We've come full circle boys...discuss amongst yourself.
His second stint at UL ended in failure but maybe he was always destined to go out on top here instead of there.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 02:03 PMHis second stint at UL ended in failure but maybe he was always destined to go out on top here instead of there.
Not many coaches can say they coached multiple schools multiple times. A rare feat.
Sup, fellas? Stayed away from the board for about 3 months...anything been going on? :popcorn:
Fire t-will today. A high school kid that plays Madden can call better defenses, surely one of the other defensive coaches can do it.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 28, 2025, 02:25 PMSup, fellas? Stayed away from the board for about 3 months...anything been going on? :popcorn:
We're back to Harley's, volleyball shorts, and plane tracking! Good times!!
Also, he needs a coach kilmer "was it fun" speech.
It's all who gives a shit these dumb motherfuckers paid me until people start getting fired because you suck that bad.
Not a player on that defense should get a combine invite.
The next Lawrence Taylor could come out of this group but I wouldn't draft him based on what he did in college this season. Quit is an internal rot that you can not cut out.
We had to fire him. He gave us no choice. There will be lawsuits.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 28, 2025, 02:36 PMWe had to fire him. He gave us no choice. There will be lawsuits.
Did we lose all those suits? I don't remember.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 02:27 PMWe're back to Harley's, volleyball shorts, and plane tracking! Good times!!
Ah c'mon, now...I feel like you're holding out on me. Shirley I've missed several bouts of Swahili's diarrheas.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 28, 2025, 02:52 PMAh c'mon, now...I feel like you're holding out on me. Shirley I've missed several bouts of Swahili's diarrheas.
That was last month when she was in Hot Springs. We have now moved past the shitting of pants and onto shitting on the football field.
It's a shame we don't have the threads from the old board, that thread announcing he was hired from Atlanta was a delight.
We were the villains of college football and I loved every minute of it
Tom Mars on twitter saying if you want someone with #integrity we gotta go get Lashlee. So fuck Tom Mars.
Remember all the names mentioned as possible replacements and then we ended up with the stench of Chad? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Sep 28, 2025, 03:06 PMRemember all the names mentioned as possible replacements and then we ended up with the stench of Chad? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
I remember when nobville was all convinced the BOT was meeting with Gruden at Powerhouse, after closing hours, to sign the contract... all while Nutt was still employed.
First, let me be classy. It's sad for Sam. He wasn't supposed to be a power 5 head coach, ever. Oh sure, the money, cry me a river, etc.
But I don't hate him, I have met him, and he's a good man who was over his head, and that's on our program.
He did remarkably well considering, but he went downhill after losing Briles and Odom, and super seniors who loved the helmet.
What we need is a culture change. Sam wore out and lost his desire. We need a hard ass approach on perfection.
BMFP is the guy who's historically done that, although I'm not against hiring someone else and turning the page.
We can do, and have done, a lot worse than BMFP. If they pass on BMFP and hire another loser like the last 3, everyone's job is gone. There will be pitchforks.
Yurachek and the board almost have to exorcize the demon, they're in a much worse place this time around.
BP never got much of an opportunity to coach in the NIL era. We all know he's a tremendous on the field coach so why did he ultimately fail and both Louisville and Mo State? Recruiting?
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 02:56 PMIt's a shame we don't have the threads from the old board, that thread announcing he was hired from Atlanta was a delight.
We were the villains of college football and I loved every minute of it
It was glorious. BMFP was born. As was the original sins of Bobby Petrino thread.
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 03:12 PMFirst, let me be classy. It's sad for Sam. He wasn't supposed to be a power 5 head coach, ever. Oh sure, the money, cry me a river, etc.
But I don't hate him, I have met him, and he's a good man who was over his head, and that's on our program.
He did remarkably well considering, but he went downhill after losing Briles and Odom, and super seniors who loved the helmet.
What we need is a culture change. Sam wore out and lost his desire. We need a hard ass approach on perfection.
BMFP is the guy who's historically done that, although I'm not against hiring someone else and turning the page.
We can do, and have done, a lot worse than BMFP. If they pass on BMFP and hire another loser like the last 3, everyone's job is gone. There will be pitchforks.
Yurachek and the board almost have to exorcize the demon, they're in a much worse place this time around.
Well said on Sam.
Quote from: CardHog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:14 PMBP never got much of an opportunity to coach in the NIL era. We all know he's a tremendous on the field coach so why did he ultimately fail and both Louisville and Mo State? Recruiting?
He lost the players some how and they quit on him.
This generation doesn't go for the old school tough ass coach way. We've pussified America.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:15 PMIt was glorious. BMFP was born. As was the original sins of Bobby Petrino thread.
It was nice seeing our helmet on the desk nearly every week on Gameday. However, Bama and LSU were having one of the best seasons ever. And, as usual, we still had to play both of them. Good times.
Anyone remember the poster that first posted BOBBY MOTHERFUCKING PETRINO!!!!!?
I think it was the guy that had the Michael Irvin gif with the BMFP meme font on it
Quote from: CardHog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:14 PMBP never got much of an opportunity to coach in the NIL era. We all know he's a tremendous on the field coach so why did he ultimately fail and both Louisville and Mo State? Recruiting?
Mo State I don't think he was there long enough to really say that he "failed" he was a little lacking on being "good" there. That was right when things in recruiting were changing faster than a lot of small budget teams could keep up. Traditional recruiting went out the window.
At Louisville Part Deux I think he got caught with a horrendous defense and a couple QBs after Jackson that just didn't pan out. There may be more to it than that...I wasn't really paying that close attention by that point. Obviously recruiting was the issue there.
Shit has changed so much in recruiting it's hard to say if Petrino with a really competitive NIL budget could do well but I'd suspect he'd be much better than Titts McGee.
Bobby needs 4 of the last 7.
Auburn and Miss St are the most winnable. The former seems set for a total collapse. The latter is better than we'd like to admit.
After that, there's the usual close game vs LSU, a Texas team with a QB that shouldn't scare anyone, and Mizzou at home.
Tennessee and Aggies are tough this year, but no one in the conference is unbeatable.
If we can get any hint of fire and a modicum of football IQ out of our defense, the mountain is not insurmountable.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 03:43 PMBobby needs 4 of the last 7.
Auburn and Miss St are the most winnable. The former seems set for a total collapse. The latter is better than we'd like to admit.
After that, there's the usual close game vs LSU, a Texas team with a QB that shouldn't scare anyone, and Mizzou at home.
Tennessee and Aggies are tough this year, but no one in the conference is unbeatable.
If we can get any hint of fire and a modicum of football IQ out of our defense, the mountain is not insurmountable.
Are you still drunk? While I can see your point with each team... I think the glass bottom clouded your view on our D. Even Texass will embarrass this D, which means LSU, MSST, TN, MIZZ will all dunk all over 'em. I'll be impressed if Petrino can even shift the culture a little. I doubt he can do much else at this point in the season. If he can shift the culture, that means the kids are buying in, and that will speak volumes to Petrino's ability to coach.
Quote from: animal on Sep 28, 2025, 03:37 PMMo State I don't think he was there long enough to really say that he "failed" he was a little lacking on being "good" there. That was right when things in recruiting were changing faster than a lot of small budget teams could keep up. Traditional recruiting went out the window.
At Louisville Part Deux I think he got caught with a horrendous defense and a couple QBs after Jackson that just didn't pan out. There may be more to it than that...I wasn't really paying that close attention by that point. Obviously recruiting was the issue there.
Shit has changed so much in recruiting it's hard to say if Petrino with a really competitive NIL budget could do well but I'd suspect he'd be much better than Titts McGee.
He had like half the roster at Louisville threatening to transfer if he wasn't fired.
Quote from: passed on Sep 28, 2025, 03:50 PMAre you still drunk? While I can see your point with each team... I think the glass bottom clouded your view on our D. Even Texass will embarrass this D, which means LSU, MSST, TN, MIZZ will all dunk all over 'em. I'll be impressed if Petrino can even shift the culture a little. I doubt he can do much else at this point in the season. If he can shift the culture, that means the kids are buying in, and that will speak volumes to Petrino's ability to coach.
No shit. Our defense, or lack thereof, is horrible. We could score 60 points a game and still lose by 14. The rest of our schedule will score on every possession. And they won't even have to run hard to do it.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 28, 2025, 02:52 PMAh c'mon, now...I feel like you're holding out on me. Shirley I've missed several bouts of Swahili's diarrheas.
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Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:52 PMHe had like half the roster at Louisville threatening to transfer if he wasn't fired.
and he had a bunch of family members on the staff (and at missouri st., his son is the oc and his son in law is the dc currently) that didn't sit too well with them.
imo, he'll have to convince the powers that be he's willing to go outside his comfort zone in hiring staff.
Quote from: CardHog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:14 PMBP never got much of an opportunity to coach in the NIL era. We all know he's a tremendous on the field coach so why did he ultimately fail and both Louisville and Mo State? Recruiting?
He wasn't failing at MO State too hard that night when he almost took out a SEC team on their home field with FCS talent.
His second stint at UL was marred by his good friend the AD getting shit-canned by the whole basketball fiasco and the athletic department as a whole being in shambles at the time if I remember. It was a pretty big thing.
So the guy on Tardville who called this exactly on Monday says that if Petrino wins 2 SEC games it's his job. But he says today that there might be a little bit of hedging on that because option number 2 is much more likely than it looked like...whatever that means.
He also says, and goodness I hope this is true, that the Memphis game pissed off some of the deeeeep pockets and since you can buy a team now, they have decided "Why not us?". Allegedly the motivation is that they are getting old and tired of waiting.
I know it's Tardville but he claimed this a week ago and all the usual guys who claim to know shit made fun of him.
petrino's going to have to win more than two games. doubtful the same number of wins as pittman will get him the job.
for better or worse, lashlee seems to be the front runner. when the national guys start throwing out his name, and jerry's, there's something to it.
They don't have any intention of hiring Petrino for the full time job. HY had to name him as a candidate. What else is he going to say? Coach Petrino will be our interim but has no shot at the real thing? Would that inspire good coaching?
Bobby has to win 4 more (getting us to a bowl) to get the gig, imo. Even then, if they have some "Calipari by way of Tyson" level hire waiting in the wings, that'll be it.
I suppose Bobby could stay as OC if the big hire is a defensive minded guy, which I'm in favor of.
So does this mean we get a few weeks of "Arkansas Football with Bobby Petrino"coach's show?
That should at least be entertaining watching Bobby break down film and watching uncomfortable Chuck Barrett almost piss himself.
If it's Lashlee then I'm officially done. If it's Gus I'm officially done. If it is anyone with SMU ties I'm done. Jerry Jones influenced...done.
Does Jerry have any more grand kids that play QB?
*Also this whole rumor about the big wigs being "pissed off" and "ready to do what it takes" LOL. Whatever. I'll believe it when I see it. All we're doing is getting another chicken ready to be served up with a dose of disappoint in 6 years.
I think there is a Lashlee contingent but I don't think the big money is behind him, or at least he isn't the first choice.
everyone has got to weigh in I guess
https://x.com/SarahHuckabee/status/1972351743356010853
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 05:17 PMThey don't have any intention of hiring Petrino for the full time job. HY had to name him as a candidate. What else is he going to say? Coach Petrino will be our interim but has no shot at the real thing? Would that inspire good coaching?
This is my thoughts on Bobby. I don't think he's going to be a serious candidate barring a miracle or complete abortion of the hiring process, which is entirely possible.
So no word on Travis Williams yet?
Petrino will help him game plan and make halftime adjustments.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 05:17 PMThey don't have any intention of hiring Petrino for the full time job. HY had to name him as a candidate. What else is he going to say? Coach Petrino will be our interim but has no shot at the real thing? Would that inspire good coaching?
You're probably right. Kind of feels like the obligatory give him a chance kind of thing, knowing full well there's little he can do to right the ship mid season. Then they can pick someone else while shutting up the fans who would otherwise be hounding for Petrino, by saying he just couldn't get it done.
At any rate, I think petrino will coach as hardest as he ever will have. This is the shot he's finally been waiting for.
It shall be interesting
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 28, 2025, 06:01 PMPetrino will help him game plan and make halftime adjustments.
I hope they're better than the halftime adjustments Petrino has made the last three weeks.
The offense has scored a whopping 10 points in the second half in last six quarters.
Is Petrino going to be his own OC while playing head coach? What is baby brother doing these days?
i think the best sceraio is someone like sumrall or golesh and they keep petrino as oc.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:21 PMAnyone remember the poster that first posted BOBBY MOTHERFUCKING PETRINO!!!!!?
I think it was the guy that had the Michael Irvin gif with the BMFP meme font on it
Me.
Rock City Outfitters should at least give me a free shirt.
I predict you'll see a different Bobby Petrino. He won't have Sam overriding his decisions now. Decisions that he wouldn't have made.
I think a lot of people are underestimating the difference between a head coach and a coordinator.
He has a shot. He's back on top, and it's everything he's ever wanted.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 03:57 PMand he had a bunch of family members on the staff (and at missouri st., his son is the oc and his son in law is the dc currently) that didn't sit too well with them.
imo, he'll have to convince the powers that be he's willing to go outside his comfort zone in hiring staff.
One son-in-law is the HC at SMS now.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 28, 2025, 06:12 PMIs Petrino going to be his own OC while playing head coach? What is baby brother doing these days?
OC at South Alabama
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 06:16 PMI predict you'll see a different Bobby Petrino. He won't have Sam overriding his decisions now. Decisions that he wouldn't have made.
I think a lot of people are underestimating the difference between a head coach and a coordinator.
He has a shot. He's back on top, and it's everything he's ever wanted.
I bet we see the same shitty team. The die is cast for this season.
I bet we see some improvement. How much I don't know. I mean we should have beaten Ole Miss at Oxford. Ole Miss is going to he ranked in the top ten and undefeated. We're bad but the difference between being awful and a decent team isn't as far as some on here seem to think.
We could easily be 4-1 with our only loss to a team that played for the NC last year.
And if Petrino had been our HC, that is exactly where we would be.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 06:57 PMI bet we see some improvement. How much I don't know. I mean we should have beaten Ole Miss at Oxford. Ole Miss is going to he ranked in the top ten and undefeated. We're bad but the difference between being awful and a decent team isn't as far as some on here seem to think.
We could easily be 4-1 with our only loss to a team that played for the NC last year.
And if Petrino had been our HC, that is exactly where we would be.
This is where I am.
A proper coach beats Memphis and Ole Miss. We may or may not have lost to ND, I dont know, but I know what it looks like when a team gives up on a coach, and that was yesterday. Once you give up, losing big is how it goes, no matter the opponent.
If we go into the Notre Dame game 4-0, we're ranked number 15 or so, at home, and full of players who think they have a future.
The team gave up on Sam, offense and defense. Everyone. If Bobby can win them back we can surprise some folks. If not (if they figure they're just going to portal out anyway) then there's nothing that can be done.
Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 28, 2025, 06:04 PMAt any rate, I think petrino will coach as hardest as he ever will have. This is the shot he's finally been waiting for.
It shall be interesting
If he can instill Give a Shit, then they can maybe have a shot at a couple of these games.
They straight up laid down and rolled over on national TV against Notre fricking Dame on their own field.
I dont know if they have the fortitude to turn it around. Quitters quit. It's hard to get somebody to not be a quitter.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 07:09 PMThis is where I am.
A proper coach beats Memphis and Ole Miss. We may or may not have lost to ND, I dont know, but I know what it looks like when a team gives up on a coach, and that was yesterday. Once you give up, losing big is how it goes, no matter the opponent.
If we go into the Notre Dame game 4-0, we're ranked number 15 or so, at home, and full of players who think they have a future.
The team gave up on Sam, offense and defense. Everyone. If Bobby can win them back we can surprise some folks. If not (if they figure they're just going to portal out anyway) then there's nothing that can be done.
Also the timing of yurchecks comments didn't help just shortly after a tough loss to ole miss on the road. I do think there was a little more quit after that. But I too believe they will get a little re-energized after the firing and maybe pull off an upset. I'd say maybe a$m could be that game but idk. Might not be the year, but I'm sure bobby would love to get that one,especially.
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 28, 2025, 07:17 PMIf he can instill Give a Shit, then they can maybe have a shot at a couple of these games.
They straight up laid down and rolled over on national TV against Notre fricking Dame on their own field.
I dont know if they have the fortitude to turn it around. Quitters quit. It's hard to get somebody to not be a quitter.
If it's me I'm calling a team meeting and reminding these fuckers that they're costing themselves cash by putting that weak ass loafing shit on film. Hell they might not be here and the coaches might not be here next year but every game they have an opportunity to put good shit on film which will get them paid here or somewhere else next year. If they're gonna loaf I'm gonna go down the roster till I find someone interesting in putting in effort. Will gladly let them put good tape out and go get paid
If Petrino wins some games, he will be the coach. I know he has money backing him. That's why he got the majority of the NIL spend this year.
The power that brought him here did so to give him this shot. That's what the infighting was about I'd guarantee. But you either have money behind you, or your toast now.
Williams and the other coaches wives knew they were being left behind IMO.
I laugh when people say Bobby can't be the head coach based on some rule. That's not the way it is anymore.
However, we might have another person who gets even more money. The game yesterday got a lot of attention. Looking at it now, it was the best thing that ever happened to our program.
Of all the names rumored, it won't be those. It will be Bobby or another Cal type hire.
Bookmark this. If I'm wrong, I'll eat it, but I'm not.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 28, 2025, 05:43 PMIf it's Lashlee then I'm officially done. If it's Gus I'm officially done. If it is anyone with SMU ties I'm done. Jerry Jones influenced...done.
Seconded.
I do wonder if Green or everyone for that matter, will have a shorter leash with Petrino calling the shots. I don't know if Sam was calling some of those personnel decisions or not based on spend, but wouldn't surprise me.
Hell, we found several decent players show up in the bowl game last year, so it wouldn't be too far fetched to think we have some guys down the bench that are looking to boost their status and play hard to earn a little more cash next year. Maybe we can get a little more out of them than one game before they portal.
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 07:38 PMIf Petrino wins some games, he will be the coach. I know he has money backing him. That's why he got the majority of the NIL spend this year.
The power that brought him here did so to give him this shot. That's what the infighting was about I'd guarantee. But you either have money behind you, or your toast now.
Williams and the other coaches wives knew they were being left behind IMO.
I laugh when people say Bobby can't be the head coach based on some rule. That's not the way it is anymore.
However, we might have another person who gets even more money. The game yesterday got a lot of attention. Looking at it now, it was the best thing that ever happened to our program.
Of all the names rumored, it won't be those. It will be Bobby or another Cal type hire.
Bookmark this. If I'm wrong, I'll eat it, but I'm not.
This is what that guy on Tardville was hinting at. The money is motivated and someone is noticing.
it's all speculation at this point, but taking the word of some dude on nobville while the national guys are saying something else is... interesting.
was it porkatarian?
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 08:09 PMit's all speculation at this point, but taking the word of some dude on nobville while the national guys are saying something else is... interesting.
was it porkatarian?
Nope, he said we didn't have the money to fire Sam. It's either going to be Petrino or a pretty big hire.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 08:11 PMNope, he said we didn't have the money to fire Sam. It's either going to be Petrino or a pretty big hire.
i agree. it will be a big hire, and that includes bp if he's the one.
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 07:38 PMIf Petrino wins some games, he will be the coach. I know he has money backing him. That's why he got the majority of the NIL spend this year.
The power that brought him here did so to give him this shot. That's what the infighting was about I'd guarantee. But you either have money behind you, or your toast now.
Williams and the other coaches wives knew they were being left behind IMO.
I laugh when people say Bobby can't be the head coach based on some rule. That's not the way it is anymore.
However, we might have another person who gets even more money. The game yesterday got a lot of attention. Looking at it now, it was the best thing that ever happened to our program.
Of all the names rumored, it won't be those. It will be Bobby or another Cal type hire.
Bookmark this. If I'm wrong, I'll eat it, but I'm not.
These posts always wind up being about as satisfying as a DVH Omaha run.
Quote from: wmr on Sep 28, 2025, 08:16 PMThese posts always wind up being about as satisfying as a DVH Omaha run.
So do our coaching searches.
(sans Cal and Bobby...but the latter was almost twenty years ago)
We will make a big "splash" hire according to our AD and it will be the 2025 version of Jim Grobe
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 06:16 PMI predict you'll see a different Bobby Petrino.
I just can't wait to see that evil grin one more time
I'll bet Mrs Pitt was the ringleader of the coaches wives bullshit.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 28, 2025, 05:43 PMIf it's Lashlee then I'm officially done. If it's Gus I'm officially done. If it is anyone with SMU ties I'm done. Jerry Jones influenced...done.
I could give Lashlee a chance, depending on how the rest of the season goes and the staff he brings. Right now he's 2-2, and if we bring in a coach from SMU after a .500 season I will nope right the fuck out of Arkansas football.
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 07:38 PMIf Petrino wins some games, he will be the coach. I know he has money backing him. That's why he got the majority of the NIL spend this year.
The power that brought him here did so to give him this shot. That's what the infighting was about I'd guarantee. But you either have money behind you, or your toast now.
Williams and the other coaches wives knew they were being left behind IMO.
I laugh when people say Bobby can't be the head coach based on some rule. That's not the way it is anymore.
However, we might have another person who gets even more money. The game yesterday got a lot of attention. Looking at it now, it was the best thing that ever happened to our program.
Of all the names rumored, it won't be those. It will be Bobby or another Cal type hire.
Bookmark this. If I'm wrong, I'll eat it, but I'm not.
Oh Lord! Lou Hotz was there! He is coming out of retirement. He had on Hog clothes! We are going to the Orange Bowl!
Quote from: wmr on Sep 28, 2025, 08:16 PMThese posts always wind up being about as satisfying as a DVH Omaha run.
I'm just saying there is a lot of money support for Bobby in the state. That's why he's here. That's why Taylen Green is here. Bobby gets what he wants, and will continue to get it, hell he just did.
He is getting his shot. Our program isn't about Hunter Yurachek. Or even the BOT. Our program, and all programs now, are big boy playgrounds. It doesn't matter about the Razorback Foundation either. That's for the "poors" these days.
The only one I don't want, and we all agree, is Jerry calling shots. No Lashlee. It should be interesting to see who wins in the end. Won't be Tyson this time, but it will be a BIG hire.
We got Bobby in the first place, we followed up with a national name in Bielema (also a big hire) before the wheels came off. The real story is what happened in 2018-2025?
We are a big job, whether these idiots who tell us it isn't say so or not, when our real money want it to be. Cal proved that, and I don't know anything else, but I'm saying we're going to go all in.
My opinion, could be wrong, but it isn't. We AT LEAST get Bobby. That's huge in itself.
petrino is at arkansas because pittman asked him to come. bp said so himself.
there wasn't any big wig back room shit about his hire.
Quote from: aaron on Sep 28, 2025, 08:29 PMI'll bet Mrs Pitt was the ringleader of the coaches wives bullshit.
She was the last time around was she not?
Can we ban non-Woopig fans from having opinions on the coaching search?
https://x.com/KATVJames/status/1972385449919574507
Quote from: red death on Sep 28, 2025, 08:34 PMWe are a big job, whether these idiots who tell us it isn't say so or not, when our real money want it to be. Cal proved that, and I don't know anything else, but I'm saying we're going to go all in.
The only thing Cal proves is that we are, indeed, a basketball school (and this was after Musselman re-established that after 20 years in the basketball wilderness).
There is no reason to believe that this translates to football or can be replicated in a football hire. We're not even 7th in potential in the SEC any more. Double that.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 28, 2025, 05:43 PMIf it's Lashlee then I'm officially done. If it's Gus I'm officially done. If it is anyone with SMU ties I'm done. Jerry Jones influenced...done.
Niedermeyer...
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 28, 2025, 08:46 PMThe only thing Cal proves is that we are, indeed, a basketball school (and this was after Musselman re-established that after 20 years in the basketball wilderness).
There is no reason to believe that this translates to football or can be replicated in a football hire. We're not even 7th in potential in the SEC any more. Double that.
Are you saying that the last 12 seasons have squandered all momentum from BMFP's 21-5 run?
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 08:39 PMpetrino is at arkansas because pittman asked him to come. bp said so himself.
there wasn't any big wig back room shit about his hire.
come on now...do you believe that
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 28, 2025, 08:41 PMCan we ban non-Woopig fans from having opinions on the coaching search?
https://x.com/KATVJames/status/1972385449919574507
"Florida fired Dan Mullen as head coach after the team's 5-6 record in the 2021 season, which was a disappointment after a strong 2020 season. Key factors for the firing included inconsistent quarterback play, a struggle with recruiting, a stubborn refusal to fire assistant coaches like defensive coordinator Todd Grantham, and Mullen's abrasive personality and lack of connection with boosters and fans."
the complete opposite of whoever that guy is, said.
Quote from: animal on Sep 28, 2025, 08:48 PMcome on now...do you believe that
tell me why i shouldn't. petrino said it himself.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 28, 2025, 08:48 PMAre you saying that the last 12 seasons have squandered all momentum from BMFP's 21-5 run?
I'm saying that falling dick first into fucking a hot girl doesn't make you a playa if you've spent the rest of the last 33 years mostly wanking into a napkin or getting the occasional fat chick to come home with you.
A blip is not "momentum".
Okie Lite fired their DC. There's still hope for T-Will to suddenly have more free time than he planned on this October.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 08:50 PMtell me why i shouldn't. petrino said it himself.
Because it's obvious bullshit.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 08:57 PMBecause it's obvious bullshit.
Just as bs as yuracheck being responsible for the cal hire.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 08:57 PMBecause it's obvious bullshit.
so you can't tell me why. let's hear who did tell pittman to hire bobby petrino of all people.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 28, 2025, 09:01 PMJust as bs as yuracheck being responsible for the cal hire.
Yeah, pretty much.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 08:50 PMtell me why i shouldn't. petrino said it himself.
He also said he had no interest in getting back into being a head coach.
Coaches lie. All of them.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2025, 09:09 PMso you can't tell me why. let's hear who did tell pittman to hire bobby petrino of all people.
As you say, "Of all people." I'm sure a guy who would block someone from his Twitter account at the drop of a hat came up with it entirely on his own to hire the one guy that 75% of the fanbase would vote to replace him with and who would get all the credit for anything that worked. Yeah, that makes sense. lololol
again, if you think it's obviously bullshit, that's cool.
but if you can't give a reason why then isn't that obvious bullshit also?
one of you have to know, right.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 09:13 PMAs you say, "Of all people." I'm sure a guy who would block someone from his Twitter account at the drop of a hat came up with it entirely on his own to hire the one guy that 75% of the fanbase would vote to replace him with and who would get all the credit for anything that worked. Yeah, that makes sense. lololol
Maybe to save his job?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 28, 2025, 08:24 PMI just can't wait to see that evil grin one more time
I want to see him shout f u mother fer to an opposing coach this year, and then game plan specifically to wreck that coach next year, including holding plays in reserve for most of the season out of pure spite and desire for revenge.
I'm just sentimental like that.
I'm liking Kingsbury more and more
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 09:18 PMMaybe to save his job?
By hiring the one guy everyone predicted was going to ease him out as soon as he was hired? The guy who eventually replaced him exactly as everyone knew he would the second he was hired? That guy?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 09:22 PMI'm liking Kingsbury more and more
This would not upset me.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 09:22 PMBy hiring the one guy everyone predicted was going to ease him out as soon as he was hired? The guy who eventually replaced him exactly as everyone knew he would the second he was hired? That guy?
Do recall how dire the end of the '23 season was? Lot of chatter about Pittman getting canned after the Enos debacle. You wouldn't hire one of the best OCs in the country who just became a available, and that would also get the fanbase back on your side to save your ass? You think that is farfetched??
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 09:29 PMDo recall how dire the end of the '23 season was? Lot of chatter about Pittman getting canned after the Enos debacle. You wouldn't hire one of the best OCs in the country who just became a available, and that would also get the fanbase back on your side to save your ass? You think that is farfetched??
Yes, I do.
Only shock hires I can see are James Franklin and Dan Lanning
The former would be a Cal situation. The latter would be someone looking to get back to coaching in the south, but that seems like a bygone reason for a coach to leave an annual playoff contender
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 09:32 PMOnly shock hires I can see are James Franklin and Dan Lanning
The former would be a Cal situation. The latter would be someone looking to get back to coaching in the south, but that seems like a bygone reason for a coach to leave an annual playoff contender
and leave over $11 million a year.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 09:22 PMI'm liking Kingsbury more and more
His record at Texas Tech through 6 years was worse than Sam's.
Quote from: CardHog on Sep 28, 2025, 09:38 PMHis record at Texas Tech through 6 years was worse than Sam's.
i think he's about to get a spot on the nfl retread carousel anyway.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 09:22 PMI'm liking Kingsbury more and more
We could, and probably will, do way worse. I'm not sure why he would generate NIL excitement though. Whoever it is will demand a huge NIL commitment.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 28, 2025, 09:31 PMYes, I do.
You weren't going to get an OC to leave their job and be the OC for a coach on the hot seat. Someone looking for a job was likely your only option.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 09:55 PMYou weren't going to get an OC to leave their job and be the OC for a coach on the hot seat. Someone looking for a job was likely your only option.
Okay, Mrs. Pittman.
Hell, you're the one who that knows who called who. Lol
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 09:55 PMYou weren't going to get an OC to leave their job and be the OC for a coach on the hot seat. Someone looking for a job was likely your only option.
Probably two good points and it's all speculation anyways. I'm sure Pittman did actually ask Bobby to come, just like cheeks "hired" cal, but I doubt it was his idea to hire him. If not solely for the reason of why and how he'd gotten fired from here. He probably wouldn't have thought it was even an option but it was strongly suggested to him, in his best interest, whether he liked it or not.
I'm sure it was suggested. It was a life card to a dead man walking. He wasn't going to get a better OC to come here.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 28, 2025, 10:20 PMI'm sure it was suggested. It was a life card to a dead man walking. He wasn't going to get a better OC to come here.
I don't know or care whose idea it was, but impressed me that Sam was willing to do it. Either it was a ballsy move or he was closer to getting the axe after that year than we thought and had no leverage at all.
I was just down from them when Bobby and Sam showed up to the basketball game. Surreal moment.
Biddy mentioned on his Walk and Talk today thet there was at least some chatter about Sam getting fired that offseason. I don't recall it being widely reported.
It's highly unlikely we have any shot against Tennessee, even with the bye week. You know they want a piece of our ass. If TWill isn't fired already, maybe let him embarrass himself again against Tennessee, then fire him.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2025, 09:32 PMOnly shock hires I can see are James Franklin and Dan Lanning
The former would be a Cal situation. The latter would be someone looking to get back to coaching in the south, but that seems like a bygone reason for a coach to leave an annual playoff contender
Aren't you just the slightest bit worried that the "shock hire" is gonna be Gundy?
With regard to why the Petrion is here...didn't Frank Fletcher bankroll it? That's the reason he gets what he wants?
Quote from: PorkyPig on Sep 29, 2025, 06:52 AMWith regard to why the Petrion is here...didn't Frank Fletcher bankroll it? That's the reason he gets what he wants?
Yes. They are great friends and Frank wanted Bobby back, buy from Fletcher Dodge or eat at Riverfront Steakhouse.
First text report that TWill gone this morning. We shall see. And hope.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 29, 2025, 07:47 AMFirst text report that TWill gone this morning. We shall see. And hope.
Imagine being TWill on Sunday and you learn that your boss was fired.
The next morning you arrive at work to a note saying "please see the head football coach immediately when you arrive."
Then you make the walk over to the head coach's office, go in, and Petrino is sitting behind the desk.
That's nightmare stuff.
https://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1972649123196420223
Damn it we may be bringing back Willyl
Three defensive coaches is a Wipeout.
I'm not complaining but I seriously hope someone is prepared to throw money around to bring in a bunch of temporary replacements.
Maybe throw a bunch of money of Muschamp. He's not coaching this season and might be DC for a year if the price is right.
Quote from: animal on Sep 29, 2025, 08:08 AMhttps://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1972649123196420223
Damn it we may be bringing back Willyl
Nah, much rather have Chavis (the best DC evar, per Chad).
All 3 needed to go.
It was obvious to anyone who knows the slightest bit about football that our defensive issues aren't just due to talent. There are glaring issues with coaching and scheme. Players playing out of position, play calls late coming in, bad angles, bad coverage schemes, ill-timed blitzes, and some of the worst tackling I've ever seen (which, along with the fumble issues, tells me we're not practicing hard or hitting in practice).
The defensive line got pushed around by Memphis and couldn't rush the passer to save their lives, and secondary was hilariously bad.
Quote from: animal on Sep 29, 2025, 08:08 AMhttps://x.com/MimsCourtney/status/1972649123196420223
Damn it we may be bringing back Willyl
Imagine going from a guy that everyone was promoting as the next head coach somewhere to a guy hitting the unemployment line. Rough.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 08:18 AMImagine going from a guy that everyone was promoting as the next head coach somewhere to a guy hitting the unemployment line. Rough.
And the on-field result improving...
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 08:18 AMImagine going from a guy that everyone was promoting as the next head coach somewhere to a guy hitting the unemployment line. Rough.
Williams was on the Falcons when Bobby was there. It's hard to imagine there wasn't some residual tension when they ended up on the same staff.
My biggest worry is that the defensive players continue to lay down and quit as a protest to losing their buddy DC to the big mean OC
The D staff firing should've happened at halftime. Let the GA's get a shot at proving their worth.
What is Charlie Strong doing these days...I don't imagine there's much of a relationship between BMFP and him though. I won't be shocked if it's a Bobby Allen type coming in. Just a few older guys that love that helmet would be better than the slugs we have now.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 08:21 AMWilliams was on the Falcons when Bobby was there. It's hard to imagine there wasn't some residual tension when they ended up on the same staff.
My biggest worry is that the defensive players continue to lay down and quit as a protest to losing their buddy DC to the big mean OC
Then they won't be playing, most likely. The Second/Third stringers will be playing until they find someone willing to put out effort, even if they player isn't as good. The loafer can loaf on the bench.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 08:21 AMMy biggest worry is that the defensive players continue to lay down and quit as a protest to losing their buddy DC to the big mean OC
More of the same is certainly a possibility, but they were already doing this so might as well try something new.
Posted in another thread, but the father of the FHS QB, who happens to be highly recruited for the 2027 class, is currently in an off-field defensive staff role. Expect him to get promoted.
If he's healthy enough and available I'd expect Steve Caldwell to come back and work with the DL now that Deke is gone. Too bad Hurtt isn't around to give us inside scoop on that - Caldwell is his cousin, I think.
Good thing T-Will has the record label to fall back on. Should have spent more time learning to call a defense instead of trying to rhyme.
Bobby ain't messing around with the anti-Reggie Herring.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 29, 2025, 08:28 AMMore of the same is certainly a possibility, but they were already doing this so might as well try something new.
Yeah, what would we be losing if they continue to not try making plays?
Che Hendrix is on the support staff...former Tx high school coach. Judging by googles I think he has a son playing at Air Force and this article says he's got a son committed to Arkansas...
https://www.boernestar.com/article/10013,hendrix-stepping-down-as-bhs-football-coach-accepts-job-with-the-university-of-arkansas
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Sep 29, 2025, 08:05 AMImagine being TWill on Sunday and you learn that your boss was fired.
The next morning you arrive at work to a note saying "please see the head football coach immediately when you arrive."
Then you make the walk over to the head coach's office, go in, and Petrino is sitting behind the desk.
That's nightmare stuff.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FzZoztrU5rKE%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7c69aa04cc6e5fdf7d89281604d1fa9ce628f0a4ad81826f8d5c2972d3ef1712)
Should be an interesting presser at noon.
Quote from: animal on Sep 29, 2025, 08:41 AMChe Hendrix is on the support staff...former Tx high school coach. Judging by googles I think he has a son playing at Air Force and this article says he's got a son committed to Arkansas...
https://www.boernestar.com/article/10013,hendrix-stepping-down-as-bhs-football-coach-accepts-job-with-the-university-of-arkansas
The son isn't committed...at least not publicly yet...but he is pretty highly recruited. Lane Kiffin has already offered him.
Another possibility with BMFP ties...Todd Grantham, who was his DC at Louisville the second time around, just got shitcanned yesterday at Okie State. I've never been a huge fan of his, but he's a known hardass that might be able to clean up some sloppiness. If nothing else, we'll have to have bodies in those roles. I'm sure the pool of competent coaches sitting around doing nothing in early October is pretty small.
Josh Throne was talking yesterday on the 4th & 5 podcast about being on the scout team running plays against the 1 defense and watching Petrino come down and chew Willy's ass daily over one detail or another that displeased him. The new DC better have thick skin.
PS: It appears Grandpa Petrino does not exist.
Cam Ball hasn't bought in...
https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19 (https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19)
maybe pittman was given an ultimatum on these guys and said, no thanks i'll take my money. it's very unusual for an interim to make these moves.
the portal could get interesting. petrino still needs to win some games to keep the job.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 09:14 AMCam Ball hasn't bought in...
https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19 (https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19)
Not sure what to think about that. I get his coach(s) got fired but still not a good look.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 09:14 AMCam Ball hasn't bought in...
https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19 (https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19)
He's sucked as bad as anyone. Fire him too.
I wouldn't read too much into these reactions. A couple of buddy-buddy type coaches just got fired. Of course the players from whom they didn't demand enough hard work are going to be pissed.
If some of them quit, so fucking what? The eleven least athletic guys on this board could strap on the pads and allow the other team to score a TD on every possession where they were actively trying.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 29, 2025, 09:24 AMHe's sucked as bad as anyone. Fire him too.
Yep.
I would say it really looks like Petrino has some money behind him. That's a good sign. We have boosters for whom $20 million would be a rounding error. We need to get them involved.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 08:11 AMThree defensive coaches is a Wipeout.
I'm not complaining but I seriously hope someone is prepared to throw money around to bring in a bunch of temporary replacements.
Maybe throw a bunch of money of Muschamp. He's not coaching this season and might be DC for a year if the price is right.
Ohh I like that.
Currently a defensive analyst at Georgia
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:19 PMThis generation doesn't go for the old school tough ass coach way. We've pussified America.
Previous generations didn't like it, but they didn't have the transfer portal to up and leave whenever they wanted and play immediately at another school. I think most coaches are scared of the players now because of the portal. They are scared of the players leaving if they (coaches) are too hard on them. I've seen it first hand.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 28, 2025, 03:19 PMHe lost the players some how and they quit on him.
This generation doesn't go for the old school tough ass coach way. We've pussified America.
I think that's painting with too broad of a brush.
Sure, a lot of them are entitled twats who won't allow anyone to raise their voices at them. But there are plenty of kids out there who will accept hard coaching, provided the benefit of winning or getting a chance at the pros seems realistic.
For the first time in a long time, it feels like someone gives a fuck in the football program
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 29, 2025, 09:24 AMHe's sucked as bad as anyone. Fire him too.
My son just texted me he has 10 tackles and 0 sacks in 5 games. So, yeah.
Put yourself in Bobby's shoes...he's staring at a L each week to round out the season. Do you want that on your record? I'd say he had some leverage and was given full control over what happens next. At least thru the remainder of the season.
presser's going to be interesting.
and all the fire yurachek talk got gone with a quickness.
I hope he just sent these three loafers a text. You're fucking fired. Your shit is packed up; pick up your box at the reception desk. Bring your school ID and parking pass.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 29, 2025, 09:32 AMI would say it really looks like Petrino has some money behind him. That's a good sign. We have boosters for whom $20 million would be a rounding error. We need to get them involved.
It feels like BP has a lot of backing. I can't remember a head coach ever being fired and when one of the assistants were promoted to interem they had the power to immediatly clean house. This doesn't seem normal but maybe it is.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 09:14 AMCam Ball hasn't bought in...
https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19 (https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19)
See, I'd have him off the team before his next class, and that's why I'm not coaching this NIL generation of retards.
Quote from: animal on Sep 29, 2025, 09:40 AMPut yourself in Bobby's shoes...he's staring at a L each week to round out the season. Do you want that on your record? I'd say he had some leverage and was given full control over what happens next. At least thru the remainder of the season.
Either way, none of them were being retained. Might as well let him do what he thinks is best and let the chips falls where they do.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 09:52 AMIt feels like BP has a lot of backing. I can't remember a head coach ever being fired and when one of the assistants were promoted to interem they had the power to immediatly clean house. This doesn't seem normal but maybe it is.
They may have the reigns to do it, but don't because who are they going to get to fill those shoes? Also, a lot of emphasis gets put on consistency in the face of losing a HC.
Quote from: passed on Sep 29, 2025, 09:56 AMThey may have the reigns to do it, but don't because who are they going to get to fill those shoes? Also, a lot of emphasis gets put on consistency in the face of losing a HC.
Then why do it? I mean, if BP doesn't think he really has a shot to be the next HC why make those firings. Just ride out the eyar and everyone moves on. He has to feel like he has a real shot for this to turn permanent. These moves signal he is planning for the future.
or it was something pittman was told to do and he didn't. if that was the case, they were getting canned regardless.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 10:00 AMThen why do it? I mean, if BP doesn't think he really has a shot to be the next HC why make those firings. Just ride out the eyar and everyone moves on. He has to feel like he has a real shot for this to turn permanent. These moves signal he is planning for the future.
I wasn't commenting on Petrino, really. More responding to your statement regarding other interims not canning coordinators and coaches. They may have that power, they may not have. I don't know. Just saying that they may have had it and simply didn't use it for the reasons I stated.
You may be right in how Petrino is thinking right now. He very well could be taking this as a serious shot and planning for the future. Or, to play devil's advocate here, he may not like Twill and crew and simply figures an untrained monkey can do better so got rid of him. There may also be something to the rumors about in fighting between them... and he said fuck you you're out because he doesn't want opposition from his coordinators. Could be as simple as he figures it's the only way to get the D off their asses and actually playing. Might have nothing to do with the future but the right here and now. No idea.
What we do know is, Bobby is showing he still has some "motherfucker" left in him... and we can hope that translates to a culture shift.
it won't happen, but i want us to take on the heel role, full wwe style. bmfp walks out in all black and sunglasses, says "Bobby Motherfucking Petrino is back", picks up a steel chair and hits Yurachek over the head with it and walks out. somebody cues ac/dc back in black and blares it over the speakers.
I'll give Cam Ball a break, dude reportedly turned down a lot of money to stay here. Deke became a father figure after his dad passed this summer.
But it is a reality check that this is a results world
Quote from: passed on Sep 29, 2025, 10:09 AMI wasn't commenting on Petrino, really. More responding to your statement regarding other interims not canning coordinators and coaches. They may have that power, they may not have. I don't know. Just saying that they may have had it and simply didn't use it for the reasons I stated.
You may be right in how Petrino is thinking right now. He very well could be taking this as a serious shot and planning for the future. Or, to play devil's advocate here, he may not like Twill and crew and simply figures an untrained monkey can do better so got rid of him. There may also be something to the rumors about in fighting between them... and he said fuck you you're out because he doesn't want opposition from his coordinators. Could be as simple as he figures it's the only way to get the D off their asses and actually playing. Might have nothing to do with the future but the right here and now. No idea.
What we do know is, Bobby is showing he still has some "motherfucker" left in him... and we can hope that translates to a culture shift.
:thumb_up: I wasn't trying to be argumentative if that is how it came across.
100% on the bolded part. I hope BP turns things around this year. BMFP was a glourious thing.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 29, 2025, 09:51 AMI hope he just sent these three loafers a text. You're fucking fired. Your shit is packed up; pick up your box at the reception desk. Bring your school ID and parking pass.
Rumor is he posted a letter on their lockers.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 10:11 AMit won't happen, but i want us to take on the heel role, full wwe style. bmfp walks out in all black and sunglasses, says "Bobby Motherfucking Petrino is back", picks up a steel chair and hits Yurachek over the head with it and walks out. somebody cues ac/dc back in black and blares it over the speakers.
What if BP does all that but his first move is to repell from the Barnhill rafters during his introduction press conference?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 10:11 AMit won't happen, but i want us to take on the heel role, full wwe style. bmfp walks out in all black and sunglasses, says "Bobby Motherfucking Petrino is back", picks up a steel chair and hits Yurachek over the head with it and walks out. somebody cues ac/dc back in black and blares it over the speakers.
Not bad. But there needs to be a motorcycle entrance or exit. Or at least use a motorcycle sound as part of the intro and exit.
https://x.com/clowfb/status/1972678325517664714?t=1LSSuWf4eagj0lPRW07Shw&s=19 (https://x.com/clowfb/status/1972678325517664714?t=1LSSuWf4eagj0lPRW07Shw&s=19)
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 09:52 AMIt feels like BP has a lot of backing. I can't remember a head coach ever being fired and when one of the assistants were promoted to interem they had the power to immediatly clean house. This doesn't seem normal but maybe it is.
I had the same thought. It does have the feel that there are quite a few money folks and decision makers in BP's corner.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Sep 29, 2025, 10:15 AMNot bad. But there needs to be a motorcycle entrance or exit. Or at least use a motorcycle sound as part of the intro and exit.
Blaring Girls Girls Girls by Motley Crue
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 10:11 AMit won't happen, but i want us to take on the heel role, full wwe style. bmfp walks out in all black and sunglasses, says "Bobby Motherfucking Petrino is back", picks up a steel chair and hits Yurachek over the head with it and walks out. somebody cues ac/dc back in black and blares it over the speakers.
If he walks out with a black outfit and a black neck brace, then rips that fucker off to show a big gold chain that has BMFP in big letters around his neck. Puts on a black hat and says, Press Conference Over, we got fucking work to day.
Mike Irwin is saying Lashlee is the guy most want, but Lashlee is across the Arkansas job is a career killer.
Has anything Mike Irwin ever said turned out to be remotely true regarding a coaching search?
Well, we have our first retard of the day...
On the firing of T-Will The Rapper Gawd:
https://x.com/SmithLakeAgent/status/1972656661253755233
Quote from: flash23 on Sep 29, 2025, 10:19 AMMike Irwin is saying Lashlee is the guy most want, but Lashlee is across the Arkansas job is a career killer.
Has anything Mike Irwin ever said turned out to be remotely true regarding a coaching search?
No.
In fact, I think the literal opposite is what is true right now.
Lashley would love the job, but big money guys think they can steal a big name and view Lashley as a fallback.
The problem backstabber coaches are gone.
Quote from: flash23 on Sep 29, 2025, 10:19 AMMike Irwin is saying Lashlee is the guy most want, but Lashlee is across the Arkansas job is a career killer.
Has anything Mike Irwin ever said turned out to be remotely true regarding a coaching search?
No, he hasn't. The sources he has all give him the mushroom treatment.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 10:13 AM:thumb_up: I wasn't trying to be argumentative if that is how it came across.
100% on the bolded part. I hope BP turns things around this year. BMFP was a glourious thing.
The BMFP days were the best. We always had hope in every game. The games were fun to watch and winning felt so damned good... and we had a winner's culture. I, like everyone here, yearn for more of those days. So I'm hoping like hell we see some real BMFP, even if it is only for the rest of this year.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 10:22 AMThe problem backstabber coaches are gone.
Seriously, what was the issue?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 10:20 AMWell, we have our first retard of the day...
On the firing of T-Will The Rapper Gawd:
https://x.com/SmithLakeAgent/status/1972656661253755233
He told us he's a Tylenol-American without telling us...
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 10:16 AMhttps://x.com/clowfb/status/1972678325517664714?t=1LSSuWf4eagj0lPRW07Shw&s=19 (https://x.com/clowfb/status/1972678325517664714?t=1LSSuWf4eagj0lPRW07Shw&s=19)
i still think pittman was given an ultimatum to can these guys, one last chance to get under .500, but told them to fire him now.
Pittman wasn't told anything but to hit the road.
In my opinion, Pittman was fired after Memphis. With a national game coming, guess the brass thought he would go out with a bang instead of a whimper. Yeah...
Everything felt different Saturday.
Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 29, 2025, 10:56 AMIn my opinion, Pittman was fired after Memphis. With a national game coming, guess the brass thought he would go out with a bang instead of a whimper. Yeah...
Everything felt different Saturday.
I think it's more like he knew the writing was on the wall, but if we somehow came out and beat Notre Dame, whatever talk of firing him mid-season would have ended and he would have been given the chance to turn it around this year.
Instead, because he was lazy and uninspiring, the team gave up on him after Memphis, and we basically slept-walked our way to a blowout loss vs ND.
Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 29, 2025, 10:56 AMIn my opinion, Pittman was fired after Memphis. With a national game coming, guess the brass thought he would go out with a bang instead of a whimper. Yeah...
Everything felt different Saturday.
And the reasoning is the bye week this week and not having a shitshow on Saturday, which happened anyway
Quote from: PorkyPig on Sep 29, 2025, 09:39 AMMy son just texted me he has 10 tackles and 0 sacks in 5 games. So, yeah.
I saw him come to the sideline Saturday like he had ran 50 gassers. It was the 1st qtr.
Bobby just met with the band director. He's gone too.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 11:13 AMBobby just met with the band director. He's gone too.
then this has all been worth it
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 11:13 AMBobby just met with the band director. He's gone too.
:maundoed:
I haven't been to a live game yet due to family issues, so I have no idea how bad the band has gotten since last year.
Did they really go back to playing, Hey Jude?
Somebody on Nobville just posted this about the team meeting. God I hope this is true.
QuoteParaphrasing from someone who said they were there:
You aren't just college kids anymore. You are making good money and some more than the coaches. You are going to earn it.
This is your job and you will be expected to earn your money.
Some of you may not like it but you will have bosses in life you don't like but they earned the right to be boss like I have to coach. If you want to talk about my history here today my door is open. After today it will never be discussed again.
I'm a winner and I expect to win and go to a bowl. I want this job and if you aren't ready to work you will be replaced.
We have a second chance on season. I expect to get better and I am going to ride your asses. Some of you haven't bought in this year and I am aware of you. This ends now.
I'm bringing in some coaches that will ride you hard. Expect it. This is a tremendous university and I know I can win here and expect everyone in this room to get on board and earn my respect.
We will win and make this special state proud again and feared to be on other programs schedule.
It starts now.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Sep 29, 2025, 11:18 AM:maundoed:
I haven't been to a live game yet due to family issues, so I have no idea how bad the band has gotten since last year.
Did they really go back to playing, Hey Jude?
Yes. It's bad.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 29, 2025, 11:21 AMSomebody on Nobville just posted this about the team meeting. God I hope this is true.
I don't care if that is fake as shit, I'm ready to run through some fucking walls for BMFP.
I am erect. Just thought y'all should know.
I'm ready to go fuck a volleyball chick...or their hot mom to be more accurate. Gonna have to go check out a Southlake Volleyball game or two to scope out the MILF talent.
I want to know what the issue has been with the backstabbers. Only one poster keeps talking about it but obvoiusly doesn't know the details. Can anyone help?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 11:33 AMI want to know what the issue has been with the backstabbers. Only one poster keeps talking about it but obvoiusly doesn't know the details. Can anyone help?
yeah, and what's up with all the talk of wives? is this some discord insider shit?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 29, 2025, 11:21 AMSomebody on Nobville just posted this about the team meeting. God I hope this is true.
Bobby Motherfucking Petrino
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 11:33 AMI want to know what the issue has been with the backstabbers. Only one poster keeps talking about it but obvoiusly doesn't know the details. Can anyone help?
He can only post what he reads on nobville, and since their goober mods don't know anything, neither does he.
This isn't the first time we've had "coaching issues in the locker room"....it's almost like the head coach didn't command anyone's respect. Also wasn't the S&C coach's wife really vocal shortly after dude getting the job here...like there was bad blood almost immediately. The last S&C guy was the "issue" from what I could figure out...I'm betting the real issue is nobody up there wants to "work".
We're still gonna suck, but we're going to beat someone we're not supposed to this year.
This about makes me want to cry. For the first time in a long time we have someone who knows what can be done here and who will NOT make excuses and who will demand accountability. The adults are back in charge.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 11:41 AMHe can only post what he reads on nobville, and since their goober mods don't know anything, neither does he.
Yeah...that's it. How do you think I also knew about Sam and Rex Ryan forcing Kurt Anderson on Bert?
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 11:46 AMYeah...that's it. How do you think I also knew about Sam and Rex Ryan forcing Kurt Anderson on Bert?
So what was the issues with the coaches and their wives?
QuoteI expect to get better and I am going to ride your asses. Some of you haven't bought in this year and I am aware of you. This ends now.
It's like 2010-2011 Bobby just stepped out of a time machine and murdered his future self right in front of the players' eyes.
Grandpa Bobby is dead.
BMFP is back.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 11:47 AMIt's like 2010-2011 Bobby just stepped out of a time machine and murdered his future self right in front of the players' eyes.
Grandpa Bobby is dead.
BMFP is back.
It's gonna be weird the first time they pan to him on the sidelines.
That's why he was in the box this year. Because last year all they did was pan to him like he was already HC.
Have the press conference pulled up. Fricking Hunter with the strategically placed coke bottles.
Sure, he pays attention to those details.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 11:51 AMIt's gonna be borderline all the way erotic the first time they pan to him on the sidelines.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 29, 2025, 11:21 AMSomebody on Nobville just posted this about the team meeting. God I hope this is true.
2:30 team meeting. Did Marty McFly post it?
Pretty much drug Williams under the bus.
Just let the fans pay to get a play calling series to support NIL. Season is over anyway. "Sir you've run cowboy get it pass four straight plays."
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Sep 29, 2025, 12:09 PM2:30 team meeting. Did Marty McFly post it?
lol. yeah that's why do don't trust anything those mouth breathers over there post.
I'm confused...I haven't heard "I don't know" not even once so far.
Bobby's been suppressing his dark powers since 2012. He knew he had to avoid becoming too successful and entrenched somewhere else because being an OC was the only way to get back into the school. No one celebrated as hard as he did when we hired Dan Enos back.
BP said one of the issues is the team hasn't been playing as one unit. Offense, Defense, and STs need to come together and play as one team.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 12:11 PMPretty much drug Williams under the bus.
Then he backed the bus up and ran over him again.
They're going off on Hunter about his comments a few weeks ago
Can anyone be specific about what he said about Williams? As close to a quote as possible?
Hunter just said Pittman didn't have the financial resources to compete in the conference. Wish the follow up would have been why can't we compete with the Memphis' of the world too?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:14 PMBP said one of the issues is the team hasn't been playing as one unit. Offense, Defense, and STs need to come together and play as one team.
Since the defense hasn't been playing at all, it follows that they haven't played "as a unit" with the others.
Just follow up and said the next coach will have the financial reources needed to compete.
Williams and Deke were trouble. Deke has always been a turd since he was coaching in Arkansas 20+ years ago.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 29, 2025, 12:16 PMCan anyone be specific about what he said about Williams? As close to a quote as possible?
(On defense) "we first have to learn how to get lined up right, get in the right stance, and then run to the ball."
Basically "our players weren't taught the fundamentals and their laziness was never challenged."
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 29, 2025, 12:16 PMCan anyone be specific about what he said about Williams? As close to a quote as possible?
Said we need to get back to basics. Use correct technique, be in the right position, run to the ball, tackle, etc
Said we have to start from scratch and establish a base defense.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 12:18 PM(On defense) "we first have to learn how to get lined up right, get in the right stance, and then run to the ball."
Basically "our players weren't taught the fundamentals and their laziness was never challenged."
and he ended with "we need to tackle"
HY says next coach will:
Proven winner
Can build a culture
Has energy and can reenergize the program
Keyest thing is be able to embrace and adapt to the college game; scouting, transfer portal, etc.
Mentioned needing to get plays out of ST as well.
My piss is warming up rapidly.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:19 PMHY says next coach will:
Proven winner
Can build a culture
Has energy and can reenergize the program
Keyest thing is be able to embrace and adapt to the college game; scouting, transfer portal, etc.
The anti-Pittman. Literally all of those things were issues Sam struggled with.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:19 PMHY says next coach will:
Proven winner
Can build a culture
Has energy and can reenergize the program
Keyest thing is be able to embrace and adapt to the college game; scouting, transfer portal, etc.
HDN checks a lot of boxes.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 12:20 PMMentioned needing to get plays out of ST as well.
Yeah, lost in all this is the fact that the ST coach was Sam's first hire and has been with him from the jump.
I wonder how that goes.
Our media will always ask retarded questions.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 29, 2025, 12:21 PMMy piss is warming up rapidly.
He obviously was not happy with the way things were going.
For BP to get the job HY says;
Great leadership
Not about wins/losses
See a team that is competative
Find the good team and get them on the field
Hunter saying he doesn't expect Bobby to win out, and just wants to see us be competitive again.
That's obviously a diplomatic response. I think it's clear that Bobby has no chance of retention if we don't at least win a couple SEC games, probably three. Five wins (in total) MIGHT keep him here. Six probably means he stays. More than that and it's basically a guarantee.
BP says he can naviagte the things HY laid out but he is focused on these 9 weeks.
Yurachek said he's not expecting miracles, like going 7-0, and Petrino will not be judged on the win loss record. Said he's not expecting Petrino to wave magic dust.
Wouldn't be fair to judge on that, but he wants to see the team respond and play hard and improvement.
He's going to murder the next male that calls him Bobby
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 12:26 PMHunter saying he doesn't expect Bobby to win out, and just wants to see us be competitive again.
That's obviously a diplomatic response. I think it's clear that Bobby has no chance of retention if we don't at least win a couple SEC games, probably three. Five wins (in total) MIGHT keep him here. Six probably means he stays. More than that and it's basically a guarantee.
I somewhat diagree. I think HY, like the fans, are looking for effort going foward. The season is lost. It just is. And there are significant issues with what the previous coaches have done. That is clear. I think HY is going to evaluate BP on his ability to right the ship going foward.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 12:26 PMHunter saying he doesn't expect Bobby to win out, and just wants to see us be competitive again.
That's obviously a diplomatic response. I think it's clear that Bobby has no chance of retention if we don't at least win a couple SEC games, probably three. Five wins (in total) MIGHT keep him here. Six probably means he stays. More than that and it's basically a guarantee.
and that's why petrino said he's not worrying about the hc job possibility, just the next 9 weeks.
I am so fired up. The firings this morning. The leadership. The accountability.
He is going to drive these kids and go back to basic fundamentals.
The lazy shit is over at the University of Arkansas.
BMFP is back! He's laser focused on 9 weeks. 9 weeks to get this piss hot. My piss is hot right now.
From all of Hunter's comments, reading between the lines, it sounds like we were totally caught flat-footed with the change of the sport (NIL, etc), and we tried to put things together on they and hope Sam worked out. Now that he hasn't, we're hitting the reset button and starting with a whole new mentality for approaching the portal and player payments, etc.
BP missed being on the sideline. Weird as he was in total control of where he sat. Almost like he was fed up with the coaches and just wanted to be away from it all.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:29 PMI somewhat diagree. I think HY, like the fans, are looking for effort going foward. The season is lost. It just is. And there are significant issues with what the previous coaches have done. That is clear. I think HY is going to evaluate BP on his ability to right the ship going foward.
Player buy in will be a big part.
BP said again about the defense..."they will run to the ball" He has said that a few times now.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:29 PMI somewhat diagree. I think HY, like the fans, are looking for effort going foward. The season is lost. It just is. And there are significant issues with what the previous coaches have done. That is clear. I think HY is going to evaluate BP on his ability to right the ship going foward.
Maybe, I just think the politics of it all means Bobby needs to prove "Bobby's back." It's hard to imagine us losing a bunch of close games anymore. Either the team will buy in and we'll win the games like we almost did vs Ole Miss, or the team will give up on him, in which case I don't think Bobby will be able to convince the big money guys to give him a fresh start. I think the big money guys want a Cal-type splash hire but are fine with sticking with Bobby if he wins. If he doesn't win, no matter the circumstances, I don't think he stays.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 12:31 PMPlayer buy in will be a big part.
100%. If he can keep the team together and they improve effort then he might get the chance to right the wrongs from 2012.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:30 PMBP missed being on the sideline. Weird as he was in total control of where he sat. Almost like he was fed up with the coaches and just wanted to be away from it all.
I believe this. He didn't want to be on the ground with that shit show. He knew before the season started they were in trouble.
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 29, 2025, 12:34 PMI believe this. He didn't want to be on the ground with that shit show. He knew before the season started they were in trouble.
I wouldn't either I imagine it was more of let me bite my lip and stay away or he might say something he'd regret
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 29, 2025, 12:33 PMMaybe, I just think the politics of it all means Bobby needs to prove "Bobby's back." It's hard to imagine us losing a bunch of close games anymore. Either the team will buy in and we'll win the games like we almost did vs Ole Miss, or the team will give up on him, in which case I don't think Bobby will be able to convince the big money guys to give him a fresh start. I think the big money guys want a Cal-type splash hire but are fine with sticking with Bobby if he wins. If he doesn't win, no matter the circumstances, I don't think he stays.
not just the politics.
yurachek made it very clear they will reach out to other guys, like now. they won't spend the money and time, or extend the offers like yurachek said they would, if they have their guy already.
petrino may very well be the next hc but i don't see it like a lock as some on here.
I don't think BP is a lock. He needs to perform over the next 9 games.
I'll say this, I want BP. For the first time in 6 years we had a head coach at the podium. It felt good.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:33 PMBP said again about the defense..."they will run to the ball" He has said that a few times now.
He has seen what I have seen. I doubt you could go back to watch any game where we had more than 4-5 players at a tackle. I enjoy watching 11 go to the ball, as should anyone who gives a shit about playing football.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 12:21 PMHDN checks a lot of boxes.
I know I've said I would mail back my degree if that turd was ever employed at the U of A again, but I'd make an exception if Bobby would hire Nutt as his offensive coordinator...without play calling duties.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:38 PMI don't think BP is a lock. He needs to perform over the next 9 games.
I'll say this, I want BP. For the first time in 6 years we had a head coach at the podium. It felt good.
i'd be perfectly happy with the guy. but to think that, despite how hard they play, getting 50 put on us by the vols and aggie isn't going to matter, doesn't make sense to me.
he's going to have to win some games on the scoreboard.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 12:44 PMi'd be perfectly happy with the guy. but to think that, despite how hard they play, getting 50 put on us by the vols and aggie isn't going to matter, doesn't make sense to me.
he's going to have to win some games on the scoreboard.
To be fair, there isn't head coach alive that could be put into the head coaching positon that could prevent 50 by the vols and aggies. BP has nothing to do with the roster and scheme for this year. I think HY understands that.
Quote from: Loma on Sep 29, 2025, 12:40 PMHe has seen what I have seen. I doubt you could go back to watch any game where we had more than 4-5 players at a tackle. I enjoy watching 11 go to the ball, as should anyone who gives a shit about playing football.
There was one play Saturday...may have been the last TD before halftime...where we had three guys in perfect position surrounding the ND pass receiver. The only way out was to go backwards or run through three guys. Yet somehow he made it through them without being touched, and went on to score on a breakaway.
You could pick any three of us, place us in that exact same spot, and I think we could've tackled the ball carrier. We almost had to go out of our way to let him out.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:46 PMTo be fair, there isn't head coach alive that could be put into the head coaching positon that could prevent 50 by the vols and aggies. BP has nothing to do with the roster and scheme for this year. I think HY understands that.
ok, but we've heard, somewhat correctly, that the talent is there and the coaches were the problem.
change coaches and now it's the talent. or that will be the excuse moving forward maybe.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 12:50 PMok, but we've heard, somewhat correctly, that the talent is there and the coaches were the problem.
change coaches and now it's the talent. or that will be the excuse moving forward maybe.
That wasn't what I was trying to say.
It is alot to ask of any coach to come in 5 games into the season and fundamentally change the defense and STs. Even with great talent you need an offseason with consistent coaching to make a great unit.
I'm hopefull that HY is truthful when he says he doesn't expect miracles. He wants to see effort.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 29, 2025, 11:21 AMSomebody on Nobville just posted this about the team meeting. God I hope this is true.
Stop it. My dick can only get so hard. I may need to go to the ER.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 01:00 PMStop it. My dick can only get so hard. I may need to go to the ER.
uh..it has already been shown that did not happen.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 29, 2025, 01:00 PMStop it. My dick can only get so hard. I may need to go to the ER.
especially impressive considering he won't meet with the team for the first time for another hour and a half.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 01:01 PMuh..it has already been shown that did not happen.
IT'S REAL TO ME DAMMIT!
It's close enough I'm going to say someone got an advance copy if his speech.
Can he tell the players that anyone who hits the portal can fuck right off? Pack your shit and get out of my locker room and off of my campus, and leave anything with a Razorback on it behind?
That would change my stiffy to a full on boner.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 01:01 PMuh..it has already been shown that did not happen.
I'm behind. Been a little busy at work today.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 29, 2025, 11:13 AMBobby just met with the band director. He's gone too.
The band needs to go full HBCU style as best they can
:maundoed:
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The apathy is gone and the BMFP shirt has been ordered. LFG.
Member when certain retards said he had to be fired or there would be lawsuits? Yeah, they were retards
Member when certain retards said he could NEVER be hired again because of state law? Yeah, they were retards
Quote from: Cornhogio on Sep 29, 2025, 01:11 PMCan he tell the players that anyone who hits the portal can fuck right off? Pack your shit and get out of my locker room and off of my campus, and leave anything with a Razorback on it behind?
That would change my stiffy to a full on boner.
once they enter the portal they haven't they already fucked the right off? players are allowed to stay in school when they enter the portal.
https://www.rockcityoutfitters.com/products/bmfp-tee
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 01:24 PMonce they enter the portal they haven't they already fucked the right off? players are allowed to stay in school when they enter the portal.
I thought if they didn't get what they wanted or if their current school upped their NIL they could stay.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 29, 2025, 01:18 PM:maundoed:
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Well that's the winner for the day.
HY mentioned twice his plan to form a talent evaluation department responsible for scouring game tape from D II on up in order to identify potential portal targets in advance.
I'm not sure that kind of proactive strategy is allowed on the Hill.
Quote from: FNG on Sep 29, 2025, 01:30 PMHY mentioned twice his plan to form a talent evaluation department responsible for scouring game tape from D II on up in order to identify potential portal targets in advance.
I'm not sure that kind of proactive strategy is allowed on the Hill.
So far, it seems like we get players from the vortex of a toilet when being flushed.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 29, 2025, 01:25 PMhttps://www.rockcityoutfitters.com/products/bmfp-tee
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Up until today I've had this in my shopping cart. Couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. Glad I didn't.
The "Turn that Damn Jukebox On!" has been marked down to $10. They should donate all sales proceeds to the NIL fund.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Sep 29, 2025, 01:26 PMI thought if they didn't get what they wanted or if their current school upped their NIL they could stay.
they still get their scholly for that academic term if they hit the portal.
the nil stuff is specific to the deal the player signs for and since it's not 'supposed' to be tied to performance on the field, and typically ends at the end of the year, they'll get that too.
that's why players enter the portal but wait until after the end of the year to actually transfer so they would still get the nil money.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 01:38 PMThe "Turn that Damn Jukebox On!" has been marked down to $10. They should donate all sales proceeds to the NIL fund.
Nah, this calls for a raffle
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Sep 29, 2025, 01:22 PMMember when certain retards said he had to be fired or there would be lawsuits? Yeah, they were retards
Member when certain retards said he could NEVER be hired again because of state law? Yeah, they were retards
I made one post about it when they hired him at oc and one post about it when they promoted him yesterday. I'm still pissed about it over a decade later, but that's not going to change the past. I fear that Bob gets the nod and never comes close to the past glory and all of the cocksukers who made it happen and said there was no other choice will be lined up to say I told you so. I think BP has this in his mind as well. That's motivation for a 60 year old. He has one last chance to prove he belongs. He has an opportunity to show the college football world that he truly is one of the football geniuses of his time. That's different than taking it because nobody wants the job or simply because it's his turn. He won't go into with an attitude of I'll do my best but don't expect much. I don't see this as him looking for his retirement bonus. I see this as an opportunity to secure his legacy. I also believe he knows how to do it. He's done it here before.
I'm assuming a plumber is installing a new toilet as we speak.
The guy is still one of the top three to four schemers...I'll take him as a head coach for the next couple of years......I would bet anyone any amount of money that we are a much better football team at the end of the year...if they will buy in, we can compete with everyone we play the rest of the season
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Sep 29, 2025, 02:18 PMThe guy is still one of the top three to four schemers...I'll take him as a head coach for the next couple of years......I would bet anyone any amount of money that we are a much better football team at the end of the year...if they will buy in, we can compete with everyone we play the rest of the season
The key is buy in. I'm not sure he has the leaders on this team to get everyone else to get on board. When he was here the first time it was Ryan Mallett that was that guy. He (per Tyler Wilson - in One Five) was the big difference maker and got the team to buy in.
My concern is that such leaders on this team don't exist... and that these guys genuinely don't give a fuck.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 29, 2025, 02:08 PMI made one post about it when they hired him at oc and one post about it when they promoted him yesterday. I'm still pissed about it over a decade later, but that's not going to change the past. I fear that Bob gets the nod and never comes close to the past glory and all of the cocksukers who made it happen and said there was no other choice will be lined up to say I told you so. I think BP has this in his mind as well. That's motivation for a 60 year old. He has one last chance to prove he belongs. He has an opportunity to show the college football world that he truly is one of the football geniuses of his time. That's different than taking it because nobody wants the job or simply because it's his turn. He won't go into with an attitude of I'll do my best but don't expect much. I don't see this as him looking for his retirement bonus. I see this as an opportunity to secure his legacy. I also believe he knows how to do it. He's done it here before.
Hoenstly, I think he knows he fucked us over and wants to make amends. I think that is what will drive him.
The meeting is going on right now, so can't change anything.
But Petrino should have got a bunch of players he coached up to the pros to show up and walk in behind him.
Especially the non 4 and 5 stars.
I say give BMFP three years. Either he improves us, or we continue to be Arkansas.
At least in my mind, I'll get the what ifs from 2012 out of my own head.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Sep 29, 2025, 02:30 PMI say give BMFP three years. Either he improves us, or we continue to be Arkansas.
At least in my mind, I'll get the what ifs from 2012 out of my own head.
I'd be in favor of this. However, it also depends (as many have pointed out on here) on who is going to get the money in. If he doesn't get the purse strings loosened and there's money behind another candidate, we will have to, and should, go with that guy.
Quote from: passed on Sep 29, 2025, 02:32 PMI'd be in favor of this. However, it also depends (as many have pointed out on here) on who is going to get the money in. If he doesn't get the purse strings loosened and there's money behind another candidate, we will have to, and should, go with that guy.
Devil's advocate: Arkansas Money Guys don't have a great track record when it comes to pushing a coach on us.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 02:34 PMDevil's advocate: Arkansas Money Guys don't have a great track record when it comes to pushing a coach on us.
You are not wrong! The proverbial rock and hard place.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 29, 2025, 02:09 PMI'm assuming a plumber is installing a new toilet as we speak.
Well done
I just sooooo want to be a fly on the wall for the team meeting and the D coach firings. I wish this shit was on video for us all to watch. Be worth that money I waste on Hogs+.
Allowing BMFP to fire half the defensive coaches seems like an act of faith from Yuri, or someone with authority.
IMO, Bobby's the man unless he falls on his face the rest of the way. And I'm fine with that.
How many of these snowflakes hit the upcoming portal opening?
Quote from: obijuana on Sep 29, 2025, 03:04 PMIMO, Bobby's the man unless he falls on his face the rest of the way. And I'm fine with that.
Yep. We all know this could crash and road rash out, but frick it, let's take the gamble.
Beat Tennessee and then have Bobby and the team walk out of the tunnel to Voodoo Child against A&M.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 02:34 PMDevil's advocate: Arkansas Money Guys don't have a great track record when it comes to pushing a coach on us.
no, but they are the ones who are going to make this hire happen. they're going to be asked to give more than they ever have and it seems like a at least a couple have someone in mind.
petrino has nine weeks to state his case.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 12:57 PMThat wasn't what I was trying to say.
It is alot to ask of any coach to come in 5 games into the season and fundamentally change the defense and STs. Even with great talent you need an offseason with consistent coaching to make a great unit.
I'm hopefull that HY is truthful when he says he doesn't expect miracles. He wants to see effort.
You don't have to change the defensive scheme at all. It's the giveafuckatude that we need to improve.
Quote from: Hognrock on Sep 29, 2025, 03:19 PMYou don't have to change the defensive scheme at all. It's the giveafuckatude that we need to improve.
Except BP, in the noon presser, talked about figuring out what our base defense is going to be as part of the overal change that is needed.
Quote from: Hognrock on Sep 29, 2025, 03:19 PMYou don't have to change the defensive scheme at all. It's the giveafuckatude that we need to improve.
Yeah, Bobby didn't say we had bad schemes, just bad basic fundamentals.
Petrino and third and Grantham wouldn't be very exciting if that's who they go with.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 03:21 PMExcept BP, in the noon presser, talked about figuring out what our base defense is going to be as part of the overal change that is needed.
I think he's referring to 4-3 or a 5-2 defense. The kids that have made it to this level know how to tackle, run to the ball, etc. Scheme doesn't matter, again it's effort that's killing us right now.
Quote from: FNG on Sep 29, 2025, 01:30 PMHY mentioned twice his plan to form a talent evaluation department responsible for scouring game tape from D II on up in order to identify potential portal targets in advance.
I'm not sure that kind of proactive strategy is allowed on the Hill.
We aren't poors but just in case we are we are going to create a scouting department costing untold amounts of money to kick over every rock in FCS, D2 thru 3.
Quote from: Hognrock on Sep 29, 2025, 03:27 PMI think he's referring to 4-3 or a 5-2 defense. The kids that have made it to this level know how to tackle, run to the ball, etc. Scheme doesn't matter, again it's effort that's killing us right now.
:thumb_up:
i liked the 3-3-5 that west virginia ran under rich rodriquez the first time around. although, i think it was better in teh ea sports ncaa football than it was in reality.
I think whatever defense you can pencil in for a defense that has zero push on the line, zero linebackers to stop the run, and zero db's that can cover an old lady in a wheel chair. Whatever defense that is that can maybe slow somebody down or making them mildly annoyed will be better than whatever the fuck we have now.
It's been implied by the guys on 4th and 5 that they think T-Will thought he had a db group of Deion's out there or something because we were really hanging guys out to dry in our coverages. We aren't nearly that good to be doing that is what was implied. I tend to agree. So I think the answer to that is more zone.
Our safety play especially has been a weak link made even worse because our linebackers refuse to stop anybody.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 09:14 AMCam Ball hasn't bought in...
https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19 (https://x.com/CamBam54/status/1972655127862403261?t=OZ-bd9_QRrLohx9UJ5V8tw&s=19)
Can somebody parse this? I have been tied up all day and catching up. This twat has been deleted.
it was a thumbs down emoji. maybe something changed after the meeting with petrino?
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2025, 06:09 PMit was a thumbs down emoji. maybe something changed after the meeting with petrino?
Probably his dose of reality during the presser when he pointed out that you can't transfer and play right now.
If you want to transfer, your best bet to transfer well and make some money is to show up and show out in the next 7 games.
I'm sure he repeated that to the players. Basically, play hard or Bobby can bury you and you'll be left transferring to Jonesboro or Tulsa.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Sep 29, 2025, 06:20 PMProbably his dose of reality during the presser when he pointed out that you can't transfer and play right now.
If you want to transfer, your best bet to transfer well and make some money is to show up and show out in the next 7 games.
I'm sure he repeated that to the players. Basically, play hard or Bobby can bury you and you'll be left transferring to Jonesboro or Tulsa.
Speaking of Jonesboro. How bad do you have to be to have been boat raced by the 2025 Pittman Razorbacks?
I've had a few beers and a puff but goddamn I love seeing Bobby Petrino doing a press conference. I love that fucker.
Quote from: wmr on Sep 29, 2025, 06:43 PMI've had a few beers and a puff but goddamn I love seeing Bobby Petrino doing a press conference. I love that fucker.
I want to see a Calipari Petrino joint appearance so that the sports internet can collectively explode.
Number of quarters before we get our first AYFSM?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 06:46 PMNumber of quarters before we get our first AYFSM?
or a "look my players in the eye"
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 29, 2025, 06:46 PMNumber of quarters before we get our first AYFSM?
Zero point five
I'd love to see a giveashit from our guys. Hopefully BMFP can get that in them.
Bobby knew in spring 2024 that KJ Jackson was the future of this football team. In a panic of a move in Dec 2023, they bought Taylen. They had no backup plan. Bobby's choice and Fletch's money.
They had to play him. He prays to the Lord (which I have no problems with) but he is borderline retarded (Vince Young level Wonderlics) and is not fit to be QB1 in SEC play. His only future in football is at WR and I pray that he is there and KJ is taking snaps in Knoxville.
I think that is gonna be interesting to see as well. Was Green Petrino's guy? He has raved about KJ.
Yeah...Petrino recruited Green while at MOST.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2025, 06:31 PMSpeaking of Jonesboro. How bad do you have to be to have been boat raced by the 2025 Pittman Razorbacks?
That was our Super Bowl.
it was their superbowl also until the game was played.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Sep 29, 2025, 07:03 PMBobby knew in spring 2024 that KJ Jackson was the future of this football team. In a panic of a move in Dec 2023, they bought Taylen. They had no backup plan. Bobby's choice and Fletch's money.
They had to play him. He prays to the Lord (which I have no problems with) but he is borderline retarded (Vince Young level Wonderlics) and is not fit to be QB1 in SEC play. His only future in football is at WR and I pray that he is there and KJ is taking snaps in Knoxville.
I think Petrino likes Green and has stubbornly stuck with him for a reason. I'm relatively confident if he thought that KJ was a better option, he'd have been playing him.
Quote from: passed on Sep 29, 2025, 07:31 PMI think Petrino likes Green and has stubbornly stuck with him for a reason. I'm relatively confident if he thought that KJ was a better option, he'd have been playing him.
I have a feeling that if Green shits the bed bad enough, we'll see KJ.
Petrino is going to go balls out and do whatever he can to get the full time job. He's going to go with the best option, damn the commitments or NIL agreements.
Remember, Green got benched for a series last year against Auburn, in a game we
won.
Quote from: passed on Sep 29, 2025, 07:31 PMI think Petrino likes Green and has stubbornly stuck with him for a reason. I'm relatively confident if he thought that KJ was a better option, he'd have been playing him.
Maybe. Or maybe not. I guess we will see soon enough. I could see there being pressure to play the top NIL guy too. But, I think Bobby has a long leash the rest of this season to do it his way. I think we will see it evidenced on all 3 phases. He's an extreme micro manager and demands exceptional efforts. Whether he gets that or not, will determine his future here.
Goes without saying, but it'll be interesting to see what the crowds are like the rest of the way in Fayetteville.
I suppose that might somewhat be determined how we do against Tennessee and whether we play an egg with a team full of quit, but I could see turnout being decent to good just to see a Bobby P led team, at least until the novelty wears off.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 29, 2025, 09:06 PMMaybe. Or maybe not. I guess we will see soon enough. I could see there being pressure to play the top NIL guy too. But, I think Bobby has a long leash the rest of this season to do it his way. I think we will see it evidenced on all 3 phases. He's an extreme micro manager and demands exceptional efforts. Whether he gets that or not, will determine his future here.
I'm not sold on the notion that Bobby would be pressured by NIL. I think he stubbornly clings to some things, we all know he has a history of doing that. He also has a love of guys that can do special things. He used to frequently say of Mallett that there were 3-4 plays every game that no other QB could have made. He has said similar about Green. Which also brings up a real pro/con of Bobby's system... He relies on his QB being smart enough to bail him out of a bad play. I don't think TG has the smarts or length of leash to do that. Mallett did, and even then he and Petrino would sometimes butt heads with Petrino being mad that Mallett changed the call, even though the call Mallett made was the right one. He needs a QB that is smart, and has the force of will and character to make the right call and stand up to him. I don't think TG has that... and he definitely doesn't have the long leash. Of course, you're also correct. We shall see if Bobby starts putting out KJ.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 30, 2025, 05:45 AMGoes without saying, but it'll be interesting to see what the crowds are like the rest of the way in Fayetteville.
I suppose that might somewhat be determined how we do against Tennessee and whether we play an egg with a team full of quit, but I could see turnout being decent to good just to see a Bobby P led team, at least until the novelty wears off.
Hell, I'm tempted to buy tickets. If this year plays out and Bobby is the man next year, I will 100% be booking tickets and flights for me and my son to see a BMFP led team at home. Back in 2010 and 2011 I simply couldn't due to work and family stuff, and had planned 2012 to go to Bama or Ole Miss, and then USCe. Alas, I was cheated (I will never forgive Jeff Long). Of course, if we look like we might be able to do something maybe I'll make the Mizzery game. I'd like to make MSST, but no chance of that as I'm helping my mom move on October 31.
On the subject of Petrino's future. It has been mentioned here many times and DJ keeps reiterating it on his podcast. Bobby has become very predictable. Some of that is TG always selecting the same option during a play call... whether it is that super predictable RPO, or some of the route options on a pass. DJ was harping on it again last night. I can't help but wonder if that is a result of TG, Bobby losing his edge, the O not grasping enough of the playbook, Bobby's stubbornness, or what. However, it is obvious that defenses have sniffed out and solved for many of his tendencies. I'll be interested to see if some of that changes moving forward... If not, Bobby probably isn't the guy.
I'm in favor of ditching a lot of that RPO bullshit in favor of some meat and potatoes pro style play calling. Green is still going to get plenty of run opportunities out of broken plays and forced runs because of coverage down the field.
Green is not the future...KJ may be the future at Arkansas or elsewhere with or without Bobby. If KJ is "ready" then I'd expect there to be a shift to him at some point this season maybe with a 4 or 5 games left. This benefits him and Bobby in terms of potential chemistry moving forward.
Our running game has not been good and I'd expect a different look out of that coming. We've got too good of RBs to not be getting more out of them than we are. Something has to change. We need to be leaning on the running game to run clock and keep our fucking shitty defense off the field. Play ball control provided we aren't giving up TDs left and right.
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 06:42 AMI'm in favor of ditching a lot of that RPO bullshit in favor of some meat and potatoes pro style play calling. Green is still going to get plenty of run opportunities out of broken plays and forced runs because of coverage down the field.
Green is not the future...KJ may be the future at Arkansas or elsewhere with or without Bobby. If KJ is "ready" then I'd expect there to be a shift to him at some point this season maybe with a 4 or 5 games left. This benefits him and Bobby in terms of potential chemistry moving forward.
Our running game has not been good and I'd expect a different look out of that coming. We've got too good of RBs to not be getting more out of them than we are. Something has to change. We need to be leaning on the running game to run clock and keep our fucking shitty defense off the field. Play ball control provided we aren't giving up TDs left and right.
We've backed out of the running game a bit too much if you ask me. I'm not sure of the reason, really. I think DJ and others eluded to an OL issue causing our backs to not hit the hole or allowing DL to come through by releasing them thinking the other guy was responsible for him. We had a few series that looked great, lean on the run and then play action... then suddenly we aren't doing it anymore. IDK if it's Petrino or TG. I also wonder how much of the OL Bobby has been actually responsible for. What we know for sure is that there is terrible communication on D, and sloppy/poor communication on O. I hope Bobby fixes that issue.
Didn't we used to do the flipping the tackles Strong side/Weak side when he was here before? Do we do that now? That might be a clue as to whether he has full control of the offense/line or not?
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Sep 30, 2025, 06:59 AMDidn't we used to do the flipping the tackles Strong side/Weak side when he was here before? Do we do that now? That might be a clue as to whether he has full control of the offense/line or not?
I don't think he's done that in a long time
The flipping of the line was stupid.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 30, 2025, 07:29 AMThe flipping of the line was stupid.
Why? I genuinly don't know so any explanation is appreciated.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 30, 2025, 07:33 AMWhy? I genuinly don't know so any explanation is appreciated.
Do you see anyone else at any other level doing that? His reasoning was it expanded the playbook in the run game. No reason to over complicate that, especially with the very average talent we had up front.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 30, 2025, 07:33 AMWhy? I genuinly don't know so any explanation is appreciated.
Between the two positions they are generally regarded as far different. The drops and steps are significantly different.
This has mostly changed because teams are not just running right at defenses anymore.
So you have a tackle ideally suited for backside protection and the other tackle typically on the right side that's usually a bit more of an athlete and or weak link.
There's probably more technical reasons than that but anyway that's the gist
Quote from: HTL on Sep 30, 2025, 07:40 AMDo you see anyone else at any other level doing that? His reasoning was it expanded the playbook in the run game. No reason to over complicate that, especially with the very average talent we had up front.
I don't see what everyone else doing has to do with what we do. Second, did flipping the line work or not? I don't recall it not working so since it did work I don't see what makes it stupid.
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 07:42 AMBetween the two positions they are generally regarded as far different. The drops and steps are significantly different.
This has mostly changed because teams are not just running right at defenses anymore.
So you have a tackle ideally suited for backside protection and the other tackle typically on the right side that's usually a bit more of an athlete and or weak link.
There's probably more technical reasons than that but anyway that's the gist
It was to expand the running game playbook. We barely had one serviceable tackle much less asking two to protect Mallett's backside.
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 07:42 AMBetween the two positions they are generally regarded as far different. The drops and steps are significantly different.
This has mostly changed because teams are not just running right at defenses anymore.
So you have a tackle ideally suited for backside protection and the other tackle typically on the right side that's usually a bit more of an athlete and or weak link.
There's probably more technical reasons than that but anyway that's the gist
:thumb_up:
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 30, 2025, 07:42 AMI don't see what everyone else doing has to do with what we do. Second, did flipping the line work or not? I don't recall it not working so since it did work I don't see what makes it stupid.
Would you want Ray Dominguez protecting your backside? The OL was the weak link on the offense for sure.
Will be interesting to see what if anything changes with regard to play calling. I suspect there will be some changes but not sure what.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 30, 2025, 07:46 AMWill be interesting to see what if anything changes with regard to play calling. I suspect there will be some changes but not sure what.
Why would there be changes? Sam had little to no input with any of the three OC's that worked for him.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 30, 2025, 07:43 AMWould you want Ray Dominguez protecting your backside? The OL was the weak link on the offense for sure.
Sorry. I'm going to have to call a false start just for you mentioning Ray Dominguez.
Quote from: HTL on Sep 30, 2025, 07:47 AMWhy would there be changes? Sam had little to no input with any of the three OC's that worked for him.
I think he had more than you realize. We'll see.
Quote from: Spiderham on Sep 30, 2025, 07:49 AMSorry. I'm going to have to call a false start just for you mentioning Ray Dominguez.
You're lucky that Wade Grayson is holding me back right now.
Blocking scheme could potentially change
We might see more pistol
Quote from: animal on Sep 30, 2025, 06:42 AMI'm in favor of ditching a lot of that RPO bullshit in favor of some meat and potatoes pro style play calling. Green is still going to get plenty of run opportunities out of broken plays and forced runs because of coverage down the field.
Green is not the future...KJ may be the future at Arkansas or elsewhere with or without Bobby. If KJ is "ready" then I'd expect there to be a shift to him at some point this season maybe with a 4 or 5 games left. This benefits him and Bobby in terms of potential chemistry moving forward.
Our running game has not been good and I'd expect a different look out of that coming. We've got too good of RBs to not be getting more out of them than we are. Something has to change. We need to be leaning on the running game to run clock and keep our fucking shitty defense off the field. Play ball control provided we aren't giving up TDs left and right.
Has KJ played yet this year? If not, I could see them saving him for the last 4 games. I think Green definitely starts against TN and Aggy.
KJ played the first two games
I think we see very little, if anything new. On the contrary, we'll see less variation. You can't install anything in the middle of the season.
At this point, it's better to do basic and the "meat and potatoes" stuff well then introducing anything.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Sep 30, 2025, 08:19 AMHas KJ played yet this year? If not, I could see them saving him for the last 4 games. I think Green definitely starts against TN and Aggy.
Yes I think he played the first couple games and really should have got some meaningful snaps the other day but they never went to him. He redshirted last season so none of that four game stuff means a whole lot other than maybe working a medical year for him down the line.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 30, 2025, 08:21 AMKJ played the first two games
So he can still redshirt... :suicide:
Ah, just saw he did that last year. Excellent.
Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 30, 2025, 08:21 AMI think we see very little, if anything new. On the contrary, we'll see less variation. You can't install anything in the middle of the season.
At this point, it's better to do basic and the "meat and potatoes" stuff well then introducing anything.
We may see less of the zone RPO we keep trying to establish, but has been sniffed out and countered by the last two defenses, relatively easily.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 06:15 AMI'm not sold on the notion that Bobby would be pressured by NIL. I think he stubbornly clings to some things, we all know he has a history of doing that. He also has a love of guys that can do special things. He used to frequently say of Mallett that there were 3-4 plays every game that no other QB could have made. He has said similar about Green. Which also brings up a real pro/con of Bobby's system... He relies on his QB being smart enough to bail him out of a bad play. I don't think TG has the smarts or length of leash to do that. Mallett did, and even then he and Petrino would sometimes butt heads with Petrino being mad that Mallett changed the call, even though the call Mallett made was the right one. He needs a QB that is smart, and has the force of will and character to make the right call and stand up to him. I don't think TG has that... and he definitely doesn't have the long leash. Of course, you're also correct. We shall see if Bobby starts putting out KJ.
I moreso meant pressure from his boss to keep trotting him out there. I think Bobby had full reigns on play calling, but might have been getting overruled on some personnel decisions. I think we see a little more of KJ, especially if these next two get out of reach, like we expect or if Green is just playing bad. I don't expect to see him dropped in as starter on the next two by any means, but if Green plays poorly over the next two, and KJ shows promise, he might want to show a flash of the future for his resume.
Grit mentioned today that Alfred Davis (played here 2009-2012) might be the guy to coach the DL. He has coached DL at Mizzou and Illinois
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 30, 2025, 12:19 PMI moreso meant pressure from his boss to keep trotting him out there. I think Bobby had full reigns on play calling, but might have been getting overruled on some personnel decisions. I think we see a little more of KJ, especially if these next two get out of reach, like we expect or if Green is just playing bad. I don't expect to see him dropped in as starter on the next two by any means, but if Green plays poorly over the next two, and KJ shows promise, he might want to show a flash of the future for his resume.
It's possible that you're right. However, Bobby has long been stubborn about his QB, and generally doesn't pull them even when playing poorly. He doesn't like that getting in their heads. I think we'll find out if Green really still is his guy, though.
has pat forde spontaneously combusted yet?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PMhas pat forde spontaneously combusted yet?
dIsEnGenUoUs gRiFtEr!!!1!
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 30, 2025, 12:20 PMGrit mentioned today that Alfred Davis (played here 2009-2012) might be the guy to coach the DL. He has coached DL at Mizzou and Illinois
Stepped away for "personal reasons" and is at a Columbia high school currently. Was rumored to go to LSU last year.
If there's going to be a time to make adjustments, against Tennessee will be the time. Two weeks to install, right?
Quote from: Cornhogio on Sep 30, 2025, 01:38 PMIf there's going to be a time to make adjustments, against Tennessee will be the time. Two weeks to install, right?
I think the most we can hope for is effort and maybe a shift in the base defense, but I don't think they can do much in the way of scheme install.
Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 01:47 PMI think the most we can hope for is effort and maybe a shift in the base defense, but I don't think they can do much in the way of scheme install.
I'll take that. I have to say if we had three or four starters on defense that didn't make the trip to Knoxville, I'd be ok with that too.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 30, 2025, 12:20 PMGrit mentioned today that Alfred Davis (played here 2009-2012) might be the guy to coach the DL. He has coached DL at Mizzou and Illinois
This is all but confirmed by the way.
We are gonna beat Tennessee.
Has anyone tweeted anything to Jeff Long yet?
Quote from: aaron on Sep 30, 2025, 03:44 PMWe are gonna beat Tennessee.
Has anyone tweeted anything to Jeff Long yet?
I'm waiting til BMFP turns this ship around (if he can).
Quote from: aaron on Sep 30, 2025, 03:44 PMWe are gonna beat Tennessee.
Has anyone tweeted anything to Jeff Long yet?
If I'm not mistaken he still lives in NWA. Hopefully Petrino took the bike out for a spin and did doughnuts in his yard.
Quote from: aaron on Sep 30, 2025, 03:44 PMWe are gonna beat Tennessee.
Has anyone tweeted anything to Jeff Long yet?
INTEGRITY!
SMILE!
Quote from: HTL on Sep 30, 2025, 07:43 AMWould you want Ray Dominguez protecting your backside? The OL was the weak link on the offense for sure.
He certainly would always get a head start on doing it.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 30, 2025, 12:19 PMI moreso meant pressure from his boss to keep trotting him out there. I think Bobby had full reigns on play calling, but might have been getting overruled on some personnel decisions. I think we see a little more of KJ, especially if these next two get out of reach, like we expect or if Green is just playing bad. I don't expect to see him dropped in as starter on the next two by any means, but if Green plays poorly over the next two, and KJ shows promise, he might want to show a flash of the future for his resume.
In the case of Green, since he's done anyway after this year and looking at his NIL as a sunk cost, there's not really anything now to force playing him for political reasons.
I mean, he could always Nope out of the rest of the season, but if he does, oh well.
petrino brought him in and the offensive staff is still together, he ain't leaving because pittman is gone.
1400 yards, 62%, 12/5, and 441 rushing yards and 2 more td.
bp isn't benching him.
I never said he would. I'm just saying that political reasons shouldn't be why he wouldn't.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 30, 2025, 04:27 PMIf I'm not mistaken he still lives in NWA. Hopefully Petrino took the bike out for a spin and did doughnuts in his yard.
:maundoed:
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 30, 2025, 05:41 PMpetrino brought him in and the offensive staff is still together, he ain't leaving because pittman is gone.
1400 yards, 62%, 12/5, and 441 rushing yards and 2 more td.
bp isn't benching him.
Thank you, oh voice of reason.
Barring injury or something fluke we're ride or die with TG now, which is the way it should be because he's the best player on the field on our side.
No QB is perfect and Bobby's system demands a lot from them.
I think we forget some of the boneheaded plays Mallett made in 2010, namely in the loss to Bama.
Green is a darkhorse Heisman candidate for a reason (or he was before we imploded: they dont give those to teams with losing records)
Green probably gives us the best chance to win otherwise I figure Petrino would go to the KJ kid...but on the same token I can see him getting some reps if this thing continues to go tits up. Might as well work with the kid and potentially take him with you to the next stop.
Green is who he is. He's going to do something costly every single game.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 02, 2025, 08:39 AMGreen is who he is. He's going to do something costly every single game.
Agreed. He has a lot of natural talent but his achilles heel is his mindset.
Rather than play to win, he plays not to lose...and there is a big difference between the two.
Quote from: FNG on Oct 02, 2025, 08:46 AMAgreed. He has a lot of natural talent but his achilles heel is his mindset.
Rather than play to win, he plays not to lose...and there is a big difference between the two.
Green's mindset was exactly like his head coach. Playing not to lose. He always tightened up in crunchtime and not a killer. Our whole team under tits was like that. It is how he was like 7-19 in one score games. It is unlikely the loser stench of tits can be completely washed off the team with the remainder of the season, but who knows.
https://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19 (https://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 02, 2025, 02:30 PMhttps://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19 (https://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19)
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 02, 2025, 02:30 PMhttps://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19 (https://x.com/hogpix/status/1973804628858060954?t=SY2_tmYTQRCSN3XB_0BRBQ&s=19)
Can you imagine the culture shock? ;D
Also, check out that vein sticking out. Man is in his element.
I'm just going to pretend April Fools Day 2012 didnt happen, and we've won 8-11 games a year for the last 12 years.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 02, 2025, 04:55 PMI'm just going to pretend April Fools Day 2012 didnt happen, and we've won 8-11 games a year for the last 12 years.
Hell, we were national champs. Handed Saben his worst defeat of his career and Missouri hasn't beat us once.
Listening to all the podcasts and talking heads, they really hate Bobby... Nothing would thrill me more than for him to turn this thing around, win 4 games and get the gig just to stick to it these people!
I mean, he's set up for failure, and I don't see how he wins 4, I'm not sure I see 2 wins, but hearing these fools recharges all that "he's our asshole" hate fuel we had back in 2008-11. I'm ready to be the villains of the SEC again.
Quote from: passed on Oct 02, 2025, 05:53 PMListening to all the podcasts and talking heads, they really hate Bobby... Nothing would thrill me more than for him to turn this thing around, win 4 games and get the gig just to stick to it these people!
I mean, he's set up for failure, and I don't see how he wins 4, I'm not sure I see 2 wins, but hearing these fools recharges all that "he's our asshole" hate fuel we had back in 2008-11. I'm ready to be the villains of the SEC again.
Amen to every word of this
I don't recall as much negativity about jim at his other stops. Including Louisville. Seems the media really doesn't like the Petrino - Arkansas connection.
I'll say this, I'm more intrigued to watch our game next week than any game in quite some time.
Quote from: passed on Oct 02, 2025, 05:53 PMListening to all the podcasts and talking heads, they really hate Bobby... Nothing would thrill me more than for him to turn this thing around, win 4 games and get the gig just to stick to it these people!
I mean, he's set up for failure, and I don't see how he wins 4, I'm not sure I see 2 wins, but hearing these fools recharges all that "he's our asshole" hate fuel we had back in 2008-11. I'm ready to be the villains of the SEC again.
Yes.
You'll notice that all of these faggoty sports writers were all happy to lay upon us their friendly advice and tell us who would be a great fit for us over the last ten years. "Oh he'd be a great fit yadda yadda..." This same group of knobs told us that HDN was perfect and we couldn't do any better.
They shit all over us for hiring Petrion back in the day and here they are again telling us what's supposedly good for us. We all know the reason and it's not b/c they're actually the Bible Brigade.
BMFP is a real, professional, hard-nosed coach who gets results. They saw what happened before and they don't want the Hogs upsetting the happy little apple cart of Bama, UGA, Florida, and those Big12 dipshits.
Whether he pans out or not doesn't matter. To them we are the rednecks and hillbillies who don't wear shoes and pound their cousins. They want to keep us down and we can pound whomever we want b/c this is a free country.
https://x.com/clowfb/status/1973902143707861205?t=b7Sm-QDu5tum0Uc-ip6uDA&s=19 (https://x.com/clowfb/status/1973902143707861205?t=b7Sm-QDu5tum0Uc-ip6uDA&s=19)
https://pro-football-history.com/coach/638/jay-hayes-bio
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 02, 2025, 07:26 PMhttps://x.com/clowfb/status/1973902143707861205?t=b7Sm-QDu5tum0Uc-ip6uDA&s=19 (https://x.com/clowfb/status/1973902143707861205?t=b7Sm-QDu5tum0Uc-ip6uDA&s=19)
I hope he has chef experience, making chicken salad out of chicken shit.
Want NIL and the college bag? Idk what to tell you. Want to max out your NFL chances? BMFP is a serious option.
Wow, everything I've seen this week said Alfred Davis was the guy.
Wonder if something fell through or that was just a baseless guess that eveyrone ran with
Quote from: animal on Oct 02, 2025, 07:29 PMhttps://pro-football-history.com/coach/638/jay-hayes-bio
Long time special team coach too.
Pucker your cheeks Fountain.
So
We still need a LB coach no?
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 02, 2025, 08:48 PMWow, everything I've seen this week said Alfred Davis was the guy.
Wonder if something fell through or that was just a baseless guess that eveyrone ran with
I'm going to jump to conclusions and say they (HY) couldn't agree on the money. This older guy is probably fine with a short term situationship.
Quote from: animal on Oct 02, 2025, 09:08 PMI'm going to jump to conclusions and say they (HY) couldn't agree on the money. This older guy is probably fine with a short term situationship.
He was literally coaching high school ball so you're wrong.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 02, 2025, 09:26 PMHe was literally coaching high school ball so you're wrong.
Oh ok...that means so much coming from you.
Quote from: animal on Oct 02, 2025, 09:28 PMOh ok...that means so much coming from you.
Sorry. Just common sense. He got run off and was in high school ball. Money couldn't have possibly been an issue.
I believe Davis was at Mizzou until after last season and then abruptly resigned. No public statements as to why.
Anyway, we've got Hayes. Whether or not it translates to improvement remains to be seen
I was thinking back to when we hired Petrino and Chris Berman did a piece ripping him about the falcons and then ripping us about "firing" Dale. He finished it by saying sarcastically, "Good luck Petrino and Arkansas. You deserve each other."
I think I'm ready for us to be hated again.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 02, 2025, 10:41 PMI was thinking back to when we hired Petrino and Chris Berman did a piece ripping him about the falcons and then ripping us about "firing" Dale. He finished it by saying sarcastically, "Good luck Petrino and Arkansas. You deserve each other."
I think I'm ready for us to be hated again.
That same ESPN then turned a blind eye to "The sins of Rick Petino."
Petino fucked a Denny's waitress in a dirty bathroom while his boys waited in the booth.
They're both still coaching, but only one is beloved.
Quote from: TC on Oct 02, 2025, 10:58 PMThat same ESPN then turned a blind eye to "The sins of Rick Petino."
Petino fucked a Denny's waitress in a dirty bathroom while his boys waited in the booth.
They're both still coaching, but only one is beloved.
yep.
https://nypost.com/2010/08/06/karen-sypher-found-guilty-of-extorting-former-knicks-coach-rick-pitino
"Some unfortunate things happened," he said. "She opened up my pants."
Their encounter lasted only "15 seconds," Pitino said.
"She said to me that she is extremely fertile. She said her husband had looked at her four times and that she got pregnant," he said.
Hearing this, Pitino said, he "immediately pulled out."
Under an awkward cross-examination, he was asked how Sypher could have become pregnant if he did not ejaculate.
"I did," he said. "Down my leg."
Sypher, who says she became pregnant and had an abortion, waited six years to threaten to reveal the details of the brief, messy time together if he did not pay up.
Hayes didn't work out so well for the Bucs:
https://thepewterplank.com/2018/02/11/buccaneers-fire-defensive-line-coach-jay-hayes/
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Oct 03, 2025, 06:28 AMHayes didn't work out so well for the Bucs:
https://thepewterplank.com/2018/02/11/buccaneers-fire-defensive-line-coach-jay-hayes/
Then he promptly left the NFL and in to obscurity. Hopefully he isn't washed up, and doesn't try to use too many stunts here... our DL can't manage that. lol.
I'm not sure we would know if our DL was stunting or not. It all looks like they are Waltz dancing.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Oct 03, 2025, 04:57 AMyep.
https://nypost.com/2010/08/06/karen-sypher-found-guilty-of-extorting-former-knicks-coach-rick-pitino
"Some unfortunate things happened," he said. "She opened up my pants."
Their encounter lasted only "15 seconds," Pitino said.
"She said to me that she is extremely fertile. She said her husband had looked at her four times and that she got pregnant," he said.
Hearing this, Pitino said, he "immediately pulled out."
Under an awkward cross-examination, he was asked how Sypher could have become pregnant if he did not ejaculate.
"I did," he said. "Down my leg."
Sypher, who says she became pregnant and had an abortion, waited six years to threaten to reveal the details of the brief, messy time together if he did not pay up.
Lmao
Quote from: TC on Oct 02, 2025, 10:58 PMThat same ESPN then turned a blind eye to "The sins of Rick Petino."
Petino fucked a Denny's waitress in a dirty bathroom while his boys waited in the booth.
They're both still coaching, but only one is beloved.
More than that...Bruce Pearl...while his transgressions may be purely of the sports variety, the man oozes of smarmy to the nth degree...but he's good in front of the camera..not a coach i despise more than him
Here's a terrific analogy in my mind:
https://x.com/johnnaborsshow/status/1973904200108290527?s=46&t=kisRHQ-BH2YlHJQ0hr0_Kg
Or.... Top Gun: Maverick. Better than the original.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 03, 2025, 12:06 PMOr.... Top Gun: Maverick. Better than the original.
He added that as a reply...
"I'm hoping for Top Gun: Maverick. I'm preparing for Happy Gilmore 2."
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 03, 2025, 12:14 PMHe added that as a reply...
"I'm hoping for Top Gun: Maverick. I'm preparing for Happy Gilmore 2."
That is perfect. Stealing it.
First official presser as HC today.
Talked about how the defense has responded well to the changes and that the whole environment of practice is different. He's running things his way and expecting players to adapt, and it sounds like they have.
Talked a little about getting Crutchfield better involved going forward.
Mostly fluff questions.
Is the receiver from Warren expected to play this year?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 06, 2025, 02:52 PMIs the receiver from Warren expected to play this year?
I think he's the one that had a high ankle sprain and Bobby said he's probably getting on the field once he's healthy. Also talked about Crutchfield having the physical traits but has to get the mental part down in order to see the field.
Nice hearing a coach talking about players in a very specific manner and not bullshit everyone with platitudes.
Fail or flop, for the last two months of the regular season, we will have a real professional with a work ethic running the show. Haven't had that since the same professional with a work ethic was here the last time around.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 06, 2025, 12:57 PMFirst official presser as HC today.
Talked about how the defense has responded well to the changes and that the whole environment of practice is different. He's running things his way and expecting players to adapt, and it sounds like they have.
Talked a little about getting Crutchfield better involved going forward.
Mostly fluff questions.
It's going to say a lot if the players keep buying in. They knew the staff was coasting.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 06, 2025, 03:24 PMFail or flop, for the last two months of the regular season, we will have a real professional with a work ethic running the show. Haven't had that since the same professional with a work ethic was here the last time around.
I'm pretty confident he's going to win enough to keep the job. We will improve every week under him.
There was a discussion out here about being able coach effort into a kid I didn't get involved in. I learned early that fear is a motivating factor. Kids of today will still respond to it, we've just stopped using it. I respected my old man and respect is 90% fear.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 06, 2025, 03:39 PMI'm pretty confident he's going to win enough to keep the job. We will improve every week under him.
There was a discussion out here about being able coach effort into a kid I didn't get involved in. I learned early that fear is a motivating factor. Kids of today will still respond to it, we've just stopped using it. I respected my old man and respect is 90% fear.
Yes it is and does... so long as they stick around enough for it. That has been the big question with instilling a sense of toughness and effort into the players. Will they stick around or just constantly opt/portal out. Especially if someone is offering them more money. Then all we're doing year in and year out is building players for other teams, never seeing the benefit of a couple of years of toughness, and resetting each year.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 06, 2025, 03:39 PMI'm pretty confident he's going to win enough to keep the job. We will improve every week under him.
There was a discussion out here about being able coach effort into a kid I didn't get involved in. I learned early that fear is a motivating factor. Kids of today will still respond to it, we've just stopped using it. I respected my old man and respect is 90% fear.
You're onto something.
The hardest thing for a coach to do is to get the guys to play hard consistently. The great coaches are the people who can do that. How is it done, though? Well, one way is to actually make it fun for the guys. Good luck with that. There aren't many coaches capable of doing it that way. Because what the hell in football is fun other than the games? Scoring lots of points is fun, but getting there isn't.
Basketball is always fun, practice or games doesn't matter. Playing in baseball games is so boring, but practices are fun. Football practice fucking sucks.
Fear is the most consistent motivator to get young men to bust their ass. Rah rah can't be used every week. Fear of fucking up and discipline are how you build empires.
I feel like this particular group of kids may actually be yearning for a bit of tough love. And if they get some results, they may respond in a big way.
That isn't to say we're going to win all the rest of our games or that the Petrino approach will work longterm, but I just have a feeling these kids need and want some structure and direction.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 06, 2025, 07:46 PMI feel like this particular group of kids may actually be yearning for a bit of tough love. And if they get some results, they may respond in a big way.
That isn't to say we're going to win all the rest of our games or that the Petrino approach will work longterm, but I just have a feeling these kids need and want some structure and direction.
All kids need and want structure and direction.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 06, 2025, 07:50 PMAll kids need and want structure and direction.
I tend to agree, PARTICULARLY those who have experienced a complete lack of it like our current players.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 06, 2025, 07:57 PMI tend to agree, PARTICULARLY those who have experienced a complete lack of it like our current players.
I bet quite a few would simply settle for less "I don't know"'s from their head coach.
I think, at one time or another in our lives, we have all been under the authority of someone who was not a natural leader; someone who could not make the right decisions under pressure and when they did make a decision there was absolutely no confidence in their eyes or--even worse--there was panic.
It's a miserable existence and it's contagious and group failure is almost guaranteed; but, if by happy chance that authority figure is replaced by a true leader, the results can be amazing.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 03, 2025, 12:14 PMHe added that as a reply...
"I'm hoping for Top Gun: Maverick. I'm preparing for Happy Gilmore 2."
Or it could be the new Star Wars Trilogy and make us regret ever becoming fans in the first place.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 06, 2025, 12:57 PMFirst official presser as HC today.
Mostly fluff questions.
You didn't think they also replaced all the beat staff, did you?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 06, 2025, 10:31 PMYou didn't think they also replaced all the beat staff, did you?
To quote DJ I think from back in the day about Petrino. "They've found somebody we are all scared of.".
That applies to sportswriters as well. Remember him throwing out the lady who wore the Florida hat?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 06, 2025, 10:31 PMYou didn't think they also replaced all the beat staff, did you?
I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 06, 2025, 07:46 PMI feel like this particular group of kids may actually be yearning for a bit of tough love. And if they get some results, they may respond in a big way.
That isn't to say we're going to win all the rest of our games or that the Petrino approach will work longterm, but I just have a feeling these kids need and want some structure and direction.
We all want to believe that. It's been a long two weeks. Two weeks ago, I felt TN would blow our doors off with Pittman running the show, but I have a feeling we will compete in Knox. No transfers, maybe that's circumstantial, with the portal stuff, but I'm also going to give some credit to the staff and leadership. This could have been a lot uglier.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 06, 2025, 10:42 PMWe all want to believe that. It's been a long two weeks. Two weeks ago, I felt TN would blow our doors off with Pittman running the show, but I have a feeling we will compete in Knox. No transfers, maybe that's circumstantial, with the portal stuff, but I'm also going to give some credit to the staff and leadership. This could have been a lot uglier.
Hard to deny some wishful thinking but the signs seem promising. I wouldn't have bet ten cents that there would be no portals by now.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 06, 2025, 12:57 PMMostly fluff questions.
From our media? Unpossible
Defensive staff threw too much at the transfers. Sometimes dumb is smart.
Travis trying to show all he knows and proved he didn't know the most important thing of all.
Petrino scrapped it all, going back to base, and focusing less on complex defense and more about lining up and playing fast, and shedding blocks.
I think we see a much better defense. Sure, there will still be issues with our conditioning and getting athletically beat. But better.
The conditioning alone is unbelievable. And can't be fixed. Sam really screwed us there and it will take a year to fix.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 07, 2025, 05:50 AMFrom our media? Unpossible
Sounded like they were following the same approved script from the Pittman era. Of course none of them know how to ask a very football technical kind of question. Then again I'm not sure Petrino is going to give them anything other teams can use against us.
Like say he was asked if there are going to be any changes in terms of who starts/plays and he said sure...but he's not going to tell them. Obviously WR we are going to see some guys have to play that haven't played much due to injuries. I won't be shocked if E'Marion Harris is benched in favor of someone else. The DL I don't know what options we have but there may be a young guy or two they work in instead of some of the slugs we've seen so far.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 07, 2025, 05:50 AMFrom our media? Unpossible
I miss Bob.
"Hey Bobby, um, remember that time you were Head Coach here before? Um, how do you feel about that?"
Quote from: red death on Oct 07, 2025, 07:55 AMThe conditioning alone is unbelievable. And can't be fixed. Sam really screwed us there and it will take a year to fix.
Strength and conditioning can make or break a team and thus a coach's tenure.
Sowders has been an unmitigated disaster. Forget the effort and quit, this team looks
weak. Defensive linemen are getting zero pressure, and we're utterly incapable of making a solo tackle. I've never seen a defense give up more second chance yards and get out-muscled at the point of attack so regularly.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 07, 2025, 01:38 PMStrength and conditioning can make or break a team and thus a coach's tenure.
Sowders has been an unmitigated disaster. Forget the effort and quit, this team looks weak. Defensive linemen are getting zero pressure, and we're utterly incapable of making a solo tackle. I've never seen a defense give up more second chance yards and get out-muscled at the point of attack so regularly.
They love and care for each other. That's what REALLY matters, the togetherness.
I'm I crazy, but haven't we complained about every S&C coach we've ever had? Have we ever been a good one?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 07, 2025, 02:46 PMI'm I crazy, but haven't we complained about every S&C coach we've ever had? Have we ever been a good one?
Easy scapegoat
Decker
I didn't complain about Veltkamp
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 06, 2025, 10:42 PMWe all want to believe that. It's been a long two weeks. Two weeks ago, I felt TN would blow our doors off with Pittman running the show, but I have a feeling we will compete in Knox. No transfers, maybe that's circumstantial, with the portal stuff, but I'm also going to give some credit to the staff and leadership. This could have been a lot uglier.
No transfers because they won't get their money if they go in the portal now. Wouldn't give coaches that much credit for keeping the team together.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 07, 2025, 03:33 PMI didn't complain about Veltkamp
we complained some because we didn't know he was making chicken salad out of chicken shit. we still got pushed around by lsu, bama, etc. but it was much better than would have been if we had the s/c coaches since then.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 07, 2025, 04:06 PMwe complained some because we didn't know he was making chicken salad out of chicken shit. we still got pushed around by lsu, bama, etc. but it was much better than would have been if we had the s/c coaches since then.
I can see that. We were definitely better conditioned. We didn't realize what we had until it was gone.
I don't remember who it was, but we ran the fuck over a lot of teams late in games to close them out in Bobby's first time around. I remember closing out LSU at the end of the game with like 10 straight runs or something like that. Just fucking broke them.
Herbert did well at Michigan best I can tell.
We had conditioning issues under him but i wonder how much of that was from a directive from Bert.
I seem to recall during Chaggie's first spring here there was a story about some players getting their asses chewed for stepping out of line during conditioning drills. Apparently under Bert they were allowed to do that when they were tired.
Pittman probably hasn't been much different.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 07, 2025, 05:30 PMI seem to recall during Chaggie's first spring here there was a story about some players getting their asses chewed for stepping out of line during conditioning drills. Apparently under Bert they were allowed to do that when they were tired.
Pittman probably hasn't been much different.
Yes, Cam Ball does it in the game. Dude makes one play and looks like he's about to pass out.
bert had guys carrying mattresses around. don't think he was as soft as he's made out to be, when the running game was going they would make other teams quit.
the turf on one of the practice fields led to a lot of players getting a foot tho.
Which SC was responsible for the freaks come out at night? That was classic.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 07, 2025, 07:43 PMWhich SC was responsible for the freaks come out at night? That was classic.
That was early Bert. What was that fuckers name?
Quote from: BASS on Oct 07, 2025, 07:44 PMThat was early Bert. What was that fuckers name?
Ben Herbert.
I think someone came away with a foot from that. One legged squats or something.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 07, 2025, 07:44 PMThat was early Bert. What was that fuckers name?
Mother...Mother Fucker.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 07, 2025, 08:04 PMBen Herbert.
The Freaks Come Out at Night was badass, though, until we started breaking feet.
After the Bret break-up Herbert got hired by Harbaugh pretty quickly at Michigan, where he ended up getting a Natty.
He's coaching now at San Diego, still with Harbaugh.
Quote from: TC on Oct 07, 2025, 11:45 PMThe Freaks Come Out at Night was badass, though, until we started breaking feet.
After the Bret break-up Herbert got hired by Harbaugh pretty quickly at Michigan, where he ended up getting a Natty.
He's coaching now at San Diego, still with Harbaugh.
Seems like the problem was with the HC, to the surprise of no one.
Bert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.
I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.
Quote from: piglosopher on Oct 08, 2025, 08:56 AMBert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.
I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.
It was so frustrating. I know defense wins championships but you have to have a dynamic offense to be competitive. Bert was so unprepared for the sec. He said, "Look what I did at Wisconsin. Hold my 30 pack and watch what me do the same at Arkansas. And I can do it with no effort."
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 08, 2025, 09:02 AMIt was so frustrating. I know defense wins championships but you have to have a dynamic offense to be competitive. Bert was so unprepared for the sec. He said, "Look what I did at Wisconsin. Hold my 30 pack and watch what me do the same at Arkansas. And I can do it with no effort."
We are never going to be able to consistently win with good defenses. There just aren't enough quality defensive linemen and linebackers to go around. Most of them get picked up by Alabama, Georgia, texass, etc.
The equalizer with a program like ours is a bad ass offense. Fast guys (if you aren't worried too much about size) and QBs who can run and throw a little are a dime a dozen. Sign as many of those as you can, spread the field to make it impossible to cover them all, and find ways to get them the ball. Something like feed the studs has a nice ring to it.
I was a big fan of Veltkamp. I didn't like getting pushed around by Bama or LSU, but a lot of teams did. According to former players, he focused a lot on speed, flexibility, and agility. Those teams were usually nails in the second half, especially in the 4th quarter.
Conversely, I was an OG Ben Herbert darksider. He overrotated on pure squat and bench numbers and paid little to no attention on speed and conditioning. Just like Sam, we blew a shitload of second half leads under Bert because we'd run out of gas, and our linemen could squat cars but couldn't block small, quick ends in pass pro. Remember when our pass blocking would get eaten alive by the likes of Sanford and Toledo?
I actually liked Sam's first two guys he brought with him from Georgia. They had their work cut out for them after Morris had remade us into an FCS team physically, and they turned us around from an S&C standpoint almost immediately. They ended up being the fall guys after our disappointing 2022 season, only to end up hiring Sowders.
Plus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes. As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 08, 2025, 09:31 AMI was a big fan of Veltkamp. I didn't like getting pushed around by Bama or LSU, but a lot of teams did. According to former players, he focused a lot on speed, flexibility, and agility. Those teams were usually nails in the second half, especially in the 4th quarter.
Conversely, I was an OG Ben Herbert darksider. He overrotated on pure squat and bench numbers and paid little to no attention on speed and conditioning. Just like Sam, we blew a shitload of second half leads under Bert because we'd run out of gas, and our linemen could squat cars but couldn't block small, quick ends in pass pro. Remember when our pass blocking would get eaten alive by the likes of Sanford and Toledo?
I actually liked Sam's first two guys he brought with him from Georgia. They had their work cut out for them after Morris had remade us into an FCS team physically, and they turned us around from an S&C standpoint almost immediately. They ended up being the fall guys after our disappointing 2022 season, only to end up hiring Sowders.
I'd love to know the truth about what happened with Jamil Walker. The party line was that he was undermining other coaches to the players. If true, that is a situation where you truly do have to fire the guy. By the same token I can completely sympathize with the guy who's in charge of making guys work hard (at least in offseason) being frustrated with the apparent lack of direction and discipline from the on-field coaching staff.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 08, 2025, 09:33 AMPlus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes. As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.
I actually thought that was kind of funny. Completely anti-scientific of course, but sometimes it takes a retard to reach other retards.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 08, 2025, 09:33 AMPlus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes. As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.
I always thought that plant thing was a stupid ass example.
Like, yeah, if you give a plant HUMAN food it's going to die. Doesn't matter if it's candy or kale. Conversely, if you feed a human some plant food, they're also going to die.
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/03/05/ben-herbert-has-a-great-illustration-every-strength-coach-can-borrow (https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/03/05/ben-herbert-has-a-great-illustration-every-strength-coach-can-borrow)
The Black Room! Two caught a foot, one regressed significantly, and one never did anything. Body by Herb.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 08, 2025, 09:36 AMI always thought that plant thing was a stupid ass example.
Like, yeah, if you give a plant HUMAN food it's going to die. Doesn't matter if it's candy or kale. Conversely, if you feed a human some plant food, they're also going to die.
Yeah, people like you and me probably see things more literal than the people he's working with.
Quote from: piglosopher on Oct 08, 2025, 08:56 AMBert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.
I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.
Bert had the right attitude but the wrong solutions for his naive view of the SEC and how to compete against powerhouses like Alabama. He was too locked into the Barry Alvarez / Michigan game. His attack on the hunh was stupid; it's a great tactic to offset the endless substitutions of better deeper teams at the top in the SEC.
I liked his emphasis on a powerful OLine and running game. I thought his history of raising nfl o linemen would be our calling card. He failed there because of his other failures, primarily his disregard of strength and stamina. The Heat murdered him and he gave that squad too much time off.
He had two masterful playbooks in the archive, and could have learned from Gus as well. JFB had the same issue against the SWC, and figured it out. Recruit Texas heavy with HS coaching networks, speed to the ball, brains, no turnovers or dumb penalties, and stamina. BMFP showed how to do it with great quarterback play and a big playbook.
In the end he was brought down by his arrogance, stubborness, and laziness.
In the timespan of less than two weeks, I have gone from completely hopeless to brimming with hope. Surely it will be a huge letdown, but it is an odd feeling after years of hopelessness and general "meh".
I mean, I KNOW we aren't going to win many of the games remaining on our schedule...but the hope that we could look like we give a shit and know kinda what we know what we are doing gives me a tingly feeling.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 08, 2025, 12:21 PMIn the timespan of less than two weeks, I have gone from completely hopeless to brimming with hope. Surely it will be a huge letdown, but it is an odd feeling after years of hopelessness and general "meh".
I mean, I KNOW we aren't going to win many of the games remaining on our schedule...but the hope that we could look like we give a shit and know kinda what we know what we are doing gives me a tingly feeling.
You should know better. "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." ;D
Quote from: piglosopher on Oct 08, 2025, 08:56 AMBert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.
I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.
I actually thought he didn't run
enough Power I. Our running backs were awesome with a lead blocker. Besides the Texas Tech game we were majority pro set.
Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 08, 2025, 11:22 AMBert had the right attitude but the wrong solutions for his naive view of the SEC and how to compete against powerhouses like Alabama. He was too locked into the Barry Alvarez / Michigan game. His attack on the hunh was stupid; it's a great tactic to offset the endless substitutions of better deeper teams at the top in the SEC.
I liked his emphasis on a powerful OLine and running game. I thought his history of raising nfl o linemen would be our calling card. He failed there because of his other failures, primarily his disregard of strength and stamina. The Heat murdered him and he gave that squad too much time off.
He had two masterful playbooks in the archive, and could have learned from Gus as well. JFB had the same issue against the SWC, and figured it out. Recruit Texas heavy with HS coaching networks, speed to the ball, brains, no turnovers or dumb penalties, and stamina. BMFP showed how to do it with great quarterback play and a big playbook.
In the end he was brought down by his arrogance, stubborness, and laziness.
Bert just didn't recruit speed. We were slow in team speed.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 08, 2025, 01:20 PMI actually thought he didn't run enough Power I. Our running backs were awesome with a lead blocker. Besides the Texas Tech game we were majority pro set.
A power I would work great in this age of spread them out offenses, defenses aren't built to stop a power run game.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 08, 2025, 02:20 PMA power I would work great in this age of spread them out offenses, defenses aren't built to stop a power run game.
Power I only works when you have an advantage on the lines of scrimmage. Arkansas will rarely have that in the SEC.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 08, 2025, 02:23 PMPower I only works when you have an advantage on the lines of scrimmage. Arkansas will rarely have that in the SEC.
It's a lot easier to recruit road graders than pass blockers.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 08, 2025, 12:21 PMI mean, I KNOW we aren't going to win many any of the games remaining on our schedule...
FIFY
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 08, 2025, 01:28 PMBert just didn't recruit speed. We were slow in team speed.
Yep
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 08, 2025, 01:28 PMBert just didn't recruit speed. We were slow in team speed.
Truth - he was used to the lack of speed in the big 10.
Remember the fake punts he would try with the punter running around the end? In the plodding big 10 it could work but in the sec there was zero chance as the everyone on a sec d-line was as fast as a big 10 running back if not faster.
He wanted to out Alabama Alabama, nice concept but was never going to happen.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 08, 2025, 10:51 PMTruth - he was used to the lack of speed in the big 10.
Remember the fake punts he would try with the punter running around the end? In the plodding big 10 it could work but in the sec there was zero chance as the everyone on a sec d-line was as fast as a big 10 running back if not faster.
He wanted to out Alabama Alabama, nice concept but was never going to happen.
Exactly why he was a great hire on paper but a terrible fit for a job like ours.
I think it's important to remember that the Big 10 had a few of their major programs on probation when Bert did well, and the players were all Alvarez's players.
pretty sure ohio st was the only b10 football program on probation then. meyer still went 36-3 with a nc.
edit: pedo st was put on probation the year he left.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 08, 2025, 01:28 PMBert just didn't recruit speed. We were slow in team speed.
Adding to that, Herbert's stupid ass packed 20lbs onto Alex Collins and killed his burst and top-end speed he showed as a freshman.
Much like Sowders did with Rocket in 2023.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Oct 09, 2025, 04:06 PMI think it's important to remember that the Big 10 had a few of their major programs on probation when Bert did well, and the players were all Alvarez's players.
Not to mention Alvarez was AD while Bert was HC at Wisconsin and maintained close oversight on the football program.
He was able to cut loose and have free rein at Arkansas because he worked for a weak, feckless twerp of an AD in Jeff Long who was more interested in profile building and the CFP committee.
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Quote from: Feral on Oct 09, 2025, 10:11 PMAdding to that, Herbert's stupid ass packed 20lbs onto Alex Collins and killed his burst and top-end speed he showed as a freshman.
He's probably lost it by now.
That's dark :this_is_woopig:
Marty and McGee with some shit rained comments; obvious they watch no Arkansas football. McGee: " I don't want to think about college football without Sam Pittman in it!" Marty Smith: "Drama comes with Bobby Petrino. Fired the Ddfensive staff. Those players loved travis Williams they played hard for him!" Huh? Fuck those idiots.
They're both fagorts anyway. Too busy painting each other's faces instead of studying the stuff they get paid to talk about.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 11, 2025, 10:04 AMThey're both fagorts anyway. Too busy painting each other's faces instead of studying the stuff they get paid to talk about.
Oh, they pain each other's faces I'm sure. Faggorts for sure.
I'm nowhere near ready to declare Bobby 2.0 a failure. That's a crazy take, imo.
Tennessee is the worst possible first opponent considering our circumstances that lead to the coaching change.
If we were playing Auburn at home tonight, we're winning and everyone's mood is totally different.
This team needs four wins to reach a bowl. We have two games at home and three on the road. It was always going to be a tall task, but this is clearly not the same team that played Notre Dame, or Ole Miss for that matter.
this game wasn't going to decide anything. he's got more opportunities and if today is any indication, he's got a great shot at being the next coach.
gotta have wins instead of excuses tho.
It's a no brainer. He's still a great coach. He needs to be hired.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 11, 2025, 07:17 PMIt's a no brainer. He's still a great coach. He needs to be hired.
Agree. I was proud of our kids. They played like they had a fucking pulse.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 11, 2025, 06:55 PMThis team needs four wins to reach a bowl. We have two games at home and three on the road. It was always going to be a tall task, but this is clearly not the same team that played Notre Dame, or Ole Miss for that matter.
We have 4 games left at home and 2 on the road.
Quote from: Feral on Oct 11, 2025, 10:39 PMWe have 4 games left at home and 2 on the road.
Oh you're right
(Samsonite, I was way off)
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 11, 2025, 11:50 PMOh you're right
(Samsonite, I was way off)
You ever spent any time as an oil boy on a Hawaiian Tropic road tour?
If that's the best we can do, we need out of P4 ball.
Who, EXACTLY, should we get that we can 1) afford 2) would come.
List them out. Your list since you are a great knower of ball.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 12, 2025, 11:19 AMIf that's the best we can do, we need out of P4 ball.
So you expected this team to go on the road and beat #12 who leads the SEC in points scored per game?
Quote from: HTL on Oct 12, 2025, 11:19 AMIf that's the best we can do, we need out of P4 ball.
If that's the best you can do, you need to get out of the troll game.
Set up criteria for what makes a great coach and grade each coach.
Recruiting
Scheme
Game/Clock Management
Player effort
Accountability
Etc.
Penalties
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 12, 2025, 12:29 PMSet up criteria for what makes a great coach and grade each coach.
Recruiting
Scheme
Game/Clock Management
Player effort
Accountability
Etc.
Houston Nutt gets an A for Etc.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 12, 2025, 03:40 PMHouston Nutt gets an A for Etc.
Add crab pinching to the list
On my face space page.
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Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 12, 2025, 11:32 AMWho, EXACTLY, should we get that we can 1) afford 2) would come.
List them out. Your list since you are a great knower of ball.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 12, 2025, 11:19 AMIf that's the best we can do, we need out of P4 ball.
Still waiting on your list, oh knower of balls
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 13, 2025, 02:39 PMStill waiting on your list, oh knower of balls
Not to defend him, but he has been saying to go get Brian Hartline.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Oct 14, 2025, 09:43 AMNot to defend him, but he has been saying to go get Brian Hartline.
So an assistant with zero head coaching experience. Ok.
Head coaching experience is irrelevant.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 07:37 AMHead coaching experience is irrelevant.
Ridiculous take.
Most of the guys who go straight from assistant to head coaching jobs successfully either do so at a lower level school or at a football factory where winning is easier. Rarely do you see one go to a place like Ole Miss, Arkansas, or MSU and succeed. You don't have the margin for error to learn how to manage a program on the fly here that you would at Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, etc.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 15, 2025, 07:43 AMRidiculous take.
Most of the guys who go straight from assistant to head coaching jobs successfully either do so at a lower level school or at a football factory where winning is easier. Rarely do you see one go to a place like Ole Miss, Arkansas, or MSU and succeed. You don't have the margin for error to learn how to manage a program on the fly here that you would at Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, etc.
Irrelevant. Loser mentality.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 07:57 AMIrrelevant. Loser mentality.
Yeah, history has no relevance. Better to take the 1/100 shot than the 1 in 5. Especially when the expected payout is the same.
I'll add this: if we do go the route of an assistant, hiring someone from Georgia, Ohio State, etc. makes the odds of success even worse. Whether we go with assistant or experienced HC we need to find someone with experience at a program where winning doesn't come easily. The worst possible move would be to go get someone like Schumann whose experience is all from places where you can recruit a top five class without ever getting on an airplane for a visit.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 15, 2025, 07:58 AMYeah, history has no relevance. Better to take the 1/100 shot than the 1 in 5. Especially when the expected payout is the same.
1 in 5 for what? Arkansas statistically has very little chance to lift the crystal. A retread coach certainly won't. Swinney had never even been a coordinator.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 08:03 AM1 in 5 for what? Arkansas statistically has very little chance to lift the crystal. A retread coach certainly won't. Swinney had never even been a coordinator.
One in five that your head coach turns out successful. Versus one in a hundred if you go get the hot name coordinator from a football factory.
Clemson has advantages that we don't. Much easier to win there. Even so, Dabo was about to be gone if he hadn't been saved by hiring Chad Morris while he was still an early adopter of the spread. Do you think Arkansas fans will be willing to sit through three years of underachieving while the next coach figures it out or happens into a good coordinator hire?
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 08:03 AMArkansas statistically has very little chance to lift the crystal.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 07:57 AMIrrelevant. Loser mentality.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 08:03 AM1 in 5 for what? Arkansas statistically has very little chance to lift the crystal. A retread coach certainly won't. Swinney had never even been a coordinator.
Neither had Sam. So didn't we just try that exact thing?
There's that saying about insanity.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 15, 2025, 07:58 AMYeah, history has no relevance. Better to take the 1/100 shot than the 1 in 5. Especially when the expected payout is the same.
I'll add this: if we do go the route of an assistant, hiring someone from Georgia, Ohio State, etc. makes the odds of success even worse. Whether we go with assistant or experienced HC we need to find someone with experience at a program where winning doesn't come easily. The worst possible move would be to go get someone like Schumann whose experience is all from places where you can recruit a top five class without ever getting on an airplane for a visit.
But what if we go the route of hiring an assistant who has ALSO been a head coach? There's lots of lions and tigers and whatever else, but there's only one Mike Bobo.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 15, 2025, 08:19 AMNeither had Sam. So didn't we just try that exact thing?
There's that saying about insanity.
We just didn't dig deep enough. We should find the best s&c coach and give him the head job.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 15, 2025, 11:13 AMWe just didn't dig deep enough. We should find the best s&c coach and give him the head job.
"The freaks come out at night" part deux
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 07:57 AMIrrelevant. Loser mentality.
Then explain why the Sam Pittman experiment failed.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 18, 2025, 10:49 AMThen explain why the Sam Pittman experiment failed.
What? Because he wasn't at all qualified for a head coaching job. No one wanted it but him though.
Quote from: HTL on Oct 18, 2025, 01:16 PMWhat? Because he wasn't at all qualified for a head coaching job. No one wanted it but him though.
Oh ok but you said
Quote from: HTL on Oct 15, 2025, 07:37 AMHead coaching experience is irrelevant.