Right here. Or, right beneath here.
I have nothing to apologize for. HY should be shot into the sun.
I am not Jeff Long nor the holier than though, PTB or BOT. Those asses need to apologize.
I can't even start. He was there. He was in the chair 8 months ago. We were competitive in every sec game. FUCK!
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In all honesty if we were going to just allow incompetence to run the AD then we might as well have kept Bert and took our 6 or 7 wins and a Texas Bowl each season with the odd 4 win blub every now and then.
Petrino would have torched these dudes by 60 today and we wouldnt know jack shit about our defense but then again we still really don't.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 05, 2026, 06:44 PMI have nothing to apologize for. HY should be shot into the sun.
Lot of people were ready for us to move on after last season. Also HY should be shot into the sun.
BP + a competitive MIL and we will win. You can't convince me otherwise.
I was demanding apologies for BMFP by 4-10-2012.
That's when the shit that happened today started. We are just living through the consequences. Murder victims never come back to life, or haven't since about 2000 years ago.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 05, 2026, 06:57 PMLot of people were ready for us to move on after last season. Also HY should be shot into the sun.
Lot should be shot into the sun too.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 05, 2026, 07:16 PMI was demanding apologies for BMFP by 4-10-2012.
That's when the shit that happened today started. We are just living through the consequences. Murder victims never come back to life, or haven't since about 2000 years ago.
It was announced when we were at dinner on my birthday. I'll never forget it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 05, 2026, 07:24 PMIt was announced when we were at dinner on my birthday. I'll never forget it.
What a birthday present.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 05, 2026, 07:16 PMI was demanding apologies for BMFP by 4-10-2012.
That's when the shit that happened today started. We are just living through the consequences. Murder victims never come back to life, or haven't since about 2000 years ago.
I was in Tennessee turkey hunting. I'll never forget it. We had a chance at redemption.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 05, 2026, 07:24 PMIt was announced when we were at dinner on my birthday. I'll never forget it.
I was at Dueseen Park at my kids baseball practice.
It will forever be one of those do you remember where you were days.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 05, 2026, 07:14 PMBP + a competitive MIL and we will win. You can't convince me otherwise.
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I'll never forget my BIL saying we're not to recover from this for at least 10 years. I was like, surely not. We're still a top 10 team this year. Ouch.
What's the over/under on when he becomes the interim at UNC? And how many more games will they win than us?
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Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 05, 2026, 06:57 PMLot of people were ready for us to move on after last season. Also HY should be shot into the sun.
There's a lot of dumbasses out there. That's why we will continue to lose for a long time. We have losers running the program and rooting for the program.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 06, 2026, 03:24 PMThere's a lot of dumbasses out there. That's why we will continue to lose for a long time. We have losers running the program and rooting for the program.
Those losers are going to bring back Nutt in some capacity. Just to finally destroy it all for good.
Y'all remember where you were when Bobby crashed out the way people remember where they were on 9/11. (I'd just finished a bike ride.)
Quote from: Fatissimal Jackson on Sep 06, 2026, 04:16 PMY'all remember where you were when Bobby crashed out the way people remember where they were on 9/11. (I'd just finished a bike ride.)
I was on a remote job site with no cell service in the office. PM had to go to McDonald's every day to use the wi-fi and send our reports, and he came back like "Bobby Petrino crashed a motorcycle." I thought it was an April Fools' gag. And then on the day of the firing I get a call from Matheson that it was coming about an hour before the announcement dropped.
God offered us an oasis in our desert of despair, and we walked away from it because we couldn't forgive a personal mistake.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 06, 2026, 04:55 PMI was on a remote job site with no cell service in the office. PM had to go to McDonald's every day to use the wi-fi and send our reports, and he came back like "Bobby Petrino crashed a motorcycle." I thought it was an April Fools' gag. And then on the day of the firing I get a call from Matheson that it was coming about an hour before the announcement dropped.
God offered us an oasis in our desert of despair, and we pompous assholes walked away from it because we pompous assholes couldn't forgive a personal mistake.
Fixt
I was at my 6 year old's baseball game when the news broke he was fired
I first thought it was an April Fools Joke.
When it was true, I thought, I hope he is ok.
Then when they said there was a passenger, I thought his wife was with him, and hope she is ok.
When they said it wasn't his wife, I said, "Fuck." Knew we were screwed.
I was drinking a beer in a bar when the swimming strength and conditions coach came in and said he had just whipped Bobby Petrino's ass...
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I read it here first when the Arkansas State Trooper posted about it. When he first posted he was being vague and "I know something you don't know about your hero," type shit. Then I point blank asked him if what he was saying was BMFP had a wreck, then he started spilling the beans, then disappeared from the thread. He was almost giddy about it. These are the types that were excited to run him off, and the ones that would still line up today to crown Nutt as AD.
Except he wouldnt be lining up, because not long after that he took his own life.
I was in Court in Benton, AR. Got finished and had a message to call my daughter. I called her and she told me this wild story which I really didn't believe at first...
Quote from: TC on Sep 06, 2026, 06:29 PMI read it here first when the Arkansas State Trooper posted about it. When he first posted he was being vague and "I know something you don't know about your hero," type shit. Then I point blank asked him if what he was saying was BMFP had a wreck, then he started spilling the beans, then disappeared from the thread. He was almost giddy about it. These are the types that were excited to run him off, and the ones that would still line up today to crown Nutt as AD.
Except he wouldnt be lining up, because not long after that he took his own life.
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I wish we had the old board's archive of it. Somebody posted that Petrino's kid left the bac in a pissy huff. I knew it was all over. It's been over since then. He needed an off season to get some defensive coaches and players in place.
Long and Bobby should have figured out a solution thru the original situation.
But he had his shot last season and failed. Hes not the right guy anymore. His offense looked stale against tcu. And he's a shitty recruiter.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 06, 2026, 11:09 PMLong and Bobby should have figured out a solution thru the original situation.
But he had his shot last season and failed. Hes not the right guy anymore. His offense looked stale against tcu. And he's a shitty recruiter.
Tex I love you but you are so wrong. Look at the point discrepancies last year. Watch them this year. He needed a minute to get the defense in place. Instead we got a dollar general coach in a shitty hat. It's all about being competitive. We were competitive in every game last year.
I don't know how anyone can have such hatred for Pittman and can accurately recognize how shitty of a team he assembled and then also equally blame a coach who takes that shitty team over 5 games into the season.
BP wasn't given an honest chance to show he could bring the program back from the depths of the hellish hole that Long/Smiles/Billema/Morris/HY/Pittman helped dig.
To suggest he was given every opportunity to earn the coaching role is just ignorant.
Here is what I do know. When BP took over in 2008, the program got better every single season. When he took over 5 games into the season last year, the team got better every game.
Blame Long and HY all you want. Arkansas fans are a major reason the football program sucks.
I know in 2009 the refs had to bail out Florida and LSU against us. In 2010 they did the same for Auburn. If Joe Adams doesn't drop 17 touchdown passes in the Sugar Bowl we might be talking about being 1-1 in BCS bowl appearances.
I'm willing to look past how his last run at Louisville ended and pretend he would have made us respectable again.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 07, 2026, 06:42 AMI know in 2009 the refs had to bail out Florida and LSU against us. In 2010 they did the same for Auburn. If Joe Adams doesn't drop 17 touchdown passes in the Sugar Bowl we might be talking about being 1-1 in BCS bowl appearances.
I'm willing to look past how his last run at Louisville ended and pretend he would have made us respectable again.
Scoop and score the damn ball!
I think he probably would've went 7-5 or 8-4 with that 2012 team, probably had a bounce back 2013 and gone 9-3 or 10-2 again, maybe done really well in 2014 as well and then the recruiting and lack of quality defense would've caught up.
By 2016 or 2017 he most likely would've wore out his welcome. That's just my take on that alternate timeline.
In 2012 he beats ULM and Rutgers for sure. I don't see him beating Alabama or A&M. He definitely finds a way to beat Ole Miss in Little Rock. But I think we still lose at South Carolina and maybe in Starkville as well. Not sure if we beat LSU. Probably.
Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 07, 2026, 08:53 AMI think he probably would've went 7-5 or 8-4 with that 2012 team, probably had a bounce back 2013 and gone 9-3 or 10-2 again, maybe done really well in 2014 as well and then the recruiting and lack of quality defense would've caught up.
By 2016 or 2017 he most likely would've wore out his welcome. That's just my take on that alternate timeline.
In 2012 he beats ULM and Rutgers for sure. I don't see him beating Alabama or A&M. He definitely finds a way to beat Ole Miss in Little Rock. But I think we still lose at South Carolina and maybe in Starkville as well. Not sure if we beat LSU. Probably.
This seems like a reasonable expectation.
If he had indeed shit the bed and been fired after 2017, the odds are we wouldn't have been hiring the likes of Chad Morris to replace him. That's what the "Bobby would have crashed and burned" people miss. A program he had coached for ten years would have had a much higher profile than one bottomed out by incompetence like we saw.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 07, 2026, 08:58 AMThis seems like a reasonable expectation.
If he had indeed shit the bed and been fired after 2017, the odds are we wouldn't have been hiring the likes of Chad Morris to replace him. That's what the "Bobby would have crashed and burned" people miss. A program he had coached for ten years would have had a much higher profile than one bottomed out by incompetence like we saw.
Absolutely. We avoid the abyss that Razorback football became and pretty much has been. The crazy thing is we have made the stadium nice as shit despite being mostly terrible since 2012.
I want to take pause for a second and congratulate Buff on another successful Bobby Petrino should still be the coach thread.
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Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Sep 06, 2026, 11:36 PMTex I love you but you are so wrong. Look at the point discrepancies last year. Watch them this year. He needed a minute to get the defense in place. Instead we got a dollar general coach in a shitty hat. It's all about being competitive. We were competitive in every game last year.
It's more than coaching. Bobby is not the man for the modern business of college ball. He's at best an OC without administration or recruiting duties. Silverfield might not be the right guy, but Bobby wasn't either.
Unfortunately Lane Kiffin is the new model; we might not like it but in the land without laws, the ones exploiting that succeed, at least until real law returns. Dabo wont do it out of ethics, Bobby is too lazy to do it, most of the other old guys don't know how to do it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 07, 2026, 06:30 AMI don't know how anyone can have such hatred for Pittman and can accurately recognize how shitty of a team he assembled and then also equally blame a coach who takes that shitty team over 5 games into the season.
BP wasn't given an honest chance to show he could bring the program back from the depths of the hellish hole that Long/Smiles/Billema/Morris/HY/Pittman helped dig.
To suggest he was given every opportunity to earn the coaching role is just ignorant.
Here is what I do know. When BP took over in 2008, the program got better every single season. When he took over 5 games into the season last year, the team got better every game.
Blame Long and HY all you want. Arkansas fans are a major reason the football program sucks.
It isn't like Bobby came in from the outside cold. That was his offense; he owned it all as Sam was just as mistreating from his desk since Bobby's arrival.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 07, 2026, 10:14 AMIt's more than coaching. Bobby is not the man for the modern business of college ball. He's at best an OC without administration or recruiting duties. Silverfield might not be the right guy, but Bobby wasn't either.
Unfortunately Lane Kiffin is the new model; we might not like it but in the land without laws, the ones exploiting that succeed, at least until real law returns. Dabo wont do it out of ethics, Bobby is too lazy to do it, most of the other old guys don't know how to do it.
I'm not sure what Bobby has done to convince you or anyone else that he's lazy.
Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 07, 2026, 08:53 AMI think he probably would've went 7-5 or 8-4 with that 2012 team, probably had a bounce back 2013 and gone 9-3 or 10-2 again, maybe done really well in 2014 as well and then the recruiting and lack of quality defense would've caught up.
By 2016 or 2017 he most likely would've wore out his welcome. That's just my take on that alternate timeline.
In 2012 he beats ULM and Rutgers for sure. I don't see him beating Alabama or A&M. He definitely finds a way to beat Ole Miss in Little Rock. But I think we still lose at South Carolina and maybe in Starkville as well. Not sure if we beat LSU. Probably.
It's hard to speculate anything because of the reality of Bobby's actions. Had he wrecked with a private sector mistress then it's between him and his wife ala Donna Bragg. But the stupidity of dipping into company ink, jobs, etc mandated something from the administration.
So we don't know what long and Bobby would have negotiated, or the punishment. It would not have been nothing, it's just the level of something.
How would that have affected Bobby? Would he be a bit contrite, and tone down the arrogance that led to his stupidity? Folks like a redemption story and he could have built one here instead of Louisville. Or he could have been resentful and looked for an out. We don't know. It's a fucking shame we missed on his most productive years.
The shame is Long inflicted on us basically a self imposed death penalty like smu endured after theirs. Smu retreated for decades while we're fighting for relevance as a sec football school.
I wish silverfield the best and hope he's the catalyst JFB was for the program (we don't have a Wilson Matthews). More realistically can he be the catalyst for change that Lanny van eman was after fuckwit Duddy Waller, leading to Eddie Sutton and Nolan. I see nothing coaching wise that says Bert or Chad, but he's gotta have money.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 07, 2026, 10:42 AMIt's hard to speculate anything because of the reality of Bobby's actions. Had he wrecked with a private sector mistress then it's between him and his wife ala Donna Bragg. But the stupidity of dipping into company ink, jobs, etc mandated something from the administration.
So we don't know what long and Bobby would have negotiated, or the punishment. It would not have been nothing, it's just the level of something.
How would that have affected Bobby? Would he be a bit contrite, and tone down the arrogance that led to his stupidity? Folks like a redemption story and he could have built one here instead of Louisville. Or he could have been resentful and looked for an out. We don't know. It's a fucking shame we missed on his most productive years.
The shame is Long inflicted on us basically a self imposed death penalty like smu endured after theirs. Smu retreated for decades while we're fighting for relevance as a sec football school.
I wish silverfield the best and hope he's the catalyst JFB was for the program (we don't have a Wilson Matthews). More realistically can he be the catalyst for change that Lanny van eman was after fuckwit Duddy Waller, leading to Eddie Sutton and Nolan. I see nothing coaching wise that says Bert or Chad, but he's gotta have money.
Yeah, I don't think any of us thought Bobby should have gotten off with no punishment. Long seemed to let personal feelings and/or personality differences (Bobby was a dick to a lot of people here his first time) lead him to rush straight to the most severe punishment when something else would have worked without killing the program.
It was the most Arkansas thing we could have done. We rehired Bobby, as OC, all knowing we have Pitts' successor and only coach that's had us relevant in the past 20 years, on campus. Only to show him the door again for a coach that has had a modicum of success, doubling his salary, unlocking golden handcuffs from his previous school. We're just going to suck until there's all new leadership up there.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 07, 2026, 10:49 AMIt was the most Arkansas thing we could have done. We rehired Bobby, as OC, all knowing we have Pitts' successor and only coach that's had us relevant in the past 20 years, on campus. Only to show him the door again for a coach that has had a modicum of success, doubling his salary, unlocking golden handcuffs from his previous school. We're just going to suck until there's all new leadership up there.
💯 Nothing will change until leadership changes.
Unless silverfield absolutely tanks, he's here three years. We're just passengers. I quit being passionate about the program during Nutt, and am just auditing the class. I have nary a time invested in it.
It's a shame because I was raised on JFB football and everything that went with it. Younger folks don't know the level of statewide rabid support it had, how the state stopped to listen to Bud Campbell do radio play by play and watching film with JFB Sunday afternoon. It was a special time and I hate that it's gone.
After one game I can confidently say: Ron Roberts is the best coach on staff. He has HC experience. He should have been HC and kept Bobby as OC.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 07, 2026, 11:33 AMAfter one game I can confidently say: Ron Roberts is the best coach on staff. He has HC experience. He should have been HC and kept Bobby as OC.
The defense did look well coached. They still lack talent but didn't combine it with abysmal fundamentals and an awful scheme.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 07, 2026, 10:49 AMIt was the most Arkansas thing we could have done. We rehired Bobby, as OC, all knowing we have Pitts' successor and only coach that's had us relevant in the past 20 years, on campus. Only to show him the door again for a coach that has had a modicum of success, doubling his salary, unlocking golden handcuffs from his previous school. We're just going to suck until there's all new leadership up there.
Spot on. I had zero expectations coming into the season and Saturday did nothing to change that. We are what we are.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 07, 2026, 11:07 AMIt's a shame because I was raised on JFB football and everything that went with it. Younger folks don't know the level of statewide rabid support it had, how the state stopped to listen to Bud Campbell do radio play by play and watching film with JFB Sunday afternoon. It was a special time and I hate that it's gone.
For awhile there we were like a second tier Ohio State - only one or two games even in doubt at the start of the year.
Bobby didn't exactly have the offense humming last year. Not real sure he's still got "it".
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 07, 2026, 05:35 PMBobby didn't exactly have the offense humming last year. Not real sure he's still got "it".
Turnovers killed us. We moved the ball great. Scored enough to where we probably could have won 7-8 games if the defense had been even unusually shitty instead of historically bad.
In my opnion Bobby Petrino is the best coach we put on the field since joining the SEC. Let's pretend for a moment. What if it was Nick Saban that had a wreck on a motorcycle riding around with a young staffer, one that he was throwing the sausage to, and on his payroll? Would he have been fired at Alabama? Think about it? Hell no! A black helicopter would have been on scene within a few minutes, him and his mistress would have been flown from the scene. Then like the movie "Men in Black" there would have been folks in black suits telling folks to watch here, you may see a flash.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 07, 2026, 05:37 PMTurnovers killed us. We moved the ball great. Scored enough to where we probably could have won 7-8 games if the defense had been even unusually shitty instead of historically bad.
Turnovers did kill us. But Bobby owns those turnovers. They were a part of his offense.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 07, 2026, 05:46 PMTurnovers did kill us. But Bobby owns those turnovers. They were a part of his offense.
No doubt. Level of detail wasn't what it used to be. I suspect a lot of that was not being able to be as hard on them with Pittman nominally in charge. But the plays he called worked.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 07, 2026, 05:46 PMTurnovers did kill us. But Bobby owns those turnovers. They were a part of his offense.
I guess I will never understand this thinking. The OC own the play call. The player owns the execution. The play wasn't designed to turn the ball over.
We've blamed SP for TOs the last several years. We hired a coach that preaches winning the TO margin. Biddy has said on several occasions that he has never seen a coach practice ball security more than RS. Yet we turn it over 3 times against an awful FCS school. These player's know to take care of the ball. They are the one's accountable.
We had the #5 offense in the SEC last season.
I mean, I don't actually know that, but it sounds accurate enough.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 07, 2026, 06:04 PMI guess I will never understand this thinking. The OC own the play call. The player owns the execution. The play wasn't designed to turn the ball over.
We've blamed SP for TOs the last several years. We hired a coach that preaches winning the TO margin. Biddy has said on several occasions that he has never seen a coach practice ball security more than RS. Yet we turn it over 3 times against an awful FCS school. These player's know to take care of the ball. They are the one's accountable.
Many of the turnovers last year were interceptions-- when our really athletic qb couldn't throw it to the right spot.
But BP didn't tell him to throw it to the wrong spot. Isn't that on the QB? Make the right read. Make a good throw. Those are the 2 things a QB is asked to do. That is literally his job.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 07, 2026, 06:11 PMBut BP didn't tell him to throw it to the wrong spot. Isn't that on the QB? Make the right read. Make a good throw. Those are the 2 things a QB is asked to do. That is literally his job.
And it's the coach's job to teach him how to make the read and the proper mechanics of the throws.
Look sure, a lot of it is on the players. But teach them better and play players who are less likely to fumble.
Fuck it. BP has always been a terrible coach. I'm glad he is gone.
I am just thankful our new guy knows after game one he needs to fix the problems!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 07, 2026, 06:22 PMI am just thankful our new guy knows after game one he needs to fix the problems!
If only he would have known to fix the problems before game one.
I'm happy for Bobby that he's rid of this loser program and it's base of loser mentality fans. For fucks sake X is full of people clamoring for Nutt to return as AD, and others who think BP got a fair shot after Pittman was fired mid season and the team quit on him. Then there's even another contingent still talking about the glory years of Frank fucking Broyles.
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I think bobby is still a good coach but he lost me going all in exclusivity with Taylor green despite the multiple mistakes and missed opportunities at key moments in games with the same mistakes time and time again, Lamar Jackson he was not but yes, who is?
His best success came with passers like mallet and Wilson and not dual threat guys which made it so puzzling why he rode so hard with green. He was really high on drake lindsey but that ship had sailed before he returned thanks to sam.
I went to the Mississippi st and Memphis games last year, and I can confidently say that BP is still one of the best offensive minds in football.
There was at least 1 wide receiver running WIDE OPEN on EVERY pass play, but many times either Green threw to the other side of the field into double or triple coverage or the OL was getting blown up and he was running for his life.
Last season was lost in the offseason with the awful strength and conditioning coach. That's not something any interim coach can fix during the middle of the season.
Had BP gotten the head coaching job over RS, this year would have been much better. We have dumbasses at the very top running the athletic department.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Sep 07, 2026, 06:24 PMIf only he would have known to fix the problems before game one.
I'd appreciate a full quote next time. What you quoted could lead some to further think I'm a retard.
Shut up and eat these grape-flavored paint chips
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Still can't get over that is Dan from Deadwood.
Green wasnt great but I'd take him in a heartbeat over KJ Jackson
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 07, 2026, 10:27 PMGreen wasnt great but I'd take him in a heartbeat over KJ Jackson
Same. He was ourc best option last year.
I was somewhat hopeful Bobby would go ahead and take KJ Jackson as the starter after it was clear the Hogs weren't doing shit anyway. But that probably would have just done damage to the kid. Bobby might have landed that job if he had put a couple W's on the board but with that bunch it just wasn't happening. At this stage of his career I'd take him as OC in a heart beat...as a HC I kinda think the sun has set.
When Jimbo comes in a few years maybe we can get a Space Cowboys type of dream team of coaches to come with him.
Quote from: TC on Sep 07, 2026, 06:46 PMI'm happy for Bobby that he's rid of this loser program and it's base of loser mentality fans. For fucks sake X is full of people clamoring for Nutt to return as AD, and others who think BP got a fair shot after Pittman was fired mid season and the team quit on him. Then there's even another contingent still talking about the glory years of Frank fucking Broyles.
Welcome to college athletics and the internet.
Quote from: arreferee on Sep 08, 2026, 10:21 AMWelcome to college athletics and the internet.
Horseshit. Our Administration has a history of making bone headed moves and gaslighting the morons that it was for "integrity," then telling you the reason we aren't better is because you're not giving enough
Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 07, 2026, 07:19 PMI think bobby is still a good coach but he lost me going all in exclusivity with Taylor green despite the multiple mistakes and missed opportunities at key moments in games with the same mistakes time and time again, Lamar Jackson he was not but yes, who is?
His best success came with passers like mallet and Wilson and not dual threat guys which made it so puzzling why he rode so hard with green. He was really high on drake lindsey but that ship had sailed before he returned thanks to sam.
Frank Fletcher
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 07, 2026, 06:05 PMWe had the #5 offense in the SEC last season.
I mean, I don't actually know that, but it sounds accurate enough.
#20 in the nation
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 07, 2026, 05:35 PMBobby didn't exactly have the offense humming last year. Not real sure he's still got "it".
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Quote from: Zoso on Sep 08, 2026, 12:08 PMFrank Fletcher
Which goes back to TC's congratulations post to Bobby for being rid of us
Quote from: animal on Sep 08, 2026, 06:27 AMI was somewhat hopeful Bobby would go ahead and take KJ Jackson as the starter after it was clear the Hogs weren't doing shit anyway. But that probably would have just done damage to the kid. Bobby might have landed that job if he had put a couple W's on the board but with that bunch it just wasn't happening. At this stage of his career I'd take him as OC in a heart beat...as a HC I kinda think the sun has set.
When Jimbo comes in a few years maybe we can get a Space Cowboys type of dream team of coaches to come with him.
Like this https://goheels.com/sports/football/coaches
Quote from: TC on Sep 08, 2026, 10:47 AMHorseshit. Our Administration has a history of making bone headed moves and gaslighting the morons that it was for "integrity," then telling you the reason we aren't better is because you're not giving enough
Every athletic fan base has crazy fans that are longing for something they had in the past, etc. Everyone here sees this place as the worst because we follow it so closely. I have a good friend who played baseball at Auburn and he says some in their fan base are saying similar things that we hear from Arkansas fans. I'm not saying it's not bad here, I'm saying every fan base has people like you mentioned above.
y'all just gonna keep this circle jerk goin all season?
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 08, 2026, 07:14 PMy'all just gonna keep this circle jerk goin all season?
all decade.
Quote from: Spiderham on Sep 08, 2026, 08:02 PMall decade.
Forever and ever, in JFB's name, Amen.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 08, 2026, 07:14 PMy'all just gonna keep this circle jerk goin all season?
I'll stop once we get back to a BCS bowl
Quote from: Zoso on Sep 08, 2026, 12:08 PMFrank Fletcher
Yep.
Fletcher was responsible for getting Bobby and Green to Arkansas. As noted above, the offense wasn't the problem last season.
All of these apologies to Bobby posts after a shitty first game by Silverfield. We looked like crap, no doubt, but I guess no one remembers Bobby's first 2 games as Arkansas HC.
Game 1: Down 10 points at home to Western Illinois (same division as UNA) with 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. Had to score with just over 1 minute to win the game.
Game 2: Down 13 points at home to La-Monroe with 11 minutes in the 4th quarter. Same as above, had to score with just over a 1 minutes to win.
No reasonable person felt the UNA game was ever in doubt. Pissed beyond belief, but the game was never in doubt. I remember both of the above BP games, and there was absolutely doubt well into the 4th quarter.
Silverfield has a lot to prove, but his first game as an Arkansas HC was not nearly as ugly as BP's first 2 games as HC. Give the guy at least a chance to show it can get better, or that he's not the guy.
Quote from: hogwildinhouston on Sep 09, 2026, 07:07 PMAll of these apologies to Bobby posts after a shitty first game by Silverfield. We looked like crap, no doubt, but I guess no one remembers Bobby's first 2 games as Arkansas HC.
Game 1: Down 10 points at home to Western Illinois (same division as UNA) with 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. Had to score with just over 1 minute to win the game.
Game 2: Down 13 points at home to La-Monroe with 11 minutes in the 4th quarter. Same as above, had to score with just over a 1 minutes to win.
No reasonable person felt the UNA game was ever in doubt. Pissed beyond belief, but the game was never in doubt. I remember both of the above BP games, and there was absolutely doubt well into the 4th quarter.
Silverfield has a lot to prove, but his first game as an Arkansas HC was not nearly as ugly as BP's first 2 games as HC. Give the guy at least a chance to show it can get better, or that he's not the guy.
Are you fucking kidding? Bob stole those games. Those were got damn fucking loses with out h*m.
BP played a lot of freshmen that year.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 08, 2026, 07:14 PMy'all just gonna keep this circle jerk goin all season?
A Bobby Petrino doesn't give a fuck about your apology thread should be started by next week.
Quote from: animal on Sep 09, 2026, 08:13 PMA Bobby Petrino doesn't give a fuck about your apology thread should be started by next week.
It's the natural evolution of things
Quote from: hogwildinhouston on Sep 09, 2026, 07:07 PMAll of these apologies to Bobby posts after a shitty first game by Silverfield. We looked like crap, no doubt, but I guess no one remembers Bobby's first 2 games as Arkansas HC.
Game 1: Down 10 points at home to Western Illinois (same division as UNA) with 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. Had to score with just over 1 minute to win the game.
Game 2: Down 13 points at home to La-Monroe with 11 minutes in the 4th quarter. Same as above, had to score with just over a 1 minutes to win.
No reasonable person felt the UNA game was ever in doubt. Pissed beyond belief, but the game was never in doubt. I remember both of the above BP games, and there was absolutely doubt well into the 4th quarter.
Silverfield has a lot to prove, but his first game as an Arkansas HC was not nearly as ugly as BP's first 2 games as HC. Give the guy at least a chance to show it can get better, or that he's not the guy.
Difference is that team had a lot more SEC talent than this team does, especially on the offensive line and at the skill positions.
Quote from: hogwildinhouston on Sep 09, 2026, 07:07 PMAll of these apologies to Bobby posts after a shitty first game by Silverfield. We looked like crap, no doubt, but I guess no one remembers Bobby's first 2 games as Arkansas HC.
Game 1: Down 10 points at home to Western Illinois (same division as UNA) with 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. Had to score with just over 1 minute to win the game.
Game 2: Down 13 points at home to La-Monroe with 11 minutes in the 4th quarter. Same as above, had to score with just over a 1 minutes to win.
No reasonable person felt the UNA game was ever in doubt. Pissed beyond belief, but the game was never in doubt. I remember both of the above BP games, and there was absolutely doubt well into the 4th quarter.
Silverfield has a lot to prove, but his first game as an Arkansas HC was not nearly as ugly as BP's first 2 games as HC. Give the guy at least a chance to show it can get better, or that he's not the guy.
Register, wait almost a year, and then this is your first post. Not bad.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Sep 11, 2026, 03:08 PMRegister, wait almost a year, and then this is your first post. Not bad.
I've been waiting for this... Was on the old Woopig board from early 2001s on, but took me a while to find this one. Read every day, and swore that's all I'd do until Jack Daniels finally had other ideas.
What occurred Saturday that gave you hope for this season or the future? There was plenty to go in with BMFP after his first close win.
I'll hang up and listen.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 11, 2026, 06:28 PMWhat occurred Saturday that gave you hope for this season or the future? There was plenty to go in with BMFP after his first close win.
I'll hang up and listen.
Bobby was also a proven winner. Took UL to the Orange Bowl. We knew what we had (a bunch of S-tier freshman, and Ryan Mallett waiting in the wings).
Silverware underperformed at Memphis State vs his predecessors. He had maybe the biggest budget of his conference and never lived up to the expectations.
Y'all might as well start a Lou Holtz thread too. You have just as much of a chance getting him back as you do grandpa Petrion.
I hear Kenny Hatfield has dementia.
Maybe he'd take the job again.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Sep 11, 2026, 07:06 PMY'all might as well start a Lou Holtz thread too. You have just as much of a chance getting him back as you do grandpa Petrion.
Apples to oranges. Bob was here 8 months ago putting up an historic offense with nobody players. We will never have a real sec defense. The only way we compete is to score points.
But he didn't win. Bobby was not the right person for the job. If he was another school would have offered him a hc job. The game is nothing like what it was in his first round.
He hates recruiting and schmoozing donors. A modern hc has to suck a lot of donor dick and he's closer to dabo in that regard. He's not an accessible hc nor a politician nor a savvy social media dude.
Is silverfield the right hire? Remains to be seen but he's closer to what the program needs. But as long as Yuri is here it's going to be a struggle.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 12, 2026, 12:35 PMBut he didn't win. Bobby was not the right person for the job. If he was another school would have offered him a hc job. The game is nothing like what it was in his first round.
He hates recruiting and schmoozing donors. A modern hc has to suck a lot of donor dick and he's closer to dabo in that regard. He's not an accessible hc nor a politician nor a savvy social media dude.
Is silverfield the right hire? Remains to be seen but he's closer to what the program needs. But as long as Yuri is here it's going to be a struggle.
I love Bobby, but we needed to move on.
The meltdown against MSU sealed it for me. That loss and the way it happened was unforgivable.
The one where the league decided we weren't going to be allowed to win, and the University thanked them for the opportunity to be bitch slapped again?
LSU got it right.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 12, 2026, 01:28 PMI love Bobby, but we needed to move on.
The meltdown against MSU sealed it for me. That loss and the way it happened was unforgivable.
Isn't that the game were BP bitched about a call and they threw flags on 6 of the next 8 plays ?
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 12, 2026, 02:15 PMIsn't that the game were BP bitched about a call and they threw flags on 6 of the next 8 plays ?
Yes. But that doesn't matter. Motorcycle man bad.
There's a reason the rear view mirror is so much smaller than the windshield.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Sep 12, 2026, 02:21 PMThere's a reason the rear view mirror is so much smaller than the windshield.
Because it would look really retarded to have a giant rear view mirror?
If all Bobby had to do was coach the offense and call plays, there is none better in the country at any level.
As a head coach, now, he can't do it. Recruiting and nil deals and pampering kids making $100k+, he can't do it.
You can't use fear and intimidation to coach the players in today's game.
If I was an NFL coach I would absolutely have hired The Petrion as OC at any point he was available. And still would. That was evident after his stint with the jags. He made Mark Brunell all-pro.
Quote from: TC on Sep 12, 2026, 03:26 PMBecause it would look really retarded to have a giant rear view mirror?
There are two reasons why the rear view is smaller than the windshield. 😏
Quote from: BASS on Sep 12, 2026, 03:28 PMIf all Bobby had to do was coach the offense and call plays, there is none better in the country at any level.
As a head coach, now, he can't do it. Recruiting and nil deals and pampering kids making $100k+, he can't do it.
You can't use fear and intimidation to coach the players in today's game.
So, since it's a given we won't be able to compete in those ways, wouldn't it make sense to go with a guy with a history of winning with less than stellar talent...here?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 12, 2026, 03:37 PMSo, since it's a given we won't be able to compete in those ways, wouldn't it make sense to go with a guy with a history of winning with less than stellar talent...here?
His history of winning was in a different era. He can't win in the NIL era. NO ONE else wanted him as HC, yet some of y'all do?
That's definitely Arkansas thinking. "We want a coach that no one else in the country wants as a HC."
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Sep 12, 2026, 04:00 PMHis history of winning was in a different era. He can't win in the NIL era. NO ONE else wanted him as HC, yet some of y'all do?
That's definitely Arkansas thinking. "We want a coach that no one else in the country wants as a HC."
If he won 2 of those games he should've been coach of the year with the team of quitters he was left. But he didn't, so of course no one was going to hire him as the head coach.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Sep 12, 2026, 04:00 PMHis history of winning was in a different era. He can't win in the NIL era. NO ONE else wanted him as HC, yet some of y'all do?
That's definitely Arkansas thinking. "We want a coach that no one else in the country wants as a HC."
We don't know if he can win in the NIL era. We do know that he has won with significantly less talent than the schools on his schedule, because he's done it at multiple stops. The reason for the talent disparity is irrelevant. Whether it's subpar NIL or the fact that the slave ships didn't dock here (per Nolan), we are still short handed either way.
Hopefully Silvernuts pulls a win out of his ass and makes this discussion moot.
As far as Bobby not being able to recruit in the NIL era, the high dollar guys we brought in the last two years came because Bobby identified them and convinced booster(s) to pay them. You know Pittman's fat ass had nothing to do with it.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Sep 12, 2026, 04:00 PMHe can't win in the NIL era.
And of course this is opinion. There is zero proof he can't coach in the NIL era.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 12, 2026, 07:12 PMAnd of course this is opinion. There is zero proof he can't coach in the NIL era.
But we have all the proof in the world that no school WANTS him to be HC in the NIL era.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 12, 2026, 07:12 PMAnd of course this is opinion. There is zero proof he can't coach in the NIL era.
The response you quoted, is the mentality of the reason why we can't have nice things. "Bobby can't compete in NIL." Just bullshit. Maybe he's not an elbow rubber type of guy, but he could certainly identify the talent and run the scheme necessary to compete at a much higher level than we have the past 15 years.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Sep 12, 2026, 07:22 PMBut we have all the proof in the world that no school WANTS him to be HC in the NIL era.
Do we have any proof that anyone wanted our current head coach? Memphis didn't.
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 12, 2026, 07:33 PMDo we have any proof that anyone wanted our current head coach? Memphis didn't.
I'm not as sold as you that Memphis wanted rid of Silverdong. But the fact that the worst AD in the country did want him is not a ringing endorsement.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 12, 2026, 07:40 PMI'm not as sold as you that Memphis wanted rid of Silverdong. But the fact that the worst AD in the country did want him is not a ringing endorsement.
He's no Long Dong Silver.
Here is what I believe.
BP would be , at minimum, a 7-8 win a year coach. He has the historical backing to show he can lead a program to 9-11 wins every 3 or 4 years. E plosive high scoring offenses coupled with average defenses win games.
We seem to be content hiring coaches that can average 4-6 wins a year. I believe Silversurfer will be more of the same. I truly hope I'm wrong.
Anyway, is what it is.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 12, 2026, 07:40 PMI'm not as sold as you that Memphis wanted rid of Silverdong. But the fact that the worst AD in the country did want him is not a ringing endorsement.
I base it on being a resident of the area. The radio talk, local talk. Etc. I can confidently say that the majority of their fans were not upset that we hired him.
I haven't thrown in the towel on him. I'm hopeful that he succeeds and proves my doubts wrong.
Quote from: BASS on Sep 12, 2026, 03:28 PMIf all Bobby had to do was coach the offense and call plays, there is none better in the country at any level.
As a head coach, now, he can't do it. Recruiting and nil deals and pampering kids making $100k+, he can't do it.
You can't use fear and intimidation to coach the players in today's game.
If I was an NFL coach I would absolutely have hired The Petrion as OC at any point he was available. And still would. That was evident after his stint with the jags. He made Mark Brunell all-pro.
I know you have serious malice for Bobby, but in all the land he was t offered a hc gig at any level of CFB, or OC in the nfl, or anywhere but nC for bill. That's it.
Those who know the game deeper than any of us rejected him. He's not in a rehab program with bill, who cares nothing about his coaches opportunities.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 12, 2026, 08:43 PMI know you have serious malice for Bobby, but in all the land he was t offered a hc gig at any level of CFB, or OC in the nfl, or anywhere but nC for bill. That's it.
Those who know the game deeper than any of us rejected him. He's not in a rehab program with bill, who cares nothing about his coaches opportunities.
Because we all know "those who know the game deeper" make the best decisions.
I guess you're a HY fan now?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 12, 2026, 09:11 PMBecause we all know "those who know the game deeper" make the best decisions.
I guess you're a HY fan now?
And that dude is a Cowboys fan whose watched Jerry Jones bungle years of Dallas Cowboy seasons.
Fuck our fans. Silverfield sucks ass.
Bobby MF Petrino doesn't give a fuck about your apologies.
BUMP
I never anticipated a baby shit soft team out of this new staff but yeah this is bad...like Chad 1.0 bad. This dude will be lucky to make it thru next season.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 12, 2026, 09:11 PMBecause we all know "those who know the game deeper" make the best decisions.
I guess you're a HY fan now?
No not a hy fan. I'm saying that BP and Silverfield could both be bad hires. The game is beyond X's and O's more than ever, and where you now have to be good, BP is not. Out of 32 nfl teams not one called him; is it career blackball from his Atlanta departure, or not one GM saw anything they wanted. Not a single D1 school called him. He's done as a HC. Wishing he were here is the same bullshit we've lived with for decades, pining for Jimmy or Lou or bmfp. Gotta look forward.
I've been a fan of this team since before I understood football. Back then Razorbacks were everywhere; Jackie Brasuell came to my friend's birthday party, his nephew. Fourth grade teacher was Ronnie Jones mom. Dad bought tires from martine bircher's dad. "He's a Razorback" was something awesome to a child. You can't imagine how Frank Broyles energized the entire state, how we were glued to the radio with Bud Campbell, how JFB took a poor program without a decent airport and showed the state it could compete with big bad teams from Texas.
Those mid60's teams were remarkable. And then the big shootout happened. It really broke JFB, my dad, the program. Some attribute coaches success in that era to the de facto segregation of college football in the SEC and SWC, but I disagree. Frank signed Jon Richardson and broke that barrier but walked a tightrope. I think the decline of the program started with the missed clip on Jimmy streets TD run. Since then it's been blips of near greatness in a morass of mediocrity.
Quote from: animal on Sep 13, 2026, 07:29 AMI never anticipated a baby shit soft team out of this new staff but yeah this is bad...like Chad 1.0 bad. This dude will be lucky to make it thru next season.
There was a shot of him on the sideline where he looked like he was contemplating his next coaching move. I think he knows he made a mistake coming here.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 13, 2026, 08:47 AMNo not a hy fan. I'm saying that BP and Silverfield could both be bad hires. The game is beyond X's and O's more than ever, and where you now have to be good, BP is not. Out of 32 nfl teams not one called him; is it career blackball from his Atlanta departure, or not one GM saw anything they wanted. Not a single D1 school called him. He's done as a HC. Wishing he were here is the same bullshit we've lived with for decades, pining for Jimmy or Lou or bmfp. Gotta look forward.
I've been a fan of this team since before I understood football. Back then Razorbacks were everywhere; Jackie Brasuell came to my friend's birthday party, his nephew. Fourth grade teacher was Ronnie Jones mom. Dad bought tires from martine bircher's dad. "He's a Razorback" was something awesome to a child. You can't imagine how Frank Broyles energized the entire state, how we were glued to the radio with Bud Campbell, how JFB took a poor program without a decent airport and showed the state it could compete with big bad teams from Texas.
Those mid60's teams were remarkable. And then the big shootout happened. It really broke JFB, my dad, the program. Some attribute coaches success in that era to the de facto segregation of college football in the SEC and SWC, but I disagree. Frank signed Jon Richardson and broke that barrier but walked a tightrope. I think the decline of the program started with the missed clip on Jimmy streets TD run. Since then it's been blips of near greatness in a morass of mediocrity.
This is how shitty our program is. We have old timers (no disrespect, Tex) still talking about the glory years of the 60's. All hail JFB! Fuck him, he's a large part of why we are where we are. Pissed away Holtz with his ego, couldn't land JJ because of his ego, and kept an ass kissing yes man around years and years longer than he should have, why? Because he kissed Franks ass. The stench of his later years is still on this program.
you're not wrong
Quote from: TC on Sep 13, 2026, 11:16 AMThis is how shitty our program is. We have old timers (no disrespect, Tex) still talking about the glory years of the 60's. All hail JFB! Fuck him, he's a large part of why we are where we are. Pissed away Holtz with his ego, couldn't land JJ because of his ego, and kept an ass kissing yes man around years and years longer than he should have, why? Because he kissed Franks ass. The stench of his later years is still on this program.
I don't think you lived in the greatness of those days so you look at everything with the recency bias of your generation. But I digress. Frank made a ton of errors as AD to go with the great things he did. Failing to hire Jimmy was his absolute worst mistake. His later years were marred with his stupid battle with Nolan and his dicksucking of Hootie.
Lou was going to leave. He hated living in NWA. He loved being on Johnny Carson's and endorsing NC klansmen like Jesse helms. His real issue was killing franks high school coaching network, telling them to contact his agent and requiring honorariums for going to high school banquets.
I grew up in a magic time when the hogs were relevant every season. I'm smart enough to know those days will never return, and that we need a hc closer to lane kiffin than distant. Personally I don't think football relevance will ever return
In the season before coming to Arkansas, Bobby had the most expensive team in the country with the most expensive coaching staff...7-6 from his massive OC brain.
Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 17, 2026, 09:49 AMIn the season before coming to Arkansas, Bobby had the most expensive team in the country with the most expensive coaching staff...7-6 from his massive OC brain.
Did you ever see the interview where Petrino said that Jimbo forced him to learn his plays and terminology? Said he spent the first several months learning Jimbo's playbook and what he wanted.
In the "What if" game of people Frank didn't hire... would Pete Carroll have ever accomplished anything here?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 17, 2026, 10:05 AMDid you ever see the interview where Petrino said that Jimbo forced him to learn his plays and terminology? Said he spent the first several months learning Jimbo's playbook and what he wanted.
There is no rational reasoning with our fan base. I've accepted it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 17, 2026, 10:12 AMThere is no rational reasoning with our fan base. I've accepted it.
I noticed the "Bobby couldn't even win with last year's team" people have gotten quiet in the game threads. Should have looked at the market and given him at least this year. Instead we rushed to be the first to hire a Memphis coach no one else was actually interviewing. Now I'm stuck hoping that Memphis coach turns it around and makes us winners again.
I've moved on. Is what it is. Maybe our next coach will be better.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 03, 2026, 06:40 PMI've moved on. Is what it is. Maybe our next coach will be better.
The PTB showed us in 2012 that we weren't a serious program.
I don't know if BP would have us looking like a real team. But I do know he would wear a fucking tucked in polo and his neck vein would probably explode from all the yelling he would be doing.
I owe no apologies to Bobby, because I was always on his side. He deserved to have the mess swept under the rug in 2012 like any other real SEC school would have and he deserved a chance of redemption in 2026.
This is the football equivalent of the Nolan curse.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 03, 2026, 09:13 PMI don't know if BP would have us looking like a real team. But I do know he would wear a fucking tucked in polo and his neck vein would probably explode from all the yelling he would be doing.
That may be what irks me the most. Show some damn emotion. Some fight. When you trot out 12 guys on a 25 yd FG attempt, chew someone's ass out.
Yep. It seems like the stage is too big for SF. He doesn't have an answer so he just sits there.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 03, 2026, 09:37 PMYep. It seems like the stage is too big for SF. He doesn't have an answer so he just sits there.
He looked engaged last year when they came back from what looked like a blowout to accept our gift of a free win.
Every game so far here he's looked like a deer in the headlights. Not retarded like Morris...just scared and overwhelmed.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 05, 2026, 08:09 AMHe looked engaged last year when they came back from what looked like a blowout to accept our gift of a free win.
Every game so far here he's looked like a deer in the headlights. Not retarded like Morris...just scared and overwhelmed.
Or not-yet-fat and happy.
Maybe he's just the type to have only a smolder in his belly.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 07, 2026, 10:26 PMOr not-yet-fat and happy.
Maybe he's just the type to have only a smolder in his belly.
He ain't worried. I'd love to be able to land a job way outside of my abilities and get paid $6 mil to go away when it didn't work out. He DGAF. Much like the players. They're getting paid regardless of outcome. Why would they try any harder? Why risk getting hurt when you can tiptoe up to the line and preserve yourself because the team is embarrassingly bad anyway?
All of this reeks. NIL has killed college football for the lesser-thans.
I do wonder now if we would be this bad if Bobby had gotten the job. Somehow I don't think we would be stinkholed in every sec game.
Since Bobby took another OC job and from his own words, just wanted to teach offense again (in so many words, whether or not just saying it to support sam at the time), I wouldn't be surprised if he wouldn't have stayed on as OC.