all.
I'm not disagreeing with you there, but the fan base didn't hire Chad Morris and Sam Pittman, nor give Pittman an insane, 1-sided contract.
You'll come around once he gets us back to winning.
Quote from: TC on Nov 03, 2025, 12:08 PMI'm not disagreeing with you there, but the fan base didn't hire Chad Morris and Sam Pittman, nor give Pittman an insane, 1-sided contract.
You'll come around once he gets us back to winning.
Except the NIL coffers will be bare and our assistants will suck. That's not a great recipe for winning.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 12:20 PMExcept the NIL coffers will be bare and our assistants will suck. That's not a great recipe for winning.
Depends on how much Frank Fletcher can talk the others into putting in.
He's even a bigger fan of Bobby than I am.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 12:20 PMExcept the NIL coffers will be bare and our assistants will suck. That's not a great recipe for winning.
That really isn't the point. We have to exorcize the demon that was stripped from us in 2012 before we can recover.
There's a lot that shit ass Razorback administration has to make amends for before we can move forward.
They created this monster in 2012 and nobody will tell me different.
If they don't hire Petrino they will lose support too. I know that for a fact.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 03, 2025, 12:25 PMDepends on how much Frank Fletcher can talk the others into putting in.
He's even a bigger fan of Bobby than I am.
Also,I know a prominent foundation member who's all in, even moreso after Saturday night.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 07:57 PMper biddy fwiw:
four p4 hc coaches 'very interested', two from b10, two from acc. judging from his comments a couple of days ago, one of the b10 guys is franklin. looking at 6 g5 guys, and two from the nfl (not hc). bp still in it but that was before yesterday's game.
off topic, someone told him there is some 'concern' about dvh. none other than porkryan confirmed saying he's not happy about the settlement split.
also cal is owed a 'loyalty bonus' of $10 million after five years and that's being paid by stephens.
again, take it fwiw.
The Big10 coaches are: Bielema and Odom
The ACC coaches are: Belichik and Norvell
The NFL coaches are: Carroll and Glenn
Quote from: red death on Nov 03, 2025, 12:28 PMAlso,I know a prominent foundation member who's all in, even moreso after Saturday night.
I don't know man. HTL says he knows everyone in Fayetteville and BP isn't in the top 5 on anyone's list.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 03, 2025, 01:10 PMI don't know man. HTL says he knows everyone in Fayetteville and BP isn't in the top 5 on anyone's list.
Just the movers and shakers. Cmon man get it right.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 03, 2025, 12:34 PMThe Big10 coaches are: Bielema and Odom
The ACC coaches are: Belichik and Norvell
The NFL coaches are: Carroll and Glenn
Gross
Quote from: red death on Nov 03, 2025, 12:26 PMThat really isn't the point. We have to exorcize the demon that was stripped from us in 2012 before we can recover.
There's a lot that shit ass Razorback administration has to make amends for before we can move forward.
They created this monster in 2012 and nobody will tell me different.
If they don't hire Petrino they will lose support too. I know that for a fact.
What a dumb post.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 03, 2025, 12:25 PMDepends on how much Frank Fletcher can talk the others into putting in.
He's even a bigger fan of Bobby than I am.
He's probably as good at picking coaches as he is horses.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 03, 2025, 01:13 PMJust the movers and shakers. Cmon man get it right.
I believe the term you are looking for is, "thumpers." He knows a lot of "thumpers" who are "glued in."
Quote from: TC on Nov 03, 2025, 01:54 PMI believe the term you are looking for is, "thumpers." He knows a lot of "thumpers" who are "glued in."
It's not Green's fault!
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 03, 2025, 11:24 AMI suppose one could be Dabo if he's really that fed up with Clemson but his disdain for the portal makes him a really hard sell.
Would this be a similar hire to Calipari (historically speaking)? He's been very successful at his current job. He's won a couple of national championships. His stock has soured at his current school, maybe he's overstayed his welcome.
I'll say this: If PJ Fleck's record over the past five or so years (2020-2025) was his record as coach here, no one would be calling for his firing.
3-4 in 2020 - covid
8-4 in 2021 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
8-4 in 2022 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
5-7 in 2023 followed by a bowl win (6-7) - odd
7-5 in 2024 followed by a bowl win (8-5)
6-3 in 2025 so far
That's how you get coach for life around here.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 03, 2025, 02:27 PMI'll say this: If PJ Fleck's record over the past five or so years (2020-2025) was his record as coach here, no one would be calling for his firing.
3-4 in 2020 - covid
8-4 in 2021 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
8-4 in 2022 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
5-7 in 2023 followed by a bowl win (6-7) - odd
7-5 in 2024 followed by a bowl win (8-5)
6-3 in 2025 so far
That's how you get coach for life around here.
looks similar to this 10 year stretch
1998 9 3
1999 8 4
2000 6 6
2001 7 5
2002 9 5
2003 9 4
2004 5 6
2005 4 7
2006 10 4
2007 8 4
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 03, 2025, 02:36 PMlooks similar to this 10 year stretch
1998 9 3
1999 8 4
2000 6 6
2001 7 5
2002 9 5
2003 9 4
2004 5 6
2005 4 7
2006 10 4
2007 8 4
Super fans want that particular corch to come back as AD. Just think what we could do with that guy and Fleck!
Quote from: arreferee on Nov 03, 2025, 02:26 PMHis stock has soured at his current school, maybe he's overstayed his welcome.
he went to the playoffs last year. if the fans have turned on him after winning at least 10 games four out of the last 6 seasons, then maybe he's soured on them.
fleck doesn't even get the low ball support at minnesota as he would at arkansas right now.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 03, 2025, 02:27 PMI'll say this: If PJ Fleck's record over the past five or so years (2020-2025) was his record as coach here, no one would be calling for his firing.
3-4 in 2020 - covid
8-4 in 2021 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
8-4 in 2022 followed by a bowl win (9-4)
5-7 in 2023 followed by a bowl win (6-7) - odd
7-5 in 2024 followed by a bowl win (8-5)
6-3 in 2025 so far
That's how you get coach for life around here.
Can we just hire him to be our bowl prep coach?
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 01:22 PMWhat a dumb post.
It did precisely what I intended it to do.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 03, 2025, 02:42 PMCan we just hire him to be our bowl prep coach?
Does he enjoy Memphis?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 03, 2025, 01:10 PMI don't know man. HTL says he knows everyone in Fayetteville and BP isn't in the top 5 on anyone's list.
He's just bored and been reading too many coaching search threads on hogville. :))
Remember, his sources are solid, they're just incorrect!
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 03, 2025, 02:42 PMCan we just hire him to be our bowl prep coach?
The only bowl prep we'll need is for chili and nachos
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 03, 2025, 02:40 PMhe went to the playoffs last year. if the fans have turned on him after winning at least 10 games four out of the last 6 seasons, then maybe he's soured on them.
I don't disagree with you, but after a six year stretch of finishing in the top 4 from 2015 - 2020, I'm sure a lot of fans aren't happy than they haven't finished in the top 10 since then. They are kinda like Alabama fans...if they don't win a NC every year, they aren't satisfied.
Any coaching hire these days is a craps shoot. Doesn't matter if it's a proven guy or up and comer. Bobby could just as easily turn it around as he could shit the bed. Same with any of the other names out there. We do know Bobby is available, likely isn't going to Kiffin or Gus us in a bidding war.
Bobby's upside is as good as any realistic name out there. Just don't get retarded with his contract.
Quote from: aaron on Nov 03, 2025, 03:54 PMBobby's upside is as good as any realistic name out there. Just don't get retarded with his contract.
Pay him 5 a year, with huge bonuses for playoff appearances/wins
Being 64 does hinder the upside, even if we somehow get the old pre-2nd Louisville and Missouri St stents back.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 03, 2025, 04:23 PMPay him 5 a year, with huge bonuses for playoff appearances/wins
At his age keep him at 3, with incentives each year to get another year if he's interested in sticking around. Solid salary, solid bonuses for various targets, more bucks for staff, analysts, recruiting of current players, portal players, high schools. Bring in a total new S/C head and staff, emphasizing stamina, speed, strength, nutrition.
Of course gotta be prepared for another program making an offer.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 03, 2025, 05:04 PMOf course gotta be prepared for another program making an offer.
I don't think we have to worry about that as much after the last two games.
Absolutely bizarre the people that think a decent program is coming to poach Petrino.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 06:40 PMAbsolutely bizarre the people that think a decent program is coming to poach Petrino.
I agree with you. Petrino is not in the running for any power 5 school. With that said, I think he would do a good job in a power 5 HC role. Arkansas is actually lucky to have him as a viable option should some of the hot names turn us down.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 03, 2025, 02:36 PMlooks similar to this 10 year stretch
1998 9 3
1999 8 4
2000 6 6
2001 7 5
2002 9 5
2003 9 4
2004 5 6
2005 4 7
2006 10 4
2007 8 4
What is incredible is that dick head wasted the last great decade of Arkansas High School football talent. If he had put his ego aside, hired a competent offensive coordinator, he could have won a natty. Nah, instead he made an ass out of himself and made everything about him.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 06:40 PMAbsolutely bizarre the people that think a decent program is coming to poach Petrino.
Who's in you top five for the next head coach?
I'm probably less connected than anyone on this board, but just reading national guys articles.
I'd say the 3 most likely BIG 10 coaches would be a combination of Odom, Franklin, and Fleck. There are a lot of rumors that Jedd Fisch wants to get back to the SEC (a Florida Alum), but I just don't see him leaving Seattle for Fayetteville.
As far as ACC coaches, The Athletic had an article out the day Pittman was fired saying Brent Key had interest in the Arkansas job. I noticed about 5 minutes after Freeze was fired, the Athletic put out an article stating Key was interested in Auburn. This obviously feels like an old school Mike Gundy/Matt Campbell scenario where his agent floats his name to every opening to get GA Tech to raise their price. Unfortunately, our administration is probably gullible enough to think there is real interest there and get egg on their face. I would have definitely said Lashlee was the other until he signed that contract on Thursday. A lot of national guys have stated Wilcox wants out of Berkeley. I believe he was the DC at Tennessee prior to going there so that would make some sense. Allegedly, Fran Brown wants back in the SEC and I would think Arkansas would be a slight upgrade over Syracuse.
As far as NFL assistants, Zac Robinson, the OC for the Falcons, is supposedly campaigning hard for the OSU job. I could see his agent reaching out to Arkansas at the very least to try to get a bidding war going.
Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Nov 03, 2025, 09:33 PMI'm probably less connected than anyone on this board, but just reading national guys articles.
I'd say the 3 most likely BIG 10 coaches would be a combination of Odom, Franklin, and Fleck. There are a lot of rumors that Jedd Fisch wants to get back to the SEC (a Florida Alum), but I just don't see him leaving Seattle for Fayetteville.
As far as ACC coaches, The Athletic had an article out the day Pittman was fired saying Brent Key had interest in the Arkansas job. I noticed about 5 minutes after Freeze was fired, the Athletic put out an article stating Key was interested in Auburn. This obviously feels like an old school Mike Gundy/Matt Campbell scenario where his agent floats his name to every opening to get GA Tech to raise their price. Unfortunately, our administration is probably gullible enough to think there is real interest there and get egg on their face. I would have definitely said Lashlee was the other until he signed that contract on Thursday. A lot of national guys have stated Wilcox wants out of Berkeley. I believe he was the DC at Tennessee prior to going there so that would make some sense. Allegedly, Fran Brown wants back in the SEC and I would think Arkansas would be a slight upgrade over Syracuse.
As far as NFL assistants, Zac Robinson, the OC for the Falcons, is supposedly campaigning hard for the OSU job. I could see his agent reaching out to Arkansas at the very least to try to get a bidding war going.
Good post. Come around more often.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 04, 2025, 08:11 AMGood post. Come around more often.
I had the same thought when I read his post last night.
Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Nov 03, 2025, 09:33 PMI'm probably less connected than anyone on this board, but just reading national guys articles.
I'd say the 3 most likely BIG 10 coaches would be a combination of Odom, Franklin, and Fleck. There are a lot of rumors that Jedd Fisch wants to get back to the SEC (a Florida Alum), but I just don't see him leaving Seattle for Fayetteville.
As far as ACC coaches, The Athletic had an article out the day Pittman was fired saying Brent Key had interest in the Arkansas job. I noticed about 5 minutes after Freeze was fired, the Athletic put out an article stating Key was interested in Auburn. This obviously feels like an old school Mike Gundy/Matt Campbell scenario where his agent floats his name to every opening to get GA Tech to raise their price. Unfortunately, our administration is probably gullible enough to think there is real interest there and get egg on their face. I would have definitely said Lashlee was the other until he signed that contract on Thursday. A lot of national guys have stated Wilcox wants out of Berkeley. I believe he was the DC at Tennessee prior to going there so that would make some sense. Allegedly, Fran Brown wants back in the SEC and I would think Arkansas would be a slight upgrade over Syracuse.
As far as NFL assistants, Zac Robinson, the OC for the Falcons, is supposedly campaigning hard for the OSU job. I could see his agent reaching out to Arkansas at the very least to try to get a bidding war going.
About a week before Gundy was fired we were in Tulsa at an event. One of the people we talked to there was an OSU booster. He insisted that Gundy would soon be fired and that they were going to hire Zac Robinson, that it was already pretty much a done deal.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 04, 2025, 08:24 AMAbout a week before Gundy was fired we were in Tulsa at an event. One of the people we talked to there was an OSU booster. He insisted that Gundy would soon be fired and that they were going to hire Zac Robinson, that it was already pretty much a done deal.
Robinson is a plug and play option for OSU. Seems like a given at this point.
Young, OSU alum, NFL coordinator who coached under McVay. Would be a great hire for them.
Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Nov 03, 2025, 09:33 PMI'm probably less connected than anyone on this board, but just reading national guys articles.
I'd say the 3 most likely BIG 10 coaches would be a combination of Odom, Franklin, and Fleck. There are a lot of rumors that Jedd Fisch wants to get back to the SEC (a Florida Alum), but I just don't see him leaving Seattle for Fayetteville.
As far as ACC coaches, The Athletic had an article out the day Pittman was fired saying Brent Key had interest in the Arkansas job. I noticed about 5 minutes after Freeze was fired, the Athletic put out an article stating Key was interested in Auburn. This obviously feels like an old school Mike Gundy/Matt Campbell scenario where his agent floats his name to every opening to get GA Tech to raise their price. Unfortunately, our administration is probably gullible enough to think there is real interest there and get egg on their face. I would have definitely said Lashlee was the other until he signed that contract on Thursday. A lot of national guys have stated Wilcox wants out of Berkeley. I believe he was the DC at Tennessee prior to going there so that would make some sense. Allegedly, Fran Brown wants back in the SEC and I would think Arkansas would be a slight upgrade over Syracuse.
As far as NFL assistants, Zac Robinson, the OC for the Falcons, is supposedly campaigning hard for the OSU job. I could see his agent reaching out to Arkansas at the very least to try to get a bidding war going.
Thanks for sharing this
Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Nov 03, 2025, 09:33 PMI'm probably less connected than anyone on this board, but just reading national guys articles.
I'd say the 3 most likely BIG 10 coaches would be a combination of Odom, Franklin, and Fleck. There are a lot of rumors that Jedd Fisch wants to get back to the SEC (a Florida Alum), but I just don't see him leaving Seattle for Fayetteville.
As far as ACC coaches, The Athletic had an article out the day Pittman was fired saying Brent Key had interest in the Arkansas job. I noticed about 5 minutes after Freeze was fired, the Athletic put out an article stating Key was interested in Auburn. This obviously feels like an old school Mike Gundy/Matt Campbell scenario where his agent floats his name to every opening to get GA Tech to raise their price. Unfortunately, our administration is probably gullible enough to think there is real interest there and get egg on their face. I would have definitely said Lashlee was the other until he signed that contract on Thursday. A lot of national guys have stated Wilcox wants out of Berkeley. I believe he was the DC at Tennessee prior to going there so that would make some sense. Allegedly, Fran Brown wants back in the SEC and I would think Arkansas would be a slight upgrade over Syracuse.
As far as NFL assistants, Zac Robinson, the OC for the Falcons, is supposedly campaigning hard for the OSU job. I could see his agent reaching out to Arkansas at the very least to try to get a bidding war going.
I also appreciate the info and agree with JD to hang around and post more.
There used to be (maybe still is) a BBQ restaurant in Hoxie named Ole Hickory. I went there many times with my papaw and it was very good. Your name reminded me of that.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 04, 2025, 08:24 AMAbout a week before Gundy was fired we were in Tulsa at an event. One of the people we talked to there was an OSU booster. He insisted that Gundy would soon be fired and that they were going to hire Zac Robinson, that it was already pretty much a done deal.
I just listened to Biddy's show from yesterday. He said that Gundy and Traylor both want the job but aren't being considered and the fanbase should be thrilled if we could get PJ Fleck. If that's the case just keep Bobby.
No to gundy. We could do worse than Traylor.
I think fleck will be hootie 2.0
Quote from: BASS on Nov 04, 2025, 11:13 AMI think fleck will be hootie 2.0
I think he'd be Bert without the laziness, but then again Bert without laziness probably could still be coaching here. He could have won 6-10 games a year here if he had drive.
Could be Saban. No one knows. He was 34-24 at Michigan State.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 04, 2025, 11:44 AMCould be Saban. No one knows. He was 34-24 at Michigan State.
Have you ever seen his teams play? I'd rather read your posts than watch Gopher football.
https://x.com/AAC_FB/status/1985444970673668349
https://x.com/TheWuPigPodcast/status/1985532307260739825
hahahaha-- my guess is neither of them know what the heck they are talking about
As tight lipped as Hunter was on the first seach, there is no way I beleve "sources close to" statements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimpHL-qQ5U
Here is Sam's introductory press conference. At around 51:45 Hunter talks about his process and how he and two others are the only ones who know what is going on.
Why would his process this time be different?
Twitter and Facebook are full of those engagement bait/rage bait accounts.
They mean nothing.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 03, 2025, 06:40 PMAbsolutely bizarre the people that think a decent program is coming to poach Petrino.
Maybe as a well paid OC but he blew it as a serious HC anywhere outside of Ark.
I'm not sure he wants that smoke.
This is what every Arkansas Football coaching search feels like
Not sure if mentioned but apparently the RF plane landed in Provo, UT a few days ago.
Quote from: animal on Nov 04, 2025, 04:41 PMMaybe as a well paid OC but he blew it as a serious HC anywhere outside of Ark.
I'm not sure he wants that smoke.
I don't think any p4 g5 would give him a shot at this point, but I also think if he was the coach at Florida/LSU this year, they'd be battling for a playoff spot.
Quote from: animal on Nov 04, 2025, 04:41 PMMaybe as a well paid OC but he blew it as a serious HC anywhere outside of Ark.
I'm not sure he wants that smoke.
I always thought he should be an NFL OC.
Let's hire Bobby to be gm
Quote from: animal on Nov 04, 2025, 06:47 PMNot sure if mentioned but apparently the RF plane landed in Provo, UT a few days ago.
It was. You think we're going after Shiitake or whatever his name is?
I don't buy the rumors about Kalani Sitake - he is a BYU alum and he has it rolling in Provo with an easier path to the playoff via the Big 12. He would be a great hire but I just do not see him leaving BYU for the cut throat world of the SEC.
Fleck doesn't excite me, yea, he'd probably bring Lindsey with him which would be good but he doesn't really let him throw the ball downfield so what's the point? he has completed 62% of his passes (171/275) and averages 193.67 yards per game. He has a much bigger arm than that and it's being wasted. I could see him putting up Mallet type numbers in a BMFP drop back offense but he wants the running qb now sadly despite his most success coming with the drop back QB.
Franklin is a Sexton client so there's no way that he takes any job until the regular season ends as that's what Sexton clients do. None of the guys who have been extended are Sexton guys. I hear Tyson wants Franklin but what other school does? He could fall down to us but would Auburn take him? I don't see LSU or Florida taking him.
Odom - I don't see how you can sell this hire. Purude is bad.
Chesney - dude is the most experience G5 coach with a track record of success but our money people have never heard of him so it won't happen. he would a be a great hire but the only g5 guy i'd take other than Alex Golesh who has coached in the SEC.
I think Missouri will be open as Eli leaves for Penn State or Florida - timing could effect our search.
at this point, Bobby on a 3 year deal might not be a bad idea as it could at least stabilize the program for the next hire. Staff would be interesting but this program needs a ton of work which is gonna scare off a lot of potential candidates (like basketball after heath). Even with the portal and NIL this is not a quick fix as we are at the bottom of the SEC and hunter's comments at the LRTC are really going to impact this search. How's that plan the 8th year AD is working on coming along and why is it just now being asked for or developed? Not sure anyone is going to sign up to work for the current AD (and how the hell did he get on the CFP committee? Would he know good football if it bit him on the ass?)
Ok, keep Bobby and then go hire the AD at Northern Illinois - he gets the new era of college athletics.
the plane stopped for refuel in provo, wasn't on the ground long enough to meet someone. from there it went to eugene and stayed a while.
if you read the comments from the tweet that was posted somewhere on here, the guy says this.
https://x.com/KPScott007/status/1985723664185376967
I like Petrino daughter. She got that same fire.
Quote from: Hognrock on Nov 04, 2025, 10:36 AMI also appreciate the info and agree with JD to hang around and post more.
There used to be (maybe still is) a BBQ restaurant in Hoxie named Ole Hickory. I went there many times with my papaw and it was very good. Your name reminded me of that.
I went to jail in Hoxie one time in about 1987 or so.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 04, 2025, 11:13 AMNo to gundy. We could do worse than Traylor.
I'm meh on Traylor.
He's cooled off quite a bit at UTSA since they made the jump from Conference USA to the AAC.
He was 7-5, 12-2, and 11-3, and then they switched conferences and he's gone 9-4, 7-6, and now 4-4.
We could definitely do worse, but if we get to that point on the list we should probably just keep Bobby.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 04, 2025, 07:36 PMI don't buy the rumors about Kalani Sitake - he is a BYU alum and he has it rolling in Provo with an easier path to the playoff via the Big 12. He would be a great hire but I just do not see him leaving BYU for the cut throat world of the SEC.
Fleck doesn't excite me, yea, he'd probably bring Lindsey with him which would be good but he doesn't really let him throw the ball downfield so what's the point? he has completed 62% of his passes (171/275) and averages 193.67 yards per game. He has a much bigger arm than that and it's being wasted. I could see him putting up Mallet type numbers in a BMFP drop back offense but he wants the running qb now sadly despite his most success coming with the drop back QB.
Franklin is a Sexton client so there's no way that he takes any job until the regular season ends as that's what Sexton clients do. None of the guys who have been extended are Sexton guys. I hear Tyson wants Franklin but what other school does? He could fall down to us but would Auburn take him? I don't see LSU or Florida taking him.
Odom - I don't see how you can sell this hire. Purude is bad.
Chesney - dude is the most experience G5 coach with a track record of success but our money people have never heard of him so it won't happen. he would a be a great hire but the only g5 guy i'd take other than Alex Golesh who has coached in the SEC.
I think Missouri will be open as Eli leaves for Penn State or Florida - timing could effect our search.
at this point, Bobby on a 3 year deal might not be a bad idea as it could at least stabilize the program for the next hire. Staff would be interesting but this program needs a ton of work which is gonna scare off a lot of potential candidates (like basketball after heath). Even with the portal and NIL this is not a quick fix as we are at the bottom of the SEC and hunter's comments at the LRTC are really going to impact this search. How's that plan the 8th year AD is working on coming along and why is it just now being asked for or developed? Not sure anyone is going to sign up to work for the current AD (and how the hell did he get on the CFP committee? Would he know good football if it bit him on the ass?)
Ok, keep Bobby and then go hire the AD at Northern Illinois - he gets the new era of college athletics.
Yeah I wasn't buying it either...but he'd be a great hire though. Seems to be an excellent dude. No reason to leave BYU for fucking Arkansas. The thing about the plane going to Eugene is interesting but it could have been for damn near anything. Would we send a plane up there to meet with Nike? IDK.
Incidentally in looking at resumes for former FCS guys that did well and moved up...Jimmy Rogers (HC of Wash State) fits the description. Was 27-3 at South Dakota State and then hired on at Washington State and he's currently 4-5 taking L's to mostly ranked teams and North Texas (Eric Morris)...I do like these SD and ND State coaches that come out of there...they all seem to fit that DNA of what we all think would work at Arkansas. Can it be scaled up to be competitive in the SEC? Who the fuck knows.
If we're not doing Petrino then I'm really coming around to having a Leach disciple. It's an exciting offense that lends itself really well to the talent out of Texas and surrounding areas. Still going to be a talent neutralizer of sorts for at least another decade. I think I would be further on board with Petrino if it weren't for him being hung up on these Lamar Jackson clones that frankly just aren't that guy. That guy was a once a generation type of athlete...the Taylen Green's of the world are out there but they just aren't enough to really pull it off and if we're being honest Lamar Jackson wasn't a scientific rocket either. I think the key differences are the mentality. Jackson and Green physically are probably pretty similar...mentally one is a winner to a degree and the other a loser. You can dream Lamar Jackson a dozen times and 11 of those times at best you are going to get Akili Smith Lite
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 04, 2025, 08:01 PMI went to jail in Hoxie one time in about 1987 or so.
I imagine it's similar to the Andy Griffith jail. Was Otis in there? Also, what transpired to result in being confined in the great town of Hoxie?
Sitake is actually Mormon. I think non-Mormons at BYU struggle and look for opportunities elsehwhere but he's perfect for that job. There are unique advantages (Mission trips become 2 year "redshirts" and you get older players) and disadvantages at BYU, but I don't see this as being "real".
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 05, 2025, 11:40 AMSitake is actually Mormon. I think non-Mormons at BYU struggle and look for opportunities elsehwhere but he's perfect for that job. There are unique advantages (Mission trips become 2 year "redshirts" and you get older players) and disadvantages at BYU, but I don't see this as being "real".
With the exception of a year at Oregon State, he's been coaching in Utah nonstop since 2002. I don't see him leaving.
Quote from: animal on Nov 04, 2025, 06:47 PMNot sure if mentioned but apparently the RF plane landed in Provo, UT a few days ago.
The foundation plane is not the one that needs to be followed. They are not using that for the coaching search.
These deals are made with private planes that no one is tracking (or at least doesn't know which one to track).
You'll know who it is when the tweets start exploding all over the place, with things like "Arkansas closing on a deal to make _____ the new head coach." That'll be like an hour or two before the official announcement.
A good search should keep the eye off the ball.
If they are doing a good job we should be falling for false narratives and fake candidates, especially if they are closing in on a deal for someone that multiple schools are after.
The search that landed Pittman was WAY too transparent, as was the basketball search.
The best hires we've made in my life, Petrino 1st time around and Cal, took boosters dialing up the AD and there were still too many damn leaks.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 05, 2025, 01:25 PMThese deals are made with private planes that no one is tracking (or at least doesn't know which one to track).
You'll know who it is when the tweets start exploding all over the place, with things like "Arkansas closing on a deal to make _____ the new head coach." That'll be like an hour or two before the official announcement.
On point 1 I agree on point 2 I don't, our athletic dept has been leaky AF, particularly under Yurachek.
Nobody should know who's telling us "no"yet the Pittman search everyone knew every damn twist and turn.
Quote from: Hognrock on Nov 05, 2025, 08:24 AMI imagine it's similar to the Andy Griffith jail. Was Otis in there? Also, what transpired to result in being confined in the great town of Hoxie?
Me and some buddies were on our way to Spring River for a weekend camping/fishing trip and I got pulled over, the cop searched my truck without permission, a warrant, or probable cause and found an empty pill bottle that had my name on it (from some antibiotics from a dental thing) and he hauled me in and locked me up for possession of a controlled substance. It was all dropped and I was released two hours later. My dad got hold of somebody and that was the end of that.
I was 17 years old and a zero percent criminal. Hell...I didn't even really speed back then.
It was a shithole jail and the cop was a complete moron and retard. He had that "because I said so and I'm the law!" Attitude.
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 05, 2025, 01:50 PMMe and some buddies were on our way to Spring River for a weekend camping/fishing trip and I got pulled over, the cop searched my truck without permission, a warrant, or probable cause and found an empty pill bottle that had my name on it (from some antibiotics from a dental thing) and he hauled me in and locked me up for possession of a controlled substance. It was all dropped and I was released two hours later. My dad got hold of somebody and that was the end of that.
I was 17 years old and a zero percent criminal. Hell...I didn't even really speed back then.
It was a shithole jail and the cop was a complete moron and retard. He had that "because I said so and I'm the law!" Attitude.
Forget it Jake. It's Hoxie.
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Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 05, 2025, 01:50 PMMe and some buddies were on our way to Spring River for a weekend camping/fishing trip and I got pulled over, the cop searched my truck without permission, a warrant, or probable cause and found an empty pill bottle that had my name on it (from some antibiotics from a dental thing) and he hauled me in and locked me up for possession of a controlled substance. It was all dropped and I was released two hours later. My dad got hold of somebody and that was the end of that.
I was 17 years old and a zero percent criminal. Hell...I didn't even really speed back then.
It was a shithole jail and the cop was a complete moron and retard. He had that "because I said so and I'm the law!" Attitude.
Sounds about right for Hoxie, good on your dad for helping.
Quote from: Hognrock on Nov 04, 2025, 10:36 AMI also appreciate the info and agree with JD to hang around and post more.
There used to be (maybe still is) a BBQ restaurant in Hoxie named Ole Hickory. I went there many times with my papaw and it was very good. Your name reminded me of that.
Thanks, I've driven through Hoxie once in my life on my way to Walnut Ridge. Probably won't be going back to either any time soon but if I do, I'll definitely check out the restaurant. The name was supposed to be a nod to Andrew Jackson, but somehow when I was typing in my username, I typed in ol instead of old. I just went with it.
Athlon recently had an article linking Oregon's OC Will Stein to both the Ok State and Arkansas jobs. I doubt there is much interest in either direction, but we could probably do worse if we are going the "up and comer" route. He got his start in coaching as a quality control coach at Louisville under Strong and then Petrino. Jeff Trayler hired him when he took the UTSA job prior to 2020, and Stein took over as OC for Lunney when he followed Bert to Illinois prior to 2022. Stein actually improved the offense over Lunney in his one year there and UTSA (and Trayler) have regressed quite a bit since he left UTSA. Bo Nix credited Stein with a lot of his development. Although in retrospect when you've had Chad Morris as an OC, anyone else probably seems like Bill Walsh so maybe that doesn't mean a whole lot.
Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Nov 05, 2025, 09:18 PMThanks, I've driven through Hoxie once in my life on my way to Walnut Ridge. Probably won't be going back to either any time soon but if I do, I'll definitely check out the restaurant. The name was supposed to be a nod to Andrew Jackson, but somehow when I was typing in my username, I typed in ol instead of old. I just went with it.
Athlon recently had an article linking Oregon's OC Will Stein to both the Ok State and Arkansas jobs. I doubt there is much interest in either direction, but we could probably do worse if we are going the "up and comer" route. He got his start in coaching as a quality control coach at Louisville under Strong and then Petrino. Jeff Trayler hired him when he took the UTSA job prior to 2020, and Stein took over as OC for Lunney when he followed Bert to Illinois prior to 2022. Stein actually improved the offense over Lunney in his one year there and UTSA (and Trayler) have regressed quite a bit since he left UTSA. Bo Nix credited Stein with a lot of his development. Although in retrospect when you've had Chad Morris as an OC, anyone else probably seems like Bill Walsh so maybe that doesn't mean a whole lot.
You're bakervscarr...aren't you?
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 05, 2025, 09:37 PMYou're bakervscarr...aren't you?
now that's a name I've not heard in a long time
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 05, 2025, 10:23 PMnow that's a name I've not heard in a long time
Had to reach deep into the anals of Woopig to bring that one back up
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 05, 2025, 09:37 PMYou're bakervscarr...aren't you?
Brought to you by Titos...
Quote from: FNG on Nov 06, 2025, 08:22 AMBrought to you by Titos...
Best breakdowns of football games evar. He would have died of alcohol poisoning over the last three years breaking down games.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 06, 2025, 08:22 AMBrought to you by Titos...
Damn, I miss those.
Raisin's gamethread writeup and Baker's post game analysis was good stuff. Too bad they both noped out once the P&R winds changed.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 10:56 AMRaisin's gamethread writeup and Baker's post game analysis was good stuff. Too bad they both noped out once the P&R winds changed.
Is that why they left? Damn. That sucks. I miss those write ups. I figured it was just the suckitude of our program, having to write about it driving them to failed livers and swallowed barrels.
Quote from: passed on Nov 06, 2025, 11:19 AMIs that why they left? Damn. That sucks. I miss those write ups. I figured it was just the suckitude of our program, having to write about it driving them to failed livers and swallowed barrels.
Political leaning of the board changed and they, along with a lot of old timers, couldn't handle it. Covid vaccine discussions ended Rasin's time around here.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 11:28 AMPolitical leaning of the board changed and they, along with a lot of old timers, couldn't handle it. Covid vaccine discussions ended Rasin's time around here.
That's really why he left? He seemed highly intelligent. And certainly a funny motherfucker.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 06, 2025, 11:39 AMThat's really why he left? He seemed highly intelligent. And certainly a funny motherfucker.
lots of people left because they are lefty's. Several post a lot of angry shit on the socials constantly
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 11:28 AMPolitical leaning of the board changed and they, along with a lot of old timers, couldn't handle it. Covid vaccine discussions ended Rasin's time around here.
It bled into the other boards as well, unfortunately. The place got tiresome, even if you stopped looking over there.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 11:28 AMPolitical leaning of the board changed and they, along with a lot of old timers, couldn't handle it. Covid vaccine discussions ended Rasin's time around here.
I've found the best way to avoid getting worked up about posters' politics is just to hate all sides.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 06, 2025, 12:00 PMI've found the best way to avoid getting worked up about posters' politics is just to hate all sides.
This is the healthy way to manage it.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 06, 2025, 12:00 PMI've found the best way to avoid getting worked up about posters' politics is just to hate all sides.
This does seem more in the spirit of woopig
I know people venture over there, and I have too, but I often wished for the PR board to just go away for this reason. Good posters about sports got into heated fights over the things that had nothing to do with Razorbacks.
And they are right that it would spill over into other threads and muck them up too.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 06, 2025, 12:07 PMI know people venture over there, and I have too, but I often wished for the PR board to just go away for this reason. Good posters about sports got into heated fights over the things that had nothing to do with Razorbacks.
And they are right that it would spill over into other threads and muck them up too.
I tend to agree but I'm afraid if P&R was not there for people to go vent about politics then it would REALLY bleed over into the other boards.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 06, 2025, 11:58 AMIt bled into the other boards as well, unfortunately. The place got tiresome, even if you stopped looking over there.
I agree with this. Unfortuante and wish that hadn't happened.
By the way, glad you are back posting.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 11:28 AMCovid vaccine discussions ended Rasin's time around here.
He's probably still wearing a mask.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 06, 2025, 01:53 PMsigh
Agree. We should get back on topic.
No FUCKING WAY should Pat Fitzerald be a candidate for the Hog job.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 01:54 PMNo FUCKING WAY should Pat Fitzerald be a candidate for the Hog job.
hells to the fucking no
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 01:54 PMAgree. We should get back on topic.
No FUCKING WAY should Pat Fitzerald be a candidate for the Hog job.
Fucking hell. You just ensured it happens.
Quote from: passed on Nov 06, 2025, 02:01 PMFucking hell. You just ensured it happens.
First, I'm not htl. Don't put that evil on me.
Second, I'm just responding lovingly to at least one Razorback fan on this board who thinks we could do worse. I love that poster; they are good people. So I mean no offense. ;D
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 06, 2025, 11:39 AMThat's really why he left? He seemed highly intelligent. And certainly a funny motherfucker.
You just never know
Honestly, there's not a coach on the market that really excites me. There are some that might work out. Sumrall is maybe next big thing, but he could just as easily be another Billy Napier. PJ Fleck might do great in a southern state with a big NIL budget, but he might end up another Brian Harsin. We could hire some coordinator who ignores the other side of the ball and we end up losing a bunch of 10-7 games like Kentucky under Stoops, or a bunch of shootouts. Proven coaches that might be available, like Franklin, are just as likely to coast for a paycheck before retirement. Even Bobby is unproven as a coach in the NIL era.
Who is the football equivalent of us hiring Cal? A proven winner who needs a fresh start and still has enough fire to make some noise? Maybe it is Franklin, but that doesn't excite me as much as Cal did.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 06, 2025, 02:38 PMHonestly, there's not a coach on the market that really excites me. There are some that might work out. Sumrall is maybe next big thing, but he could just as easily be another Billy Napier. PJ Fleck might do great in a southern state with a big NIL budget, but he might end up another Brian Harsin. We could hire some coordinator who ignores the other side of the ball and we end up losing a bunch of 10-7 games like Kentucky under Stoops, or a bunch of shootouts. Proven coaches that might be available, like Franklin, are just as likely to coast for a paycheck before retirement. Even Bobby is unproven as a coach in the NIL era.
Who is the football equivalent of us hiring Cal? A proven winner who needs a fresh start and still has enough fire to make some noise? Maybe it is Franklin, but that doesn't excite me as much as Cal did.
As far as resume and stature it would be Dabo, but he and Cal are polar opposite personalities.
Guy on Tardville saying Kevin Scanlon to be AD. None of this "A little birdy told me" bullshit or anything like that, just a simple statement.
I personally think that would be a big improvement and would be indicative of BIIIIG boosters coming to the table.
Is it a forgone conclusion or been verified in any way that Hunter is out? I've not seen anything in the online sports world that has indicated that he might be leaving.
He was all hugging on the new ladies bb coach after they won the other night
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1986550537429336352
Scratch one competitor from the list.
Meaning they're smart enough to stay out of the madness this year.
Quote from: animal on Nov 06, 2025, 03:28 PMHe was all hugging on the new ladies bb coach after they won the other night
Duh. She's a milk truck.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 06, 2025, 03:51 PMDuh. She's a milk truck.
How udderly shameful that you would say such a thing.
Quote from: animal on Nov 06, 2025, 03:28 PMHe was all hugging on the new ladies bb coach after they won the other night
Well yeah, they won.
If they lost he'd be hiding under his desk
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 06, 2025, 03:49 PMhttps://x.com/petethamel/status/1986550537429336352
Scratch one competitor from the list.
This was the perfect job for Pat Fitzgerald.
We don't need no stinkin Badgers.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 03:24 PMIs it a forgone conclusion or been verified in any way that Hunter is out? I've not seen anything in the online sports world that has indicated that he might be leaving.
El Bazzio was making waves at the LR TD Club luncheon the other day. He complained about Trainor being dismissed from the athletic department, then started praising Scanlon, saying he could see him being the AD "in the future." It would all be a ploy to try to squeeze some more funds out of Warren Stephens.
I read this in an article someone posted on Facebook, and damned if I can't track it down now. As far as I know, it wasn't from Simone at 31 Flavors.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 02:16 PMFirst, I'm not htl. Don't put that evil on me.
Second, I'm just responding lovingly to at least one Razorback fan on this board who thinks we could do worse. I love that poster; they are good people. So I mean no offense. ;D
Rent free.
https://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1986452155054670167?
I know nothing about Kalshi, but is this true?
Buddy of mine was at a dinner the other night. His wife talked with Mrs Silverfield and my friend's wife asked about Arkansas, she said couldn't talk about it right now.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 06, 2025, 07:25 PMhttps://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1986452155054670167?
I know nothing about Kalshi, but is this true?
Brett McMurphy normally reliable. Not saying the next coach is in this list since he's quoting someone else
If we don't retain BMFP (and I hope we do) then he's going to end up at another SEC job and there will be hell to pay.
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 06, 2025, 07:35 PMIf we don't retain BMFP (and I hope we do) then he's going to end up at another SEC job and there will be hell to pay.
Lol. Those schools fans would burn it to the ground if they hired him.
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 06, 2025, 07:35 PMIf we don't retain BMFP (and I hope we do) then he's going to end up at another SEC job and there will be hell to pay.
Not as HC I don't think but OC a definite possibility. HC G5 at best but I think he'd prefer the big stage at this point and a chance at a title.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 06, 2025, 07:33 PMBrett McMurphy normally reliable. Not saying the next coach is in this list since he's quoting someone else
He's just quoting a betting site
Which dipshits are betting Malzahn at 5:1?
https://x.com/petenokos_/status/1986576111245938780?
More smoke?
Looking at his feed I believe it. Breaks all the firings and hirings of DI coaches for On3.
Broke the Franklin to VT story, that's not done yet, right?
But isn't it really early to break a story on a coach that's still actively coaching with games left and having a solid season?
That's a fake page. Jesus.
Fake account. His name is Pete Nakos.
There's another one floating around from "Von Retard" ::)
Too much of that, fuck
Why would anybody want to hire someone who would leave in the middle of a year? Isn't Memphis still in the running for the G5 slot in the playoffs?
https://x.com/adie_vonretard/status/1986525799126638929
Here's the one from von retard. It's been texted to me by at least 3 other retards.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 06, 2025, 08:20 PMhttps://x.com/adie_vonretard/status/1986525799126638929
Here's the one from von retard. It's been texted to me by at least 3 other retards.
I've had 5 retards text me this shit in the last hour
I've seen two retards post this in the last 30 minutes
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So this is real?
I am whelmed.
I'm waiting for an actual retard to confirm this.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 06, 2025, 08:50 PMI'm waiting for an actual retard to confirm this.
There are a lot of us here, but I don't think we know anything.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 06, 2025, 07:25 PMhttps://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1986452155054670167?
I know nothing about Kalshi, but is this true?
Basically all 4 coaches mentioned have almost the same odds of being the next head coach. Way to go out on that limb Brett. Why is that even worth posting at this point?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 09:21 PMBasically all 4 coaches mentioned have almost the same odds of being the next head coach. Way to go out on that limb Brett. Why is that even worth posting at this point?
I posted it because I really don't know how Kalshi works. But from what I have read, it has been pretty accurate.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 06, 2025, 09:25 PMI posted it because I really don't know how Kalshi works. But from what I have read, it has been pretty accurate.
I was talking about Brett posting (tweeting) it out. Not you posting it which I take no issues with.
I know you can't judge one guy against the next here, but the fact the last 2 Memphis coaches that stepped up in competition bombed worries me a bit. Although I still believe we should've hired Norvell over Morris. Blows my mind we didn't.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 06, 2025, 09:37 PMI know you can't judge one guy against the next here, but the fact the last 2 Memphis coaches that stepped up in competition bombed worries me a bit. Although I still believe we should've hired Norvell over Morris. Blows my mind we didn't.
I agree with this and think silverfield would bomb here. I like him, good g5 coach, but 1000% would not work out here. I'd still take probably take norvell over him today. I'd be impressed if hie actually finishes the season with one loss but even with that, they probably don't make the playoffs.
I bet McMurtry has a deal with Kalshi otherwise why mention it?
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/46838301/ncaa-sends-concerns-integrity-prediction-market-kalshi
Kalshi is a federally regulated prediction market, operating under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). Unlike sportsbooks such as FanDuel, DraftKings or BetMGM — which are regulated by state gaming commissions and banned in states such as California and Texas — Kalshi is legal nationwide because it's classified as a financial trading platform, not a gambling service.
Silverfield is a sexton client so there's that. I would be shocked he talked to anyone until December and Jimmy wants him to concentrate on making the playoff and raising his profile and salary requirements
I would be fine with Petrino but why does he keep letting green trot out there to make the same mis reads, mistakes, run 15 yards backwards when pressured and throw a duck off his back foot again and again? He's had KJ for 2 years and if he's not ready, why not? For all his stats, Green has 2 sec wins in 2 years as the backup won the Tennessee game last year.
So did that 7 PM meeting with the players happen?
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 06, 2025, 08:50 PMI'm waiting for an actual retard to confirm this.
Not getting that here we are all multi millionaire genuses
Terry not a big fan of Gruden apparently.
More retarded shit
https://x.com/ssn_arkansas/status/1986519287218250108?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Speaking of Franklin, this is one of those "who is Jonathan Adams?" articles, but if it's accurate, Franklin would have to be passed over by several schools above us in the pecking order, to be a possibility in Fayetteville.
Franklin's latest odds to be Virginia Tech's new coach is listed at 69%, per Kalshi. For context, James Madison's Bob Chesney is a distant second at 10%.
Franklin and Virginia Tech appear to be on a collision course, but one of the SEC programs getting involved could pose a threat to the Hokies' plans. CBS Sports' Chris Hummer, John Talty and Richard Johnson noted Auburn is a job to "keep an eye on" for Franklin.
"Franklin both wants to work and contractually has to work due to his 'duty to a mitigate' clause in his Penn State contract," CBS Sports detailed on Thursday. "He's come up as a candidate at Virginia Tech -- and the fan base has worked itself up into a lather about the possibility a hire that would have been a total pipe dream three months ago.
"The Hokies seem to have some momentum with Franklin, but Auburn, Florida and LSU are also jobs to keep an eye on with Franklin
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/james-franklin-predicted-to-be-named-coach-of-major-college-football-team-amid-rumors/ar-AA1Q05AQ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=690e2fa8c9e346a392aa253ad69446cb&ei=11
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 07, 2025, 11:53 AMSpeaking of Franklin, this is one of those "who is Jonathan Adams?" articles, but if it's accurate, Franklin would have to be passed over by several schools above us in the pecking order, to be a possibility in Fayetteville.
Franklin's latest odds to be Virginia Tech's new coach is listed at 69%, per Kalshi. For context, James Madison's Bob Chesney is a distant second at 10%.
Franklin and Virginia Tech appear to be on a collision course, but one of the SEC programs getting involved could pose a threat to the Hokies' plans. CBS Sports' Chris Hummer, John Talty and Richard Johnson noted Auburn is a job to "keep an eye on" for Franklin.
"Franklin both wants to work and contractually has to work due to his 'duty to a mitigate' clause in his Penn State contract," CBS Sports detailed on Thursday. "He's come up as a candidate at Virginia Tech -- and the fan base has worked itself up into a lather about the possibility a hire that would have been a total pipe dream three months ago.
"The Hokies seem to have some momentum with Franklin, but Auburn, Florida and LSU are also jobs to keep an eye on with Franklin
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/james-franklin-predicted-to-be-named-coach-of-major-college-football-team-amid-rumors/ar-AA1Q05AQ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=690e2fa8c9e346a392aa253ad69446cb&ei=11
Franklin doesn't seem to be involved with Florida or LSU. We can outbid Va Tech if we so desire.
Everybody out there right now.
https://youtu.be/UmzsWxPLIOo
Bob is already recruiting and planning to host JUCO prospects against LSU
recruiting JUCO is still a thing?
BP will be our next coach.
Unless things change. It is a fluid situation after all.
But seriously, BP is the guy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 07, 2025, 01:07 PMBP will be our next coach.
Unless things change. It is a fluid situation after all.
But seriously, BP is the guy.
I refuse to let myself believe that our administration or boosters are going to spend (overpay) what it would take to get a top tier coach here, both in terms of salary and NIL commitments.
By the same token I don't believe they are going to hire Bobby if he goes 0-7 as interim no matter how much improvement we might see in the losses.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 07, 2025, 12:55 PMrecruiting JUCO is still a thing?
speaking if JUCO, I hear Jason Brown is available to coach
If the truth be known, what unemployed coach WOULDN'T come here for around 6M a year. Hell, I would take that. Coach a year or two, take the money and run to the next job. You don't even have to win. Just be competitive.
If we give it to Bobby, let's back up the Brinks truck and make Durkin the DC.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 07, 2025, 01:07 PMBP will be our next coach.
Unless things change. It is a fluid situation after all.
But seriously, BP is the guy.
Is this what you expect, or what you want?
The former is rational; the latter rarely is.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Nov 07, 2025, 02:01 PMIf we give it to Bobby, let's back up the Brinks truck and make Durkin the DC.
That would be fantastic.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 07, 2025, 12:48 PMBob is already recruiting and planning to host JUCO prospects against LSU
Are they going to watch on TV from Fayetteville or is he going to secretly let LSU host them for us?
LSU ain't got a coach either. Unless... surely he wouldn't be recruiting them to go there when he becomes the next OC or worse.
I'm gonna marry this chick and make her a Razorback fan. She would love a good Arkansas coaching search meltdown.
https://x.com/AnnieAgar/status/1986864036881805406?s=20
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Nov 07, 2025, 02:01 PMIf we give it to Bobby, let's back up the Brinks truck and make Durkin the DC.
I've been on this train for a while as well.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 07, 2025, 02:02 PMIs this what you expect, or what you want?
The former is rational; the latter rarely is.
All the experts are sharing what their sources are saying. My sources say BP is the next coach. Or maybe not.
As to part of your question, I want BP to be the next coach. Do it and move on. Let him start getting a permanent staff in place and recruiting. Seems like we could have a jump start over programs like Auburn and LSU. Maybe im over simplifying.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 07, 2025, 04:05 PMAll the experts are sharing what their sources are saying. My sources say BP is the next coach. Or maybe not.
As to part of your question, I want BP to be the next coach. Do it and move on. Let him start getting a permanent staff in place and recruiting. Seems like we could have a jump start over programs like Auburn and LSU. Maybe im over simplifying.
I want it too. I just dont think we're going to win another game and I think that'll end his chances, unfairly.
We'll see
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 07, 2025, 04:15 PMI want it too. I just dont think we're going to win another game and I think that'll end his chances, unfairly.
We'll see
"BMFP, you can have the job, but you agree to do it for your coordinator salary and a 4 million bonus if you make the playoffs. The balance of what we would have paid a new coach gets funneled to NIL."
He wouldn't say no.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 07, 2025, 04:38 PM"BMFP, you can have the job, but you agree to do it for your coordinator salary and a 4 million bonus if you make the playoffs. The balance of what we would have paid a new coach gets funneled to NIL."
He wouldn't say no.
I know he wouldn't.
I just don't think the powers that be would offer it. I think they want a big name hire and see Bobby as damaged goods. Hope I'm wrong
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 07, 2025, 04:44 PMI think they want a big name hire and see Bobby as damaged goods. Hope I'm wrong
I fear this is accurate. The only way to get that is a stupid contract that fucks over the donors to the athletic program.
I think Bobby had to win 2 regardless of circumstances
Quote from: animal on Nov 07, 2025, 06:19 PMI think Bobby had to win 2 regardless of circumstances
Which is absolutely asinine, especially to anyone who watched that team flat out quit against ND. It was obvious after Arkansas State and Memphis that Sam had been phoning it in from the golf cart, and we had very little talent, and NO depth thanks to him.
Just keeping the team from completely defecting, and making a respectable showing for the remainder of the season, shouldve been the goal for BP. So far he's done a helluva job at that.
Hope we aren't hiring this guy after this performance against Tulane
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 07, 2025, 09:45 PMHope we aren't hiring this guy after this performance against Tulane
I doubt either one of these guys are interested in Arkansas.
Quote from: TC on Nov 07, 2025, 07:40 PMWhich is absolutely asinine, especially to anyone who watched that team flat out quit against ND. It was obvious after Arkansas State and Memphis that Sam had been phoning it in from the golf cart, and we had very little talent, and NO depth thanks to him.
Just keeping the team from completely defecting, and making a respectable showing for the remainder of the season, shouldve been the goal for BP. So far he's done a helluva job at that.
Asinine is our middle name
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 07, 2025, 09:48 PMI doubt either one of these guys are interested in Arkansas.
If they keep losing they'll become more interested in us.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 07, 2025, 10:55 PMIf they keep losing they'll become more interested in us.
If either get hired by a P4 school, they'll be on the hot seat in 3 years and fired within 5. But Memphis has pulled within 6 now. So I guess he's back in the conversation 😂
Tulane try to pull the BP special and only score 3 points in the 2nd half.
Duckman better hope it's Gruden.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 06, 2025, 02:16 PMFirst, I'm not htl. Don't put that evil on me.
Second, I'm just responding lovingly to at least one Razorback fan on this board who thinks we could do worse. I love that poster; they are good people. So I mean no offense. ;D
You must have been living under a rock the last 10 years. We definitely could do worse.
Because we have.
And I wasn't advocating for him, just stating he's a good coach, no matter what your opinion is, and once again, we could definitely do worse. Probably will.
At least we are still being shown on Gameday as other teams highlight plays. Man, we are bad.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 07, 2025, 12:55 PMrecruiting JUCO is still a thing?
My kids baseball coach is the strength coach for NW MS Juco football and he told me last night we just offered one of their DBs that's currently committed to USC. Also said we offered a couple of other MS JUCO players this week.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 08, 2025, 09:22 AMYou must have been living under a rock the last 10 years. We definitely could do worse.
Because we have.
And I wasn't advocating for him, just stating he's a good coach, no matter what your opinion is, and once again, we could definitely do worse. Probably will.
If that is the standard then there are a bajillion coaches we should hire.
Also, I was poking fun at your expense. Wasn't trying to be a dick. We obviously could do worse.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 07, 2025, 11:53 AMSpeaking of Franklin, this is one of those "who is Jonathan Adams?" articles, but if it's accurate, Franklin would have to be passed over by several schools above us in the pecking order, to be a possibility in Fayetteville.
Franklin's latest odds to be Virginia Tech's new coach is listed at 69%, per Kalshi. For context, James Madison's Bob Chesney is a distant second at 10%.
Franklin and Virginia Tech appear to be on a collision course, but one of the SEC programs getting involved could pose a threat to the Hokies' plans. CBS Sports' Chris Hummer, John Talty and Richard Johnson noted Auburn is a job to "keep an eye on" for Franklin.
"Franklin both wants to work and contractually has to work due to his 'duty to a mitigate' clause in his Penn State contract," CBS Sports detailed on Thursday. "He's come up as a candidate at Virginia Tech -- and the fan base has worked itself up into a lather about the possibility a hire that would have been a total pipe dream three months ago.
"The Hokies seem to have some momentum with Franklin, but Auburn, Florida and LSU are also jobs to keep an eye on with Franklin
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/james-franklin-predicted-to-be-named-coach-of-major-college-football-team-amid-rumors/ar-AA1Q05AQ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=690e2fa8c9e346a392aa253ad69446cb&ei=11
Florida and LSU won't take a coach that Penn St just fired
Auburn maybe, but I'm not sure they are above us in the pecking order - they go through coaches like underwear there. Not a place a coach that wants time to turn things around wants to go.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 07, 2025, 11:53 AMSpeaking of Franklin, this is one of those "who is Jonathan Adams?" articles, but if it's accurate, Franklin would have to be passed over by several schools above us in the pecking order, to be a possibility in Fayetteville.
Franklin's latest odds to be Virginia Tech's new coach is listed at 69%, per Kalshi. For context, James Madison's Bob Chesney is a distant second at 10%.
Franklin and Virginia Tech appear to be on a collision course, but one of the SEC programs getting involved could pose a threat to the Hokies' plans. CBS Sports' Chris Hummer, John Talty and Richard Johnson noted Auburn is a job to "keep an eye on" for Franklin.
"Franklin both wants to work and contractually has to work due to his 'duty to a mitigate' clause in his Penn State contract," CBS Sports detailed on Thursday. "He's come up as a candidate at Virginia Tech -- and the fan base has worked itself up into a lather about the possibility a hire that would have been a total pipe dream three months ago.
"The Hokies seem to have some momentum with Franklin, but Auburn, Florida and LSU are also jobs to keep an eye on with Franklin
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/james-franklin-predicted-to-be-named-coach-of-major-college-football-team-amid-rumors/ar-AA1Q05AQ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=690e2fa8c9e346a392aa253ad69446cb&ei=11
Chesney would be a great hire for anyone. I'd take him here at Arkansas. Va. Tech would be stupid as hell to overlook him.
Just hire chesney and have him bring his entire staff. maybe durkin if we can get him.
cross kinne off the list. 0-4 in sun belt.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 08, 2025, 06:32 PMcross kinne off the list. 0-4 in sun belt.
He made sure he didn't want on that list.
Madre Hill endorses Petrino for the NEXT coach. But in the same breath he says David Bazzell should be AD, instantly negating all his credibility.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 10, 2025, 06:09 PMMadre Hill endorses Petrino for the NEXT coach. But in the same breath he says David Bazzell should be AD, instantly negating all his credibility.
jesus Christ...is this a joke? David Bazzell
In all fairness, he has convinced some of the higher ups to do stupid shit.
I don't know anything either. But there is no way, no way whatsoever, we will hire a better coach for our job than Bobby Petrino.
No way. I've been on this board for a couple decades, as well as everyone else. We have smart people here, people who have been through hell. Everyone here knows.
And everyone here is right. Everyone that matters anyway.
it's going to be who wants tyson's money the most.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 10, 2025, 08:08 PMit's going to be who tyson's money wants the most.
Fixed
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 10, 2025, 06:09 PMMadre Hill endorses Petrino for the NEXT coach. But in the same breath he says David Bazzell should be AD, instantly negating all his credibility.
Not worth hiring Bobby if we gotta make Bazzell the AD too.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 10, 2025, 10:08 PMNot worth hiring Bobby if we gotta make Bazzell the AD too.
I'll Devil's Advocate here a bit (hold while I swallow the vomit)... Ahem. If the AD's primary job is to bring in money and play grab ass with Boosters, then perhaps he would be better than Hunter? I mean, the dude HAS a lot of dumb shit he gets all kinds of people to buy in to, including well connected / wealthy people.
Quote from: passed on Nov 11, 2025, 06:51 AMI'll Devil's Advocate here a bit (hold while I swallow the vomit)... Ahem. If the AD's primary job is to bring in money and play grab ass with Boosters, then perhaps he would be better than Hunter? I mean, the dude HAS a lot of dumb shit he gets all kinds of people to buy in to, including well connected / wealthy people.
After 6 months
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Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 11, 2025, 07:04 AMAfter 6 months
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:maundoed: That is spot-fucking-on
:maundoed:
Quote from: passed on Nov 11, 2025, 06:51 AMI'll Devil's Advocate here a bit (hold while I swallow the vomit)... Ahem. If the AD's primary job is to bring in money and play grab ass with Boosters, then perhaps he would be better than Hunter? I mean, the dude HAS a lot of dumb shit he gets all kinds of people to buy in to, including well connected / wealthy people.
As long as the players are still looked at as "student-athletes" he has a lot of administrative duties and probably not ideal.
If the main sports are separated from the university, which I think they will in the near future, then Bazell would be ideal as a GM to get money toward the football program.
We're to the stage of the search where Duckman has been banned from Hogville lol.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 11, 2025, 10:05 AMWe're to the stage of the search where Duckman has been banned from Hogville lol.
Who's he saying we're going to get?
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 11, 2025, 10:41 AMWho's he saying we're going to get?
Gruden!
Quote from: HTL on Nov 11, 2025, 10:56 AMGruden!
I'm sure they are banning Duckman because he knows too much. ::)
Quote from: HTL on Nov 11, 2025, 10:05 AMWe're to the stage of the search where Duckman has been banned from Hogville lol.
Send him a pm and tell him he's welcome back over here anytime. No one will ever mention a word about you-know-what. Promise. 8)
Bobby Bones had 👀 👂 💥
And now Brandon Walker has this
https://x.com/bfw/status/1988412448710553794?s=61&t=jBF4ycjE1_hZ59GSXn-HZg
Welcome to Fayetteville, Nicholas.
brandon walker is a huge miss st fan and loves to troll arkansas for some reason. i think he's making fun of bones's tweet.
Whoever that Curry Sage guy is says the hire is a 4 in a 1-10 scale.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 04:39 AMWhoever that Curry Sage guy is says the hire is a 4 in a 1-10 scale.
math checks out
I wonder what candidates would rank a 4? If true, so much for going all in.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 12, 2025, 07:23 AMI wonder what candidates would rank a 4? If true, so much for going all in.
Row the boat!
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 04:39 AMWhoever that Curry Sage guy is says the hire is a 4 in a 1-10 scale.
I think that was his rating in terms of "splash factor" or some such nonsense.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 04:39 AMWhoever that Curry Sage guy is says the hire is a 4 in a 1-10 scale.
This is the most believable comment yet, because... Arkansas.
Some smoke around Dan Lanning. Sounds crazy and then I looked up his bio and see that he is from Missouri got ties to the Graham, Norvell, and Malzahn crew and realize he might actually be "the guy" for some boosters and he is someone who might be favorably disposed to Arkansas and getting back to the area.
Anyway, something to talk about until we hire the Memphis coach.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 12, 2025, 08:18 AMSome smoke around Dan Lanning. Sounds crazy and then I looked up his bio and see that he is from Missouri got ties to the Graham, Norvell, and Malzahn crew and realize he might actually be "the guy" for some boosters and he is someone who might be favorably disposed to Arkansas and getting back to the area.
Anyway, something to talk about until we hire the Memphis coach.
No way Lanning turns down Alabama and then moves to Arkansas two years later. For one, even if we came up with $20MM per year and equivalent NIL I think Nike would match it to keep him.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 12, 2025, 08:18 AMSome smoke around Dan Lanning. Sounds crazy and then I looked up his bio and see that he is from Missouri got ties to the Graham, Norvell, and Malzahn crew and realize he might actually be "the guy" for some boosters and he is someone who might be favorably disposed to Arkansas and getting back to the area.
Anyway, something to talk about until we hire the Memphis coach.
I want to say his wife or him is from the KCK area
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 12, 2025, 08:20 AMNo way Lanning turns down Alabama and then moves to Arkansas two years later. For one, even if we came up with $20MM per year and equivalent NIL I think Nike would match it to keep him.
Or no way he does that and then moves to Arkansas while LSU and Florida are both open.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 12, 2025, 08:18 AMAnyway, something to talk about until we hire the Memphis coach Barry Lunney, Jr.
fixt
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 12, 2025, 08:24 AMOr no way he does that and then moves to Arkansas while LSU and Florida are both open.
Well, to be fair, LSU is on the way to hiring the Grambling coach or the guy at Airline High in Shreveport. Probably all they are going to be able to afford and their dumpster has 50 foot flames shooting out of the top of it right now.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 12, 2025, 08:39 AMWell, to be fair, LSU is on the way to hiring the Grambling coach or the guy at Airline High in Shreveport. Probably all they are going to be able to afford and their dumpster has 50 foot flames shooting out of the top of it right now.
Don't misunderstand...I'd love to be wrong here. Lanning would be at the top of my wish list if he had any interest at all in our job.
wouldn't be surprised if it's none of the guys being mentioned. if it's not petrino, then some p4 coach out of left field, like bert was.
I know pessimism is sort of our style around here and I know there isn't much to be excited about with our program lately but let me step back from that for a moment.
In the age of NIL, recruiting advantages and footprints and all that mean very little. Coaching still matters more than anything and then it is just cash. Now we all know that at the top end, Arkansas has money that most schools can't match. It's that so far, it hasn't been motivated to get involved. But since the last coaching search a lot has changed. Indiana has never been any good in any era. They hired the right coach and spent the money and here they are. Eleven months ago, we drubbed Texas Tech. That game motivated ONE billionaire booster to buy them a team and they are going to make the playoffs this year. And we've suffered a lot of humiliation.
Are the reports of us wanting to spend the money now true? Has the Coach Cal experience, Indiana, and Texas Tech shown us the way? If so, it can happen here.
Idk if true, but I heard from someone at least mildly credible Rob Walton is going to get involved. Same person told me long-term plan is to relocate the Broncos to NWA.
I'd heard McMillon was involved, but not any actual Waltons.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 09:09 AMIdk if true, but I heard from someone at least mildly credible Rob Walton is going to get involved. Same person told me long-term plan is to relocate the Broncos to NWA.
Sam M. Walton Razorback Stadium has a nice ring to it. Rob should have done that years ago.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 09:09 AMIdk if true, but I heard from someone at least mildly credible Rob Walton is going to get involved. Same person told me long-term plan is to relocate the Broncos to NWA.
He better hurry cause that guy is 81 years old.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 12, 2025, 09:16 AMHe better hurry cause that guy is 81 years old.
Son-in-law is the CEO.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 09:09 AMIdk if true, but I heard from someone at least mildly credible Rob Walton is going to get involved. Same person told me long-term plan is to relocate the Broncos to NWA.
The Gravette Broncos. I like it.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 09:09 AMIdk if true, but I heard from someone at least mildly credible Rob Walton is going to get involved. Same person told me long-term plan is to relocate the Broncos to NWA.
I do wonder if they'd like to get out of Denver. It's a democrat shithole that's only going to get worse.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 12, 2025, 10:17 AMI do wonder if they'd like to get out of Denver. It's a democrat shithole that's only going to get worse.
Seems like these things coincide with refusal to fund a new stadium. Current one was built in 01 so...
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 12, 2025, 09:31 AMThe Gravette Broncos. I like it.
Bentonville Bucking Boars
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 12, 2025, 09:31 AMThe Gravette Broncos. I like it.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 12, 2025, 10:17 AMI do wonder if they'd like to get out of Denver. It's a democrat shithole that's only going to get worse.
Thats not happening they just announced the new stadium location and then submitted plans this week for the project at Burnham Yard which is supposedly gonna be privately funded.
If anything, they would move to St. Louis.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 12, 2025, 10:33 AMThats not happening they just announced the new stadium location and then submitted plans this week for the project at Burnham Yard which is supposedly gonna be privately funded.
Those are initial plans and nowhere near finalized. $140mm in public investment just for surrounding infra.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 12, 2025, 10:45 AMIf anything, they would move to St. Louis.
Zero chance. Place is beyond dead.
So somebody actually believes the Denver Broncos are moving to NWA?
Was this leaked from the Lake Hamilton SCIF?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 12, 2025, 10:54 AMSo somebody actually believes the Denver Broncos are moving to NWA?
Was this leaked from the Lake Hamilton SCIF?
Know how I know you're gay? You fantasize about another man 24/7. No one said they believe anything. Realistically, maybe 20 years from 1mm in the MSA.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 12, 2025, 10:46 AMThose are initial plans and nowhere near finalized. $140mm in public investment just for surrounding infra.
bottom line they are not leaving Denver.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 12, 2025, 11:24 AMbottom line they are not leaving Denver.
Sounds like what they said in STL.
I'm moving the Travs to Hot Springs. Anything can happen.
IF you can get Dan Lanning to leave Oregon, you make it happen. That would be a no brainer, home run hire.
Dan Lanning, if it was true, is a 10 hire not a 4.
Where are the Dabo rumors coming from - his agent? they might be the only school with a worse NIL approach than us.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 12, 2025, 12:01 PMIF you can get Dan Lanning to leave Oregon, you make it happen. That would be a no brainer, home run hire.
Lol. Never happening. I would question his sanity if it did happen.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 12, 2025, 10:17 AMI do wonder if they'd like to get out of Denver. It's a democrat shithole that's only going to get worse.
To move to a Republican shithole?
With that one dude on Twitter saying it's a 4/10 hire, I'd bet PJ Fleck. I think we'd all happily take his record at Minnesota. 4 seasons with 8+ wins including an 11 win season in 2019 and 2 9 win seasons. Lindsey comes with him too.
who is the guy that said it was 4/10? like who is he.
this is from his podcast page:
Burning Sage is a (mostly) weekly podcast with college basketball's most interesting coaches and newsmakers. Hosted by Curry Hicks Sage, a pseudonymous internet poster turned insider, the show takes true college hoop heads behind the curtain for lengthy and substantive looks at the sport's most interesting figures.
He was the first guy that tweeted Pittman was fired.
If it's a 4, guessing Fleck or Silverfield.
I'd almost rather just give the job to Bobby, save our money and go spend money on an excellent DC and staff and have the money leftover for NIL than hire either of those mid tier guys
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 12, 2025, 02:03 PMI'd almost rather just give the job to Bobby, save our money and go spend money on an excellent DC and staff and have the money leftover for NIL than hire either of those mid tier guys
Wow, I've never heard that opinion expressed on Woopig before.
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699230752677927?
Is this the guy y'all call Duckman? With the wife that sings all the patriotic songs in a bikini on Lake Hamilton?
well, guess he took it down... said we had a deal in place for a coach, but didn't say who
now it's back up... don't know what is going on
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:09 PMhttps://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699230752677927?
Is this the guy y'all call Duckman? With the wife that sings all the patriotic songs in a bikini on Lake Hamilton?
well, guess he took it down... said we had a deal in place for a coach, but didn't say who
now it's back up... don't know what is going on
That's him.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:09 PMhttps://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699230752677927?
Is this the guy y'all call Duckman? With the wife that sings all the patriotic songs in a bikini on Lake Hamilton?
well, guess he took it down... said we had a deal in place for a coach, but didn't say who
now it's back up... don't know what is going on
We need pics of the tits to confirm.
This could change
Duckman out
so that's exactly what i read mike irwin said except for the announce today stuff.
apparently he got kicked off nobville for doing shit like this.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 12, 2025, 02:17 PMThis could change
Duckman out
lol. and we know who he's talking about.
https://x.com/keithlgrayson/status/1988434447189123277?
Just saw this. Not really surprising, if true.
If I had the pic of his wife's tits I'd comment it on every one of that hack's tweets
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:24 PMhttps://x.com/keithlgrayson/status/1988434447189123277?
Just saw this. Not really surprising, if true.
Who are they, and why is Yurachek still getting a paycheck if he can't hire the football coach?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 12, 2025, 02:29 PMWho are they, and why is Yurachek still getting a paycheck if he can't hire the football coach?
they're both on the board of trustees. Maybe they're firing HY
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2025, 07:01 PMIn all fairness, he has convinced some of the higher ups to do stupid shit.
Does anybody have a video of him introducing his new "Root Hog" cheer at a men's basketball game back in the 90's? It was one of the most cringe things I've ever seen.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 12, 2025, 02:29 PMWho are they, and why is Yurachek still getting a paycheck if he can't hire the football coach?
Crass is a senior partner at Friday Eldridge & Clark. Good guy. Ted Dickey is a former Stephens guy who now handles investments for some other really rich people, like the Dunklin family out of Pine Bluff.
I think Crass is chairman of the Board, but not sure.
Quote from: red death on Nov 10, 2025, 07:43 PMI don't know anything either. But there is no way, no way whatsoever, we will hire a better coach for our job than Bobby Petrino.
No way. I've been on this board for a couple decades, as well as everyone else. We have smart people here, people who have been through hell. Everyone here knows.
And everyone here is right. Everyone that matters anyway.
Two days later and it looks even more certain that we're moving away from Bobby. BoT probably doesn't have it in them to admit that firing him in 2012 was a mistake. We're going to Arkansas the shit out of this thing, because it's what losers do.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:36 PMCrass is a senior partner at Friday Eldridge & Clark. Good guy. Ted Dickey is a former Stephens guy who now handles investments for some other really rich people, like the Dunklin family out of Pine Bluff.
I think Crass is chairman of the Board, but not sure.
Ted is Jay Dickey former US rep from Pine Bluff son.
Quote from: Pighair on Nov 12, 2025, 02:37 PMTed is Jay Dickey former US rep from Pine Bluff son.
Oh, I didn't think of that connection. Makes sense.
I believe Dickey mostly manages the Dunklin real estate assets. Expect someone like Bert if Crass is running point.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:38 PMOh, I didn't think of that connection. Makes sense.
Crass and Dickey are both from Pine Bluff. What could go wrong?
Of course we're farming out the hiring to an OBU grad.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 12, 2025, 02:43 PMCrass and Dickey are both from Pine Bluff. What could go wrong?
Good chance one, or both, might get shot before we announce.
Quote from: JJHawg on Nov 12, 2025, 02:32 PMDoes anybody have a video of him introducing his new "Root Hog" cheer at a men's basketball game back in the 90's? It was one of the most cringe things I've ever seen.
Holy shit I remember that one. Wasn't it at the last Midnight Madness in Barnhill Arena, 1993? It was the Friday night before a homecoming game. In 1993 it was against Auburn. It snowed and coldest game I attended before the Cotton Bowl 2002.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:09 PMhttps://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699230752677927?
Is this the guy y'all call Duckman? With the wife that sings all the patriotic songs in a bikini on Lake Hamilton?
well, guess he took it down... said we had a deal in place for a coach, but didn't say who
now it's back up... don't know what is going on
His very next tweet cracks me up.
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699980882968707
Lol that's gold
We truly have the dumbest fanbase in all of the universe.
so we have our coach, but if the media finds out, things could change. does this idiot not realize that he's putting this shit out on the most popular social MEDIA site?
strike that, do the idiots that believe this guy not realize that?
Whatever happens, you can bet that we will out clown the LSU circus.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 12, 2025, 03:36 PMHis very next tweet cracks me up.
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699980882968707
what's the story behind this retard getting banned on Hogville? Also I hope since he's banned there he doesn't migrate here. He's a fucking tard
So then, he could be right...but then things could change.
Look it up, I was the one who came up with the "I was right, but things change" mocking of Hogville. It was about Bert. I want my cookie and my just reward.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 12, 2025, 01:00 PMwho is the guy that said it was 4/10? like who is he.
this is from his podcast page:
Burning Sage is a (mostly) weekly podcast with college basketball's most interesting coaches and newsmakers. Hosted by Curry Hicks Sage, a pseudonymous internet poster turned insider, the show takes true college hoop heads behind the curtain for lengthy and substantive looks at the sport's most interesting figures.
Some incell with a x account
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 12, 2025, 04:05 PMwhat's the story behind this retard getting banned on Hogville? Also I hope since he's banned there he doesn't migrate here. He's a fucking tard
I love the way he left himself a way out. "Things could change." And when they do, he can say say, see I was right! What a dipshit.
We will hire a coach.
I'm 100% right.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 12, 2025, 03:36 PMHis very next tweet cracks me up.
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699980882968707
There is no doubt this guy has sat in the cuck chair multiple times in his life.
Deal is never done until the ring is on the finger and paperwork signed
Quote from: razor5396 on Nov 12, 2025, 04:48 PMThere is no doubt this guy has sat in the cuck chair multiple times in his life.
He looks kinda familiar
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-1/118243928_10221963551053167_3818799052066829246_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s200x200_tt6&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=1d2534&_nc_ohc=-lt6O8OlciMQ7kNvwHJMDXH&_nc_oc=Adl6t_NOyRJw3fxbUDuujgPLfLnC7aSpSeKkNwb_RMZPSu1NlsYbBFq1EfEPxVsLy-I&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&_nc_gid=OlGWcERPDgo0ZBRBRwWPvg&oh=00_AfhaqckQWfHbjac6TPGRCxQPGCV_4zJYwZ4y-GWXPHBSWg&oe=693C6A33)
wut the
https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ncaa/dabo-swinney-leave-clemson-tigers-arkansas-razorbacks-11026204
1/10
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 12, 2025, 06:46 PM1/10
you bet. won't happen, but a guy with 14 10+ seasons and 4 14+ seasons and went to the playoffs last year would be a terrible hire.
I get the feeling that our program is now looked at as a place a coach can come to get paid, without winning a lot. We have put ourselves in that position. Teams like eATMe and LSU ended up paying coaches, but they were at least expected to win and maybe win championships. We seems to only want someone who can get us to a bowl.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 12, 2025, 06:50 PMyou bet. won't happen, but a guy with 14 10+ seasons and 4 14+ seasons and went to the playoffs last year would be a terrible hire.
No way in hell we could get that lucky.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 12, 2025, 05:03 PMHe looks kinda familiar
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-1/118243928_10221963551053167_3818799052066829246_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s200x200_tt6&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=1d2534&_nc_ohc=-lt6O8OlciMQ7kNvwHJMDXH&_nc_oc=Adl6t_NOyRJw3fxbUDuujgPLfLnC7aSpSeKkNwb_RMZPSu1NlsYbBFq1EfEPxVsLy-I&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&_nc_gid=OlGWcERPDgo0ZBRBRwWPvg&oh=00_AfhaqckQWfHbjac6TPGRCxQPGCV_4zJYwZ4y-GWXPHBSWg&oe=693C6A33)
Yeah I bet she has whalequim cove between her legs.
Is the Aggy fanbase even as easy to make fun of as we are?
https://x.com/joshteeter01/status/1988668428618723755?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
This thread is retarded like our program.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 02:09 PMhttps://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1988699230752677927?
Is this the guy y'all call Duckman? With the wife that sings all the patriotic songs in a bikini on Lake Hamilton?
well, guess he took it down... said we had a deal in place for a coach, but didn't say who
now it's back up... don't know what is going on
He calls himself Duckman in his profile, has a duck banner above, and his wife looks way too good for him and has nice jugs. Definitely him.
Quote from: razor5396 on Nov 12, 2025, 04:48 PMThere is no doubt this guy has sat in the cuck chair multiple times in his life.
So Duckman is Cuckman?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 12, 2025, 09:34 PMSo Duckman is Cuckman?
You post your wife's tits to a bunch of anonymous retards on the internet and continue to make outlandish claims only to be proven wrong later down the road thus making yourself look more pathetic. Yeah, I think you have a humiliation fetish and enjoy seeing your wife ogled and fucked by other dudes. Maybe Woopig turned him into a cuck
All I've seen mentioned today was Franklin. Yuck. Unless it comes with top tier NIL money from some rich chicken killer then...meh.
Dabo? Interesting. Dabo coaches circles around Franklin.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 12, 2025, 09:12 PMHe calls himself Duckman in his profile, has a duck banner above, and his wife looks way too good for him and has nice jugs. Definitely him.
Okay, so it is Scott Bales. His wife is very attractive. Think her name is Shari. Could be wrong.
PJ Fleck is exactly the kind of coach that would win 8 or 9 games one time and then be fired after back to back sub-.500 years.
She's not attractive. They are white trash. I think she's running for some office.
I think I remember Hacker's wife's tits don't know about Duckman's wife titties...not sure we ever got to see them.
Nothing is official until there is a memorandum of understanding.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 11:43 PMOkay, so it is Scott Bales. His wife is very attractive. Think her name is Shari. Could be wrong.
You're not wrong...69806014_1591843537619759_653490389461762048_n.jpg
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 13, 2025, 08:24 AMYou're not wrong...69806014_1591843537619759_653490389461762048_n.jpg
Definitely a glamor shot, but she's attractive for her age.
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 13, 2025, 08:24 AMYou're not wrong...69806014_1591843537619759_653490389461762048_n.jpg
Wood.
She's weathered white trash. Hangs like sleeve of wizard.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 13, 2025, 09:01 AMShe's weathered white trash. Hangs like sleeve of wizard.
She's probably well north of 50. There aren't many women that age that aren't showing wear without having work done.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 13, 2025, 09:12 AMShe's probably well north of 50. There aren't many women that age that aren't showing wear without having work done.
Can you imagine living with a woman that vain.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 13, 2025, 09:17 AMCan you imagine living with a woman that vain.
I cannot, and am fortunate to have a wife who isn't self-centered.
Calling duckman at the RV dealer to see what today's intel is.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 13, 2025, 08:26 AMDefinitely a glamor shot, but she's attractive for her age.
Any average looking gal with fakers, overbleached teeth and hair, a lake trash tan and layers of Maybelline is going to look exactly like this.
https://www.facebook.com/HotSpringsArkansasRealEstateSource/
Of course she is a real estate agent in Hot Springs.
Good money that Duckman and HTL are one in the same.
Was about to say, looks like hot springs fashionable trash. Indeed it is
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 13, 2025, 10:03 AMhttps://www.facebook.com/HotSpringsArkansasRealEstateSource/
Of course she is a real estate agent in Hot Springs.
Good money that Duckman and HTL are one in the same.
I'm not even a FT resident. He's a fucking RV salesman.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 13, 2025, 10:38 AMWas about to say, looks like hot springs fashionable trash. Indeed it is
I think she's more Mountain Pine. Definitely bottom of the barrel though.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 12, 2025, 11:43 PMOkay, so it is Scott Bales. His wife is very attractive. Think her name is Shari. Could be wrong.
I would.
I'd let him watch too.
I'm glad my life isn't so miserable that I have to come on WooPig and talk bad about some woman I've never had any dealings with.
Why don't you guys post pics of your wives and let us compare?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 13, 2025, 04:33 PMI'm glad my life isn't so miserable that I have to come on WooPig and talk bad about some woman I've never had any dealings with.
Why don't you guys post pics of your wives and let us compare?
You new here?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 13, 2025, 04:33 PMI'm glad my life isn't so miserable that I have to come on WooPig and talk bad about some woman I've never had any dealings with.
Why don't you guys post pics of your wives and let us compare?
I think when the man himself made bets on wide receiver commitments and starting sharing the pictures of his wife as bets, he invited that. I don't see a lot of people commenting on other random wives.
Crazy invites crazy.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 13, 2025, 03:37 PMI would.
I'd let him watch too.
Hell yes. I don't care what these guys are saying. She looks pretty good to this old man.
Duckman looks like a serial pedophile if I've bee seen one.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 13, 2025, 06:25 PMHell yes. I don't care what these guys are saying. She looks pretty good to this old man.
They are just a bunch of jealous bitches.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 13, 2025, 10:38 AMWas about to say, looks like hot springs fashionable trash. Indeed it is
I had an ole girl from Bismarck for a spell. She kinda looked like that...it was pretty damn good.
This thread took a turn, coaching search must have become dull...
She's 48. Realtors always crazy good pics but she's hot. I'm not going to knock it.
Does he own the RV dealership? If not I have questions...
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 13, 2025, 06:33 PMThey are just a bunch of jealous bitches.
Jealous of the dude who has a wife who let's you share her tit pics to a bunch of degenerate strangers. I suppose it's possible.
So you want to derail an important thread? Easy. Just bring up Duckman's wife's tits.
Unlike Sex Panther, it works EVERY time.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 13, 2025, 04:54 PMI think when the man himself made bets on wide receiver commitments and starting sharing the pictures of his wife as bets, he invited that. I don't see a lot of people commenting on other random wives.
Crazy invites crazy.
Yeah, Woopig didn't just latch on to some goal of "let's dig up pics of this guy's wife and sexualize her." Bro posted her tits so we didn't have do do any of the hard work phrasing.
https://x.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1989113547620774191
Not that Message Board Geniuses ever knows anything, but we're going to hire Fleck.
Duh, we didn't want him once we secretly signed Gruden.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 14, 2025, 07:15 AMNot that Message Board Geniuses ever knows anything, but we're going to hire Fleck.
I hope they're right.
It would be on brand to hire a .606 head coach who in year 9 has his team 6-3 and 7th place in the B1G.
Okay, this is interesting. Not sure if there is something to it or wishful thinking but it would bring the money. And a guy isn't going to retire that you without doing something else even if he is filthy rich.
https://x.com/brenthull94/status/1989323471852044649?s=46
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 14, 2025, 07:25 AMIt would be on brand to hire a .606 head coach who in year 9 has his team 6-3 and 7th place in the B1G.
too bad the guy (Jerry Kill) before him has the medical problem, he'd be who you would want assuming he's not 70 now.
I think Kill has something to do with Vandy
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 14, 2025, 07:41 AMOkay, this is interesting. Not sure if there is something to it or wishful thinking but it would bring the money. And a guy isn't going to retire that you without doing something else even if he is filthy rich.
https://x.com/brenthull94/status/1989323471852044649?s=46
Heard he's not planning to stick around NWA.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 14, 2025, 07:41 AMOkay, this is interesting. Not sure if there is something to it or wishful thinking but it would bring the money. And a guy isn't going to retire that you without doing something else even if he is filthy rich.
https://x.com/brenthull94/status/1989323471852044649?s=46
CSB time.
Furner was the guy who got hired to nominally replace me once I quit the Supercenter in Springdale back in the day.
He also ended up marrying the most attractive employee at the store.
John is also a UA grad, so we will get to keep an alum in the most prominent role in the company.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 14, 2025, 07:48 AMCSB time.
Furner was the guy who got hired to nominally replace me once I quit the Supercenter in Springdale back in the day.
He also ended up marrying the most attractive employee at the store.
John is also a UA grad, so we will get to keep an alum in the most prominent role in the company.
I'll match your CSB.
In about 1994, I was an asst. manager at a Walmarks outside of Memphis. I took an opportunity to transfer to a store in Camdenton, MO (Lake of the Ozarks) The guy that took my place was Quinn Grovey. He later moved up to the home office and then to Home depot. I ran into him at War Memorial one year and we talked about it.
I always told people that I was so valuable, they had to get a 2 time SWC champion to fill my shoes. :D
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 14, 2025, 08:22 AMI'll match your CSB.
In about 1994, I was an asst. manager at a Walmarks outside of Memphis. I took an opportunity to transfer to a store in Camdenton, MO (Lake of the Ozarks) The guy that took my place was Quinn Grovey. He later moved up to the home office and then to Home depot. I ran into him at War Memorial one year and we talked about it.
I always told people that I was so valuable, they had to get a 2 time SWC champion to fill my shoes. :D
Didn't Quinn end up being a personnel manager at some point?
I know Charles Balentine was in that role when I was working for them. He hired Shawn Davis who was one of my roommates at the time into the management program. Balentine hired a lot of former athletes into the program if I remember right.
I know nothing. But I heard a side taking that says he does know who we are talking to and will hire. He says it's someone no one is talking about. And this person reached out to us.
The easy he talked makes me thinks it's dabo
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 14, 2025, 08:26 AMDidn't Quinn end up being a personnel manager at some point?
I know Charles Balentine was in that role when I was working for them. He hired Shawn Davis who was one of my roommates at the time into the management program. Balentine hired a lot of former athletes into the program if I remember right.
Yes, I think they made him do 6 months as an asst. mgr first, before putting him in that role.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 08:28 AMI know nothing. But I heard a side taking that says he does know who we are talking to and will hire. He says it's someone no one is talking about. And this person reached out to us.
Makes me thinks it's dabo
I have zero inside information on anything coaching search related this time, but something tells me Lincoln Riley might be the guy. He would probably like to get back to this region as he never really seemed like a fit for the southern California lifestyle even with a shit ton of money. A big reason that he left OU was to dodge the competition that he knew they would face with a limited roster in the SEC relative to the opposition. Then USC turned around and bolted for a similar spot in the B1G, but with cross country travel half the season. And of course there's the fact that he hasn't won to the level USC expected, and we might be a lifeline to extend his career a few more years.
Wouldn't be opposed to that.
matt campbell would be my guess for a out of left field nobody's talking about guy.
I wish it would be Lanning but it won't be.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 14, 2025, 08:34 AMI have zero inside information on anything coaching search related this time, but something tells me Lincoln Riley might be the guy. He would probably like to get back to this region as he never really seemed like a fit for the southern California lifestyle even with a shit ton of money. A big reason that he left OU was to dodge the competition that he knew they would face with a limited roster in the SEC relative to the opposition. Then USC turned around and bolted for a similar spot in the B1G, but with cross country travel half the season. And of course there's the fact that he hasn't won to the level USC expected, and we might be a lifeline to extend his career a few more years.
Pate says Riley is going somewhere.
If he's trying to escape a challenging schedule he would take one look at ours and vomit.
We regularly have the toughest schedule in the country (or around the top 5).
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 14, 2025, 08:51 AMmatt campbell would be my guess for a out of left field nobody's talking about guy.
I would be in favor of that.
Riley would be doing good to get 8 wins here. You think our defense is bad now? He still doesn't care about that side. He'll go to the nfl first.
Matt Campbell would be really good. Really really good.
Meh...I would rather have Petrino than Campbell.
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1989359370975551804
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 14, 2025, 10:01 AMhttps://x.com/On3sports/status/1989359370975551804
Do not want as HC, would love as DC.
people just throwing shit up against the wall.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 14, 2025, 09:56 AMMeh...I would rather have Petrino than Campbell.
Same. Just saying.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 14, 2025, 10:03 AMDo not want as HC, would love as DC.
People say this nonsense...has he ever coordinated a defense?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 14, 2025, 09:49 AMRiley would be doing good to get 8 wins here. You think our defense is bad now? He still doesn't care about that side. He'll go to the nfl first.
Matt Campbell would be really good. Really really good.
Riley is a pussy that was scared of SEC competition. Agree he would go to the NFL instead coming to Arkansas. Just think of the jokes we would get. It would really drive home the point that coaches come here for a paycheck.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 14, 2025, 10:01 AMhttps://x.com/On3sports/status/1989359370975551804
If Orgeron is hired, they will need to free up a salary for a interpreter. Very few in NWA will be able to understand anything he says.
When he was at Ole Miss, I used to go over there for scrimmages. I would ask a friend, who grew up in Lafayette, if he wanted to go with me to interpret. ;D
No worries...
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Let's just hope the Orgeron rumors are indeed just someone throwing up shit against the wall. I think he would be terrible.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 10:21 AMPeople say this nonsense...has he ever coordinated a defense?
works for me
Orgeron began coaching in 1984 as a graduate assistant at Northwestern State and the following year coached at McNeese State in Lake Charles, Louisiana.[10][12] He then served two years as an assistant strength coach under Ken Hatfield at the University of Arkansas. In 1988, he moved to the University of Miami as defensive line coach under then-head coach Jimmy Johnson and his successor, Dennis Erickson. He coached eight All-Americans (including NFL first-round draft choices Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp). While he was with the Hurricanes, the program won two national championships (in 1989 and 1991), and he recruited a young Dwayne Johnson (later known as "The Rock" in his professional wrestling and film careers) as a defensive lineman.[13]
Orgeron returned to coaching in 1994 but as a volunteer linebackers coach at Nicholls State University.[16][17] The following year, he moved from the south to the northeastern U.S., accepting a job with head coach Paul Pasqualoni's staff at Syracuse University, where he coached the defensive line for three years.[14][18] Orgeron credited Pasqualoni for giving him a second chance at major-college coaching (after his prior personal issues had damaged his 'hireability') and helping him develop as a coach on and off the field.[16]
In 1998, Orgeron was hired by offensive guru Paul Hackett, the newly hired head coach of USC (the University of Southern California), to coach the Trojans defensive line.[19] After Hackett's 2000 firing, Orgeron was one of a handful of coaches retained by Hackett's replacement, Pete Carroll, a defensive specialist. The two had met during a high school football game when Carroll was still only a candidate for the head coach position and connected over their shared passion for recruiting.[20] During the Carroll years, USC enjoyed much success, including two (Associated Press) National Championships. Orgeron took on the added responsibility of Recruiting Coordinator in 2001 and was named assistant head coach in 2003.[14] Orgeron won National Recruiter of the Year honors in 2004, the same year he was hired by Ole Miss to replace head coach David Cutcliffe.[20]
Because this is Razorback football we are talking about:
1. Against all odds, Bobby will finish the remaining schedule 3-0.
2. HY will have already secretly inked a multi-year, multi-million dollar deal with some mid who will proceed to stack 5-7 win seasons until he is fired in 5 years.
3. Meanwhile, BP will be hired elsewhere in the SEC as HC or OC and make it his life's mission to inflict as much pain upon the University of Arkansas as is humanly possible.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 14, 2025, 11:02 AMworks for me
Orgeron began coaching in 1984 as a graduate assistant at Northwestern State and the following year coached at McNeese State in Lake Charles, Louisiana.[10][12] He then served two years as an assistant strength coach under Ken Hatfield at the University of Arkansas. In 1988, he moved to the University of Miami as defensive line coach under then-head coach Jimmy Johnson and his successor, Dennis Erickson. He coached eight All-Americans (including NFL first-round draft choices Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp). While he was with the Hurricanes, the program won two national championships (in 1989 and 1991), and he recruited a young Dwayne Johnson (later known as "The Rock" in his professional wrestling and film careers) as a defensive lineman.[13]
Orgeron returned to coaching in 1994 but as a volunteer linebackers coach at Nicholls State University.[16][17] The following year, he moved from the south to the northeastern U.S., accepting a job with head coach Paul Pasqualoni's staff at Syracuse University, where he coached the defensive line for three years.[14][18] Orgeron credited Pasqualoni for giving him a second chance at major-college coaching (after his prior personal issues had damaged his 'hireability') and helping him develop as a coach on and off the field.[16]
In 1998, Orgeron was hired by offensive guru Paul Hackett, the newly hired head coach of USC (the University of Southern California), to coach the Trojans defensive line.[19] After Hackett's 2000 firing, Orgeron was one of a handful of coaches retained by Hackett's replacement, Pete Carroll, a defensive specialist. The two had met during a high school football game when Carroll was still only a candidate for the head coach position and connected over their shared passion for recruiting.[20] During the Carroll years, USC enjoyed much success, including two (Associated Press) National Championships. Orgeron took on the added responsibility of Recruiting Coordinator in 2001 and was named assistant head coach in 2003.[14] Orgeron won National Recruiter of the Year honors in 2004, the same year he was hired by Ole Miss to replace head coach David Cutcliffe.[20]
So never coordinated a D and no indication he's ever been anything other than a recruiting mercenary. Fourth dumbest fanbase!
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 11:36 AMSo never coordinated a D and no indication he's ever been anything other than a recruiting mercenary. Fourth dumbest fanbase!
Hire him as DL/co-DC with someone to actually call plays. Pay him a coordinator's salary.
If Bobby is the HC, O wouldn't be any worse as a coordinator than any of the guys he had, either here or elsewhere. The bar for that is low.
We gotta stop with the Bobby HC stuff.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 11:42 AMWe gotta stop with the Bobby HC stuff.
I think he's missed his opportunity.
A win over texas could change that in the minds of the people writing the checks.
https://x.com/carltontsaffa/status/1989340774865977817?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/carltontsaffa/status/1989340774865977817?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Why have we not run Bo's bitch ass out of this state yet? He sure runs his mouth a lot for a tiny fella.
a team has as much chance of getting ole miss orgeron as they do lsu orgeron. and when he decides he's not interested any longer, his teams fall hard.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 14, 2025, 09:56 AMMeh...I would rather have Petrino than Campbell.
what about campbell or dabo with petrino as oc? go get durkin. boom.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 11:45 AMHe sure runs his mouth a lot for a tiny fella.
:rofl:
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 11:56 AMwhat about campbell or dabo with petrino as oc? go get durkin. boom.
Yeah...sure sure lol
Since we are throwing names out there id like to poach Dan Campbell from the Lions and have Bob Petrino as OC.
Quote from: animal on Nov 14, 2025, 12:35 PMSince we are throwing names out there id like to poach Dan Campbell from the Lions and have Bob Petrino as OC.
Dan Skipper would probably approve. That's the standard we look for here...right?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 14, 2025, 12:37 PMDan Skipper would probably approve. That's the standard we look for here...right?
Last time we listened to Dan Tripper, we got BLS.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 14, 2025, 12:57 PMLast time we listened to Dan Tripper, we got BLS.
Nice
More retarded stuff
https://x.com/unnecroughness/status/1989367690759487941?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
No one amplifies the voice of the clueless retards quite like Arkansas
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 14, 2025, 09:35 AMWe regularly have the toughest schedule in the country (or around the top 5).
That is because we are in the SEC and we never get to play...us.
Dabo Swinney would be poetic since Ken Hatfield bolted for Clemson without even visiting the campus.
I'd take Dabo in a heartbeat. My second realistic choice behind Bobby. Unless Saban has a fever for the helmet.
The way all these assholes are oohing and ahhing, it better be Saban.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 14, 2025, 05:41 PMDabo Swinney would be poetic since Ken Hatfield bolted for Clemson without even visiting the campus.
I'd take Dabo in a heartbeat. My second realistic choice behind Bobby. Unless Saban has a fever for the helmet.
Most of Dabo's current issues are due to hiring crappy assistants or to micromanaging them. A new start might do him some good, but he's not going to get the same success he had at Clemson here at Arkansas. He will stack the team with talent though, and once in awhile that might be all we need to at least be in contention for a CFP spot.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 14, 2025, 05:41 PMDabo Swinney would be poetic since Ken Hatfield bolted for Clemson without even visiting the campus.
I'd take Dabo in a heartbeat. My second realistic choice behind Bobby. Unless Saban has a fever for the helmet.
But I hate Dabo. His personality makes me puke.
Even though Cal was the enemy, at least I LIKED him before he came over here.
Little Bo and Chuck the cuck say Franklin was always a pipe dream so preparing people for disappointment.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 14, 2025, 05:49 PMBut I hate Dabo. His personality makes me puke.
Even though Cal was the enemy, at least I LIKED him before he came over here.
He's got some Gomer Pyle tardation going on, but he's had a run at Clemson that's been beyond impressive up until recently. I always thought he'd be Saban's replacement but someone didn't like his goofy ass in Tuscaloosa.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 14, 2025, 05:45 PMMost of Dabo's current issues are due to hiring crappy assistants or to micromanaging them. A new start might do him some good, but he's not going to get the same success he had at Clemson here at Arkansas. He will stack the team with talent though, and once in awhile that might be all we need to at least be in contention for a CFP spot.
The difference in the realistic candidates is negligible as far as I'm concerned. Arkansas is tough gig, no matter the coach. NIL is the great equalizer if our plethora of rich boosters wants to gift the university to purchase players. They just can't hire another Pittman or get conned by a used car salesman like the Chadster.
Every hire is the biggest hire in the history of the program. The PTB on the Hill have gotten it wrong for almost 15 years. It's time to make a good choice because none of us are getting younger.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 07:51 PMLittle Bo and Chuck the cuck say Franklin was always a pipe dream so preparing people for disappointment.
So we probably never gave Petrino a serious look because we threw all our eggs in the James Franklin basket, and now we're being softened for the most underwhelming hire in this year's carousel.
https://x.com/pinto479/status/1989452474785120676?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 14, 2025, 08:05 PMSo we probably never gave Petrino a serious look because we threw all our eggs in the James Franklin basket, and now we're being softened for the most underwhelming hire in this year's carousel.
If that's true wouldn't we still have plenty of time to give Petrino a serious look?
I thought we were all in agreement he had to win a couple of games to be given a serious look. He obviously hasn't done that.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 07:51 PMpreparing people for disappointment.
It was never going to go any other way unless they hire Petrino. No one else wants to touch this job. We are lucky someone of his caliber wants it. Hire him and give him lots of NIl to buy good players and he will win big and and make the job attractive again.
Drake Lindsey and PJ Fleck looking pretty fucking mediocre against a good Oregon team.
We already look like that when we play bama, Georgia, etc.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Nov 14, 2025, 08:42 PMIt was never going to go any other way unless they hire Petrino. No one else wants to touch this job. We are lucky someone of his caliber wants it. Hire him and give him lots of NIl to buy good players and he will win big and and make the job attractive again.
Jesus.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 08:55 PMDrake Lindsey and PJ Fleck looking pretty fucking mediocre against a good Oregon team.
We already look like that when we play bama, Georgia, etc.
You mean to say "pretty fucking qualified" right?
Like Dabo is looking qualified with his Clemson team against Louisville right now. I'm not sure if I'm watching really good football or really bad football. The Klubnik effect.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 14, 2025, 08:57 PMJesus.
Disagree, I don't think Piggielicious is Jesus. Although Jesus would probably pick a handle like that.
Apparently fleck doesn't teach tackling
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 09:06 PMApparently fleck doesn't teach tackling
He sounds perfect
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 09:06 PMApparently fleck doesn't teach tackling
He'll love it here.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 09:06 PMApparently fleck doesn't teach tackling
I remember when everyone wanted Fleck. It was couple of years ago. He, apparently, was a flash in the pan. We will probably choose a flash in the pan. Someone who is doing good this year, but will fail miserably here.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 09:09 AMI remember when everyone wanted Fleck. It was couple of years ago. He, apparently, was a flash in the pan. We will probably choose a flash in the pan. Someone who is doing good this year, but will fail miserably here.
Yup. I was in that boat (pun intended). I'd argue that the program would probably have been better with him than Sam. However, he's not as good of a coach as I had thought at the time... like you said, flash in a pan.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 09:09 AMI remember when everyone wanted Fleck. It was couple of years ago. He, apparently, was a flash in the pan. We will probably choose a flash in the pan. Someone who is doing good this year, but will fail miserably here.
We're far more likely to hire a former flash in the pan that no one else wants anymore
Nabors says we whiffed on Franklin. Is anyone but VT even trying to hire the guy?
Quote from: HTL on Nov 15, 2025, 10:31 AMNabors says we whiffed on Franklin. Is anyone but VT even trying to hire the guy?
Who would have ever thought that he'd balk so hard at $7 million per year!?
Quote from: passed on Nov 15, 2025, 09:57 AMYup. I was in that boat (pun intended). I'd argue that the program would probably have been better with him than Sam. However, he's not as good of a coach as I had thought at the time... like you said, flash in a pan.
Or maybe programs like Minnesota & Arkansas have a ceiling, and it was 2010-11 that was the flash in the pan.
Commitment to win by the administration and the ability to win at the program will outweigh coaches salaries now. Salaries for assistant coaches will be important as well.
Just hire Bobby. This shit ain't hard to figure out. We're hang points on people. Give him a chance to fix the defense. Why is there any hesitation? Every time we need a coach all the stupid people start naming A list coaches like they're really going to entertain the idea of coming here. Bobby has unfinished business and will be focused.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 15, 2025, 10:50 AMOr maybe programs like Minnesota & Arkansas have a ceiling, and it was 2010-11 that was the flash in the pan.
In our hearts, we know you're right.
Quote from: HogWildPigCrazy on Nov 15, 2025, 11:33 AMJust hire Bobby. This shit ain't hard to figure out. We're hang points on people. Give him a chance to fix the defense. Why is there any hesitation? Every time we need a coach all the stupid people start naming A list coaches like they're really going to entertain the idea of coming here. Bobby has unfinished business and will be focused.
This. He should have been recruiting players and assistants this whole time.
Quote from: HogWildPigCrazy on Nov 15, 2025, 11:33 AMJust hire Bobby. This shit ain't hard to figure out. We're hang points on people. Give him a chance to fix the defense. Why is there any hesitation? Every time we need a coach all the stupid people start naming A list coaches like they're really going to entertain the idea of coming here. Bobby has unfinished business and will be focused.
I'm coming around to this. He's the best coach that actually wants the job. Name him HC before the Texas game.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 15, 2025, 11:59 AMI'm coming around to this. He's the best coach that actually wants the job. Name him HC before the Texas game.
Just support the opposite of what HTL wants, and you have the right answer.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Nov 15, 2025, 12:43 PMJust support the opposite of what HTL wants, and you have the right answer.
That's it!! What a faggot.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 15, 2025, 12:47 PMWhat a faggot.
Assume the opposite of what he says. He projects.
I think Green is working his ass off to make certain Bobby P has no shot at the job.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 15, 2025, 12:53 PMI think Green is working his ass off to make certain Bobby P has no shot at the job.
and the OL and defense
Amazing we continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory game after game and people still want Bobby
"Throwing up points on people"... we put up 22 today, that's not enough in the modern era in the SEC
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 03:14 PMAmazing we continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory game after game and people still want Bobby
"Throwing up points on people"... we put up 22 today, that's not enough in the modern era in the SEC
And 7 of those came from the blocked punt.
Top 5 offense in the SEC even with the head case QB. No one yet has listed a viable alternative to Bobby that isn't pure retardium.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 03:14 PMAmazing we continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory game after game and people still want Bobby
"Throwing up points on people"... we put up 22 today, that's not enough in the modern era in the SEC
I understand. We had some good times, back then. That was a long time ago with a different Bobby and a different era of football.
To quote the great Arkansan and American "At this point, what difference does it make?".
We just passed Vanderbilt as the worst team in the league over the past 12 years. I don't know how you get past that.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 15, 2025, 03:38 PMI understand. We had some good times, back then. That was a long time ago with a different Bobby and a different era of football.
Agree, I will always appreciate and be grateful for Bobby and angry at Jeff Long.
I was a season ticket holder then even living in DFW, dropped the tickets at that point.
Petrino failed at Louisville in his 2nd stent and didn't do much at Missouri St.
Would I take him back as OC? Sure. He'll be 65, maybe he could hang in a few more years.
Who do I want as head coach? Take a shot on someone who could be the real deal and make us the next Indiana, not another "has been" or "never was".
Morris really fucked up the psyche of our fanbase. He was an awful hire and completely undeserving of the opportunity. If we hired someone with a 14-22 record at a mid-level again, I'd be pissed. We can do better, but have to take a risk.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 15, 2025, 03:54 PMTo quote the great Arkansan and American "At this point, what difference does it make?".
We just passed Vanderbilt as the worst team in the league over the past 12 years. I don't know how you get past that.
That's because their AD clearly makes better hires than ours, not because they have advantages
HY must be on the way out. I can't believe he takes that CFP job if he gave a shit about his job at Arkansas. As in wanting to keep it.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 03:59 PMAgree, I will always appreciate and be grateful for Bobby and angry at Jeff Long.
I was a season ticket holder then even living in DFW, dropped the tickets at that point.
Petrino failed at Louisville in his 2nd stent and didn't do much at Missouri St.
Would I take him back as OC? Sure. He'll be 65, maybe he could hang in a few more years.
Who do I want as head coach? Take a shot on someone who could be the real deal and make us the next Indiana, not another "has been" or "never was".
Morris really fucked up the psyche of our fanbase. He was an awful hire and completely undeserving of the opportunity. If we hired someone with a 14-22 record at a mid-level again, I'd be pissed. We can do better, but have to take a risk.
I've said it a few times, but I'll say it again. Take Bobby for now. I see nothing in the market worth the gamble and we're competing against a LOT of high caliber programs for coaches. Rather than pay out again in a few years, give Bobby a 3yr deal with incentives and maybe a bit lower annual salary... Then in a few years when we aren't competing with every Tom, Dick, or Harry out there, go out and get a winner. If Bobby does well in the 3yrs, you can reevaluate. If he doesn't, we're not really worse off... have no real buyout to pay, and the fan base can finally be over the BMFP hangover one way or the other.
If we were one of the only big jobs open, that opinion may be different... but given how many are open and what the market looks like, I just don't see a better attainable option.
Another over the hill placeholder coach "for a few years until we get better"?
So we can continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against teams we have the talent to beat because we're playing neck and neck with them?
Sorry, FUCK that.
And I LOVE Bobby.
I would take Bobby over a lot of the names I see mentioned snd certainly over another Pittman type hire. I don't really care though. This season was entirely foreseeable a couple three years ago when it was clear where Pittman was going. I want everybody in the AD department who even thought about the football program fired.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 04:14 PMAnother over the hill placeholder coach "for a few years until we get better"?
So we can continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against teams we have the talent to beat because we're playing neck and neck with them?
Sorry, FUCK that.
And I LOVE Bobby.
I totally see your point. I'll say in this case, though, it's Bobby. That's a helluva coach to have as a "placeholder". Though, the way I'm looking at it isn't as a placeholder. He's the HC. He has a 3yr deal and he'll either work out or not. I think if Bobby had this same team all off season (as the HC), we'd have different results this year. Maybe that's the BMFP rose colored glasses I sport... but I can't conceive of him producing our current results if he were HC all of season, and didn't have the Sam funk. I could be totally wrong, and Bobby could be part of the problem, over the hill, and no longer his old winning self. That's totally possible especially given some results he had since he left here the first time. At least in my scenario we have a known proven HC at the helm, with no real buyout, and we aren't gambling on whoever we could manage to grab while competing with so many other programs.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 04:14 PMAnother over the hill placeholder coach "for a few years until we get better"?
So we can continue to repeatedly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against teams we have the talent to beat because we're playing neck and neck with them?
Sorry, FUCK that.
And I LOVE Bobby.
I painfully agree. I'd love for Bobby to warrant another shot, or obviously to have had a full shot last time around.
But he's not doing enough to earn it.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 15, 2025, 04:20 PMI painfully agree. I'd love for Bobby to warrant another shot, or obviously to have had a full shot last time around.
But he's not doing enough to earn it.
I don't disagree. I think he was set up for failure and hasn't earned it. I'm just looking at the options and to me, he's the best option in this case. So give him the short deal (long enough to do something, but short enough to be able to move on).
Yurachek is entirely culpable because Pittman was not a coach any FBS team other than Arkansas was going to hire. If you hire him as a "placeholder" then you give him a contract with a one season buyout and guarantee him 3 years and nothing else.
The extension and buyout was inexplicable. Was Alabama coming for him, come on?
He did a decent job replenishing the roster and building a team didn't look like it belonged in the FCS, but when he peaked it was time to move on. Two years ago we should've politely eased him into retirement. With no buyout, it wouldn't even be contentious.
Yurachek is on the hook for that whole scenario.
Nobody else in the FBS would hire Bobby based on his track record post-Arkansas, either. Last season at Louisville made our team this year look exemplary in comparison. If you guys get your way I hope we don't give him an equally dumbass contract because his phone won't be ringing, either.
I do kind of wonder if we even had the requirement to look for another job in Pittman's contract or since it was a given he couldn't get a DI head coaching job anyway they didn't bother. I mean, not putting it in in the first place is pretty damn telling you don't need a significant buyout.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 15, 2025, 04:20 PMI painfully agree. I'd love for Bobby to warrant another shot, or obviously to have had a full shot last time around.
But he's not doing enough to earn it.
Sadly, I agree. Having said that, if we're going to end up with Kane Wommack then just keep Bobby. Or burn it down.
As a reminder this was Petrino's 5th year at Louisville, the year that got him fired:
Overall: 2-10 (0-8 ACC)
Alabama L 14–51
Indiana State W 31–7
Western Kentucky W 20–17
Virginia L 3–27
Florida State L 24–28
Georgia Tech L 31–66
Boston College L 20–38
Wake Forest L 35–56
Clemson L 16–77
Syracuse L 23–54
NC State L 10–52
Kentucky L 10–56
They were multiple scores away from being competitive in any conference game, even Wake Forest
You want to hire him, defend the last season he had as a head coach in the FBS
No matter who they hire it's going to be a rebuild
Bobby wasn't given a team that can win so you have to figure that into everything but he isn't exactly dazzling with his wits. These close losses don't have the vibe of the year 1 Bobby team led by Dick. I think that team played hard and sucked but still won 5 games.
OK, they were within one score of Florida State.
Still, that's a Chad Morris type of season
Whoever we hire, I want them to at least have the fire BP has. Get on the officials asses when they fuck up. Chew some ass on the sidelines when your player fucks up. Make the team fundamentally sound.
Quote from: animal on Nov 15, 2025, 04:41 PMNo matter who they hire it's going to be a rebuild
Bobby wasn't given a team that can win so you have to figure that into everything but he isn't exactly dazzling with his wits. These close losses don't have the vibe of the year 1 Bobby team led by Dick. I think that team played hard and sucked but still won 5 games.
Bobby was 47 then, he's 64 now.
My 6-3 kid that can dunk wasn't born yet
I would love to have "2009-2011 Petrino at Arkansas" back. It can't happen.
College football is a very different game now vs then.
A whole wave of HS HUNH coaches made it big, fizzled, and the world has now moved on.
NIL, transfers, etc.
Instead of looking backward I think you need to look forward.
Remember when Texas Tech hired Joey Maguire and we all thought they were batshit crazy? A few years as an assistant at Baylor and no head coaching or even coordinator experience?
How crazy are they now?
You need someone, like Maguire or Kiffin, that understands how to navigate the current CFB landscape. You won't get those guys, but you start by looking for guys that have the best understanding of it.
I give up, though. Let's keep sucking forever. I'll be back when there's a basketball game.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 04:58 PMBobby was 47 then, he's 64 now.
My 6-3 kid that can dunk wasn't born yet
I would love to have "2009-2011 Petrino at Arkansas" back. It can't happen.
College football is a very different game now vs then.
A whole wave of HS HUNH coaches made it big, fizzled, and the world has now moved on.
NIL, transfers, etc.
Instead of looking backward I think you need to look forward.
Remember when Texas Tech hired Joey Maguire and we all thought they were batshit crazy? A few years as an assistant at Baylor and no head coaching or even coordinator experience?
How crazy are they now?
You need someone, like Maguire or Kiffin, that understands how to navigate the current CFB landscape. You won't get those guys, but you start by looking for guys that have the best understanding of it.
I give up, though. Let's keep sucking forever. I'll be back when there's a basketball game.
Good post, especially the last few points.
I agree, we have to stop looking backward and instead have to look to the up and coming ranks and even coordinator options.
The problem is that our dumbass fan base equates anyone who isn't a "name" coach to Chad Morris, which is an inexplicably stupid comparison since Morris was bad at SMU and was hardly and up and comer. Which is precisely why we'll end up with Petrino, Orgeron, or some over the hill coach instead of looking to the future.
Arkansas football - always reactive, never proactive or strategic.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 04:49 PMWhoever we hire, I want them to at least have the fire BP has. Get on the officials asses when they fuck up. Chew some ass on the sidelines when your player fucks up. Make the team fundamentally sound.
You're going to get more "aw shucks" and some people here are going to fucking love getting back to perennial liberty bowls.
Personally, we are going to suck for the foreseeable future, no matter who we get. The question is, are we going to give the next hire time to right the ship? It is going to take time.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 04:58 PMBobby was 47 then, he's 64 now.
My 6-3 kid that can dunk wasn't born yet
I would love to have "2009-2011 Petrino at Arkansas" back. It can't happen.
College football is a very different game now vs then.
A whole wave of HS HUNH coaches made it big, fizzled, and the world has now moved on.
NIL, transfers, etc.
Instead of looking backward I think you need to look forward.
Remember when Texas Tech hired Joey Maguire and we all thought they were batshit crazy? A few years as an assistant at Baylor and no head coaching or even coordinator experience?
How crazy are they now?
You need someone, like Maguire or Kiffin, that understands how to navigate the current CFB landscape. You won't get those guys, but you start by looking for guys that have the best understanding of it.
I give up, though. Let's keep sucking forever. I'll be back when there's a basketball game.
I'm with you. It's time to do something different.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 05:22 PMPersonally, we are going to suck for the foreseeable future, no matter who we get. The question is, are we going to give the next hire time to right the ship? It is going to take time.
Yes, in fact we'll give the next uninspiring hire WAAAY too long, and probably an extension and a buyout after a single 9 win season.
Unless his name is Petrino. Then he gets just 7 games to turn the shit show that lost to Memphis and got blown out by ND, into something or he's out.
The only way we will be relevant early, is if we have enough money to outbid other good teams. If not, we will remain where we are. Money will get players. But, other, better teams will also be offering. We will need a hell of a lot of cash to field a better team.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 15, 2025, 05:17 PMYou're going to get more "aw shucks" and some people here are going to fucking love getting back to perennial liberty bowls.
What I wouldn't give to be a Liberty Bowl team versus being an 0-fer-conference team (our status before and after being a Liberty Bowl team).
I'm dead serious. The football gods have adjusted my expectations.
We have a losing culture problem in addition to a somewhat deficient talent problem. It's time to wipe the slate clean and start over. Find someone with a track record of building a program that is young and not looking for his last job before retirement.
It is sickening that all of our SEC losses except Auburn (which was a terrible showing) were one score losses, with most being within a FG. That is a losing culture that is not accustomed to winning. ND is really the only game we weren't competitive in.
Culture is hard to fix but in today's era it can be done quickly by flipping a roster. I don't know who the answer is for HC but we need to move on from Bobby and I love him to death.
Wrong fread
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 05:36 PMThe only way we will be relevant early, is if we have enough money to outbid other good teams. If not, we will remain where we are. Money will get players. But, other, better teams will also be offering. We will need a hell of a lot of cash to field a better team.
Yep.
I fully expect us to have a depleted roster which is a good thing. What we have to spend to replace it with will determine success more than anything.
One thing about this new era of football, you don't need to give a coach 5 years and rebuilding can be a one year thing.
You can absolutely go out and build a competitive roster in a year, definitely within 2.
Agree that ultimately success is 100% dependent on somebody opening their wallets. That's how Texas Tech did it, and FFS have any of you actually been to Lubbock?
If our upper level boosters won't spend for football but only basketball, we'll be "mid". Still, it's not like Indiana and Vandy have $50M rosters.
Just hope we don't spend all the money on the coaches and have none left for players.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 06:07 PMOne thing about this new era of football, you don't need to give a coach 5 years and rebuilding can be a one year thing.
You can absolutely go out and build a competitive roster in a year, definitely within 2.
Agree that ultimately success is 100% dependent on somebody opening their wallets. That's how Texas Tech did it, and FFS have any of you actually been to Lubbock?
If our upper level boosters won't spend for football but only basketball, we'll be "mid". Still, it's not like Indiana and Vandy have $50M rosters.
I've been to Lubbock and drove like two hours west of there for work one time. I couldn't believe I was still on the planet, much less Texas.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 15, 2025, 04:32 PMYurachek is entirely culpable because Pittman was not a coach any FBS team other than Arkansas was going to hire. If you hire him as a "placeholder" then you give him a contract with a one season buyout and guarantee him 3 years and nothing else.
The extension and buyout was inexplicable. Was Alabama coming for him, come on?
He did a decent job replenishing the roster and building a team didn't look like it belonged in the FCS, but when he peaked it was time to move on. Two years ago we should've politely eased him into retirement. With no buyout, it wouldn't even be contentious.
Yurachek is on the hook for that whole scenario.
Nobody else in the FBS would hire Bobby based on his track record post-Arkansas, either. Last season at Louisville made our team this year look exemplary in comparison. If you guys get your way I hope we don't give him an equally dumbass contract because his phone won't be ringing, either.
I do kind of wonder if we even had the requirement to look for another job in Pittman's contract or since it was a given he couldn't get a DI head coaching job anyway they didn't bother. I mean, not putting it in in the first place is pretty damn telling you don't need a significant buyout.
Pittman didn't do shit. He was lucky to keep the players that Morris recruited with Barry Odom and Kendell Brilesto help shouldering the load. After his super seniors left (as others have pointed out), he was a deer in head lights.
Pittman couldn't recruit, evaluate talent, coaches, or had a vision for what he wanted.
Besides being told he was a good player's coach from former players, he was hired because all the good coaches are under Sexton and he hates us, so we weren't getting them.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 05:22 PMPersonally, we are going to suck for the foreseeable future, no matter who we get. The question is, are we going to give the next hire time to right the ship? It is going to take time.
The entire roster needs an enema. There is rot in the locker room. I can count on one hand how many players I'd be glad to see back on campus next year.
Our fans are an interesting group.
Nicky Saban could have been appointed interim and he would have gone winless with this team.
And our fans would say he is washed up and shouldn't be hired. BP obviously isn't Saben but he isn't chopped liver either. He was dealt a bad hand and has done all he can with Sam's shit sandwich. I'll always be grateful for his desire to right his wrongs.
With that written, I will be zero percent interested until whoever they hire wins more than 8 games in a season. Until then none of it really matters.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 15, 2025, 05:36 PMThe only way we will be relevant early, is if we have enough money to outbid other good teams. If not, we will remain where we are. Money will get players. But, other, better teams will also be offering. We will need a hell of a lot of cash to field a better team.
This is where I'm at. I don't see a lot of difference in the coaches we can get, BP included.
I want the one that brings the most booster money with him.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 15, 2025, 06:13 PMI've been to Lubbock and drove like two hours west of there for work one time. I couldn't believe I was still on the planet, much less Texas.
I drove through Lubbock one time and it was so hot that the AC in my truck stopped working. I thought I was gonna have a heat stroke.
I think back to Nick Saban's intro press conference at Bama.
The Bama AD introduced Nick as "the best coach in America".
Nick corrected him. "I'm not the best coach in America... but I am the best recruiter."
We are not going to hire Nick but let's go find the best recruiter we can possibly find and throw money at our football problem. I'd rather hire the football version of Guy V Lewis that can recruit the football version of Phi Slamma Jamma over some X and O guru that draws up gee whiz plays and has a Chad Morris like playbook that it takes us years to learn. Where is a young Jimmy Johnson?
It is not just better recruiting that we need to do, it is retention of good players. The current state of college sports is not conducive to allow that unless we open up the coffers.
We only play twelve games and cannot wait till November to put the pieces together like basketball where we might make a run in March. You are either good or not.
Recruiting = NIL. Coaches are secondary to money today.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 15, 2025, 07:48 PMRecruiting = NIL. Coaches are secondary to money today.
Disagree somewhat. Need both but I think the latter can still overcome some NIL shortcomings
Credibility > MONEY > NIL > Recruiting > Retention & Development
We have been so bad at football for so long, I really have no idea why HY is still here. It is a fire all the top brass level of bad.
Any other SEC school would have shitcanned HY by now.
If he somehow stays, there's no way he can make the next hire. Which back to my first point, why is he still here.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 15, 2025, 08:08 PMDisagree somewhat. Need both but I think the latter can still overcome some NIL shortcomings
If we hired Nick Saban, possibly. But we ain't hiring Nick Saban. The person we hire will not drive players to Arkansas on name or coaching success alone.
I was at the ATU - Harding game today. Hire the Harding coach. No one else would be running Wing T, so we would be hard to prepare for and they win big. 47-13 today over a pretty decent 7-3 Tech team.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 15, 2025, 08:25 PMIf we hired Nick Saban, possibly. But we ain't hiring Nick Saban. The person we hire will not drive players to Arkansas on name or coaching success alone.
This exact Florida team would be 6-3 at worst with better coaching and I'll just say it, as BMFP as their head coach.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 15, 2025, 08:42 PMThis exact Florida team would be 6-3 at worst with better coaching and I'll just say it, as BMFP as their head coach.
Where would OU be with BP as their OC?
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2025, 09:01 PMDisagree, I don't think Piggielicious is Jesus. Although Jesus would probably pick a handle like that.
I think Jesus just went by "Jesus" last time around, although I do recall him being called "messiah pig" or something...
He gets to do whatever he wants. His Dad is a really big deal.
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 15, 2025, 08:54 PMI think Jesus just went by "Jesus" last time around, although I do recall him being called "messiah pig" or something...
He gets to do whatever he wants. His Dad is a really big deal.
Wack Messiah. We had to banish him for fear of future Yelena incidents. Surely someone had the court documents where she refers to him as "the Messiah Pig".
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 15, 2025, 08:57 PMWack Messiah. We had to banish him for fear of future Yelena incidents. Surely someone had the court documents where she refers to him as "the Messiah Pig".
Thank you.
It's been too many years since he was here last. I keep hearing he's going to come back, so I anxiously await his return.
Go hire the James Madison coach, Chesney, and give him a TT style NIL budget.
He's built programs everywhere he's been. When Cignetti left for Indiana and took half the JMU players with him, it looked like JMU was going to slide to a mediocre program. Now, they have the inside track to a CFP spot at 9-1. He's 48 years old and will bust his ass here.
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 15, 2025, 09:00 PMThank you.
It's been too many years since he was here last. I keep hearing he's going to come back, so I anxiously await his return.
He hung around for awhile afterwards but people kept poking him.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 15, 2025, 08:54 PMWhere would OU be with BP as their OC?
Idk. According to folks here, OU was not making g a bowl even after racking up 5 wins. Apparently their OC is doing just fine. I assume you're referring to the lack of satenga production under BP?
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 15, 2025, 09:13 PMIdk. According to folks here, OU was not making g a bowl even after racking up 5 wins. Apparently their OC is doing just fine. I assume you're referring to the lack of satenga production under BP?
Nah their offense is still trash. It's as talent deficient relative to the rest of the SEC as our defense. They're bizzaro Arkansas...except their defense doesn't shit the bed at the end of close games.
Put our offense in OU uniforms and they're undefeated right now. Give us the OU defense instead of ours and we're probably 5-5 or 6-4, simply due to the fact that Pittman would still be here and we'd still find a way to piss away games close and late.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 15, 2025, 09:07 PMGo hire the James Madison coach, Chesney, and give him a TT style NIL budget.
He's built programs everywhere he's been. When Cignetti left for Indiana and took half the JMU players with him, it looked like JMU was going to slide to a mediocre program. Now, they have the inside track to a CFP spot at 9-1. He's 48 years old and will bust his ass here.
This, the dude has a track record of winning at multiple programs.
That said, now we will try to hire Norvell.
Gus is still out there looking for the next HC gig
Yeah, Gus is the guy.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 15, 2025, 09:07 PMGo hire the James Madison coach, Chesney, and give him a TT style NIL budget.
He's built programs everywhere he's been. When Cignetti left for Indiana and took half the JMU players with him, it looked like JMU was going to slide to a mediocre program. Now, they have the inside track to a CFP spot at 9-1. He's 48 years old and will bust his ass here.
Yes. If we're going the G5 route then he's the one we should roll the dice on.
While we're at it, go ahead and take their AD too if he hired both Chesney and Cignetti.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 15, 2025, 09:07 PMGo hire the James Madison coach, Chesney, and give him a TT style NIL budget.
He's built programs everywhere he's been. When Cignetti left for Indiana and took half the JMU players with him, it looked like JMU was going to slide to a mediocre program. Now, they have the inside track to a CFP spot at 9-1. He's 48 years old and will bust his ass here.
this is where i'm at as well
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 15, 2025, 09:08 PMHe hung around for awhile afterwards but people kept poking him.
they took him down. but couldn't keep him down for more than 3 days.
If Indiana can do it, so can we. And we should explicitly follow their blueprint. Whatever they did, we should do.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 16, 2025, 08:54 AMYes. If we're going the G5 route then he's the one we should roll the dice on.
While we're at it, go ahead and take their AD too if he hired both Chesney and Cignetti.
Yeah but how's their women's soccer program doing?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 16, 2025, 08:54 AMYes. If we're going the G5 route then he's the one we should roll the dice on.
While we're at it, go ahead and take their AD too if he hired both Chesney and Cignetti.
Not the same AD
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 16, 2025, 10:02 AMYeah but how's their women's soccer program doing?
They have just as many nattys as ours does.
Quote from: TC on Nov 16, 2025, 10:17 AMNot the same AD
Hire their president too?
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 16, 2025, 11:11 AMHire their president too?
Until pretty recently my wife worked at VMI so we were in SoCon country, so I got to watch JMU up close in several sports. I'm not sure what their secret is, but they've been pretty impressive across the board for a while now.
Quote from: TC on Nov 16, 2025, 11:54 AMUntil pretty recently my wife worked at VMI so we were in SoCon country, so I got to watch JMU up close in several sports. I'm not sure what their secret is, but JMU has been pretty impressive across the board for a while now.
Fine, do they have a Board of Trustees that we can also get?
Quote from: TC on Nov 16, 2025, 11:54 AMUntil pretty recently my wife worked at VMI so we were in SoCon country, so I got to watch JMU up close in several sports. I'm not sure what their secret is, but they've been pretty impressive across the board for a while now.
They've had a nice run in hoops the last few years. Remember when they upset Mich St on their court. Believe their softball team was pretty damn good for awhile as well.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 09:48 AMIf Indiana can do it, so can we. And we should explicitly follow their blueprint. Whatever they did, we should do.
We would smoke Indiana by 21...thru 3 quarters and then lose by 14
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 15, 2025, 06:13 PMI've been to Lubbock and drove like two hours west of there for work one time. I couldn't believe I was still on the planet, much less Texas.
I went to the Ark game there and drove from DFW. The immediate campus vicinity was lovely but I felt like I was driving through Mars for a decent portion of that loooooong drive.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 15, 2025, 09:07 PMGo hire the James Madison coach, Chesney, and give him a TT style NIL budget.
He's built programs everywhere he's been. When Cignetti left for Indiana and took half the JMU players with him, it looked like JMU was going to slide to a mediocre program. Now, they have the inside track to a CFP spot at 9-1. He's 48 years old and will bust his ass here.
We could do a LOT worse than this, I'd be happy with it
I'm still a little perplexed Freeze has been such a dud at Auburn after killing it at Liberty, though
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 16, 2025, 01:47 PMI went to the Ark game there and drove from DFW. The immediate campus vicinity was lovely but I felt like I was driving through Mars for a decent portion of that loooooong drive.
The one time I went, we went to Amarillo on I-40 and turned left for 2 hours. 2 hours of nothingness. Then Lubbock appeared. It is surrounded by nothingness. West Texas is vast. I did like the stadium set down in the ground, though.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 16, 2025, 01:54 PMThe one time I went, we went to Amarillo on I-40 and turned left for 2 hours. 2 hours of nothingness. Then Lubbock appeared. It is surrounded by nothingness. West Texas is vast. I did like the stadium set down in the ground, though.
I like the consistent campus architecture (beige brick with red clay tile Mediterranean) and the tiny downtown nearby blended well with it
Lubbock is hideous once outside the handful of blocks we're talking about
Red dirt with nothing on it, windmills, and old oil wells were all we saw for 4-5 hours
I was in Lubbock for a week one day.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 16, 2025, 01:54 PMThe one time I went, we went to Amarillo on I-40 and turned left for 2 hours. 2 hours of nothingness. Then Lubbock appeared. It is surrounded by nothingness. West Texas is vast. I did like the stadium set down in the ground, though.
On the bright side, it was nice to be able to take a nap behind the wheel. Just set the cruise control and the car just needs to go straight the whole way.
Who we want
Lanning
Chesney
Bear Bryant
Petrino from 15 years ago
Who We'll Get
Gus or a descendant
Mike Leach descendant
Petrino of current day
Some spin-off from Chad
Some other guy with connection to the state or U
Some guy that wrote a letter using ChatGPT and really impressed the AD who paid a committee read it to him
Random position coach who's never sniffed a head coaching position above the 4th grade
Good Lord, Scott Bales or Duckman is on X saying it's Gruden. That guy is such an embarrassment.
I'm sure things will turn out great. HY won't let us down.
that idiot has been saying it's gruden since 2012.
Just wait till we announce Hal Mumme.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 16, 2025, 03:41 PMJust wait till we announce Hal Mumme.
I'll take it.
Knowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 03:27 PMGood Lord, Scott Bales or Duckman is on X saying it's Gruden. That guy is such an embarrassment.
I'm sure things will turn out great. HY won't let us down.
If we hire Gruden I'm going to be a OU fan since I was born in Oklahoma. Boomer Sooner!
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Nov 16, 2025, 04:34 PMIf we hire Gruden I'm going to be a OU fan since I was born in Oklahoma. Boomer Sooner!
I'll join you since I lived there for 6 years.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 16, 2025, 02:25 PMI was in Lubbock for a week one day.
Here's my shitty Lubbock story.
Turning out of the airport in my rental car 20 years ago, a literal giant tumbleweed rolled across the road in front of my car. Felt like a real life Roadrunner cartoon.
I attended an Arkansas game there in 1991 when I was 14. I recall late at night riding along with my dad, a radio station somewhere out there in the vast emptiness played a song by "another new Seattle band called Pearl Jam".
First time I heard Evenflow.
I just realized this is the most GenX post I've ever made on any forum.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 04:33 PMKnowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
this might actually work
i grew up in west texass (midland). my pops and i would make the trip every other year to lubbock to watch the hogs play. my first game to see them in person was in 1960. /csb
and as bad as midland was, it wasn't near as bad as lubbock (and the dirt bowl towns you passed thru on the way), a true shithole.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 04:33 PMKnowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
We could do waay worse. I actually like it.
Quote from: TC on Nov 16, 2025, 06:11 PMWe could do waay worse. I actually like it.
yeah, that could work.
When I was younger, we used to go to Lubbock and it was a beating. We lived in Tulsa and when my Dad got off work, we drove to De Queen (where both my parents are from and my grandparents lived). We'd get there late, sleep, then me, my dad and his father would drive to Lubbock. His father had a lead foot and non-passing zones didn't mean anything to him. We'd get there, have to find tickets, usually not together, then leave and drive all night back to DQ. Sometimes we'd stop overnight in Rising Star and stay at a relatives, then get up early and get to DQ. But it was eat lunch in DQ, then back to Tulsa. Since we normally always beat Tech, it was sorta worth it, but i just remember driving super fast and no traffic in the middle of nowhere.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Nov 16, 2025, 07:06 PMWhen I was younger, we used to go to Lubbock and it was a beating. We lived in Tulsa and when my Dad got off work, we drove to De Queen (where both my parents are from and my grandparents lived). We'd get there late, sleep, then me, my dad and his father would drive to Lubbock. His father had a lead foot and non-passing zones didn't mean anything to him. We'd get there, have to find tickets, usually not together, then leave and drive all night back to DQ. Sometimes we'd stop overnight in Rising Star and stay at a relatives, then get up early and get to DQ. But it was eat lunch in DQ, then back to Tulsa. Since we normally always beat Tech, it was sorta worth it, but i just remember driving super fast and no traffic in the middle of nowhere.
Sounds like one of my family vacations when I was a kid. We only went to locations where we had relatives. I can't remember ever staying at a hotel.
My kids know nothing about those type of vacations.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 04:33 PMKnowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
Would not hate
We used to have a great poster here (probably the old woopussy) named "West Texas Hog".
I still stay in touch with him during hunting season.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 04:33 PMKnowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
No thanks but you're probably right.
Purdue has made little to no progress and Bobby's refusal to let anyone other than Green play QB is as vexing as the uniform choices of late.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 16, 2025, 04:33 PMKnowing how pathetic HY is and how he always takes the easy way out I predict that if it isn't BP it's Barry Odom with Petrino as his OC.
I wouldn't mind that terribly. Though I think it's a bit of a waste of money, given the contract that would be needed. Probably cheaper to just run with Petrino. But if all of that is equal, then that may be an advantageous solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVbC-NoiyJE
Nothing earth shattering here. We whiffed on Franklin and should try to lock up Golesh now because we're too far down the pecking order to wait for the dominoes to fall. He also said he doesn't think we have a leading candidate right now.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 16, 2025, 04:39 PMI'll join you since I lived there for 6 years.
I'll adopt Ole Miss since the wife went there and it would be maximum aggravation for the remaining Arkansas fans.
How the in the blue fuck does HY still have a job? And it seems like he is taking the lead on the hire. WTF? I'm not going to do the research to verify this myself, but apparently Arkansas is the ONLY power conference team in the country that does not have a functioning NIL collective or other avenue for an average fan to make a donation to NIL.
I am so fucking sick of this Mickey Mouse bullshit.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 17, 2025, 09:17 AMHow the in the blue fuck does HY still have a job? And it seems like he is taking the lead on the hire. WTF? I'm not going to do the research to verify this myself, but apparently Arkansas is the ONLY power conference team in the country that does not have a functioning NIL collective or other avenue for an average fan to make a donation to NIL.
I am so fucking sick of this Mickey Mouse bullshit.
Because we're a basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, and track school. "Overall athletic department" he rates well.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln......
This was precisely my concern if we fired Sam. We have shown no commitment to compete as a D1 program since NIL has taken over. We are an unattractive program from top to bottom. No recent history of winning. No in state talent. Low NIL compared to our opponents. Shitty roster. Ever been to a game, shitty atmosphere. Oh, but we have nice facilities.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 17, 2025, 09:25 AMBecause we're a basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, and track school. "Overall athletic department" he rates well.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln......
Frank Broyles established the ceiling for the football program and we're determined not to challenge it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 09:28 AMThis was precisely my concern if we fired Sam. We have shown no commitment to compete as a D1 program since NIL has taken over. We are an unattractive program from top to bottom. No recent history of winning. No in state talent. Low NIL compared to our opponents. Shitty roster. Ever been to a game, shitty atmosphere. Oh, but we have nice facilities.
It's a valid concern for sure, and always was. But we had to try something different. For Pittman to win here it was going to take more than a competitive SEC roster. We would have had to probably double everyone else in spending, because the only way he was going to win enough games to overcome his close/late issues was to have a roster so much better than the opponents that he never played close games.
We've never had the best roster in our conference...even in most SWC years we were less talented than Texas, A&M, sometimes even Baylor, Houston and SMU. Just like from before most of us were born, we have to win on scheme and development with just enough talent to allow those things to close the gap in athletic ability somewhat.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 17, 2025, 09:17 AMHow the in the blue fuck does HY still have a job? And it seems like he is taking the lead on the hire. WTF? I'm not going to do the research to verify this myself, but apparently Arkansas is the ONLY power conference team in the country that does not have a functioning NIL collective or other avenue for an average fan to make a donation to NIL.
I am so fucking sick of this Mickey Mouse bullshit.
Completely aligned. He should have been gone when he allowed Sexton to skin us on the Pittman extension.
Does the GM have any role in the HC search, or is he just there to negotiate NIL agreements with players and their "agents"? I know at Stanford Andrew Luck is involved/the lead on the HC search, and fired the last guy.
https://x.com/treybiddy/status/1990106376178106599?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Why even post this shit. Just say we have nobody and we are fucked
I'm still in the hope we have nobody and go with BP by default camp.
so james franklin said no and that means he was the only one that we are looking at? some of you need to get a grip.
hell, lots of posters said they didn't want him anyway.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 17, 2025, 10:13 AMI'm still in the hope we have nobody and go with BP by default camp.
I'm in this camp too. What will happen is HY will need to make it look like he did some super secret search and found the diamond in the rough and hire some no name slap dick that we have never heard of. This, of course, comes after every competent candidate (except BP) turns us down/gets a raise.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 17, 2025, 10:00 AMhttps://x.com/treybiddy/status/1990106376178106599?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Why even post this shit. Just say we have nobody and we are fucked
So, Ed turned us down.
This is going to make the last hiring process look like a success.
"if everybody has turned us down" then there's no reason not to name petrino just before the texass game. makes no sense otherwise. why wait when he needs to start salvaging a recruiting class and get the portal tampering going.
if that doesn't happen then we'll know in a couple of weeks who the new coach is.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 17, 2025, 10:34 AMSo, Ed turned us down.
This is going to make the last hiring process look like a success.
Ed O isn't turning us down for a head coaching position.
The fact HY takes on additional tasks like head of the playoff committee tells you he's got this coaching search under control.
Seriously, Petrino is the best choice of anyone that will take this shitshow job.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 17, 2025, 10:41 AMSeriously, Petrino is the best choice of anyone that will take this shitshow job.
It's all about the money. What if a couple of the deep pocket guys think BP is washed up and won't pony up if that's our guy? Do you want BP with far less NIL that option B with more NIL?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 17, 2025, 09:35 AMIt's a valid concern for sure, and always was. But we had to try something different. For Pittman to win here it was going to take more than a competitive SEC roster. We would have had to probably double everyone else in spending, because the only way he was going to win enough games to overcome his close/late issues was to have a roster so much better than the opponents that he never played close games.
We've never had the best roster in our conference...even in most SWC years we were less talented than Texas, A&M, sometimes even Baylor, Houston and SMU. Just like from before most of us were born, we have to win on scheme and development with just enough talent to allow those things to close the gap in athletic ability somewhat.
And I'm not saying Sam should've stayed. It's that we have done nothing to sell the football program to the next coach.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 17, 2025, 10:39 AMThe fact HY takes on additional tasks like head of the playoff committee tells you he's got this coaching search under control.
and if he doesn't then he should be fired
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 10:49 AMAnd I'm not saying Sam should've stayed. It's that we have done nothing to sell the football program to the next coach.
We. Are. Arkansas.
I'm surprised we have been able to maintain competency in basketball and baseball.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 17, 2025, 10:35 AMEd O isn't turning us down for a head coaching position.
He's looking for a money grab. He's likely blown (pun intended) through his buyout money. You're gonna get OM Coach O and not the one that caught lightning in a bottle at LSU.
Now if he wants to coach Dline, count me in.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 17, 2025, 10:47 AMIt's all about the money. What if a couple of the deep pocket guys think BP is washed up and won't pony up if that's our guy? Do you want BP with far less NIL that option B with more NIL?
Probably not (unfortunately), but this is my point about making the job attractive. We seem to have boosters in a pissing contest for who they will/will not support. Either you support the program or you don't. It's an awful look for coaches that might be interested in your job.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 10:53 AMHe's looking for a money grab. He's likely blown (pun intended) through his buyout money. You're gonna get OM Coach O and not the one that caught lightning in a bottle at LSU.
Now if he wants to coach Dline, count me in.
I'd love to have O on staff...just not anywhere near the HC role. Maybe let him be the interim when the next guy flames out. Supposedly Bobby contacted him about being DL coach when he took over.
Honestly I think Wilson has done a decent job as DC/DL trying to make chicken salad out of the chicken shit roster he was given. They're still terrible, but look far less lost and out of position than they did under Williams.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 17, 2025, 10:34 AM"if everybody has turned us down" then there's no reason not to name petrino just before the texass game. makes no sense otherwise. why wait when he needs to start salvaging a recruiting class and get the portal tampering going.
if that doesn't happen then we'll know in a couple of weeks who the new coach is.
You're right. It's not like Arkansas has a history of going "all in" on coaching candidates and then having to hire a guy with a 14-22 record at SMU or a career line coach when said "all in" candidate turns us down.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 17, 2025, 10:13 AMI'm still in the hope we have nobody and go with BP by default camp.
If I'm Bobby my price has gone up.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 17, 2025, 11:08 AMI'd love to have O on staff...just not anywhere near the HC role. Maybe let him be the interim when the next guy flames out. Supposedly Bobby contacted him about being DL coach when he took over.
Honestly I think Wilson has done a decent job as DC/DL trying to make chicken salad out of the chicken shit roster he was given. They're still terrible, but look far less lost and out of position than they did under Williams.
Agree, there has been improvement. Haven't seen as much loafing either.
Opposite of our basketball and baseball teams, or football team has been a losing proposition for years now. 6 wins has seemed to be our only goal. I am not sure anyone with any money would want to invest in that. If someone doesn't come forward with some cash, we will end up with the same type of shitty players...ones that weren't offered anywhere else and see they can make a few bucks here.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 11:20 AMAgree, there has been improvement. Haven't seen as much loafing either.
Minus the fourth quarter. Everyone loafed on LSU's last possession, but that's more of a reflection on Sam and Sowder's lack of an actual strength/conditioning program. Our "woe is us" defense actually hasn't been
entirely terrible since we got rid of T-Will.
We still don't have anything to show the next head coach. Big NIL pockets - where are they? Returning talent on the roster? At least LSU had the talent to be considered a CFP contender before the season started. We, on the other hand, fired a head coach five games into the year because we realized our roster was too shitty to have a chance. A clean slate is all we have to offer.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 17, 2025, 10:13 AMI'm still in the hope we have nobody and go with BP by default camp.
With the shape the program is in, we've never had a hope in hell of finding someone better than him. The curse will never let anything good happen, so he's going to get hired as OC at another school and KJ Jackson will win the Heisman there.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 10:59 AMProbably not (unfortunately), but this is my point about making the job attractive. We seem to have boosters in a pissing contest for who they will/will not support. Either you support the program or you don't. It's an awful look for coaches that might be interested in your job.
I was thinking about something along those lines this weekend. I had a thought that we are going to hire Gus. I would be pissed and angry and say horrible words. Then I would pull for him to win every game.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 17, 2025, 12:05 PMI was thinking about something along those lines this weekend. I had a thought that we are going to hire Gus. I would be pissed and angry and say horrible words. Then I would pull for him to win every game.
Not directed at you but fuck it all if that happens. He's been washed up for years. It means we struck out with the first 25 options just like last time around.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 17, 2025, 11:19 AMIf I'm Bobby my price has gone up.
He should just announce that he's pulling his hat out. Say he's looking for a high end OC gig and his latest resume shows a basket case QB that is leading the world in yards per game.
I will pull for whoever we pick. Hated Bert but wanted him to win every game. Wanted Norvell over Morris, but supported that dip shit until I couldn't.
I'll say this, if it is BP the season has worked out in a way so as to completely suck the excitement out of it. It's just pure Arkansas. It will be obvious that no one wanted our job and we were stuck with Bobby.
In hindsight it would have been better to immediately make BP coach and give him a two or three year deal or announce that he wasn't a candidate at all for the job no matter what.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 17, 2025, 12:32 PMI will pull for whoever we pick. Hated Bert but wanted him to win every game. Wanted Norvell over Morris, but supported that dip shit until I couldn't.
That first year with Bert. Rutgers in New Jersey. I knew that he just didn't know how or didn't care. With Morris it was game one that he didn't know how.
I haven't ever had a senses that BP doesn't know how, or that he's too old and the game has passed him. Certainly never thought he doesn't care.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 17, 2025, 11:19 AMIf I'm Bobby my price has gone up.
We'd be dumb enough to do it when we're the only bidder.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 17, 2025, 01:13 PMWe'd be dumb enough to do it when we're the only bidder.
I know that. You know that. Bobby knows that.
We all know it could happen anyway.
No matter who we end up with, I slovenly vow not to lower my contribution level to this fine program.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 17, 2025, 01:11 PMThat first year with Bert. Rutgers in New Jersey. I knew that he just didn't know how or didn't care. With Morris it was game one that he didn't know how.
I haven't ever had a senses that BP doesn't know how, or that he's too old and the game has passed him. Certainly never thought he doesn't care.
With Morris it was the introduction news conference. That stupid stunt was too much for me. They should have rescinded the offer when they heard his dumbass stunt idea.
Quote from: dhog on Nov 17, 2025, 01:48 PMWith Morris it was the introduction news conference. That stupid stunt was too much for me. They should have rescinded the offer when they heard his dumbass stunt idea.
That fucking gif of him doing that bizarre dance. What in the actual fuck
Quote from: dhog on Nov 17, 2025, 01:48 PMWith Morris it was the introduction news conference. That stupid stunt was too much for me. They should have rescinded the offer when they heard his dumbass stunt idea.
I went to the Colorado State game and it was the break between the 3rd and 4th quarters and I spent the break thinking of what running play to call to pick up the easy first down.
He came out of that TO and...punted. Right then I knew.
After Morris (Swinney), Pittman (Smart), not to mention Heath (Izzo), Pelphrey (Donovan), and Anderson (Nolan), I NEVER EVER EVER EVER AGAIN want to hire an assistant coach because he is a "disciple" of some great head coach. There is no correlation whatsoever.
That analysis even kind of fits Bielema/Alvarez.
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1990509482921898233?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1990509482921898233?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 17, 2025, 01:11 PMI haven't ever had a senses that BP doesn't know how, or that he's too old and the game has passed him. Certainly never thought he doesn't care.
Wasn't it Bobby's first game where we had a kick off return for a touchdown and everyone was on the sideline going nuts and he was calm and focused?
Everyone commented that it was night and day from Dale and his antics.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 17, 2025, 10:50 AMWe. Are. Arkansas.
I'm surprised we have been able to maintain competency in basketball and baseball.
It's not because of Yurachek. John Tyson arranged Calapari to be here. Yurachek played no role in that hiring. Van Horn was already here. Yurachek played no role in that hiring.
Who's gonna step up and do Yurachek's job for him this time?
Quote from: HTL on Nov 17, 2025, 01:56 PMThat fucking gif of him doing that bizarre dance. What in the actual fuck
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That's the "I'm a dumbass that just lucked in to generational wealth dance."
Pay me a crazy coaching salary, I'll do the same thing.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 17, 2025, 02:44 PMThat's the "I'm a dumbass that just lucked in to generational wealth dance."
Pay me a crazy coaching salary, I'll do the same thing.
And the wife never stepped foot in the state.
Franklin to VT..officially. lol
Good for us and them.
How fucking mad are Ole Miss fans right now? In the middle of a playoff hunt and family is visiting Gainesville and Baton Rouge on back to back days lol.
it's going to be hilarious if that turns out to be an epic troll by lane.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 17, 2025, 03:52 PMit's going to be hilarious if that turns out to be an epic troll by lane.
May be but that's a terrible look.
Funny if LSU is going after Kiffin, while we fiddle, fart, and fuck around and end up with somebody no one has heard of.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 17, 2025, 04:06 PMFunny if LSU is going after Kiffin, while we fiddle, fart, and fuck around and end up with somebody no one has heard of.
Wait until Ole Miss gets their guy before we do
Quote from: HTL on Nov 17, 2025, 04:00 PMMay be but that's a terrible look.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 17, 2025, 04:06 PMFunny if LSU is going after Kiffin, while we fiddle, fart, and fuck around and end up with somebody no one has heard of.
there was a 0.0 chance we were hiring kiffin. what does lsu have to do with our search?
going after and actually hiring are completely different things. and i didn't see we hired a nobody.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 17, 2025, 04:13 PMthere was a 0.0 chance we were hiring kiffin. what does lsu have to do with our search?
going after and actually hiring are completely different things. and i didn't see we hired a nobody.
Thanks for making my point. We haven't hired anyone yet. We are still fucking around trying to decide what to do while other schools are making decisions. If the Kiffin thing is true, at least LSU is trying to get someone. And VT got Franklin. Others aren't waiting around either.
what school has announced a hire other than pedo st?
and if it's a sitting coach that's getting our job, then there's no freaking way it's going to made public with two weeks left on the season.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 17, 2025, 04:29 PMwhat school has announced a hire other than pedo st?
and if it's a sitting coach that's getting our job, then there's no freaking way it's going to made public with two weeks left on the season.
I don't know. Our season is over. Has Pedo St. hired someone?
HY is too busy making sure enough SEC teams make the playoffs so that he doesn't piss offthe powers that be in Birmingham to worry about hiring our HC.
https://x.com/raz0rbacks/status/1990551585488056413?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/raz0rbacks/status/1990551585488056413?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Lol
Fuck no
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 28, 2025, 07:58 PMwatch it be someone like gundy or jimbo. no joke.
:suicide:
Jimbo as coach, GPMFP as OC, and Durkin to DC....
Quote from: animal on Nov 17, 2025, 07:13 PMJimbo as coach, GPMFP as OC, and Durkin to DC....
Sounds familiar...
Thankfully the replies say this isn't in Fayetteville
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 17, 2025, 10:39 AMThe fact HY takes on additional tasks like head of the playoff committee tells you he's got this coaching search under control.
We've seen this movie before.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 17, 2025, 04:00 PMMay be but that's a terrible look.
Why? Lane can say well, I looked at all those places that say they are so much better, and here I am. Still in Oxford.
updated espn defensive stop rate:
jmu #9, giving up points on 25.2% of drives, 1.35 points per drive.
arkansas #133, giving up points on 54.6% of drives, 3.1 points per drive.
other surprises in the top 10: #3 san diego state, #4 toledo
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 10:37 AMarkansas #133, giving up points on 54.6% of drives, 3.1 points per drive.
Wow, what must that have been before the LSU game.
Oooooohhhh boy... ???
Pat Fitzgerald click bait post on X.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 17, 2025, 04:11 PMWait until Ole Miss gets their guy before we do
Wait until we decide we're hiring _______ and then ________ suddenly shows up at the Mississippi press conference as head coach.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Nov 18, 2025, 01:11 PMOooooohhhh boy... ???
Pat Fitzgerald click bait post on X.
That just seems like an awful fit.
I just saw Eric Morris. UNT is good this year but that looks like it could blow up as bad as the first Morris. He had four seasons at Incarnate Word where he went 6-5,5-7,3-3, and 10-3. In his three seasons at UNT he has gone 5-7,6-7, and 9-1 so far this year. He was a GA at Houston, Wide Receivers coach at Washington State, and OC at Texas Tech for three years. He has no SEC experience in any capacity and his head coaching record is pretty unexceptional except for two nice seasons.
I'm starting to come around on the James Madison guy. If we're swinging for the fences with an up and comer, I like his resume better than the others.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Nov 18, 2025, 02:17 PMI'm starting to come around on the James Madison guy. If we're swinging for the fences with an up and comer, I like his resume better than the others.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2025, 01:39 PMI just saw Eric Morris. UNT is good this year but that looks like it could blow up as bad as the first Morris. He had four seasons at Incarnate Word where he went 6-5,5-7,3-3, and 10-3. In his three seasons at UNT he has gone 5-7,6-7, and 9-1 so far this year. He was a GA at Houston, Wide Receivers coach at Washington State, and OC at Texas Tech for three years. He has no SEC experience in any capacity and his head coaching record is pretty unexceptional except for two nice seasons.
I'd bet we end up with Morris.
If there isn't a candidate that clearly stands out, I hope we choose the guy who has the highest ceiling. If it's Fitzgerald, Petrino, pool of G5 coaches, and possibly Gruden, who has the highest ceiling?
I tend to lean Petrino, then Gruden. Although Gruden probably is the biggest risk. It's hard to see a ceiling for a G5 coach that has never coached at this level. It's a crapshoot with those guys.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 18, 2025, 02:24 PMI'd bet we end up with Morris.
It's the Arkansas way.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Nov 18, 2025, 02:17 PMI'm starting to come around on the James Madison guy. If we're swinging for the fences with an up and comer, I like his resume better than the others.
CBS says he's probably going to UCLA.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 18, 2025, 02:36 PMCBS says he's probably going to UCLA.
CSB says his presidency faced a significant setback during the War of 1812 when British forces invaded Washington, D.C., and burned down important government buildings, including the White House and the Capitol.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Nov 18, 2025, 02:17 PMI'm starting to come around on the James Madison guy. If we're swinging for the fences with an up and comer, I like his resume better than the others.
He will probably end up at Penn State.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 18, 2025, 02:45 PMCSB says his presidency faced a significant setback during the War of 1812 when British forces invaded Washington, D.C., and burned down important government buildings, including the White House and the Capitol.
Is his wife's name Dolly too?
Quote from: GeoHogsGeo on Nov 18, 2025, 02:50 PMHe will probably end up at Penn State.
I seriously doubt we reached out to any candidates and tried to present ourselves as a serious program when we were the only opening.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 18, 2025, 02:36 PMCBS says he's probably going to UCLA.
I could see Brian Kelley going there. I really insight other than he seems like more their type than LSU ever was. Also see the JMU guy going to pedo. Probably going to be wrong on both accounts. Hope we hire the jmu guy.
If we end up with a coach named Morris, I am going to puke. I still have PTSD from the last one. If we end up with him, we should make him change his last name.
As Michael Bolton said in Office Space: "Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks."
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Nov 18, 2025, 04:04 PMAs Michael Bolton said in Office Space: "Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks."
As Hannibal Lecter said in Silence of the Lambs, "Yeaaaahh, that was a good one."
Since we like to hire old never been head coach guys, let me give you a name. Frank Cignetti, Jr. He is OC for his brother and has been a college OC and a QB coach in the NFL. He has coached some good QBs and some pretty danged good offenses. Maybe some of his brother's magic will rub off.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 18, 2025, 04:22 PMAs Hannibal Lecter said in Silence of the Lambs, "Yeaaaahh, that was a good one."
I thought it was "I ate his liver with a nice chianti and farva beans."
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2025, 04:32 PMSince we like to hire old never been head coach guys, let me give you a name. Frank Cignetti, Jr. He is OC for his brother and has been a college OC and a QB coach in the NFL. He has coached some good QBs and some pretty danged good offenses. Maybe some of his brother's magic will rub off.
Not a terrible idea
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 04:48 PMI thought it was "I ate his liver with a nice chianti and farva beans."
This was while he was in the cage after Clareese said he would go to Anthrax Island and he fell for it.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 04:50 PMNot a terrible idea
Oh but it is a remarkably terrible idea. Based on track record.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 17, 2025, 02:19 PMAfter Morris (Swinney), Pittman (Smart), not to mention Heath (Izzo), Pelphrey (Donovan), and Anderson (Nolan), I NEVER EVER EVER EVER AGAIN want to hire an assistant coach because he is a "disciple" of some great head coach. There is no correlation whatsoever.
That analysis even kind of fits Bielema/Alvarez.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 18, 2025, 05:11 PMOh but it is a remarkably terrible idea. Based on track record.
But that process also has produced damn near every good coach that has existed. Every head coach was a coordinator or lesser person until someone took a chance on them.
Taking a chance isn't always bad if it's calculated and smart people are involved.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 05:20 PMBut that process also has produced damn near every good coach that has existed. Every head coach was a coordinator or lesser person until someone took a chance on them.
Taking a chance isn't always bad if it's calculated and smart people are involved.
"Calculted and smart people involved". And therein lies the problem.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 18, 2025, 05:23 PM"Calculted and smart people involved". And therein lies the problem.
Fuck it, I'll do it
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 05:47 PMFuck it, I'll do it
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I think it will be Dabo.
Quote from: Gambler on Nov 18, 2025, 06:41 PMI think it will be Dabo.
Same. Has a cal and bp feel to it. Someone put his name out there, and not just some titman-show's-his-wife's-ducks type of dude. Swinney is looking for a way out of Clemson. Yeah it's an ACC school, but one of the very few where football is king with fan and booster demands and expectations that are practically identical to SEC powers.
HY, or whoever is in charge, has kept it quiet IMHO. The talk of us 'missing on Franklin' is a prognosticator's backpedal into covering for the fact that he was dead wrong. Ain't none of them motherfuckers who push that line who knows shit.
How will that bode for his success at Arkansas? IDK. I thought he was one of the great coaches struggling with NIL, but the Athletics Department here needs to get on the GM train or GTFO.
Quote from: Gambler on Nov 18, 2025, 06:41 PMI think it will be Dabo.
Dabo flanked by two Walton grandsons would be pretty epic.
Wheeled into the stadium for the intro press conference on a JB Hunt flat bed driven by Johnelle.
https://x.com/jakotasain/status/1990873714850766935?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
What is this retarded shit
It would make sense as to why hunter is still here with :
1)the football program being in the worst state since Chad
2)the 2nd contract. Didn't or couldn't fire Sam after Enos or last year
3) Badly bungling NIL since say one. As of today, we might be the only SEC program that doesn't have a fan NIL collective
Or the board is just clueless. Probably the latter
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 04:50 PMNot a terrible idea
I was wrong. He isn't the OC for his brother. He is OC at Indiana University OF PENNSYLVANIA. lol I should read better. Everything else I wrote appears to be true.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2025, 07:21 PMI was wrong. He isn't the OC for his brother. He is OC at Indiana University OF PENNSYLVANIA. lol I should read better. Everything else I wrote appears to be true.
Oh, well that changes things. Appreciate the honesty. That means something.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 07:22 PMOh, well that changes things. Appreciate the honesty. That means something.
That is the school where there dad was HC forever and Curt was HC there too. Check out the record of the current head coach there. It's 61-19 in seven seasons. He is 62 though.
Quote from: Gambler on Nov 18, 2025, 06:41 PMI think it will be Dabo.
Listening to the guy i heard a few days ago, that's what I think too. He didn't say anything that would id the man as dabo, but it's was the feeling I got afterward.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 18, 2025, 07:30 PMListening to the guy i heard a few days ago, that's what I think too. He didn't say anything that would id the man as dabo, but it's was the feeling I got afterward.
QRD. I looked through your posts on the thread, but didn't see it. Maybe I'm ruhtard.
Quote from: Gambler on Nov 18, 2025, 06:41 PMI think it will be Dabo.
Along the same lines but I keep thinking it's going to be Lincoln Riley.
Wonder if there's any lurkers from other schools fans screenshotting our posts suggesting Dabo or Lincoln Riley.
message board genius hasn't shown up yet.
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Ok guys, we must protect the village - please put "keep this here" after every post of a sensitive nature. Have a grude evening.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 18, 2025, 08:12 PMWonder if there's any lurkers from other schools fans screenshotting our posts suggesting Dabo or Lincoln Riley.
I'm fully prepared to be way underwhelmed with our actual hire. I just hope it's not a hand written letter, a morris, or a career position coach. The list could probably go on and on there.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 18, 2025, 08:38 PMOk guys, we must protect the village - please put "keep this here" after every post of a sensitive nature. Have a grude evening.
Right. Can't have the media thinking that they can just come in here and copy our scoops.
That retarded duckman dude is pretty insufferable. His feed is awful
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1990973313582325958?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 18, 2025, 08:27 PMmessage board genius hasn't shown up yet.
Where can I "like" this post?
Message Board Genius makes any board they tweet about look retarded. Maybe they'll discover Nobville before stumbling upon the "truffle in the hogshit" that is Teh Woopig.
Now the rest of the country gets to experience the greatness of HY.
https://x.com/billyliucci/status/1991126740089852103?s=46
Is it me or is it whenever the Razorbacks have like some real legitimate bitches to the SEC about how games officiated there's some kind of consolation prize like say CFP commissioner. It's like here retard you get to wear the hat...but you will do as you're told.
HY is a sellout but I think we already knew that.
https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1991001738094993627?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1991001738094993627?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
It would be pretty funny for us to fire him after his recent promotion.
What happens when he ends up at SEC HQ and takes every opportunity to take a dump on the Hogs. He looks like a guy that would like his coasting gig before retiring.
He was a local joke.
Now he's a national one.
We're moving on up!
Can you imagine a coach with options watching that abortion of a performance last night and thinking "That's the guy I want to work for over the next five to ten years!"?
Hell Petrino might even say fuck this shit and retire early.
ND lost to #13 Miami and #3 Aggie. Miami lost to Louisville and SMU.
HY might be an idiot but this is reaching.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 18, 2025, 06:59 PMhttps://x.com/jakotasain/status/1990873714850766935?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
What is this retarded shit
You defined what it was and then asked what it was. WTF boo.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 18, 2025, 11:27 PMMessage Board Genius makes any board they tweet about look retarded. Maybe they'll discover Nobville before stumbling upon the "truffle in the hogshit" that is Teh Woopig.
I feel sure they already know about Nobville
Duckman keeps posting on Twitter as if he has all the knowledge of what's going on over anyone else. Isn't this guy just a shitty used car sales guy from HS who is a tard from Hogville?
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 19, 2025, 11:34 AMDuckman keeps posting on Twitter as if he has all the knowledge of what's going on over anyone else. Isn't this guy just a shitty used car sales guy from HS who is a tard from Hogville?
He's a camper salesman! Get it right!
Duckman's tits are saying it's Gruden.
I don't know who this Keith Grayson dude is, but I think he's indicating it's Kenny Dillingham.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 19, 2025, 01:48 PMHe's a camper salesman! Get it right!
Duckman's tits are saying it's Gruden.
I don't know who this Keith Grayson dude is, but I think he's indicating it's Kenny Dillingham.
I don't know if Grayson knows what he's talking about or not, but he does live in the Phoenix area and seems to have money (or at least good income).
Not sure if that's worthy of taking him seriously, but I'd trust him over duckman all day long.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 19, 2025, 02:07 PMI don't know if Grayson knows what he's talking about or not, but he does live in the Phoenix area and seems to have money (or at least good income).
Not sure if that's worthy of taking him seriously, but I'd trust him over duckman all day long.
Arizona! Okay, that's why I couldn't find anything about him in Arkansas.
He's apparently a real estate agent in Phoenix.
The Grayson Team (https://www.graysonaz.com/our-team)
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 19, 2025, 10:14 AMND lost to #13 Miami and #3 Aggie. Miami lost to Louisville and SMU.
HY might be an idiot but this is reaching.
Agreed. There is logic in that approach even if the delivery was not the best.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 19, 2025, 04:25 PMAgreed. There is logic in that approach even if the delivery was not the best.
Yeah I read the transcript and the logic that Notre Dame's two losses were to good teams, is logical. I haven't seen the video to determine if he came across as an um uh well doofus in the delivery, but the logic is there.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 19, 2025, 04:28 PMYeah I read the transcript and the logic that Notre Dame's two losses were to good teams, is logical. I haven't seen the video to determine if he came across as an um uh well doofus in the delivery, but the logic is there.
He just kind of pussyfooted it. Instead of coming out and saying Miami has played its way out of the conversation, he jumbled it in a really weird way.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 19, 2025, 01:48 PMHe's a camper salesman! Get it right!
Duckman's tits are saying it's Gruden.
I don't know who this Keith Grayson dude is, but I think he's indicating it's Kenny Dillingham.
Someone said it was the coach from ASU and immediately thought Dillingham and not Butch Jones :stache:
Quote from: RPL on Nov 19, 2025, 02:11 PMArizona! Okay, that's why I couldn't find anything about him in Arkansas.
He's apparently a real estate agent in Phoenix.
The Grayson Team (https://www.graysonaz.com/our-team)
Used to work at Hoffbrau back in the day.
Quote from: gorillawarfare on Nov 20, 2025, 05:56 AMUsed to work at Hoffbrau back in the day.
Hoffbrau! There's a place I haven't thought about in a jillion years.
Word on Discord is that Doug McMillon is starting an NIL initiative with some other Walmart bigwigs and/or Waltons.
It seems like every coach on earth has been mentioned so I probably missed it, but has Lance Leipold been connected to our job at all? Seems like his name was mentioned for every major opening the last couple of years. Did the shine wear off or he got a massive buyout?
Jedd Fisch is another. I believe he's a Gator alum but they'll aim higher. I wonder if he's a possibility.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 20, 2025, 09:26 AMIt seems like every coach on earth has been mentioned so I probably missed it, but has Lance Leipold been connected to our job at all? Seems like his name was mentioned for every major opening the last couple of years. Did the shine wear off or he got a massive buyout?
Jedd Fisch is another. I believe he's a Gator alum but they'll aim higher. I wonder if he's a possibility.
Shine has worn off a bit on Leipold. About to miss bowl eligibility for second straight year with no OU or texass on schedule.
Fisch has a better job than ours right now. Don't see why he'd leave UW for Arkansas. Plus I suspect he's the backup plan for Florida if/when Kiffin tells them no.
At what point do they announce this fucking coach for next year. You've had two months
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 20, 2025, 09:43 AMShine has worn off a bit on Leipold. About to miss bowl eligibility for second straight year with no OU or texass on schedule.
Fisch has a better job than ours right now. Don't see why he'd leave UW for Arkansas. Plus I suspect he's the backup plan for Florida if/when Kiffin tells them no.
Makes sense, thanks. I agree that Washington is the better job but thought he might want to get back to the south and avoid traveling 3 time zones to play Rutgers.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 09:44 AMAt what point do they announce this fucking coach for next year. You've had two months
they can't announce someone who is still coaching. you got at least 2 more weeks.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 09:44 AMAt what point do they announce this fucking coach for next year. You've had two months
If they don't make an announcement, or at least privately get something signed, by the Mizzou game we're in deep shit.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 20, 2025, 09:47 AMthey can't announce someone who is still coaching. you got at least 2 more weeks.
plus 3 or 4 coaches need to use us to get a raise before we can announce
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 20, 2025, 09:48 AMIf they don't make an announcement, or at least privately get something signed, by the Mizzou game we're in deep shit.
My guess is it will leak out or perhaps be announced shortly before the Mizzou game.
A lot of smoke out there that it's a done deal and we'll know by Sunday, if not sooner.
Seems like everything typically leaks by the time it goes to the BOT for approval.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 20, 2025, 09:47 AMthey can't announce someone who is still coaching. you got at least 2 more weeks.
Also, they had to let the season play out to make the decision of BMFP or no BMFP.
I think the answer to that is obvious at this point.
I guess this will be our Black Friday gift. New coach
there could be a deal done sometime next week, but i think it will be after the missouri game before its announced.
the stuff about someone being named right after the texass game was started by a guy on nobville who along with duckman, says it's been gruden all along.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 20, 2025, 09:49 AMplus 3 or 4 coaches need to use us to get a raise before we can announce
LSU, Florida, and Auburn gotta get their choices. If any of them hire Kiffin or Drinkshitz then anyone we're talking to just might step back and let Jimmy Sexton buttsecks us one more time.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 20, 2025, 10:26 AMthere could be a deal done sometime next week, but i think it will be after the missouri game before its announced.
the stuff about someone being named right after the texass game was started by a guy on nobville who along with duckman, says it's been gruden all along.
Please god no.
A Gruden hire is Deion or Belichik redux.
Win the press conference, go 4-8 next year, downhill after that.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 20, 2025, 08:55 AMWord on Discord is that Doug McMillon is starting an NIL initiative with some other Walmart bigwigs and/or Waltons.
Only Walton would be Rob.
i seriously doubt it's going to be gruden. just pointing out that's where the talk about knowing this weekend came from. more wishful thinking.
Nobody knows shit. End of story.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 20, 2025, 11:15 AMNobody knows shit. End of story.
apparently Newsweek says it's gruden 🙄
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1991487813389545609?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Sonny Dykes says hi.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 11:26 AMapparently Newsweek says it's gruden 🙄
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1991487813389545609?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
A Spider Y Banana in your tail pipe coming to an offense near us
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 11:26 AMapparently Newsweek says it's gruden 🙄
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1991487813389545609?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Everyone is too stupid to understand that these articles are based off the public betting market.
Gruden would be a disaster.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 11:26 AMapparently Newsweek says it's gruden 🙄
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1991487813389545609?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
They lost me when they called Arkansas a "coveted" job. Lol
It won't be Gruden and I'll be shocked if anything is announced before the season is officially over. Yuraclown better have an agreement in place with someone this week before Ole Miss and Mizzou come open.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 20, 2025, 12:02 PMGruden would be a disaster.
An unmitigated disaster.
His entire offensive scheme is terribly complex even for professional players. College kids would turn to mush trying to learn his novella-sized playcalls and phonebook sized playbooks.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 20, 2025, 12:14 PMAn unmitigated disaster.
His entire offensive scheme is terribly complex even for professional players. College kids would turn to mush trying to learn his novella-sized playcalls and phonebook sized playbooks.
Especially with the high turnover of players now. One year to learn all that, no thanks.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 20, 2025, 12:14 PMAn unmitigated disaster.
His entire offensive scheme is terribly complex even for professional players. College kids would turn to mush trying to learn his novella-sized playcalls and phonebook sized playbooks.
"Trips right, tight see left 58 Delta, see choice, Green right close pass 14 solid C slam drag, spider two wide banana hexo, on two, on two, ready, break."
And with the small window of time to get the call into the QB's helmet:
Quote from: GeoHogsGeo on Nov 20, 2025, 12:19 PM"Trips right, tight see left 58 Delta, see choice, Green right close pass 14 solid C slam drag, spider two wi--
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 20, 2025, 10:43 AMLSU, Florida, and Auburn gotta get their choices. If any of them hire Kiffin or Drinkshitz then anyone we're talking to just might step back and let Jimmy Sexton buttsecks us one more time.
sexton doesn't represent morris, sumrall, golesh, campbell, or dillingham.
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 20, 2025, 12:07 PMThey lost me when they called Arkansas a "coveted" job. Lol
Same here.
It is going to be Urban Meyer.
Really.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Nov 20, 2025, 11:34 AMSonny Dykes says hi.
Please no.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 20, 2025, 09:47 AMthey can't announce someone who is still coaching. you got at least 2 more weeks.
If they have someone already inked, I wish they would announce a new coach had been hired but they would wait until after his season is over to announce. That could make a lot of fan bases squirm for the next couple of weeks wondering if it was their coach. :D
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 11:26 AMapparently Newsweek says it's gruden 🙄
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1991487813389545609?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Man, this dude is a attention whore. There is no way a trailer salesman from Backwater, AR knows shit. Neither does the reporters, or Mike "ferret top" Irwin, or Marble mouth. Outside Hearsurcheck, a few board members or donors, and the next UofA coach, no one knows shit.
Gotta say though, they're all ridiculously entertaining.
Quote from: dhog on Nov 20, 2025, 01:33 PMMan, this dude is a attention whore. There is no way a trailer salesman from Backwater, AR knows shit. Neither does the reporters, or Mike "ferret top" Irwin, or Marble mouth. Outside Hearsurcheck, a few board members or donors, and the next UofA coach, no one knows shit.
Gotta say though, they're all ridiculously entertaining.
his ego is very inflated for being so fugly and posting such shit.
Honestly I won't be disappointed in anyone we pick because I stopped years ago having expectations of our football program. Mediocrity reigns
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 20, 2025, 01:24 PMIt is going to be Urban Meyer.
Really.
We could do worse.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 20, 2025, 01:24 PMIt is going to be Urban Meyer.
Really.
Can't wait for the Netflix special.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 20, 2025, 02:19 PMCan't wait for the Netflix special.
The one about his return from coaching or the later one when the program burns down and closes its doors.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 20, 2025, 02:28 PMThe one about his return from coaching or the later one when the program burns down and closes its doors.
as long as there's a championship in between.
It's a slow day...maybe I need to go taunt that scott bales retard in twitter
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 20, 2025, 02:47 PMIt's a slow day...maybe I need to go taunt that scott bales retard in twitter
Remind him the whole state has seen his wife's fake knockers
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 20, 2025, 02:53 PMRemind him the whole state has seen his wife's fake knockers
done.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 20, 2025, 02:53 PMRemind him the whole state has seen his wife's fake knockers
Well, he is the one who showed the whole state so I don't think he needs much reminding.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 20, 2025, 03:22 PMWell, he is the one who showed the whole state so I don't think he needs much reminding.
I mean, she should cover her tits, but the 17 year old horn dog inside of me says that she should flaunt those puppies if that makes her happy.
I figured that was you
Dabo?
"With Gruden he just needs 15 years to get his players and offense in"
Keep sending those checks though
Also I saw an article saying they interviewed Gus.
it would be the most arkansas thing ever to hire a guy (gruden) that you could have hired 2 months ago and been done.
Summrall was supposed to interview with Florida but has withdrawn - either he finalized a deal with Auburn, is staying at Tulane or Florida has their guy and this weekend gets wild.
hunter hired Tom Herman and Major Applewhite at Houston, would he do it again?
That Brennan Marion guy picked a bad year to go be a HC at some shit directional school...another year at a decent OC gig and he'd probably getting a HC job at a P5.
Looks like Oregon State is interviewing him though but that's barely a P5 gig anymore.
I've saw Mario Cristobal's name out there today. Oh boy....
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 20, 2025, 06:45 PMI've saw Mario Cristobal's name out there today. Oh boy....
Would we all run off a cliff in unison, or would we prefer to gather at the cliff and just toss Yurachek and the entire BoT off of it instead?
Sonny Dykes?
TCU would LOVE that
I have zero faith and zero expectation in them making a good hire. It'll be somebody like Gus or another retread loser. We might as well keep the retread we have. At least he wants to be here. I guess he does, maybe he doesn't.
Quote from: Guardrail on Nov 20, 2025, 07:22 PMI have zero faith and zero expectation in them making a good hire. It'll be somebody like Gus or another retread loser. We might as well keep the retread we have. At least he wants to be here. I guess he does, maybe he doesn't.
Gus or UNT's Morris. It'll be one of those two.
Whoever it is will be our 5th or 6th choice.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 20, 2025, 07:46 PMGus or UNT's Morris. It'll be one of those two.
Whoever it is will be our 5th or 6th choice.
Gus make perfect with our tradition
They'll hire Gus and pretend it's a homerun when we weren't even competing with anyone for him to probably include Florida State...his present employer.
I would be amazaiig if they hired Gus. Simply because it's well known that half the fanbase can't stand the guy.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 20, 2025, 07:22 PMSonny Dykes?
TCU would LOVE that
Listening to Memphis radio today, they are praying for someone to come in and swoop silverfield out. Basically saying he has the most NIL of all the conference teams and has yet to win the conference. Doing less with more.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 20, 2025, 09:04 PMI would be amazaiig if they hired Gus. Simply because it's well known that half the fanbase can't stand the guy.
Amazed. Not Amazing O0
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 20, 2025, 09:04 PMI would be amazaiig if they hired Gus. Simply because it's well known that half the fanbase can't stand the guy.
Nothing would surprise me at this point, including re-hiring Sam with a raise and extension.
If you throw out enough names, you have to be right at some point. I think that is what is happening by some people.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 20, 2025, 09:16 PMDoing less with more.
The SEC's motto: It just means more.
Arkansas's motto: Doing less with more.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 21, 2025, 09:54 AMThe SEC's motto: It just means more.
Arkansas's motto: Doing less with more.
The SEC's motto: It just means more.
Arkansas' motto: It just means more pain.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 21, 2025, 09:38 AMIf you throw out enough names, you have to be right at some point. I think that is what is happening by some people.
That, or "I was right but things changed.....".
That human testicle duckman better disappear if it's not Gruden.
why would he disappear? he's been saying the same shit since 2012. the mouth breathers love it.
We know who Duckman is on the X/Twitter.
Who is this twat-waffle?
He's been spewing stupid shit for a few weeks now.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 21, 2025, 01:35 PMHe's been spewing stupid shit for a few weeks now.
Yes, and usually saying some shit like "announcement by noon on Sunday if not sooner!" And yet, nothing happens. And the lemmings love it.
https://x.com/sekrah/status/1991503740176568800?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Quote from: RPL on Nov 21, 2025, 01:30 PMWe know who Duckman is on the X/Twitter.
Who is this twat-waffle?
that twat waffle is jakota sainsbury, an internet sports media sleuth with which i am unfamiliar. but of this i am certain, he is a twat waffle.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 21, 2025, 02:04 PMhttps://x.com/sekrah/status/1991503740176568800?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
can we purchase a cheat sheet from virginia tech so that our dumbfuck university system and board of trustees will know what to fucking do?
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 02:05 PMthat twat waffle is jakota sainsbury, an internet sports media sleuth with which i am unfamiliar. but of this i am certain, he is a twat waffle.
He claims we almost hired him to run the NIL collective. Wtf???
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 21, 2025, 02:04 PMhttps://x.com/sekrah/status/1991503740176568800?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
That person doesn't know anything.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 02:06 PMcan we purchase a cheat sheet from virginia tech so that our dumbfuck university system and board of trustees will know what to fucking do?
It's embarrassing to be a fan of this program.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 21, 2025, 02:07 PMIt's embarrassing to be a fan of this program.
they can hire me for twice my current salary to be an athletic administrative consultant, or the general manager, whatever, i don't care, it would be cheap compared to other salaries in the department. i know nothing about how to run an athletic program, but i could make it up as i go and do lightyears better than this bumble fuck.
it doesn't hurt that i'm a smart motherfucker with a penchant for problem solving and a creative imagination.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 21, 2025, 02:06 PMHe claims we almost hired him to run the NIL collective. Wtf???
Dan Lanning was a GA at Alabama and a DC at Georgia before taking the HC job at Oregon. He's 39, which is actually impressive for the name he's made for himself. Point is, he doesn't have to be "intrigued" by the SEC - he already knows what it's about and he knows whether or not he wants in.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 21, 2025, 02:04 PMhttps://x.com/sekrah/status/1991503740176568800?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Kinda funny and sad that none of us are second guessing this.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 21, 2025, 02:07 PMThat person doesn't know anything.
how do you know?
After the LRTD club mess the last 2 years and then speaking out of his ass tuesday night, only can only imagine how bad the "interviews" are going.
https://x.com/CFBKings/status/1990963336591130857?s=20
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 21, 2025, 02:20 PMhow do you know?
After the LRTD club mess the last 2 years and then speaking out of his ass tuesday night, only can only imagine how bad the "interviews" are going.
https://x.com/CFBKings/status/1990963336591130857?s=20
Other VT people said he's just some random fan.
https://x.com/BarstoolGruden/status/1991896859296792887
could it be?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 21, 2025, 02:20 PMhow do you know?
After the LRTD club mess the last 2 years and then speaking out of his ass tuesday night, only can only imagine how bad the "interviews" are going.
https://x.com/CFBKings/status/1990963336591130857?s=20
counterpoint and to aid hy and the committee...the better team doesn't always win. if you believe notre dame would beat miami in a neutral site game more often than not, then you rank nd higher. we aren't splitting atoms here guys.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 21, 2025, 02:22 PMhttps://x.com/BarstoolGruden/status/1991896859296792887
could it be?
red and white shoes. its a sign from santa claus.
I think Cowboy Tiger is right and Gruden is an alcoholic.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 21, 2025, 02:27 PMI think Cowboy Tiger is right and Gruden is an alcoholic.
his pink face doesn't do him any favors dispelling that rumor
It would explain the Daly bromance.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 02:05 PMthat twat waffle is jakota sainsbury, an internet sports media sleuth with which i am unfamiliar. but of this i am certain, he is a twat waffle.
With a name like Jakota, how could he not be?
Quote from: HTL on Nov 21, 2025, 02:27 PMI think Cowboy Tiger is right and Gruden is an alcoholic.
Alcoholic blush.
Ok, it's me. I am the next coach. Keep this here.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 21, 2025, 03:27 PMOk, it's me. I am the next coach. Keep this here.
Do you have a $500,000/yr job lying around you can send my way? I am qualified for either Get Back Coach or Arkansas Defensive Coordinator.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 21, 2025, 03:29 PMDo you have a $500,000/yr job lying around you can send my way? I am qualified for either Get Back Coach or Arkansas Defensive Coordinator.
Only if you are about to retire.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 21, 2025, 03:33 PMOnly if you are about to retire.
I'll accept the position currently held by Chris Wilson, but only if you change the title to War Coordinator.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 21, 2025, 03:33 PMOnly if you are about to retire.
So a five year deal sounds about right then?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 21, 2025, 02:11 PMKinda funny and sad that none of us are second guessing this.
I think we just assumed that anyone posting as SEKRAH was full of shit and didn't need any further attention.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 21, 2025, 02:27 PMI think Cowboy Tiger is right and Gruden is an alcoholic.
Yep.
Retired sports ball people that got paid hit the bottle more often than not.
Even still, calling the commish an "anti football pussy" was spot on.
Thamel is pretty credible.
https://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1991997309421535235?t=mNcfHT5-osjolHhNOExDqw&s=19 (https://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1991997309421535235?t=mNcfHT5-osjolHhNOExDqw&s=19)
Matt Campbell's name has been popping up this evening.
Matt Campbell is a homerun hire...5 or 6 years ago. I'd still be happy with him but this is a nice cushy free money spot before retiring. You could retire without anyone knowing about it for at least 5 years...ask me how I know.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 21, 2025, 06:22 PMMatt Campbell's name has been popping up this evening.
Poaching the 0.600 head coach from the 9th-ranked team in the Big <checks notes> 12 would be peak us.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 21, 2025, 06:30 PMPoaching the 0.600 head coach from the 9th-ranked team in the Big <checks notes> 12 would be peak us.
Campbell is a good coach. It's Iowa State.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 21, 2025, 06:17 PMThamel is pretty credible.
https://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1991997309421535235?t=mNcfHT5-osjolHhNOExDqw&s=19 (https://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1991997309421535235?t=mNcfHT5-osjolHhNOExDqw&s=19)
I saw that earlier. The On3 equivalent of 'there will be news.'
Per wikipedia:
Matthew Allen Campbell (born November 29, 1979) is an American college football coach. He is the head football coach at the University of Arkansas, a position he has held since the 2025 season. Campbell was head football coach at Iowa State University from 2016-2025 and University of Toledo from 2011 to 2015 prior to that. Campbell has also been an assistant at Toledo, Bowling Green, and Mount Union. Campbell grew up in Ohio and briefly attended the University of Pittsburgh before transferring to Mount Union, where he played defensive line.
I was going to mention this earlier but compared to everyone else Arkansas fans are kinda like...whatever. Nobody is excited about the next future Mrs. EX head coach of the Razorbacks.
I was excited about BP but our retarded fan base and administration wants to go a different direction.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 21, 2025, 06:32 PMCampbell is a good coach. It's Iowa State.
Sure, he's won the Big 12 twice. He's also had more than 3 conference losses in 5 of his 9 full years. Say it's Iowa State all you want, but that's a garbage conference.
If he's the hire it feels like it'll only be because of his 3-8 record against Texas. Or that time Toledo beat us when Bert was doing something that was supposed to resemble coaching.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 21, 2025, 06:58 PMI was excited about BP but our retarded fan base and administration wants to go a different direction.
I don't think they ever really considered BP. Hunter making the hire isn't the worst thing for us. Those retarded buttfucks that like to run things behind the scenes making the hire would be our worst case scenario, again.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 21, 2025, 06:32 PMCampbell is a good coach. It's Iowa State.
he's the definition of doing more with less. program builder, buyout of $2 million, and is his own agent.
be surprised if it's him tho.
Wanted him when he was at Toledo. He would be a solid hire imo.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 21, 2025, 07:01 PMHire him immediately.
That shit can change in the blink of an eye.
our luck, we'll hire campbell, they'll hire chesney and be in the playoff next year. its the razorback way.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 21, 2025, 07:00 PMI don't think they ever really considered BP. Hunter making the hire isn't the worst thing for us. Those retarded buttfucks that like to run things behind the scenes making the hire would be our worst case scenario, again.
Hunter is hiring whoever he is told to hire. Expect another WTF hire.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 07:10 PMour luck, we'll hire campbell, they'll hire chesney and be in the playoff next year. its the razorback way.
Was thinking this. We need to figure out who they'd hire next and go hire that guy
Just a reminder that Iowa State had 6 straight losing seasons before Campbell came in, they only won 8 games in the last 3 of those COMBINED. They won 11 last season.
I want Oregon's coach, too, sure. But Campbell is a solid hire for this program at this point.
Campbell >>>>>>>> Gus
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 21, 2025, 07:00 PMhe's the definition of doing more with less. program builder, buyout of $2 million, and is his own agent.
be surprised if it's him tho.
Being your own agent don't go around here, savvy? Jimmy Sexton will save Campbell from himself.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 21, 2025, 08:43 PMBeing your own agent don't go around here, savvy? Jimmy Sexton will save Campbell from himself.
didn't you hear him? being your own agent don't go round here.
I would certainly be in favor of Campbell. The guy almost always has competitive teams-- and sometimes very good ones.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 21, 2025, 08:58 PMI would certainly be in favor of Campbell. The guy almost always has competitive teams-- and sometimes very good ones.
That's perfect because we almost always almost win.
gus with an offensive juggernaut performance at nc state. 3 points with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 08:51 PMdidn't you hear him? being your own agent don't go round here.
Hey...we don't want any trouble in here...not with any agent.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 21, 2025, 09:04 PMThat's perfect because we almost always almost win.
Almost always having a competitive team would be a big improvement.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 09:09 PMgus with an offensive juggernaut performance at nc state. 3 points with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
He is going against a mid-ACC team, not Alabama
Quote from: egregious on Nov 21, 2025, 09:42 PMHe is going against a mid-ACC team, not Alabama
He is setting them up for the Kick Six special.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 21, 2025, 09:09 PMgus with an offensive juggernaut performance at nc state. 3 points with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
He's probably zillowing homes in NWA in between play calls.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 21, 2025, 09:33 PMAlmost always having a competitive team would be a big improvement.
We have been competitive in every game this year except Notre Dame. It would very literally be more of the same.
I disagree. A competitive team wins sometimes.
Quote from: animal on Nov 21, 2025, 06:29 PMMatt Campbell is a homerun hire...5 or 6 years ago. I'd still be happy with him but this is a nice cushy free money spot before retiring. You could retire without anyone knowing about it for at least 5 years...ask me how I know.
Matt Campbell has turned down better football programs than this inept one. Why on Earth would he come here?
Quote from: RPL on Nov 21, 2025, 11:40 PMMatt Campbell has turned down better football programs than this inept one. Why on Earth would he come here?
Agreed, the nfl has tried to poach him, why now?
Kinda wild since he has 2 games left (Kansas, Oklahoma state)
The worst sec job (at the moment) is still better than any big 12 job right?
Still, a solid hire and dude has had good QBs.
Almost too good to be true.
I thought Campbell turned us down last time around? Would be a good hire if true. I figured he wanted a Big10 job.
we're still in the "You'll never guess who it is" stage...is it ever who anyone says it is until about 2 or 3 hours out before the announcement?
Jake Dickert (Wake Forest) I think would be another interesting choice...got that makes out with shit resources dna we're looking for and still manages to field a competitive football team.
Campbell would be that guy you hire because you need a name and he really should have already bounced from Iowa State. He's 45 and still has a lot of tread on the tires...likely still has some great years of coaching to go yet. Does he really want to spend those years slogging it out in the SEC with Arkansas? Doubtful. Also if the tea leafs are correct Missouri could open if Dork goes to LSU when Kiffin doesn't take that gig. Missouri immediately becomes a much better job than Arkansas which is fucking sad.
The new SEC scheduling model may have some impact on how we're percieved because we're not always going to be getting ass pounded by Alabama every single fucking year. Instead we'll have our salad tossed by a variety of teams.
I could get excited about Campbell, especially if he gets a top name OC
I can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
He wins 8 a year that historically (like over the last 100 years, not us since 2012) won 4 or fewer.
The only other coach to leave there with a winning record in the last 100 years is Earle Bruce who was 36-32 when he left for Ohio State in 1978. Before that the last one left in 1919. Campbell has their only 10+ win season (2024) and one of their two 9 win years.
The only reason he might be willing to leave is that ISU has supported NIL even less than we have. Campbell took a $1MM pay cut last year for that money to be diverted to their NIL efforts.
Iowa State was as bad as Vanderbilt historically if not worse before Campbell got there.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 08:30 AMHe wins 8 a year that historically (like over the last 100 years, not us since 2012) won 4 or fewer.
maybe some of these guys need to actually look at their program history.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/iowa-state/index.html
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
Who are these better options you speak of?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 08:30 AMHe wins 8 a year that historically (like over the last 100 years, not us since 2012) won 4 or fewer.
The only other coach to leave there with a winning record in the last 100 years is Earle Bruce who was 36-32 when he left for Ohio State in 1978. Before that the last one left in 1919.
The only reason he might be willing to leave is that ISU has supported NIL even less than we have. Campbell took a $1MM pay cut last year for that money to be diverted to their NIL efforts.
If he can do that at Iowa State just think what he can do here! WATCH OUT KIRBY SMART!
I don't think that computes. I just wanna beat Dorkawitz.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
Fucking clown.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
How many times have we won 8 games since Bobby 1.0 ?
Sam's 9 win season was a result of Covid - everyone else's good players left for the nfl so we had the oldest team of super seniors which as we saw proved to be a one off as it was not sustainable.
A 10 win a year coach isn't walking through that door, we are dead fricking last in the SEC RIGHT NOW.
We can't beat Missouri much less cover the spread.
We are looking at our THIRD WINLESS SEC season under the current AD.
Wake up to the reality of the situation. Your mentality is exactly why we are mired in shit right now because you refuse to see the reality of where this program and sport is while hugging on to memeories of 1964 and 2012 cause it gives you warm fuzzies.
Hopefully Campbell, if it is him, brings the Iowa state AD with him.
Note: he is doing this in Ames, fricking Iowa and I believe many wanted Gary Patterson to come here, so.....
Campbell is the winningest coach in program history, surpassing Dan McCarney during a magical 2024 season. He enters his 10th season with a record of 64-51 in Ames and his winning percentage (55.7 pct.) is also the best in school history. Additionally, no Cyclone football coach has more conference wins (45) or a better conference winning percentage (55.6) than Campbell.
Campbell's 45 Big 12 Conference wins are tied with Gary Patterson (TCU) for the seventh-most in league history.
National rankings and bowl berths have become the norm thanks to Campbell's leadership. The three-time Big 12 Coach of the Year (2017, 2018, 2020) has led the Cyclones to winning records and bowl games in seven of the last eight seasons, including a school-record five straight from 2017-21, and regular appearances in the national rankings.
The 2024 Cyclone football team rewrote the record books, finishing with an 11-3 record as it recorded the first double-digit win season in the program's 133-year history. The team tied for first-place in the Big 12 regular-season standings, reached the program's second conference championship game, both of which have come under Campbell, and defeated No. 15 Miami in the Pop-Tarts Bowl.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
Based on your criteria for judging a coaching hire, you would've also been a hard pass on Nick Saban before he went to LSU. His record at Michigan St. is very similar to Campbell's at Iowa St.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 22, 2025, 09:16 AMBased on your criteria for judging a coaching hire, you would've also been a hard pass on Nick Saban before he went to LSU. His record at Michigan St. is very similar to Campbell's at Iowa St.
That's exactly what I was thinking about. Not to say he is Saban or we are LSU, but very similar records.
Fuck it. I have seen the light. Hire Campbell. We can repeat the process in 5-6 years.
Edit: it is funny to me that we have historically ragged on the Big 12 as being a shitty conference that only had two good teams year in and year out. Now we want to hire a guy who led one of the worst teams in that conference and he is sold as the next Saban.
Whoever it needs to keep the top in-state talent home. Pittman has maintained the border as well as Biden did.
Bryant has 2 kids committed to OU and one to Missouri., that is shameful, thanks Sam.
Hiring Campbell out of Iowa State is like Penn State hiring Franklin out of Vandy.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 22, 2025, 09:16 AMBased on your criteria for judging a coaching hire, you would've also been a hard pass on Nick Saban before he went to LSU. His record at Michigan St. is very similar to Campbell's at Iowa St.
Now Campbell is the next Saban?
Jesus take the wheel!
I remember when LSU hired Saban and people were talking it being a great hire. I looked at his record and I was like, WTF? He seemed pretty mediocre.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 09:33 AMNow Campbell is the next Saban?
Jesus take the wheel!
Oh yeah, that's exactly what I said. The more and more I read your posts, I'm beginning to suspect your just another screen name for HTL, and you're just trolling us.
Since there are so many better programs than ours looking right now, we will end up with the leftovers. So, look for us to be looking again in about 3-4 years.
Since my number 1 is not going to happen, Matt Campbell is a terrific hire for all the reasons already mentioned.
I like it A LOT. Iowa St. is college football no man's land.
If Arkansas provides him the cash, he will build a winner here. A big winner.
And he doesn't bounce around either. We could be his destination job.
The guy's a great coach. We would be very very fortunate
Quote from: red death on Nov 22, 2025, 10:22 AMIowa St. is college football no man's land.
If Ames is college football purgatory, based on the last 15 years, Fayetteville is college football hell.
When asked about the Arkansas job a lot of these coaches are about to respond by saying..."I'm not ready to retire yet".
so apparently grit posted something about campbell but had a picture of dan campbell instead. arkansas media folks.
I don't think anyone is saying Campbell is a top 10 coach in the country, but we ain't getting one of those anyways.
When your pool is John Gruden plus a bunch of unproven G5 coaches, Campbell should easily look like a better hire than the rest.
He is a good coach. Not enamored with his offenses, but I really haven't paid attention to him in a long time.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 22, 2025, 10:45 AMI don't think anyone is saying Campbell is a top 10 coach in the country, but we ain't getting one of those anyways.
When your pool is John Gruden plus a bunch of unproven G5 coaches, Campbell should easily look like a better hire than the rest.
He would be a great hire for Arkansas. For anyone else with current job openings, he would be a good hire.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 22, 2025, 10:33 AMso apparently grit posted something about campbell but had a picture of dan campbell instead. arkansas media folks.
I wonder how many recruits he's scared off over the years.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 10:50 AMI wonder how many recruits he's scared off over the years.
Probably not as many as Tulsa hanging out at The Catfish Hole asking them if they're gonna eat their last hushpuppy while he inches close enough to smell their hair.
News will leak at the end of our game. Banhammer for anyone that doesn't keep this here!!
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 22, 2025, 09:49 AMOh yeah, that's exactly what I said. The more and more I read your posts, I'm beginning to suspect you're just another screen name for HTL, and you're just trolling us.
And I said Campbell couldn't be the next Saban. See how that works?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 09:24 AMFuck it. I have seen the light. Hire Campbell. We can repeat the process in 5-6 years.
Edit: it is funny to me that we have historically ragged on the Big 12 as being a shitty conference that only had two good teams year in and year out. Now we want to hire a guy who led one of the worst teams in that conference and he is sold as the next Saban.
We are talking about hiring the guy that took one of the 2-3 worst programs in all of college football and made them one of the best in their conference. Given that we have currently supplanted them in that bottom tier in CFB someone who could improve us to winning between 7-11 games per year would be akin to Alabama replacing Mike Shula with Saban.
No. I'm not saying Campbell = Saban. I'm saying he would improve us nearly as much as dumping Shula for Saban improved Alabama
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 22, 2025, 09:49 AMOh yeah, that's exactly what I said. The more and more I read your posts, I'm beginning to suspect your just another screen name for HTL, and you're just trolling us.
What a fucking insult. Who the fuck are you?
we should probably get ready for pj fleck, kliff kingsbury, or kane wommack.
way too much hope being pumped.
Why would Campbell come here he just signed an extension
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 22, 2025, 12:48 PMWhy would Campbell come here he just signed an extension
Their NIL is less than ours if you can believe that. His salary is only $4MM...we can likely double that.
He lives in Ames fucking Iowa.
and his buyout is $2 million, something he wanted in the contract.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 22, 2025, 12:47 PMwe should probably get ready for pj fleck, kliff kingsbury, or kane wommack.
way too much hope being pumped.
My wife strongly approves of Kliffy.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 21, 2025, 11:40 PMMatt Campbell has turned down better football programs than this inept one. Why on Earth would he come here?
I think if he leaves it's more about the Big XII being a second tier conference now
Arkansas is patient and has reasonable expectations and that will appeal to some
Auburn by contrast grinds up and spits out coaches, and he's not a candidate for an LSU or Florida (though last year may have been)
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 12:28 PMWhat a fucking insult. Who the fuck are you?
It was a low blow for sure. As if I'd ever drive a Kia.
Now we have posters saying that Iowa State is one of the best teams in their conference. My lawd.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 02:18 PMIt was a low blow for sure. As if I'd ever drive a Kia.
That cost your annual salary. As if I don't have a fleet of toys.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 02:21 PMThat cost your annual salary. As if I don't have a fleet of toys.
I can barely afford a used Nissan Versa on my hourly pay.
The navy green Geo Tracker is where you really want to be. The hunter blue Dodge Neon is a solid backup.
Of course, we probably can't afford it.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 22, 2025, 02:33 PMThe navy green Geo Tracker is where you really want to be. The hunter blue Dodge Neon is a solid backup.
Of course, we probably can't afford it.
The mid 90s was such a good time period.
Back from the gym. We hire Luther Campbell yet?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 02:37 PMThe mid 90s was such a good time period.
I'd give up the last ten years of life to relive the 90's again.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 22, 2025, 02:44 PMBack from the gym. We hire Luther Campbell yet?
Archie Campbell. Singer of "Gloom, despair, and agony in me...."
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 02:48 PMI'd give up the last ten years of life to relive the 90's again.
Agree.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 22, 2025, 02:48 PMArchie Campbell. Singer of "Gloom, despair, and agony in me...."
Too bad Glen is no longer with us. He had strong Arkansas ties.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 02:20 PMNow we have posters saying that Iowa State is one of the best teams in their conference. My lawd.
They have been since Campbell got there.
You should watch football sometime.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 08:28 AMI can't believe you guys are talking about Matt Campbell as an exciting hire.
He has fielded a team that has won more than 8 games in a season two times (9 and 11 wins). He has one season where he has won more than 10 once (11 wins).
He is a lifetime 8 win coach. I guess his 1-1 record in the Liberty Bowl excites the base.
There are much better options so hard pass.
Day dranking at your age? Shine on you crazy diamond.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 03:13 PMThey have been since Campbell got there.
You should watch football sometime.
No. They are not. They are middle of the pack. Finishing in 1st one time doesn't erase his entire shitty tenure.
He is HDN without the cringe.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 03:15 PMNo. They are not. They are middle of the pack. Finishing in 1st one time doesn't erase his entire shitty tenure.
He is HDN without the cringe.
They have won or tied for the title twice. Finished tied for 2nd or 3rd a couple more times. At the hardest place to win in the league by far, and one of the toughest in the country.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 03:27 PMThey have won or tied for the title twice. Finished tied for 2nd or 3rd a couple more times. At the hardest place to win in the league by far, and one of the toughest in the country.
You're wasting your time.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 03:27 PMThey have won or tied for the title twice. Finished tied for 2nd or 3rd a couple more times. At the hardest place to win in the league by far, and one of the toughest in the country.
wudn't no back to back january one bowls, chuck
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Only an Arkansas fan would be excited at hiring a coach with this jacket.
I yield. Let's go all in on Matt Campbell.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 03:29 PMYou're wasting your time.
The fact you support a Matt Campbell hire solidifies it's a terrible fucking idea.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 03:32 PMThe fact you support a Matt Campbell hire solidifies it's a terrible fucking idea.
Yeah, that's it. As if I'm not correct in perpetuity about stuff like this. Every single fan across the country would think that's a grand slam hire.
nm
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 03:38 PMAs if I'm not correct in perpetuity about stuff like this.
::)
Quote from: egregious on Nov 22, 2025, 03:59 PM::)
He's even wrong about how often he's right. :rofl:
We have Pitt tonight. GO GT!
Quote from: TC on Nov 22, 2025, 04:07 PMHe's even wrong about how often he's right. :rofl:
We have Pitt tonight. GO GT!
It is either going to go well or you and I are going to endure 6 straight hours of really bad defense.
This is for all the marbles.
nm...wrong thread
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 03:32 PMThe fact you support a Matt Campbell hire solidifies it's a terrible fucking idea.
You said this team would win 9-10 games.
I assume you also wouldn't want Clark Lea. His record isn't good either.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 05:08 PMYou said this team would win 9-10 games.
I did. That is true. I guess you have been correct in all you win/loss predictions?
Had I realized that one prediction would invalidate my option for the rest of eternity, I might not have made it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 03:31 PMIMG_9090.png
Only an Arkansas fan would be excited at hiring a coach with this jacket.
I yield. Let's go all in on Matt Campbell.
You want Petrino. His best year in the SEC he was 3rd in his DIVISION. See how that works?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 05:09 PMI did. That is true. I guess you have been correct in all you win/loss predictions?
Had I realized that one prediction would invalidate my option for the rest of eternity, I might not have made it.
When you (or I) say stupid shit expect to get called on it.
Your take on Campbell is beyond retarded. It happens.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 22, 2025, 05:27 PMWhen you (or I) say stupid shit expect to get called on it.
Your take on Campbell is beyond retarded. It happens.
Fair enough. Time will tell.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 22, 2025, 05:25 PMYou want Petrino. His best year in the SEC he was 3rd in his DIVISION. See how that works?
Surly we can agree that being ranked 3rd in the nation and 3rd im the conference when the 1st and 2nd place teams are ranked 1 and 2 in the county is drastically different than anything Campbell has accomplished in the Bug 12. Maybe not though.
I get it. My take is retarded. As I said above, time will tell. I do hope it works out.
Quote from: TC on Nov 22, 2025, 04:07 PMHe's even wrong about how often he's right. :rofl:
We have Pitt tonight. GO GT!
Holy shit that's hilarious. You recommended Moderna at $400 a share and it's at $23. You recommended countless other shitcos when you have no qualifications. People that give unqualified investment advice go to jail. You were wrong about the baseball team last year. You were wrong about Bobby this year. Your countless stupid takes on Green. Stack that on top of your generationally stupid political takes.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 05:09 PMI did. That is true. I guess you have been correct in all you win/loss predictions?
Had I realized that one prediction would invalidate my option for the rest of eternity, I might not have made it.
You're kind of douching up the basketball threads too.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 22, 2025, 05:37 PMHoly shit that's hilarious. You recommended Moderna at $400 a share and it's at $23. You recommended countless other shitcos when you have no qualifications. People that give unqualified investment advice go to jail. You were wrong about the baseball team last year. You were wrong about Bobby this year. Your countless stupid takes on Green. Stack that on top of your generationally stupid political takes.
Moderna at $80, and it went to $400 before I sold. Just say thank you and stfu.
I don't make this shit up. You literally have the reputation with this entire board of being wrong about almost everything you post.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 22, 2025, 05:49 PMYou're kind of douching up the basketball threads too.
How so? I don't think I've said anything controversial in the basketball threads. Unless saying things like Thomas is my favorite player and Brazile can jump out of the gym is frowned upon.
I did say im not a fan of the big white boy. But that was after he set a nice seal to allow a layup by one of our youngsters. Those two things cancel each other out.
Whoever our next coach is, I already think he's retarded for wanting to come into this flaming heap.
Quote from: TC on Nov 22, 2025, 05:50 PMModerna at $80, and it went to $400 before I sold. Just say thank you and stfu.
I don't make this shit up. You literally have the reputation with this entire board of being wrong about almost everything you post.
:rofl: holy shit
If Thamell is right about those 4 names, where did Campbell's name come from ?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 06:06 PMIf Thamell is right about those 4 names, where did Campbell's name come from ?
If our top choice is the 8-3 coach from USF then I would prefer Campbell.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 06:06 PMIf Thamell is right about those 4 names, where did Campbell's name come from ?
Wishful thinking on woopigs part.
Interesting timing.....
https://x.com/hayesfawcett3/status/1992370902084755492?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
We're literally scraping the barrel.
Golesh has the lowest NIL budget in the AAC, and USF was dogshit before he got there. I'd take him or Morris if either could get the big boosters' support here.
But as long as we have Mr Yurachek, this program is not set-up to win in the current football climate. He said so himself publically, for all potential coaches and recruits to hear.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 06:12 PMInteresting timing.....
https://x.com/hayesfawcett3/status/1992370902084755492?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
got an offer from utah and will be taking a visit.
Fuck it. I'll support whoever it is but I'm prepared to be underwhelmed.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 22, 2025, 06:17 PMgot an offer from utah and will be taking a visit.
Apparently another QB committed
https://x.com/andrew_cherico/status/1992373536564936771?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 22, 2025, 06:31 PMFuck it. I'll support whoever it is but I'm prepared to be underwhelmed.
Man, I'd like to be as good a fan as you but I'm getting disillusioned by college football at this level.
I'm thinking it might be time to find something else to do with my fall Saturdays.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 22, 2025, 06:47 PMMan, I'd like to be as good a fan as you but I'm getting disillusioned by college football at this level.
I'm thinking it might be time to find something else to do with my fall Saturdays.
Can't blame ya...
Kane Womack - apparently in the mix at okie state too
https://247sports.com/college/oklahoma-state/article/oklahoma-state-coaching-candidate-rundown-kane-wommack-262554322/
took his first coaching job at South Alabama ahead of the 2021 season, making him the youngest NCAA head coach at the FBS level at 34-years-old when he was hired. He compiled a 22-16 record as head coach and took the Jaguars to bowl games in 2022 and 2023.
that whole thing seemed a little weird to me. why come on at the end of our game and say these are the four guys and it will be 7-10 before an announcement? why would anyone connected to our search want to give that out and lose leverage?
maybe wishful thinking on my part, who knows.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 22, 2025, 06:47 PMMan, I'd like to be as good a fan as you but I'm getting disillusioned by college football at this level.
I'm thinking it might be time to find something else to do with my fall Saturdays.
Also, I made the comment when Sam was fired that this hire will tell us how committed we sre to football and I still think that's true. We've been a bottom half team in the SEC for most of the last 15 years. Hiring one of those 4 coaches tells me that's just what we should expect to be. I'd love to be wrong.
Hmm...
https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1992396343495827680?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
"spaces tonight", what is that?
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 22, 2025, 07:23 PM"spaces tonight", what is that?
Like a group chat room on X
Just give Petrino a $25M NIL budget. Would be more of a sure thing than any of the other guys on the list.
Quote from: Hizog on Nov 22, 2025, 07:31 PMJust give Petrino a $25M NIL budget. Would be more of a sure thing than any of the other guys on the list.
Agreed. Should've done it the day Sam was fired. Named KJ QB1 and moved Taylen to WR.
To those who don't agree, tell me how many more games we would have lost.
I've lost about all the fucks about Petrino after seeing about 3 plays of KJ Jackson earlier today...
Does this genius from N.Texas have a track record of success beyond this current 9-1 hot streak he's on? Can somebody reassure me that we're not about to throw BMFP overboard for the next Stan Heath?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 22, 2025, 05:09 PMI did. That is true. I guess you have been correct in all you win/loss predictions?
Had I realized that one prediction would invalidate my option for the rest of eternity, I might not have made it.
I mean it wasn't that you just made a prediction but you doubled down on it. Fucker
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 22, 2025, 07:43 PMAgreed. Should've done it the day Sam was fired. Named KJ QB1 and moved Taylen to WR.
To those who don't agree, tell me how many more games we would have lost.
Why didn't he just do that with KJ in the first place. I'd predicted KJ the starter by Auburn at least. I thought a little tough to start against aTm or at Tennessee but should have been getting some looks either way.
I'm stilll not opposed to hiring him with a modest "prove it" contract unless you can hit a relative and realistic home run. I think Sumrall would be about the only home run of the g5 bunch.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Nov 22, 2025, 07:47 PMDoes this genius from N.Texas have a track record of success beyond this current 9-1 hot streak he's on? Can somebody reassure me that we're not about to throw BMFP overboard for the next Stan Heath?
He's 20-15 (11-11) at UNT so I will cease being a fan if he's hired.
it's pretty obvious the people with all the nil money folks want to give petrino don't feel that way. time to move on for better or worse.
Quote from: animal on Nov 22, 2025, 07:47 PMI've lost about all the fucks about Petrino after seeing about 3 plays of KJ Jackson earlier today...
and it's also pretty obvious he was going to ride with green regardless. he convinced someone to pay the kid his money and it ended up putting him in a no win situation.
Judas this thread.
Bobby knows stuff no one else does, then he doesn't and there is an excuse.....
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1992395767479513145?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
i get the feeling bones is kinda full of himself.
He was right but things changed.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 22, 2025, 08:00 PMHe's 20-15 (11-11) at UNT so I will cease being a fan if he's hired.
He's the economical choice.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 08:07 PMJudas this thread.
Bobby knows stuff no one else does, then he doesn't and there is an excuse.....
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1992395767479513145?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Jesus Christ, who are all these random people on Twitter/X
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 22, 2025, 08:09 PMi get the feeling bones is kinda full of himself.
Yea
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1992288313064255868?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Curry says Campbell may be legit, Womack is the one putting his name out there.
Good news is the commitment to NIL appears to be there.
People keep saying Walton's are involved but I do wonder if it actually is Walmart execs (McMillon and others) who are putting up money.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 22, 2025, 07:49 PMI mean it wasn't that you just made a prediction but you doubled down on it. Fucker
I think everyone who makes a prediction doubles down on the prediction until it isn't able to come true.
I was big on 10-2 until we lost the Memphis game.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 07:14 PMHmm...
https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1992396343495827680?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Man, Campbell sounds better and better. Let's go back to him as the hotness in the rumor mill(not that I think he'd come here).
What happened to all of the media types talking about how impressed they were with who we were hiring? None of these fit that.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 22, 2025, 08:10 PMHe's the economical choice.
Yeah. Bargain shopping is what got us here. The NEXT blue light special hire, though, will lead us to the promised land.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 22, 2025, 08:45 PMMan, Campbell sounds better and better. Let's go back to him as the hotness in the rumor mill(not that I think he'd come here).
What happened to all of the media types talking about how impressed they were with who we were hiring? None of these fit that.
That's what you call "clickbait".
Quote from: Corn Pop on Nov 22, 2025, 07:47 PMDoes this genius from N.Texas have a track record of success beyond this current 9-1 hot streak he's on? Can somebody reassure me that we're not about to throw BMFP overboard for the next Stan Heath?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 22, 2025, 08:00 PMHe's 20-15 (11-11) at UNT so I will cease being a fan if he's hired.
Played for "The Pirate" Mike Leach at TT. Don't know if he had a "fat girlfriend" while there.
WR coach under Leach at Wash St
OC for TT under Kinsbury where he coached Mahomes
Coached Cam Ward at Incarnate Word and Wash St
Landed John Mateer as Wash St OC
Has UNT 1 AAC Champ game from playing in CFP.
Could bring most of his roster with him, an upgrade over our current roster.
He's 40, so he;s hungry for success- he could be the next young hot coach, or more likely he could be a bust, but I'd be watching and cheering.
Give me Morris or Golesh over the other two on Thamel's list
Quote from: razor5396 on Nov 22, 2025, 08:11 PMJesus Christ, who are all these random people on Twitter/X
bobby doesn't know shit. Just like he didn't know shit when he was posting on RHF back in the day. Go be a DJ you are not a sports journalist
https://x.com/AdamFord92/status/1992414525128405380
Kinda feels like Adam Ford has jumped the shark.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 08:13 PMYea
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1992288313064255868?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Yeah I'm really tired of Bobby Bones being the most "famous" person who's a Hog fan.
He needs to go back to being a cuck for his beanpole wife.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 22, 2025, 07:55 PMWhy didn't he just do that with KJ in the first place. I'd predicted KJ the starter by Auburn at least. I thought a little tough to start against aTm or at Tennessee but should have been getting some looks either way.
I'm stilll not opposed to hiring him with a modest "prove it" contract unless you can hit a relative and realistic home run. I think Sumrall would be about the only home run of the g5 bunch.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 29, 2025, 07:03 PMBobby knew in spring 2024 that KJ Jackson was the future of this football team. In a panic of a move in Dec 2023, they bought Taylen. They had no backup plan. Bobby's choice and Fletch's money.
They had to play him. He prays to the Lord (which I have no problems with) but he is borderline retarded (Vince Young level Wonderlics) and is not fit to be QB1 in SEC play. His only future in football is at WR and I pray that he is there and KJ is taking snaps in Knoxville.
Not trying to be argumentative, but this was my stance from the start of firing Titboss.
May be a nothing burger but Moore was the first to report Cal when no one had a clue.
For the record, I don't see Dillingham leaving ASU.
https://x.com/Wess_Moore/status/1992442749237248242?t=v-RGEfBcdJvs6n09uyXcAg&s=19 (https://x.com/Wess_Moore/status/1992442749237248242?t=v-RGEfBcdJvs6n09uyXcAg&s=19)
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 22, 2025, 10:27 PMNot trying to be argumentative, but this was my stance from the start of firing Titboss.
Wasn't trying to be argumentative eitber. either. Agreed with you mostly. You said should've hired BP, the day Pitt was fired and named KJ QB. Just saying whether he was hired that day or or not, why not name KJ the starter or be prepping him. He knew he needed to win some games to have a chance to be HC. Surely he knew, at this point, that Green is just not a winner. I think Bobby waited too late to play this KJ card(captain obvious maybe) and it's ultimately costing him his chance. I've frequently questioned if this was a NIL or powers above Bobby making that decision to keep sticking with Green after his frequent lapses.
Yall right. Should have given Bobby the full-time job and told him do whatever it takes to start preparing for next season.
But, Arkansas being Arkansas, if there's a wrong decision to make...
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 22, 2025, 08:07 PMJudas this thread.
Bobby knows stuff no one else does, then he doesn't and there is an excuse.....
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1992395767479513145?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
I have never heard of Bobby Bones. Glad I didn't.
https://x.com/wess_moore/status/1992442749237248242?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/wess_moore/status/1992442749237248242?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Hmmm
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 23, 2025, 05:09 AMI have never heard of Bobby Bones. Glad I didn't.
He was Hoggybones on woopig back in the day.
I believe he's donating at a decent level so I imagine he's rubbing elbows with a few movers and shakers. That probably means he knows or thinks he knows some things. I think there's a couple guys on here that I don't know their direct connection but when they chime in it's time to listen and I think one of them has already said nobody knows shit. That was about a week ago and I imagine things have changed in a week...by all means we have to be getting closer.
If we're "falling back" it's possible they are still dragging their feet hoping Bobby pulls one off enough to say "See progress!!!". I just get this feeling if KJ Jackson had started 3 or 4 games this season we would be sitting here with at least 2 more wins. The kid just doesn't strike me as an idiot like Taylen. I get why they waited so long on Taylen because the kid has great ability but he's just not going to ever put it together. Maybe if you surrounded him with a lot of other talent he'd be something special. The WRs this season were a huge downgrade over last season...some of that due to injuries. The upgraded OL was still mostly garbage and we had a defense that was only getting off the field quickly because they couldn't cover an old lady in a wheelchair. We would have done about as well having a couple orange cones out there as safeties.
That all being said KJ Jackson when given the opportunities comes in and looks like he's supposed to be on the field and plays like he's supposed to be on the field. He plays pretty clean for being a young kid. He's making quick decisions and understands what he's trying to do. We haven't seen a long enough stretch to formulate lasting impressions but the snap shots we've gotten are very positive.
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 06:51 AMHe was Hoggybones on woopig back in the day.
I believe he's donating at a decent level so I imagine he's rubbing elbows with a few movers and shakers. That probably means he knows or thinks he knows some things. I think there's a couple guys on here that I don't know their direct connection but when they chime in it's time to listen and I think one of them has already said nobody knows shit. That was about a week ago and I imagine things have changed in a week...by all means we have to be getting closer.
If we're "falling back" it's possible they are still dragging their feet hoping Bobby pulls one off enough to say "See progress!!!". I just get this feeling if KJ Jackson had started 3 or 4 games this season we would be sitting here with at least 2 more wins. The kid just doesn't strike me as an idiot like Taylen. I get why they waited so long on Taylen because the kid has great ability but he's just not going to ever put it together. Maybe if you surrounded him with a lot of other talent he'd be something special. The WRs this season were a huge downgrade over last season...some of that due to injuries. The upgraded OL was still mostly garbage and we had a defense that was only getting off the field quickly because they couldn't cover an old lady in a wheelchair. We would have done about as well having a couple orange cones out there as safeties.
That all being said KJ Jackson when given the opportunities comes in and looks like he's supposed to be on the field and plays like he's supposed to be on the field. He plays pretty clean for being a young kid. He's making quick decisions and understands what he's trying to do. We haven't seen a long enough stretch to formulate lasting impressions but the snap shots we've gotten are very positive.
Ok. I didn't know or forgot about him being Hoggybones.
Yes, KJ should have at least started a couple games. Auburn and Miss St are the obvious ones.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 22, 2025, 10:17 PMYeah I'm really tired of Bobby Bones being the most "famous" person who's a Hog fan.
He needs to go back to being a cuck for his beanpole wife.
Is she...ok?
Screenshot 2025-11-23 081131.png
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 23, 2025, 07:12 AMIs she...ok?
Screenshot 2025-11-23 081131.png
I have seen her on the street with Bobby Bones in downtown Hot Springs. She is very thin, but pretty damn good looking.
I guess if you like fucking chopsticks
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 23, 2025, 07:12 AMIs she...ok?
Screenshot 2025-11-23 081131.png
"She don't eat meat, but she sure likes to bone"
"Bone to Bone"
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 22, 2025, 10:17 PMYeah I'm really tired of Bobby Bones being the most "famous" person who's a Hog fan.
In these trying times you miss Ralphie May.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 23, 2025, 07:12 AMIs she...ok?
Screenshot 2025-11-23 081131.png
The Ethiopians are taking up donations to send her food.
Oh, look. It's the Arkansas sports media "pretend I'm in the know" playbook again.
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1992611398816506322?s=20
I don't know John Nabors. I don't care to. He's just some guy.
But his face just says swarmy cocksucker to me and I can't get past it.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 23, 2025, 10:10 AMI don't know John Nabors. I don't care to. He's just some guy.
But his face just says swarmy cocksucker to me and I can't get past it.
Nwa sports radio
That tweet has been a Nabors schtick for awhile. Can't recall what started it. He's not the worst media guy. He has a sense of humor at least and doesn't put himself above the fanbase (that I know of). But yes, he has a punchable face.
It won't be a sitting head coach if it's announced today you wouldn't think.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 23, 2025, 09:58 AMOh, look. It's the Arkansas sports media "pretend I'm in the know" playbook again.
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1992611398816506322?s=20
Weathermen and sports reporters never have to be right.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 22, 2025, 11:28 PMWasn't trying to be argumentative eitber. either. Agreed with you mostly. You said should've hired BP, the day Pitt was fired and named KJ QB. Just saying whether he was hired that day or or not, why not name KJ the starter or be prepping him. He knew he needed to win some games to have a chance to be HC. Surely he knew, at this point, that Green is just not a winner. I think Bobby waited too late to play this KJ card(captain obvious maybe) and it's ultimately costing him his chance. I've frequently questioned if this was a NIL or powers above Bobby making that decision to keep sticking with Green after his frequent lapses.
Green is Bobby's guy. Had he been smart he would have flipped to kj on the bye when he took the job. New qb, new d staff, find whatever sparks you can. Instead he set out on a path to failure.
I have questioned a lot of his coaching g decisions. Like yesterday were down 1 buried inside the 10. Smart play is burn the clock and finish the half, at worst Texas gets the ball but just a few seconds and no time outs. Instead he passes and no clock burns and horns get ball with time outs and kick FG. Get ball to start. The stats show that closing the half and opening second half with at least ten points are back breaking. WTF are you thinking. It's as bad as greens stupid INT.
He's made a lot of dumb calls that have gone hand in hand with the turnover ratio and penalties. Clean house of everyone associated with this team
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 23, 2025, 09:58 AMOh, look. It's the Arkansas sports media "pretend I'm in the know" playbook again.
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1992611398816506322?s=20
Word is bones is the money guy behind nabors current venture.
Marcello says we should know in the next 48 hours
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 23, 2025, 11:14 AMMarcello says we should know in the next 48 hours
Then Bobby or someone else whose season is basically over already.
The Arizona State coach appeals to me.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 23, 2025, 11:14 AMMarcello says we should know in the next 48 hours
Would make sense. Need to give the fans something to be excited about at this point.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 23, 2025, 11:35 AMThe Arizona State coach appeals to me.
That would be huge! I want him or Morris.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 23, 2025, 10:10 AMI don't know John Nabors. I don't care to. He's just some guy.
But his face just says swarmy cocksucker to me and I can't get past it.
Any dude that clearly spends time in a tanning booth deserves to be punched in the face repeatedly
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 11:38 AMAny dude that clearly spends time in a tanning booth deserves to be punched in the face repeatedly
The fact that Chuck and Bo hate him makes me like him.
Speaking of punchable faces...
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 23, 2025, 11:23 AMThen Bobby or someone else whose season is basically over already.
Could still be a lower level guy or a P4 coach whose team is out of the playoff hunt.
or a coach who's team is going to end up in the whogivesafcuck bowl.
Because that's so much better.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 23, 2025, 12:05 PMor a coach who's team is going to end up in the whogivesafcuck bowl.
We don't need a coach that doesn't care about the bowl game banners!
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 23, 2025, 12:08 PMWe don't need a coach that doesn't care about the bowl game banners!
Well, it would help if he is proficient in the Liberty Bowl games.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 23, 2025, 11:11 AMGreen is Bobby's guy. Had he been smart he would have flipped to kj on the bye when he took the job. New qb, new d staff, find whatever sparks you can. Instead he set out on a path to failure.
I have questioned a lot of his coaching g decisions. Like yesterday were down 1 buried inside the 10. Smart play is burn the clock and finish the half, at worst Texas gets the ball but just a few seconds and no time outs. Instead he passes and no clock burns and horns get ball with time outs and kick FG. Get ball to start. The stats show that closing the half and opening second half with at least ten points are back breaking. WTF are you thinking. It's as bad as greens stupid INT.
He's made a lot of dumb calls that have gone hand in hand with the turnover ratio and penalties. Clean house of everyone associated with this team
We got the ball at 1:50. We had been hurting them on first down and would've again if the sun didn't get in Sharpe's eyes. If you assume Texas called timeout after the first two plays then after a third down run we'd punt with a minute left? A better punt would've put them back at maybe their own 40 with :50 left.
For the game, they had FOUR touchdown "drives" lasting under three minutes and covering at least 75 yards. Even with no timeouts, you don't think they could've gotten an extra 25 yards for a field goal against our air of a defense?
Our best chance was to try to get a first down and keep the ball away from them.
All I can say is thank you Jesus that Butch Jones is so terrible he can't even win at A-State.
The name will probably leak tonight. Verified tomorrow.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 23, 2025, 12:15 PMWe got the ball at 1:50. We had been hurting them on first down and would've again if the sun didn't get in Sharpe's eyes. If you assume Texas called timeout after the first two plays then after a third down run we'd punt with a minute left? A better punt would've put them back at maybe their own 40 with :50 left.
For the game, they had FOUR touchdown "drives" lasting under three minutes and covering at least 75 yards. Even with no timeouts, you don't think they could've gotten an extra 25 yards for a field goal against our air of a defense?
Our best chance was to try to get a first down and keep the ball away from them.
Correct
If it's Campbell or Dillingham I may be back on board.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 23, 2025, 12:31 PMIf it's Campbell or Dillingham I may be back on board.
Same, hard to imagine either leaving before next week's game, though
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 23, 2025, 12:32 PMSame, hard to imagine either leaving before next week's game, though
As always, I'm prepared to be disappointed.
Whoever we get needs to be a talent evaluator above all. Besides Hunter Henry and a few scattered OL and a kicker, we don't have anyone in the NFL. Until that changes, it doesn't matter who we hire.
The off field staff that has evaluated our players since NIL came in needs to never work in football again.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 23, 2025, 12:33 PMWhoever we get needs to be a talent evaluator above all. Besides Hunter Henry and a few scattered OL and a kicker, we don't have anyone in the NFL. Until that changes, it doesn't matter who we hire.
The off field staff that has evaluated our players since NIL came in needs to never work in football again.
Brandon Allen says put some respect on his name.
If it's announced early this week, it's not a currently active coach.
Then again, Bobby left the Falcons on Dec 1 (I think it was)
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1992660918610661412?s=20
We have a coach. No clue who though. ;D
If it doesn't happen...then things change. But keep clicking. :><:
Would Kingsbury resign mid season?
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 23, 2025, 12:40 PMhttps://x.com/bmarcello/status/1992660918610661412?s=20
We have a coach. No clue who though. ;D
Think about what movie the GIF is from.
More about the timeline than the hire.
Please not Kingsbury.
I'm fully prepared to be disappointed.
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1992630957635981791
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 23, 2025, 12:45 PMThink about what movie the GIF is from.
More about the timeline than the hire.
1982? 48 hours?
Everyone is so cryptic until it's mentioned, then it'll be, "well I knew late last week but didn't want to burn my sources."
Nothing turns grown men into a bunch of goober smacking faggots like a coaching search. I hate this shit.
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Nov 22, 2025, 09:15 PMPlayed for "The Pirate" Mike Leach at TT. Don't know if he had a "fat girlfriend" while there.
WR coach under Leach at Wash St
OC for TT under Kinsbury where he coached Mahomes
Coached Cam Ward at Incarnate Word and Wash St
Landed John Mateer as Wash St OC
Has UNT 1 AAC Champ game from playing in CFP.
Could bring most of his roster with him, an upgrade over our current roster.
He's 40, so he;s hungry for success- he could be the next young hot coach, or more likely he could be a bust, but I'd be watching and cheering.
Give me Morris or Golesh over the other two on Thamel's list
Thanks. :thumb_up:
Would love to get Morris, assumed it isn't him based on everyone saying announcement is imminent
I usually love a good coaching search but just haven't gotten into it this time around. I guess it's bittersweet because part of me wants to see Petrino get the gig and the other part of me knows the old guy just doesn't have it anymore. I'd still take him as the OC in a heartbeat.
This time a lot of the names we've heard all sound like bullshit. Except for like the Northwestern guy which personally I wouldn't be mad at getting the job. I feel like there's enough decent candidates that we should be in a good position to get better if the backing is there. We'll know a lot more about the backing once we trot out Dowell Loggains or some spawn of Chad the new hire...
north texass, tulane, and jmu all have a shot at the playoffs. you can count those coaches out IF (big if) there's really any decision coming in the next couple of days.
if it's a g5 guy, i think golesh is the most likely.
Lane to Arkansas
https://x.com/JoshPateCFB/status/1992645344841347554?s=20
Quote from: TC on Nov 23, 2025, 01:12 PM1982? 48 hours?
Everyone is so cryptic until it's mentioned, then it'll be, "well I knew late last week but didn't want to burn my sources."
Nothing turns grown men into a bunch of goober smacking faggots like a coaching search. I hate this shit.
Yep. No one knows shit and those that do ain't talking.
I have gotten to the point of not caring who we get. I don't think it will matter for at least a couple of years, IF the coach is worth a shit. If not, we do this again soon.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 23, 2025, 02:15 PMYep. No one knows shit and those that do ain't talking.
yep. marcello now says there will be "clarity" in 48 hours. these guys are just feeding the algorithms and getting clicks or views.
still think it's after the missouri game before an actual announcement.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 23, 2025, 02:16 PMI have gotten to the point of not caring who we get. I don't think it will matter for at least a couple of years, IF the coach is worth a shit. If not, we do this again soon.
Me either. Especially if there isn't significant change in NIL. By significant I mean almost double.
https://x.com/rickybaw/status/1992672998109684021?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/rickybaw/status/1992672998109684021?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
I guess Rick B is back on board. I thought he'd checked out for the season.
"You will suck the athletic department's cock or you are a terrible person." We could hire Danny Nutt and Rick would find a way to be ecstatic about it.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 23, 2025, 02:39 PMI guess Rick B is back on board. I thought he'd checked out for the season.
What's he pissed about? Did only 10 people show up to a volleyball game or something?
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1992674626103922935
Now this. They're all clowns.
https://x.com/KPScott007/status/1992697866058682845?t=WllN_i6QYeTdux8vjYBSfA&s=19 (https://x.com/KPScott007/status/1992697866058682845?t=WllN_i6QYeTdux8vjYBSfA&s=19)
Well I didn't want to say something but I talked to somebody and they said for sure we're going to make a hire before Dec 31st, 2025. I could be anytime...my source is rock solid on this. I don't want to name names here...that's somebodies son out there. Please respect the process.
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 03:30 PMWell I didn't want to say something but I talked to somebody and they said for sure we're going to make a hire before Dec 31st, 2025. I could be anytime...my source is rock solid on this. I don't want to name names here...that's somebodies son out there. Please respect the process.
If you can't bring any specifics, don't say anything at all, you fucking posing clown.
Playing my role.
so is today officially "insane" yet?
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 03:30 PMWell I didn't want to say something but I talked to somebody and they said for sure we're going to make a hire before Dec 31st, 2025. I could be anytime...my source is rock solid on this. I don't want to name names here...that's somebodies son out there. Please respect the process.
Just show us her tits already.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg)
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 03:43 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg)
Looks like Pittman is taking getting canned harder than I thought.
Those dogs will not hunt.
Quote from: animal on Nov 23, 2025, 03:43 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdN6ztV/81393d93ec30340dbc4018835077bc87.jpg)
Me and my big mouth.
I was a happier person back before that was posted
Is Kane Wommack's name being heard much, or at all?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 23, 2025, 03:48 PMLooks like Pittman is taking getting canned harder than I thought.
Well played.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 23, 2025, 03:50 PMThose dogs will not hunt.
Looks like those dogs have hunted plenty 'nuff.
Quote from: Gambler on Nov 23, 2025, 04:05 PMIs Kane Wommack's name being heard much, or at all?
Here's you some Wommack along with the other usual suspects.
https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/11/23/the-day-after-the-end-is-nigh/
Reporters pulling shit out of thin air and then getting pissy when you call them retarded, Rick B challenging other fans to feats of strength, skanks posting their boobs online. I love a good Arkansas Football coaching search.
Quote from: razor5396 on Nov 23, 2025, 04:20 PMReporters pulling shit out of thin air and then getting pissy when you call them retarded, Rick B challenging other fans to feats of strength, skanks posting their boobs online. I love a good Arkansas Football coaching search.
All examples of why we don't deserve nice things
You think they'll fit?
I saw that Rick B post...man the backlash responses lolz.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 23, 2025, 04:41 PMI saw that Rick B post...man the backlash responses lolz.
Damn! Somehow I missed the fireworks between him and that girl. Looks like that was in May?
He's getting eaten alive in the comments.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 23, 2025, 04:12 PMLooks like those dogs have hunted plenty 'nuff.
They look like they're tracking an escaped convict right now.
Quote from: TC on Nov 23, 2025, 05:15 PMDamn! Somehow I missed the fireworks between him and that girl. Looks like that was in May?
He's getting eaten alive in the comments.
that was from a while back but it all got brought up back in May in twitters. From what Rick B says that post is all bullshit and they were in the wrong
Would love Kane Wommack as HC and overseeing a rebuilt defense. Keep Bobby as OC and that's a recipe
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 23, 2025, 06:29 PMWould love Kane Wommack as HC and overseeing a rebuilt defense. Keep Bobby as OC and that's a recipe
I don't love it, but if we're being honest with ourselves , we're probably shopping in that neighborhood. We surely are bout to be the team with the most 2 wins or less seasons over the past 10 years in the sec.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 23, 2025, 06:59 PMI don't love it, but if we're being honest with ourselves , we're probably shopping in that neighborhood. We surely are bout to be the team with the most 2 wins or less seasons over the past 10 years in the sec.
I'll revise that to say someone like Kane. A defensive minded coach who can bring in (or retain) a top shelf OC
I don't know who our coach will be, but skill wise, a track record of turning scrubs into a team that plays above their pay grade like they're actors in a 1990s kids football movie is a must.
Our cupboard will be bare next year. We need to hire Rick Moranis to coach us up like he's coaching against Al Bundy.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 23, 2025, 07:07 PMI'll revise that to say someone like Kane. A defensive minded coach who can bring in (or retain) a top shelf OC
If you're going with someone like a Kane, you might as well go with Kane. At least he has some ties and decent pedigree.
Memphis, who has beaten several SEC teams, including us, through the years, seems to get players that other SEC teams either pass on or let go, and they do pretty well. Why couldn't we do that? Coaching? Players being better than they appear?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 23, 2025, 07:22 PMMemphis, who has beaten several SEC teams, including us, through the years, seems to get players that other SEC teams either pass on or let go, and they do pretty well. Why couldn't we do that? Coaching? Players being better than they appear?
My guess would be proximity to more talent.
https://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1992679141297279162
Amen
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 23, 2025, 07:58 PMhttps://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1992679141297279162
Amen
#1-0
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 23, 2025, 07:58 PMhttps://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1992679141297279162
Amen
Just win, baby!? 😂
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 23, 2025, 08:04 PMWe almost always win!
Almost always almost win is the official joke of Arkansas athletics.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 23, 2025, 08:21 PMAlmost always almost win is the official joke of Arkansas athletics.
Not a joke if it's true.
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we almost won the 1st half yesterday, does that count?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 23, 2025, 08:22 PMNot a joke if it's true.
most good jokes are almost always almost true.
We need the blonde chick from Best of the Best to come in and give her "Winning isn't a sometimes thing...it's an all the time thing"
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 23, 2025, 07:58 PMhttps://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1992679141297279162
Amen
We didn't come to paint.
Turbo Buffalo
We're #2!
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 23, 2025, 08:59 PMWe didn't come to paint.
Turbo Buffalo
GO FUCK YOURSELF!
Our own media are eating each other.
https://x.com/TheHawgTalk/status/1992800746644074815?t=AgPcbwB4IWGngK8fI5h-3w&s=19 (https://x.com/TheHawgTalk/status/1992800746644074815?t=AgPcbwB4IWGngK8fI5h-3w&s=19)
Twitter makes everyone into a high school attention whore.
All the "I know a secret but I'm not telling!" posts are just so embarrassing.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 23, 2025, 12:40 PMhttps://x.com/bmarcello/status/1992660918610661412?s=20
We have a coach. No clue who though. ;D
It's Deon.
https://x.com/brettvito/status/1992642298501591297?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 23, 2025, 11:09 PMTwitter makes everyone into a high school attention whore.
All the "I know a secret but I'm not telling!" posts are just so embarrassing.
"I know who the next coach is, but my Iphone broke..so sorry. Hogville buy me new one?"
He had a new one the next day.
God blessed me with a lot, but we have a running joke about my Hogs.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 23, 2025, 05:34 PMthat was from a while back but it all got brought up back in May in twitters. From what Rick B says that post is all bullshit and they were in the wrong
Looks like it all got brought back up today.
Obviously I don't know the whole back story, but that's not a good look for "Our Biggest Fan." No one comes close to him in attendances, and across multiple sports.
He picked the wrong hill to die on there, and his absence around here now makes more sense.
Sometimes you just have to own getting out in front of your skis a bit, and take the hit.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 23, 2025, 10:55 PMOur own media are eating each other.
Eat each other? Where's Tera
Those media guys have to be starving to death.
https://x.com/soundoff13/status/1992821836887831008?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/soundoff13/status/1992821836887831008?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Quote from: HTL on Nov 24, 2025, 07:21 AMhttps://x.com/soundoff13/status/1992821836887831008?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/soundoff13/status/1992821836887831008?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Meh.
Lake Village and fucking Helena are better than anything the state of Iowa has to offer. He probably wants to leave just to get away from those weirdos.
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1992966025717973020?s=61&t=kTsIES2cEX9HUwG8AE0q0Q
Duckman says today is the day. That means it won't happen today, right?
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 24, 2025, 08:48 AMhttps://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1992966025717973020?s=61&t=kTsIES2cEX9HUwG8AE0q0Q
Duckman says today is the day. That means it won't happen today, right?
Well, things could change.
Remember how yesterday was supposed to be insane, and then nothing happened?
Only thing happening today from Duck's perspective will be that wife of his getting nutted in by Jamal from 7-Eleven.
"watch for leaks". don't know when but arkansas will hire a coach. groundbreaking shit right there.
this guy knows nothing. i get the feeling he met a drunk john daly once who told him his best friend gruden would love to coach at arkansas and he's been running with it ever since.
These people like Duckman and even Nabors soud like Q-Anon followers who think that nobody else reads the shit as if they have some 'source.' They don't want to 'give it away' and forego the only thing in their lives that they've ever really believed that they were experts in.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 24, 2025, 08:56 AMRemember how yesterday was supposed to be insane, and then nothing happened?
Only thing happening today from Duck's perspective will be that wife of his getting nutted in by Jamal from 7-Eleven.
I see she has two bad knees.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 24, 2025, 08:56 AM"watch for leaks". don't know when but arkansas will hire a coach. groundbreaking shit right there.
this guy knows nothing. i get the feeling he met a drunk john daly once who told him his best friend gruden would love to coach at arkansas and he's been running with it ever since.
Daly probably still laughs about that time he told a random guy that Gruden wanted to come to Arkansas but only if a fan would post his wife's tits on the internet.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 24, 2025, 09:05 AMDaly probably still laughs about that time he told a random guy that Gruden wanted to come to Arkansas but only if a fan would post his wife's tits on the internet.
The art of the deal.
Grit says Golesh had no interest.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 24, 2025, 09:00 AMThese people like Duckman and even Nabors soud like Q-Anon followers who think that nobody else reads the shit as if they have some 'source.' They don't want to 'give it away' and forego the only thing in their lives that they've ever really believed that they were experts in.
duckman now says it's today leaks coming. Why again did this fucktard get banned from Hogville?
It's like every random person on Twitter is now an expert on who's coming to arkansas.
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1992764826620506591?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
And why the fuck did he tag Asa Hutchinson in his own reply
I sure as hell hope the search is going better than those covering it.
Watching Ozzy Maverick videos make Grit loom like a genus.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Nov 24, 2025, 10:14 AMWatching Ozzy Maverick videos make Grit loom like a genus.
The combined IQ of those two might not hit double digits.
Football scoop says coach will be announced in a week so it's a sitting head coach. I bet there's a leak immediately after the Mizzou game concludes.
So Gruden's out :maundoed:
I think this is what most expected all along. At least I did.
Saying a coach will be announced after the regular season ends isn't exactly super secret Woopig insider info
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 24, 2025, 11:56 AMSaying a coach will be announced after the regular season ends isn't exactly super secret Woopig insider info
Please don't give away Woopig Inside-Her information like that. Keep it on the secret pay board.
:D
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 24, 2025, 11:44 AMSo Gruden's out :maundoed:
I think this is what most expected all along. At least I did.
duckman says it's still gruden. He's full of shit
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 24, 2025, 01:07 PMduckman says it's still gruden. He's full of shit
It'll be Jay Gruden and we'll be told it's a daring out of left field hire. And to send money 💰
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 23, 2025, 05:24 PMThey look like they're tracking an escaped convict right now.
The wit of this should have been noted. :beer:
It will be a man, over 35, likely white. Keep This here. Secret info
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 24, 2025, 08:56 AMRemember how yesterday was supposed to be insane, and then nothing happened?
Maybe it was insane and something big happened but its just not public yet. Trust the twitters.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 24, 2025, 04:44 PMIt will be a man, over 35, likely white. Keep This here. Secret info
I'm literally shocked Mike Gundy's name hasn't surfaced. I'm mentioning it now to help channel that shit somewhere else because it's never anyone that's been mentioned. We're all convinced it's somebody still coaching...imagine our disappointment when it's going to be somebody that could have been hired weeks earlier.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 23, 2025, 11:34 PMhttps://x.com/brettvito/status/1992642298501591297?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
UNT doesn't have the means to retain Morris. If they keep him it's because he wants more time to take a bigger step up.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 24, 2025, 06:22 PMUNT doesn't have the means to retain Morris. If they keep him it's because he wants more time to take a bigger step up.
Oh I agree, they seem to think he's going to Stillwater.
Quote from: animal on Nov 24, 2025, 05:51 PMI'm literally shocked Mike Gundy's name hasn't surfaced. I'm mentioning it now to help channel that shit somewhere else because it's never anyone that's been mentioned. We're all convinced it's somebody still coaching...imagine our disappointment when it's going to be somebody that could have been hired weeks earlier.
We can and probably will do way worse than Gundy.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 24, 2025, 07:04 PMWe can and probably will do way worse than Gundy.
We will do worse than Art Briles.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 24, 2025, 07:04 PMWe can and probably will do way worse than Gundy.
We. Are. Arkansas.
Hold my beer.
Iowa State beats OSU and that'll be an 8 seed in regular season for Campbell.
There is NFW we end up with Campbell and anyone comparable.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 25, 2025, 10:06 AMThere is NFW we end up with Campbell and anyone comparable.
We're going the G5 route.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 25, 2025, 10:29 AMWe're going the G5 route.
It will be Wommack if we're lucky. I'm not ruling out Barry Lunney Jr.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 25, 2025, 10:36 AMIt will be Wommack if we're lucky. I'm not ruling out Barry Lunney Jr.
I hope you're wrong about Lunney.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 25, 2025, 10:36 AMIt will be Wommack if we're lucky. I'm not ruling out Barry Lunney Jr.
I think you are smart to not rule out Barry Lunney Jr. Unfortunately I can see that happening.
The OC of a 7-4 team that's 11th in the B1G
i'm surprised we haven't heard that dowell loggains was interviewed. that would be par for this fucking course.
Don't misunderstand, I don't want him either. We've just been down this road too many times before to expect anything different/better.
Well, we haven't heard from former players on who is the nicest guy after BLS, so it is still wide open.
We are just so beaten down as a fan base right now. No one has even the slightest bit of optimism.
Sarah Sanders is working hard behind the scenes to broker a deal for OBU coach Todd Knight.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 25, 2025, 11:47 AMWe are just so beaten down as a fan base right now. No one has even the slightest bit of optimism.
I am optimistic we win this last one so my 3 win preseason prediction proves correct.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 25, 2025, 07:49 AMWe will do worse than Art Briles.
It's a real shame the Briles and Petrino legacy did not do well beyond their ball sack.
Quote from: animal on Nov 25, 2025, 12:03 PMIt's a real shame the Briles and Petrino legacy did not do well beyond their ball sack.
they are 50% their momma. maybe they married down in intelligence.
https://x.com/texhogs/status/1993096130930807014?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 25, 2025, 12:35 PMhttps://x.com/texhogs/status/1993096130930807014?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
I'm not buying it. Not until Duckman says it's real.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 25, 2025, 11:47 AMWe are just so beaten down as a fan base right now. No one has even the slightest bit of optimism.
Yep. I'm prepared to be underwhelmed.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 25, 2025, 12:35 PMhttps://x.com/texhogs/status/1993096130930807014?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Too late. We have already had that coaching staff.
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They have years of leftover red shoe polish in the FBAC supply closet
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 25, 2025, 12:51 PMI'm not buying it. Not until Donald Duckman says it's real.
FIFO
Daisy Duck's tits are safe...for now.
I'm just shocked Coach Cone hasn't chimed in on this search.
Quote from: animal on Nov 25, 2025, 03:30 PMI'm just shocked Coach Cone hasn't chimed in on this search.
you rang?
coach.jpg
David Lee has interviewed.
Eric Morris to Oklahoma State.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1993430072854749595
personally that dude scared me. i had no faith the air raid would work in the sec.
Would have rather had him than Silverfield.
Another swing and a miss...
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 03:41 PMDavid Lee has interviewed.
He bring a ladder?
if there was any interest between both parties, i seriously doubt we were going to wait around and see when the guy's season was over.
probably going to stillwater the whole time.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 03:41 PMDavid Lee has interviewed.
lol.
What's Dan Enos up to?
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 25, 2025, 03:59 PMif there was any interest between both parties, i seriously doubt we were going to wait around and see when the guy's season was over.
probably going to stillwater the whole time.
lol
Yeah, probably.
Probably going to be Kane Wommack.
I'm fine with that as long as we spend on a roster. Think he will bring a better staff than Morris would have. May even keep Bobby around to call plays.
We had an OL from Georgia who had decommitted from us recommit today. That tells me at the very least Mateos is probably staying. He's done a good job so I hope he does.
Alex Wood has let Arkansas brass know he's very interested.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 25, 2025, 03:56 PMAnother swing and a miss...
Doubtful. Think he would have taken our job over OSU.
We're gonna end up with Kane Wommack. Gut feeling
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 25, 2025, 04:02 PMProbably going to be Kane Wommack.
I'm fine with that as long as we spend on a roster. Think he will bring a better staff than Morris would have. May even keep Bobby around to call plays.
We had an OL from Georgia who had decommitted from us recommit today. That tells me at the very least Mateos is probably staying. He's done a good job so I hope he does.
I'd rather have him than the small school head coaches and pray we catch Lanning or Smart lightning in a bottle.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 04:03 PMI'd rather have him than the small school head coaches and pray we catch Lanning or Smart lightning in a bottle.
He's already been a small school head coach and did well. Best of both worlds with successful HC experience and top level coordinator role.
If it's Wommack, this doesn't give me the feeling that we are committing to changing the perception of our football program. Feels like another turnstile.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 25, 2025, 04:01 PMlol
Yeah, probably.
whoever it is, you were going to talk shit anyways.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 25, 2025, 04:08 PMIf it's Wommack, this doesn't give me the feeling that we are committing to changing the perception of our football program. Feels like another turnstile.
Depends on staff and player budgets.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 04:13 PMDepends on staff and player budgets.
Yeah, I'll hold of reservations. I would be surprised if this will trigger a significant amount more in NIL though.
Really wish we could pull in Campbell or Dillingham.
Better yet, invest in BP. I still think giving him a competitive roster is our best option.
Wommack is a young up and coming head coach that may or may not be worth a warm piss. That all being said it's another instance of hiring a guy that'll need a little OJT. I imagine he followed his dad around to a lot of places and he's probably very well versed on the SEC in terms of recruiting areas and so forth. It would be a hire that won't exactly inspire confidence but it could be that it pays off in a few years.
I'm not convinced Petrino is sticking around to wipe noses but maybe he will.
maybe this was some of the clarity thamel said would happen a couple of days ago.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 25, 2025, 04:08 PMIf it's Wommack, this doesn't give me the feeling that we are committing to changing the perception of our football program. Feels like another turnstile.
Totally disagree. He's been a successful head coach and he's been in the bama machine. Knows how a real operation runs. I'd be good with Kane edpecially if he comes now.
Still hoping for Campbell or Dilly.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 25, 2025, 03:56 PMAnother swing and a miss...
No way he took OSU over us. He wasn't getting the gig and moved on. Had bmfp won a few I think he would have been their choice had he not been picked here.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 04:26 PMStill hoping for Campbell or Dilly.
Dilly Dilly!
Quote from: HTL on Nov 25, 2025, 04:26 PMStill hoping for Campbell or Dilly.
does dilly come with light beer?
I have assumed all along that no incoming coach would retain Petrino, nor would he be interested in staying. Am I crazy to think that a Wommack hire might be the lone exception? That's about the only way I'd be excited about hiring him. I would assume it would help the financial support.
Petrino's kid is up at Mo St, right? I know some of his kids live in the area. He may want to stay close to family if he stays in coaching.
I love our coaching searches
https://x.com/OtisKirk23/status/1993467714216857939?s=20
grit knows, lol.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 25, 2025, 06:05 PMI have assumed all along that no incoming coach would retain Petrino, nor would he be interested in staying. Am I crazy to think that a Wommack hire might be the lone exception? That's about the only way I'd be excited about hiring him. I would assume it would help the financial support.
I agree with this.
It'd be tough to imagine Bobby even agreeing to stay as OC after getting passed up as HC, but who knows. If we hire a defensive coach like Kane and he lets his OC just run the show, that might be a great pairing.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 25, 2025, 07:11 PMgrit knows, lol.
Of course duckman is saying that guarantees it's Gruden since our plane was in Tampa lol.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 25, 2025, 04:00 PMlol.
What's Dan Enos up to?
Probably about the 30 yard line.
The bad news is that it's 3rd and 17.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 25, 2025, 07:38 PMProbably about the 30 yard line.
The bad news is that it's 3rd and 17.
This is good.
Wommack received a considerable raise to go to Alabama from being the head coach at South Alabama. If he was just looking for more money then I guess that's a good reason.
However, there are leaders and there are followers. Though not unprecedented, it seems odd to me that a coach would take a hierarchy step down from head coach to coordinator. Then again perhaps he felt that being the Alabama DC positioned himself better to attain a P4 head coaching job than staying at SA.
Irregardless, hire Bobby.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 25, 2025, 07:49 PMWommack received a considerable raise to go to Alabama from being the head coach at South Alabama. If he was just looking for more money then I guess that's a good reason.
However, there are leaders and there are followers. Though not unprecedented, it seems odd to me that a coach would take a hierarchy step down from head coach to coordinator. Then again perhaps he felt that being the Alabama DC positioned himself better to attain a P4 head coaching job than staying at SA.
Irregardless, hire Bobby.
I mean, his high school years were in Fayetteville. That may not impact everyone, maybe it did for Kane.
Who was the player? Hint... it's not hard to figure out.
https://x.com/Switzer1k/status/1993423111564542255?s=20
Can we just get an endorsement from the volleyball team already?
"thrown into the role"? he wasn't asked?
I'm calling it. It's BMFP.
Quote from: Zoso on Nov 25, 2025, 10:28 PMI'm calling it. It's BMFP.
I wish, but we all know we will make the worst decision possible.
Oooof
https://x.com/cfbreport/status/1993490272798621945?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Can we just shut down the whole athletic department?
Sorry Calipari, sorry DVH, sorry whoever will lead the track program next.
But football is screwing this up for everyone.
Quote from: obijuana on Nov 25, 2025, 07:49 PMWommack received a considerable raise to go to Alabama from being the head coach at South Alabama. If he was just looking for more money then I guess that's a good reason.
However, there are leaders and there are followers. Though not unprecedented, it seems odd to me that a coach would take a hierarchy step down from head coach to coordinator. Then again perhaps he felt that being the Alabama DC positioned himself better to attain a P4 head coaching job than staying at SA.
Irregardless, hire Bobby.
I thing you are grasping for negatives. Folks are often leaving a higher level gig in a smaller pond to take a lesser position at a bigger one. I've hired a lot of exec talent thru the years and I had no issue with candidates that grew their careers in that manner. It usually entails a salary cut. Do you have a problem with high school head coaches becoming college assistants to start down that path? They don't really have a track of hs hc to college hc. You gotta make your bones.
Bobby has shown that DCs can make a few adjustments at halftime and shut his offense down. He's old news, and it's time to go. The team has been sloppy, with a horrific turnover ratio and a shitton of penalties. He has made some plain dumb coaching decisions in game managed and sticking with green. Clean house:
In today's ADG Wally writes that the coaching search is down to Eric Morris, Alex Golesh, Ryan Silverfield, and Kane Wommack. On the second page there's an article about Morris being hired by Oklahoma State. The ADG is in its death throes.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 26, 2025, 06:32 AMIn today's ADG Wally writes that the coaching search is down to Eric Morris, Alex Golesh, Ryan Silverfield, and Kane Wommack. On the second page there's an article about Morris being hired by Oklahoma State. The ADG is in its death throes.
There's just not a justification for a non electronic paper to even exist. It's a waste to the environment.
I get that some people still love to flip thru pages but is it cost beneficial? PROBABLY NOT
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 26, 2025, 05:29 AMI thing you are grasping for negatives. Folks are often leaving a higher level gig in a smaller pond to take a lesser position at a bigger one. I've hired a lot of exec talent thru the years and I had no issue with candidates that grew their careers in that manner. It usually entails a salary cut. Do you have a problem with high school head coaches becoming college assistants to start down that path? They don't really have a track of hs hc to college hc. You gotta make your bones.
Bobby has shown that DCs can make a few adjustments at halftime and shut his offense down. He's old news, and it's time to go. The team has been sloppy, with a horrific turnover ratio and a shitton of penalties. He has made some plain dumb coaching decisions in game managed and sticking with green. Clean house:
Bro, we are 5th in the conference in scoring, just behind Ole Miss. The 4 teams ahead of us are all ranked in the top 20. That is OVERALL scoring. If you look at just SEC games, we are SECOND in the fucking conference in scoring, behind only Tennessee and the big difference is we didn't get to play against Arkansas' defense while many teams did... When you are second in scoring in conference games, you aren't losing because your OC is washed, bro.
The reason we are so shitty is because our defense is dead fucking last in the conference in giving up points and it isn't even close, like, we give up almost a full TD more than the second worst team, Mississippi State overall.
As for Penalties,
TN 1-10
TAMU 9-71
Aub 3-12
MSU 18-193LSU 6-55
Tex 9-65
In all those games we had either fewer penalty yards or about even with the other team except for possibly the worst referee fucking in the history of Arkansas football. We are 12th in Penalties, but if you look and if that MSU game was even CLOSE to our average, we are up around 4th or 5th in penalties. Our ranking is based almost completely on one game. We have 683 total penalty yards on the year. 193 in one game.
Turnovers, yep, I'll give you that and I think that goes back to the summer/fall with conditioning and contact (lack thereof) and overall mindset.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 26, 2025, 06:32 AMIn today's ADG Wally writes that the coaching search is down to Eric Morris, Alex Golesh, Ryan Silverfield, and Kane Wommack. On the second page there's an article about Morris being hired by Oklahoma State. The ADG is in its death throes.
The elf is as late as he is short.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47099743/sources-north-texas-eric-morris-next-coach-oklahoma-state (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47099743/sources-north-texas-eric-morris-next-coach-oklahoma-state)
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 26, 2025, 06:32 AMIn today's ADG Wally writes that the coaching search is down to Eric Morris, Alex Golesh, Ryan Silverfield, and Kane Wommack. On the second page there's an article about Morris being hired by Oklahoma State. The ADG is in its death throes.
The ADG sports editor is just lazy.
Oh wait, that's Wally.
If we increased our NIL to get around 8th in the SEC, I believe BP would win big. He has the 8th highest win pct for active coaches for a guy whose best schools are us and Louisville. The knock on him is recruiting. NIL replaces most of that fear. The years he's been most successful, he's had competitive talent.
Are we really saying that if we plan to be more competitive with NIL and the football administration as a whole, that the list of candidates are a better option than Petrino? I don't see it.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 26, 2025, 12:30 AMOooof
https://x.com/cfbreport/status/1993490272798621945?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Go back to using computers if this is the joke we (college football fans in general) have to deal with.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 07:48 AMGo back to using computers if this is the joke we (college football fans in general) have to deal with.
Can we replace him with an AI AD?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 26, 2025, 12:30 AMOooof
https://x.com/cfbreport/status/1993490272798621945?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOSWPFONEIU&t=56s
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 26, 2025, 05:29 AMI thing you are grasping for negatives. Folks are often leaving a higher level gig in a smaller pond to take a lesser position at a bigger one. I've hired a lot of exec talent thru the years and I had no issue with candidates that grew their careers in that manner. It usually entails a salary cut. Do you have a problem with high school head coaches becoming college assistants to start down that path? They don't really have a track of hs hc to college hc. You gotta make your bones.
Bobby has shown that DCs can make a few adjustments at halftime and shut his offense down. He's old news, and it's time to go. The team has been sloppy, with a horrific turnover ratio and a shitton of penalties. He has made some plain dumb coaching decisions in game managed and sticking with green. Clean house:
our 2nd half offensive performances have been abysmal all season. it doesn't jive with bobby's "offensive genius play caller" reputation.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 26, 2025, 08:09 AMour 2nd half offensive performances have been abysmal all season. it doesn't jive with bobby's "offensive genius play caller" reputation.
I don't think you can blame that all on BP. Players failing to execute has been a part of the problem. How many times did Carmona whiff on a block, how many bad reads did Green make, RBs fumbling, WR running the route incorrectly...
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 26, 2025, 08:24 AMI don't think you can blame that all on BP. Players failing to execute has been a part of the problem. How many times did Carmona whiff on a block, how many bad reads did Green make...
true. the quit and don't give a fucks on this team is quite strong.
I think a lot of the second half problems are teams figuring out that Green will almost NEVER pull the trigger on the deep route and will always take the safety valve or take off running. So you put a spy on him and sell out on the short stuff and you can stop our offense with him.
Remember how much we went deep with Mallett and Wilson? I do. We hit several deep shots a game and took several more. Green never does that despite us all sitting in the stands and seeing guys break open deep.
Please little baby Jesus let it be Campbell. He's the only rumored I could see coming in and breaking the soft ass culture.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 07:27 AMIf we increased our NIL to get around 8th in the SEC, I believe BP would win big. He has the 8th highest win pct for active coaches for a guy whose best schools are us and Louisville. The knock on him is recruiting. NIL replaces most of that fear. The years he's been most successful, he's had competitive talent.
Are we really saying that if we plan to be more competitive with NIL and the football administration as a whole, that the list of candidates are a better option than Petrino? I don't see it.
I'm right there with you. Just wish he had a shot with a decent roster.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 26, 2025, 08:09 AMour 2nd half offensive performances have been abysmal all season. it doesn't jive with bobby's "offensive genius play caller" reputation.
And yet we are second in scoring in SEC games this season. Must be a LOT of teams having first and second half scoring issues...
https://x.com/treyschaap/status/1993702574189433300?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 26, 2025, 09:32 AMhttps://x.com/treyschaap/status/1993702574189433300?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Lmao. Can't wait to see what Grit says
Might be an OK hire as long as we never play Navy...
don't hate it, but that's not a guy you would think to be the one breaking it.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 09:42 AMMight be an OK hire as long as we never play Navy...
zing!
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 09:44 AMdon't hate it, but that's not a guy you would think to be the one breaking it.zing!
That record looks a little Chad Morris-ish.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 09:45 AMThat record looks a little Chad Morris-ish.
he's a good coach. both florida and lsu had him as a backup.
again, i'll wait for a national guy to confirm this.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 09:48 AMhe's a good coach. both florida and lsu had him as a backup.
again, i'll wait for a national guy to confirm this.
22-15. He'll either do better than expected or be a Chad Morris. No in between.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 09:55 AM22-15. He'll either do better than expected or be a Chad Morris. No in between.
This. Bobby Petrino is on the sidelines and as a fanbase we're supposed to get excited about a list of possible coaches with 600 records and no SEC experience.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 10:01 AMThis. Bobby Petrino is on the sidelines and as a fanbase we're supposed to get excited about a list of possible coaches with 600 records and no SEC experience.
I'll give him a chance and hope we catch lightning in a bottle.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 10:02 AMI'll give him a chance and hope we catch lightning in a bottle.
I mean I'd prefer him over Morris at least
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 09:48 AMhe's a good coach. both florida and lsu had him as a backup.
again, i'll wait for a national guy to confirm this.
Check with Duckman.
really think chesney is the guy we should have gone after
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 09:39 AMLmao. Can't wait to see what Grit says
Otis just said on X:
"If Golesh is the coach then something changed from Sunday. Maybe he found out not getting the Ole Miss job. I do know he turned down the interview here. If something changed since Sunday so be it."
I'm underwhelmed.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 26, 2025, 10:11 AMOtis just said on X:
"If Golesh is the coach then something changed from Sunday. Maybe he found out not getting the Ole Miss job. I do know he turned down the interview here. If something changed since Sunday so be it."
Lol. Not getting the Ole Miss job that's not even open. There's no fucking way he would've ever turned down an interview.
usf won 8 games in the four seasons before he became the coach. it's not like he walked into a good program, so looking at just his record doesn't tell the whole story.
it's all going to come down to if the guy gets the money to build a team anyway. (if it's really him)
Who the hell is Trey Schapp?
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 10:17 AMusf won 8 games in the four seasons before he became the coach. it's not like he walked into a good program, so looking at just his record doesn't tell the whole story.
it's all going to come down to if the guy gets the money to build a team anyway. (if it's really him)
1-8 against conference opponents with a winning record.
Didn't duckman say we were getting gundy?
Has anyone other than some goober on the Buzz reported this?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 26, 2025, 10:20 AMWho the hell is Trey Schapp?
Little Rock guy, not sure exactly who his employer is. I've played golf with him over the years. I'm not sure if his sources are good or not. I guess we'll find out soon.
I didn't realize Golesh was actually born in Russia and I didn't know about the Matt Campbell connection. Makes me wonder if the Campbell rumors aren't true.
Might be another Gus and Morris situation. I'm not taking this job but you should go after Golesh.
I definitely liked Golesh when he was our OC. He did a great job with Hendon Hooker and the offense.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 10:30 AMHas anyone other than some goober on the Buzz reported this?
Melinda Mayo is repeating the story. I know she is a meteorologist, but her connections through Channel 7 may know something
They speak NIL in Russia?
he should buy a russian bore piglet if he really is the guy. how cool would it be coach has his own razorback mascot as a pet. i don't know why i thought of that. might be by "anti-anxiety medication".
Quote from: SnowManSlayer on Nov 26, 2025, 10:34 AMThey speak NIL in Russia?
you remember the exchange rate scene in eurotrip? dollars to rubles baby! most of the players you're talking to don't realize that 800,000,000 rubles is like $80,000.
Quote from: mr.zorak on Nov 26, 2025, 10:33 AMI definitely liked Golesh when he was our OC. He did a great job with Hendon Hooker and the offense.
How much of that was your HC, though?
I'm always skeptical about a coordinator who works for a guru on the same side of the ball.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 26, 2025, 10:32 AMI didn't realize Golesh was actually born in Russia and I didn't know about the Matt Campbell connection. Makes me wonder if the Campbell rumors aren't true.
Might be another Gus and Morris situation. I'm not taking this job but you should go after Golesh.
You should love Golesh then.
Hope I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like a guy that will drum up major NIL support.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 10:47 AMHope I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like a guy that will drum up major NIL support.
I think if we were going to have a big NIL surge of support we would have landed someone like Franklin. I think HY was told at the outset that the money wasn't going to be there like it is for bball, so he set his sights on securing an up and comer.
I would have preferred a defensive minded coach who retained Petrino, but maybe Bobby wasn't interested in staying after this year.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 10:47 AMHope I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like a guy that will drum up major NIL support.
Get ready for that sweet Russian oligarch money.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 26, 2025, 10:56 AMGet ready for that sweet Russian oligarch money.
He seems Russian Jewish heritage. Lurk already hates the guy.
If we are hiring an up-and-comer then Chesney is the answer.
I'd give my left nut to be wrong about this, but if it's Golesh we will be doing this again in 5 years.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 10:38 AMHow much of that was your HC, though?
I'm always skeptical about a coordinator who works for a guru on the same side of the ball.
That's a good question.
Heupel and he were pretty much in step that year. After golesh left however our offense, in my opinion, took a step back. We quit going downfield and Heupel called most of the plays, preferring those damned hitch passes and the "explosive " ones were a lot less. It may have been due to the personnel (Hooker to Milton) but it was frustrating.
Quote from: SnowManSlayer on Nov 26, 2025, 10:34 AMThey speak NIL in Russia?
What? Say what one more time MFer!
All joking aside, losing to Navy two years in a row isn't really something you want to see out of your head coach...
Can't wait for Smirnoff Field at Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium.
Once again, nobody knows shit. Names are being thrown out there so that when we decide, someone who posted about 15 names can say they were right!
well it's been over an hour and crickets.
BP knows it's not him
https://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1993725694472511654
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 11:06 AMwell it's been over an hour and crickets.
Biddy commented on Schaap's post. I wouldn't think he'd comment if there weren't some validity to it. Schaap is around enough of the right LR people that somebody may have tipped him off.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 26, 2025, 10:56 AMGet ready for that sweet Russian oligarch money.
I'm listening...
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:01 AMCan't wait for Smirnoff Field at Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium.
Rosneft Stadium.
This is a good hire if true. One of the top g5 coaches out there this year. Summrall likely to Auburn and Chesney to penn st are probably both better but so are their programs. If we did not get at least one of those or morris, would have preferred to stay with Petrino.
I'm never washing my BMFP t-shirt again.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 26, 2025, 11:14 AMThis is a good hire if true. One of the top g5 coaches out there this year. Summrall likely to Auburn and Chesney to penn st are probably both better but so are their programs. If we did not get at least one of those or morris, would have preferred to stay with Petrino.
Golesh will immediately leave for OM when Lane signs with LSU. We'll end up with a D-II coach.
Locker room is saying Golesh
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 26, 2025, 11:09 AMBP knows it's not him
https://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1993725694472511654
Well. Shit.
Golesh doesn't overwhelm me but he doesn't underwhelm me either. He's just one more piece of proof that we're not a serious program and never considered actually trying to hire an experienced coach.
If USF hadn't upset what turned out to be a crappy Florida team would we even know who he is?
Just sent $1,000 to the Collective. Let's go get that LT from Hardy.
supposedly petrino was told during the bye week after the state game they were going to hire someone else.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:18 AMJust sent $1,000 to the Collective. Let's go get that LT from Hardy.
Should have just thrown that $1,000 out the window as you were driving down the highway. Kind of like going to the casinos. Just drive through the parking lot and throw whatever money you planned to use out the window. Saves time.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 26, 2025, 10:56 AMGet ready for that sweet Russian oligarch money.
Get Putin on the phone pronto.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:01 AMCan't wait for Smirnoff Field at Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium.
The "Vodka Bowl" when we play UT.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 26, 2025, 11:21 AMShould have just thrown that $1,000 out the window as you were driving down the highway. Kind of like going to the casinos. Just drive through the parking lot and throw whatever money you planned to use out the window. Saves time.
I mail them half of what I was planning each year, also saves gas, hotel, etc.
If he can have his Russian cronies rough up the SEC office, that's another win.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 26, 2025, 11:21 AMShould have just thrown that $1,000 out the window as you were driving down the highway. Kind of like going to the casinos. Just drive through the parking lot and throw whatever money you planned to use out the window. Saves time.
I must have a bullseye on me anytime I step in one. I've learned to avoid them like the plague.
If you're going G5 route, about as good as you can do I guess.
Frank Fletcher on the buzz said this morning he's done til Yuracheeks is fired lol.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 11:24 AMIf he can have his Russian cronies rough up the SEC office, that's another win.
All for it.
football scoop saying other candidates being told the job is taken.
a russian ginger at arkanasas.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:27 AMFrank Fletcher on the buzz said this morning he's done til Yuracheeks is fired lol.
Lol good. Need more of that.
Golesh will go 3-9 next year and get a raise and a contract extension with a sweet buyout.
I'll support him, but I'm not impressed. Winning would change my mind.
We need to get Denzel Washington to pay him a visit and offer him $9,800 to not take the job.
Dude didn't leave Russia til the age of 7.
predictions:
Golesh to Arkansas
Kiffin to LSU
Drink to Florida
Sumrall to Ole Miss
Auburn promotes Durk (who hires Bobby Petrino as OC)
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 26, 2025, 10:56 AMGet ready for that sweet Russian oligarch money.
Now we're talking.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 26, 2025, 11:36 AMGolesh will go 3-9 next year and get a raise and a contract extension with a sweet buyout.
come now. He'll go 3-9 next year, then win 8 the year after. THAT'S when he'll get the extension and buyout. After that he'll win 6-7 for another few years, then collapse and win 2 games and get fired.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 11:42 AMpredictions:
Golesh to Arkansas
Kiffin to LSU
Drink to Florida
Sumrall to Ole Miss
Auburn promotes Durk (who hires Bobby Petrino as OC)
A ton of smoke on Sumrall to Auburn.
I'll support him until he gives me reason not to support him.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 26, 2025, 11:39 AMWe need to get Denzel Washington to pay him a visit and offer him $9,800 to not take the job.
Awesome scene.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 11:43 AMI'll support him until he gives me reason not to support him.
That was me after we hired Chad.
I was ready to fire him after the opening presser.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 11:42 AMpredictions:
Golesh to Arkansas
Kiffin to LSU
Drink to Florida
Sumrall to Ole Miss
Auburn promotes Durk (who hires Bobby Petrino as OC)
OC Bobby is the Christmas wish for many OU fans as well.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 11:47 AMOC Bobby is the Christmas wish for many OU fans as well.
He will come back to haunt us, and post 60 points on us.
Quote from: dhog on Nov 26, 2025, 11:50 AMHe will come back to haunt us, and post 60 points on us.
Yeah right lol.
Dude lost to Memphis 3 years in a row.
Those red shoes are going to fit like old slippers
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 11:45 AMThat was me after we hired Chad.
I was ready to fire him after the opening presser.
:maundoed:
I remember the board sentiment was pretty unhappy after the first half of his first game. Then Storey bailed him out late.
I'm good with Golesh if he's the guy. I'd prefer him over Wommack. Don't know much about Sumrall but apparently he wasn't really in the fold. Sad that we're basically letting Bobby out of the building but I mean we have to be realistic. The guy is old and his offense shit the bed plenty in terms of fumbles this season. I know I know not his team...whatever he's had a half a season to correct some of that shit and a lot of it may have been corrected with a willingness to play a different QB.
Golesh has some connections to Greenwood from what I understand so I wonder if that makes Kane Archer reconsider his reconsideration again.
On paper, he has the best resume for any coach we've hired since Bielema in 2013.
But considering that, in between, we hired Chad and Sam, that's not saying much.
Just watched a couple interviews with him. He comes off as no nonsense...sort of a dick. Could be fun with our retard media members.
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1993726149395165694?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1993726149395165694?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Ozzy bin Muhammad Maverick approved.
Just watched the highlights of the game vs North Texas.
First two plays, the RB for USF fumbles the ball (gets it back), then the QB for USF fumbles the ball (and loses it).
It was like hearing a car backfire a week after returning from nam.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 11:45 AMThat was me after we hired Chad.
I was ready to fire him after the opening presser.
Hey, you need to sit up straight and put your feet on the floor.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:55 AMJust watched a couple interviews with him. He comes off as no nonsense...sort of a dick. Could be fun with our retard media members.
He has no time for sons of dicks and bitches.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 11:57 AMJust watched the highlights of the game vs North Texas.
First two plays, the RB for USF fumbles the ball (gets it back), then the QB for USF fumbles the ball (and loses it).
It was like hearing a car backfire a week after returning from nam.
:maundoed:
POTD!
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 26, 2025, 11:59 AMHe has no time for sons of dicks and bitches.
Also. well played. Yolena has surplanted Rick B as #1 fan.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:57 AMhttps://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1993726149395165694?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1993726149395165694?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Ozzy bin Muhammad Maverick approved.
If ever was there was a death wish. Literally
Now Wess Moore and others in lockstep saying not a done deal lol.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 12:11 PMNow Wess Moore and others in lockstep saying not a done deal lol.
sexton get another bidder to the table? hook, line, and sinker.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 11:43 AMA ton of smoke on Sumrall to Auburn.
Yeah sounds like all but done.
Quote from: animal on Nov 26, 2025, 11:54 AMI'm good with Golesh if he's the guy. I'd prefer him over Wommack. Don't know much about Sumrall but apparently he wasn't really in the fold. Sad that we're basically letting Bobby out of the building but I mean we have to be realistic. The guy is old and his offense shit the bed plenty in terms of fumbles this season. I know I know not his team...whatever he's had a half a season to correct some of that shit and a lot of it may have been corrected with a willingness to play a different QB.
Golesh has some connections to Greenwood from what I understand so I wonder if that makes Kane Archer reconsider his reconsideration again.
Bobby has had two years to fix Green.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/daoh4urXKMo
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 12:20 PMBobby has had two years to fix Green.
Or recruit someone better.
So who are the up and comers that we will be looking at 5-6 years from now?
Golesh is gonna pull an Altman?
https://x.com/BunkiePerkins/status/1993740646688161818?t=JChRWKNYHgXavLwaXUhnjw&s=19 (https://x.com/BunkiePerkins/status/1993740646688161818?t=JChRWKNYHgXavLwaXUhnjw&s=19)
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 26, 2025, 11:52 AMDude lost to Memphis 3 years in a row.
Those red shoes are going to fit like old slippers
I'm still wondering what Silverfield has in his background that keeps him off the hot coaches list.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 26, 2025, 12:36 PMI'm still wondering what Silverfield has in his background that keeps him off the hot coaches list.
Maybe that the last 2 that proceeded him and made the jump failed miserably? All I got.
This doesn't smell right
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/11/26/inside-scoop-arkansas-making-decisions-next-head-coach
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 12:40 PMThis doesn't smell right
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/11/26/inside-scoop-arkansas-making-decisions-next-head-coach
That sounds worse than the Circle of Trustables
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 12:40 PMThis doesn't smell right
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/11/26/inside-scoop-arkansas-making-decisions-next-head-coach
Behind a paywall. 😠
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 12:47 PMBehind a paywall. 😠
you only needed to see the last paragraph:
Yurachek wants a signed agreement, such as an memorandum of understanding (M.O.U.), with the Razorbacks' next head coach "before this weekend's games are over, because he doesn't want to get into a bidding war." Sources tell FootballScoop as of this morning nothing has been signed, we are told things are moving in a clear direction.
this could most definitely be another Altman situation
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 12:50 PMyou only needed to see the last paragraph:
Yurachek wants a signed agreement, such as an memorandum of understanding (M.O.U.), with the Razorbacks' next head coach "before this weekend's games are over, because he doesn't want to get into a bidding war." Sources tell FootballScoop as of this morning nothing has been signed, we are told things are moving in a clear direction.
I didn't need to see that to know he wouldn't get into a bidding war.
Per Otis
https://x.com/OtisKirk23/status/1993467714216857939?t=M81TVvNQSIDLjHgU0ZNRtg&s=19
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 12:57 PMI didn't need to see that to know he wouldn't get into a bidding war.
The point is Golesh hasn't signed shit so we all just need to slow our roll
So we offered a guy we never interviewed??
One thing that is almost always assured: A Razorback football coaching hire will be a clusterfuck.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 01:00 PMSo we offered a guy we never interviewed??
That was posted last night around the same time we allegedly interviewed him
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 12:57 PMI didn't need to see that to know he wouldn't get into a bidding war.
:D
Pop fag wants us to thank him for his service
https://x.com/mrbobbybones/status/1993718050500284468?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
HY wanting a deal signed before the season is over "to avoid a bidding war" is exactly why no smart coach would ever sign before the season is over. Why take yourself out of a potential bidding war?
if you're believing grit for even a second, then that's on you. good lord.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 01:09 PMif you're believing grit for even a second, then that's on you. good lord.
I was more so questioning his statement.
If we've moved far to where many are saying he's the choice, then somewhere along the way he was interviewed.
https://x.com/Wess_Moore/status/1993738791673319501
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 01:15 PMhttps://x.com/Wess_Moore/status/1993738791673319501
That's a good way to sabotage the deal. Pure Arkansas.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 01:09 PMif you're believing grit any of them for even a second, then that's on you. good lord.
Fixt
If it's Golesh. I want every clickbait, "you won't believe this hire" assholes to tell us who they heard we were just about to hire. There's no reason to keep it quiet now.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 26, 2025, 01:44 PMIf it's Golesh. I want every clickbait, "you won't believe this hire" assholes to tell us who they heard we were just about to hire. There's no reason to keep it quiet now.
Right?
Hiring Golesh might be "good" or even "could be great" but it's not "WOW!" like some of these twitter "look at me" divas were saying.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 01:09 PMif you're believing grit for even a second, then that's on you. good lord.
This
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 26, 2025, 01:47 PMRight?
Hiring Golesh might be "good" or even "could be great" but it's not "WOW!" like some of these twitter "look at me" divas were saying.
Those dudes make $35k a year. They are starving and gotta drum up business.
103.7 saying we had an offer sheet prepared for Morris yesterday and have presented an offer sheet to Golesch.
Golesch supposedly waiting on Ole Miss to open up.
What a clusterfuck.
It's kind of like being ahead in the forth quarter, but not finishing off the win.
We've pissed away every bit of leverage by letting this leak early. Now he can drive up his price as high as he wants and there's not a gd thing we can do about it. All of the pressure is now on us to lock him up before this weekend or we look like the hapless cucks we are.
I want to know what we are offering for NIL. If Golesh is waiting to see if OM is gonna open, that leads me to believe our NIL is still sub-par.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Nov 26, 2025, 01:59 PMIt's kind of like being ahead in the forth quarter, but not finishing off the win.
The Arkansas way, eh?
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 26, 2025, 01:57 PM103.7 saying we had an offer sheet prepared for Morris yesterday and have presented an offer sheet to Golesch.
Golesch supposedly waiting on Ole Miss to open up.
What a clusterfuck.
If this is remotely true, fire Yuracheeks right into the sun.
Quote from: dhog on Nov 26, 2025, 11:50 AMHe will come back to haunt us, and post 60 points on us.
Right. Like every team has shut his ass down in the second half with minor adjustments and saying mean things to Green.
Gonna be awesome when we have to end up calling Bobby on the phone when everyone else turns us down and asking if he is still available...
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 01:59 PMWe've pissed away every bit of leverage by letting this leak early. Now he can drive up his price as high as he wants and there's not a gd thing we can do about it. All of the pressure is now on us to lock him up before this weekend or we look like the hapless cucks we are.
Surely Yurachek is a good negotiator. That's a big part of his job afterall.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 26, 2025, 02:03 PMIf this is remotely true, fire Yuracheeks right into the sun.
It's all BS until the official announcement. These guys have been pulling stuff out of their asses since Pittman was fired and the Golesh angle is no different. Someone is going to be right in who the coach is, but it'll only be by accident.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 26, 2025, 02:05 PMRight. Like every team has shut his ass down in the second half with minor adjustments and saying mean things to Green.
But we are Arkansas. Maybe 60 points was a bit rich even for our defense.
Woopiggers can just take turns calling plays. Turbo Buffalo!
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 12:20 PMBobby has had two years to fix Green.
Absolutely. The offense is his team. Empty calorie yardage combined with weekly 2 nd half collapses, turnovers. Penalties. That offense is his squad. It sucks. Clean house.
Quote from: dhog on Nov 26, 2025, 02:05 PMIt's all BS until the official announcement. These guys have been pulling stuff out of their asses since Pittman was fired and the Golesh angle is no different. Someone is going to be right in who the coach is, but it'll only be by accident.
I'd be fine with revoking media access to anyone who has tried to scoop the hire
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 26, 2025, 02:05 PMRight. Like every team has shut his ass down in the second half with minor adjustments and saying mean things to Green.
Time and time again plays were there. It's more indicative of Green than Petrino.
You think he should've went to KJ sooner, fine. That's easy for you to say. Green gave Petrino the best chance to win in a situation he HAD to win games to get the job. If you were fighting for your job, you'd roll with what gave you rhe best chance to be successful as well.
BP's offense is the ONLY reason we weren't blown out every game
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 02:05 PMGonna be awesome when we have to end up calling Bobby on the phone when everyone else turns us down and asking if he is still available...
No worries, Barry Lunney, Jr or Gus will be available.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 26, 2025, 02:25 PMNo worries, Barry Lunney, Jr or Gus will be available.
Their prices just went up also.
https://x.com/RHiggins_USF/status/1993776966843908127?t=jID5qeFhnWGn5Xtp_V0GUw&s=19 (https://x.com/RHiggins_USF/status/1993776966843908127?t=jID5qeFhnWGn5Xtp_V0GUw&s=19)
I want Alex Golesh only because it makes me laugh at Grit. And Grit will never recover. How does he have supporters??
Also, everyone is pissed they got scooped by Schaap. It's hilarious. They are all "checking their sources" and "waiting on confirmation" now.
I like Golesh. We need culture change in a bad way and he's like a younger version of Bobby Petrino.
And Tennessee fans hate we hired him. That's always a plus.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 12:40 PMQuote from: Natty_Ice (https://www.woopig.org/index.php?msg=221615)
This doesn't smell right
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/11/26/inside-scoop-arkansas-making-decisions-next-head-coach
"matching what the school's athletics director, Hunter Yurachek, has privately told confidantes in recent weeks."
This is all you need to know that this article is bullshit.
For all HY's faults, he doesn't talk to people about the coaching search. When he introduced SP he said that there are only two others who know what is going on. I find it hard to believe he is doing things differently this time around.
That's the one thing I definitely like about HY
This Schaap imbecile really fkd us..
https://x.com/usf_p5/status/1993759227404222689
If it turns out be Golesh, I'll be just fine with this hire. He was one of the younger coaches I thought we should target at the start of this process. I think he did a good job as OC of the Vols and has turned around a really bad USF program.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 03:01 PMThis Schaap imbecile really fkd us..
https://x.com/usf_p5/status/1993759227404222689
We all need to remember, just because a f'n reporter says something doesn't mean it's true or ever has been true. It's all pretty much an educated or semi-educated guess. No need to get our panties in a wad
I don't think I'll ever understand the ego-boost these clout-chasers get from getting the scoop, or being right, or appearing to be "connected".
What the fuck kind of mental illness and insecurity is this?
SEC network hasn't reported anything on a hiring at Arkansas.
Would be so typical Arkansas that in a search where we heard literally nothing for a month that the hire was fucked up at the last second because of a leak. lol
As for the source of the leak, my money is on Sexton trying to muddy the waters and get more money for his client and/or steer him to Ole Miss.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 26, 2025, 03:21 PMWould be so typical Arkansas that in a search where we heard literally nothing for a month that the hire was fucked up at the last second because of a leak. lol
As for the source of the leak, my money is on Sexton trying to muddy the waters and get more money for his client and/or steer him to Ole Miss.
My guess is HY leaked the tweet thinking he'd put pressure on Golesch.
Bad move.
HY is a dipshit and needs to be shown the door. He is shit Midas.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 02:24 PMTime and time again plays were there. It's more indicative of Green than Petrino.
You think he should've went to KJ sooner, fine. That's easy for you to say. Green gave Petrino the best chance to win in a situation he HAD to win games to get the job. If you were fighting for your job, you'd roll with what gave you rhe best chance to be successful as well.
BP's offense is the ONLY reason we weren't blown out every game
It's just half of one game but there is some pretty favorable objective evidence he should've gone to KJ earlier, or at least mix him in.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 03:38 PMIt's just half of one game but there is some petty favorable objective evidence he should've gone to KJ earlier, or at least mix him in.
Yes
And the kid may turn out awful once defenses adjust but not being willing to punish unacceptable play sent the wrong message but Petrino was trying to keep guys as engaged as possible. A two qb rotation I think would have helped foster competition and eventually may have shown that KJ has enough upside to move forward.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 26, 2025, 03:01 PMThis Schaap imbecile really fkd us..
https://x.com/usf_p5/status/1993759227404222689
Personally, I love all of this drama. It makes everything just feel more... Arkansas
I'd say after Golesh turns us down we'll get down to some legitimate candidates.
Took us at least 3 rejections before having to settle on Pittman.
Golesh saw Yurachek's 6-7 video.
No way he's working for that gaywad.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 26, 2025, 03:49 PMI'd say after Golesh turns us down we'll get down to some legitimate candidates.
Took us at least 3 rejections before having to settle on Pittman.
Danny Nutt is still in the game!
Bazzel can be DC and Scanlon the OC.
When they introduce Gus then you'll know
Maybe he heard that there aren't any synagogues on the Hill and said 'no thanks.'
If it's Golesh I am not too excited that he has an OC background. I want a defensive guru. I am so very, very tired of playing in the SEC with a tissue paper defense.
So maybe it will flip back to Wommack.
Golesh is a young version of BMFP.
Dude has had an even better offense than Bobby's the last 5 years.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 26, 2025, 02:07 PMAbsolutely. The offense is his team. Empty calorie yardage combined with weekly 2 nd half collapses, turnovers. Penalties. That offense is his squad. It sucks. Clean house.
SECOND IN THE SEC IN SCORING IN SEC GAMES.
Not empty yards
Not against cupcakes
Points on the board against SEC opponents
I think you might have gone retarded.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 02:24 PMTime and time again plays were there. It's more indicative of Green than Petrino.
You think he should've went to KJ sooner, fine. That's easy for you to say. Green gave Petrino the best chance to win in a situation he HAD to win games to get the job. If you were fighting for your job, you'd roll with what gave you rhe best chance to be successful as well.
BP's offense is the ONLY reason we weren't blown out every game
I agree to make the switch in the bye week, heading to Knoxville, would've been a tough call.
Staying competitive in the A&M game might have actually fucked us. If we get blown out, maybe we could have gotten KJ some 2nd half action to see what he could do. Then we could have made the switch before the Auburn game and maybe won 2 or 3 without Tarded Green fucking things up.
What Ifs is the story of Arkansas Football.
Who they talking bout??
https://x.com/insideokst/status/1993474243963871625?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Quote from: bogeyfree on Nov 26, 2025, 03:10 PMWe all need to remember, just because a f'n reporter says something doesn't mean it's true or ever has been true. It's all pretty much an educated or semi-educated guess retarded bullshit. No need to get our panties in a wad
Fixt.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 26, 2025, 04:21 PMWho they talking bout??
Us if we ever actually considered Morris.
If Trey has any UA press credentials they should be revoked.
https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1993785020692222221?s=20
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 26, 2025, 04:19 PMI agree to make the switch in the bye week, heading to Knoxville, would've been a tough call.
Staying competitive in the A&M game might have actually fucked us. If we get blown out, maybe we could have gotten KJ some 2nd half action to see what he could do. Then we could have made the switch before the Auburn game and maybe won 2 or 3 without Tarded Green fucking things up.
What Ifs is the story of Arkansas Football.
It's easy for us to say. Petrino is watching them everyday in practice and his job is on the line.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 26, 2025, 04:51 PMIt's easy for us to say. Petrino is watching them everyday in practice and his job is on the line.
Maybe Green wore a blonde wig and volleyball shorts in practice.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 04:52 PMMaybe Green wore a blonde wig and volleyball shorts in practice.
Can a mod please delete this? It's rather disgusting and I just pulled a prime rib off the smoker.
https://x.com/blutman27/status/1993798146984693864?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Why don't we hire someone who wants to be here? Why do we allow ourselves to be 2nd to Ole Miss?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 26, 2025, 04:52 PMMaybe Green wore a blonde wig and volleyball shorts in practice.
Going the extra mile.
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he (or any coach) is not signing shit until it goes to the bot. since i believe they have to announce official business ahead of time, when word of a meeting gets out, that's when something official is leaked.
I don't know why Golesh would tell assistants to start looking at houses if he was trying to keep secret for another week. Seems like the fastest way for it to get out.
My man
https://x.com/boyd_rakeem/status/1993769357843812647?s=20
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 05:32 PMMy man
https://x.com/boyd_rakeem/status/1993769357843812647?s=20
He's not wrong.
Clicks. It's all about the clicks. Being first.
I remember when Dudley Dawson, on Orville Henry's spawns old website, talked about a "super secret Knock Your Socks Off" recruit that was going to sign with the Hogs. For weeks Dawson would scheme and deceive everyone about this game changing player. Turned out it was Michael Dyer, who ultimately chose Auburn. Dyer wasn't even considering Arkansas. Dudley Dawson lied just to keep fans hooked on his KYSO bullshit so you'd keep "clicking".
Like all news, take it with a grain of salt.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 01:09 PMif you're believing grit for even a second, then that's on you. good lord.
It ain't cool...being no jive turkey...so close to Thanksgiving.
Still think it will be Golesh and that he had just requested it to not come out until after their final regular season game.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 26, 2025, 07:34 PMStill think it will be Golesh and that he had just requested it to not come out until after their final regular season game.
Same.
IDGAF about Ole Miss and their NIL. Those rubarbs will pull the money faster than Faubus in a doorframe as soon as Lane leaves or he shits the bed.
It's still Old Piss. Any coach that would be mad about fat-ass reporters talking shit on twatter about what he might do, won't simultaneously tell the same crumb-covered lardass 'oh yeah, i'm waiting for the job in Oxford to open up.'
Gimme a fuckin' break.
The blackbears still have to beat the bulldykes and that's not a given b/c it's a rivalry game.
Petrion posted his goodbye, which means the deal is done.
Yurachek's swollen aggie-ass has nothing to do with any of it and he will be gone like a fart in the wind come 2026.
golesh makes $2.5 million per. if we have a contract for him to sign, i feel it's safe to assume it will be at least double that. usf can't match what we are offering.
add to the fact that his wife is from arkasnas, i'm sure she would be totally cool with him turning down truly life changing money plus a chance to move back home because he got butthurt over a tweet.
Okay this makes a bit more sense. I guess this might actually be a dream job, if not for him, his wife. This is the official USF Bulls pages.
https://gousfbulls.com/news/2023/10/28/alexis-golesh-the-strong-woman-behind-the-bulls-football-coach1
She was the Arkansas girl from the tiny town of Greenwood who loved football and never missed a Razorback home game.
Happy wife...happy life. Unless you're Gus malzahn.
https://x.com/kevodonnellfla/status/1993827297389105304
seems to me he's just waiting on Ole Miss
We're assuming his wife wants to be back in NWA. If she does then it's a done deal.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 08:10 PMWe're assuming his wife wants to be back in NWA. If she does then it's a done deal.
Well, if you read the article she still comes back once a month for business and she never missed a Razorback game. So, I'm going to assume she wants to come back.
and an hour later that guy tweets this. totally different tune.
https://x.com/KevODonnellFLA/status/1993843564225417398
That's still a big difference from Trey's attempt earlier in the day to get the big scoop acting like it was a done deal
Quote from: red death on Nov 26, 2025, 02:34 PMI want Alex Golesh only because it makes me laugh at Grit. And Grit will never recover. How does he have supporters??
Also, everyone is pissed they got scooped by Schaap. It's hilarious. They are all "checking their sources" and "waiting on confirmation" now.
I like Golesh. We need culture change in a bad way and he's like a younger version of Bobby Petrino.
And Tennessee fans hate we hired him. That's always a plus.
This one hopes he wins big for the Hogs.
Of course I am a dual enrollment student.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 26, 2025, 11:59 AMHe has no time for sons of dicks and bitches.
Just found a new line to add to my woopig signature. Thank you sir.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 26, 2025, 08:18 PMand an hour later that guy tweets this. totally different tune.
https://x.com/KevODonnellFLA/status/1993843564225417398
Losing to Navy really weighs heavy on your soul...
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 08:21 PMThat's still a big difference from Trey's attempt earlier in the day to get the big scoop acting like it was a done deal
Going to be a long 3-5 days to wait on this if it's indeed him and he's waiting until after their game sat night. Never heard of this Trey guy before today. Guess he's another one of these podcast poser types?
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 08:34 PMLosing to Navy really weighs heavy on your soul...
He's seeking council from the Japanese as we speak.
bazzel sure thinks he's the guy.
https://x.com/sully7777/status/1993802078012285253
It's stupid it got leaked. Big difference in fucking Oxford and Fayetteville especially as she's from NWA. Who wants be be buried in all that William Faulkner deification bullshit anyway.
I'd like to know how many coaches are repped by fucking sexton. He needs to be broken for Anti trust.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 08:34 PMLosing to Navy really weighs heavy on your soul...
It sinks your enthusiasm.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 26, 2025, 08:21 PMThat's still a big difference from Trey's attempt earlier in the day to get the big scoop acting like it was a done deal
They very well could have a verbal agreement that they agreed would not be announced until after this last game. Whoever leaked this doesn't have the best interests of our football program, no matter what they might say. Golesh has every right to be ticked off by this buffoonery.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 26, 2025, 09:16 PMWhoever leaked this doesn't have the best interests of our football program, no matter what they might say.
yeah, i wonder who told him.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 26, 2025, 09:16 PMThey very well could have a verbal agreement that they agreed would not be announced until after this last game. Whoever leaked this doesn't have the best interests of our football program, no matter what they might say. Golesh has every right to be ticked off by this buffoonery.
What if Golesh's wife leaked it? Not on purpose mind you. Wife is excited, tells maw and paw. Next thing you know cousin Betty is putting it on the prayer circle at church.
That's as likely a scenario as HY or his two or three trusted circle guys leaking it.
Point is, not everything that happens is a reflection of the administration.
Women love to come back home...know what else they love? Money, shitloads of fucking money. She might love Arkansas but if someone throws a boatload of money at him, she can fly back home on weekends in a private jet...
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 26, 2025, 09:31 PMWomen love to come back home...know what else they love? Money, shitloads of fucking money. She might love Arkansas but if someone throws a boatload of money at him, she can fly back home on weekends in a private jet...
Probably not the type that attends games regularly and is a legit hog fan.
Trey Schapp is a local Buzz 103.7 employee for those who don't know.
Yes, Little Rock radio.
Interesting, for sure, that this information came from Little Rock, instead of Fayetteville.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 26, 2025, 09:26 PMWhat if Golesh's wife leaked it? Not on purpose mind you. Wife is excited, tells maw and paw. Next thing you know cousin Betty is putting it on the prayer circle at church.
That's as likely a scenario as HY or his two or three trusted circle guys leaking it.
Point is, not everything that happens is a reflection of the administration.
Someone involved texted Trey. I doubt it was Golesh's wife.
Quote from: red death on Nov 26, 2025, 10:07 PMTrey Schapp is a local Buzz 103.7 employee for those who don't know.
Yes, Little Rock radio.
Interesting, for sure, that this information came from Little Rock, instead of Fayetteville.
If I were a betting man, I'd think he has not had a very good day with some of the backlash, at least not what he was expecting.
That video with Bazzell and Sullivan sure seems like they believe he's going to be the next coach, and it was released not long after the leak.
Quote from: red death on Nov 26, 2025, 10:07 PMTrey Schapp is a local Buzz 103.7 employee for those who don't know.
Yes, Little Rock radio.
Interesting, for sure, that this information came from Little Rock, instead of Fayetteville.
Little Rock's revenge on NWA for spreading the Cornrows "bad moral fiber" rumors? The next civil war starts in our state.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 26, 2025, 10:22 PMSomeone involved texted Trey. I doubt it was Golesh's wife.
Probably cousin Betty.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 26, 2025, 10:22 PMSomeone involved texted Trey. I doubt it was Golesh's wife.
:thumb_up:
Quote from: wmr on Nov 26, 2025, 10:27 PMThat video with Bazzell and Sullivan sure seems like they believe he's going to be the next coach, and it was released not long after the leak.
Agree. I don't know if that was actually broadcast but it appeared as if it could have been. I find it hard to believe those guys got duped that hard. They've been doing it for a while.
As others have said, this was never supposed to be announced until after this weekend's games. Now that it has been, his side is publicly backing off in order to save face, and probably not lose his team three days before he plays the final game of the regular season. Once the game is over, he'll confirm the reports.
Probably, the official story will be "I never had an offer, but they were interested, and after the final game, I heard their offer and accepted."
In reality, he was probably offered and accepted days ago.
Hunters dumbass probably thought he was talking to espns Jeremy schaap and trusted him not to leak the story.
https://x.com/jtalty/status/1993887707534381292?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Our side needs to STFU the rest of the week and not make our program look even more clownshoes than it is.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 26, 2025, 11:28 PMhttps://x.com/jtalty/status/1993887707534381292?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Oh good, another potential hire with no head coaching experience. I'm almost as pissed at whoever made the call to nix BMFP as whoever is running the current keystone cops search.
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 27, 2025, 12:37 AMOh good, another potential hire with no head coaching experience. I'm almost as pissed at whoever made the call to nix BMFP as whoever is running the current keystone cops search.
Who has no head coaching experience?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 27, 2025, 12:40 AMWho has no head coaching experience?
Sorry, 3 years at South Alabama (Kane Wommack).
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bulls/2025/11/26/is-usfs-alex-golesh-headed-arkansas/
Quote from: red death on Nov 26, 2025, 10:07 PMTrey Schapp is a local Buzz 103.7 employee for those who don't know.
Yes, Little Rock radio.
Interesting, for sure, that this information came from Little Rock, instead of Fayetteville.
The Buzz has long been a mouthpiece for the UA. When they want something out but it's supposed to not get out etc. This was a dick move by someone upstairs and I can only guess what dipshit would have done that.
Some Buzz people also have some friendships with a lot of Ole Miss and Sexton people from what I understand.
Then let's come back to the fact that HY probably isn't making this hire. That means there are factions hard at work back biting...oh I do love a good Ark coaching search.
You know the Gus people are still working the phones
There are Petrino people that evidently had their shot but it's not gonna be him
HY, KING OF THE DIPSHITS...he's probably working his Major Applewhite connections
Scanlon and whoever the fuck is probably taking an analytical approach and decided Golesh is the right man...
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 27, 2025, 12:12 AMOur side needs to STFU the rest of the week and not make our program look even more clownshoes than it is.
Mission: Unpossible
4th & 5 did a breakdown of Golesh's offense. Some stuff in there makes me pretty nervous if he's the hire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVCY9FyoJg
-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so. That's really not good for our D. We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.
Quote from: passed on Nov 27, 2025, 07:06 AM4th & 5 did a breakdown of Golesh's offense. Some stuff in there makes me pretty nervous if he's the hire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVCY9FyoJg
-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so. That's really not good for our D. We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.
His Hendon Hooker year(s) were pretty entertaining...so there's that.
I won't be mad if he's the guy...and there just aren't a ton of Goldie Locks exp head coaches with great records dying to come to Ark.
I didn't watch this video but I'm guessing they are completely ignoring that South Florida was every bit the dumpster fire Arkansas is when they hired him.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2025, 07:11 AMHis Hendon Hooker year(s) were pretty entertaining...so there's that.
I won't be mad if he's the guy...and there just aren't a ton of Goldie Locks exp head coaches with great records dying to come to Ark.
I didn't watch this video but I'm guessing they are completely ignoring that South Florida was every bit the dumpster fire Arkansas is when they hired him.
No, they did mention that. The video is largely about what we COULD expect to see if he's the coach. Mostly film breakdown.
If we're taking the "USF was bad before him approach" then he's as good as Charlie Strong but not Jim Leavitt.
Everytime I see the name Golesh all I can think of is Gilgamesh. Coach Gilgamesh. Seeking fame and immortality.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2025, 06:21 AMThe Buzz has long been a mouthpiece for the UA. When they want something out but it's supposed to not get out etc. This was a dick move by someone upstairs and I can only guess what dipshit would have done that.
Some Buzz people also have some friendships with a lot of Ole Miss and Sexton people from what I understand.
Then let's come back to the fact that HY probably isn't making this hire. That means there are factions hard at work back biting...oh I do love a good Ark coaching search.
You know the Gus people are still working the phones
There are Petrino people that evidently had their shot but it's not gonna be him
HY, KING OF THE DIPSHITS...he's probably working his Major Applewhite connections
Scanlon and whoever the fuck is probably taking an analytical approach and decided Golesh is the right man...
Scanlon definitely isn't an analytics guy. If it's not a top tier candidate you're throwing darts. We're in the same boat with Auburn and the rest that'll fill out with G5's.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 07:32 AMIf we're taking the "USF was bad before him approach" then he's as good as Charlie Strong but not Jim Leavitt.
Charlie's best year there was his first by far. He took over a team that had won 11 the year before and 19 in the last two and won 10. Two years later he won 4 and was fired.
By the way for anyone talking about Dabo, what might be the two worst hires in modern football were his OCs. Of course, we all know about Morris, but Jeff Scott the guy who took over for him at Clemson was arguably worse at USF. He won four games in three years.
Quote from: Guardrail on Nov 27, 2025, 07:32 AMEverytime I see the name Golesh all I can think of is Gilgamesh. Coach Gilgamesh. Seeking fame and immortality.
AKA Coach Nimrod
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Lol!
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 09:19 AMhttps://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Lol!
Why is Gerard Butler posting about Razorback football?
It's interesting that Frank Fletcher called out Wal Mart on the Buzz yesterday.
Talking about civil war, shots were fired. And the leak comes from Trey Schaap. It's well known Frank wanted Bobby BIG time.
I'm not saying anything, but if someone was allegedly pissed and wanted revenge, the leak makes sense.
It's a mess. I'm not saying that Golesh still won't come, his wife I'm sure wants to get home, but it's unfortunate.
I could tell by Steve Sullivan and Bazzels reaction too, they don't seem to be hyping the hire.
Quote from: red death on Nov 27, 2025, 09:24 AMIt's interesting that Frank Fletcher called out Wal Mart on the Buzz yesterday.
Talking about civil war, shots were fired. And the leak comes from Trey Schaap. It's well known Frank wanted Bobby BIG time.
I'm not saying anything, but if someone was allegedly pissed and wanted revenge, the leak makes sense.
It's a mess. I'm not saying that Golesh still won't come, his wife I'm sure wants to get home, but it's unfortunate.
I could tell by Steve Sullivan and Bazzels reaction too, they don't seem to be hyping the hire.
No offense to Frank, but he's got baby money if anyone connected to WMT is getting involved.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 09:28 AMNo offense to Frank, but he's got baby money if anyone connected to WMT is getting involved.
Frank pretty much said that so I doubt he'd take offense. He said the Walton's needed to get involved.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 09:28 AMNo offense to Frank, but he's got baby money if anyone connected to WMT is getting involved.
They're clearly not. That's why Frank is pissed. Rob has the Broncos, that's a great investment. They have spent millions making NWA one of the best places to live.
Razorback football is being purposely shunned. I think it has to do with state politics? I don't know.
What I do know, is being the Arkansas athletic director makes you the most, or one of the most, powerful men in all of college football. Which is insane, considering our own results. First Long, now Hunter.
There's a huge power structure, and business interests, behind our program in the shadows. The rich here don't care if we win, so long as their money influences who actually gets to win the whole thing.
It's amazing. They don't care about us, they know we'll swallow whatever crap they feed us on the cheap. While they run Denver or Dallas, and have their guy in charge of playoff seeding.
The UA athletic program has turned it's back on the state and local business. I know examples of this firsthand. It's a 180 degree difference since Frank.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 09:19 AMhttps://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1993873835100184904?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Lol!
Still say not one of these guys are credible.
The shear douchery of these guys is laughable. Not a one of them know shit. It must be really bad to have to live in such a made up world. Pretty pathetic.
Quote from: red death on Nov 27, 2025, 09:42 AMThey're clearly not. That's why Frank is pissed. Rob has the Broncos, that's a great investment. They have spent millions making NWA one of the best places to live.
Razorback football is being purposely shunned. I think it has to do with state politics? I don't know.
What I do know, is being the Arkansas athletic director makes you the most, or one of the most, powerful men in all of college football. Which is insane, considering our own results. First Long, now Hunter.
There's a huge power structure, and business interests, behind our program in the shadows. The rich here don't care if we win, so long as their money influences who actually gets to win the whole thing.
It's amazing. They don't care about us, they know we'll swallow whatever crap they feed us on the cheap. While they run Denver or Dallas, and have their guy in charge of playoff seeding.
The UA athletic program has turned it's back on the state and local business. I know examples of this firsthand. It's a 180 degree difference since Frank.
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Quote from: dhog on Nov 27, 2025, 09:54 AMStill say not one of these guys are credible.
The shear douchery of these guys is laughable. Not a one of them know shit. It must be really bad to have to live in such a made up world. Pretty pathetic.
Pathetic is a nice way of saying it.
a bunch of insecure little men.
and whoever told that schaap guy to run with the story yesterday seems to have known exactly what would happen with the shit you see on twitter and the so-called arkansas media.
it damn sure wasn't yurachek as tight lipped as this search has been.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 27, 2025, 09:24 AMWhy is Gerard Butler posting about Razorback football?
Always liked his portrayal of Dracula in Dracula 2000.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 07:32 AMIf we're taking the "USF was bad before him approach" then he's as good as Charlie Strong but not Jim Leavitt.
"Yeah, but program X was a dumpster fire before he took over!" Seems to be this year's Arkansas fan talking point when justifying why a particular coach should be hired.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 27, 2025, 10:08 AMa bunch of insecure little men.
and whoever told that schaap guy to run with the story yesterday seems to have known exactly what would happen with the shit you see on twitter and the so-called arkansas media.
it damn sure wasn't yurachek as tight lipped as this search has been.
If I remember correctly, Schaap has done something douchey like this before.
No matter who takes our job, I don't care if it's Ryan Day or Nick Saban, we will know how serious we are as a football program by the package they give. It'll be right there in the details. I'm more interested in that than who takes the job.
This is pro football now. If they're going to give someone 25 million in NIL, we are cooking. If they're going cheap, it doesn't matter. The results will be just like this year.
Sam Pittman won about half the time. We saw Bobby, the actual best coach we've ever had, not be able to overcome our shitty players.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 27, 2025, 08:33 AM1st dark sider?
Better get in line. 0-3 against Memphis
Quote from: red death on Nov 27, 2025, 10:23 AMNo matter who takes our job, I don't care if it's Ryan Day or Nick Saban, we will know how serious we are as a football program by the package they give. It'll be right there in the details. I'm more interested in that than who takes the job.
This is pro football now. If they're going to give someone 25 million in NIL, we are cooking. If they're going cheap, it doesn't matter. The results will be just like this year.
Sam Pittman won about half the time. We saw Bobby, the actual best coach we've ever had, not be able to overcome our shitty players.
Preach
What did golesh do that was so great? Beat Florida? He best an overrated team that was bad enough to fire their coach.
That got him ranked. And then he lost to Memphis.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 27, 2025, 10:33 AMWhat did golesh do that was so great? Beat Florida? He best an overrated team that was bad enough to fire their coach.
That got him ranked. And then he lost to Memphis.
Why he beat North Texas State!
Keep fucking around and running the guy down before he even signs and we're gonna end up paying Gus $11 million a year to rescue us from embarrassment of not being able hire anyone.
Quote from: red death on Nov 27, 2025, 09:42 AMRazorback football is being purposely shunned. I think it has to do with state politics? I don't know.
Stephens is one of the largest privately owned investment banks in the United States but, other than Kevin Scanlon, I never seem to hear much about them vis a vis relationship with/support of Razorback athletics.
Bad blood, or am I just unaware of their support?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 27, 2025, 10:50 AMKeep fucking around and running the guy down before he even signs and we're gonna end up paying Gus $11 million a year to rescue us from embarrassment of not being able hire anyone.
this.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 27, 2025, 10:51 AMStephens is one of the largest privately owned investment banks in the United States but, other than Kevin Scanlon, I never seem to hear much about them vis a vis relationship with/support of Razorback athletics.
Bad blood, or am I just unaware of their support?
They've been an advertiser for the coaches' show since Bud Campbell days.
They have been an advocate for keeping LR games in the past, but I think even that has now passed.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 27, 2025, 10:51 AMStephens is one of the largest privately owned investment banks in the United States but, other than Kevin Scanlon, I never seem to hear much about them vis a vis relationship with/support of Razorback athletics.
Bad blood, or am I just unaware of their support?
The investment bank is a hobby at this point. The industry has changed and for the most part they are an also ran in the business. They make their money from the private investments. I'm sure they still give quite a bit.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 27, 2025, 10:36 AMWhy he beat North Texas State!
A feat of strength even Chad couldn't accomplish, so you know this guy must be the real deal.
biddy says an agreement has been reached, and now it goes to the bot for approval.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 27, 2025, 10:50 AMKeep fucking around and running the guy down before he even signs and we're gonna end up paying Gus $11 million a year to rescue us from embarrassment of not being able hire anyone.
they will hire BP before they hire Gus.
He is 2-4 against P5 opponents at South Florida, so that's already better than Chad.
I'm not thrilled about the hire, but I stupidly somewhat got my hopes up when everyone on Twitter was acting like we were fixin to make a splashy hire.
I probably would have rather kept Petrino, given him money for a good staff + solid NIL package and I think we would have similar results. I don't put the last half of the season on him. You can't change a culture of suck in a few months when you're dealing with all the same players.
Stephens is silent on everything.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 27, 2025, 11:25 AMHe is 2-4 against P5 opponents at South Florida, so that's already better than Chad.
I'm not thrilled about the hire, but I stupidly somewhat got my hopes up when everyone on Twitter was acting like we were fixin to make a splashy hire.
I probably would have rather kept Petrino, given him money for a good staff + solid NIL package and I think we would have similar results. I don't put the last half of the season on him. You can't change a culture of suck in a few months when you're dealing with all the same players.
Upper half of the pack in Offense in the SEC, dead last in Defense in the SEC. "BUT Ranndy he warshed up!!" So the answer is a guy who's 0-3 against Memphis.
Congrats! At least we're the current leader in the clubhouse for the dumbest administration in the SEC.
Quote from: TC on Nov 27, 2025, 11:39 AMUpper half of the pack in Offense in the SEC, dead last in Defense in the SEC. "BUT Ranndy he warshed up!!" So the answer is a guy who's 0-3 against Memphis.
Congrats! At least we're the current leader in the clubhouse for the dumbest administration in the SEC.
Actually, for SEC games only without, we are #2 for Scoring, only behind Tennessee. Add in that WE didn't get to play against OUR defense, not bad for WarshedUp.
Don't forget, 1-2 against Navy as well, 0-2 in the last 2 years.
Since Petrino's last year we are averaging a 5-7 season. That's over FOURTEEN years. We've went 4-4 in conference once and went 5-3 once.
It's slightly worse just over the last 10.
Some have said that if we fire Sam and hire a new coach, NIL money will come. We shall see. I still say that is more important than the coach we will likely hire. If we do not bring our NIL up to be competitive (top 8 in SEC) now, we probably never will. That tells me that the money in this state does not care much about the football program and that likely won't change.
The Walmart thing is kinda like this
They have all the power. They built NWA, they brought jobs here, they have created a walled garden if you will. They can out source whenever the mood suits them. AND they don't have to do a god damn thing for Razorback athletics.
Quote from: TC on Nov 27, 2025, 11:39 AMUpper half of the pack in Offense in the SEC, dead last in Defense in the SEC. "BUT Ranndy he warshed up!!" So the answer is a guy who's 0-3 against Memphis.
Congrats! At least we're the current leader in the clubhouse for the dumbest administration and fans in the SEC.
I edited your post but we all knew what you meant.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 10:20 AMIf I remember correctly, Schaap has done something douchey like this before.
He was on a list of Ashley Madison members when that scandal broke a few years ago. He was also married at the time.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 27, 2025, 11:12 AMbiddy says an agreement has been reached, and now it goes to the bot for approval.
So he was our coach, and then he wasn't, and then he was mad that someone leaked it and distracted the team before the final game... so the obvious mature next step would be for one of our media hacks to leak again that an agreement has been reached.
Ban them all from the university.
In all honesty, the Nimrod comment was in reference to the theory that Nimrod was the name the Hebrews gave to Gilgamesh.
Carry on.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 27, 2025, 12:49 PMIn all honesty, the Nimrod comment was in reference to the theory that Nimrod was the name the Hebrews gave to Gilgamesh.
Carry on.
The new and improved Reverend Snoophog.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 12:45 PMSo he was our coach, and then he wasn't, and then he was mad that someone leaked it and distracted the team before the final game... so the obvious mature next step would be for one of our media hacks to leak again that an agreement has been reached.
All before he's had a chance to tell his team and play their last game, which is what he was pissed about in the first place. I thought Biddy was smarter than that.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2025, 12:31 PMThe Walmart thing is kinda like this
They have all the power. They built NWA, they brought jobs here, they have created a walled garden if you will. They can out source whenever the mood suits them. AND they don't have to do a god damn thing for Razorback athletics.
agree. and another booster calling them out in public is just fucking weird.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 01:14 PMlol why
the Walk'n'Talks are mildly entertaining
We forgot to ask what Wally thinks
https://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1993914536215142651?s=20
I have said it before and will say it again. Most will disagree and that's OK. If we want to either be a bottom feeder or middle of the pack, stay in the SEC. If we want to win championships, go to another conference. And I am NOT advocating us leaving the SEC. Just saying there is no reason to get our hopes up to probably ever winning another championship in football in the SEC. We are the red headed stepchild of the SEC. Vandy, S. Carolina, Kentucky...all have surpassed us. And we continually slide to the bottom. Hell, even the Mississippi schools have gotten better. So, may as well cool your jets and accept what we are. We are either a place for coaches to come and get their retirement checks, or a stepping stone where coaches are switched out every 4-5 years. When is the last time ANYONE came after one of our football coaches?
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 27, 2025, 12:49 PMIn all honesty, the Nimrod comment was in reference to the theory that Nimrod was the name the Hebrews gave to Gilgamesh.
Carry on.
Golesh has a WR on his roster at USF named Nimrod. From Bentonville.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 27, 2025, 01:33 PMI have said it before and will say it again. Most will disagree and that's OK. If we want to either be a bottom feeder or middle of the pack, stay in the SEC. If we want to win championships, go to another conference. And I am NOT advocating us leaving the SEC. Just saying there is no reason to get our hopes up to probably ever winning another championship in football in the SEC. We are the red headed stepchild of the SEC. Vandy, S. Carolina, Kentucky...all have surpassed us. And we continually slide to the bottom. Hell, even the Mississippi schools have gotten better. So, may as well cool your jets and accept what we are. We are either a place for coaches to come and get their retirement checks, or a stepping stone where coaches are switched out every 4-5 years. When is the last time ANYONE came after one of our football coaches?
Agree from a football standpoint. I don't think we will ever reach a consistent competitive level in the SEC.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 27, 2025, 01:34 PMGolesh has a WR on his roster at USF named Nimrod. From Bentonville.
There ya go
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 01:30 PMWe forgot to ask what Wally thinks
https://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1993914536215142651?s=20
Go make a toy, you retarded little elf
I don't give a fuck who they hire, as long as they are given the money and resources to win. This whole "If they don't hire my guy then I'm gonna throw a temper tantrum" ain't a good look, hoss.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 01:30 PMWe forgot to ask what Wally thinks
https://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1993914536215142651?s=20
I am disappoint. Not a single simile in that entire post.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 27, 2025, 01:59 PMI don't give a fuck who they hire, as long as they are given the money and resources to win. This whole "If they don't hire my guy then I'm gonna throw a temper tantrum" ain't a good look, hoss.
This 100%. I definitely want BP but I'll be ready no matter who they hire.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 27, 2025, 01:59 PMI am disappoint. Not a single simile in that entire post.
I'm impressed.
He squeezed the whole tweet into one paragraph.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 01:30 PMWe forgot to ask what Wally thinks
https://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1993914536215142651?s=20
That's cute. This job is all about a money grab. Come get the shit kicked out of you for four years,sprinkle some Sexton in there, and bank millions. He hasn't been paying attention.
The ole we shouldn't have to compete for coaches in order to be competitive approach. Bold strategy cotton
https://x.com/ClintStoerner/status/1993758720644321556
Captain Obvious has entered the chat.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 27, 2025, 02:03 PMThat's cute. This job is all about a money grab. Come get the shit kicked out of you for four years,sprinkle some Sexton in there, and bank millions. He hasn't been paying attention.
Exactly.
So, HY still has a job? Just checking.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 27, 2025, 02:14 PMhttps://x.com/ClintStoerner/status/1993758720644321556
Captain Obvious has entered the chat.
To be fair, he was concussed a lot.
I'm sure Walmart gave a few dollars for this.
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Quote from: TC on Nov 27, 2025, 11:39 AMUpper half of the pack in Offense in the SEC, dead last in Defense in the SEC. "BUT Ranndy he warshed up!!" So the answer is a guy who's 0-3 against Memphis.
Congrats! At least we're the current leader in the clubhouse for the dumbest administration in the SEC.
He has more SEC wins than we do this year.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 27, 2025, 04:14 PMHe has more SEC wins than we do this year.
Yeah, but does he have as many almost wins...
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 27, 2025, 04:14 PMHe has more SEC wins than we do this year.
He's also a whipping 13-10 in 3 years in the AAC.
Really aiming for the stars there, bro.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 27, 2025, 04:16 PMYeah, but does he have as many almost wins...
The thing is I think we want to get away from the coaches that find ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Personally I think it's some kind of viral condition. It has to be...we're flipping our roster and coaching staffs nearly every year or two and still we manage to find ways to lose games in astounding fashion
https://x.com/TKras/status/1993841176529809659?s=20
I am a 110% BMFP guy! He was my first choice going into this coaching search. If we are honest with each other, could he put a good staff together? Probaly not! Nobody wants to work for him, he is not a younger coach that understands/plays the the portal. He only has a few years of coaching ahead of him.
The chance to hire Golesh kind of excites me, sounds like a younger version of Petrino, great offensive mind, first guy to work and the last guy to leave everyday, full of piss and vinegar!
We are bitching about him being hired at this point, I hope we actually get him! We will probaly end up hiring the Dumas Bobcats High School Coach, because, We Are Arkansas!
We can fuck up more than anyone when it comes to these situations! FMR
So, who sabotaged the deal with the leak? I don't keep up with any celebrities, much less local ones. Who does the Buzz guy know that would be privy to details to leak and what motive did he have? Either way, find that guy and launch him into the sun.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 06:37 PMSo, who sabotaged the deal with the leak? I don't keep up with any celebrities, much less local ones. Who does the Buzz guy know that would be privy to details to leak and what motive did he have? Either way, find that guy and launch him into the sun.
Maybe someone that looked like an idiot during the playoff show the previous night. 6?7?
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 06:37 PMSo, who sabotaged the deal with the leak? I don't keep up with any celebrities, much less local ones. Who does the Buzz guy know that would be privy to details to leak and what motive did he have? Either way, find that guy and launch him into the sun.
I think the plausible working theory is it was Frank Fletcher who had Petrino's dick down his throat.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 27, 2025, 12:43 PMHe was on a list of Ashley Madison members when that scandal broke a few years ago. He was also married at the time.
That list sent shockwaves through LR. I know a guy his young son was on there...and he wasn't even married. Respect the hustle I guess.
How does okie fucking Lite lock in their head coach , who still has an outside shot at CFP, and we can't lock up our guy that's striving for the Boca fucking Raton bowl. Hey. We're okay, we have a memorandum of understanding. Who the fuck has ever heard of that?!?
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 27, 2025, 06:51 PMHow does okie fucking Lite lock in their head coach , who still has an outside shot at CFP, and we can't lock up our guy that's striving for the Boca fucking Raton bowl. Hey. We're okay, we have a memorandum of understanding. Who the fuck has ever heard of that?!?
What? A signed memorandum is standard on any business deal.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 27, 2025, 06:51 PMHow does okie fucking Lite lock in their head coach , who still has an outside shot at CFP, and we can't lock up our guy that's striving for the Boca fucking Raton bowl. Hey. We're okay, we have a memorandum of understanding. Who the fuck has ever heard of that?!?
To be fair, we offered Morris also.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 27, 2025, 06:56 PMTo be fair, we offered Morris also.
Yeah that's not making me feel any better about our situation.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 06:54 PMWhat? A signed memorandum is standard on any business deal.
Maybe so. I have no idea nor ever heard of this during a coaching search until yesterday. Never heard okie state have a memorandum of understanding for Morris nor one with va tech for Franklin. Not saying there wasn't, but all you hear is they hired their coach. With Arkansas, we have the memorandum of understanding that I'll take your job if nobody offers me more by this weekend.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 06:48 PMThat list sent shockwaves through LR. I know a guy his young son was on there...and he wasn't even married. Respect the hustle I guess.
I had a relative (single) on there. Knew at least one married preacher on there too.
got dam. nothing can be said officially until the bot meets. anything in writing before then is subject to foai and then you have real problems.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2025, 06:46 PMI think the plausible working theory is it was Frank Fletcher who had Petrino's dick down his throat.
this.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2025, 06:19 PMhttps://x.com/TKras/status/1993841176529809659?s=20
Their media makes our look like a Mensa meeting.
Golesh isn't staying at USF.
yeah, the idea that they can match any sec team in salary and resources is fantasy.
if not at arkansas he'll be in the sec next season.
I'm not buying we had standing offers to Morris and Golesh. That doesn't make any sense. There's always a hierarchy.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 07:15 PMI'm not buying we had standing offers to Morris and Golesh. That doesn't make any sense. There's always a hierarchy.
Of course there was:
1. Franklin
2. Morris
3. Golesh
Stay tuned for 4 thru 6
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 27, 2025, 06:51 PMwe have a memorandum of understanding. Who the fuck has ever heard of that?!?
I don't think we even have that. We tried to get one but I haven't seen any indication that it was signed.
Nah, I don't think we offered Morris.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 27, 2025, 07:19 PMI don't think we even have that. We tried to get one but I haven't seen any indication that it was signed.
I've seen an "agreement in principle" which could be almost anything or nothing. I'm thinking he just wanted to wait. If he really wants the job, it getting leaked is not going mad enough to turn it down.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 06:37 PMSo, who sabotaged the deal with the leak? I don't keep up with any celebrities, much less local ones. Who does the Buzz guy know that would be privy to details to leak and what motive did he have? Either way, find that guy and launch him into the sun.
If it is like the last coaching search, which I don't know why it wouldn't be, there are three people who know what is going on regarding the coaching search. HY, John Fagg, and Steve Cox.
Jump to the last 30 seconds and HY addressed the very question everyone seems to think is unanswerable.
Perhaps the interviewee is the one who leaked it.
Maybe we have a pinky promise.
I think Morris was probably #3 and found out he's #3 and OK Lite said take it or fuck on off.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2025, 06:46 PMI think the plausible working theory is it was Frank Fletcher who had Petrino's dick down his throat.
Could be. It also could be someone who wants Wommack and is trying to blow this up. We obviously have people that care more about getting their way than winning.
The thought just occurred to me that Petrino may have taken himself out of consideration prematurely. Now, you can't fall back and hire him without really looking pathetic. Damn, we are cursed.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 07:52 PMThe thought just occurred to me that Petrino may have taken himself out of consideration prematurely. Now, you can't fall back and hire him without really looking pathetic. Damn, we are cursed.
Could have been his way to put pressure on the university while also publicly advertising his availability. Bro might be mad that he's been at the helm for two months and we're looking everywhere else for a head coach except for right at him.
I love Arkansas coaching searches. They're as exciting as lancing a hemorrhoid.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 07:52 PMThe thought just occurred to me that Petrino may have taken himself out of consideration prematurely. Now, you can't fall back and hire him without really looking pathetic. Damn, we are cursed.
He did leave himself a little wiggle room.
"Whatever the future holds, I'll always be grateful for the opportunity to lead this team again and be a part of the Arkansas community once more. From my family to yours, I wish everyone a safe and blessed Thanksgiving.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 27, 2025, 08:25 PMHe did leave himself a little wiggle room.
"Whatever the future holds, I'll always be grateful for the opportunity to lead this team again and be a part of the Arkansas community once more. From my family to yours, I wish everyone a safe and blessed Thanksgiving.
He knows Heresyourcheck is a slapdick.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2025, 07:52 PMThe thought just occurred to me that Petrino may have taken himself out of consideration prematurely. Now, you can't fall back and hire him without really looking pathetic. Damn, we are cursed.
He talked like a beaten man in that last presser.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 27, 2025, 09:28 PMHe talked like a beaten man in that last presser.
He did. He also was a lot more open on how difficult the task has been and shared insights as to who is responsible. I doubt Sam sends him a Christmas card.
Memphis lost to Navy. Silverfeld now becomes a real possibility.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 27, 2025, 09:36 PMMemphis lost to Navy. Silverfeld now becomes a real possibility.
We can see if Memphis cuts him and maybe he clears waivers.
And Golesh lost to Navy (twice).
Hire the Navy coach?
Quote from: PorkyPig on Nov 27, 2025, 09:47 PMAnd Golesh lost to Navy (twice).
Hire the Navy coach?
They hung 70 on Chad and we still hired him.
Yurachek is not good at his job. It's very obvious to me.
We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only. People who give a shit.
I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMYurachek is not good at his job. It's very obvious to me.
We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only. People who give a shit.
I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.
You ain't wrong.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 10:01 PMThey hung 70 on Chad and we still hired him.
I will die if we hire another Temu Chad
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 27, 2025, 11:15 PMI will die if we hire another Temu Chad
Well at least Golesh won 22 (22-15) games in 3 years versus Chuds 14 (14-23) in the same time frame in the AAC. That's 8 more wins!
Oh wait, Golesh probably beats powerhouse Rice Saturday to move him up to 23 wins. Tune in Sunday evening when we shock the football world and steal him away from South Florida!
Quote from: egregious on Nov 27, 2025, 10:48 PMYes
Could it be any worse?
The first law of the universe is that things can always get worse.
Quote from: egregious on Nov 27, 2025, 10:48 PMYes
Could it be any worse?
Universe : "Hold my beer"
I really cannot grasp the logic our PTB are using. Which tells me it is, in fact, irrationality that is reining supreme up there.
It makes sense to check the market and understand all of your options. You then perform a risk analysis for each option, a cost / benefit analysis, and then weigh those outcomes across your 5 and 10 year plans and determine the feasibility of reaching your long term goal with each of those options. If any check out, then that is your answer. If the CBA shows high viability for one of the options, but it doesn't align with the current plan, you can then look into modifying your strategy so that that option could work.
That all said, we seem to be ignoring risks and costs and strategy entirely, and just going after a new hire... to have a new hire. Which, given the current market, means very high costs, and both high risk of NOT getting the best option (due to competition), over paying for any option, and of course the high risk of the option not working out. From a business perspective and a likelihood of success perspective... this is about as rational as woman prattle.
Let's say the choice is really down to Golesh. What are the pros? New coach, up and comer, could be lightning in a bottle. What are the risks? His offense likely won't work in the SEC, he has no P5 HC experience (let alone SEC or Big 10), no idea what kind of staff he can put together, his current defense is about as bad as ours - and that is in the AAC, I doubt this hire gets the money people excited enough to dump in NIL.
IF we are going the route of a new coach, that isn't a big get like Cignetti or Franklin (though I don't like the Franklin hire due to his record vs ranked), then I think our best bet is to get a defensive minded coach like Wommack and do our damnedest to retain Bobby as OC and associate HC or some such. I mean, if we're going to take the risks and pay out, we may as well go with a route that is more likely to be successful.
I don't think anyone up their truly believes or is committed enough to really put together long term sustained winning for the football program so it becomes a question of marketability. They aren't concerning themselves with winning they are concerning themselves with retaining and attracting customers. So you plug in a new face and hope for the best and give him subpar support, admit to it upon his firing in 5 years, wash rinse and repeat.
The only way any of that changes is with real commitment from the top on down. Ole Miss is the program we wish we could be but aren't because its easier to play aah shucks then it is to put together a list of excellence pissers who probably aren't eating catfish off diddy's plate.
Quote from: passed on Nov 28, 2025, 06:15 AMI really cannot grasp the logic our PTB are using. Which tells me it is, in fact, irrationality that is reining supreme up there.
It makes sense to check the market and understand all of your options. You then perform a risk analysis for each option, a cost / benefit analysis, and then weigh those outcomes across your 5 and 10 year plans and determine the feasibility of reaching your long term goal with each of those options. If any check out, then that is your answer. If the CBA shows high viability for one of the options, but it doesn't align with the current plan, you can then look into modifying your strategy so that that option could work.
That all said, we seem to be ignoring risks and costs and strategy entirely, and just going after a new hire... to have a new hire. Which, given the current market, means very high costs, and both high risk of NOT getting the best option (due to competition), over paying for any option, and of course the high risk of the option not working out. From a business perspective and a likelihood of success perspective... this is about as rational as woman prattle.
Let's say the choice is really down to Golesh. What are the pros? New coach, up and comer, could be lightning in a bottle. What are the risks? His offense likely won't work in the SEC, he has no P5 HC experience (let alone SEC or Big 10), no idea what kind of staff he can put together, his current defense is about as bad as ours - and that is in the AAC, I doubt this hire gets the money people excited enough to dump in NIL.
IF we are going the route of a new coach, that isn't a big get like Cignetti or Franklin (though I don't like the Franklin hire due to his record vs ranked), then I think our best bet is to get a defensive minded coach like Wommack and do our damnedest to retain Bobby as OC and associate HC or some such. I mean, if we're going to take the risks and pay out, we may as well go with a route that is more likely to be successful.
What is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess? Coaching over scheme every time. He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing. Yardage doesn't win games. Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games. Bobby had sucked at that. With his players. He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions. Terrible game awareness. A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week. I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is. Shit. And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.
All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk. Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 07:38 AMWhat is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess? Coaching over scheme every time. He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing. Yardage doesn't win games. Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games. Bobby had sucked at that. With his players. He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions. Terrible game awareness. A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week. I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is. Shit. And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.
All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk. Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him.
Bobby is absolutely washed at this point. People here still think he may be a candidate for HC. Wtf.
I'm a big Bobby fan and wanted to see it work out for him. The plain truth of the matter is the guy is showing his age and if we're really being honest he aint been shit since just after Lamar Jackson left town. Yes it's nice seeing some of those hallmark plays work but it takes more than a few witty play calls to win games. It's also true that the roster makeup of this team is not entirely on his head and that this season was always going to be unfair to him. He was always going to be the interim head coach it was just a matter of time before that happened. Bottom line is we would have won games if the defense wasn't legendarily awful but the same could have been said for Sam as well. Bobby kept it all in the moral victory category but we just didn't have the difference makers when it mattered and that goes for the coaching staff as well.
My biggest bitch about Bobby as I've mentioned various times is his unwillingness to play another QB. I understood it up to a point but at some level you have to hold someone accountable and the QB would have been a great place to start. We should have seen a lot more of KJ Jackson and treated this season like a "development" year after it was clear we weren't going to a bowl game. Now we've created two things...1. if KJ plays a lot or all snaps against Missouri it gives us a good snap shot but not a long term snap shot. Maybe just enough to get his dollas up but not enough for Arkansas to drop it's panties for him under the new head coach. This may have been by design...2. I won't be shocked if BP is at Auburn or somewhere else next season and KJ Jackson is supposedly his new hotness qb and this time he's got a good defense.
Keeping Sam on this year and bringing in Bobby tells you everything you need to know about this program and the people running it. I don't have any expectations at all going forward. I don't think HY is serious about our program or he would have fired Sam Pittman after last season before that day fuck sat at the press conference at the beginning of this season and lied
To our faces about what a fucking great team we have and how awesome we would be.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2025, 08:10 AMMy biggest bitch about Bobby as I've mentioned various times is his unwillingness to play another QB. I understood it up to a point but at some level you have to hold someone accountable and the QB would have been a great place to start. We should have seen a lot more of KJ Jackson and treated this season like a "development" year after it was clear we weren't going to a bowl game.
If Bobby had known the job was his he might have said fuck and done just that to prepare for next season. I've lost track of how many times Green has looked straight at open receivers downfield just to pull it and toss to the flat. I've also lost track of how many times he's turned shitty protection into 20 yard gains.
It amuses me seeing posts about the logic of the PTB. Especially when it comes to football, when is the last time they did anything logical... December 10, 2007?
Jessie Minter (Michigan DC) I think has some loose ties to the state...think he was born in LR but didn't live in the state much past early childhood.
So that makes him highly qualified
Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMYurachek is not good at his job. It's very obvious to me.
We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only. People who give a shit.
I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.
I have no idea why he is still here
Passed on kiffen and drink. Yes they would have fleeced us but they're successful and success solves all problems.
Hired Sam. Extended Sam. Fired Sam too late.
Football game day experience sucks and compares poorly to our competitors.
Football NIL was and is a disaster
Gaffes on the state of the football program that would make no coach want to come here.
Now the golesh leak makes us look more clownshoes.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2025, 08:30 AMI have no idea why he is still here
Passed on kiffen and drink. Yes they would have fleeced us but they're successful and success solves all problems.
Hired Sam. Extended Sam. Fired Sam too late.
Football game day experience sucks and compares poorly to our competitors.
Football NIL was and is a disaster
Gaffes on the state of the football program that would make no coach want to come here.
Now the golesh leak makes us look more clownshoes.
is he even around and doing his job considering he's occupied with the college playoff crap? He can eat a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned.
Well at least LSU is a more publicized clown program for now anyway.
C:-)
It sure would be nice to snag someone so we could completely enjoy them.
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994385910356455694?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Don't know who the fuck this guy is but seems on point
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994385910356455694?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Wommack might turn out to be a great hire. Kirby wasn't any more than a DC when he took the UGA job and now look at him. Counter-argument... Will Muschamp was just a DC when he took the Florida job. Point is no one is going to be excited about him until he starts winning games.
:maundoed:
"we'll be bad for all of eternity"
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2025, 08:41 AMhttps://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994385910356455694?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Don't know who the fuck this guy is but seems on point
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994385910356455694?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 27, 2025, 07:23 PM
If it is like the last coaching search, which I don't know why it wouldn't be, there are three people who know what is going on regarding the coaching search. HY, John Fagg, and Steve Cox.
Jump to the last 30 seconds and HY addressed the very question everyone seems to think is unanswerable.
Perhaps the interviewee is the one who leaked it.
I've already scooped this story.
anyone that has news to break or hard hitting takes from the back seat of his car is someone you need to listen to.
Warming up to wommack. Need a culture change. Finally have a team that can play soumd defense, have discipline, and stops throwing it to the other damn team.
For OC, retain bobby if all possible or go after a heupel disciple
"UNIVERSE...GIVE US A SIGN." The sign...
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Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMYurachek is not good at his job. It's very obvious to me.
We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only. People who give a shit.
I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.
JFB left long before he actually left. The only person who has really been in charge since his senility hit in was Bobby from 2008-2011. That asswipe Jeff Long was jealous and fired him at the first opportunity that presented itself.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2025, 08:41 AMhttps://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994385910356455694?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Is that guy living out of his car?
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 28, 2025, 08:56 AManyone that has news to break or hard hitting takes from the back seat of his car is someone you need to listen to.
Especially if it's a Kia.
For those advocating for a defense minded coach, there is a reason why we are always bad defensively and coaching ain't that reason.
There are a lot more skill position players out there than thick, athletic defensive linemen and linebackers. You can get enough fast guys to score points. To win with defense you have to have dudes. We are always going to be somewhere between 8th and 16th in the pecking order for those guys.
Bobby realized this, both in his first tenure and when lobbying for NIL spending for his side of the ball for a this year.
So much Dunning Kruger in our fanbase.
I wish there was a way to ban stupid people from the internet.
None of these slapdicks know anything and most of them look like they need a shower.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 28, 2025, 09:09 AMIs that guy living out of his car?
thats the biggest response under his post lol
The point is moot now but I don't buy the "Bobby is washed up" narrative. No unbiased observer could truthfully argue that he has been given a fair chance to audition for the HC position. A broken team with a 2-3 record and a bottom tier defense was dropped in his lap with the meat of the conference schedule looming and he was essentially told "fix this unfixable mess and we might give you a shot". It is a miracle he has been able to get the team to remain bought-in so far, let alone the fact that he has had the Hogs within 3 points of a win/tie against 4 (including 2 top-20 teams) of the 6 conference games played so far.
Questions regarding the continued tolerance of TG's Jekyll/Hyde performances, the inability of his offense to score when necessary to win, the third quarter offensive no-shows and the lopsided turnover margins are all valid; however, it is also valid to consider that Petrino has had seven weeks and six games to run this team and his offense free of interference from Sam and/or other staff.
Considering the giant cow patty of a conference-wide coaching arms race we now seem determined to step in, it seems to me the more prudent course of action would have been to give BP another Spring, Summer and Fall to instill the culture and attention to detail his teams are known for and see if the "old" BMFP is still in there and, if so, will that style of coaching be successful in today's environment.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 28, 2025, 09:09 AMIs that guy living out of his car?
Down by the river, I bet.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1994409295807471958
HY: "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?"
Candidate: "Hopefully having one 8-win year in the interim and getting fired from here with a hefty buyout."
HY: "Welcome aboard."
Didn't ferret top say Mullen wanted our our job bad? ::)
If we're offering 7 mil it wouldn't surprise me if he waits to see if Florida or Ole Miss offer.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 28, 2025, 09:12 AMSo much Dunning Kruger in our fanbase.
I wish there was a way to ban stupid people from the internet.
None of these slapdicks know anything and most of them look like they need a shower.
I expect Ozzy's next tweet will be to announce his GoFundMe to finance that deposit on his new bachelor pad/communications center in the Links at Springdale.
Lolz
What a fucking pussy
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2025, 09:30 AMIf we're offering 7 mil it wouldn't surprise me if he waits to see if Florida or Ole Miss offer.
florida really thinks they are getting kiffin, if not they say they will outbid auburn for sumrall. and golesh isn't even on ole miss's radar it seems.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2025, 09:12 AMFor those advocating for a defense minded coach, there is a reason why we are always bad defensively and coaching ain't that reason.
There are a lot more skill position players out there than thick, athletic defensive linemen and linebackers. You can get enough fast guys to score points. To win with defense you have to have dudes. We are always going to be somewhere between 8th and 16th in the pecking order for those guys.
Bobby realized this, both in his first tenure and when lobbying for NIL spending for his side of the ball for a this year.
Yep. There's a reason you don't see defenses like Bama/LSU 2010 anymore. It's an offensive game today and you better be able to score 30+. Now, you can't be abysmal on defense but you don't have to be a defense first team to win. Honestly don't think approach can win today.
Guess you could say OU is the closest team built that way today.
goes a ways back to when high school coaches figured out they could put the best players on offense, best athlete at qb, and win more games. hard to convince a kid nowadays to play defense.
On my point, it's easier to find a good OC nowadays. Arkansas will never have a consistently elite defense , but a consistently average one paired with the right guy at OC might be enough to get us playing at a high level.
Sure, coaches are stubborn. It could turn out like muschamp but also like Napier just as well.
Football never really changes and it always boils down to the big uglies.
Turnovers, blown assignments and special team heroics will play their parts but a team that can consistently stay ahead of the chains running the ball will win more times than not just as a team that can consistently stop the run will do the same.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 27, 2025, 10:51 AMStephens is one of the largest privately owned investment banks in the United States but, other than Kevin Scanlon, I never seem to hear much about them vis a vis relationship with/support of Razorback athletics.
Bad blood, or am I just unaware of their support?
Warren Stephens was big on keeping games at WMS. Now he's enjoying tea and strumpets and has no fucks left to give.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 28, 2025, 09:53 AMFootball never really changes and it always boils down to the big uglies.
Turnovers, blown assignments and special team heroics will play their parts but a team that can consistently stay ahead of the chains running the ball will win more times than not just as a team that can consistently stop the run will do the same.
Yeah, you don't have to have an elite defense but you better have a damn good line. On both sides of the ball. Makes everyone around them better.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMI hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.
This is spot on. In building the program, he cared about the fans and giving them a team they wanted to see. Fans were invested in the team in a huge way. I remember growing up when there were 3 TV stations if you walked down our street on a Saturday during a game all you could hear were radios broadcasting the game. Today's fans are a different breed. It's more of a social thing. Dress up and go to the game, who really cares if we win or lose. Fans have shown they'll give up their money no matter what. So the PTB do whatever they want. Do you think if we won a big away game fans would mob the airport to greet the team when their plane landed?
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2025, 08:24 AMJessie Minter (Michigan DC) I think has some loose ties to the state...think he was born in LR but didn't live in the state much past early childhood.
So that makes him highly qualified
I think he grew up in Texarkana. May have been the Texas side, but that doesn't make much difference down here.
Golesh is 0-2 against Memphis. He should fit right in.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 28, 2025, 11:27 AMGolesh is 0-2 against Memphis. He should fit right in.
Hiring coaches that routinely get beaten by Memphis is just what we do
Just looked up and posted in the other thread that we are 2-4 against Memphis since '92. That is unfathomable. With only ONE game played in Fayetteville.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 11:42 AMJust looked up and posted in the other thread that we are 2-4 against Memphis since '92. That is unfathomable. With only ONE game played in Fayetteville.
So not even that extra little advantage was enough to help us out?
We need more heppin'.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 11:47 AMWe need more heppin'.
A Vice Chancellor of Athletic Directoring that loves the helmet?
Quote from: FNG on Nov 28, 2025, 09:17 AMThe point is moot now but I don't buy the "Bobby is washed up" narrative. No unbiased observer could truthfully argue that he has been given a fair chance to audition for the HC position. A broken team with a 2-3 record and a bottom tier defense was dropped in his lap with the meat of the conference schedule looming and he was essentially told "fix this unfixable mess and we might give you a shot". It is a miracle he has been able to get the team to remain bought-in so far, let alone the fact that he has had the Hogs within 3 points of a win/tie against 4 (including 2 top-20 teams) of the 6 conference games played so far.
Questions regarding the continued tolerance of TG's Jekyll/Hyde performances, the inability of his offense to score when necessary to win, the third quarter offensive no-shows and the lopsided turnover margins are all valid; however, it is also valid to consider that Petrino has had seven weeks and six games to run this team and his offense free of interference from Sam and/or other staff.
Considering the giant cow patty of a conference-wide coaching arms race we now seem determined to step in, it seems to me the more prudent course of action would have been to give BP another Spring, Summer and Fall to instill the culture and attention to detail his teams are known for and see if the "old" BMFP is still in there and, if so, will that style of coaching be successful in today's environment.
So you're talking about giving him a one-year contract?
He might actually go for that but it's an odd message to send.
I think he's saying that should have been the course back in September. "Hey, Bobby, we want you to finish out this season and coach next season at least. Here's a 3-year contract offer."
Us being us, we didn't do that and then we wasted our head start in the coaching search. The sky is falling until it isn't.
Florida has zeroed in on Sumrall.
Florida, LSU, and any other team that is looked on as a better program than ours, will have their coach before we will. We will end up with the leftovers, as usual.
We should have fired Pittman last year and spared us this season but like always we have to approach our coach's with kid gloves and because they are nice let them stick around a little longer and that is what's killing us. Why HY thought keeping Sam around another year was a good idea I have no idea. How the fuck going into this season did they think our DC staff was capable of us being ranked. Remember how Pittman said we should have been ranked at the beginning of the season and he would prove us all wrong? That fat fuck is mentally ill
Quote from: HTL on Nov 28, 2025, 12:09 PMFlorida has zeroed in on Sumrall.
You'd think they'd learned their lesson on hiring G5 coaches from Louisiana. I don't see him as a better option than Golesh. Equal.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2025, 11:54 AMA Vice Chancellor of Athletic Directoring that loves the helmet?
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Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2025, 12:13 PMWe should have fired Pittman last year and spared us this season but like always we have to approach our coach's with kid gloves and because they are nice let them stick around a little longer and that is what's killing us. Why HY thought keeping Sam around another year was a good idea I have no idea. How the fuck going into this season did they think our DC staff was capable of us being ranked. Remember how Pittman said we should have been ranked at the beginning of the season and he would prove us all wrong? That fat fuck is mentally ill
Better yet, Pittman was very unhealthy and needed hip surgery. We were at least 6-6 and in a bowl game. Let him step down due to health and negotiate a buyout.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 12:16 PMYou'd think they'd learned their lesson on hiring G5 coaches from Louisiana. I don't see him as a better option than Golesh. Equal.
He's done good at Tulane but it's not like Willie Fritz won a Cotton Bowl there two years before Sumrall took over or anything.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 12:19 PMBetter yet, Pittman was very unhealthy and needed hip surgery. We were at least 6-6 and in a bowl game. Let him step down due to health and negotiate a buyout.
he was delusional and I'm almost positive telling HY how great we would be this year and he believed the lie. How you had a defensive staff that bad going into the season and didn't make changes tells me everything about Sam. He sucks ay coaching
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2025, 12:21 PMHe's done good at Tulane but it's not like Willie Fritz won a Cotton Bowl there two years before Sumrall took over or anything.
He definitely walked into a great situation.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 12:16 PMYou'd think they'd learned their lesson on hiring G5 coaches from Louisiana. I don't see him as a better option than Golesh. Equal.
Worse. He allows Joe fucking Craddock of Left Lane, Hammer Down infamy to call plays and run his offense.
If Florida hires him they'll be pining for the glory days of the Dan Mullen era within a year or two.
That hire can't make the UF fanbase happy. There's just not many great candidates out there.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2025, 12:21 PMhe was delusional and I'm almost positive telling HY how great we would be this year and he believed the lie. How you had a defensive staff that bad going into the season and didn't make changes tells me everything about Sam. He sucks ay coaching
HY and Pittman were smart enough to know the fanbase was irate until Petrino announced coming back as OC and that made a lot of us able to stomach another year.
It's the AD's job to know when it's time to move on rather than make a move like that.
You would think schools would wake up and quit giving a coach a huge raise and new contract with huge buyout, after one good season. If the coach wants to leave after that season, let another team have him. I wonder how Vandy is going to do after their QB is gone. OM probably offering Kiffin something they think he can't refuse. Fuck these guys. Let them leave. Why should the school go into that much debt to retain someone who could leave next season.
Duckman having a rough Turkey week
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994445015397941551?t=qFDnlxkVnMDG4YT6sJFciQ&s=19 (https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994445015397941551?t=qFDnlxkVnMDG4YT6sJFciQ&s=19)
Other than Bobby, we have never given a raise and an extension to a coach the ended up earning his new salary. They always end up getting canned and leaving the program worse than how he found it.
So yeah: Stop giving raises and extensions after a year. If the coach leaves, so be it. We'll hire another. He'll have his one good year and leave and we'll hire another.
Same results but with far less money spent.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 01:01 PMDuckman having a rough Turkey week
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994445015397941551?t=qFDnlxkVnMDG4YT6sJFciQ&s=19 (https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994445015397941551?t=qFDnlxkVnMDG4YT6sJFciQ&s=19)
lol. dude said gruden was in the bag but arkansas wouldn't pay him the money he wanted.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 07:38 AMWhat is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess? Coaching over scheme every time. He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing. Yardage doesn't win games. Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games. Bobby had sucked at that. With his players. He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions. Terrible game awareness. A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week. I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is. Shit. And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.
All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk. Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him.
I don't think the second half woes are a valid critique in this case. If you watch the tape and the myriad film breakdowns, the plays are there... the issue is that in the second half the defenses pressure TG more, realizing that he gets frazzled easily and starts making bad decisions. It's consistent. Each time TG starts feeling more pressure he regresses. Reads and throws he has made many times before he suddenly doesn't... and holds the ball too long. A fair critique may be that he should have benched TG for KJ Jackson, and maybe that is correct. I don't think we've seen enough of him to know. My guess is, like FNG has said several times, Bobby felt TG was the best chance at success. Bobby sees practice and knows who knows the playbook. It COULD be that he was being stubborn (as he's known to do) and played his guy not wanting to undermine confidence. It COULD also be that TG was the best chance to win. We don't know, but that is a fair critique.
I'll allow that some of the clock management in a few games was highly suspect. That's fair. I don't mind the going for it on 4th down aggression. We'd be bitching if he didn't and just punted / settled for the FG and still lost by 3.
Lots of coaches take the title stuff... all across the industry and even at UofA. To say it doesn't work is just silly. It's a title. Will it happen here? Most likely not. I was simply saying from a risk analysis standpoint and for the value proposition, it would make some sense if we're getting an unproven commodity. Having BP as an OC mitigates risk, since he has plenty of HC experience both in SEC and outside, as well as plenty of coordinator experience IN the SEC. That's a benefit to a HC that doesn't.
I get that you're pissed, we all are. However, let's not let emotionality make decisions when rationality and logic produce better results. We're a message board... not the UofA BOT. We actually CAN make rational decisions.
+1
I don't know that anyone has ever claimed to know more, while actually knowing less, than Scott "Duckman" Biles
He thinks his wife will finally respect him if he looks like he has insider information to the football team.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 07:38 AMWhat is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess? Coaching over scheme every time. He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing. Yardage doesn't win games. Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games. Bobby had sucked at that. With his players. He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions. Terrible game awareness. A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week. I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is. Shit. And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.
All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk. Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him.
Why the fuck are you talking about yardage like we haven't scored points? We are SECOND IN THE SEC IN SCORING IN SEC GAMES, AGAINST SEC TEAMS. All the other stuff might be legit, but we fucking score points. The problem is we give up a metric fuckload of points.
As for Penalties, outside of one game where we got fucked by the refs worse than any razorback game this century, we were in the top 4-5 least penalized teams in the conference.
Again, you can not like the guy, but you don't have to be a retard about it.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2025, 01:20 PMHe thinks his wife will finally respect him if he looks like he has insider information to the football team.
I'm about to pull up to his RV place and fuck with him.
Wrll said passed. Thats my sentiment as well.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 28, 2025, 11:27 AMGolesh is 0-2 against Memphis. He should fit right in.
He's 0-3 against Memphis.
No idea who this guy is.
https://x.com/RiseNDraft/status/1994479257150787840?t=cA4cdlOx4g-9mkDYYE2MrA&s=19 (https://x.com/RiseNDraft/status/1994479257150787840?t=cA4cdlOx4g-9mkDYYE2MrA&s=19)
We need someone who can beat SMU Memphis!
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 02:45 PMNo idea who this guy is.
https://x.com/RiseNDraft/status/1994479257150787840?t=cA4cdlOx4g-9mkDYYE2MrA&s=19 (https://x.com/RiseNDraft/status/1994479257150787840?t=cA4cdlOx4g-9mkDYYE2MrA&s=19)
We're going to hire Taylor Swift or Miley Cyrus.
Dowell loggains or Barry lunney Jr?
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2025, 03:39 PMDowell loggains or Barry lunney Jr?
Loggains has to be on the short list.
If we hire the Russian you know someone is gonna show up at the presser with a Ukraine flag, that would be so Fayetteville
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2025, 03:41 PMLoggains has to be on the short list.
Well played. :thumb_up:
Quote from: Hognrock on Nov 28, 2025, 03:43 PMWell played. :thumb_up:
Short list, short bus, short legs, all in one.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2025, 03:39 PMDowell loggains or Barry lunney Jr?
Robb Smith has put feelers out.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2025, 03:39 PMDowell loggains or Barry lunney Jr?
Chad Powers is available
There ya go....
https://x.com/chrisvannini/status/1994485658921177261?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
https://x.com/otiskirk23/status/1994505440521298419?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/otiskirk23/status/1994505440521298419?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Somebody tell Grit AI will do your editing for you.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 28, 2025, 03:49 PMhttps://x.com/otiskirk23/status/1994505440521298419?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/otiskirk23/status/1994505440521298419?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Somebody tell Grit AI will do your editing for you.
If you start with a lie then there is a good chance you will be proved a liar.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 28, 2025, 01:22 PMWhy the fuck are you talking about yardage like we haven't scored points? We are SECOND IN THE SEC IN SCORING IN SEC GAMES, AGAINST SEC TEAMS. All the other stuff might be legit, but we fucking score points. The problem is we give up a metric fuckload of points.
As for Penalties, outside of one game where we got fucked by the refs worse than any razorback game this century, we were in the top 4-5 least penalized teams in the conference.
Again, you can not like the guy, but you don't have to be a retard about it.
Stats don't win games because we are serious losers. Sucky defense? The play mistake free offense and fucking keep scoring. We give up leads in the 2nd half and games lost in the 4th quarter. Is that dumbassery, or fatigue, or stupidity? All inexcusable. We are 12th in the SEC in penalty yards and penalties, which indicates a shitton of presnap penalties which are inexcusable. We are - 12 in turnover ratio, last in league. With defense we have we have to play mistake free football. To your point in the second half, when we go to shit, if a team starts pressuring green as he sucks with it, then it's up to Bobby to anticipate and fix it and yet it happened every fucking week. You add protection, go play action, run the ball and yet it doesn't happen. Green gets lured into stupidity over and over. Whose fucking fault is that?
As for his game management, just look at Texas game. He doesn't look at various scenarios including eating the clock to keep it away from Tsip. 3 and out. Texas doesn't have to use its time outs, has a short field and gets a FG. Bobby should have figured out a run strategy there where we either move the ball or eat the clock. Horns score on initial possession of 2nd half and were 10 down. Terrible coaching g there.
It's time to move on.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 04:17 PMStats don't win games because we are serious losers. Sucky defense? The play mistake free offense and fucking keep scoring. We give up leads in the 2nd half and games lost in the 4th quarter. Is that dumbassery, or fatigue, or stupidity? All inexcusable. We are 12th in the SEC in penalty yards and penalties, which indicates a shitton of presnap penalties which are inexcusable. We are - 12 in turnover ratio, last in league. With defense we have we have to play mistake free football. To your point in the second half, when we go to shit, if a team starts pressuring green as he sucks with it, then it's up to Bobby to anticipate and fix it and yet it happened every fucking week. You add protection, go play action, run the ball and yet it doesn't happen. Green gets lured into stupidity over and over. Whose fucking fault is that?
As for his game management, just look at Texas game. He doesn't look at various scenarios including eating the clock to keep it away from Tsip. 3 and out. Texas doesn't have to use its time outs, has a short field and gets a FG. Bobby should have figured out a run strategy there where we either move the ball or eat the clock. Horns score on initial possession of 2nd half and were 10 down. Terrible coaching g there.
It's time to move on.
Since we're revisiting history...
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 23, 2025, 12:15 PMWe got the ball at 1:50. We had been hurting them on first down and would've again if the sun didn't get in Sharpe's eyes. If you assume Texas called timeout after the first two plays then after a third down run we'd punt with a minute left? A better punt would've put them back at maybe their own 40 with :50 left.
For the game, they had FOUR touchdown "drives" lasting under three minutes and covering at least 75 yards. Even with no timeouts, you don't think they could've gotten an extra 25 yards for a field goal against our air of a defense?
Our best chance was to try to get a first down and keep the ball away from them.
I agree on the Green stubbornness, but the rest I don't really question.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 28, 2025, 01:16 PMI don't know that anyone has ever claimed to know more, while actually knowing less, than Scott "Duckman" Biles
he blocked me on the twitters lol
Did he at least DM you an updated pic of his wife's tits before banning you? Asking for the board.
Do we not have our woopig corespondents camped out at the airport yet?
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2025, 04:47 PMDo we not have our woopig corespondents camped out at the airport yet?
Seems like after the fiasco the other day our correspondents have waived the white towel. Narry a peep.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2025, 04:41 PMhe blocked me on the twitters lol
If someone sends me the picture I'll slide it into the comments.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 04:17 PMStats don't win games because we are serious losers. Sucky defense? The play mistake free offense and fucking keep scoring. We give up leads in the 2nd half and games lost in the 4th quarter. Is that dumbassery, or fatigue, or stupidity? All inexcusable. We are 12th in the SEC in penalty yards and penalties, which indicates a shitton of presnap penalties which are inexcusable. We are - 12 in turnover ratio, last in league. With defense we have we have to play mistake free football. To your point in the second half, when we go to shit, if a team starts pressuring green as he sucks with it, then it's up to Bobby to anticipate and fix it and yet it happened every fucking week. You add protection, go play action, run the ball and yet it doesn't happen. Green gets lured into stupidity over and over. Whose fucking fault is that?
As for his game management, just look at Texas game. He doesn't look at various scenarios including eating the clock to keep it away from Tsip. 3 and out. Texas doesn't have to use its time outs, has a short field and gets a FG. Bobby should have figured out a run strategy there where we either move the ball or eat the clock. Horns score on initial possession of 2nd half and were 10 down. Terrible coaching g there.
It's time to move on.
So points on the board are now "stats"? We are second in scoring, in SEC games, against SEC teams.
We are 12th in penalties based almost completely on ONE GAME where we got fucked harder than a porn star by the refs and you know it, yet your irrational hatred will ignore that. The rest of the games we average around 4th in the league for penalty yards.
You are so frazzled that 12th in turnover is now last?
So, again, if we have scoring issues and are second in scoring in the league, what do other teams have? Oh, wait, they get to play against our defense.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 28, 2025, 04:58 PMSo points on the board are now "stats"? We are second in scoring, in SEC games, against SEC teams.
We are 12th in penalties based almost completely on ONE GAME where we got fucked harder than a porn star by the refs and you know it, yet your irrational hatred will ignore that. The rest of the games we average around 4th in the league for penalty yards.
You are so frazzled that 12th in turnover is now last?
So, again, if we have scoring issues and are second in scoring in the league, what do other teams have? Oh, wait, they get to play against our defense.
We are a negative-12, which is last place. The vast majority of the deficit is due to one player.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2025, 05:07 PMWe are a negative-12, which is last place. The vast majority of the deficit is due to one player.
Yeah, I read his post wrong, I apologize Tex/TRS for that one, I thought he said we were 12th, in last and not -12, which we are. My bad.
The rest I stand by. Our penalty situation is actually not bad at all outside of the one game that we got completely and totally fucked. We are absolutely in the upper part of the league for least penalized outside of that game, which made that game even more infuriating.
We hsve turned it over 20 times and gotten 8. Add the timing of several of those turnovers and it's infuriating.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 05:12 PMWe hsve turned it over 20 times and gotten 8. Add the timing of several of those turnovers and it's infuriating.
15 of the 20 by the leader of our offense.
We are so bad that we aren't even being mentioned as an opening on College Football Scoreboard. Auburn, LSU, Florida....but not us.
Maybe ESPN knows something we don't.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2025, 06:14 PMMaybe ESPN knows something we don't.
That nobody cares about us? Nevermind, we're aware of that...
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2025, 06:14 PMMaybe ESPN knows something we don't.
Saving the best for last
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 28, 2025, 03:48 PMThere ya go....
https://x.com/chrisvannini/status/1994485658921177261?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
But we have a goddam MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING!!
And his wife's from Arkysaw!
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 28, 2025, 07:32 PMBut we have a goddam MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING!!
And his wife's from Arkysaw!
I know this is half joking or whatever but SAYS WHO?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2025, 05:07 PMWe are a negative-12, which is last place. The vast majority of the deficit is due to one player.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 28, 2025, 05:10 PMYeah, I read his post wrong, I apologize Tex/TRS for that one, I thought he said we were 12th, in last and not -12, which we are. My bad.
The rest I stand by. Our penalty situation is actually not bad at all outside of the one game that we got completely and totally fucked. We are absolutely in the upper part of the league for least penalized outside of that game, which made that game even more infuriating.
He's judged on wins. That's it. If your defense gives up 36, you gotta score 37. We don't. Because we have drives fizzle due to dumb dead all penalties and stupid turnovers. Thats coaching. Same as sticking with Green and not holding him accountable.
I had high hopes for Bobby. I was hoping for a loss to bama A&M to get Sam fired and bmfp in the seat to earn the gig. He has disappointed me in the games since. Some terrible losses. I don't think the money we need will come for him.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 07:44 PMHe's judged on wins. That's it. If your defense gives up 36, you gotta score 37. We don't. Because we have drives fizzle due to dumb dead all penalties and stupid turnovers. Thats coaching. Same as sticking with Green and not holding him accountable.
I had high hopes for Bobby. I was hoping for a loss to bama A&M to get Sam fired and bmfp in the seat to earn the gig. He has disappointed me in the games since. Some terrible losses. I don't think the money we need will come for him.
By and large I agree with your posts but you're wrong here. HRW backed up the argument with the scoring totals. Bobby was nowhere near perfect but Bill Walsh wasn't winning 2 games with this shit platter. You're just wrong on this one. Turnovers were a nightmare bit offense in general isn't the problem.
Yes, I think Bobby would generate more NIL fundaraising than any G5 coach we could hire. We're about to find out and I pray I'm wrong.
Saw someone comment on the facepages.
Remember when Hunter said Slobber Hog would return with x amount of donations.
Do the same with Petrino and watch what happens.
if there was big money behind petrino he would be the coach. let's not act like it's not the boosters that give most of the nil.
I doubt there is a booster heavily backing any of these guys. Just my opinion of course.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 09:45 PMI doubt there is a booster heavily backing any of these guys. Just my opinion of course.
That's my guess right there. I'm sure some people have their favorites that they are pushing for... but I am doubting that any real money was put behind any of them at this point.
a big part of the money for the hire is coming from boosters. since when hasn't it?
We have big money boosters who care more about clout than bettering the program.
They'll put big money behind whoever they like but if that's not so gets hired they won't put up a dime
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 28, 2025, 09:50 PMWe have big money boosters who care more about clout than bettering the program.
They'll put big money behind whoever they like but if that's not so gets hired they won't put up a dime
Our boosters are corporations that are interested in increasing their profits. They know they will get their advertising whether we win or lose.
Quote from: Borenutz on Nov 28, 2025, 09:58 PMOur boosters are corporations that are interested in increasing their profits. They know they will get their advertising whether we win or lose.
He's right you know.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2025, 09:45 PMI doubt there is a booster heavily backing any of these guys. Just my opinion of course.
Correct
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 28, 2025, 09:37 PMBy and large I agree with your posts but you're wrong here. HRW backed up the argument with the scoring totals. Bobby was nowhere near perfect but Bill Walsh wasn't winning 2 games with this shit platter. You're just wrong on this one. Turnovers were a nightmare bit offense in general isn't the problem.
Yes, I think Bobby would generate more NIL fundaraising than any G5 coach we could hire. We're about to find out and I pray I'm wrong.
The grass is almost always almost greener on the other side of the fence
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 28, 2025, 11:53 PMThe grass is almost always almost greener on the other side of the fence
"But He's warshed up, Randy!!"
I had to hear it from my own brother as well while visiting over Thanksgiving, who also parroted that bullshit line that Tex and HTL folks like.
"Our defense did enough to keep us in those close games!"
Just fucking shoot me already.
Quote from: TC link=msg=222789=1764396069"Our defense did enough to keep us in those close games!"
Just fucking shoot me already.
We scored 35 against Ole Miss, 31 against Memphis, 31 against Tennessee, 42 against Aggy, 38 against Mississippi State, 22 against LSU, and 37 against Texas.
If the defense did good enough we would have won at least one of those games. Sorry you're related to retards. I know several of those types as well, and they're living proof that our fanbase doesn't deserve nice things.
https://x.com/adamford92/status/1994592869387206873?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 06:30 AMWe scored 35 against Ole Miss, 31 against Memphis, 31 against Tennessee, 42 against Aggy, 38 against Mississippi State, 22 against LSU, and 37 against Texas.
If the defense did good enough we would have won at least one of those games. Sorry you're related to retards. I know several of those types as well, and they're living proof that our fanbase doesn't deserve nice things.
https://x.com/adamford92/status/1994592869387206873?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Some of those games we shit the bed offensively at exactly the wrong time. Some of those games the offense didn't piss a drop in the 2nd half but we still only lost by a narrow margin.
Absolutely the defense was the Achilles heel of the team but I can't ignore how we kept getting schemed after half time. A lot of that was blamed on conditioning early in the season... true we have no dept. Do other programs trot out a rotation of offensive line guys throughout the game? We are acting as if that happens and it doesn't to that extent.
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2025, 06:38 AMSome of those games we shit the bed offensively at exactly the wrong time. Some of those games the offense didn't piss a drop in the 2nd half but we still only lost by a narrow margin.
Absolutely the defense was the Achilles heel of the team but I can't ignore how we kept getting schemed after half time. A lot of that was blamed on conditioning early in the season... true we have no dept. Do other programs trot out a rotation of offensive line guys throughout the game? We are acting as if that happens and it doesn't to that extent.
I keep seeing things showing that our OLine is graded as one of the highest in the SEC. The issue in the second half isn't usually the protection, it's TG's mental lapse. The plays are there, sure some times the D adjusts and the play wouldn't work... but generally speaking, the plays are there. TG is holding too long, or panics and doesn't hang in and make the throw. The film break downs are pretty eye opening.
wHaT iF tHe OfFeNsE hAd oF...
What if we'd only given up 12 instead of 15 in the second half against Memphis? That's a win. 13 instead of 17 sends Tennessee to OT. 21 instead of 24 sends Aggy to OT. NOT giving up 17 to Auburn just in the fourth quarter. Mississippi State scored 7 in the first half and 31 in the second half, and beat us by 3.
This board has morphed into nobville.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2025, 06:56 AMI keep seeing things showing that our OLine is graded as one of the highest in the SEC. The issue in the second half isn't usually the protection, it's TG's mental lapse. The plays are there, sure some times the D adjusts and the play wouldn't work... but generally speaking, the plays are there. TG is holding too long, or panics and doesn't hang in and make the throw. The film break downs are pretty eye opening.
It's not even worth it to me at this point to read through the game threads for all of the "Taylen had a guy wide open and didn't pull the trigger" comments again. bUt MuH kJ wOuLd HaVe... Idk, how do we know safeties weren't staying home BECAUSE of Taylen's particular run threat? You can't just switch a QB out in hindsight and replay a down in your head, but that's what all the Bobby haters do every fucking time.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 07:04 AMIt's not even worth it to me at this point to read through the game threads for all of the "Taylen had a guy wide open and didn't pull the trigger" comments again. bUt MuH kJ wOuLd HaVe... Idk, how do we know safeties weren't staying home BECAUSE of Taylen's particular run threat? You can't just switch a QB out in hindsight and replay a down in your head, but that's what all the Bobby haters do every fucking time.
100%. We also have no idea if KJ IS the better option. I think it's a fair critique that Bobby didn't give him a shot, given how often TG coughs up the ball and goes full bonehead. However, it's entirely possible, and in fact most likely that TG was the best option, and so Bobby stuck with him. He COULD have just been being stubborn, but Bobby sees practice and film that we don't.
More to the point, though. The utter lack of defense is what cost us, ultimately. The lack of depth there was a fatality in the second half.
Bottom line:
Taylen should have been pulled at segments during the season even at the risk of "losing the team". Personally I don't see how the kid can possibly be that much of a leader enough for any of the rest of those kids to give a shit. I would have liked to have seen someone else get some snaps...that likely person was KJ. I would have had them trading reps and breading a bit of competition after about the 3rd Petrino Interim game.
I freely admit that I could change my mind on KJ but hell yes I want to see someone else get a chance. Hell I like Taylen but the kid just isn't putting it together and we know there is 1 or 2 QBs on the roster that could potentially be the down the road starter so why not give them the ball?
Speaking of which, Taylen is #1 on the depth chart. Bizarre but whatever.
If Bobby never got commitment from the school about next year I don't blame him for not trying to build up players for a season where he won't be here.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 07:00 AMwHaT iF tHe OfFeNsE hAd oF...
What if we'd only given up 12 instead of 15 in the second half against Memphis? That's a win. 13 instead of 17 sends Tennessee to OT. 21 instead of 24 sends Aggy to OT. NOT giving up 17 to Auburn just in the fourth quarter. Mississippi State scored 7 in the first half and 31 in the second half, and beat us by 3.
This board has morphed into nobville.
Amazes me that 40 points per game is looked down upon. We have members that think we realistically should have averaged 50+ a game? And because we didn't it means the coach is washed?? Is that really the position some are taking?
It's clear to me that Arkansas suffers from retarded fans as much as it does from a retarded administration.
BP has been coaching to keep the job. He had to play the QB that have him the best chance to win. I've wanted to see more of KJ as well but I understand the situation.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 08:34 AMBP has been coaching to keep the job. He had to play the QB that have him the best chance to win.
Then maybe his error was deciding TG was the quarterback that gives us the best chance to win.
At the end of the day, scoreboard, the proof is in the pudding, and all that. If you swing for the fences you'd better not bat .000 and strike out every time, or you will shortly be let go.
TG and the offense did enough to win games. Defense matters. Special teams matter. Jesus.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 27, 2025, 06:56 PMTo be fair, we offered Morris also.
There was no offer to Morris.
Petrino has not forgotten how to coach a football team. Petrino has not lost his fire (see his sideline reaction to various officiating shenanigans since assuming HC duties). Petrino has not lost his ability to counter halftime adjustments by an opposing DC.
What Petrino has lost is a Ryan Mallet/Tyler Wilson who is capable of understanding his system as well as he does and can make a huddle believe that he will win the game for them if they all do their jobs.
Petrino also has (apparently) lost an entire offseason of Full Metal Fridays and other forms of physical and mental torture that produces stamina, confidence and discipline in those athletes that survive.
(I'm not certain that kind of approach is even possible in today's climate but I guess we will never find out).
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 08:40 AMThen maybe his error was deciding TG was the quarterback that gives us the best chance to win.
At the end of the day, scoreboard, the proof is in the pudding, and all that. If you swing for the fences you'd better not bat .000 and strike out every time, or you will shortly be let go.
So you know who is the better QB right now better than Petrino? The guy that has coached QBs his entire professional career and watched these guys practice side by side day in and day out the last 2 years.
I've learned that people that are really good at what they do, you trust their judgement. I may question their decisions, but I'll trust their judgement.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 09:10 AMSo you know who is the better QB right now better than Petrino? The guy that has coached QBs his entire professional career and watched these guys practice side by side day in and day out the last 2 years.
I've learned that people that are really good at what they do, you trust their judgement. I may question their decisions, but I'll trust their judgement.
Some things are unknowable. I suppose TG gives us a better chance of winning an SEC game than I would at QB. But at the end of the day .000 = .000 so maybe it's the same.
I would have rolled the dice with Jackson after watching the eleventy millionth brain fart from TG. Does that make me a better talent evaluator than Petrino? That's a dumb lazy take. All professional coaches are "better and know more" than the fans. But second guessing is still a fan's prerogative.
Kiffin is coming to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
I said questioning decisions is expected but I trust a guy that has proven me more right than wrong. When you're job is on the line, you're gonna not take many risks on winning. I think KJ will be a very good QB but I think the difference between him and TG is significant today. Maybe Petrino's peril is he expects perfection. Both QBs are perfect, TG wins in a landslide but that hasn't been the case with TG.
Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 09:32 AMKiffin is coming to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
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Point - All these other schools that have great offenses are putting up points without Bobby as their OC. If he doesnt stick around as either HC or OC, it's not a guarantee that our offense will fall off a cliff.
Counterpoint - Arkansas, traditionally, struggles to field consistently good defenses, forcing us to rely on better than average offenses. The few times in our SEC history where we were a legit good-to-great football team happened becuase we had great offenses and good enough defenses.
Having an OC like Bobby ensures we will have an offense that can put up points over and over again. Can we find another OC (or HC with an offensive background) who can do as well for us offensively, in light of our defensive handicap? That's the real challenge.
We tend to hire offensive minded HCs with that handicap in mind. I'd like to see us hire a defensive minded head coach and task him with improving our more natural deficiency, while leaving the offense to a great playcaller (of which there are many).
My first post on Green after the UAPB game was about how he didn't seem to be able to throw across the middle. That never changed.
I think NIL had something to do with staying with him so long.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 29, 2025, 09:47 AMPoint - All these other schools that have great offenses are putting up points without Bobby as their OC. If he doesnt stick around as either HC or OC, it's not a guarantee that our offense will fall off a cliff.
Counterpoint - Arkansas, traditionally, struggles to field consistently good defenses, forcing us to rely on better than average offenses. The few times in our SEC history where we were a legit good-to-great football team happened becuase we had great offenses and good enough defenses.
Having an OC like Bobby ensures we will have an offense that can put up points over and over again. Can we find another OC (or HC with an offensive background) who can do as well for us offensively, in light of our defensive handicap? That's the real challenge.
We tend to hire offensive minded HCs with that handicap in mind. I'd like to see us hire a defensive minded head coach and task him with improving our more natural deficiency, while leaving the offense to a great playcaller (of which there are many).
I know I'm excited to watch the next Kendal Briles led offense.
Not long ago we had rumblings of TWill replacing Pittman.
I'm a little surprised Briles hasn't moved up into HC gig. This may be the year with some good G5 jobs coming open.
https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1994792473437065436?t=720NAZ3dmSMo9vB0iuLgWw&s=19 (https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1994792473437065436?t=720NAZ3dmSMo9vB0iuLgWw&s=19)
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 29, 2025, 09:47 AMPoint - All these other schools that have great offenses are putting up points without Bobby as their OC. If he doesnt stick around as either HC or OC, it's not a guarantee that our offense will fall off a cliff.
Counterpoint - Arkansas, traditionally, struggles to field consistently good defenses, forcing us to rely on better than average offenses. The few times in our SEC history where we were a legit good-to-great football team happened becuase we had great offenses and good enough defenses.
Having an OC like Bobby ensures we will have an offense that can put up points over and over again. Can we find another OC (or HC with an offensive background) who can do as well for us offensively, in light of our defensive handicap? That's the real challenge.
We tend to hire offensive minded HCs with that handicap in mind. I'd like to see us hire a defensive minded head coach and task him with improving our more natural deficiency, while leaving the offense to a great playcaller (of which there are many).
We are #2 in scoring in SEC play, which means against SEC defenses NOT Arkansas. Some of the other teams got to play against Arkansas' defense which fluffed their numbers as well...
Do you think we have the second most TALENTED offense or amount of talent on offense? If not, what would you attribute our ability to put so many points, and yes POINTS, not yards or whatever else idiots on here like to try to use to complain about, but POINTS, which are what matters, on the board against SEC schools? Could it be the offensive coach?
yeah we're getting Wommack
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 29, 2025, 10:10 AMWe are #2 in scoring in SEC play, which means against SEC defenses NOT Arkansas. Some of the other teams got to play against Arkansas' defense which fluffed their numbers as well...
Do you think we have the second most TALENTED offense or amount of talent on offense? If not, what would you attribute our ability to put so many points, and yes POINTS, not yards or whatever else idiots on here like to try to use to complain about, but POINTS, which are what matters, on the board against SEC schools? Could it be the offensive coach?
To be clear, I want Bobby to get the gig.
I'm just coping
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 29, 2025, 10:12 AMyeah we're getting Wommack
Of all the non-big names out there (Golesh is one of those) Wommack is the one I would prefer.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 10:19 AMOf all the non-big names out there (Golesh is one of those) Wommack is the one I would prefer.
I'm almost there. He wants the job and grew up here. Golesh clearly has others ahead of us.
Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 09:32 AMKiffin is coming to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Is he up for a postseason award or something
Quote from: HTL on Nov 29, 2025, 10:28 AMI'm almost there. He wants the job and grew up here. Golesh clearly has others ahead of us.
One of the many reasons Yurachek needs to be fired is the fact that we could have (and should have) fired Pittman after the Mizzou collapse last year, been the only program hiring, and thus avoided this shitshow of pecking orders and bidding wars.
But no, in typical Arkansas fashion, we're a day late and a dollar short.
Always reactive, never proactive.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 10:19 AMOf all the non-big names out there (Golesh is one of those) Wommack is the one I would prefer.
My only holdup with him is I don't want any remnants of the Houston Nutt years to ever return. At least he has a 13-11 winning record as a Sun Belt HC.
If we are going to revisit any of the Nutt circus, I don't remember Dave Wommack ever being one of the clowns. Heck, give me the 4-2-5 Swarm defense from Alabama and I'll find a way to be happy as long as we get an OC that doesn't call plays with wild gesticulations and/or retarded cards on the sidelines.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 29, 2025, 10:43 AMOne of the many reasons Yurachek needs to be fired is the fact that we could have (and should have) fired Pittman after the Mizzou collapse last year, been the only program hiring, and thus avoided this shitshow of pecking orders and bidding wars.
But no, in typical Arkansas fashion, we're a day late and a dollar short.
Always reactive, never proactive.
We've been saying this all year, and the longer the season goes the truer it becomes.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 09:10 AMSo you know who is the better QB right now better than Petrino? The guy that has coached QBs his entire professional career and watched these guys practice side by side day in and day out the last 2 years.
I've learned that people that are really good at what they do, you trust their judgement. I may question their decisions, but I'll trust their judgement.
We talkin 'bout practice? Not the game?
You know, the games, which are where 15 of our team's 20 turnovers have been committed by our starting quarterback.
Some guys shine brighter in games than in practice. Some don't.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 10:05 AMhttps://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1994792473437065436?t=720NAZ3dmSMo9vB0iuLgWw&s=19 (https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1994792473437065436?t=720NAZ3dmSMo9vB0iuLgWw&s=19)
God I hope he bails on us and Yuraclown is out the door right behind him.
Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 09:32 AMKiffin is coming to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
If this happens I will write Hunter Yurachek a personal letter offering him a blowjob for his stellar performance.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 29, 2025, 10:59 AMWe talkin 'bout practice? Not the game?
You know, the games, which are where 15 of our team's 20 turnovers have been committed by our starting quarterback.
Some guys shine brighter in games than in practice. Some don't.
KJ came in and promptly fumbled into a TD last week as well.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:16 AMKJ came in and promptly fumbled into a TD last week as well.
Yep, a guy who's barely sniffed the field versus a multi-year starter for two teams.
This thread is retarded
If BP switched to KJ early and we got beat down each game, he'd lose the team in a heartbeat. For a guy coaching for his job, you think he would risk that?
Quote from: Feral on Nov 29, 2025, 10:43 AMOne of the many reasons Yurachek needs to be fired is the fact that we could have (and should have) fired Pittman after the Mizzou collapse last year, been the only program hiring, and thus avoided this shitshow of pecking orders and bidding wars.
But no, in typical Arkansas fashion, we're a day late and a dollar short.
Always reactive, never proactive.
It's almost like the program is ran by shareholders and not fans of football or Athletics in general
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:25 AMIf BP switched to KJ early and we got beat down each game, he'd lose the team in a heartbeat. For a guy coaching for his job, you think he would risk that?
Yes, that is the only possible outcome. 🙄
Jesus Christ I didn't say it's the only possible outcome. I said it's a risk. A pretty significant risk in this situation.
Put your job on the line and see how much appetite for risk you have.
There's too many job openings. I have a feeling we're going to "get stuck" with Petrino.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Nov 29, 2025, 11:37 AMThere's too many job openings. I have a feeling we're going to "get stuck" with Petrino.
Oh no. Darn.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:31 AMJesus Christ I didn't say it's the only possible outcome. I said it's a risk. A pretty significant risk in this situation.
Put your job on the line and see how much appetite for risk you have.
You didn't even consider another possibility. Giving him a drive or two is not handing over the reins forever.
Yes, Jackson made a turnover, when he got sacked by their All-American linebacker. It was his second possession, after he led a scoring drive. He came back after the turnover and led two more touchdown drives.
It's ok to realize that Bobby isn't perfect. And I too am forever grateful for what he built the first time around.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Nov 29, 2025, 11:37 AMThere's too many job openings. I have a feeling we're going to "get stuck" with Petrino.
Watch him shop us.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:25 AMIf BP switched to KJ early and we got beat down each game, he'd lose the team in a heartbeat. For a guy coaching for his job, you think he would risk that?
You're not looking at this right. He didn't have to switch starting QBs forever and ever and that's the final answer.
But instead of trotting TG out there over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again after the billionth mental mistake or missed read or turnover, MAYBE you can give the backup QB a series or a few series or a start before game 11 in a 2-9 season.
If only for 2 reasons - teach a lesson about unacceptable QB play, and to see what else we got.
If Jackson really is inferior to TG, back to the bench and putting Green back in is always an option. It's not like it's a novel concept.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 29, 2025, 11:39 AMYou didn't even consider another possibility. Giving him a drive or two is not handing over the reins forever.
Yes, Jackson made a turnover, when he got sacked by their All-American linebacker. It was his second possession, after he led a scoring drive. He came back after the turnover and led two more touchdown drives.
It's ok to realize that Bobby isn't perfect. And I too am forever grateful for what he built the first time around.
Add in the ONLY bright spot the last 2 years.
Hindsight is 20/20 and whatnot
We're arguing that pulling our QB on one of the best offenses in the SEC might've been a better option. We've been in every game throughout conference. When was the time to make the switch?
For the record, I'm ready for KJ to start, put up 400 yds in a convincing win so everyone can say I told you so.
TG just doesn't play well when under pressure and the offense has faced pressure to score every drive because of the defense. Hence the mental errors and stupid turnovers. He wasn't great but not nearly as bad last year in this regard.
He would do well, put up stats, wow us with his scrambling...for a time, then regress into bad TG.
And yeah unfortunately this has cost bobby the opportunity for the full time gig.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 29, 2025, 11:07 AMGod I hope he bails on us and Yuraclown is out the door right behind him.
This is ideal. Then we can get chesney who is a better coach anyway. Maybe he can keep bmfp for oc.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 29, 2025, 10:43 AMOne of the many reasons Yurachek needs to be fired is the fact that we could have (and should have) fired Pittman after the Mizzou collapse last year, been the only program hiring, and thus avoided this shitshow of pecking orders and bidding wars.
But no, in typical Arkansas fashion, we're a day late and a dollar short.
Always reactive, never proactive.
Another thing that our fans get wrong is, "Yuracheck should've fired Sam after last year."
No, Sam should've been gone after 2023. 4-8 (1-7) and a failed OC hire should be enough to get your ass kicked to the curb for any serious SEC program.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:46 AMWe're arguing that pulling our QB on one of the best offenses in the SEC might've been a better option. We've been in every game throughout conference. When was the time to make the switch?
I don't remember the specific game or time of the game but I remember 4-5 times watching this year, after ANOTHER TG fuck up I said to myself "Jackson HAS to be in this next series. He just has to. I don't see how he isn't."
He never was.
But any of those.
What hindsight? We never got to see KJ earlier to know what he'd do.
The results KJ put up against Texas is compelling evidence that the offensive success is WAY more about Petrino than Green.
The fact remains Green has made 75% of our turnovers and we lost several games due to turnovers.
Quote from: TC on Nov 29, 2025, 11:49 AMAnother thing that our fans get wrong is, "Yuracheck should've fired Sam after last year."
No, Sam should've been gone after 2023. 4-8 (1-7) and a failed OC hire should be enough to get your ass kicked to the curb for any serious SEC program.
Completely agree.
No other coach would be given that, even if they built up good will.
Did LSU give Orgeron any grace after that NC?
Easy for us armchair QBs to say.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 08:10 AMAmazes me that 40 points per game is looked down upon. We have members that think we realistically should have averaged 50+ a game? And because we didn't it means the coach is washed?? Is that really the position some are taking?
It's clear to me that Arkansas suffers from retarded fans as much as it does from a retarded administration.
Correct all the way around.
Quote from: TC on Nov 29, 2025, 11:49 AMAnother thing that our fans get wrong is, "Yuracheck should've fired Sam after last year."
No, Sam should've been gone after 2023. 4-8 (1-7) and a failed OC hire should be enough to get your ass kicked to the curb for any serious SEC program.
I'd have been fine with firing him after 2022. He took a team that should have won 9 or more and barely got bowl eligible. That should have counted as his first down year towards the firing countdown at the very least.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 12:15 PMI'd have been fine with firing him after 2022. He took a team that should have won 9 or more and barely got bowl eligible. That should have counted as his first down year towards the firing countdown at the very least.
The loss to liberty gave me serious doubts the rest of his tenure. Only took another 3 years.
I knew he was done in 22. That was a ten win team that barely got to a bowl.
I'm going to say something that probably will piss a lot of you off. Been thinking about this for a while.
95% of us sit around and bitch and say something like "Well the Waltons (or the Hunts, or the Tysons) need to step up and buy us a program (effectively). We aren't serious about football"-- like it is someone else's fault.
Look at Ole Miss. According to what I read, they started a collective and hoped to get 10,000 members contributing $100 a month. That's a million bucks a month. They actually got 12,000 members.
We can't get 1/3 of that number of contributors at $100 bucks a month. So when some of us say "we aren't serious about football", maybe we need to start by looking in the mirror.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:21 PMI'm going to say something that probably will piss a lot of you off. Been thinking about this for a while.
95% of us sit around and bitch and say something like "Well the Waltons (or the Hunts, or the Tysons) need to step up and buy us a program (effectively). We aren't serious about football"-- like it is someone else's fault.
Look at Ole Miss. According to what I read, they started a collective and hoped to get 10,000 members contributing $100 a month. That's a million bucks a month. They actually got 12,000 members.
We can't get 1/3 of that number of contributors at $100 bucks a month. So when some of us say "we aren't serious about football", maybe we need to start by looking in the mirror.
Where were they before they hired Kiffin? You know, the guy our AD got butthurt about when he asked for another $500k. If we had hired Kiffin, we'd be where Ole Miss is today.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:23 PMWhere were they before they hired Kiffin? You know, the guy our AD got butthurt about when he asked for another $500k. If we had hired Kiffin, we'd be where Ole Miss is today.
That's right, blame it on someone else.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:23 PMWhere were they before they hired Kiffin? You know, the guy our AD got butthurt about when he asked for another $500k. If we had hired Kiffin, we'd be where Ole Miss is today.
Didn't Alabama become the fastest growing college after Saban started winning everything there? Students want to be part of those environments.
Yeah, there's no chicken-and-egg quandary there. We've had too many head-scratchers to get excited and open the wallets.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:23 PMWhere were they before they hired Kiffin? You know, the guy our AD got butthurt about when he asked for another $500k. If we had hired Kiffin, we'd be where Ole Miss is today.
kiffin lost five of his last six and finished 8-5. then went to the fans and got the collective going enough to buy an 11 win team the very next season. in what scenario does that happen at arkansas?
Most of us have child support for 3 different baby momma's, are behind on our double wide payment, and the judge won't take off this GD ankle monitor until the fine is paid off.
We broke as a joke, bro.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:25 PMThat's right, blame it on someone else.
It is the fault of our leadership. Jeez, do you even pay attention? Kiffin wins. Second he works the fans AND the donors for NIL collections. Meanwhile our AD fought against NIL and badmouthed every chance be could.
Go ahead, try to donate to an Arkansas NIL collective today. You can't. There isn't one. We're the only team in a Power Five conference right now where there isn't a collective for an average fan to donate.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 11:58 AMEasy for us armchair QBs to say.
That's why they pay me the big bucks.
Wait they don't. Having all the answers on here is my only outlet.
Quote from: TC on Nov 29, 2025, 11:49 AMAnother thing that our fans get wrong is, "Yuracheck should've fired Sam after last year."
No, Sam should've been gone after 2023. 4-8 (1-7) and a failed OC hire should be enough to get your ass kicked to the curb for any serious SEC program.
Yes, the 2023 one is a no brainer.
What I'm saying he also should have been fired after last year as well, which would have worked out nicely in terms of quite literally no one else hiring at that point in time.
But Yurachek let the national media narrative following the Tennessee win about how Pittman had saved his job dictate his inaction.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2025, 12:27 PMkiffin lost five of his last six and finished 8-5. then went to the fans and got the collective going enough to buy an 11 win team the very next season. in what scenario does that happen at arkansas?
Not to mention the fact that we don't have any idea what Sam could have done with an extra 12 million to spend on players.
I know y'all will diss that statement. But it is true.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 12:31 PMThat's why they pay me the big bucks.
Wait they don't. Having all the answers on here is my only outlet.
I know a job opening that pays pretty well :leo:
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2025, 12:27 PMkiffin lost five of his last six and finished 8-5. then went to the fans and got the collective going enough to buy an 11 win team the very next season. in what scenario does that happen at arkansas?
I don't know. Maybe in the same scenario where a coach actually asked the fans to contribute instead of merely saying stupid shit like "blue light special athletes". Maybe in a scenario where an AD embraced NIL and told the public this was the chance for Arkansas to compete against anyone instead of pissing and moaning about it and fighting against it at every level. Oh, and putting together a functioning collective for fans to donate if they were so inclined.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:30 PMIt is the fault of our leadership. Jeez, do you even pay attention? Kiffin wins. Second he works the fans AND the donors for NIL collections. Meanwhile our AD fought against NIL and badmouthed every chance be could.
Go ahead, try to donate to an Arkansas NIL collective today. You can't. There isn't one. We're the only team in a Power Five conference right now where there isn't a collective for an average fan to donate.
We had one that I donated to. The fact that it failed is further evidence of exactly what I said.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:32 PMNot to mention the fact that we don't have any idea what Sam could have done with an extra 12 million to spend on players.
I know y'all will diss that statement. But it is true.
That was the point I tried to make (unsuccessfully) last year. Look at TT.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 29, 2025, 12:18 PMThe loss to liberty gave me serious doubts the rest of his tenure. Only took another 3 years.
Someone on here put it best following that season's Liberty Bowl.
Something to the effect of "something is very wrong when we lose to Liberty and then turn a blowouts against Ole Miss and Kansas into coin flip wins, and I'm not bullish on a 60 year old position coach figuring it out."
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:34 PMWe had one that I donated to. The fact that it failed is further evidence of exactly what I said.
It FAILED because our dumbass AD hired an outside company that was basically a scam and keeping something like 50 percent of the donations for itself. lol
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:30 PMIt is the fault of our leadership. Jeez, do you even pay attention? Kiffin wins. Second he works the fans AND the donors for NIL collections. Meanwhile our AD fought against NIL and badmouthed every chance be could.
Go ahead, try to donate to an Arkansas NIL collective today. You can't. There isn't one. We're the only team in a Power Five conference right now where there isn't a collective for an average fan to donate.
Stop blaming others. You should've shown some initiative and created the collective yourself.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 29, 2025, 12:40 PMStop blaming others. You should've shown some initiative and created the collective yourself.
You're right. I'm creating one today. Send me the money and I'll make sure it gets to right place.
Here is a little article on Blueprint Sports. The outfit our genius AD hired to run our collective.
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2025/blueprint-sports-sanil-oregon-state-nil-1234875225/
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:21 PMI'm going to say something that probably will piss a lot of you off. Been thinking about this for a while.
95% of us sit around and bitch and say something like "Well the Waltons (or the Hunts, or the Tysons) need to step up and buy us a program (effectively). We aren't serious about football"-- like it is someone else's fault.
Look at Ole Miss. According to what I read, they started a collective and hoped to get 10,000 members contributing $100 a month. That's a million bucks a month. They actually got 12,000 members.
We can't get 1/3 of that number of contributors at $100 bucks a month. So when some of us say "we aren't serious about football", maybe we need to start by looking in the mirror.
I was a season ticket holder and donated to the RF for several years. Despite increasing my RF donation every year I could never get out of the upper deck. I finally decided I had maxed out the disposable income I was willing to give.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 29, 2025, 12:40 PMStop blaming others. You should've shown some initiative and created the collective yourself.
I mean woopig got Jersey's for the hockey team. Surely we can drum up a few mill in NIL, no?
Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on Nov 29, 2025, 12:48 PMI was a season ticket holder and donated to the RF for several years. Despite increasing my RF donation every year I could never get out of the upper deck. I finally decided I had maxed out the disposable income I was willing to give.
I understand and that is certainly always an issue. But I still say if they can do it in Mississippi (with 2 SEC schools to support) we should be able to do it in Arkansas. At least "if we are serious about football" (a phrase I hate).
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 12:46 PMHere is a little article on Blueprint Sports. The outfit our genius AD hired to run our collective.
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2025/blueprint-sports-sanil-oregon-state-nil-1234875225/
I also agree that it was handled poorly. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again and try to get it right this time.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 12:49 PMI mean woopig got Jersey's for the hockey team. Surely we can drum up a few mill in NIL, no?
The best thing Muzzy ever did. I got a jersey and a signed puck out of that deal.
That was before the anti-freeze fumes fucked his brain up. Poor guy.
You would think with some of the most business savvy companies in the US in our backyard, that there would be resources we could leverage locally to figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong...
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:21 PMI'm going to say something that probably will piss a lot of you off. Been thinking about this for a while.
95% of us sit around and bitch and say something like "Well the Waltons (or the Hunts, or the Tysons) need to step up and buy us a program (effectively). We aren't serious about football"-- like it is someone else's fault.
Look at Ole Miss. According to what I read, they started a collective and hoped to get 10,000 members contributing $100 a month. That's a million bucks a month. They actually got 12,000 members.
We can't get 1/3 of that number of contributors at $100 bucks a month. So when some of us say "we aren't serious about football", maybe we need to start by looking in the mirror.
I had 4 season tix from 2011 until year 2 of Chad. I also contributed $$ to the Foundation. Drove from DFW to Fay for the games, plus 1 or 2 road games a year. What did I get for all that? I don't want my $$ going to a bunch of idiots who are going to hire another Chad. The UofA has killed my football soul, I'm not going to give them my $$ too.
Quote from: TC on Nov 29, 2025, 12:58 PMThe best thing Muzzy ever did. I got a jersey and a signed puck out of that deal.
That was before the anti-freeze fumes fucked his brain up. Poor guy.
Didn't get a jersey but still have my circa '03 woopig.net shirt with the Hog on the back
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:55 PMI also agree that it was handled poorly. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again and try to get it right this time.
Well, presumably we will but don't sit here and talk about the fans being at fault when we've had buffoonish leadership at every level.
I'll do my best to take the heat off jd...
I don't donate to the Houston Texans so they can pay their players. Why should any of us have to donate to the University of Arkansas so they can pay their players?
Both mentioned teams are part of multi billion dollar businesses. There should be more than enough money being generated through tv, ticket and merchandise sales to more than pay the players.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6500596/2025/07/21/college-football-program-valuations-rankings-2025/
Arkansas is a top 25 team from a valuation standpoint.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:55 PMI also agree that it was handled poorly. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again and try to get it right this time.
Call me crazy but maybe we should try again with someone else in charge.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 01:10 PMWell, presumably we will but don't sit here and talk about the fans being at fault when we've had buffoonish leadership at every level.
I do agree with this position. Bad head coach hires and not navigating the new world very well shoulders most of the blame.
Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 09:32 AMKiffin is coming to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Yeah, every other year.
Asking fans and boosters to pay for players was never the intent, but that's what it has become. Completely out of control, but you can't ignore it either.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 01:22 PMI'll do my best to take the heat off jd...
I don't donate to the Houston Texans so they can pay their players. Why should any of us have to donate to the University of Arkansas so they can pay their players?
One zillion percent agreement. I am not going to "donate" to a college athletic program. I will buy a ticket in exchange for being entertained. Which has not been happening lately.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 01:22 PMI'll do my best to take the heat off jd...
I don't donate to the Houston Texans so they can pay their players. Why should any of us have to donate to the University of Arkansas so they can pay their players?
Both mentioned teams are part of multi billion dollar businesses. There should be more than enough money being generated through tv, ticket and merchandise sales to more than pay the players.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6500596/2025/07/21/college-football-program-valuations-rankings-2025/
Arkansas is a top 25 team from a valuation standpoint.
Leadership and the lack there of.
Starts with the BOT for allowing it.
Criminal what we pay the AD when the football program still is a dumpster fire 8 years later under his lack of vision and plan.
Let's hire someone who stays off social media because they are actually working.
Arkansas' problems from 2012 to now are almost entirely the result of poor leadership and terrible decisions. There is nothing so wrong with Arkansas itself to adequately explain how bad we have been.
They need to change the rules around nil and let the schools pay the players directly
Quote from: BASS on Nov 29, 2025, 01:29 PMThey need to change the rules around nil and let the schools pay the players directly
That won't fix anything. As long as NIL is a thing, players will be paid NIL in addition to whatever payments they get from any other source.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 01:28 PMArkansas' problems from 2012 to now are almost entirely the result of poor leadership and terrible decisions. There is nothing so wrong with Arkansas itself to adequately explain how bad we have been.
Very true
Only thing that will slow NIL is limiting transfers.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2025, 01:28 PMArkansas' problems from 2012 to now are almost entirely the result of poor leadership and terrible decisions. There is nothing so wrong with Arkansas itself to adequately explain how bad we have been.
To that point, here's an unbuffable Tweet and article.
https://x.com/mosesmosley/status/1994456657817211151?s=46&t=kisRHQ-BH2YlHJQ0hr0_Kg
I saw a good podcast the other day of NBA guys and they talked about how NIL has affected kids coming into the NBA. Now they just have to make it to college to feel like they "made it" . Said kids aren't as driven/motivated coming into the league like they used to be. Many are already millionaires and feel entitled.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2025, 12:32 PMNot to mention the fact that we don't have any idea what Sam could have done with an extra 12 million to spend on players.
I know y'all will diss that statement. But it is true.
We have a very good idea what he could have done. Slightly better than he did but not anywhere near what a competent coach could have. For one, just giving him enough money wouldn't have guaranteed he would have evaluated properly. Another, we saw how he did against Liberty, against MSU and BYU in 2023, etc. He had distinct advantages in talent in each of those and couldn't win.
Our roster expenditure was competitive in 2022 and slightly less so in 2023. Both of those teams underachieved relative to their rosters by 2-3 games minimum.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 01:52 PMWe have a very good idea what he could have done. Slightly better than he did but not anywhere near what a competent coach could have. For one, just giving him enough money wouldn't have guaranteed he would have evaluated properly. Another, we saw how he did against Liberty, against MSU and BYU in 2023, etc. He had distinct advantages in talent in each of those and couldn't win.
Enos affect
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 01:42 PMI saw a good podcast the other day of NBA guys and they talked about how NIL has affected kids coming into the NBA. Now they just have to make it to college to feel like they "made it" . Said kids aren't as driven/motivated coming into the league like they used to be. Many are already millionaires and feel entitled.
That's how you end up with weeping gashes like Braylen Russell.
No coach can overcome that attitude. It forced the best ever out of the game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 12:49 PMI mean woopig got Jersey's for the hockey team. Surely we can drum up a few mill in NIL, no?
and yet the university won't pay for them but they'll sell their jerseys online to rip them off
Explains everything.
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Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 03:14 PMExplains everything.
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Room for improvement!
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 29, 2025, 03:16 PMRoom for improvement!
If you're not first your last.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 03:14 PMExplains everything.
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"But Bobby's warshed up!!!!!"
Fucking retards.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 03:14 PMExplains everything.
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Damn you Petrino!!!
Quote from: TC on Nov 29, 2025, 03:17 PM"But Bobby's warshed up!!!!!"
Fucking retards.
+1
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 29, 2025, 02:49 PMand yet the university won't pay for them but they'll sell their jerseys online to rip them off
You have to put your own hog on them, if want one. They are prohibited to put them on what they sell.
Even their own sweaters have to have "Hockey Club" on them now, instead of just a hog.
Neither golesh nor sumrall excited me any more than just hiring Bobby.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 29, 2025, 04:07 PMNeither golesh nor sumrall excited me any more than just hiring Bobby.
You'll get Craddock and you will be told to like it.
A lot of other fanbases fall for the has been over the up and comer, why shouldn't we?
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 04:16 PMA lot of other fanbases fall for the has been over the up and comer, why shouldn't we?
Cuz we're smart enough to know that works about 1/3 of the time?
Our head coaching search is predicated on what the coach at Ole Miss does.
It wasn't long ago that statement would've been asinine.
No words
Hopefully Coach Golesh brings some LB's with him.
whoever the next coach is they better be spending what money the get on the defense.
Whoever it is, I don't want to hear shit about how good we are going to be. SHOW me how good we are.
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Maybe we could get the Harding coach after all.
What's John L Smith doing these days? Or whoever that fat bastard was the ran a fake punt 2x in a row in the cotton bowl?
It is going to be very interesting to see who takes this job.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 05:52 PMIt is going to be very interesting to see who takes this job.
I'll already assume they're retarded
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 05:52 PMIt is going to be very interesting to see who takes this job.
It's Golesh.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 05:55 PMIt's Golesh.
Right now that feels like a Barry Bonds grand slam HR in the bottom of the 9th of game 7.
Feels like a coaching search in 5-6 years.
As long as they don't rappel down onto the stage.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 05:59 PMFeels like a coaching search in 5-6 years.
It's what we do. We're a turnstile program.
If we don't get a chicken man level of financial commitment you can just about count on whoever takes it over is taking it over to take the free money needed for retirement in 5 years or less.
We lack vision from the top down and worse yet they know it and are doing nothing about it because they literally aren't going to fire themselves now would "they"? Rather than that they'll hire somebody knowing there's good odds the marriage won't work and he'll be gone by the end of the first contract well actually they'll give him a 2nd contract when he's managed to take us to a Liberty bowl birth.
I'm fine with Wommack or Golesh. I'd rather have someone that is going to bring credible energy and vision because he damn sure isn't going to get it from anywhere else on the hill. Colin Klein is somebody we probably should have been kicking the tires on but we're going to let him go elsewhere and miss out on who could be the next IT guy in coaching (supposedly he's going to start getting smaller Hc offers if not K-state sooner rather than later)
Agree completely. There is no commitment from the top. I don't think just hiring one of those guys is going to move the needle. Gonna take a lot more than that. I hope I'm wrong.
Has there been any unity on football even before joining the SEC? I didn't really watch Arkansas before 1993, but it seems that we have been wandering the desert longer than Moses. Couldn't be united to hire Tubberville in 97 and even after firing Bert, looked like no one cares.
I don't really care who we hire, since next year will have a worse turnover than a fast food restaurant and without good NIL or stopping the revolving door that is the portal, it is just rinse and repeat.
I am not renewing tickets after 22 years. Maybe I will start deer hunting and other projects.
Doesn't matter who they hire. I'm done blindly giving support. Whoever it is needs to earn it before I become emotionally involved again.
I figure we will be coach searching every 4-5 years. If we can't get the players (and what player wants to come to a losing program)it won't matter. It is amazing how good other teams look (no matter the conference) compared to us. We have boys playing against men. We are so overmatched. We may have 1 or 2 players that could sniff another team. And we will probably still have most of these players next year, because no other team is going to want them.
Your S Florida Bulls are leading Rice 7-0 on the ESPN app.
See future Razorbacks players and coaches?
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 29, 2025, 06:21 PMHas there been any unity on football even before joining the SEC? I didn't really watch Arkansas before 1993, but it seems that we have been wandering the desert longer than Moses. Couldn't be united to hire Tubberville in 97 and even after firing Bert, looked like no one cares.
I don't really care who we hire, since next year will have a worse turnover than a fast food restaurant and without good NIL or stopping the revolving door that is the portal, it is just rinse and repeat.
I am not renewing tickets after 22 years. Maybe I will start deer hunting and other projects.
Arkansas football had an off year before joining the SEC but was coming off back to back SWC titles and 3 straight decades of being top 3 in the nation in win percentage. Our coaches were Broyles, Holtz and then Hatfield in that era and Crowe was a quick hire...
That last year we were ranked top 12 or so and got upset in ugly fashion by TCU (who sucked back then) and it was going to be awful... we also won the SWC in nearly every bother sport
3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us. Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino. We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema. The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 06:29 PMArkansas football had an off year before joining the SEC but was coming off back to back SWC titles and 3 straight decades of being top 3 in the nation in win percentage. Our coaches were Broyles, Holtz and then Hatfield in that era and Crowe was a quick hire...
That last year we were ranked top 12 or so and got upset in ugly fashion by TCU (who sucked back then) and it was going to be awful... we also won the SWC in nearly every bother sport
3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us. Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino. We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema. The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.
Firing Petrino over some relatively minor HR offenses was suicide for our program.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 06:38 PMFiring Petrino over some relatively minor HR offenses was suicide for our program.
A serious football program/university would have had a plan in place to "handle" an accident/coach affair with a staffer.
Minor league leadership then and now.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 29, 2025, 06:43 PMA serious football program/university would have had a plan in place to "handle" an accident/coach affair with a staffer.
Minor league leadership then and now.
True.
I would love to see someone in the "we had to fire him" camp to outline the nuclear winter scenario from keeping Bobby after the wreck, the lies and everything else. What was the worst case for the program and the university if we had decided on internal discipline? I'm going to guess it wouldn't involve four seasons of 0-8 in the SEC out of the next 14 years.
Had to fire him. He had called Jeff Long's best friend a mktherfucker.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 29, 2025, 06:24 PMWe may have 1 or 2 players that could sniff another team.
Our kicker. That is it.
the tight ends will play for some p4 team(s) next season.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 06:29 PM3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us. Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino. We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema. The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.
I hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line. Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference. He was a truly bad coach that was off the side of the road. I saw here and other places descriptors of him as being 'mediocre.' He wasn't close to that. Bielema was one of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second. We were a lazy bunch of pussies who blew leads constantly and he got fatter every year.
Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500. His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500. We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.
Jones is a Sr I believe
Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 06:59 PMOur kicker. That is it.
Fuck him too. He always misses when it's a clutch kick.
Golesh can bring one of the Gramatica kids/grandkids with him from USF.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:06 PMI hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line. Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference. He was a truly bad coach. One of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second.
Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500. His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500. We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.
Adjust for difficulty of schedule and that comparison falls apart. Bert came in at the time when the SEC West was at its peak. Nutt caught it when Alabama was ass, Ole Miss and Miss State were what Mississippi schools are supposed to be, and aTm wasn't in the league.
That regard ozzy says it's Golesh still
https://x.com/ozzymaverickx/status/1994812797264564599?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
If Golesh chooses AU, I'd rather hire Durkin over Wommack. (ducks)
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:08 PMAdjust for difficulty of schedule and that comparison falls apart. Bert came in at the time when the SEC West was at its peak. Nutt caught it when Alabama was ass, Ole Miss and Miss State were what Mississippi schools are supposed to be, and aTm wasn't in the league.
You can play that harp all day long, but there is no serenading anyone about an 18 game differential in five seasons. The SEC was still the best conference in the country. Auburn and LSU were ass kickers and so were Florida and Georgia. Tennessee was great at the beginning of his tenure. The 'any given Saturday' thing was alive and well back then.
There is no comparison between Nutt and Bielema.
The longer this plays out the more likely Golesh may be. Or Florida and Auburn are calling, I don't know. No one knows who the backup plans are for either LSU or Ole Miss if they don't wind up with Lane. We'll learn it all tomorrow.
Lane has college football by the balls. What a world....
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:13 PMYou can play that harp all day long, but there is no serenading anyone about an 18 game differential in five seasons. The SEC was still the best conference in the country. Auburn and LSU were ass kickers and so were Florida and Georgia. Tennessee was great at the beginning of his tenure. The 'any given Saturday' thing was alive and well back then.
There is no comparison between Nutt and Bielema.
I went back and looked once and won't do it again tonight, but Nutt faced something like 3 ranked teams on average while Bert faced six. Add that up over their tenures and it makes a difference.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:13 PMYou can play that harp all day long, but there is no serenading anyone about an 18 game differential in five seasons. The SEC was still the best conference in the country. Auburn and LSU were ass kickers and so were Florida and Georgia. Tennessee was great at the beginning of his tenure. The 'any given Saturday' thing was alive and well back then.
There is no comparison between Nutt and Bielema.
I hate that you're right. I hate that we've fallen so far. I hate Jeff Long for all of it. Fuck that fucking cocksucker!
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 07:12 PMIf Golesh chooses AU, I'd rather hire Durkin over Wommack. (ducks)
their ad said he "would like to see" the next coach keep durkin if he's not promoted. hell of a thing to put out there.
auburn has some fucked up coaching searches too.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:17 PMI went back and looked once and won't do it again tonight, but Nutt faced something like 3 ranked teams on average while Bert faced six. Add that up over their tenures and it makes a difference.
It makes a difference in your mind - your preference - but not in reality.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 07:13 PMThe longer this plays out the more likely Golesh may be. Or Florida and Auburn are calling, I don't know. No one knows who the backup plans are for either LSU or Ole Miss if they don't wind up with Lane. We'll learn it all tomorrow.
Golesh is going to be the guy. All this talk of other schools is disinformation to cover for Trey Schapp leaking the deal early.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2025, 07:18 PMtheir ad said he "would like to see" the next coach keep durkin if he's not promoted. hell of a thing to put out there.
auburn has some fucked up coaching searches too.
Choosing to be DC at AU vs a HC for us may be the dose of reality we need.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:18 PMIt makes a difference in your mind - your preference - but not in reality.
If you don't think strength of schedule matters, well, God bless you.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 07:22 PMChoosing to be DC at AU vs a HC for us may be the dose of reality we need.
Relax. No one would make that choice.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:22 PMIf you don't think strength of schedule matters, well, God bless you.
I guess if it's the participation trophy that you want then you can have at it.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:24 PMI guess if it's the participation trophy that you want then you can have at it.
Come on. Try not to be retarded.
I guess in your mind we should have appreciated that fine Christian man when we had him.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:23 PMRelax. No one would make that choice.
Golesh seems like a decent hire. He's coached in this league. You know me, I just hope he gets what he needs to at least compete. I'm a sucker and will buy my season tickets nonetheless.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:27 PMCome on. Try not to be retarded.
I guess in your mind we should have appreciated that fine Christian man when we had him.
A category error.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 07:29 PMGolesh seems like a decent hire. He's coached in this league. You know me, I just hope he gets what he needs to at least compete. I'm a sucker and will buy my season tickets nonetheless.
I like that he has coordinator experience. Tennessee fell off some offensively when he left. But I'm totally in wait and see mode on him or anyone we hire.
Rumblings that Auburn is kicking the tires on Golesh now
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 07:12 PMIf Golesh chooses AU, I'd rather hire Durkin over Wommack. (ducks)
Why are you ducking?
Figured this would be an anti-Durkin crowd. So no ducking for Durkin?
As stated, Nutt coached in a weaker SEC and had generational instate talent with McFadden, Matt Jones and Shawn Andrews. At one point we had 3 NFL rb's in the backfield on the same team.
If he wasn't so narcissistic I think he could have done really well as a CEO coach.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 07:46 PMFigured this would be an anti-Durkin crowd. So no ducking for Durkin?
I'd rather not have a coach named DJ Durkin. How's that? :D
Quote from: HogglyWoggly on Nov 29, 2025, 07:53 PMI'd rather not have a coach named DJ Durkin. How's that? :D
I wish his nickname was DJ "Pickles" Durkin.
(I know the pickle is a gherkin.)
Gherkin for Durkin does have a catchy ring to it.
Quote from: passed on Nov 27, 2025, 07:06 AM4th & 5 did a breakdown of Golesh's offense. Some stuff in there makes me pretty nervous if he's the hire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVCY9FyoJg
-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so. That's really not good for our D. We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.
The description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:05 PMThe description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach
He ran the same type offense at Tennessee under Heupel and called the plays. Worked pretty well for them.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:05 PMThe description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach
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Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:05 PMThe description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach
You can have the "chad approach" to how you want your offense to go. There's lots of ways to win, but teaching your players to be pussies won't work. Morris and Bielema and Pittman all taught the players to be quitters. It looks like Golesh doesn't have that problem given his record compared to Morris, who was a loser before he got here.
Draw up the annexation of Puerto Rico all you want, but if you have some lazy ass Cuban speaking Spanish with a speech impediment in on it then you're fucked.
I just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB. He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU. His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left. For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.
So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:17 PMI just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB. He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU. His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left. For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.
So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense.
Sure, but that also means that Golesh has a good pedigree from who he coached under.
The comparisons to Morris are wild. Look at that aggie-fuck's record. I'm still not convinced he wasn't a double agent. He should be in jail for fraud. Exhibit number one of how things can always get worse. Made Bielema look like Bill Cowher.
By that logic Mississippi State must have an amazing offense, if pedigree is what makes coaching.
The nobvillification of Woopig continues.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:17 PMI just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB. He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU. His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left. For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.
So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense.
Fair points. The overwhelming majority of Tennessee fans give Golesh a lot more credit for their success than you do though.
You seem to be holding every candidate up to BMFP for comparison. That's fine, I like it, but the fact is that for whatever reason Bobby isn't under consideration. No point in shitting on the next guy until he fucks things up here on his own merits. Might as well retain a little optimism until it's snatched out from under us.
One thing I heard about Golesh that I like, is that he greatly believes in accountability and ain't afraid to get in that ass, if a player is fucking around. There's been to much sunshine and koolaid round here.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:24 PMBy that logic Mississippi State must have an amazing offense, if pedigree is what makes coaching.
The nobvillification of Woopig continues.
It's playing devil's advocate to what you're saying. Paraphrasing: maybe he's not that great b/c Heupels' offenses are always good. Sure. I'm not endorsing it.
Talk about nobvillification. Someone says anything you might interpret as not completely agreeing with you and you get passive aggressive like a woman.
For a concrete example, take this:
The USF Bulls' offense is ranked in the top five nationally, with multiple sources placing it around No. 5 for scoring offense and top three for total offense. Specific rankings vary slightly by source, but general consensus shows them as a high-performing unit.
Scoring Offense: Ranked No. 5 in the FBS, averaging 42.2 points per game.
Total Offense: Ranked No. 3 nationally with 497 yards per game. Another source lists them at No. 7 with 485.2 total yards per game.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:06 PMI hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line. Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference. He was a truly bad coach that was off the side of the road. I saw here and other places descriptors of him as being 'mediocre.' He wasn't close to that. Bielema was one of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second. We were a lazy bunch of pussies who blew leads constantly and he got fatter every year.
Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500. His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500. We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.
Fair, we had some ups under Bielema but not as many as under Nutt.
I disliked Nutt much more for who he was than Bielema, who was just too drunk and distracted to do his job.
Nutt was dumb, narcissistic and would throw anyone and everyone under the bus.
I do think Nutt benefited from the state of Arkansas producing a lot more football talent than it did for Bielema and it does now.
Watching USF woodshed a 5-6 Rice team that needed this game for a bowl...
USF 45-3 in the 4th. Power running game. Look fantastic.
https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1994956432610079199?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 08:39 PMFair, we had some ups under Bielema but not as many as under Nutt.
I disliked Nutt much more for who he was than Bielema, who was just too drunk and distracted to do his job.
Nutt was dumb, narcissistic and would throw anyone and everyone under the bus.
I do think Nutt benefited from the state of Arkansas producing a lot more football talent than it did for Bielema and it does now.
We're on the same page 100 percent. Nutt missed out on a lot of instate talent too, same as Bielema. I've never argued that getting rid of him was the wrong call. We got BMFP.
In retrospect, canning Petrino was as disastrous for the state of our program as the whole losing Hatfield, hiring Crowe, and firing Crowe simulcast with joining the SEC. It might be worse.
The last two years of Nutt through Petrino's four years are when it really looked like we had finally recovered the state of the program.
All gone now and has been for basically a generation.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 08:11 PMYou can have the "chad approach" to how you want your offense to go. There's lots of ways to win, but teaching your players to be pussies won't work. Morris and Bielema and Pittman all taught the players to be quitters. It looks like Golesh doesn't have that problem given his record compared to Morris, who was a loser before he got here.
Draw up the annexation of Puerto Rico all you want, but if you have some lazy ass Cuban speaking Spanish with a speech impediment in on it then you're fucked.
From what I've seen as far as tape goes, including the 4th and 5 one I linked, Golesh's offense doesn't really look like Heupel's or really TN while Golesh was there. Yes, some elements and similarities... but Golesh's offense is a much faster tempo with more RPO from what I've seen.
My fear with that approach is how bad that goes when playing behind the chains, the strain on the defense, and the fact that at this level you need elite athletes to even consider being successful... we seem to struggle with all of those things.
Also, as noted in my previous post on him, his defense was a whopping 32yrds better than ours.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994958550221951321?t=wB723sWJ9ZtH0RNUQMF6og&s=19 (https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994958550221951321?t=wB723sWJ9ZtH0RNUQMF6og&s=19)
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 08:30 PMIt's playing devil's advocate to what you're saying. Paraphrasing: maybe he's not that great b/c Heupels' offenses are always good. Sure. I'm not endorsing it.
Talk about nobvillification. Someone says anything you might interpret as not completely agreeing with you and you get passive aggressive like a woman.
For a concrete example, take this:
The USF Bulls' offense is ranked in the top five nationally, with multiple sources placing it around No. 5 for scoring offense and top three for total offense. Specific rankings vary slightly by source, but general consensus shows them as a high-performing unit.
Scoring Offense: Ranked No. 5 in the FBS, averaging 42.2 points per game.
Total Offense: Ranked No. 3 nationally with 497 yards per game. Another source lists them at No. 7 with 485.2 total yards per game.
Let's see... Some characteristics directly from the post I quoted.
-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so. That's really not good for our D. We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well. Sounds a lot like Chad.-Requires a smart dual threat QB.-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.It's not my fault you get butthurt and go full retard with your rantings... while failing to actually refute anything. You are what you are and we're all fortunate that you're rarely here.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2025, 08:50 PMFrom what I've seen as far as tape goes, including the 4th and 5 one I linked, Golesh's offense doesn't really look like Heupel's or really TN while Golesh was there. Yes, some elements and similarities... but Golesh's offense is a much faster tempo with more RPO from what I've seen.
My fear with that approach is how bad that goes when playing behind the chains, the strain on the defense, and the fact that at this level you need elite athletes to even consider being successful... we seem to struggle with all of those things.
Also, as noted in my previous post on him, his defense was a whopping 32yrds better than ours.
Hopefully he understands how to manage his offense for the particular game situation.
The hunh is simply how one manages the tempo of the game. I have no issue with it in many cases as it can limit free substitution, and it requires great stamina of the athletes. One can use any offense under its parameters whether spread, winged T , or wishbone or k gun.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 08:57 PMBREAKING NEWS!!!!
https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994958550221951321?t=wB723sWJ9ZtH0RNUQMF6og&s=19 (https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994958550221951321?t=wB723sWJ9ZtH0RNUQMF6og&s=19)
The comments are funny. He posts that JB Hunt group is there and wants BP back but that was shot down. Tyson, Scanlon & Yuracheck there. To which someone responds with a pic of Yuracheck at GOAT Lab. Lmao. Fuckman is so full of shit.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 08:26 PMFair points. The overwhelming majority of Tennessee fans give Golesh a lot more credit for their success than you do though.
You seem to be holding every candidate up to BMFP for comparison. That's fine, I like it, but the fact is that for whatever reason Bobby isn't under consideration. No point in shitting on the next guy until he fucks things up here on his own merits. Might as well retain a little optimism until it's snatched out from under us.
I didn't make that post to compare Golesh to Bobby, Heupel, Gruden, or Football Jesus. I only made the point that I'm not going to get excited about a guy just because he was the play caller for a good offense under a head coach who was known for having good offenses before and after that guy was on his staff.
There was one defensive coordinator under Saban who went on to be a good coach on his own. There were several others that didn't pan out apart from Saban - but at some point or another they were all seen as geniuses (except for Tosh). I remember people thinking we'd be fine after the school canned Bobby, because of the same assistants, but how did that work out? As it turns out, head coaching isn't the same as being a good play caller on either side of the ball. As we recently learned, it's a big difference from coaching offensive lines.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:57 PMLet's see... Some characteristics directly from the post I quoted.
-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so. That's really not good for our D. We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well. Sounds a lot like Chad.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.
It's not my fault you get butthurt and go full retard with your rantings... while failing to actually refute anything. You are what you are and we're all fortunate that you're rarely here.
"It's not my fault."
Like I said. Just like a woman. Bitch.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:04 PMI didn't make that post to compare Golesh to Bobby, Heupel, Gruden, or Football Jesus. I only made the point that I'm not going to get excited about a guy just because he was the play caller for a good offense under a head coach who was known for having good offenses before and after that guy was on his staff.
There was one defensive coordinator under Saban who went on to be a good coach on his own. There were several others that didn't pan out apart from Saban - but at some point or another they were all seen as geniuses (except for Tosh). I remember people thinking we'd be fine after the school canned Bobby, because of the same assistants, but how did that work out? As it turns out, head coaching isn't the same as being a good play caller on either side of the ball. As we recently learned, it's a big difference from coaching offensive lines.
All I'm saying is give it a chance to play out before condemning him as Chad. Golesh seems like as good an option as any available to us. I don't think any of us see him as Saban 2.0. It's a lot less depressing to find reasons for optimism rather than skipping straight to fatalism.
RE: your Chad comparisons above...Golesh just went 9-3. Chad never got close to that in the same league.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 09:08 PMRE: your Chad comparisons above...Golesh just went 9-3. Chad never got close to that in the same league.
This is irrelevant to the fact that they both had those same ideals for how their offenses would be built.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 09:07 PM"It's not my fault."
Like I said. Just like a woman. Bitch.
Go sit down and take a good piss.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:09 PMThis is irrelevant to the fact that they both had those same ideals for how their offenses would be built.
Maybe it wasn't the idea that was flawed as much as the implementation.
Elon and I have a lot of the same ideas about going to Mars. He's going to get there and I'm not, because he's a genius and I'm a retard.
So your point of optimism is that maybe he'll change the metrics he wants for those certain position groups just because he would be head coaching in the SEC.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:09 PMThis is irrelevant to the fact that they both had those same ideals for how their offenses would be built.
Ideas and execution of those ideas can certainly bring different results. Remember that fuckstick was spending half his time in DFW and never even moved his family to NWA. Not to mention Pittman actually did well with a lot of the players that he had recruited.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:17 PMSo your point of optimism is that maybe he'll change the metrics he wants for those certain position groups just because he would be head coaching in the SEC.
No my point is that it wasn't the metrics that were Chad's problem. It was the fact that he was a fucking moron who couldn't lead a troop train to a whore house and who couldn't implement the things he considered his philosophy.
Chad was far from the only guy who believed in lighter, faster OL and TE, or who claimed to want to snap the ball fast and run more plays than the other team. He was just the dumbest, or at least the worst who was capable of selling his line of shit to people who hire coaches.
If it doesn't work we will have plenty of time to dissect the reasons why it failed.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2025, 09:04 PMThe comments are funny. He posts that JB Hunt group is there and wants BP back but that was shot down. Tyson, Scanlon & Yuracheck there. To which someone responds with a pic of Yuracheck at GOAT Lab. Lmao. Fuckman is so full of shit.
does this retard still insist we are getting gruden? He's blocked me
HY has got to go. The program needs an enema from the top down.
We are the worst football program in the conference, bar none. We can and deserve better.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 08:24 PMBy that logic Mississippi State must have an amazing offense, if pedigree is what makes coaching.
The nobvillification of Woopig continues.
I pick buff2.0 as the guy that drank too much in our loss to Missouri, prove me wrong! :rofl:
Quote from: HogJaw on Nov 29, 2025, 09:35 PMI pick buff2.0 as the guy that drank too much in our loss to Missouri, prove me wrong! :rofl:
I'd ask if it would surprise you to know I don't drink, but I'm not sure I'd like the answer.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 29, 2025, 09:28 PMHY has got to go. The program needs an enema from the top down.
We are the worst football program in the conference, bar none. We can and deserve better.
Why not a high-pressure enema from the bottom up? It's time to do it different.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 09:26 PMIf it doesn't work we will have plenty of time to dissect the reasons why it failed.
If the next coach flames out you can find me on an OU board.
Those small fast OL don't work in the SEC because they're lined up against big nasties at DL and DE who are bigger, stronger, and still just as fast. I hope Golesh succeeds (as long as it's here) but I haven't seen a good reason yet for why I should expect him to. Best thing I've seen of him is this.
https://x.com/patsmithradio/status/1852558124491641011?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Speaking of Tom Herman, remember when he was the next big thing because Ohio State had a hot offense under Urban Meyer?
Watching Wommack getting carved up by an inept Auburn makes me think he'll fit in nicely here.
Uh I need to know who the brunette was who went and got Tom Herman at the end of that video.
Quote from: Rocky Mountain Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 09:47 PMWatching Wommack getting carved up by an inept Auburn makes me think he'll fit in nicely here.
Just wait till he gets a hold of that Arkansas talent.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:44 PMIf the next coach flames out you can find me on an OU board.
Those small fast OL don't work in the SEC because they're lined up against big nasties at DL and DE who are bigger, stronger, and still just as fast. I hope Golesh succeeds (as long as it's here) but I haven't seen a good reason yet for why I should expect him to. Best thing I've seen of him is this.
https://x.com/patsmithradio/status/1852558124491641011?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Speaking of Tom Herman, remember when he was the next big thing because Ohio State had a hot offense under Urban Meyer?
I like his moxie
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 29, 2025, 09:48 PMUh I need to know who the brunette was who went and got Tom Herman at the end of that video.
Think that was his wife.
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1994981360608710934?t=H0YLh8YfFKFIPiALeuzNKA&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1994981360608710934?t=H0YLh8YfFKFIPiALeuzNKA&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 09:48 PMJust wait till he gets a hold of that Arkansas talent.
That shit made me laugh. :D
He is going to do a lot of processing in the coming days.
https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1994982402716741712?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Why is he at the podium looking like Constable Bob?
He talks process more than Saban
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 10:17 PMHe is going to do a lot of processing in the coming days.
Apparently he's aware of it.
Bama wins, Lane will go to LSU
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:19 PMWhy is he at the podium looking like Constable Bob?
Perfect! We're never gonna get the Raylen Givens. We have to settle for the Constable Bob's!
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:09 PMThis is irrelevant to the fact that they both had those same ideals for how their offenses would be built.
Coaching is more important than scheme. You sound like Bert whining about the hunh. It's tempo. Not the offense. He's got a way better track record than Chad, who seemed to have an offense in his mind but not on paper.
You're simping hard for a guy with the same track record as Charlie Strong at USF.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 10:24 PMPerfect! We're never gonna get the Raylen Givens. We have to settle for the Constable Bob's!
Now I want to hire him just to see how long he keeps up the look.
Bobs a tough son of a bitch.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 29, 2025, 10:33 PMBobs a tough son of a bitch.
People underestimate Bob at their own peril.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:19 PMWhy is he at the podium looking like Constable Bob?
Holy fuck! I can't unsee it now. :maundoed:
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:35 PMPeople underestimate Bob at their own peril.
Because he got balls like Death Stars.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:32 PMYou're simping hard for a guy with the same track record as Charlie Strong at USF.
The fuck you on about? Charlie got progressively worse and got fired. Golesh took a dumpster fire and had his best year in year 3.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 29, 2025, 10:18 PMhttps://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1994982402716741712?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
duckman is going to have to ban a lot of folks by the time this is all over. He has no idea wtf he's talking about. No wonder Hogville banned him
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 10:24 PMPerfect! We're never gonna get the Raylen Givens. We have to settle for the Constable Bob's!
We're okay. He's gotta a Go bag.
Bales has deleted his booster meeting post.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:35 PMPeople underestimate Bob at their own peril.
That's my coach!
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2025, 09:44 PMIf the next coach flames out you can find me on an OU board.
Those small fast OL don't work in the SEC because they're lined up against big nasties at DL and DE who are bigger, stronger, and still just as fast. I hope Golesh succeeds (as long as it's here) but I haven't seen a good reason yet for why I should expect him to. Best thing I've seen of him is this.
https://x.com/patsmithradio/status/1852558124491641011?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Speaking of Tom Herman, remember when he was the next big thing because Ohio State had a hot offense under Urban Meyer?
Now I'm sold! Herman is a raging cocksucker. Put this at the top of Golesh's resume.
https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1995040624211578978?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Once again I'm waiting for a real slime ball national reporter like Joel Schad to chime in on the coaching search. You probably won't hear about the hire legitimately from a local news source. Our media and our citizen media is as inept as our football program.
https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1995015690869170236?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/scottbalesx/status/1995015690869170236?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
This fucking guy
https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1994982402716741712?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1994982402716741712?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2025, 10:15 PMhttps://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1994981360608710934?t=H0YLh8YfFKFIPiALeuzNKA&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1994981360608710934?t=H0YLh8YfFKFIPiALeuzNKA&s=19)
Kind of concerning that he just point blank told them all that the report wasn't true.
Meanwhile Memphis fans are hoping we hire their coach away.
Ole Miss might as well be on the clock too. Early signing period starts Wednesday.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2025, 07:06 AMMeanwhile Memphis fans are hoping we hire their coach away.
Ole Miss might as well be on the clock too. Early signing period starts Wednesday.
We were ahead of the pack until things changed.
Seems like Golesh is likely. Seen some chatter about Dillingham to Auburn. Ole Miss may be left holding their dick.
Quote from: HTL on Nov 30, 2025, 07:21 AMSeems like Golesh is likely. Seen some chatter about Dillingham to Auburn. Ole Miss may be left holding their dick.
Dillingham would be an absolute home run hire for Auburn.
We need to move before the Ole Miss job comes open. Hopefully we land our guy before those dominos fall.
The way this has played out feels like we leaked Golesh to pressure him into a decision.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 08:21 AMThe way this has played out feels like we leaked Golesh to pressure him into a decision.
I'm sure Trey Schaap would dearly love to clear his name. Won't be shocked if somehow the leak is leaked
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 08:21 AMThe way this has played out feels like we leaked Golesh to pressure him into a decision.
Typical 1D checkers move by Yurachek.
What a derpy dipshit of a negotiator. I wish I could buy a car or a house from him.
Hell we wanted him to sign a "memorandum of understanding" for Christ sakes. They feared this would happen and he will have better options letting this play out.
It's 2am. Closing time. The girl we've been flirting with and buying drinks for all night just walked out with a better looking guy who just walked in 2 minutes ago (Golesh).
All that's left is an old woman, who we divorced and dated again (Petrino) and a girl who could be the greatest woman on earth or a tranny in disguise (some assistant).
Those are the choices when you're fat and stupid at 2am.
We are the ugliest girl at the bar no doubt. Asking with crazy eyes and a shitty attitude.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 08:49 AMWe are the ugliest girl at the bar no doubt. Asking with crazy eyes and a shitty attitude.
As the great Hoemath on youtube would say "I am the table, bring me stuff" (while using birdhands)...that's our attitude.
https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1995138626385318010?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1995138626385318010?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Didn't have Tom Mars absolutely cooking Duckman on my bingo card. No one does a coaching search like us.
So not a Grude morning to be Scott Bales?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2025, 07:06 AMMeanwhile Memphis fans are hoping we hire their coach away.
Ole Miss might as well be on the clock too. Early signing period starts Wednesday.
Memohisnhas had the largest NIL budget in that league for several years. No conference championships to show for it and confounding loses like UAB.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2025, 07:06 AMMeanwhile Memphis fans are hoping we hire their coach
Sounds just like someone we'd hire. All he'd need is some ignorant slogan and Arkansas would be all "Hell Yeah! Left lane slow down and hold up I40!"
Chicken dinner right there.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Nov 30, 2025, 09:13 AMMemohisnhas had the largest NIL budget in that league for several years. No conference championships to show for it and confounding loses like UAB.
I think Silverfield was probably sniffing his own farts in mid-October when they were 6-0 and getting playoff buzz and he was getting smoke on the coaching carousel.
It probably turned into a distraction for the team and they went 2-4 down the stretch. The UAB loss is the only WTF loss on there, though. ECU, Navy and Tulane are 8-4, 9-2, and 10-2, respectively.
The other easy answer is that they just weren't as good as everyone thought. The first part of their schedule was dogshit, and the only team they played with a pulse was Troy. Once they played good teams they regressed to the mean.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 30, 2025, 09:07 AMSo not a Grude morning to be Scott Bales?
He may be our only option when this is said and done.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 09:24 AMHe may be our only option when this is said and done.
We deserve Duckman as our next HC.
FYI there is a plane on approach at Tampa that left Drake this morning.
N145JA
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2025, 09:27 AMFYI there is a plane on approach at Tampa that left Drake this morning.
N145JA
We're pulling a Nebraska. The plane is on the tarmac! :rofl:
Kalani Sitake I think would be a helluva hire too...I'm not saying we would be running the wing t or whatever but he's a pretty good coach and would probably bring something nobody else in the SEC has (other than donuts)
Tyson Helton at Western Kentucky hasn't done anything overly remarkable but he's only failed to win less than 8 games once in 7 seasons...that's not bad. You would think he'd be getting somebody kicking his tires. I think that's the brother of the dude that coached at USC for a bit if I'm not mistaken.
Silverfield is being reported as Hc. Shoot me!!!
What the actual fuck?
https://x.com/nealmccready/status/1995157371438747811?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/nealmccready/status/1995157371438747811?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
Fuck you Hunter Yurachek. Fuck youuuuu
Yurachek got played like a fiddle again.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 30, 2025, 09:23 AMThe other easy answer is that they just weren't as good as everyone thought. The first part of their schedule was dogshit, and the only team they played with a pulse was Troy. Once they played good teams they regressed to the mean.
And we were a big part of that white crusted over dogshit.
We aren't serious about football. Plain and simple.
Golesh about to be announced at Auburn.
Locker room scuttle....
Golesh to Auburn
Silverfield to Arkansas
Silverfield will really get those NIL donations rolling in. We're a fucking joke. :suicide:
Yurachek is a terrorist
Horrible.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 30, 2025, 09:55 AMSilverfield will really get those NIL donations rolling in. We're a fucking joke. :suicide:
Should've just kept BP. Fuck this shit. Just makes it even easier to walk away.
I would have liked to seen a Kane Wommack.
Let's hire the G5 guy who can't finish about 3rd and is currently 6th in his conference.
HY absolutely sucks at football.
And who is going to throw NIL money at this?
This hire may go over worse than Pittman's.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 30, 2025, 09:57 AMShould've just kept BP. Fuck this shit. Just makes it even easier to walk away.
I think BP knew before yesterday's game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 10:05 AMThis hire may go over worse than Pittman's.
Infinitely worse.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 10:05 AMThis hire may go over worse than Pittman's.
I'm not a fan of this hire but this is reactionary nonsense.
The optics of the Pittman hire at the time were horrendous. We hired a career OL coach near retirement who wasn't even a candidate after former players lobbied for him following a search where absolutely no one wanted our job (and we were publicly jilted a few times).
I don't know much about RS but I doubt we're going to have a bunch of embarrassing bumbling messes of press conferences with "I don't know" littered throughout.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 30, 2025, 10:11 AMI don't know much about RS but I doubt we're going to have a bunch of embarrassing bumbling messes of press conferences with "I don't know" littered throughout.
No, just the same record as Sam.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2025, 10:07 AMI think BP knew before yesterday's game.
He 100% knew.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Nov 30, 2025, 10:17 AMNo, just the same record as Sam.
I don't think the guy can get to 9 wins
I swear HY needs to be a case study at some business school for how to destroy a business.
Man, there isn't 1 positive comment on social media. Not even a wait and see.
Because it's a terrible hire, and everyone knows it. Total Arkansas move.
The specter of what could have been with BP will continue to haunt us as we watch another few years of losing records and doormat seasons.
https://x.com/tommarslaw/status/1995138626385318010?s=46&t=m_RTTyQoOXCKni9LyjoM3g
Duckman being called out as a fake retard who posted a bunch of lies.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 30, 2025, 10:00 AMLet's hire the G5 guy who can't finish about 3rd and is currently 6th in his conference.
HY absolutely sucks at football.
And who is going to throw NIL money at this?
Correction: HY sucks at EVERYTHING.
Can't hire coaches, can't raise money, has zero clout with the SEC home office, and fucked up our collective and set our NIL back years.
He may as well have hired Major Applewhite
Hear me out. Tom Mars for athletic director.
Better to have him inside the tent pissing out rather than outside the tent pissing in.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2025, 11:09 AMHear me out. Tom Mars for athletic director.
Better to have him inside the tent pissing out rather than outside the tent pissing in.
i'd have no problem with it. but the changes need to go beyond the ad.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2025, 11:09 AMHear me out. Tom Mars for athletic director.
Better to have him inside the tent pissing out rather than outside the tent pissing in.
I like it.
lol
1. James Franklin
2. Eric Morris
3. Ryan Golesh
No telling how far we slid to hire Silverfeld.
Joke of a football program. Laughing stock of the nation.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 30, 2025, 11:23 AMlol
1. James Franklin
2. Eric Morris
3. Ryan Golesh
No telling how far we slid to hire Silverfeld.
Joke of a football program. Laughing stock of the nation.
6..7. What a retard. We have to get to work finding an AD that fits our culture.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2025, 10:07 AMI think BP knew before yesterday's game.
I think he knew weeks ago. He has been done for a while.
And his "people in the building" comment in last weeks press conference is curious in light of what just happened. Pretty sure he hates HY. At least he should.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 30, 2025, 11:42 AMI think he knew weeks ago. He has been done for a while.
And his "people in the building" comment in last weeks press conference is curious in light of what just happened. Pretty sure he hates HY. At least he should.
BP knows all too well what it's like to work for a weak, feckless AD who doesn't care about football.
Now hear me out here...we hired Ryan Silverfield over Bobby Motherfuckin Petrino? I don't care of Petrino went 0 for the planet...you can't do that. I mean I'm not trying to be dramatic here but I think I would have called the Harding coach first.
If he's the guy fine...ill give him a chance but I'm not going to be sitting aside my time for this fucking program anymore. Someone please please hire HY away from us.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 08:49 AMWe are the ugliest girl at the bar no doubt. Asking with crazy eyes and a shitty attitude.
Sounds like I'm up
This is a joke right? Somebody please tell me this is a joke!
Quote from: animal on Nov 30, 2025, 12:05 PMNow hear me out here...we hired Ryan Silverfield over Bobby Motherfuckin Petrino? I don't care of Petrino went 0 for the planet...you can't do that. I mean I'm not trying to be dramatic here but I think I would have called the Harding coach first.
If he's the guy fine...ill give him a chance but I'm not going to be sitting aside my time for this fucking program anymore. Someone please please hire HY away from us.
Correct. There is ZERO justification to hire this guy over Petrino. It almost feels like sabotage. If we had to go that far down the list then you stick with Petrino. He would undoubtedly generate more NIL donations than Silverfield and that's all that really matters, right? Petrino was never under consideration. They're about to find out how easy it is for people like me who don't live in Arkansas to find another team to support. I won't be the only one.
They made their bed 13 years ago and continue to double down.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 30, 2025, 12:15 PMSounds like I'm up
I have as much confidence in you as I do Silverfield. So you have that going for you...
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 30, 2025, 12:23 PMCorrect. There is ZERO justification to hire this guy over Petrino. It almost feels like sabotage. If we had to go that far down the list then you stick with Petrino. He would undoubtedly generate more NIL donations than Silverfield and that's all that really matters, right? Petrino was never under consideration. They're about to find out how easy it is for people like me who don't live in Arkansas to find another team to support. I won't be the only one.
They made their bed 13 years ago and continue to double down.
North Dakota State!
https://x.com/razorbackfb/status/1995196383859794385?s=46 (https://x.com/razorbackfb/status/1995196383859794385?s=46)
Heresacheck is toast. This hire is universally unpopular. Sucks for him. The season ticket sales are going to be horrifying. 10 buck tickets via Harps on the way like Tigger High tickets via Kroger.
Another 5 years of absolute destruction. Maybe Belichicks girlfriend is a fit...
Hunter panicked.
Failed on getting the first two or three (Franklin, Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, etc...)
The Kiffin saga dragged on and on. It became obvious Mississippi would be looking for a coach and Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, Durkin, et al, would be battling for Mississippi, Florida, and Auburn positions, Hunter panicked.
Silverfield is Hunter's panick hire. Silverfield was not being looked at by Mississippi, FLorida, or Auburn and knew he couldn't compete with those schools for Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, or Durkin.
Whose fault is it that Arkansas can't compete? Yurachek. While watching every other school do circles around our program by raking in money to purchase players and coaches, Yurachek was talking about #integrity and how Arkansas football wasn't in a position to compete for a national championship. And the reason is Yurachek.
Golesh to Auburn. Didn't take him long to process.
Weirdest stat of the day is Golesh being 0-3 vs Silverfield.
I thought we'd take Kane Womack over him and thought he definitely wouldn't say no. Perplexed.
Football program is sinking deeper into quicksand
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 12:53 PMWeirdest stat of the day is Golesh being 0-3 vs Silverfield.
I thought we'd take Kane Womack over him and thought he definitely wouldn't say no. Perplexed.
Football program is sinking deeper into quicksand
Silverfirld gets up for big games, shits the bed on others. Very Nutt-esque.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 12:53 PMWeirdest stat of the day is Golesh being 0-3 vs Silverfield.
I thought we'd take Kane Womack over him and thought he definitely wouldn't say no. Perplexed.
Football program is sinking deeper into quicksand
Was Wommack offered?
If someone had charted out worst case scenario two months, ago we sure as fuck followed those instructions. Hunter has to be fired.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 30, 2025, 12:58 PMWas Wommack offered?
Nobody thinks that he was.
I don't think he had other good options, can't imagine he wouldn't take it if offered.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Nov 30, 2025, 12:56 PMSilverfirld gets up for big games, shits the bed on others. Very Nutt-esque.
Very much seems that way
The thing that bothers me about all of this is that the Memphis fanbase and media were eager to see him go
Just never a good sign
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 12:53 PMWeirdest stat of the day is Golesh being 0-3 vs Silverfield.
I thought we'd take Kane Womack over him and thought he definitely wouldn't say no. Perplexed.
Football program is sinking deeper into quicksand
Silverfish inherited a way better situation at Memphis after norvell than golesh did at USF.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 30, 2025, 12:48 PMHunter panicked.
Failed on getting the first two or three (Franklin, Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, etc...)
The Kiffin saga dragged on and on. It became obvious Mississippi would be looking for a coach and Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, Durkin, et al, would be battling for Mississippi, Florida, and Auburn positions, Hunter panicked.
Silverfield is Hunter's panick hire. Silverfield was not being looked at by Mississippi, FLorida, or Auburn and knew he couldn't compete with those schools for Golesh, Sumrall, Wommack, or Durkin.
Whose fault is it that Arkansas can't compete? Yurachek. While watching every other school do circles around our program by raking in money to purchase players and coaches, Yurachek was talking about #integrity and how Arkansas football wasn't in a position to compete for a national championship. And the reason is Yurachek.
This is Yurachek's MO in coaching searches, and it played out with both the Pittman and Silverfield hires.
Zero in on a candidate, fuck around and lose him to a rival SEC school, and then panic and make a random hire.
wow, just wow. womack or petrino before this..
I guess the good news is he wins games inside the Liberty Bowl - PRINT THE SHIRTS!!!!
https://x.com/geoff_calkins/status/1995161453226242317?s=20
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 30, 2025, 01:10 PMwow, just wow. womack or petrino before this..
I guess the good news is he wins games inside the Liberty Bowl - PRINT THE SHIRTS!!!!
https://x.com/geoff_calkins/status/1995161453226242317?s=20
Silverfield is NOT the guy I wanted and I think the Memphis fanbase being glad he's gone is quite bothersome BUT...
If Memphis thinks they are better than this record I think they may be due for a bit of a reality check
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Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 01:18 PMSilverfield is NOT the guy I wanted and I think the Memphis fanbase being glad he's gone is quite bothersome BUT...
If Memphis thinks they are better than this record I think they may be due for a bit of a reality check
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not defending the hire but hell, WE would kill for seen years of that record.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 30, 2025, 01:25 PMnot defending the hire but hell, WE would kill for seen years of that record.
Yes we would-in the SEC. That conference has a slash mark in it.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2025, 01:33 PMYes we would-in the SEC. That conference has a slash mark in it.
But if all things are equal, i.e., level of competition, then there has to be some value.
Hard to rebuild when the decisions keep pushing us backward.
I guess all the people who didn't want Golesh got their wish. Enjoy.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 30, 2025, 01:35 PMBut if all things are equal, i.e., level of competition, then there has to be some value.
Sure it has some. I mean, if he had lost 4 or more games in his tenure, Shirley he wouldn't be a candidate. There are probably a couple other coaches in the CAC/AC that had comparable records over a similar period. I guess they didn't win the ernie, menie.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2025, 03:16 PMSure it has some. I mean, if he had lost 4 or more games in his tenure, Shirley he wouldn't be a candidate. There are probably a couple other coaches in the CAC/AC that had comparable records over a similar period. I guess they didn't win the ernie, menie.
We've heard ad nauseum, "who else are you gonna get?"
Well, this is the answer and it's not gonna change.
At least he's been competing for that conference near the top end. We've lost almost 80% of our conference games since the beginning of the Morris error and almost 75% since Petrino.
Memphis didn't have bottom of the conference talent year in and year out. They had one of the better NILs in the American due to Fred Smith's donations.
So, if he has players he can be successful. It's what we've needed all along.
The FedEx deal was announced in 2024, so basically one football season has been impacted, possibly two. He had success before that.
I applaud your optimism.
Not sure where we are going to get the talent to compete. When BP had talent, he at least has a record of winning big in this league.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 03:55 PMI applaud your optimism.
Not sure where we are going to get the talent to compete. When BP had talent, he at least has a record of winning big in this league.
I mean, he beat us with lesser talent, and that was before our season was washed (we were 2–1 with a near win against Ole Miss) and our players started making business decisions.
I went back and rewatched that game this morning. I'd forgotten that we went up 28-10 right before halftime. Instead of laying down to have a good bleed, Memphis came out with their piss hot and scored a TD in less than a minute to cut it to 28-17 going into the half.
They came back out after halftime and went FG and TD to go up, and then scored a late TD that ultimately was the deciding score.
They fought the hell out of us and never gave up. Comeback wins are reflective of coaching and culture on both sides. They had it, and we didn't.
They also lost to a UAB that was a 25pt dog after they had canned their coach.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 04:13 PMThey also lost to a UAB that was a 25pt dog after they had canned their coach.
A UAB team that won 4 games this year.
Quote from: TC on Nov 30, 2025, 04:23 PMA UAB team that won 4 games this year.
and coached by former Razorback great, Alex Mortenson
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 04:35 PMbring in that entire Memphis staff
This didn't sound too bad at the moment it was posted.
Quote from: wmr on Dec 01, 2025, 05:13 PMThis didn't sound too bad at the moment it was posted.
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