SEC opponents announced. We play UK twice again, TN at home, and Bama on the road. Not bad.
https://twitter.com/hunteryurachek/status/1673371970006556672?s=46&t=Md_cCWg90hmofgoXnU1fug
No OU or Texas?
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jun 26, 2023, 03:09 PMNo OU or Texas?
This is for 2023-24. Texas and OU are 2024-25.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 26, 2023, 01:58 PMSEC opponents announced. We play UK twice again, TN at home, and Bama on the road. Not bad.
https://twitter.com/hunteryurachek/status/1673371970006556672?s=46&t=Md_cCWg90hmofgoXnU1fug
Agree. Getting Auburn at home is good, too. Not sure how good they're supposed to be next year, but that is always a tough environment on the road.
Hogs get Duke in the SEC-ACC Challenge.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jun 28, 2023, 10:11 AMHogs get Duke in the SEC-ACC Challenge.
In BWA. Hell yes.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1674072971067965441?
Going to be an awesome non conf schedule with the Duke game coming right after the Bahamas tournament that we are in with Memphis, Michigan, North Carolina, Northern Iowa, Stanford, Texas Tech, and Villanova.
Win half of those games and people are talking about us, again.
We're about to take a commitment from a Southern Miss transfer.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jun 28, 2023, 12:14 PMWin half of those games and people are talking about us, again.
Win them all and we can impregnate their wives and girlfriends
Quote from: BASS on Jun 28, 2023, 01:09 PMWin them all and we can impregnate their wives and girlfriends
This is the way.
I'd rather that Duke game be later in the season but I guess that's a good "get ready for conference type of game.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jun 28, 2023, 10:11 AMHogs get Duke in the SEC-ACC Challenge.
Bring. It.
it's a win-win. they'll be ranked in the top 5 so even if we take a loss that early in the season we'll get a solid bump in rpi down the road. that's assuming neither team ends up sucking balls.
Didn't see it posted, but the great white buffalo bison hitched his wagon to the gumps.
Quote from: animal on Jun 28, 2023, 05:49 PMI'd rather that Duke game be later in the season but I guess that's a good "get ready for conference type of game.
At least playing them early probably means the odds of us having the whole roster available are much higher. Later in the season, not so much.
WTF? My former neighbor who moved to NWA just texted me this morning. Background: he often roots for the Razorbacks and I've seen him at BWA, DWRRS, and BWS. BUT, he often will send weird texts to me when the Hogs lose or something kinda giving me shit. I often thought that was strange. Anyway...back to the story...he texts me this morning and says "If you happen to find any extra tickets to AR vs. Duke, let me know. I'm a huge Duke fan and would love to see them play." I'M LIKE WHAT THE FUCK??? No way in hell I'm getting you extra tix to come to BWA and root for Duke. Do you not even know me, man? Kinda explains his mild Hog ragging from past days. Fuck.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jun 30, 2023, 09:48 AMWTF? My former neighbor who moved to NWA just texted me this morning. Background: he often roots for the Razorbacks and I've seen him at BWA, DWRRS, and BWS. BUT, he often will send weird texts to me when the Hogs lose or something kinda giving me shit. I often thought that was strange. Anyway...back to the story...he texts me this morning and says "If you happen to find any extra tickets to AR vs. Duke, let me know. I'm a huge Duke fan and would love to see them play." I'M LIKE WHAT THE FUCK??? No way in hell I'm getting you extra tix to come to BWA and root for Duke. Do you not even know me, man? Kinda explains his mild Hog ragging from past days. Fuck.
If I had extra tickets, I'd burn them before I gave them to a Dukie.
Quote from: Gambler on Jun 30, 2023, 10:30 AMIf I had extra tickets, I'd burn them before I gave them to a Dukie.
No shit. I was like....AYFKM??
Rick or anyone, if you see extra tix for Duke game, let me know. It will be a me and my wife yelling hard for a repeat of 94.
Don't know if this belongs here or not, but interesting stuff on proposed renovations to Bud Walton.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/ (https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/)
Supposedly one proposal is for suites near the floor.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jul 25, 2023, 11:36 AMDon't know if this belongs here or not, but interesting stuff on proposed renovations to Bud Walton.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/ (https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/)
Supposedly one proposal is for suites near the floor.
And also reducing the number of seats by 2k. Total horseshit.
Quote from: Hogz on Jul 25, 2023, 12:28 PMAnd also reducing the number of seats by 2k. Total horseshit.
I liked how Matt Jones called it out.
If a woopigger hit this megamillions jackpot and wanted to give a chunk over to the university with the caveat being that the powers that be build a new arena with about 5k more seats, where would be the best place to put it? Blow up Barnhill and relocate the volleyball and gymnastics meets?
I heard rumors of an off campus arena being built. This came from a very trusted source. Not sure where that landed.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jul 25, 2023, 02:36 PMThis came from a very trusted source.
(https://media.tenor.com/x-FL-l7ERS4AAAAC/and-here-we-go-joker.gif)
Put the stadium where Razorback Gardens is and reinstall Razorback Gardens where the stadium is. Lot 56 just became basketball parking.
More suites and boxes. The little guy is irrelevant.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jul 25, 2023, 03:07 PMMore suites and boxes. The little guy is irrelevant.
Do you want the cheese wheel crowd, or the nacho cheese fountain crowd? The latter will make a lot more noise. The former will donate and golf clap when you beat Kentucky.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 25, 2023, 03:05 PMPut the stadium where Razorback Gardens is and reinstall Razorback Gardens where the stadium is. Lot 56 just became basketball parking.
Isn't lot 56 already basketball parking? We had permit parking there years ago when we had season tickets.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jul 25, 2023, 11:36 AMDon't know if this belongs here or not, but interesting stuff on proposed renovations to Bud Walton.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/ (https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-bud-walton-arena-proposed-renovations-matt-jones/)
Supposedly one proposal is for suites near the floor.
he's not wrong about the atmosphere.
It has happened at Baum-Walker since the money grab/seat relocation in the atmosphere is not half of what it was before.
not surprising - most admins never leave their pampered box and have no clue what the game day experience is for the ticket buying fan.
I love hog hoops but the fan experience at BWA is to the point I think I would rather watch it on tv.
When you build more boxes and reduce seating then what is left becomes that much more premium. I don't know how the average hardcore fan can afford to go to a game for any of the big three sports and sit anywhere other than the nose bleeds. Sad really.
I'm going to hazard that with NIL you're going to get a lot more people (donors/sponsors) wanting to be near the action rubbing elbows. This is one of those things where it's shitty the regular fans and alumni...but the ends may justify the means.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jul 25, 2023, 04:54 PMhe's not wrong about the atmosphere.
It has happened at Baum-Walker since the money grab/seat relocation in the atmosphere is not half of what it was before.
not surprising - most admins never leave their pampered box and have no clue what the game day experience is for the ticket buying fan.
I love hog hoops but the fan experience at BWA is to the point I think I would rather watch it on tv.
Me too. Jim robken weeps.
I plan on paying through the nose for duke tix.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jul 25, 2023, 05:22 PMWhen you build more boxes and reduce seating then what is left becomes that much more premium. I don't know how the average hardcore fan can afford to go to a game for any of the big three sports and sit anywhere other than the nose bleeds. Sad really.
I assume you don't consider me the average hard core fan.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jul 25, 2023, 06:56 PMI assume you don't consider me the average hard core fan.
You are most definitely not the average hard core fan. You have a pig part in your body for goodness sakes.
I'll say this, the Auburn game year before last was loud as fuck.
https://twitter.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1684277628734169094?s=20
Gonna say it, good look for Purdue to come down for this.
https://twitter.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1684278083702886400?s=20
I've been trying to get one more basketball seat for the past couple of years. My selection time was this morning.
Lower bowl is once again completely sold out. Upper level has a few scattered seats available.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 26, 2023, 02:32 PMI've been trying to get one more basketball seat for the past couple of years. My selection time was this morning.
Lower bowl is once again completely sold out. Upper level has a few scattered seats available.
You're simply not paying enough. Did you try telling them you are RickB?
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1684279763471400960?t=Jw0TZv-aKEHNjqYHno5U6g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1684279763471400960?t=Jw0TZv-aKEHNjqYHno5U6g&s=19)
Pinion looks like he's ready to roll into art lecture and ask for a scantron.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 26, 2023, 02:32 PMI've been trying to get one more basketball seat for the past couple of years. My selection time was this morning.
Lower bowl is once again completely sold out. Upper level has a few scattered seats available.
I'm mildly surprised that I haven't gotten an email saying tickets are sold out, given that I have an appointment for Friday.
If they have two available that aren't blocked by a speaker or something I'll probably pull the trigger.
Did they do the same thing for football and I missed it? I got the basketball email and not interested in upgrading but I'd like to make some changes in football.
Quote from: CardHog on Jul 26, 2023, 07:00 PMDid they do the same thing for football and I missed it? I got the basketball email and not interested in upgrading but I'd like to make some changes in football.
They did in football, but I think it was in March. It was right around the time my son decided he was going to the UA.
Quote from: CardHog on Jul 26, 2023, 07:00 PMDid they do the same thing for football and I missed it? I got the basketball email and not interested in upgrading but I'd like to make some changes in football.
Yeah you missed it.
Bud Walton completely sold out for 23-24 MBB season as of noon today.
Hope you got your tickets DP
Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 28, 2023, 12:25 PMBud Walton completely sold out for 23-24 MBB season as of noon today.
Hope you got your tickets DP
My appointment is in five minutes, but I logged in earlier and got the message that all tickets sold out yesterday. So no luck for me.
We have a family member that bought two and won't be able to make many games. Let me know when you're looking and I may be able to help out. Believe they are middle-ish upper deck.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jul 28, 2023, 01:02 PMWe have a family member that bought two and won't be able to make many games. Let me know when you're looking and I may be able to help out. Believe they are middle-ish upper deck.
Thank you. I will almost certainly take you up on that...especially if they plan on missing any weekend games.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jul 28, 2023, 12:31 PMMy appointment is in five minutes, but I logged in earlier and got the message that all tickets sold out yesterday. So no luck for me.
Sorry. I could have gotten you some in the upper deck when I was on looking. I have 3 in the lower corner behind the Hog bench. Pretty good seats. I keep trying to get a 4th in the lower bowl but have failed the past two years. (Stupid of me to not get 4 but was trying to save a buck at the time.). My 3 are available if my daughter who lives up there doesn't want them or I'm not coming up. They don't get used for a few weekday games each year.
Purdue tickets on sale today.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Aug 01, 2023, 09:50 AMPurdue tickets on sale today.
According to the email I got you can start requesting tickets for the OU game in Tulsa and the whoeverthefuckitis game in NLR. However, when you click the link the Purdue game is the only thing showing up.
https://twitter.com/TorresOnUK/status/1686361231274250241?s=20
Dude looks like he could beat the piss out of Vanover.
Saw where that guy is 20, entered the last two NBA drafts, and then withdrew each time.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Aug 01, 2023, 10:12 AMAccording to the email I got you can start requesting tickets for the OU game in Tulsa and the whoeverthefuckitis game in NLR. However, when you click the link the Purdue game is the only thing showing up.
I called the ticket office and put in my request for BOK tix.
Quote from: Rick B. on Aug 02, 2023, 12:20 PMI called the ticket office and put in my request for BOK tix.
I just put in my request for both.
They are not easily found, but there is a link on the website. You have to go to "Post-season and Away Requests" on the ticket center menu.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Aug 02, 2023, 02:59 PMI just put in my request for both.
They are not easily found, but there is a link on the website. You have to go to "Post-season and Away Requests" on the ticket center menu.
I had some great seats last year. But the presale they put in this year killed any chance I had for good tickets this time.
Hogs aren't there this year but not sure the Maui Invitational is going to go off without a hitch. Most of front street burned to ground in Lahaina with hurricane force wind driven wildfires.. The Civic Center was being used as an evacuation center and it was evacuated.
https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1689424635174002688?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
Quote from: Spiderham on Aug 09, 2023, 09:02 PMHogs aren't there this year but not sure the Maui Invitational is going to go off without a hitch. Most of front street burned to ground in Lahaina with hurricane force wind driven wildfires.. The Civic Center was being used as an evacuation center and it was evacuated.
https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1689424635174002688?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
That is awful, was truly a beautiful place and a trip everyone should make at least once.
That's horrible. Been to Lahaina a couple of times and it was our home base for a week the last time we went to Maui. Seems like alot of asphalt and concrete for a fire to consume it all. Windy I guess.
Looking at Google Earth it looks like the town is surrounded by barren land. How does a wildfire do that when there is no forest? Was it a house fire that started and it jumped from building to building?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 10, 2023, 07:34 AMLooking at Google Earth it looks like the town is surrounded by barren land. How does a wildfire do that when there is no forest? Was it a house fire that started and it jumped from building to building?
I believe the answer is somehow climate change
The mountain behind Lahaina battled the same problem a couple years back. A good bit of it burned. When we were there last year they still had helicopters making rounds to keep it out.
If we have to do some long distance running to get to a game, we are going to win a natty.
https://twitter.com/ericpmusselman/status/1689656749198868481?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
That's fucking impressive for non-track guys.
You got to put in some speed work to break a 6-minute mile.
Quote from: BASS on Aug 10, 2023, 07:53 PMThat's fucking impressive for non-track guys.
You got to put in some speed work to break a 6-minute mile.
Agree. We have an entire team of guys that can do that.
Hopefully they can shoot a little bit.
Last I heard a mile run doesn't come up much during a BB game.
Quote from: Spiderham on Aug 10, 2023, 08:07 PMHopefully they can shoot a little bit.
if not, they won't get tired chasing down bricks.
This team will shoot it well.
My first thought was no way Mitchell ran sub 6 and then noticed he's not listed.
Baye Fall time is impressive.
Quote from: Spiderham on Aug 10, 2023, 07:39 PMIf we have to do some long distance running to get to a game, we are going to win a natty.
https://twitter.com/ericpmusselman/status/1689656749198868481?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
But how long to run up Cleveland hill like Nolan's teams?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 10, 2023, 08:51 AMThe mountain behind Lahaina battled the same problem a couple years back. A good bit of it burned. When we were there last year they still had helicopters making rounds to keep it out.
A guy I know from Maui told me that they never used to have fires because there were sugar cane plantations everywhere and the irrigation systems kept everything wet.
That's the dry side of the island, as is the Wailea area.
There have been many documented cases of arson this year in Maui, apparently.
The guy's family home in Kula up on the mountainside is gone.
Lahaina was a gorgeous old whaling town, there's very little history on that island outside of it and now it's gone. Tragedy.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Aug 13, 2023, 09:40 PMA guy I know from Maui told me that they never used to have fires because there were sugar cane plantations everywhere and the irrigation systems kept everything wet.
That's the dry side of the island, as is the Wailea area.
There have been many documented cases of arson this year in Maui, apparently.
The guy's family home in Kula up on the mountainside is gone.
Lahaina was a gorgeous old whaling town, there's very little history on that island outside of it and now it's gone. Tragedy.
Arson and something more sinister will look more likely if they move ahead with some of the things they had talked about with only that pesky little town that was destroyed standing in the way...
I see Battle's time is listed. We were told by HTL he was ineligible. I can't believe he was wrong. ::)
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Aug 14, 2023, 07:47 PMI see Battle's time is listed. We were told by HTL he was ineligible. I can't believe he was wrong. ::)
Anyone can complete 27 hours of class work in one summer if they put their mind to it.
Quote from: animal on Aug 15, 2023, 06:39 PMAnyone can complete 27 hours of class work in one summer if they and their profs put their mind to it.
Former Hog, Reggie Chaney, passed away today at age 23.
He wrapped up his career with the University of Houston but played his first two seasons at Arkansas.
Quote from: Porker on Aug 21, 2023, 06:59 PMFormer Hog, Reggie Chaney, passed away today at age 23.
He wrapped up his career with the University of Houston but played his first two seasons at Arkansas.
damn what happened
Starting to think someone is hunting former Razorbacks.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Aug 21, 2023, 07:13 PMStarting to think someone is hunting former Razorbacks.
Whoever it is even took out the guy raising our mascots.
Way too damn young....
With a gun to my head, I would have said he was pushing 30
This has gotten crazy. 23?
Wow.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1697265688677691521?t=ymG5XN351HuCU4RBtUBjsg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1697265688677691521?t=ymG5XN351HuCU4RBtUBjsg&s=19)
Duke on the Natty trophy. Nice.
Fuck Duke.
conference schedule released.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1699846069465539067/photo/1
Aside from playing Alabama on the road for which will be five out of the last seven matchups, this schedule is pretty good.
We get six SEC home games on Saturdays, compared to four each in 2020,2021, and 2022.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 07, 2023, 03:58 PMAside from playing Alabama on the road for which will be five out of the last seven matchups, this schedule is pretty good.
We get six SEC home games on Saturdays, compared to four each in 2020,2021, and 2022.
Any murderers on the Bama roster this year?
Quote from: cchog on Sep 07, 2023, 05:02 PMAny murderers on the Bama roster this year?
Give it time.
Start out by boat racing the Barners. I love it!
got a commit from a shooting wing. out of link academy, offers from louisville, lsu, marquette, ohio state, and a&m.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Shelley-46128731/
not seeing the recruiting threads.
We've had a good run recently.
https://x.com/benbrandonhoops/status/1701682471065026665
Quote from: Spiderham on Sep 12, 2023, 07:45 PMWe've had a good run recently.
https://twitter.com/benbrandonhoops/status/1701682471065026665
That can't hurt recruiting. Never would have thought Ole Miss would have just 5 tournament wins in 113 years.
Quote from: Spiderham on Sep 12, 2023, 07:45 PMWe've had a good run recently.
https://twitter.com/benbrandonhoops/status/1701682471065026665
Well if you stretched us out to 20 or 25 years like the comparison schools our win total would barely creep up. Not apples to apples.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 12, 2023, 08:33 PMWell if you stretched us out to 20 or 25 years like the comparison schools our win total would barely creep up. Not apples to apples.
By that same logic, stretch it out to 30 years and see what you get.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 13, 2023, 08:20 AMBy that same logic, stretch it out to 30 years and see what you get.
Well some of them got 118. I am just saying if you want to do recent, do recent. If you want to do midrange, do midrange. If you want to do forever, do forever. Mixing and matching is deceptive.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 13, 2023, 11:41 AMWell some of them got 118. I am just saying if you want to do recent, do recent. If you want to do midrange, do midrange. If you want to do forever, do forever. Mixing and matching is deceptive.
It's not though. They're listing how many tournament wins Muss has and then comparing the time it took for all sec programs to hit that number.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Sep 13, 2023, 02:21 PMIt's not though. They're listing how many tournament wins Muss has and then comparing the time it took for all sec programs to hit that number.
Oh it was a Musselman analysis? You don't need other schools to do that. How about this that really shows where our gap was. We didn't "hit that number," including the late Nolan era, if you add up all wins from our last championship appearance to Musselman. 7 wins in 25 years by my count during that period.
Arkansas wins during Sutton era 10 (10 years)
Arkansas wins during Nolan era 26 (15 years)
Arkansas wins while wandering in the wilderness 3 (20 years)
Arkansas wins during Musselman era 8 (3 years of tourneys)
I'm not sure how this is confusing or agitating. This is simply saying "Hey, our guy wins. This is how much he's won in the short time that he's been here. Now look at all of our conference opponents and how long it took them to get where our guy (or our program) is now.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Sep 13, 2023, 04:03 PMI'm not sure how this is confusing or agitating. This is simply saying "Hey, our guy wins. This is how much he's won in the short time that he's been here. Now look at all of our conference opponents and how long it took them to get where our guy (or our program) is now."
It's not confusing or agitating. It's just completely misleading and a horrible comparison because of the different time periods used.
"Hey, our guy wins. This is how much he's won in the short time that he's been here. Now look at all of
our conference opponents our previous 25 years and how long it took
them us to get where our guy (or our program) is now.
Are we bitching about bragging?
Basketball has been a bright spot for the last few years. I'll take whatever lies, damn lies, and statistics you can throw at me.
yeah, talk about looking for the dark lining in a silver cloud.
I didn't need a stat line to tell me that Muss wins. I just wish he would win a higher clip because the UCONN coach pwned us (now see this is how you bitch)
Quote from: animal on Sep 13, 2023, 06:00 PMI didn't need a stat line to tell me that Muss wins. I just wish he would win a higher clip because the UCONN coach pwned us (now see this is how you bitch)
Yeah he won one less than Muss in just this year alone.
Some of you would complain if you were hanged with a new rope... :D
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 13, 2023, 03:52 PMArkansas wins while wandering in the wilderness 3 (20 years)
Arkansas wins during Musselman era 8 (3 years of tourneys)
3 NCAA wins in 20 years, during the prime of my life, compared to 8 wins in the past 3 years under Muss. What a staggering comparison.
BUMP
I'm ready for another Sweet Sixteen. Maybe even a Final Four would wash away the taste of this football season.
I see Ronnie Brewer is an assistant coach now.
Did I miss the discussion about 5 star Annor Boateng that Missouri snagged?
word is he didn't think much of muss and the program.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Sep 26, 2023, 01:35 PMI see Ronnie Brewer is an assistant coach now.
Everyone can have five assistants now so they elevated Mike, Ronnie, and some other guy. Gus took a job back in California so I assume we needed to bring on someone new anyway. They have Ruta taking Argeno's spot.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 26, 2023, 01:38 PMDid I miss the discussion about 5 4 star Annor Boateng that Missouri snagged?
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 26, 2023, 01:38 PMDid I miss the discussion about 5 star Annor Boateng that Missouri snagged?
I missed that. I could see him going somewhere else, but Mizzou/
We will get him next year if he proves himself worthy in our farm system AKA missouri.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 26, 2023, 01:38 PMDid I miss the discussion about 5 star Annor Boateng that Missouri snagged?
Honestly, I don't see where he fits in the college game. plays the 4/5 in high school that past 2 years but he's 6-5 and not really a shooter or ball handler.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 27, 2023, 03:37 PMHonestly, I don't see where he fits in the college game. plays the 4/5 in high school that past 2 years but he's 6-5 and not really a shooter or ball handler.
So what you are saying is he would be our starting center under Mike Anderson and we'd be excited about it.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 27, 2023, 03:37 PMHonestly, I don't see where he fits in the college game. plays the 4/5 in high school that past 2 years but he's 6-5 and not really a shooter or ball handler.
I've saw him play and wasn't very impressed, which means he will probably be a lottery pick.
added another exhibition game. play ut-tyler on 10/20.
looks like that will be the only game not televised or streamed.
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/arkansas-sec-finalizes-mbb-schedule-and-tv-designations/
35 minutes of practice. 5 on 5 starts about the 19:00 minute mark. who is #22, no one with that number listed on the roster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=numy9h5pKP4
I think 22 is the Harris kid from Southern Miss.
Davenport got arrested for doing some dumb shit.
didn't pay a speeding ticket. i think actually arresting someone for that is equally stupid.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 30, 2023, 08:10 AMdidn't pay a speeding ticket. i think actually arresting someone for that is equally stupid.
They won't arrest shop lifters or meth cookers but by god they'll put out an APB on a Arkansas athlete in short order.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2023, 11:28 PM35 minutes of practice. 5 on 5 starts about the 19:00 minute mark. who is #22, no one with that number listed on the roster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=numy9h5pKP4
Guards look cat quick. Our defense should be nasty. Good to see Brazile taking such a leadership role.
Sticky this thread. Football season is over, and batching about a coaching change isn't doing for me.
Let hoops begin.
Red\White game is Wednesday at 6:30!
Anybody going to the Red/White game tonight? I'll provide post prognosis but expect a high degree of exaggerated expectations.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 03:11 PMexpect a high degree of exaggerated expectations.
Why, are they going up against our offensive line?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 03:11 PMAnybody going to the Red/White game tonight? I'll provide post prognosis but expect a high degree of exaggerated expectations.
A natty. I could tell from the practice video I saw on here the other day.
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 04, 2023, 03:35 PMA natty. I could tell from the practice video I saw on here the other day.
Looks like we made the same observation
Standing in line in front of Bob Holt and Otis Kirk. They look like characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 04, 2023, 05:29 PMStanding in line in front of Bob Holt and Otis Kirk. They look like characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
:D
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 04, 2023, 05:29 PMStanding in line in front of Bob Holt and Otis Kirk. They look like characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
How big was that for you?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 04, 2023, 05:29 PMStanding in line in front of Bob Holt and Otis Kirk. They look like characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
They look like your average woopigger at this point.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 04, 2023, 05:29 PMStanding in line in front of Bob Holt and Otis Kirk. They look like characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Pants?
Were they arguing over which of them Muss liked more?
You know between Holt and Grit one or both has tidy whities with a brown streak :))
Well Battle is on crutches....
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 06:28 PMWell Battle is on crutches....
Hopefully it is a knee so he can take advantage of our state of the art Knee Management Program®.
injured in an inter squad pre game warmup. incredible.
Davenport can stroke it
Battle broke that same foot two seasons ago at Temple. Wonder what the hell happened
Pinion looking improved
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 04, 2023, 06:54 PMBattle broke that same foot two seasons ago at Temple. Wonder what the hell happened
read he rolled his ankle going up for dunk in warmups.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 04, 2023, 07:04 PMread he rolled his ankle going up for dunk in warmups.
Damn they got him in a boot pretty quick. I was wrong too it was the other foot he broke two seasons ago.
We're cutting down nets
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 07:09 PMWe're cutting down nets
I refuse to buy into football hype but I'm all in on basketball. Muss has been pretty transparent about his opinions on his teams since he got here. He didn't shy away last year in saying that we were going to struggle early (before injuries). He really hasn't been too critical of this squad, which tells me we have the best team in the nation by a mile. Print the shirts already.
Dammit, y'all can't do this shit to me
Quote from: BASS on Oct 04, 2023, 07:50 PMDammit, y'all can't do this shit to me
We're going to win the Natty and be 5th in the final NET Rankings
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 04, 2023, 07:53 PMWe're going to win the Natty and be 5th in the final NET Rankings
Right behind LSU
Quote from: hit_that_line on Oct 04, 2023, 05:36 PMThey look like your average woopigger at this point.
And you look like Wally Hall.
Here ya go...
Shooting should not be a problem with this team. Pinion, Davenport, Ellis, Devo all shot the ball well from deep. In warmups, several players were constantly draining threes.
Outside of shooting, our passing was probably my biggest takeaway. There were probably 15 times a player drove into the paint and kicked or across court. Ellis is a much better passer than I thought. He had several drives that he found the open corner/wing for an open shot. We have two really good PGs in Ellis and Blocker. Blocker didn't score much but he has a good looking shot and he can flat out defend.
Pinion shot it really well and had a couple nice back door cuts for dunks. He looks healthy. He defended well but it's impossible to join defense in a Red/White game. I will say this game was fairly contested.
Mark is a clone of Devo but much better ball handler. He honestly could play poont if he had too. He's very crafty at getting to the rim. Devo was quiet the first half byt played really well in the second. The game looked very easy for him tonight.
Mitchell and Graham played well. Both hit a 3. Fall is more skilled than i thought. He hit a 3 as well. Still struggles with physical play but he has a very high ceiling.
Lawson and Harris looked better than I expected skill wise. Harris struggled a bit with the ball but made aome really good defensive plays and shot it ok. Lawson was great on the glass and made a couple nice dunks and jumpers. Neither are as physical as Kamani but both are tough and more skilled.
Putting up 88 pts in 32 mins is impressive. Especially given two of our best players didn't play.
This team is really deep and has a ton of talent. Moreso than any team Muss has had.
we won't lose another game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 09:10 PMHere ya go...
Shooting should not be a problem with this team. Pinion, Davenport, Ellis, Devo all shot the ball well from deep. In warmups, several players were constantly draining threes.
Outside of shooting, our passing was probably my biggest takeaway. There were probably 15 times a player drove into the paint and kicked or across court. Ellis is a much better passer than I thought. He had several drives that he found the open corner/wing for an open shot. We have two really good PGs in Ellis and Blocker. Blocker didn't score much but he has a good looking shot and he can flat out defend.
Pinion shot it really well and had a couple nice back door cuts for dunks. He looks healthy. He defended well but it's impossible to join defense in a Red/White game. I will say this game was fairly contested.
Mark is a clone of Devo but much better ball handler. He honestly could play poont if he had too. He's very crafty at getting to the rim. Devo was quiet the first half byt played really well in the second. The game looked very easy for him tonight.
Mitchell and Graham played well. Both hit a 3. Fall is more skilled than i thought. He hit a 3 as well. Still struggles with physical play but he has a very high ceiling.
Lawson and Harris looked better than I expected skill wise. Harris struggled a bit with the ball but made aome really good defensive plays and shot it ok. Lawson was great on the glass and made a couple nice dunks and jumpers. Neither are as physical as Kamani but both are tough and more skilled.
Putting up 88 pts in 32 mins is impressive. Especially given two of our best players didn't play.
This team is really deep and has a ton of talent. Moreso than any team Muss has had.
Thanks!
I believe.
I'm going to get kicked in the nards, but I believe.
Hopefully Pinion and Davenport can play enough defense to earn minutes because they are both elite shooters.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 04, 2023, 07:09 PMWe're cutting down nets
I'd tap the brakes on that. We haven't had our 1 or 2 crushing season-ending injuries to starters yet.
Who will be our big this year?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 05, 2023, 08:48 AMWho will be our big this year?
Muss used the wording no middle defense
I trust Muss so this isn't criticism.
I do believe you need a serviceable athletic big man.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 05, 2023, 09:03 AMI trust Muss so this isn't criticism.
I do believe you need a serviceable athletic big man.
I think the hope is that Makhi will be that guy now that he doesn't have to worry about his twin brother's lack of playing time. He has shown flashes of being exactly what we need, but hasn't done it consistently yet.
Like Lurk said, I suspect Brazile will be the defensive 5 down the stretch unless we're just getting pummeled inside.
Makes sense. I forgot about Makhi.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Oct 05, 2023, 08:31 AMI'd tap the brakes on that. We haven't had our 1 or 2 crushing season-ending injuries to starters yet.
No shit. Muss said that Battle had x-rays on his foot last night and will be evaluated by the doctors again today.
supposed to get a commit from isaiah elohim in about an hour.
top 40 player from cali who had arkansas, kansas, and nova as his final three.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 05, 2023, 10:02 AMsupposed to get a commit from isaiah elohim in about an hour.
top 40 player from cali who had arkansas, kansas, and nova as his final three.
Good company to be recruiting against. If Hunter wants to go on a rage-induced spending spree because of the football program's suckitude, I wouldn't protest if he gives Muss a raise just for the sake of it.
Basing this on very little it sounds like Graham has improved I just wonder if Brazil and Graham can be on the floor at the same time.
I kinda figure Graham will be our 6th man type guy that can play a couple spots.
Muss said they are going for an offense similar to the Bucks offense from a couple years ago that won a chip.
In any case this looks like an older group that isn't going to be still wiping asses in late February...we should click in a lot earlier this season.
I have a boner, thanks.
Any highlights?
Quote from: Gambler on Oct 05, 2023, 01:07 PMAny highlights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnS4iaUKd4
We look long, athletic and fast, which is no surprise.
I think the only real questions on Defense are whether we can defend:
1. A small, quick guard that has given us fits in the past breaking down the D and dishing to the open man. Larger guards we do pretty well, but the tiny ones have killed us
2. A real, actual big man with Beef like the UK thug (piece of shit got away with anything) or the UCONN guy.
Offense, it all comes down to shooting.
If we can shoot, they can't pack the lane and with that athletes we have, we will be able to get to the rim. Shooting will open up everything. Will just have to go out and actually do it, which for large stretches of last year we couldn't
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 05, 2023, 01:46 PMWill just have to go out and actually do it, which for large stretches of last year we couldn't
prompts this humble submission for the 2024 Hog B-ball hype song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FViY4--5nY
til we are all satisfied
We will need scorers when we come up against those crooked SEC refs on the road.
BUMP
Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2023, 07:24 PMWe will need scorers when we come up against those crooked SEC refs on the road.
I thought it was a good sign for us to shoot 14-28 from three in Barnhill. Per Muss we didn't shoot in the gym till that day.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-memphis-hardaway-quinerly-alabama-musselman-bahamas
It seems as though we are now national enough again. Of course the article suggests it's Arkansas that won't schedule them.
Oh, no!! Black and White practice uniforms? :D
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1712506664299974815?
Good to see Brazile playing 5:5. I'm fucking ready for basketball.
New bag man
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/arkansas-adds-matt-white-to-mbb-staff/
lol, that's exactly what that guy is.
Bump
When does BBall start? It's time to move on
Technically it's already started. Practice anyway.
I remember being a student i the early 90s waiting outside camping for student tickets freezing. There were more people excited about midnight madness than the football game against Auburn back in 92.
It's who we are and it feels good. All because of Muss.
I love football and wish we were nationally relevant. We are the inverse of Bama. But I'm tired of losing to them in basketball too.
I think this the year we take the next step.
First exhibition is this coming Friday. My ass will be in attendance.
Arkansas 14th in preseason AP poll. Tennessee cracks the top 10.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Oct 16, 2023, 11:34 AMArkansas 14th in preseason AP poll. Tennessee cracks the top 10.
Good. We don't need to deal with the hype of being a top ten team.
Go earn it.
https://x.com/khalifbattle24/status/1714045332412104780
I didn't doubt he coming.
Great. Another weird as fuck jump shot.
He can shoot.
Forgot that we play Duke at Bud Walton. Checked stubhub ... and I will not be attending that game.
Quote from: Hizog on Oct 16, 2023, 10:07 PMForgot that we play Duke at Bud Walton. Checked stubhub ... and I will not be attending that game.
Nearly $800 for cheap seats. Holeee cow
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 16, 2023, 09:46 PMHe can shoot.
I didn't say he can't shoot. I know nothing about him other than his jump shot is weird. Some of our best shooters have had weird hitches in their shot. It isn't a bad thing.
Out of curiosity, can he come of a screen and pull up with that shot? Or is he a spot shooter?
Shoot around shooting and game shooting is kinda different. I don't see much wrong with his "hitch" in his jump shot. Looking at his highlights he's probably the closest thing we've had to Mason Jones since he left and that's not really a great comparison but that's all I got right now.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 17, 2023, 06:29 AMI didn't say he can't shoot. I know nothing about him other than his jump shot is weird. Some of our best shooters have had weird hitches in their shot. It isn't a bad thing.
Out of curiosity, can he come of a screen and pull up with that shot? Or is he a spot shooter?
Looks like a low release point. I'd be more worried about him getting a few swatted than anything else.
Maybe they need to see if Scotty will loan them a ladder for drills.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 17, 2023, 07:43 AMLooks like a low release point. I'd be more worried about him getting a few swatted than anything else.
Maybe they need to see if Scotty will loan them a ladder for drills.
I thought Scotty shot over a broom?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 17, 2023, 07:56 AMI thought Scotty shot over a broom?
Yeah, you're right.
It was David Lee who used ladders. My bad.
He elevates well on his jump shot so I dont think the low release will be an issue. He shot 37% from 3 while making 3 a game the last year (plus). In his highlights he made some tough shots. He should get better looks this year.
I'd say he's a little more like Moody offensively than Mason Jones.
He looks like a more athletic Mason Jones. I think Animal nailed it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 16, 2023, 09:32 PMGreat. Another weird as fuck jump shot.
How's his knee management?
Quote from: animal on Oct 17, 2023, 06:37 AMShoot around shooting and game shooting is kinda different. I don't see much wrong with his "hitch" in his jump shot. Looking at his highlights he's probably the closest thing we've had to Mason Jones since he left and that's not really a great comparison but that's all I got right now.
Thanks for the video. His shot doesn't look near as wonky as it did in the other video. I'm excited to see what he can do!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 16, 2023, 09:32 PMGreat. Another weird as fuck jump shot.
Was a waterslide involved?
Here's a good SEC preview from CBS.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/sec-expert-picks-2023-24-predictions-projected-order-of-finish-overrated-and-underrated-teams-key-players/
Per CBS:
1. Tennessee. Okay, makes sense.
2. Aggie. What in the actual fuck?
3. Kentucky. I guess we're still pretending they're a powerhouse.
4. Arkansas. Only 3 Sweet 16 and 2 Elite 8 appearances in 3 years.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 17, 2023, 09:31 AMHere's a good SEC preview from CBS.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/sec-expert-picks-2023-24-predictions-projected-order-of-finish-overrated-and-underrated-teams-key-players/
Not sure who Matt Norlander is but he has us picked 8th in the SEC. Behind Georgia, Florida, and Missouri.
Nobody else has us lower than 4th.
how many starters do we return?
on paper we're picked about where we should. guaranteed muss will use this as a little motivation.
That clown picking us 8th is the only reason they have us 4th. If he had us in his top 5 we'd be #2.
Regardless, pretty good breakdown of who's returning. It's hard to argue with TN being #1. Wade Taylor will have to be all-world for Aggy to finish #2. Kentucky seems like a total wild card kinda like us last year. Lots of stud freshmen but can Cal make it work like he used to?
Hogs picked to finish 3rd by the media behind TN and the gay "cadets".
Brazile named All-SEC 1st team, Devo 2nd team.
I'd prefer us to be picked last in every preseason poll every year
I need this shirt. White textured SlobberHog Nike polo.IMG_0232.jpeg
Quote from: Spiderham on Oct 18, 2023, 07:28 PMI need this shirt. White textured SlobberHog Nike polo.IMG_0232.jpeg
Find it and I'll def get one!
it's basketball season. 'bout fucking time.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1715395320668991902?s=20
see if brazile gets any pt tonight.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 20, 2023, 04:43 PMit's basketball season. 'bout fucking time.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1715395320668991902?s=20
see if brazile gets any pt tonight.
I doubt it.
pretty sure Muss has already said Brazile won't be playing in these preseason games
I assume no tv or streaming for this?
No TV or streaming tonight.
I thought Brazile was expected back by the Purdue game.
Didn't Knee Managment, Jr hurt his knee in the exhibition against Texass last year? I don't see Muss having another year of that kind of mess.
I can't imagine we will see Brazile tonight and may not against Purdue either.
Think Muss hinted he will play some against Purdue.
Is it not even on radio? I am in NWA and driving, and all the Razorback type channels just have sports talk.
Braxile about to come in.
Ellis with 7pts in 5 mins.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 20, 2023, 06:43 PMEllis with 7pts in 5 mins.
that dude will bring a lot of excitement and a lot of wtf.
another notae.
40-10 3 mins leftvin first half
45-12 half
56-14 first tinwout
68-23 second to
Hogs squeak by 92-39
everybody played but graham (sore back).
battle high scorer with 14 in 16 minutes, all in the 2nd half. fall took one shot but led the team with 6 rebounds.
brazile played 19 minutes.
edit: battle played 2 minutes in the 1st.
Battle is more like Notae offensively. He can flat out score. Ellis didn't play much in the second half but was very good again. He's a lot more athletic than I realized. Chandler Lawson is gonna play more than you think. Kid us looooong. Brazile played a little timid but did dunk on some kid. Mark amd Devo were steady. Pinion and Davenport did what they do. Blocker, as a freshman, reminds me of Patrick Beverly. Elite defender and has Council like athleticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oShf00vbiQ
I love being good at basketball again
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 20, 2023, 09:00 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oShf00vbiQ
Damn sure are better shooters this year.
Just in those highlights, Davenport had two 3s, one of them Al Dillard range, and a move inside that looked like Jalen Graham.
Interesting. I'll keep watching him especially.
Looks like Ellis will be the team leader.
Tickets are surprisingly still available for the Purdue game this weekend.
https://twitter.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1716485927269466387?t=tDHqK-tm1SW667KJG9E2Wg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1716485927269466387?t=tDHqK-tm1SW667KJG9E2Wg&s=19)
We may very well lose this weekend's exhibition game, but I'm loving where the players' heads are at to this point. Listening to TB and Ellis after the last game, you could just hear their confidence in the system and where they fit in it. Even with all the new pieces, I think this team will do a better job playing within their roles. Having a dedicated point should lead to playing Devo off ball more, which suits his game better.
i would be pleasantly surprised if we won. all five starters back, including the player of the year, purdue is loaded plus they have already played 4 overseas games.
regardless of the score, a lot of good will come out of it.
Already taking the Moral Victory! Love it!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 24, 2023, 04:05 PMAlready taking the Moral Victory! Love it!
Or taking the correct view that the only thing that matters is March.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 24, 2023, 04:02 PMi would be pleasantly surprised if we won. all five starters back, including the player of the year, purdue is loaded plus they have already played 4 overseas games.
regardless of the score, a lot of good will come out of it.
I hope we just beat the shit out of them
Quote from: Lurk on Oct 24, 2023, 04:50 PMOr taking the correct view that the only thing that matters is March.
It was a joke, dad.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 24, 2023, 06:22 PMIt was a joke, dad.
This would be a fun thread except for you meddling kids!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 24, 2023, 06:22 PMIt was a joke, dad.
B2C3E8F8-F095-4589-B7B4-A9E23C32CA59.jpeg
Lol :beer:
Good interview with El Ellis. Late in the video Bo asks what he feels about the team this year. You can tell by his immediate reaction and response that he believes this team is really good. This kid played against some solid teams at Louisville.
His first name is really uncapitalized qith?
Mom liked e e cummings?
Fixed to avoid any confusion.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 24, 2023, 10:18 PMFixed to avoid any confusion.
Haha, I didn't start out making a joke but then I checked it after posting and figured it out, but thought, "That's funny" so I left it.
Somebody is going to have a small letter name at some point.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 24, 2023, 06:22 PMIt was a joke, dad.
Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?
masterful troll job here
https://twitter.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1716948683739238441
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Oct 24, 2023, 03:57 PMWe may very well lose this weekend's exhibition game, but I'm loving where the players' heads are at to this point. Listening to TB and Ellis after the last game, you could just hear their confidence in the system and where they fit in it. Even with all the new pieces, I think this team will do a better job playing within their roles. Having a dedicated point should lead to playing Devo off ball more, which suits his game better.
Also loved what Chandler Lawson and Tramon Mark said about how they were going to approach Zach Edey. Basically try to run, run, run and pick and roll him to death.
Love that it's going to be a sellout
https://x.com/EricPMusselman/status/1717596243491185009?s=20
What's the TV/radio situation for Purdue.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 26, 2023, 12:59 PMWhat's the TV/radio situation for Purdue.
SEC+ which I believe is ESPN+. Not sure why they don't just say ESPN+
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 26, 2023, 12:59 PMWhat's the TV/radio situation for Purdue.
I think TV is SECN+ but not sure about radio.
Quote from: Hizog on Oct 26, 2023, 01:05 PMSEC+ which I believe is ESPN+. Not sure why they don't just say ESPN+
because you don't need espn+ if you provider has the sec network.
and all of our games from here on out will be streamed or 'televised'.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 26, 2023, 01:10 PMbecause you don't need espn+ if you provider has the sec network.
and all of our games from here on out will be streamed or 'televised'.
My cable has the SEC network but I have to subscribe to ESPN+ in order to get SEC+.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 26, 2023, 01:19 PMMy cable has the SEC network but I have to subscribe to ESPN+ in order to get SEC+.
i have youtube tv and have never had to to get espn+.
might want to check with your provider because espn doesn't require it.
https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406124936468-Watching-SEC-College-Football-on-ESPN-or-SEC-Network-
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 26, 2023, 01:19 PMMy cable has the SEC network but I have to subscribe to ESPN+ in order to get SEC+.
That shouldn't be the case. If your cable provider has the SECN, then you shouldn't have to pay for ESPN+ to get SEC+.
Just go to the ESPN app and log in with your cable provider.
Scroll down until you see SEC+ and it should work.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 26, 2023, 01:10 PMbecause you don't need espn+ if you provider has the sec network.
and all of our games from here on out will be streamed or 'televised'.
Good to know. Thanks
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 26, 2023, 01:27 PMi have youtube tv and have never had to to get espn+.
might want to check with your provider because espn doesn't require it.
https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406124936468-Watching-SEC-College-Football-on-ESPN-or-SEC-Network-
Same here. Though for whatever reason it always asks me if I want to watch the ESPN+ telecast which requires a subscription, or the SECN+ telecast which doesn't.
Quote from: Hizog on Oct 26, 2023, 01:57 PMGood to know. Thanks
You just have to link to whomever your tv provider is. I looked and "my wallet" was not an option.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 25, 2023, 07:55 AMAren't jokes supposed to be funny?
I work in that awkward medium called subtle.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 26, 2023, 01:50 PMThat shouldn't be the case. If your cable provider has the SECN, then you shouldn't have to pay for ESPN+ to get SEC+.
Just go to the ESPN app and log in with your cable provider.
Scroll down until you see SEC+ and it should work.
I've also discovered that if you have an ESPN+ subscription and are logged in, sometimes the goblins that control the settings between your subscription, your cable prover log in, and things that are supposed be free get pissed off.
Usually you have to remove the app, add it, and log back in with your provider to get it working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J174Vd5HMM8
For others who are desperate for basketball, here's a preview show from Nabors and some Rivals/247 guys.
What's the parking situation for the game tomorrow? Free-for-all? first come first serve? Get in where you fit in?
That is how it was for the first exhibition.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 27, 2023, 10:57 AMThat is how it was for the first exhibition.
(https://y.yarn.co/55295260-dd57-4154-bad9-60fc3b0ba9e9_text.gif)
Someone get this man a ticket
https://x.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1718011405293727847?s=20
If we win, and start the season hot rather than our normal several month warmup, the Duke tickets will be the most expensive tickets BWA has ever seen.
It's gonna be a tough game to win. I'd like our chances better in February - March. Purdue returns all five starters and got to travel to Europe this summer. If we're good enough to win this game this early, watch the fuck out.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Oct 27, 2023, 08:13 PMIf we win, and start the season hot rather than our normal several month warmup, the Duke tickets will be the most expensive tickets BWA has ever seen.
It will be no matter what happens.
i just looked at the NCAAB futures on my board for the first time. Did Rick Schaeffer set these odds?
Kansas
+850
Duke
+1200
Connecticut
+1400
Arkansas
+1500
Michigan State
+1500
Marquette
+1500
Kentucky
+1500
Houston
+1600
Purdue
+1700
Tennessee
+2000
Arizona
+2300
Gonzaga
+2500
Creighton
+3000
North Carolina
+3100
USC
+3100
Alabama
+3100
Florida Atlantic
+3100
Miami (FL)
+3600
Texas
+4100
St. John's
+4100
Villanova
+4600
UCLA
+4600
West Virginia
+4600
Saint Mary's
+4700
Maryland
+5000
Xavier
+5100
Texas A&M
+5100
Auburn
+5100
Baylor
+5300
we got slaughtered against texass and ended up in the sweet 16. not sure how much stock to put into this game.
that dook ticket was going to be the hottest one in years as soon as that game was announced.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 28, 2023, 10:55 AMwe got slaughtered against texass and ended up in the sweet 16. not sure how much stock to put into this game.
that dook ticket was going to be the hottest one in years as soon as that game was announced.
Holy shit, it's awesome being a power player again.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 26, 2023, 01:50 PMThat shouldn't be the case. If your cable provider has the SECN, then you shouldn't have to pay for ESPN+ to get SEC+.
Just go to the ESPN app and log in with your cable provider.
Scroll down until you see SEC+ and it should work.
Thanks for this. When I tried for Kent St or whatever football game was on SEC+, it wouldn't work. So I paid $9.99 to watch the game then cancelled. I tried this time, worked fine. I wouldn't have even tried so thanks.
Duke game is on a Wednesday.
Sucks, that was worth a weekend trip up to Fayettenam.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 31, 2023, 10:34 AMThanks for this. When I tried for Kent St or whatever football game was on SEC+, it wouldn't work. So I paid $9.99 to watch the game then cancelled. I tried this time, worked fine. I wouldn't have even tried so thanks.
You're welcome!
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 31, 2023, 11:44 AMDuke game is on a Wednesday.
Sucks, that was worth a weekend trip up to Fayettenam.
Well...if you're looking for something to do with your tickets... >:D
Not us, but this random FB suggestion to me seems oddly relevant.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 31, 2023, 05:34 PMNot us, but this random FB suggestion to me seems oddly relevant.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish, or something like that.
There's a potential match up with Tigger High in the Bahamas. Lots of talk about Memphis being a sleeper.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Nov 02, 2023, 06:19 PMThere's a potential match up with Tigger High in the Bahamas. Lots of talk about Memphis being a sleeper.
Fuck Memphis STATE.
Quote from: RPL on Nov 03, 2023, 12:51 PMFuck Memphis STATE.
No no no...it's FUCK Memphis State.
New York Post has Arkansas in its Final Four pick
https://razorbackswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/05/so-much-for-east-coast-bias-new-york-post-picks-arkansas-for-final-four/
pretty cool
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1721227339634233416
We're juan day away from hoops season. Stoked.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 05, 2023, 02:05 PMpretty cool
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1721227339634233416
Damn, our basketball program is a well oiled machine.
3000 of those jerseys.
Watching Duke v Michigan St, Duke has a big guy named Filipowski who's pretty good. It'll be interesting to see how Brazile, Mitchell and Graham fare against him. It's early but so far Duke's guards don't look overly impressive. I think we may have an advantage there.
I'm enjoying this team so far. If Battle can keep looking like a rich man's JD Notae and Mark like a rich man's Jimmy Whitt I think we can go far, provided our big men hold up. Still not sold our big men can hold up against the big boys. Kansas v Kentucky coming up at 8:30 should be a good one. Interested to see what Calamari has in store this year.
Go Hogs.
Filipowski is Duke's best player. They seemed to struggle with chemistry against Arizona.
Quote from: BASS on Nov 14, 2023, 06:50 PMFilipowski is Duke's best player. They seemed to struggle with chemistry against Arizona.
You hear all the academic bullshit about Duke but they don't go to class any more than anybody else.
If we beat Duke...Katy bar the door.
Lunardi's latest bracket has us in the final four losing in a rematch to Purdue.
Thread?
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 14, 2023, 11:30 PMIf we beat Duke...Katy bar the door.
Yeah it would be a big boost to our 4 win record
Quote from: animal on Nov 26, 2023, 07:02 AMYeah it would be a big boost to our 4 win record
To be fair, we were undefeated at the time I wrote that
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0HsVfTOugh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Carry lacrosse sticks
Quote from: animal on Nov 26, 2023, 01:10 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/C0HsVfTOugh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
makes sense since their colors are blue and white.
Preemptive surrender?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 26, 2023, 02:47 PMPreemptive surrender?
It's meant to look cool when we are playing
Hey Jude...a song about coming of age, experiencing loss, and finding new love after acceptance has taken hold.
Quote from: animal on Nov 26, 2023, 02:51 PMIt's meant to look cool when we are playing Hey Jude...a song about coming of age, experiencing loss, and finding new love after acceptance has taken hold.
Maybe it's to mask the 2000 Duke fans who'll be there in attendance in white as well.
I'm coming in for the Duke game. Any chance they open that new bar in the football stadium for a few hours before the game?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 27, 2023, 01:07 PMI'm coming in for the Duke game. Any chance they open that new bar in the football stadium for a few hours before the game?
Haven't heard anything but that's NOT a bad idea!
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 27, 2023, 01:07 PMI'm coming in for the Duke game. Any chance they open that new bar in the football stadium for a few hours before the game?
Will it separate you from your money? Then the Razorback Foundation is up for it. #One$$$Razorback
https://x.com/sully7777/status/1729231038474588354?s=20
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2023, 02:35 PMhttps://x.com/sully7777/status/1729231038474588354?s=20
Can we clone him and hire him for football HC?
Oh God I am not shitting on Muss but when every team in the country is also comprised of portal guys you gotta kind of figure the shit out if you want to go on about your business of kicking ass.
So far we look soft as fuck.
Quote from: animal on Nov 27, 2023, 03:55 PMOh God I am not shitting on Muss but when every team in the country is also comprised of portal guys you gotta kind of figure the shit out if you want to go on about your business of kicking ass.
So far we look soft as fuck.
He's 8 games in with a whole new team. Our best player is coming off knee surgery and our most experienced player sucks but is a fan favorite so he's had to play him enough so he'd hang himself. Fall will be in the lineup more as the year goes on. Davenports shooting should come around.
The only thing that matters is March.
Early season panic is an Arkansas basketball fan tradition.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 27, 2023, 04:06 PMThe only thing that matters is March.
I'm a Muss fan so not bitching but these early season struggles show their face come selection time. That UNCG loss will hurt come March.
One seed, two seed, red seed, blue seed... don't matter baby the floor for the season is another boring Sweet 16 run.
How Muss won me over is I know he's working as hard as humanly possible to right the ship.
The man will drive himself to insanity to win. He's a mad scientist.
This team might not get there but I know for damned sure it isn't because of coaching effort.
The reverse of this is our football coach. And I felt Mike Anderson coasted too.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 27, 2023, 02:35 PMhttps://x.com/sully7777/status/1729231038474588354?s=20
How would sully know this from Little Rock?
Dude tweets way too much
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 27, 2023, 10:37 PMHow would sully know this from Little Rock?
Dude tweets way too much
From Muss's Press Conference
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 27, 2023, 10:37 PMHow would sully know this from Little Rock?
Dude tweets way too much
Because Muss said that in one of his daily press briefings.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 27, 2023, 10:37 PMHow would sully know this from Little Rock?
Dude tweets way too much
Bruh...
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Nov 28, 2023, 08:14 AMFrom Muss's Press Conference
Mongoose is all mad at Sully.
He's been harsh on Sam and always defends Muss.
AS IT SHOULD BE.
Camp Bud
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1729654404951769305?s=20
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 28, 2023, 01:13 PMBruh...
Mongoose is all mad at Sully.
He's been harsh on Sam and always defends Muss.
AS IT SHOULD BE.
Sully is an attention whore like the rest of the LR media posse. If Muss said it at the presser fine, but don't tweet it like you have inside information then.
Not worried about Muss and his team - dude is an X and O ninja - that rare breed always thinking of plays and what to do next.
being harsh on Sam is just being honest.
Bud is gonna be wild tomorrow night!!! Biggest non-con game in BWA history and biggest non-con game on campus since Tark and UNLV.
During the Kentucky game, they promo'd Duke v Arkansas for tomorrow night, and Jay Bilas let out a woo pig sooie!!!
Not bad for a Duke guy I guess. Taking a page from Jimmy Dykes and trying not to be a homer.
I'm calling a win tonight.
Bobby at halftime center court 9.0 Richter scale. Big Big night for Razorback fans. So let it be said, so let it be done.
Bobby and Muss on the court together. Get Nolan there and complete the Razorback bad ass triangle.
Arkansas 76
Duke 72
Is Mark playing?
Here we go!!!
Need two wins tonight. :hungry:
Is er'rybody afraid to start a Dookie thread? Or yall gonna leave it to a Basketcase When they come around?
Quote from: Guardrail on Nov 29, 2023, 06:55 PMIs er'rybody afraid to start a Dookie thread? Or yall gonna leave it to a Basketcase When they come around?
.
NC is shooting damn near 60 percent. I don't remember the last time we gave up 60 in a half. Total disaster on our part.
Hope the Hogs do the same to Dook at Bud Walton.
My son-in-law just sent me this from inside BWA. Magnificent.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2023, 08:14 PMMy son-in-law just sent me this from inside BWA. Magnificent.
Freakin' great pic!
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 29, 2023, 08:14 PMMy son-in-law just sent me this from inside BWA. Magnificent.
Thanks. I just stolet this pic
This fan frustration brought to you by Petit Jean Meats. Petit Jean Meats, smokier than the Willie Nelson tour bus.
https://x.com/BrentAtkinsFSB/status/1730317282352496916?s=20
That type of garbage has no business in college sports. I took my kid to a semi pro baseball game for his birthday this year, and they had some PA guy who ran around all game with ridiculous stunts/games for fans to do to get involved. I get doing that for farm teams but get that shit out of BWA. It's so cheesy. College sports have a great atmosphere that's organic, not forced.
If that's not what what those people do then point me to the nearest screen door.
Want to kill time during a tine out/half? Do something that makes people laugh. Create games that are nearly impossible to win. People are engaged with humor. Don't fucking ask me to spell out HOGS like I'm fucking 2 yrs old.
Or just let the dance team cut loose every time out.
Get a really fat guy in a cape to go out there and do belly slides up and down court so that the student section starts chanting "Fat guy...fat guy". That used to work.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 30, 2023, 02:14 PMThis fan frustration brought to you by Petit Jean Meats. Petit Jean Meats, smokier than the Willie Nelson tour bus.
https://x.com/BrentAtkinsFSB/status/1730317282352496916?s=20
he's not wrong.
Also, you can't even understand what they are saying so because their mics are turned up so loud and the the entire PA is overmodulated , it's really pointless.
It's a college game not the NBA - let the band play and the pom squad dance!
if I want a DJ and MC crowd fluffer bs then i'll go to an NBA game in OKC.
the crowd Wednesday was amazing form start to finish, it was like Barnhill used to be. electric!
I had no idea Bill Pullman was a Hog fan though.
Quote from: animal on Dec 02, 2023, 08:46 PMI had no idea Bill Pullman was a Hog fan though.
He's been all over the place since he and cousin Eddie beat the aliens.
I know some of you will give me shit for saying this, but it is ok, go ahead. I am sitting here watching UConn-UNC and I really enjoy this type of basketball. Not nearly so many turnovers, fouls, or players on the court. They can actually run two or three possessions each without a foul. Of course, we could never do that with Nolan, and can't do it with Muss either. We depend on having lots of fouls to give.
I get what you're saying. At tines I think we play too aggressive on defense. It often leads to our guy getting beat and forcing someone to come off their man to help, or we foul. While other teams play off their man till rhey are near the 3pt line but challenge the passing lanes to create turnovers. It keeps there huards out of foul trouble. Just about every game we have one guard sit early with 2 fouls.
We really need this win Saturday. Bud Kilmer Brazile and get him ready to go. You gotta make the boy understand!
Some of Muss's comments in the OU postgame were:
- Guys falling when trying to finish at the rim, which hurts our transition defense
- Point guards not organizing play
- Shot clock violations
- This team doesn't have the personality of any of his past teams
He said they've watched film and drilled on these things. I just wonder if maybe it's time to try something different, like scrimmaging in practice. He says all the time they never "go live."
Given those specific in-game issues, maybe this different personality bunch needs a different approach.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Dec 09, 2023, 11:40 PMSome of Muss's comments in the OU postgame were:
- Guys falling when trying to finish at the rim, which hurts our transition defense
- Point guards not organizing play
- Shot clock violations
- This team doesn't have the personality of any of his past teams
He said they've watched film and drilled on these things. I just wonder if maybe it's time to try something different, like scrimmaging in practice. He says all the time they never "go live."
Given those specific in-game issues, maybe this different personality bunch needs a different approach.
He's all but admitted earlier in the season that teams have "figured out what they were doing defensively"...I don't think that's the only thing they've figured out.
Muss seemed to be really off base with this team coming into the season. He was talking about how far ahead this team was compared to his previous teams. Also basically said Ellis wouldn't be coming off the floor much for us this season. I don't want to see Ellis playing over Blocker at all anymore.
I simply don't know how Muss could have formed that opinion. This is his weakest team athletically in his time here.
I will say this though; after the Purdue game I was a believer. I thought we had the right athleticism and mental IQ to be really good.
I know it is still early but Sometimes it just doesn't come together I guess.
Not the weakest athletically. Just dumb. We don't do anything well.
Our front court guys are soft as fuck outside of Lawson who is just undersized.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 10, 2023, 08:47 AMMuss seemed to be really off base with this team coming into the season. He was talking about how far ahead this team was compared to his previous teams. Also basically said Ellis wouldn't be coming off the floor much for us this season. I don't want to see Ellis playing over Blocker at all anymore.
I get what you are saying but I also feel like good Ellis > good Blocker. Problem is we aren't seeing good Ellis much at all. Ellis has shown he can create looks for others which we desperately need. Problem is he is a turnover machine and can't guard anyone. He's been Lykes 2.0. Blocker has steadily gotten better but still lacks playmaking ability.
We need a PG that can attack off the pick and roll the first 7 secs we cross half court. For some reason this team wastes 20 secs passing around the perimeter before trying to make a play. We don't play aggressive at all. It's frustrating.
Not good early results, but I think we're a problem in March.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Dec 10, 2023, 08:53 AMNot the weakest athletically. Just dumb.
Agree on the dumb part. I thought last years bunch was dumb but this one is older and dumber.
I kind of tuned out but didn't understand why Lawson wasn't getting more minutes. Just looked and he had 9 mins and did nothing of note in those 9 mins. Maybe he had the sniffles...he's played against bigger dudes than OU threw at him. Brazile probably shouldn't have played at all...why turn one game into 5. When you don't have those two guys being productive then it's not gonna be our night from what I can tell. 3 rebounds between them in 27 minutes of game action.
Davenport apparently can't guard a light pole but he had 18 mins and 12 points.
It's fairly easy to see that Battle's 2 of 10 shooting didn't exactly help us out...many of those shots were circus shots going to the rim so he got to the line and shot 8-8 from the charity stripe...we got to get some of these circus shots to fall though.
I bet before long Muss does what he does and plays like 6 or 7 people and fuck everyone else.
Battle has a smooth stroke from the free throw line.
I wish he would try a set shot where he square to the rim now and then, he'd make more than he does with the drives to the rim or the off balance jump shots.
Having a team modeled after NBA athleticistic style of play is great unless the same team is offset by none of the players having NBA-level smarts.
Yes, it's a real word.
Quote from: Gambler on Dec 10, 2023, 09:58 AMNot good early results, but I think we're a problem in March.
I'd rather be the solution (a #1-3 seed) than a problem (a #7-10 seed drawing a top team in the 2nd round). Doesn't look like we're going to be, though.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 10, 2023, 10:21 AMHaving a team modeled after NBA athleticistic style of play is great unless the same team is offset by none of the players having NBA-level smarts.
Yes, it's a real word.
Nut meet shell.
Oh wait...it's gotta be YOUR hammer.
Davenport has been decent on defense. Better than I expected. He's a spot up shooter though and needs to shoot off the catch. We don't have a guy to get him good looks.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 10, 2023, 11:09 AMDavenport has been decent on defense. Better than I expected. He's a spot up shooter though and needs to shoot off the catch. We don't have a guy to get him good looks.
Mitchell has shown a propensity (since we're using SAT words) as a good passer and could be the guy to get Davenport looks if we were to ever work the ball through the middle on an entry-exit play.
Except we get him the ball at the 3pt line. We need him to catch it at the elbow. That means we would have to screen off the ball which we do very little of.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 10, 2023, 10:21 AMHaving a team modeled after NBA athleticistic style of play is great unless the same team is offset by none of the players having NBA-level smarts.
Yes, it's a real word.
The NBA and college basketball are almost different sports. The shot making in the NBA is of such a higher caliber than the college game it's unreal.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 10, 2023, 12:59 PMExcept we get him the ball at the 3pt line. We need him to catch it at the elbow. That means we would have to screen off the ball which we do very little of.
Thanks for underscoring my point.
Muss is great at building a roster and social media.
He's an average coach that runs an NBA iso style offense without NBA caliber shooters.
He also runs an NBA style man defense most of the time.
We have better talent than Oklahoma and Moser coached circles around him.
We're good when multiple players are in the zone and having an NBA caliber shooting night.
He won't get us to a final four with coaching, only if we have a hot shooting team for four straight games.
Can't afford to lose any of these last three non-cons (Lipscomb, Abilene Christian and UNC-Wilmington). UNCW beat UK.
If we do, we're really going to be behind the 8-ball headed into SEC. At least at 9-4, if we break even in the league we'll be on the bubble. If we get to 20-11 before the SECT, we should be in, barring our NET just not being good enough.
Going to be sad if that UNC-Greensboro game comes back to haunt us.
Maybe I am wrong, but I just watched the video. of Muss being asked about his "point 5" rule where he apparently expects a player to decide what to do with the ball within .5 seconds of receiving it. He seemed really pissed off that some player had relayed that to the press. Anyone else get the same impression?
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 13, 2023, 10:36 PMMaybe I am wrong, but I just watched the video. of Muss being asked about his "point 5" rule where he apparently expects a player to decide what to do with the ball within .5 seconds of receiving it. He seemed really pissed off that some player had relayed that to the press. Anyone else get the same impression?
I didn't get that impression but he did reference the old SA rule. Move the fucking ball
Sounds like we actually "went live" and scrimmaged during practice this week. That was good to hear from Muss.
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 13, 2023, 10:36 PMMaybe I am wrong, but I just watched the video. of Muss being asked about his "point 5" rule where he apparently expects a player to decide what to do with the ball within .5 seconds of receiving it. He seemed really pissed off that some player had relayed that to the press. Anyone else get the same impression?
I didn't watch the video but read something about it. The way it was written made it sound like he was complimentary of Graham for understanding it that well. Maybe it was written by a sunshine pumper. Now I can't remember where I saw it.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 14, 2023, 08:03 AMSounds like we actually "went live" and scrimmaged during practice this week. That was good to hear from Muss.
You're welcome.
It didn't sound like he was mad to me.
What reason would he have to be mad about that exactly?
instead of Lipscomb why aren't we playing an in-state team in LR? seems like that would make more sense.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Dec 14, 2023, 02:48 PMinstead of Lipscomb why aren't we playing an in-state team in LR? seems like that would make more sense.
Why? It's sold out.
I've two tix for anyone looking
https://x.com/curtwilkerson_/status/1735775865290576236
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 15, 2023, 03:39 PMhttps://x.com/curtwilkerson_/status/1735775865290576236
Holy shit, this is good news.
Wait... did a good thing just happen to us? And it was from the NCAA?
I'm not leaving the house tomorrow... too dangerous.
And they finally figured out how to televise the Little Rock game.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 15, 2023, 04:30 PMWait... did a good thing just happen to us? And it was from the NCAA?
I'm not leaving the house tomorrow... too dangerous.
Don't worry he'll tear up both knees in a layup drill before the next game. :><:
Bump... two free tix to the game if anyone is interested.
Quote from: animal on Dec 15, 2023, 05:54 PMDon't worry he'll tear up both knees in a layup drill before the next game. :><:
No, no, no. The sports gods aren't that kind. They'll let us rattle off a good impressive win streak before crushing our souls with that type of thing.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 15, 2023, 05:56 PMBump... two free tix to the game if anyone is interested.
Check your messages.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Dec 15, 2023, 05:57 PMNo, no, no. The sports gods aren't that kind. They'll let us rattle off a good impressive win streak before crushing our souls with that type of thing.
Right. He'll shred a ligament on his way up for an uncontested layup with the Hogs down by 1 with two seconds left in the national championship game.
And get the shot off pnly to have it spin around the rim 18 times before harmlessly falling to the floor.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Dec 15, 2023, 07:50 PMCheck your messages.
These are gone but my wife just informed me we have two more if anyone else is interested.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 15, 2023, 08:43 PMThese are gone but my wife just informed me we have two more if anyone else is interested.
Interested. Sent you a pm. Thanks
Tix are sold. Glad you guys picked them up.
Hogs are 18-17 in last 35 games and 2-9 against ranked teams in that span. Little sawed off fucker needs to pick it up.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Dec 17, 2023, 12:37 PMHogs are 18-17 in last 35 games and 2-9 against ranked teams in that span. Little sawed off fucker needs to pick it up.
That Kansas win buying Musselman a lot of goodwill right now. If he'd lost that game last year, people would really be pissed currently.
Quote from: HughJasole on Dec 18, 2023, 01:53 PMThat Kansas win buying Musselman a lot of goodwill right now. If he'd lost that game last year, people would really be pissed currently.
I don't know that people are pissed so much as perplexed. It's obviously way too early to start questioning Muss and going down the path of anger. Shit better turn around quick though.
I feel like I say this every season but any and all teams that have huge roster turnover year to year is subject to having a turd year. We have dodged a bullet that last couple.
Like every season we have talent on the roster and it's a matter of finding out which buttons to push. For me the concern is this team just doesn't seem to have a motor guy. Someone that is going to be relied on to bring energy. Last season that was Kamani. This season we don't have that guy. I feel like our best player isn't the leader of this team and I'm really not sure who is...maybe Mark.
Quote from: animal on Dec 18, 2023, 02:16 PMI feel like I say this every season but any and all teams that have huge roster turnover year to year is subject to having a turd year. We have dodged a bullet that last couple.
Like every season we have talent on the roster and it's a matter of finding out which buttons to push. For me the concern is this team just doesn't seem to have a motor guy. Someone that is going to be relied on to bring energy. Last season that was Kamani. This season we don't have that guy. I feel like our best player isn't the leader of this team and I'm really not sure who is...maybe Mark.
I think if we had Brazile from the first ten games last year, he'd be it.
Short notice but I have three tickets to the game for free tonight if anyone wants them.
Quote from: Lurk on Dec 15, 2023, 03:40 PMHoly shit, this is good news.
Was it windy in the gym that day or is he that fast?
Quote from: egregious on Dec 21, 2023, 03:55 PMWas it windy in the gym that day or is he that fast?
He'll be the best penetrator on the team.
Quote from: egregious on Dec 21, 2023, 03:55 PMWas it windy in the gym that day or is he that fast?
I believe I've heard him described as having elite speed.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Dec 21, 2023, 04:05 PMI believe I've heard him described as having elite speed.
like 20+ MPH?
(I forget which of my schools was all up into that fad a couple of years ago.)
Quote from: Corn Pop on Dec 21, 2023, 04:05 PMI believe I've heard him described as having elite speed.
We will work on making him bigger and slower in the off season.
The big galaxy brains here said he wasn't even needed when I said his being declared ineligible was a big loss. Lol.
Quote from: egregious on Dec 21, 2023, 05:45 PMlike 20+ MPH?
(I forget which of my schools was all up into that fad a couple of years ago.)
Don't know about mph but he's so fast he can turn off the light switch and be in bed and under the covers before the room goes dark.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Dec 22, 2023, 01:35 PMThe big galaxy brains here said he wasn't even needed when I said his being declared ineligible was a big loss. Lol.
I don't recall saying that but if you say so
Quote from: animal on Dec 22, 2023, 01:48 PMI don't recall saying that but if you say so
I don't recall htl saying that, so we're all good.
Quote from: Lurk on Dec 22, 2023, 02:20 PMI don't recall htl saying that, so we're all good.
It may have been the old board so it's lost in time. I expected him to handle the point all along.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Dec 22, 2023, 03:45 PMIt may have been the old board so it's lost in time. I expected him to handle the point all along.
Unless my timing is off, the old board did not exist when the possibility of Menifield becoming an Hog first came into existence.
The first posts on the .ORG were on March 11th, 2023
Menifield opted to portal from Washington on March 28th, 2023
Menifield transferred to Arkansas on April 4th, 2023
I believe Muss said he saw the kid play the the tv and was impressed. I'm sure he left out the part where we tampered leading to the kid going portal..but maybe not. What with our integrity and all. Anyway our people got in touch with his people and he took the spot without even visiting. I recall people suggesting the kid could help the team win. I'm not sure of the chronology of all this stuff but I feel like most of us just had this thought that Muss would go get some veteran guys after baby sitting all season last year. We expected him to go get productive guards that would start and play big minutes. Menifield fit that category where he could have potentially played his way into a big role or could have been more of a role player and have a bigger role in the next season. HTL might have predicted this accurately but if he had it would have to be on this board or elsewhere on the ebays.
https://247sports.com/Player/keyon-menifield-46128031/TimelineEvents/
Looking at this timeline I'm wondering why in fuck he didn't get to play immediately this season
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 22, 2023, 06:24 PMUnless my timing is off, the old board did not exist when the possibility of Menifield becoming an Hog first came into existence.
Don't let facts get in the way of an htl chest beating.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 22, 2023, 06:49 PMDon't let facts get in the way of an htl chest beating.
Actually, quite certain it was you who said he wasn't needed.
Yeah, it was you, razorback69 moron, and Rick B. The three stooges.
I'm not saying htl and boondoggle are one and the same, but I don't think anyone has ever seen them standing next to each other...
With the number of guards we have and how Ellis looked early on you're probably right. No one expected Ellis to play this poorly. Between Ellis (prinary PG), Mark, Devo, Blocker, and Battle I expected us to get enough out of them that we could get through the year without Menifield.
I also stated that Menifield was the most intriguing addition we got. He has the highest upside. My comment wasn't a knock on KM but higher expectations for the others.
Here was my comment....
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jul 21, 2023, 01:17 PMI think Menifield is gonna be a really good player but we have a lot of depth at his position. I don't believe Chris Johnson ever recommitted anywhere. He would be a really good replacement. We were in his final list.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Dec 22, 2023, 06:53 PMActually, quite certain it was you who said he wasn't needed.
Yeah, it was you, razorback69 moron, and Rick B. The three stooges.
You are the jackass that came on here saying that Battle was ineligible. Remember that one? Or can you not keep up with what all you spew?
Just like Barton stated, no one expected Ellis to be as bad as he's been.
When do we play again?
I'll hang up and get the toaster oven ready near the bath tub.
4:00 Saturday. Unc Wilmington
They'll continue this year's trend of teams whose name begins with "UNC" beating us
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 28, 2023, 04:13 PMThey'll continue this year's trend of teams whose name begins with "UNC" beating us
this is the best of the bunch. got a win at rupp.
Quote from: animal on Dec 28, 2023, 04:09 PMWhen do we play again?
I'll hang up and get the toaster oven ready near the bath tub.
We should ask the brain trust to get us a next game banner at the top of the board.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Dec 28, 2023, 06:25 PMWe should ask the brain trust to get us a next game banner at the top of the board.
Oh good, UNCW is top 20 shooting 3s.
Quote from: Gambler on Dec 30, 2023, 02:34 PMOh good, UNCW is top 20 shooting 3s.
Maybe one of our legion of matching shirts bench guys can take notes on how they do it.
Hogs are favored by 9.5. Vegas has a lot more confidence in the Hogs than I do right now.
Quote from: Gambler on Dec 30, 2023, 02:34 PMOh good, UNCW is top 20 shooting 3s.
Perfect. It's the teams looking to have an out of nowhere game of the year from the three that give us fits.
Here we are into 2024 and we ain't even in the others receiving votes column for the AP Top25.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Jan 03, 2024, 01:06 PMHere we are into 2024 and we ain't even in the others receiving votes column for the AP Top25.
Dumb losses and wins that ended up not being that impressive.
Just keep winning and it'll work itself out.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Jan 03, 2024, 01:06 PMHere we are into 2024 and we ain't even in the others receiving votes column for the AP Top25.
If we beat Auburn convincingly on Saturday, we'll start getting some votes. Beat Georgia and Florida on the road and we'll probably be back in at like 22 or 23 in time for A&M to come to town on 1/16.
Lunardi doesn't have us in his bracket. Or the first four out. Or the next four out.
Losses to 3 seed unc, 4 seed Memphis, , 5 seed oklahoma, and that crappy one to uncg.
This page of posts is an annual hog basketball tradition.
It's our Christmas festivus
Quote from: BASS on Jan 03, 2024, 02:23 PMLunardi doesn't have us in his bracket. Or the first four out. Or the next four out.
Losses to 3 seed unc, 4 seed Memphis, , 5 seed oklahoma, and that crappy one to uncg.
Hell, we probably still trail LSU in the NET ratings.
And they've got a 4 loss Gonzaga and a 3 loss Florida Atlantic in the TOP 25. By no means am I saying we are a TOP 25 team right now...we'll have to earn it in conference play. I do find it difficult to believe that a team that beat Duke but lost to 3 highly respected teams is suddenly regarded as trash in the media. It's not like we lack a key win...we just have a bad loss that's really hurting. But Bama and others can have that retard loss and it doesn't ever seem to hurt.
Quote from: animal on Jan 03, 2024, 05:14 PMAnd they've got a 4 loss Gonzaga and a 3 loss Florida Atlantic in the TOP 25. By no means am I saying we are a TOP 25 team right now...we'll have to earn it in conference play. I do find it difficult to believe that a team that beat Duke but lost to 3 highly respected teams is suddenly regarded as trash in the media. It's not like we lack a key win...we just have a bad loss that's really hurting. But Bama and others can have that retard loss and it doesn't ever seem to hurt.
Spot on. We are not as bad as our NET. We have 1 bad loss as many others do. We beat Duke without Mark (and Menifield). We also did not have Graham in the Bahamas. Our poor ranking is from not blowing out the teams we should.
We are 9-4. Go .500 in conference and we are 18-13. With our loses, we better go 12-6.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 03, 2024, 06:01 PMSpot on. We are not as bad as our NET. We have 1 bad loss as many others do. We beat Duke without Mark (and Menifield). We also did not have Graham in the Bahamas. Our poor ranking is from not blowing out the teams we should.
Brazile was gimp against the Sooners too.
The Number 1 gripe I've heard...
Unwatchable
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Jan 03, 2024, 01:06 PMHere we are into 2024 and we ain't even in the others receiving votes column for the AP Top25.
Not only that, as of now, we are not projected to be in the NCAAT.
We can't finish any worse than 11-7 in SEC play to make the NCAAT.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Jan 04, 2024, 12:53 PMNot only that, as of now, we are not projected to be in the NCAAT.
We can't finish any worse than 11-7 in SEC play to make the NCAAT.
Only two teams have finished 10-8 in the SEC and missed the NCAA tournament since 2017. Both of those were Ole Miss teams with inferior resumes to what we would have in the same scenario.
If we get to 11-7 we're a lock. 10-8 almost certainly gets us in, albeit maybe with an opening game in Dayton on Tuesday. Anything below that and we're probably in the NIT.
I bet we go 13-5 or better.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 04, 2024, 07:58 PMI bet we go 13-5 or better.
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Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 04, 2024, 07:58 PMI bet we go 13-5 or better.
I have 12-6, but wouldn't be shocked.
Until Musselman rolls out a team that isn't playing its best basketball from February 1st through the end of March, I'm going to assume the best.
I would love to see an offensive system that didn't rely on us having hot shooters. The best college shooter is a shit NBA shooter, so maybe something besides an NBA iso offense please.
And maybe some options on defense besides man with shitty rotations. Oklahoma doesn't have what I'd call an impressive inside game and they killed us in the paint.
Quote from: BASS on Jan 05, 2024, 11:10 AMI would love to see an offensive system that didn't rely on us having hot shooters. The best college shooter is a shit NBA shooter, so maybe something besides an NBA iso offense please.
And maybe some options on defense besides man with shitty rotations. Oklahoma doesn't have what I'd call an impressive inside game and they killed us in the paint.
Agreed....I love college basketball...LOVE IT....but not a lot of solid offensive motion offenses, concepts being taught/played....all predicated on ball screens......BORING
Someone start a thread
I am betting on some downward revisions in this thread.
You know how Europe writes dates in a different order?
I must have channeled that with my brilliant prediction above.
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Jan 05, 2024, 03:44 PMAgreed....I love college basketball...LOVE IT....but not a lot of solid offensive motion offenses, concepts being taught/played....all predicated on ball screens......BORING
What did I post a few weeks ago-- something about watching a North Carolina game (against somebody, maybe Nova) that I watched and loved . Clean basketball, not a lot of hacking and fouling, actually running plays to get shooters open. It was fun to watch. We do various versions of a pick and roll, and set some screens once in a while, but never a real rhythm to our offense. Way too much like pro ball. Isolate someone and let them go one on one.
Well what now? What would you do?
I don't think there's an answer but I would try something drastic. I would cut it down to an Eddie Sutton-like 7 man rotation, 5+2, focused on those who can play defense.
Starters:
Menefield
Lawson
Brazile
Mark
Blocker
Other 2:
Graham (yeah I know this goes against my rule but you also need offense)
Battle (same)
The caveat is why these 2 come off the bench.
Yes I do believe we need to shrink down the roster and let Muss go back to coaching what he knows. Maybe this roster spiraled out of control to a point he literally doesn't know who to play to be competitive.
I'm searching for answers on the official roster and what I see is guys that were too small for their skill set at smaller gigs that were brought here to get their shit pushed in the SEC. It's that fucking bad.
F-Lawson (tell him to rebound/set screens or GTFO)
F-Brazile (play dunker position, let him drift to get some face up high post looks)
F-Denijay Harris (tell him to fucking rebound or GTFO) Guard them gettin off the bus.
G-Battle (Let this dude get minutes and see what kind of production we get over the long haul)
G-Menefield (his size/conditioning may be in question but no doubt he's the best lead guard on the team)
Subs:
G-Mark
F-Graham
G-Blocker (time to start thinking about his development)
It would be wonderful to get Davenport going, Davis get his head screwed on, Mitchell can give us better minutes but he's just not been the same this season. Simple truth is it's time to start weeding out the headcases which seems to be about half the roster and that shit can spread.
Remember when we were all happy as hell we signed all these guys? Like I have said...I never get excited until I see them play. And right now, I ain't excited.
Bench Devo. He was gone anyway.
Quote from: animal on Jan 08, 2024, 05:06 PMYes I do believe we need to shrink down the roster and let Muss go back to coaching what he knows. Maybe this roster spiraled out of control to a point he literally doesn't know who to play to be competitive.
I'm searching for answers on the official roster and what I see is guys that were too small for their skill set at smaller gigs that were brought here to get their shit pushed in the SEC. It's that fucking bad.
F-Lawson (tell him to rebound/set screens or GTFO)
F-Brazile (play dunker position, let him drift to get some face up high post looks)
F-Denijay Harris (tell him to fucking rebound or GTFO) Guard them gettin off the bus.
G-Battle (Let this dude get minutes and see what kind of production we get over the long haul)
G-Menefield (his size/conditioning may be in question but no doubt he's the best lead guard on the team)
Subs:
G-Mark
F-Graham
G-Blocker (time to start thinking about his development)
It would be wonderful to get Davenport going, Davis get his head screwed on, Mitchell can give us better minutes but he's just not been the same this season. Simple truth is it's time to start weeding out the headcases which seems to be about half the roster and that shit can spread.
Interesting we have the same 7, you added Harris for 8. Neither of us are interested in Devo or Mitchell at this point.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 08, 2024, 05:28 PMInteresting we have the same 7, you added Harris for 8. Neither of us are interested in Devo or Mitchell at this point.
I'm all for Devo if he can pull his head out of his ass. He isn't going to though and we all know that. Mitchell is kinda of the same thing. Yes we need his big body but the reality is he's just not playing all that well. Last season I think he got more into the flow being the primary big man on the roster and we RAN PLAYS FOR HIM EVEN.
I realize the talent from from last season to this season is much different in skill set and overall roster construction but Mitchell really went from a semi-productive big man to a total nothing burger this season.
We need high energy players and probably a couple guys on the court that know they aren't the "guy" and that's Harris and Lawson. Those guys have to be the dirty work players for this team and they can't do it from the bench.
Also another critical thing I'm seeing is Menefield will be shooting a ass ton of free throws and he sucks at it. Ellis is historically great free throw shooter but can't get onto or stay on the floor. A good many of these players are probably not great free throw shooters. Mark is, Ellis is, Battle isn't. Muss loves high free throw guys...just wish he bothered to scout some of these dudes.
Quote from: animal on Jan 08, 2024, 05:35 PMwe RAN PLAYS FOR HIM EVEN.
Well this could be a general answer to the whole damn problem. What we need when we're hitting dry spells, is to slow down and run a set play to the big guy who's fairly automatic, or can draw fouls.
We don't have that/we don't do that anyway/both/all of the above.
If I were a smart basketball coach, I think I could figure it out a way to do that.
Quote from: animal on Jan 08, 2024, 05:35 PMI'm all for Devo if he can pull his head out of his ass. He isn't going to though and we all know that. Mitchell is kinda of the same thing. Yes we need his big body but the reality is he's just not playing all that well. Last season I think he got more into the flow being the primary big man on the roster and we RAN PLAYS FOR HIM EVEN.
I realize the talent from from last season to this season is much different in skill set and overall roster construction but Mitchell really went from a semi-productive big man to a total nothing burger this season.
We need high energy players and probably a couple guys on the court that know they aren't the "guy" and that's Harris and Lawson. Those guys have to be the dirty work players for this team and they can't do it from the bench.
Also another critical thing I'm seeing is Menefield will be shooting a ass ton of free throws and he sucks at it. Ellis is historically great free throw shooter but can't get onto or stay on the floor. A good many of these players are probably not great free throw shooters. Mark is, Ellis is, Battle isn't. Muss loves high free throw guys...just wish he bothered to scout some of these dudes.
Battle is shooting better from the line than Ellis and Mark on way more attempts. Not sure where the idea that Battle is a bad free throw shooter came from.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 09, 2024, 06:38 AMBattle is shooting better from the line than Ellis and Mark on way more attempts. Not sure where the idea that Battle is a bad free throw shooter came from.
I think it was a Germans bombing Pearl Harbour thing. Don't stop animal when he's on a roll.
Muss was strangely upbeat and optimistic in his pregame press conference. I wonder what's up with that.
Listening to a group of people at a restaurant talk about how Devo should sit for the rest of the season because they heard he told Muss not to put him back in.
Thank Christ for Woopig.
3-15, anyone?
It's obvious that there's locker room issues. I think Muss ought to figure out who is the biggest disruption, and either boot 'em, or suspend for a month.
Still, comes back to NIL. If you kick someone off the team, how does that impact their NIL arrangement?
there was drama when lykes joined the team. there was apparently drama among the guards last season. only one guy has been there for all of that.
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 11, 2024, 02:48 PMthere was drama when lykes joined the team. there was apparently drama among the guards last season. only one guy has been there for all of that.
I swear Muss' infatuation with that one guy will be his undoing.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 11, 2024, 02:51 PMI swear Muss' infatuation with that one guy will be his undoing.
Whoops that sounds like two guys....and upon first read I actually thought vegas was referring to Muss.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 11, 2024, 02:52 PMWhoops that sounds like two guys....and upon first read I actually thought vegas was referring to Muss.
Maybe he was. Hell, this team has me more confused than normal.
didn't want to say it but yeah, i was talking about davis.
just speculation of course.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Jan 11, 2024, 02:12 PMIt's obvious that there's locker room issues. I think Muss ought to figure out who is the biggest disruption, and either boot 'em, or suspend for a month.
Still, comes back to NIL. If you kick someone off the team, how does that impact their NIL arrangement?
Yep. The strength and conditioning coach needs to go.
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 11, 2024, 02:48 PMthere was drama when lykes joined the team. there was apparently drama among the guards last season. only one guy has been there for all of that.
That dang Pinion!!
Aborgast is the culprit
I was thinking this morning how Nolan had that eight year stretch or so where we went to three final fours and two championship games. More sustained success than we've had in a long time. Most coaches don't last that long at a school these days.
Yet, really only two recruiting classes. Day, Mayberry, and Miller were one. The whole time they were here, we just added pieces to complement them. Then Thurman, Williamson, McDaniel, and Beck. I guess if you want to say three big classes that next class that added Wilson and those other guys was to was a big complement to the existing pieces.
But anyway, it just shows how different things are now. Every class every year is vitally important and every year has an entirely new cast.
I don't know how they do it.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 11, 2024, 04:30 PMI don't know how they do it.
I think the answer is now you get it right some years and you get it wrong some years.
Then there's a whole tier of small schools doing it the old fashion way who will kick your ass in a year you got it wrong.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 11, 2024, 04:44 PMI think the answer is now you get it right some years and you get it wrong some years.
Then there's a whole tier of small schools doing it the old fashion way who will kick your ass in a year you got it wrong.
That's the reason the (over the top)criticism of Muss at the first sign of struggle in his time here is stupid. It's what got us the first enjoyment of basketball in 20 years and he missed on some players this year. It's going to happen.
I do wish he'd teach them to play zone.
I think Devo is emotionally fragile and Muss
I think Devo is borderline narcissistic possibly in his ability and maybe he's come to terms with some of this. Watching him play it's like that extra gear and that chip on his shoulder just isn't there anymore. Devo for 4 years has caught a lot of the praise and just about all of the blame. He's about as polarizing a player as I've seen since maybe Darian Townes.
We want to focus on him but he's not the only player on the team that dribbles into coffin corners like they are trained to do it. He's not the only one on the team tossing lazy passes and looking disinterested. Our foot work defensively as a team is about as bad as you'll find. If after 4 years you are still picking up your dribble in weird spots on the court and everyone on the team is too busy trying to disappear at some point that's on the coach for playing your dumb ass.
I now consider this season lost. I don't think Muss is pulling a rabbit out of a hat with this group. I hope I'm wrong he's able to find the right buttons. I would say teams have "figured us out" but what's their to figure out? You don't need to do anything on defense other than make sure we can't get dribble drives because our entire offense is about rim pressure as Adam Ford describes. For me it's about winning the foul game and on paper we've got the players to do it...in reality these guys couldn't execute their way out of a wet fart.
Devo is out of his role. That's not really his fault, that's a coaching thing.
He's a Harlem Globetrotter. He's a left handed wild assed relief pitcher. He is not, in any way whatsoever, Greg Maddux, a starting pitcher with pinpoint control.
We've tried to force the square peg of an offbeat player with some circus plays and good defense, into the round hole of a normal point guard or shooting guard. He's not these things. He's a counterpoint, relief to a normal player.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 11, 2024, 05:09 PMThat's the reason the (over the top)criticism of Muss at the first sign of struggle in his time here is stupid.
I mostly agree, but is you get a few mil a year for a product whose only value is watchability, well...
Muss is in uncharted territory this year.
He's had a good run the last 8 years and has been insulated from criticism. Our press tiptoes around him postgame and you can tell, as the losses mount, he's going to blow at some point.
Much like Nolan did with the "pay me my money". Nolan wasn't used to losing and had come off a hall of fame coaching run.
Muss isn't on the hot seat as far as I'm concerned unless he does this again next year. But that kind of pressure with his personality is a pressure cooker waiting to blow.
No matter how everything ends, and if it's true he's indeed cooked (I'm not saying he is), I am grateful for the last 3 years. I do not take anything for granted as a Razorback fan.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 11, 2024, 04:30 PMI was thinking this morning how Nolan had that eight year stretch or so where we went to three final fours and two championship games. More sustained success than we've had in a long time.
Should read MOST success we've ever had in basketball. Arguably in any sport.
1964 and 1994 is what we have. I wasn't alive in 1964 so 1994 is most assuradly the pinnacle of my life as a Hog fan.
Quote from: red death on Jan 11, 2024, 07:24 PMShould read MOST success we've ever had in basketball. Arguably in any sport.
1964 and 1994 is what we have. I wasn't alive in 1964 so 1994 is most assuradly the pinnacle of my life as a Hog fan.
I'd argue what John McDonnell did with the track program, to this day, doesn't get the recognition for the dominance he produced.
His run is arguably one of the most ridiculous domination runs of any sport invented.
WTF why does the Muss bobblehead look like Mike Shannon? You Cardinals fans would recognize.
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Coach bobble head? Should have a variety with his shirt off
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 11, 2024, 04:30 PMI was thinking this morning how Nolan had that eight year stretch or so where we went to three final fours and two championship games. More sustained success than we've had in a long time. Most coaches don't last that long at a school these days.
Yet, really only two recruiting classes.
He had a third class coming in but the NCAA broke it up and came back and apologized but the damage was done. Otherwise, Nolan keeps it going.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 17, 2024, 02:14 PMWTF why does the Muss bobblehead look like Mike Shannon? You Cardinals fans would recognize.
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They got the height correct.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Jan 18, 2024, 06:35 PMHe had a third class coming in but the NCAA broke it up and came back and apologized but the damage was done. Otherwise, Nolan keeps it going.
That was the clæss with Jesse Pate. Class was ranked #1 in the country.
Nolan's last 5 seasons had more WTF shit happen against him than any coach ever. Just bad fucking luck through it all. And, he worked for an AD that had zero.zero desire to reach out and make shit right.
Nolan and McDonald are forever at the top of Mount Rushmore in terms of best coaches we have ever had.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Jan 18, 2024, 06:35 PMHe had a third class coming in but the NCAA broke it up and came back and apologized but the damage was done. Otherwise, Nolan keeps it going.
Yeah, I know. The point of the post was not to discuss Nolan's recruiting prowess, but to point out that he was able to generate eight or nine years dominance with what were in effect two classes. That can't be done today. If you recruit well enough, you have to start over every year. Hell, if you don't recruit well enough, they're probably leaving too. So, good recruiter or bad recruiter you have to do it every year.
I don't really understand how someone does it now.
College Gameday at Bud Walton Arena, Jan 27! Start the Jellycat thread early.
https://x.com/collegegameday/status/1748749822889250970?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 19, 2024, 07:40 AMThat was the clæss with Jesse Pate. Class was ranked #1 in the country.
It was way overrated.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 20, 2024, 11:18 AMIt was way overrated.
Yeah Pate and Adebayo were the JUCO studs. There was another one, Marcus Saxon, who was highly touted, but never amounted to anything. That class also had a bunch of in-state talent that went elsewhere, like Quincy Lewis, Keith Carter, Jason Smith, one of the Flanigans.
That class also had Pat Bradley and Derek Hood. It was a great class.
I think it had Nick Davis too. Rebound machine.
Saxon didn't have the grades. Kareem Pool another 6'10 kid the same.
It's tragic what they did to Pate and Adebayo. Pate was our leading scorer that year.
Quote from: red death on Jan 25, 2024, 12:10 PMThat class also had Pat Bradley and Derek Hood. It was a great class.
Plus Kareem Reid who was actually on the team in 94-95 but was part of the Bradley/Hood class because he had to redshirt on the runner up team.
Saxon went to a smaller school (Utah St?) and led them to the tourney if I remember correctly.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 25, 2024, 01:23 PMSaxon went to a smaller school (Utah St?) and led them to the tourney if I remember correctly.
That's correct. The staff had him as Becks replacement. He was a good one.
Good memory. I'm impressed.
Nolan always said we would have won two in a row if Reid had been eligible in 95.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 25, 2024, 04:35 PMNolan always said we would have won two in a row if Reid had been eligible in 95.
should have started Elmer vs. UCLA.
Amazing to make it to the championship back to back years, that team doesn't get the props it should.
we could NOT make a shot against the bruins. it was maddening.
And again Mizzou screws us by letting UCLA drive the length of the court for the buzzer beater.
Should have never made it out of the first weekend.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Jan 25, 2024, 06:46 PMAnd again Mizzou screws us by letting UCLA drive the length of the court for the buzzer beater.
Should have never made it out of the first weekend.
I thought that was OSU?
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jan 25, 2024, 08:03 PMI thought that was OSU?
They defeated Florida International, Missouri, Mississippi State, and UConn to advance to the Final Four.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 25, 2024, 08:07 PMThey defeated Florida International, Missouri, Mississippi State, and UConn to advance to the Final Four.
I was thinking OSU let them drive at the end of the final four game as well.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jan 25, 2024, 08:09 PMI was thinking OSU let them drive at the end of the final four game as well.
They beat OSU 74-61
Definitely Missouri. Had it won.
https://youtu.be/NS8QCoYfzW8?si=yMXMZrYq9l6I7ZE9
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jan 25, 2024, 08:09 PMI was thinking OSU let them drive at the end of the final four game as well.
Tyus Edney's drive to the basket was against Mizzou who had Jevon Crudup as their star at the time. Edit: Actually apparently he graded out in 94 so not sure who was on the Missouri team..might have been the older Rush by then. Edit 2: Nope it was Paul O'Liney and Derek Grimm ( barely remember him) and a bunch of nobodies
OSU had Big Country Bryant Reeves I believe and not sure who the turded out to.
I remember O'Liney was good. Seems like he played pretty well against us in Columbia that season.
Quote from: animal on Jan 25, 2024, 08:20 PMTyus Edney's drive to the basket was against Mizzou who had Jevon Crudup as their star at the time. Edit: Actually apparently he graded out in 94 so not sure who was on the Missouri team..might have been the older Rush by then. Edit 2: Nope it was Paul O'Liney and Derek Grimm ( barely remember him) and a bunch of nobodies
OSU had Big Country Bryant Reeves I believe and not sure who the turded out to.
I think Crudup was the original Super Senior, seemed like he played 7-8 years for them.
Quote from: red death on Jan 25, 2024, 12:10 PMThat class also had Pat Bradley and Derek Hood. It was a great class.
I think it had Nick Davis too. Rebound machine.
Saxon didn't have the grades. Kareem Pool another 6'10 kid the same.
It's tragic what they did to Pate and Adebayo. Pate was our leading scorer that year.
Ali Thompson would have been really good.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 25, 2024, 09:11 PMI think Crudup was the original Super Senior, seemed like he played 7-8 years for them.
I'll take your Crudup and raise you a Craig Upchurch.
Quote from: pigtacular on Jan 25, 2024, 11:04 PMAli Thompson would have been really good.
What? He played three seasons for us and he wasn't very good. Also Nicky Davis wasn't in the Hood, Bradley, Pate class.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 26, 2024, 09:07 AMWhat? He played three seasons for us and he wasn't very good. Also Nicky Davis wasn't in the Hood, Bradley, Pate class.
Woopig slowly getting older and older and the memories fade.
Hopefully he wasn't thinking Glendon Alexander because fuck that guy.
Nicky Davis I want to say was a JUCO guy that played very little while he was there with Hood. After Hood...Davis played a lot and racked up a lot of rebounds and ended up getting a shot in the NBA/pro leagues.
Today's Graham is built similar but doesn't have the rebound motor.
Everyone needs to remember that Nolan didn't typically recruit a star player. He recruited guys who fit his system.
Collectively they are good. Individually they were okay. Take away half a class because of a lie and you get what you get.
Frank and the NCAA destroyed what Nolan had built. It's that simple.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Jan 25, 2024, 06:46 PMAnd again Mizzou screws us by letting UCLA drive the length of the court for the buzzer beater.
Should have never made it out of the first weekend.
Yeah, but the same could have been said for us that first weekend. We barely beat Texas Southern in the first round and then should have lost to Syracuse if not for them pulling a Chris Webber and calling a timeout they didn't have at the end of the game with the lead.
Quote from: animal on Jan 25, 2024, 08:20 PMOSU had Big Country Bryant Reeves I believe and not sure who the turded out to.
That big turd shattered a backboard in the kingdome during final 4 practice. The new rim was tight, which is why we couldn't hit shit. Can't change my mind.
Quote from: animal on Jan 26, 2024, 09:24 AMWoopig slowly getting older and older and the memories fade.
Hopefully he wasn't thinking Glendon Alexander because fuck that guy.
Nicky Davis I want to say was a JUCO guy that played very little while he was there with Hood. After Hood...Davis played a lot and racked up a lot of rebounds and ended up getting a shot in the NBA/pro leagues.
Today's Graham is built similar but doesn't have the rebound motor.
Davis was in that '95 class, he was a late JUCO add when the other JUCOs Nolan recruited didn't make it due to grades.
I think the final '95 class ended up being:
Derek Hood, McDonald's All-American
Pat Bradley
Kareem Reid (redshirt holdover)
Jesse Pate
Sunday Adebayo
Nick Davis
Ali Thompson
Marlon Towns
Antwon Hall
Crazy he brought in 9 guys but he had to after everyone that graduated and left early after the '95 title game. Towns and Hall both bolted after the season. Thompson was a head case but stuck it out for three years and eventually Nolan booted him. Davis only had three years of eligibility so he was done after '98. Adebayo came back after the NCAA fucking after a year at Memphis.
Quote from: animal on Jan 26, 2024, 09:24 AMWoopig slowly getting older and older and the memories fade.
Hopefully he wasn't thinking Glendon Alexander because fuck that guy.
Nicky Davis I want to say was a JUCO guy that played very little while he was there with Hood. After Hood...Davis played a lot and racked up a lot of rebounds and ended up getting a shot in the NBA/pro leagues.
Today's Graham is built similar but doesn't have the rebound motor.
Ali Thompson played his freshman year only... In fact, he may not have finished his freshman year.
Quote from: pigtacular on Jan 26, 2024, 02:47 PMAli Thompson played his freshman year only... In fact, he may not have finished his freshman year.
Why are you arguing this point with me exactly?
but based on this sports fact thingy...he played 82 games which is roughly 3 seasons
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ali-thompson-1.html
Quote from: animal on Jan 26, 2024, 03:15 PMWhy are you arguing this point with me exactly?
but based on this sports fact thingy...he played 82 games which is roughly 3 seasons
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ali-thompson-1.html
Well, I wasn't arguing with you per se.
That is bizarre. I remember him playing his freshman year and then he basically left the team or got kicked off the team.
Old indeed. I went to every game and still didn't remember correctly.
We did win a basketball national championship, right?
All I remember from the '95 title game was the Hog's having to wear the travel red jerseys and F'n Toby Bailey's reverse dunk towards the end. Otherwise the night is a shit stained blur.
Quote from: obijuana on Jan 26, 2024, 04:02 PMAll I remember from the '95 title game was the Hog's having to wear the travel red jerseys and F'n Toby Bailey's reverse dunk towards the end. Otherwise the night is a shit stained blur.
Toby fucking Bailey. We beat Rasheed and Stackhouse in the Final Four, but even w/ Edney out we couldn't handle UCLA and that damn freshman. I don't think he ever accomplished much after that besides hanging out w/ Snoop Dogg.
Quote from: pigtacular on Jan 26, 2024, 03:42 PMWell, I wasn't arguing with you per se.
That is bizarre. I remember him playing his freshman year and then he basically left the team or got kicked off the team.
Old indeed. I went to every game and still didn't remember correctly.
We did win a basketball national championship, right?
Ali played three seasons here and he has been arrested approximately 50 times in the last 25 years. He also has about 20 kids running around the Fayetteville area. He was a lot better at crime and having unprotected sex than he was basketball.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 26, 2024, 04:26 PMToby fucking Bailey. We beat Rasheed and Stackhouse in the Final Four, but even w/ Edney out we couldn't handle UCLA and that damn freshman. I don't think he ever accomplished much after that besides hanging out w/ Snoop Dogg.
In sure some will argue with me and I'm old and probably have it wrong, but my memory says Nolan was out coached. They put their big man on Corliss instead of Stewart and it threw everything off.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 26, 2024, 06:30 PMIn sure some will argue with me and I'm old and probably have it wrong, but my memory says Nolan was out coached. They put their big man on Corliss instead of Stewart and it threw everything off.
Corliss had a bad back as I recall, plus he had George Zidek riding on that bad back the entire game.
Quote from: animal on Jan 26, 2024, 06:35 PMCorliss had a bad back as I recall, plus he had George Zidek riding on that bad back the entire game.
Yep. The Leviathan, Big George Zidek mugged and manhandled Corliss all night long. Toby F'n Bailey had the game of his life and the man who ultimately pushed Nick Saban into retirement, Ed "Mr. NIL" O'Bannon ate our ass as well.
Just like the UCon/Baylor Women's championship game, I'll go to my grave believing the refs either had money on the game or it was just racism.
The way the allowed UCon to hack and foul Griner in that final is probably the only game like that I have seen such an obvious bias other than the way they allowed Zidek to manhandle Corliss all night.
It was either a financial bias or racial because they clearly did not call it as they saw it. It was that blatant.
Since we are reminiscing about long forgotten, weirdo players in basketball history. What about Chris Jefferies in 98? I thought that guy was amazing and then he left for Fresno State. Who could also forget the white boy experiment/connection with Jason William and that Hankins kid. What a weird fucking year
Quote from: razor5396 on Jan 26, 2024, 09:35 PMSince we are reminiscing about long forgotten, weirdo players in basketball history. What about Chris Jefferies in 98? I thought that guy was amazing and then he left for Fresno State. Who could also forget the white boy experiment/connection with Jason William and that Hankins kid. What a weird fucking year
Bringing in Williams and Hankins was just a big fuck you by Nolan to people like Wally Hall who constantly bitched and moaned about Nolan not recruiting in state (white) kids. That was also the beginning of the end for Nolan at Arkansas.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 27, 2024, 05:57 AMBringing in Williams and Hankins was just a big fuck you by Nolan to people like Wally Hall who constantly bitched and moaned about Nolan not recruiting in state (white) kids. That was also the beginning of the end for Nolan at Arkansas.
Good article on this topic. Not sure how accurate but does refresh the memory a little.
https://arktimes.com/rock-candy/2007/03/01/rebuttal-nolan-richardson-has-selective-memory
Quote from: animal on Jan 26, 2024, 06:35 PMCorliss had a bad back as I recall, plus he had George Zidek riding on that bad back the entire game.
Clint McDaniel was playing with a broken rib that night as well.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 27, 2024, 09:16 AMGood article on this topic. Not sure how accurate but does refresh the memory a little.
https://arktimes.com/rock-candy/2007/03/01/rebuttal-nolan-richardson-has-selective-memory
That is a good article. I didn't remember all that.
Nolan just isn't very smart. He quit after winning the championship and fell back on racism when he got called on his poor results.
If you went to games during that time period you would have noticed how weird it was that the crowd would erupt when the great white hope from Hairless Dick, Arkansas, Jason Jennings would enter the game. It's the same way with Pinion, so much of the fanbase begs for him to get minutes even though he fucking sucks. Nolan might have exaggerated the racial element but it definitely exists.
RE: Nolan's fall and the media being critical of him those last few years
This was on the heels of the game literally changing rules because of his and Tark's style of play being so successful. They took down Tark and either believed Nolan to be dirty or were using it as a reason to get Nolan and his black boys street ball. I don't know it could go either way really. It's not a huge stretch to see that the NCAA was corrupt as fuck and there were plenty of people from both inside and outside of the sport that were happy to see Nolan take a hit professionally.
Arising out of that perhaps for him was some attempt to play a bit more straight laced by recruiting more "basketball players" e.g. white guys. Nobody said shit about Warren Linn or Pat Bradley. Some of those guys played some pretty big minutes and then all the sudden it was that Nolan doesn't recruit in-state kids (white guys). It was a stupid take then and now. The simple case is Nolan missed on some dudes and that shit happens. Jason Gilbert was a damn good 3 point shooter but wasn't a SEC talent. Justin Hankins was a heck of a AGFC officer but not a SEC player. Jason Jennings made a good UPS driver from what I hear. My memory isn't what it used to be but I recall at least for a couple of those guys they were regarded as decent talents...maybe 3 star guys. We've done worse at the time. Some would say Nolan intentionally missed...others would point to his last class was going to have Andre Igadala and some other studs and that all fell apart when Nolan was fired.
It's important to note that something around that time changed in terms of academics and that hurt our recruiting in the Memphis/Mississippi Delta area for sure. I think it was prop 48 went away and that was a tool that Nolan loved to use. We weren't able to take nearly as many grade risks. They basically fucked Nolan on how he wanted to play defense and how he wanted to recruit players to the program all of which was working fairly well for both our program and the kids. They also fucked the program with that "lack of Institutional control" bullshit. In the years since then I highly doubt we've seen some kind of massive uptick in graduations despite having to adhere to APR and all that stuff.
Also by the late 90s and very early into the 2000s AAU ball had taken hold and if you didn't suck the right dicks you didn't get the talent. Nolan wasn't much on sucking dicks.
If you look at the demographics of where Nolan liked to land players out of today and I think you'll find many depleted dilapidated towns and cities. Nobody can live off talent from Pine Bluff that's for sure. I imagine the same is probably true for a lot of those places around the Dallas area he liked to recruit from.
Quote from: animal on Jan 27, 2024, 01:04 PMRE: Nolan's fall and the media being critical of him those last few years
This was on the heels of the game literally changing rules because of his and Tark's style of play being so successful. They took down Tark and either believed Nolan to be dirty or were using it as a reason to get Nolan and his black boys street ball. I don't know it could go either way really. It's not a huge stretch to see that the NCAA was corrupt as fuck and there were plenty of people from both inside and outside of the sport that were happy to see Nolan take a hit professionally.
Arising out of that perhaps for him was some attempt to play a bit more straight laced by recruiting more "basketball players" e.g. white guys. Nobody said shit about Warren Linn or Pat Bradley. Some of those guys played some pretty big minutes and then all the sudden it was that Nolan doesn't recruit in-state kids (white guys). It was a stupid take then and now. The simple case is Nolan missed on some dudes and that shit happens. Jason Gilbert was a damn good 3 point shooter but wasn't a SEC talent. Justin Hankins was a heck of a AGFC officer but not a SEC player. Jason Jennings made a good UPS driver from what I hear. My memory isn't what it used to be but I recall at least for a couple of those guys they were regarded as decent talents...maybe 3 star guys. We've done worse at the time. Some would say Nolan intentionally missed...others would point to his last class was going to have Andre Igadala and some other studs and that all fell apart when Nolan was fired.
It's important to note that something around that time changed in terms of academics and that hurt our recruiting in the Memphis/Mississippi Delta area for sure. I think it was prop 48 went away and that was a tool that Nolan loved to use. We weren't able to take nearly as many grade risks. They basically fucked Nolan on how he wanted to play defense and how he wanted to recruit players to the program all of which was working fairly well for both our program and the kids. They also fucked the program with that "lack of Institutional control" bullshit. In the years since then I highly doubt we've seen some kind of massive uptick in graduations despite having to adhere to APR and all that stuff.
Also by the late 90s and very early into the 2000s AAU ball had taken hold and if you didn't suck the right dicks you didn't get the talent. Nolan wasn't much on sucking dicks.
If you look at the demographics of where Nolan liked to land players out of today and I think you'll find many depleted dilapidated towns and cities. Nobody can live off talent from Pine Bluff that's for sure. I imagine the same is probably true for a lot of those places around the Dallas area he liked to recruit from.
It seemed like the NCAA in the mid to late 90s was always nut punching us over some stupid shit whether it be basketball or football. Felt like they had a vendetta against us and was so confident that there was no way we were a clean program.
Quote from: razor5396 on Jan 27, 2024, 01:19 PMIt seemed like the NCAA in the mid to late 90s was always nut punching us over some stupid shit whether it be basketball or football. Felt like they had a vendetta against us and was so confident that there was no way we were a clean program.
They messed up on the Sunday Adebayo situation so bad they had to eventually admit they fucked us and let him transfer back here.
Who was our white boy that slammed on Marmaduke Handjob?
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 27, 2024, 02:29 PMWho was our white boy that slammed on Marmaduke Handjob?
Guy Whitney
Quote from: razor5396 on Jan 27, 2024, 01:19 PMIt seemed like the NCAA in the mid to late 90s was always nut punching us over some stupid shit whether it be basketball or football. Felt like they had a vendetta against us and was so confident that there was no way we were a clean program.
We were doing some shady shit. Frank hired the law firm of former NCAA investigators who effectively buried it.
I don't think Nolan was directly responsible for it, but he was wrong to accuse Frank of making it worse with the NCAA when he did exactly the opposite.
Looks like devo has had enough. Taking another leave.
Quote from: aaron on Jan 27, 2024, 07:43 PMLooks like devo has had enough. Taking another leave.
Well, bye.
Quote from: TC on Jan 27, 2024, 08:11 PMWell, bye.
yep.
has had enough of what exactly? obviously not of walking out out on his team.
Preparing to duck for cover, but today heard there's a lovers quarrel on the team originating from the Bahamas trip.
Sorry, you were scooped. The ghey rumor has already been reported above.
The pink finger nails were the first clue :sarcasm:
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 27, 2024, 08:43 PMPreparing to duck for cover, but today heard there's a lovers quarrel on the team originating from the Bahamas trip.
:popcorn:
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 27, 2024, 08:53 PMSorry, you were scooped. The ghey rumor has already been reported above.
Didn't see. I think we can guess one...wouldn't have suspected the other I heard.
Who is the other one you heard? Has to be Brazille right?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 27, 2024, 09:06 PMWho is the other one you heard? Has to be Brazille right?
No. He's really bad at free throw shooting though.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 06, 2024, 08:38 PMDevo, Brazile, Mahki, and Graham are such head cases you don't know what you're getting minute to minute. They are more worried about their hair and nails than playing fucking basketball.
Tried to tell y'all a while back w/out just saying it.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 27, 2024, 09:07 PMNo. He's really bad at free throw shooting though.
Cade didn't give off a Devo vibe. He is from California though. Still, I has the shocked.
I mean... it's okay. It happens.
Quote from: MashedPotatoes on Jan 27, 2024, 09:27 PMI mean... it's okay. It happens.
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So, Cade and Devo were/are gay lovers?
Who the hell is Cade? Not him.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 27, 2024, 09:40 PMWho the hell is Cade? Not him.
You wrote he was really bad at freethrows. Cade is shooting 0.0% on the season. That's pretty bad.
Quote from: MashedPotatoes on Jan 27, 2024, 09:27 PMI mean... it's okay. It happens.
Like what, you accidentally trip and land with a cock in your mouth?
The only thing that matters i that they are not detectable for their HIV.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 27, 2024, 09:12 PMTried to tell y'all a while back w/out just saying it.
So a gay lovers quarrel is what ran our season off the rails?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 27, 2024, 11:03 PMSo a gay lovers quarrel is what ran our season off the rails?
Of course, I have no inside knowledge, but it sure sounds like it. Damn sure something.
It's Devo and Brazil. This rumor has been going around Fayetteville for awhile and has gained steam the last few days.
So this team does fight for position after all.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Jan 27, 2024, 11:59 PMSo this team does fight for position after all.
You'd think we'd be much better on D. Also explains all the rim shots.
Quote from: Spiderham on Dec 22, 2023, 01:11 PMIs it just me or does Devo give off a strong Revenge of the Nerds Lamar vibe?
NTTAWWT.
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I was on this back before Christmas. A guy from Hendrix can spot these kinds of things. :D
Graham.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Jan 27, 2024, 11:59 PMSo this team does fight for position after all.
They all play like bottoms.
Wasn't there gay slurs being tossed around last season and Black and others ended up getting pissed off at fans in the stands I believe at Missouri where they might would know certain things about gay stuff.
I've noticed all season, when they feel a little pressure, they lay down.
Is it any surprise that HTL is claiming to have the "inside" scoop on the gay stuff...
I thought it was odd when they said pitchers and catchers report in October.
2024 Razorback Basketball
"Sucking on D"
When they said Devo was a black hole I thought they meant with the basketball on offense
Quote from: animal on Jan 28, 2024, 07:16 AMWasn't there gay slurs being tossed around last season and Black and others ended up getting pissed off at fans in the stands I believe at Missouri where they might would know certain things about gay stuff.
Just how long have we had a basketball team full of "queens"?
HTF does Musselman manage to find so many? I would think one every once and a while would be normal. How do you possibly end up with more than one on the same team? Does he actively pursue gay basketball players? Having a team full of the gay is a hell of a way to represent the university and the people of Arkansas. If all this turns out to be true, it will make us the laughing stock of college basketball, nevermind what it will do for our recruiting. No bueno at all.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 28, 2024, 09:17 AMJust how long have we had a basketball team full of "queens"?
HTF does Musselman manage to find so many? I would think one every once and a while would be normal. How do you possibly end up with more than one on the same team? Does he actively pursue gay basketball players? Having a team full of the gay is a hell of a way to represent the university and the people of Arkansas. If all this turns out to be true, it will make us the laughing stock of college basketball, nevermind what it will do for our recruiting. No bueno at all.
A good many white bitches from Cabot were trying to get on Devo's dick back in the day from what I hear. I've also heard stories that he was a perfect gentlemen so you know what that means.
A good many white bitches from Cabot were trying to get on Devo's dick back in the day from what I hear. I've also heard stories that he was a perfect gentlemen so you know what that means.
Hey he was part of 3 Sweet 16s for us so he can be as homo as he wants to be. I don't give a fuck about all that.
I highly doubt Muss goes around finding guys that want to be homo with each other on purpose and I also figure Muss doesn't really care about gays on his team though.
Hey it's a message board and we can speculate, but we should probably be mindful of these kids feelings and shit.
Quote from: animal on Jan 28, 2024, 09:43 AMA good many white bitches from Cabot were trying to get on Devo's dick back in the day from what I hear. I've also heard stories that he was a perfect gentlemen so you know what that means.
Hey he was part of 3 Sweet 16s for us so he can be as homo as he wants to be. I don't give a fuck about all that.
I highly doubt Muss goes around finding guys that want to be homo with each other on purpose and I also figure Muss doesn't really care about gays on his team though.
Hey it's a message board and we can speculate, but we should probably be mindful of these kids feelings and shit.
I'll add, if true, it has to be extremely difficult to be an 18-21 yr old D1 basketball player and navigate through that. If we can speculate from a far, I'm sure teammates and opposing players have as well.
I've always leaned on the good Devo side. He's brought far more memorable moments to this program than forgettable one's. I van think of 3 tourney games we likely don't win without him.
There's obviously been some behind the scenes issues with this team which makes this even more believable
Quote from: animal on Jan 28, 2024, 09:43 AMHey it's a message board and we can speculate, but we should probably be mindful of these kids feelings and shit.
Take that bullshit back to the nob.
Gotta appreciate Cal's comments after the game.
Quote from: animal on Jan 28, 2024, 09:43 AMA good many white bitches from Cabot were trying to get on Devo's dick back in the day from what I hear. I've also heard stories that he was a perfect gentlemen so you know what that means.
Hey he was part of 3 Sweet 16s for us so he can be as homo as he wants to be. I don't give a fuck about all that.
I highly doubt Muss goes around finding guys that want to be homo with each other on purpose and I also figure Muss doesn't really care about gays on his team though.
Hey it's a message board and we can speculate, but we should probably be mindful of these kids feelings and shit.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 28, 2024, 10:35 AMTake that bullshit back to the nob.
Oh boy, we got us a real bad ass here boys.
Animal is right, and given this info I've probably been too hard on Devo for his emotional spells. If this stuff is true, than he's certainly suffering through some mental issues and the last thing he needs is a dogpile from his own fan base.
I wish the kid luck and hope he gets his head right.
Honestly, by and large male fans don't care about the personal lives of the players on their favorite teams. Just a reality. Chicks do more, that's why Olympics coverage looks the way it does.
I don't care whether any players on our team have a conflict because they were romantically involved with each other. All I care about is whether it affects the team. Just as many teams have been affected over the years by dudes fighting over the same woman, or just fighting because they don't like each other. I don't care why you're fighting, if it affects the team, as a fan it's bullshit.
I don't care whether you were raised in the hood and poverty and that makes you hungry. I don't care whether you were raised rich so that makes you hungry to prove something on your own. I don't care about anything, AS A FAN, except your contribution to the team.
All I want is players who contribute to the good of the team. If you can do that by sucking each other's dicks every night, or fucking some different girls every night, or whacking off by yourself at night, or none of the above, I don't care about any of that. Al Davis, "just win baby."
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 28, 2024, 12:26 PMHonestly, by and large male fans don't care about the personal lives of the players on their favorite teams. Just a reality. Chicks do more, that's why Olympics coverage looks the way it does.
I don't care whether any players on our team have a conflict because they were romantically involved with each other. All I care about is whether it affects the team. Just as many teams have been affected over the years by dudes fighting over the same woman, or just fighting because they don't like each other. I don't care why you're fighting, if it affects the team, as a fan it's bullshit.
I don't care whether you were raised in the hood and poverty and that makes you hungry. I don't care whether you were raised rich so that makes you hungry to prove something on your own. I don't care about anything, AS A FAN, except your contribution to the team.
All I want is players who contribute to the good of the team. If you can do that by sucking each other's dicks every night, or fucking some different girls every night, or whacking off by yourself at night, or none of the above, I don't care about any of that. Al Davis, "just win baby."
Good post. Agree 100% with you and Animal here. I don't know if it's the gay stuff but there's definitely a lot going on behind the scenes with this team. If anyone had told me that the basketball season would go even worse than the football season back in November I would have laughed in their face.
I knew the Razorback Sports curse would do something to screw up BB, but I didn't have this one on my bingo card.
The way they are playing, it makes sense.
I'm just ready to put the Devo era behind us.
I don't give a fuck about Devo at all. He exists purely for my entertainment as a Razorback fan.
I don't give a fuck about any athlete, actor, coach, politician.
If they can perform to make me happy then good. If they don't, Devo certainly didn't this year none of them have, they can ALL go fuck themselves.
This is not my real life. Strictly for MY entertainment. When it's not entertaining me anymore I don't care if they exist or not, nor do I care about any of their feelings.
I care about my family and the people I love not some random asshole that sucks.
All I ask is Devo feels the same about me and every else too. That's fair.
Seriously it's weird when I see people on Twitter stanning for these entitled now overpaid athletes. Get a fucking life you don't even know them.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 28, 2024, 03:16 PMI knew the Razorback Sports curse would do something to screw up BB, but I didn't have this one on my bingo card.
What do have on your bingo card for baseball season?
Quote from: Piggielicious on Jan 28, 2024, 04:42 PMWhat do have on your bingo card for baseball season?
We haven't had a good old fashion gambling/point shaving issue yet. So that's still on the table.
Two of our starting pitchers have to get Tommy John surgery and two of our best hitters/fielders break ankles sliding in to second. That will be a bingo, diagonally with the free space.
Quote from: red death on Jan 28, 2024, 04:40 PMI don't give a fuck about Devo at all. He exists purely for my entertainment as a Razorback fan.
I don't give a fuck about any athlete, actor, coach, politician.
If they can perform to make me happy then good. If they don't, Devo certainly didn't this year none of them have, they can ALL go fuck themselves.
This is not my real life. Strictly for MY entertainment. When it's not entertaining me anymore I don't care if they exist or not, nor do I care about any of their feelings.
I care about my family and the people I love not some random asshole that sucks.
All I ask is Devo feels the same about me and every else too. That's fair.
Seriously it's weird when I see people on Twitter stanning for these entitled now overpaid athletes. Get a fucking life you don't even know them.
Lot of words to just say "fuck your feels, play ball"
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 28, 2024, 04:52 PMTwo of our starting pitchers have to get Tommy John surgery and two of our best hitters/fielders break ankles sliding in to second. That will be a bingo, diagonally with the free space.
Now you've done it.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Jan 28, 2024, 04:42 PMWhat do have on your bingo card for baseball season?
I'm not sure about baseball. The foul ball mixup will never be topped but I'm expecting a trans on the softball team.
Shallow 2-out fly ball to secure the CWS trophy, shortstop looks up, and gets his eye shitted in by a pigeon. Runner scores from 3rd.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 28, 2024, 06:17 PMI'm expecting a trans on the softball team.
As big as the girls are on the softball team, how would we tell?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 28, 2024, 07:31 PMAs big as the girls are on the softball team, how would we tell?
Easy now, you're gonna conjure up Rick B and we'll all get verbal lashings with our fandom questioned.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 28, 2024, 07:31 PMAs big as the girls are on the softball team, how would we tell?
There's the Crocodile Dundee method.
Quote from: Gambler on Jan 29, 2024, 12:54 PMThere's the Crocodile Dundee method.
?? I haven't seen that one in a long time.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 29, 2024, 12:56 PM?? I haven't seen that one in a long time.
Grab them by the crotch
When you're a star they let you.
I don't give a shit who the team is fucking or sucking or whatever. I just don't care as long as they play ball and leave the other shit out of it when playing. When the other shit impacts their play, then it becomes an issue. I think with most sexual issues, people just don't fucking care who you fuck as long as 1) it doesn't impact your work performance 2) it doesn't involve kids.
Outside of that, I would say 99% of people just don't fucking care.
There is a reason why almost every organization in the world has policies against fucking fellow employees and superiors/subordinates to one degree or another. It very seldom turns out well for the organization and its ability to do whatever it's purpose is.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 29, 2024, 03:11 PMThere is a reason why almost every organization in the world has policies against fucking fellow employees and superiors/subordinates to one degree or another. It very seldom turns out well for the organization and its ability to do whatever it's purpose is.
Vince McMahon never got the memo.
So what are we implying here?
If Devo has some health issues going on, mental or otherwise, he needs to step away and get that taken care of. His life is important than the game. I applaud him for doing that even though he's catching hell from some of the fans, because he knew he would and I'm sure he knew the rumors would be out. Take care of yourself young man.
Talking to a black friend of mine today. And he said, "Oh yeah, I heard Devo was gay a long time ago." So, I guess it wasn't much of s secret if you knew the right people.
I have a feeling that 20 years from now Devo will the subject of a "Where are they now?" article and not in a good way.
He was giving off the Rudy from Space Camp vibes.
(https://preview.redd.it/t6imq6rape0b1.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=660094cc6d3c9fcac6320d622778a9799de6fc76) (https://i.redd.it/t6imq6rape0b1.png)
This is where he learned defense.
Lamar was Cobra Kai?
https://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1752136933029871939?t=Zwe_hz5AR7pLBF2EEjE3Pw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1752136933029871939?t=Zwe_hz5AR7pLBF2EEjE3Pw&s=19)
Rampant homosexuality. Explains our basketball teams woes. Probably football's as well.
As far as baseball goes, you know what they say "Chicks dig the long ball." Let's hope our bullpen doesn't.
Men's golf? Putting from the rough?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 29, 2024, 07:17 PMhttps://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1752136933029871939?t=Zwe_hz5AR7pLBF2EEjE3Pw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1752136933029871939?t=Zwe_hz5AR7pLBF2EEjE3Pw&s=19)
He gone.
Can someone trick Bob Holt into asking about our gay basketball players playing status for the next game
Quote from: animal on Jan 29, 2024, 08:03 PMCan someone trick Bob Holt into asking about our gay basketball players playing status for the next game
"Eric, hey, it's me again... you know, Bob. What do you think about these rumors that one or more of your players are homosexuals? Has that caused any division among your team, or was only division between his cheeks?"
lol
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 29, 2024, 04:36 PMTalking to a black friend of mine today. And he said, "Oh yeah, I heard Devo was gay a long time ago." So, I guess it wasn't much of s secret if you knew the right people.
Do you have eyeballs?
from the rant:
"Explains a lot about this season. Inability to stop penetration, open access to the back door, etc. apparently not defending the hole on or off the court. Figured playing time or role on the team caused some guys to get butt hurt, never would have guessed it was literally."
Does this mean we can't make fun of the Aggies without being hypocrites?
Sounds like Muss is doing some fishing. There's talk and he don't want any more SEC smoke allegedly.
Gonna finish on the bottom and jump ship.
If he does what a bitch.
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 29, 2024, 08:52 PMfrom the rant:
"Explains a lot about this season. Inability to stop penetration, open access to the back door, etc. apparently not defending the hole on or off the court. Figured playing time or role on the team caused some guys to get butt hurt, never would have guessed it was literally."
We are all having a good laugh over this, but in all seriousness, this could cause some damage to the basketball program in the future. Normal dudes don't want to be on a team with homos, and talented homos don't want to play where they get disrespected. Musselman is in a tight spot.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 29, 2024, 09:03 PMDoes this mean we can't make fun of the Aggies without being hypocrites?
Probably shouldn't be talking a lot of shit til this blows over, and we get back to winning.
Quote from: red death on Jan 29, 2024, 09:23 PMSounds like Muss is doing some fishing. There's talk and he don't want any more SEC smoke allegedly.
Gonna finish on the bottom and jump ship.
If he does what a bitch.
Any proof at all, or just talking shit?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 29, 2024, 09:40 PMWe are all having a good laugh over this, but in all seriousness, this could cause some damage to the basketball program in the future. Normal dudes don't want to be on a team with homos, and talented homos don't want to play where they get disrespected. Musselman is in a tight spot.
Does it really make any difference any more, if the NIL money is right? Serious question.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 29, 2024, 09:52 PMAny proof at all, or just talking shit?
Rather be talking shit than packing shit.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 29, 2024, 09:52 PMAny proof at all, or just talking shit?
The rumor is out there from relatively credible sources.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 29, 2024, 10:28 PMDoes it really make any difference any more, if the NIL money is right? Serious question.
If the NIL money is relatively equal, I would think it would matter.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 29, 2024, 11:14 PMIf the NIL money is relatively equal, I would think it would matter.
Probably true. But I keep hearing it isn't equal. No idea if what I am hearing is true.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 29, 2024, 11:11 PMThe rumor is out there from relatively credible sources.
I hope the bullshit with all those queens doesn't run off our coach.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 29, 2024, 11:17 PMProbably true. But I keep hearing it isn't equal. No idea if what I am hearing is true.
We pay less or more than most? I really don't keep up with it.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 29, 2024, 11:11 PMThe rumor is out there from relatively credible sources.
and who are the relatively reliable sources?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 05:12 AMand who are the relatively reliable sources?
Ferret Top and HTL. In other words, pretty solid.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 05:12 AMand who are the relatively reliable sources?
Some national basketball writers/online reporters.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 30, 2024, 07:46 AMSome national basketball writers/online reporters.
I'm not trying to be a dick, it just comes naturally. That is about as vague as an answer can get. Who are they? I've googled and found nothing. Can you not name them out of fear of burning your contacts?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 30, 2024, 05:20 AMFerret Top and HTL. In other words, pretty solid.
Lmao Ferret Top. He tweeted out there was no chance we were hiring Petrino and then he was hired hours later. I don't think that idiot is tapped in.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 07:55 AMI'm not trying to be a dick, it just comes naturally. That is about as vague as an answer can get. Who are they? I've googled and found nothing. Can you not name them out of fear of burning your contacts?
This is where it's coming from.
https://x.com/coachingchanges/status/1752038486532669614?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 07:55 AMI'm not trying to be a dick, it just comes naturally. That is about as vague as an answer can get. Who are they? I've googled and found nothing. Can you not name them out of fear of burning your contacts?
It's premium information on a paid board (Rivals). Sorry for being so vague.
One of the online people referring to it is "named" Trilly Donovan on Twitter, which actually is someone who covers the sport professionally in spite of the name.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 08:03 AMThis is where it's coming from.
https://x.com/coachingchanges/status/1752038486532669614?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
One of them, but that came out more recently.
Allegedly this has been in the works for a while.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 30, 2024, 08:04 AMIt's premium information on a paid board (Rivals). Sorry for being so vague.
One of the online people referring to it is "named" Trilly Donovan on Twitter, which actually is someone who covers the sport professionally in spite of the name.
And that guy is pretty reliable.
Motherfucker put us in back-to-back Elite 8's and a Sweet 16. If Muss were to bounce I wouldn't call him a bitch after he put us back on the map. We were never good enough during the Heath, Pelphrey, and Anderson years to even warrant a consideration from the GameDay crew.
He's also almost universally loved here and has a daughter in school at Fayetteville. Apart from answering retarded questions from the state media, why would he bail. I think he gets a $1.5 million retention bonus if he's still here in 2026 - just give it to him now if that helps.
Coaches that bomb badly do look for an exit though I kinda doubt we're there yet unless Muss really isn't looking forward to the fallout here over what ever it is coming
If Muss goes it's about time to move on from HY.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 30, 2024, 08:07 AMMotherfucker put us in back-to-back Elite 8's and a Sweet 16. If Muss were to bounce I wouldn't call him a bitch after he put us back on the map. We were never good enough during the Heath, Pelphrey, and Anderson years to even warrant a consideration from the GameDay crew.
He's also almost universally loved here and has a daughter in school at Fayetteville. Apart from answering retarded questions from the state media, why would he bail. I think he gets a $1.5 million retention bonus if he's still here in 2026 - just give it to him now if that helps.
I'd look at him similarly to Petrino, even though his departure would be of his own choosing. Will always appreciate that he brought us back from the depths and showed a glimpse of what the program could be.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 08:08 AMCoaches that bomb badly do look for an exit though I kinda doubt we're there yet unless Muss really isn't looking forward to the fallout here over what ever it is coming
If Muss goes it's about time to move on from HY.
A bad season isn't going to get Muss onto the hot seat here, but a second one back to back would. If he leaves now he resets his clock somewhere else with another 4-5 years. Plus maybe the guy just gets bored staying in the same place for very long.
As for whether it's time to move on, that would depend a lot on who he gets to replace Musselman. Someone like Chris Beard could potentially elevate the program even further, if we're willing to pay up and accept the baggage. He could be the Nolan to Muss's Eddie.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 08:08 AMCoaches that bomb badly do look for an exit though I kinda doubt we're there yet unless Muss really isn't looking forward to the fallout here over what ever it is coming
If Muss goes it's about time to move on from HY.
HY has been pushing for renovating BWA and needs $100M. This season and losing Muss squashes that. Also, Mrs. Muss is joined at the hip with the Hunt's which is another interesting dynamic to this.
If I was sitting on $101 million, I would donate a hundred mil of that to BWA.
If anyone wants to read the latest thread on all this, including some details/speculation as to why this might happen, you can sign up for a 7-day free trial for Rivals (I think).
The guy posting this has worked pretty hard to build contacts in college basketball. His dad was fairly tied into AAU around here for a while as well. I know he talks a lot to many of the main college basketball writers...guys like Jeff Goodman, Rob Dauster, etc. although I have no idea if they are where he's getting any of this.
It could be bullshit, hopefully it is. Not endorsing it as fact, but when there's this much smoke there is usually at least a little bit of fire attached.
https://arkansas.forums.rivals.com/threads/laying-out-the-musselman-rumors-timeline.128295/
They're going to fuck BWA up with those courtside corporate suites anyway.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 30, 2024, 08:04 AMIt's premium information on a paid board (Rivals). Sorry for being so vague.
One of the online people referring to it is "named" Trilly Donovan on Twitter, which actually is someone who covers the sport professionally in spite of the name.
Thanks.
It just doesn't make sense. Why would Muss jump to another program like Arizona State or Minnesota? Arkansas is a premier place and you can win here. More so than the other schools mentioned. Is he really that opposed to competition? Surly he doesn't' think he has hit his celling at Arkansas after two Elite 8s and a Sweet 16.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 08:08 AMIf Muss goes it's about time to move on from HY Razorback Sports.
I'm just about at that point.
Rumors he wants a better buyout and not enough NIL. Hard to believe on NIL. Good luck at Arizona State or Minnesota then.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 30, 2024, 08:39 AMRumors he wants a better buyout and not enough NIL. Hard to believe on NIL. Good luck at Arizona State or Minnesota then.
Don't think it's true on the buyout. His buyout is already small at his request.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 08:29 AMThanks.
It just doesn't make sense. Why would Muss jump to another program like Arizona State or Minnesota? Arkansas is a premier place and you can win here. More so than the other schools mentioned. Is he really that opposed to competition? Surly he doesn't' think he has hit his celling at Arkansas after two Elite 8s and a Sweet 16.
Louisville.
That is interesting. I guess Louisville is a lateral move at best. I wonder how their NIL game is.
Changing landscape of college sports may be at play.
Arkansas basketball was the tip of the spear for the portal shit and then we fucked the NIL part up trying to appear #integrity in typical Arkansas fashion.
We rebranded the fuck up as Arkansas Edge and that may or may not help. Perhaps the damage is done and it will be a tall hill to climb.
Now here comes the question. Let's suppose those are the motives. If Minnesota and ASU are losing programs it stands to reason their portal and NIL shit is also fucked up...
So then we go to fan base, wants/desires and security. All of which I would like to think Muss has at Arkansas. Fans will be patient but Arkansas basketball fans are not stupid. We know this is a lost season in which little or nothing can be built from. There is no foundation for the future. Everything will have to be rebuilt from square one. And that is going to the case every season moving forward based on how we are currently approaching things.
There is precedent for a carpetbag coach who was previously a head coach in the professional league, and who is undoubtedly a great coach, to take the head coaching job at Minnesota after 5 years.
He was even a little guy.
I could actually see Louisville. He'd be able to turn that around.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 08:44 AMThat is interesting. I guess Louisville is a lateral move at best. I wonder how their NIL game is.
I agree on that. It's not a better job, but it's a chance at a similar job with a fresh 4-5 years.
They also probably care more about basketball relative to the other sports.
Hunter absolutely top-ticked our athletic program last year at the LR TD Club. "Things won't always be this great so just enjoy it."
Yurachek needs to go. Fuck that guy.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 30, 2024, 08:52 AMHunter absolutely top-ticked our athletic program last year at the LR TD Club. "Things won't always be this great so just enjoy it."
We've moved down a few spots in putenshal
I'm not getting the HY hate. Is it driven solely by Pittman?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 09:43 AMI'm not getting the HY hate. Is it driven solely by Pittman?
Are you new to WooPig? ;D ;D
He is the flavor of the week/month/year. WooPig has to hate somebody at the University. It is his turn.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 30, 2024, 09:46 AMAre you new to WooPig?
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/back-to-the-future-nobody-calls-me-noob-zaphc3g1yephtcv5.gif)
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 09:43 AMI'm not getting the HY hate. Is it driven solely by Pittman?
What has he done that's good besides hire Musselman? Guy gives off carny vibes to me. I fucking hate our gameday atmosphere in football and basketball now. They have basically phased the band out in favor of a DJ and that obnoxious motherfucker John Williams.
I'll let him make the next football hire before I decide.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 09:57 AMWhat has he done that's good besides hire Musselman? Guy gives off carny vibes to me. I fucking hate our gameday atmosphere in football and basketball now. They have basically phased the band out in favor of a DJ and that obnoxious motherfucker John Williams.
In my view he has done a good job as AD. If I am not mistaken, in addition to Musselman, he has hired the gymnastics coach and the softball coach, both of whom have the programs going great. He hired the women's track coach after the previous one retired (I realize that was just elevating an assistant, but retaining him was important). Of course, he has kept Van Horn happy.
Having said that, I like Musselman, but I don't believe he has one ounce of loyalty to UA. I believe he ultimately wants another pro job. It would not surprise me at all if the rumors of him looking around are true. Oh, and Yurachek has also done a pretty good job of keeping Muss happy-- let him have everything he wants. He has a huge staff, including two sons.
https://x.com/trillydonovan/status/1752353476451893699
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 30, 2024, 10:19 AMhttps://x.com/trillydonovan/status/1752353476451893699
One of those 3 in the top pic will be our coach next year.
Allegedly.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:21 AMOne of those 3 in the top pic will be our coach next year.
Allegedly.
I love Muss but it's hard to argue that he's a better coach than Beard.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:21 AMOne of those 3 in the top pic will be our coach next year.
Allegedly.
Cool, all of them will work.
I'm fine with Beard. He wins wherever he goes.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:21 AMOne of those 3 in the top pic will be our coach next year.
Allegedly.
Interesting, thanks. I thought he was saying those are the finalists for Louisville.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 30, 2024, 10:30 AMInteresting, thanks. I thought he was saying those are the finalists for Louisville.
Yeah, that's what I got too.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 30, 2024, 10:30 AMInteresting, thanks. I thought he was saying those are the finalists for Louisville.
That is what he's saying.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 10:32 AMThat is what he's saying.
But if Muss gets the job then either Tang or Beard is coming here? I guess I'm slow this morning.
And yes, that Trilly Donovan account has been correct much more often than not.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 30, 2024, 10:30 AMInteresting, thanks. I thought he was saying those are the finalists for Louisville.
That is what he's saying. I'm saying if Muss goes to Louisville or anywhere else, we get Beard. Or possibly Tang if Beard turns us down, which I doubt he would.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 30, 2024, 10:35 AMBut if Muss gets the job then either Tang or Beard is coming here? I guess I'm slow this morning.
And yes, that Trilly Donovan account has been correct much more often than not.
No I don't think that post relates to our job at all. I'm sure Beard would be a candidate for us if Muss left though.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:36 AMThat is what he's saying. I'm saying if Muss goes to Louisville or anywhere else, we get Beard. Or possibly Tang if Beard turns us down, which I doubt he would.
He was the only one I wanted over Muss. Still okay with it.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:36 AMThat is what he's saying. I'm saying if Muss goes to Louisville or anywhere else, we get Beard. Or possibly Tang if Beard turns us down, which I doubt he would.
Got it 👍🏻. I'd be perfectly fine with that.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 08:57 AMYurachek needs to go. Fuck that guy.
Found the idiot
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 10:45 AMFound the idiot
Found Jon Williams burner. Eat a dick, Jon.
I'm not that confident Beard would leave OM for us.
It doesn't look like Beard has a buyout. Thank you for getting us back Muss, but I'll take Beard all day if that's how it works out.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 10:50 AMFound Jon Williams burner. Eat a dick, Jon.
You truly are a dumbass.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 10:57 AMYou truly are a dumbass.
Because I don't think Hunter Yurachek is great? We're stuck with a lame duck coach in football because of him. I don't give a fuck about softball or gymnastics. How many football games did you go to last year?
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 30, 2024, 10:53 AMI'm not that confident Beard would leave OM for us.
I am.
I am not that familiar with Tang's body of work. I would certainly take Beard. I actually prefer Beard over Muss.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 30, 2024, 10:53 AMI'm not that confident Beard would leave OM for us.
You can win a title here. That isn't possible at Ole Miss in men's basketball.
If given the choice between Beard and Muss, I'd take Beard 11 out of 10 times. I know that is crazy talk but its my truth, umkay?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 11:21 AMIf given the choice between Beard and Muss, I'd take Beard 11 out of 10 times. I know that is crazy talk but its my truth, umkay?
The guy almost won a national title at Texas Tech. I don't think that's crazy talk at all.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 11:12 AMBecause I don't think Hunter Yurachek is great? We're stuck with a lame duck coach in football because of him. I don't give a fuck about softball or gymnastics. How many football games did you go to last year?
I'm sure if the money had been there, titboss would have been canned. He did rehire petrino, so the heir apparent is already in place if titboss falters again.
I really dngaf how many games you attended.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 11:26 AMI'm sure if the money had been there, titboss would have been canned. He did rehire petrino, so the heir apparent is already in place if titboss falters again.
I really dngaf how many games you attended.
The reason the money wasn't there was because Yurachek gave him a big buyout for no reason, retard. Now back to the basketball team. You can go back to telling everyone how much you hate black people in the politics board.
Beard has won 30 games at schools that aren't good at basketball (Little Rock and Texas Tech) and then won a tourney game at Texas his first year and was positioned to go far with last year's team before he ran into his situation.
He now has Ole Miss poised to make the tourney and make some noise, and that program hasn't been to the NCAA Tourney since 2019 and hasn't won a non-First Four game since 2013.
I'd take Beard.
I wanted Beard worse than duckman wanted us to stare at his wife's tits.
I still do. I want Muss to be our coach for a long as he wants to be here, but HY would be insane to not be keeping in regular contact with Beard's agent.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 11:29 AMYou can go back to telling everyone how much you hate black people in the politics board.
Never said that, and you know that. You must be black.
That's our new sheriff
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 11:39 AMNever said that, and you know that. You must be black.
You don't know sports. You've only been in this thread to talk about the gay shit and to insult people. Go back to your hole.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 11:46 AMYou don't know sports. You've only been in this thread to talk about the gay shit and to insult people. Go back to your hole.
You are a sports expert? All sports or college sports? Are you an experienced enough in sports and sports management to be an athletic director? I suppose you are since you are so opinionated about it.
As far as I know, the only person on here I have directly insulted is you, and it was deserved.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 11:52 AMYou are a sports expert? All sports or college sports? Are you an experienced enough in sports and sports management to be an athletic director? I suppose you are since you are so opinionated about it.
As far as I know, the only person on here I have directly insulted is you, and it was deserved.
Are you going to contribute anything worth a shit about the coaching discussion or just fantasize about how many gays are on the team? Who the fuck are you anyway? You're lucky this is the kinder and gentler woopig. We would have run your ass out of here immediately back in the day if you just showed up here and started posting after lurking on the nobville.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 11:57 AMAre you going to contribute anything worth a shit about the coaching discussion or just fantasize about how many gays are on the team?
Nah, my life doesn't revolve around sports. I enjoy the games more when we win, but ultimately I really don't care who gets hired or fired. Those decisions are made at a far higher level than this board. I hope you realize that.
I will reserve the right to call out stupid posts as I see fit.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jan 30, 2024, 10:21 AMOne of those 3 in the top pic will be our coach next year.
Allegedly.
Louisville coach next year.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 12:05 PMNah, my life doesn't revolve around sports. I enjoy the games more when we win, but ultimately I really don't care who gets hired or fired. Those decisions are made at a far higher level than this board. I hope you realize that.
I will reserve the right to call out stupid posts as I see fit.
Go back to the politics board if you're not going to talk sports. Better yet go die in a fire. Where's Swahili? How much do I need to Venmo her to make this guy have a stroke?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 12:14 PMGo back to the politics board if you're not going to talk sports. Better yet go die in a fire. Where's Swahili? How much do I need to Venmo her to make this guy have a stroke?
Why are you so triggered?
Can Devo and Trevon identify as women and head on over to the women's team so we can wrap up the 'ship in that sport?
Quote from: GeoHogsGeo on Jan 30, 2024, 12:21 PMCan Devo and Trevon identify as women and head on over to the women's team so we can wrap up the 'ship in that sport?
You might be on to something here. Brazile already has the whole playing like a bitch thing down.
I concur that Beard and Porter Moser are both better coaches than what Muss has shown lately.
The edge Muss gave us was fucked the moment every swinging dick in college athletics started doing the same thing with respect to building thru transfers.
From what I'm seeing the G league coaches aren't doing so hot these days. Stackhouse will be back coaching scrubs in the g by next season.
The Missouri coach I thought had some potential but there season has sucked as well.
I like Muss and hope he's given time to pull it together but it's straight up bullshit if he's raising his skirt mid season because things aren't going well. The drama on this team seems to have been something that should have been nipped out long ago...
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 02:02 PMI concur that Beard and Porter Moser are both better coaches than what Muss has shown lately.
The edge Muss gave us was fucked the moment every swinging dick in college athletics started doing the same thing with respect to building thru transfers.
From what I'm seeing the G league coaches aren't doing so hot these days. Stackhouse will be back coaching scrubs in the g by next season.
The Missouri coach I thought had some potential but there season has sucked as well.
I like Muss and hope he's given time to pull it together but it's straight up bullshit if he's raising his skirt mid season because things aren't going well. The drama on this team seems to have been something that should have been nipped out long ago...
Great post man.
I agree with everything and especially the part of Muss'edge is now gone in the portal.
He was genius for adapting quickly.
Now it's back to fundamentals and how good you can run a program. We have a lack of institutional control this year and that's what will get him.
He's pissed off the wrong people with all the drama and bullshit. Many money folks who gave to the team want their investment protected. And they're not happy Muss couldn't do that this year.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 02:02 PMThe drama on this team seems to have been something that should have been nipped out long ago...
A middle aged white dude trying to lay down the rules to two (as far as we know at the moment) black queens has very little chance of success in this day and age. Maybe he tried and got no help from the athletic dept and that could be the reason he is looking at his options. There could easily be a bunch of lawsuits fly over this. Muss may be looking for a way out before shtf. We have no idea at this point, and probably never will.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 02:21 PMA middle aged white dude trying to lay down the rules to two (as far as we know at the moment) black queens has very little chance of success in this day and age. Maybe he tried and got no help from the athletic dept and that could be the reason he is looking at his options. There could easily be a bunch of lawsuits fly over this. Muss may be looking for a way out before shtf. We have no idea at this point, and probably never will.
What lawsuits? All we have at this point is that Devo left the team again. The rest is all rumor and speculation, yet you're ready to start entertaining the possibility of lawsuits?
Christ, at this rate tomorrow, fans will swear they have it on good authority that Muss will be brought up on federal racketeering, human trafficking, and prostitution charges for turning the bb program into an all male brothel.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jan 30, 2024, 02:51 PMWhat lawsuits? All we have at this point is that Devo left the team again. The rest is all rumor and speculation, yet you're ready to start entertaining the possibility of lawsuits?
Christ, at this rate tomorrow, fans will swear they have it on good authority that Muss will be brought up on federal racketeering, human trafficking, and prostitution charges for turning the bb program into an all male brothel.
You think this is crazy, you should see some of the other stuff he posts.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jan 30, 2024, 02:51 PMWhat lawsuits? All we have at this point is that Devo left the team again. The rest is all rumor and speculation, yet you're ready to start entertaining the possibility of lawsuits?
Christ, at this rate tomorrow, fans will swear they have it on good authority that Muss will be brought up on federal racketeering, human trafficking, and prostitution charges for turning the bb program into an all male brothel.
Give it time to play out. This thing could get much, much bigger.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 30, 2024, 02:56 PMYou think this is crazy, you should see some of the other stuff he posts.
I thrive in the chaos they create.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 30, 2024, 02:56 PMYou think this is crazy, you should see some of the other stuff he posts.
Those Petrino lawsuits are coming any moment.
From the sound of the rumors some of our BBall team might be BleedInRed.
That's a lot to take up the poop chute.
Quote from: egregious on Jan 30, 2024, 03:20 PMFrom the sound of the rumors some of our BBall team might be BleedInRed.
That's a lot to take up the poop chute.
I've heard some rumors today that are truly in the WTF category. I'll let someone else break the news if they turn out true.
Quote from: CardHog on Jan 30, 2024, 03:26 PMI've heard some rumors today that are truly in the WTF category. I'll let someone else break the news if they turn out true.
Spill the goods puss. How much worse could it be.
Yeah how much worse can it be? I mean what can be more gay than this?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 03:05 PMI thrive in the chaos they create.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 03:51 PMYeah how much worse can it be? I mean what can be more gay than this?
And here is my little huckleberry again. Couldn't let well enough alone?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 03:55 PMAnd here is my little huckleberry again. Couldn't let well enough alone?
Damn you really are gay.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 03:59 PMDamn you really are gay.
Get on home to your chores little man. Momma will have supper ready soon.
You guys need to fucking stop.
Quote from: CardHog on Jan 30, 2024, 03:26 PMI've heard some rumors today that are truly in the WTF category. I'll let someone else break the news if they turn out true.
Come on man. Spill the beans. I doubt anyone knows who you are so spreading gossip doesn't' cause any harm.
Guess I can't make fun of Mizzou anymore either.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 30, 2024, 04:13 PMGuess I can't make fun of Mizzou anymore either.
Now you're straight up plagiarizing. Do better.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 04:06 PMYou guys need to fucking stop.
Come on man. Spill the beans. I doubt anyone knows who you are so spreading gossip doesn't' cause any harm.
I really have a sneaky suspicion that this is way bigger than a couple queens and a losing basketball season. Muss is not going to willingly run off from what he has built over one bad season. Something funky is going on with the program.
Clearly Muss and Devo have something going on. That is why he kept giving Devo playing time.
Someone bring me up to speed here. Why is Muss leaving? Gay players? Where is all of this coming from?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 04:21 PMClearly Muss and Devo have something going on. That is why he kept giving Devo playing time.
We have guys worse than Devo who were getting minutes. El Ellis is the worst.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 04:21 PMClearly Muss and Devo have something going on. That is why he kept giving Devo playing time.
That would explain how he managed to find so many gay d1 level players.
If true, this is bad. Really, really bad.
Will there be tanks?
You can't just hint at a flatly unsubstantiated rumor from god knows where and then jet. Come on man. How higher up the gaydar does this go? Is a midget involved?
One thing that bothers me about the gay stuff is you would think ESPN's team of gay people would be working overtime to figure out how proud they need to be for us.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 04:52 PMYou can't just hint at a flatly unsubstantiated rumor from god knows where and then jet. Come on man. How higher up the gaydar does this go? Is a midget involved?
One thing that bothers me about the gay stuff is you would think ESPN's team of gay people would be working overtime to figure out how proud they need to be for us.
You know if any of these guys actually came out as gay the corporate media would try to turn them into heroes right away. And blame our fanbase or whoever for making Devo quit. But it's all rumors and innuendo right now so they can't do that.
Like I said in a earlier post in one of these threads...last season's team kept getting into verbal sparring matches with everyone including some of the scrub teams and it seemed weird/odd. We thought it was them being cocky but it makes you wonder if they were being called homos or that certain individuals on the team were catching gay slurs.
New logo dropped. IMG_5648.jpeg
Still better than front facing hog.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 04:57 PMrumors and innuendo right now so they can't do that.
in you end doh?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2024, 05:40 PMStill better than front facing hog.
Front facing gay hog logo incoming
Miss Lippy's car is green
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 05:51 PMFront facing gay hog logo incoming
lower/front hog going "oooooooooooooooooooo"
upper/back Hog with a big shit eatin grin
Quote from: egregious on Jan 30, 2024, 05:57 PMlower/front hog going "oooooooooooooooooooo"
upper/back Hog with a big shit eatin grin
Bottom hog can have a basketball gag in his mouth. Gay it up real good.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 04:17 PMI really have a sneaky suspicion that this is way bigger than a couple queens and a losing basketball season. Muss is not going to willingly run off from what he has built over one bad season. Something funky is going on with the program.
You could be right, but I disagree strongly with the implication that Muss has some sense of loyalty to the program. I don't think he has any. He will be ready to bolt the first time a pro team so much as sniffs at him, and some college teams as well. I am not so sure he wouldn't leave to take the San Diego St job if he had the chance.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 06:03 PMYou could be right, but I disagree strongly with the implication that Muss has some sense of loyalty to the program. I don't think he has any. He will be ready to bolt the first time a pro team so much as sniffs at him, and some college teams as well. I am not so sure he wouldn't leave to take the San Diego St job if he had the chance.
Maybe so, but nobody is looking his way after the egg the team laid this year. If he is looking to bolt, something is up.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 05:04 PMNew logo dropped. IMG_5648.jpeg
It's times like these where Woopig really shines
If you want to know the absolute pain and horror it is being a Razorback fan go back to the front of this thread and read the joy and elation slowly turn to confusion and dismay to where we are here today with Muss leaving and gay sex.
You can't make a pain like being a Razorback fan feels.
Quote from: CardHog on Jan 30, 2024, 03:26 PMI've heard some rumors today that are truly in the WTF category. I'll let someone else break the news if they turn out true.
Pm me I'll post the rumor.
Seriously just caveat that's it's a rumor and post it up.
Quote from: red death on Jan 30, 2024, 06:28 PMIf you want to know the absolute pain and horror it is being a Razorback fan go back to the front of this thread and read the joy and elation slowly turn to confusion and dismay to where we are here today with Muss leaving and gay sex.
You can't make a pain like being a Razorback fan feels.
Embrace the horror.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 30, 2024, 06:32 PMEmbrace the horror.
And there's still baseball season.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 05:04 PMNew logo dropped. IMG_5648.jpeg
Just had to explain to the bar why I'm laughing so hysterically
This is making the rounds. IMG_3536.jpg
Razorback Sports Talk seems legit enough. Put the whole program in a hot tub and start tossing toasters.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 30, 2024, 06:49 PMThis is making the rounds. [url="https://www.woopig.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5018;type=preview;file"]IMG_3536.jpg[/url]
There is possible way that could hurt recruiting.
:sarcasm:
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 30, 2024, 06:49 PMThis is making the rounds.
If that's all true, we should put it all out publicly ASAP and schedule a special on ESPN. In today's world, we'd be the toast of the nation and become America's Team.
Guess we'll know soon if this is internet hysteria gone mad or the real issue with this team.
Reminds me of the first rumor that "there was a girl on the bike." Hopefully it doesn't lead to 10 years of wandering in the wilderness like it did for football.
Not sure how the university responds. If this was all nothing, they would have posted a clip of the team practicing or something by now.
Quote from: TC on Jan 30, 2024, 06:31 PMPm me I'll post the rumor.
Seriously just caveat that's it's a rumor and post it up.
We all know about Devo, have suspicions about Brazil, and now apparently Mark. Rumor is Devo and Brazil are a couple, Brazil and Mark hooked up and Devo found out. Bitch fight ensues.
Also, apparently Mark was run of Houston for being the gays.
Wild rumors at this point, don't quote me.
how would the university respond?
the coach would say (if asked) so-and-so is no longer on the team. after that, there's nothing to say.
If Muss leaves because of the players he brought in, then fuck him. Stay and fix this issue.
With that said, any chance Beard comes here if the program is eaten up with the gheys?
Lol. Our team is literally gay. You have to admit, if our program was going to crash and burn like this, at least it was funny.
Quote from: CardHog on Jan 30, 2024, 06:55 PMWe all know about Devo, have suspicions about Brazil, and now apparently Mark. Rumor is Devo and Brazil are a couple, Brazil and Mark hooked up and Devo found out. Bitch fight ensues.
Also, apparently Mark was run of Houston for being the gays.
Wild rumors at this point, don't quote me.
What are the odds that muss could blindly stumble across that many gay d1 basketball players? Was he actively looking for gay basketball players?
I still don't get why Muss would leave over a mess that can literally be cleaned up at the stroke of a pen now or at the end of the season. This all smacks of yokels who likely don't understand that Muss doesn't give a fuck if a player is gay, thinking he would be embarrassed by it enough to move on. It's possible though someone has already told him to go looking because this shit don't fly...if recruiting is fucked at Arkansas it will be fucked anywhere he goes using that logic.
Perhaps delicate "in-house" matters were leaking out and that's why a player or two is leaving. Two many eyeballs probing over what the fuck is wrong with the basketball team and finally someone cracks that it might be from all the polls being smoked between teammates. It all fits though because something weird/odd chemistry wise seemed to occur around the time they went to the Bahamas. Same thing with Menefield seemed to be the odds on savior and a couple games later isn't getting playing time and hasn't been the same since. Weird.
Devo is probably a really great kid and Muss has wanted him to have a great senior season and I'm sure it pains him that it didn't happen for him but on the same token everyone with eyes has seen that this kid for two seasons has been a drama queen. It seems he's not the only diva on the team though.
Quote from: razor5396 on Jan 30, 2024, 07:01 PMLol. Our team is literally gay. You have to admit, if our program was going to crash and burn like this, at least it was funny.
You know, looking back on the season, they play like a bunch of gays too.
Remember the horrific fashion show before the season? They all looked flaming and Mrs. Muss had them catwalking the runway. This is the kind of shit women will do running amok if not contained.
It's the culture. It's rotten and if we don't do something to fix it fast we'll be Bud Light.
This is bad. We're going to be a laughingstock for sure. There's no way around it now.
Muss is toast in recruits living rooms and he knows it. Especially in the south. Nobody is sending their son to play for a program operating like Caligula.
He's done.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 30, 2024, 06:49 PMThis is making the rounds. IMG_3536.jpg
Interesting part is I wanted to see the nine comments. That group isn't even findable on the facebooks.
Quote from: red death on Jan 30, 2024, 07:11 PMYou know, looking back on the season, they play like a bunch of gays too.
Remember the horrific fashion show before the season? They all looked flaming and Mrs. Muss had them catwalking the runway. This is the kind of shit women will do running amok if not contained.
It's the culture. It's rotten and if we don't do something to fix it fast we'll be Bud Light.
This is bad. We're going to be a laughingstock for sure. There's no way around it now.
Muss is toast in recruits living rooms and he knows it. Especially in the south. Nobody is sending their son to play for a program operating like Caligula.
He's done.
I detect no lies in this post.
My brain refuses to believe any of this is true. It is so completely far fetched that it simply can't be true.
We aren't raining 3s anymore.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 07:48 PMMy brain refuses to believe any of this is true. It is so completely far fetched that it simply can't be true.
Screenshot of a picture of text on a phone posted to Facebook can't be wrong dude
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 07:48 PMMy brain refuses to believe any of this is true. It is so completely far fetched that it simply can't be true.
Really? It's been staring us in the face all season, we just weren't paying attention until now.
Yeah, Devo is obvious in hindsight.
For the want of a tummy stick, a program was lost.
Will Brazile make the trip? The antlers will be all over him.
Quote from: BEvERage on Jan 30, 2024, 08:05 PMWill Brazile make the trip? The antlers will be all over him.
They HATED him before these rumors came out, now they have ammo. I bet he won't be there.
Didn't Pinion paint his fingernails too?
Quote from: BEvERage on Jan 30, 2024, 08:05 PMWill Brazile make the trip? The antlers will be all over him.
My money says he is done as a razorback, by his choice.
Puthy brought down the football program. Looks like dick is going to bottom out the bball program.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 30, 2024, 06:49 PMThis is making the rounds. [url="https://www.woopig.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5018;type=preview;file"]IMG_3536.jpg[/url]
I think I know that guy- Jimmy Welch. That's all I will say publicly.
I will say this also-- some of you know him too, I believe.
Everyone's gay once in awhile.
I found this unreleased locker room footage from fall practice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbZb8cHKRaA&t=47s
Honestly the most I'm willing to believe right now is Devo and Brazil were "dating" and having issues. I heard the Devo is bisexual rumors from some chick like two years ago. Half the team having sex with each other is just a little too much for me to buy into.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 08:38 PMHonestly the most I'm willing to believe right now is Devo and Brazil were "dating" and having issues. I heard the Devo is bisexual rumors from some chick like two years ago. Half the team having sex with each other is just a little too much for me to buy into.
What if I told you half the team was fucking, and the other half was being fucked? Does that make it any weirder?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 30, 2024, 08:40 PMWhat if I told you half the team was fucking, and the other half was being fucked? Does that make it any weirder?
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I'd think if this team played as well on the court as they do off the court we'd be unbeatable.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 08:45 PMI'd think if this team played as well on the court as they do off the court we'd be unbeatable.
Well, that's what they say about sore dicks...you can't beat 'em.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 08:32 PMI think I know that guy- Jimmy Welch. That's all I will say publicly.
It appears that Razorback Sports Talk is not a group on FaceSpace.
That in and of itself makes this whole thing suspect.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 30, 2024, 08:49 PMWell, that's what they say about sore dicks...you can't beat 'em.
I walked straight into that one.
https://twitter.com/Jay_MWilliams_/status/1751384955614114112
References from 3 days ago about Deno being gay. Maybe it's true.
Quote from: animal on Jan 30, 2024, 08:50 PMI walked straight into that one.
That would be the only thing straight in this thread. Holy shit.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 08:49 PMIt appears that Razorback Sports Talk is not a group on FaceSpace.
That in and of itself makes this whole thing suspect.
I just checked that out also and agree with you.
https://twitter.com/kj_jefferson2/status/1752486048028840183
This guy posted it in December.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 08:57 PMhttps://twitter.com/kj_jefferson2/status/1752486048028840183
This guy posted it in December.
Devo paints his nails and he talks effeminately. Like I said the Devo rumors have been out there for years.
This Mizzou fan was posting about this shit in November.
https://x.com/hopper4heisman/status/1730270501728137469?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
https://twitter.com/kj_jefferson2/status/1752338371567817023
Three way triangle between Devo, Graham, and Brazile.
The more I see the more I find this all hard to believe.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 08:32 PMI think I know that guy- Jimmy Welch. That's all I will say publicly.
I will say this also-- some of you know him too, I believe.
So do I if it's who I think it is.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 08:57 PMI just checked that out also and agree with you.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2024, 08:49 PMIt appears that Razorback Sports Talk is not a group on FaceSpace.
That in and of itself makes this whole thing suspect.
I mentioned this earlier also, but have since remembered that you can have a hidden group that is not searchable.
Why do we always implode in spectacular fashion?
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Jan 30, 2024, 09:05 PMI mentioned this earlier also, but have since remembered that you can have a hidden group that is not searchable.
I looked also but didn't know that. It makes sense if it's the Jimmy I know.
Quote from: RedRiverHog on Jan 30, 2024, 09:07 PMI looked also but didn't know that. It makes sense if it's the Jimmy I know.
It sounds exactly like something he would say he knew. Check your PMs.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 09:15 PMIt sounds exactly like something he would say he knew. Check your PMs.
Absolutely
Quote from: CardHog on Jan 30, 2024, 06:55 PMWe all know about Devo, have suspicions about Brazil, and now apparently Mark. Rumor is Devo and Brazil are a couple, Brazil and Mark hooked up and Devo found out. Bitch fight ensues.
Also, apparently Mark was run of Houston for being the gays.
Wild rumors at this point, don't quote me.
Thanks.
If Muss leaves over a mess he brought in than fuck him.
We'll be alright.
Think I found the culprit.
https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks (https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2024, 09:31 PMThink I found the culprit.
https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks (https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks)
IMG_5656.jpeg
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 30, 2024, 09:34 PMIMG_5656.jpeg
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 30, 2024, 09:06 PMWhy do we always implode in spectacular fashion?
Its all over the rant now. I can't help but laugh.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2024, 09:31 PMThink I found the culprit.
https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks (https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks)
You mean we are fucking paying an employee to facilitate queer activity? This is unbelievable . Frank has been spinning in his grave.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 10:46 PMYou mean we are fucking paying an employee to facilitate queer activity? This is unbelievable . Frank has been spinning in his grave.
Things like this could make me turn my back on the entire program. As a state run university, surely there is a paper trail that confirms the existence of this position, and who pays him.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 30, 2024, 09:06 PMWhy do we always implode in spectacular fashion?
Cause we ghey as hell and like being flamboyant about it.
Holy fuck my eyes are burning reading that pile of steaming dogshit.
What is they doing up there? No wonder we fucking suck in everything.
We are a woke hellhole cesspool of shit and they all deserve for theys/them career to be burned to the ground.
I'm getting too old for this shit. I'm not spending another dollar.
Burn it all down.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2024, 09:31 PMThink I found the culprit.
https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks (https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks)
I'm confused on who is They...I'm only reading about one homo. Is there an entire team of homos corrupting our teams with their mental health care?
Sounds like something the Waltons would have demanded
From a post on the Rant
Also, consider the ripple effect. My wife's 84 year old grandmother is the most rabid hogs basketball fan I know. We can't tell her the reason the hogs collapsed is because they are sucking each other off and it's causing jealousy issues. It would break her heart and quite possibly kill her.
Good lord people, leave Mariah alone
https://x.com/danyellesargent/status/1752673300122096061?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
And 'sup with Pinion?
(https://i.ibb.co/5FTv34w/IMG-5008.png)
I feel like I'm in the Twighlight Zone. This can't be real.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 31, 2024, 06:52 AMGood lord people, leave Mariah alone
Seems like that would make them leave more than anything else.
Being Arkansas, are fans stalking the girl on social media, calling the school, or just hanging out in the pick-up line to ask her questions?
Quote from: Corn Pop on Jan 31, 2024, 07:11 AMI feel like I'm in the Twighlight Zone. This can't be real.
You mean the Bighlight Zone?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 30, 2024, 11:30 PMThings like this could make me turn my back on the entire program. As a state run university, surely there is a paper trail that confirms the existence of this position, and who pays him.
If that means you leave WooPig too, then I REALLY hope this is real.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 31, 2024, 07:13 AMSeems like that would make them leave more than anything else.
Being Arkansas, are fans stalking the girl on social media, calling the school, or just hanging out in the pick-up line to ask her questions?
Most of us act pretty much exactly like we did in the 8th grade and don't mature much beyond that. You read any posts on the internet from middle aged men recently?
I'm sure her schoolmates are carrying the water for their dads and their Twitter followers. Or heck they may be wondering why the hogs suck. Lord knows I was a fan at that age.
I can rarely reread my own posts without thinking that guy's an idiot.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 31, 2024, 06:52 AMGood lord people, leave Mariah alone
https://x.com/danyellesargent/status/1752673300122096061?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
She can get lost too. Every goddamned nonprofit and state entity has tried to make her the face of Arkansas.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 07:34 AMShe can get lost too. Every goddamned nonprofit and state entity has tried to make her the face of Arkansas.
Her "zero truth" statement makes me think the official position is going to be that none of this is true, move on.
They're so mindful of Twitter/social media that I'd be surprised if that was a heat of the moment tweet.
Think Tang could win big here too. And he's anti-woke.
Danyelle can shut her trap. These rumors kicked off because a senior and so-called team leader walked off from the team right before one of the biggest games of the year. He did it last year too and he tried to portal out but no one wanted him. If Danyelle's husband had dealt with the problem when given numerous other opportunities to do so, then this wouldn't be an issue. Arkansas would no longer have reason to care about Devo and his antics.
I'm sure someone will correct me, but I don't ever recall a player walking off from Nolan's teams and getting to come right back with no repercussions.
It's hard to coach these days, I get it. But Devo has been more trouble than he was worth for a long time before these rumors ever hit the streets. Should have been dealt with a long time ago.
Zero truth to the rumor that not all the players on the team are gay
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2024, 09:31 PMThink I found the culprit.
https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks (https://www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2020/4/5/21208418/kc-cross-queer-arkansas-razorbacks)
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/support-staff/kc-cross/
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 31, 2024, 07:58 AMhttps://arkansasrazorbacks.com/support-staff/kc-cross/
Wonder how many other schools have someone on payroll just to provide counseling to the gays?
Quote from: animal on Jan 31, 2024, 06:20 AMI'm confused on who is They...I'm only reading about one homo. Is there an entire team of homos corrupting our teams with their mental health care?
So, some in today's society prefer the they /them pronouns vs he/him or she/her. Anyway, I'm sure you knew that.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 31, 2024, 06:53 AMAnd 'sup with Pinion?
(https://i.ibb.co/5FTv34w/IMG-5008.png)
He's dating Karley Johnson from WBB, BTW. FYI.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 07:55 AMDanyelle can shut her trap. These rumors kicked off because a senior and so-called team leader walked off from the team right before one of the biggest games of the year. He did it last year too and he tried to portal out but no one wanted him. If Danyelle's husband had dealt with the problem when given numerous other opportunities to do so, then this wouldn't be an issue. Arkansas would no longer have reason to care about Devo and his antics.
I'm sure someone will correct me, but I don't ever recall a player walking off from Nolan's teams and getting to come right back with no repercussions.
It's hard to coach these days, I get it. But Devo has been more trouble than he was worth for a long time before these rumors ever hit the streets. Should have been dealt with a long time ago.
So you're ok with adults questioning their 8th grade daughter about this stuff?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 08:06 AMSo you're ok with adults questioning their 8th grade daughter about this stuff?
No. Was kinda hoping/expecting that didn't actually happen.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 08:06 AMSo you're ok with adults questioning their 8th grade daughter about this stuff?
Yeah, that didn't happen but if it did, I expect that it was more about the rumors that her husband is desperately looking for a way out of town.
She may have gotten some razzing from classmates. Highly doubt any adult has said anything to her.
I would imagine it's other kids at school asking her about it.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 08:22 AMShe may have gotten some razzing from classmates. Highly doubt any adult has said anything to her.
Some adults hit up her Instagram DM's. Ridiculous.
Well, an 8th grader shouldn't be on social media.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Jan 31, 2024, 08:50 AMSome adults hit up her Instagram DM's. Ridiculous.
Muss haters will "debunk" it by saying it's not true
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 31, 2024, 08:01 AMWonder how many other schools have someone on payroll just to provide counseling to the gays?
Probably not in the actual job description, they add that part in after hiring.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 08:52 AMWell, an 8th grader shouldn't be on social media.
So, it's their daughter's fault that she's getting harassed on social media by ADULTS because you think an 8th grader shouldn't be social media?
Got it.
In 31 minutes, this is the journey we traveled on WooPig:
- It didn't happen
- It was just kids at school
- There were adults who confronted her about it on social media
- It is her fault for being on social media (coming from someone with ZERO kids)
The new WooPig sucks
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 08:58 AMIn 31 minutes, this is the journey we traveled on WooPig:
- It didn't happen
- It was just kids at school
- There were adults who confronted her about it on social media
- It is her fault for being on social media (coming from someone with ZERO kids)
The new WooPig sucks
Would it be better if we light someone on fire?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 31, 2024, 08:59 AMWould it be better if we light someone on fire?
We can start by turning off HTL's water.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Jan 31, 2024, 08:57 AMSo, it's their daughter's fault that she's getting harassed on social media by ADULTS because you think an 8th grader shouldn't be social media?
Got it.
I would say it's the parents fault. And who's to say it isn't Mizzou creeps in disguise? This type of shit happens everywhere.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 09:02 AMWe can start by turning off HTL's water.
After we turn off your pacemaker. But only for a moment.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 09:02 AMWe can start by turning off HTL's water.
We shouldn't punish his parents for the sins of their son though...
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jan 31, 2024, 09:04 AMWe shouldn't punish his parents for the sins of their son though...
chortle
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 08:06 AMSo you're ok with adults questioning their 8th grade daughter about this stuff?
She didn't say adults. "people have resorted to asking my 8th grader"
My first impression was other kids at school. Kids are people, too.
Harassed is a big word. Do we know that their 14 year old is being harassed?
Seems a normal parent would sit their kid down and explain that there are jackasses in this world and the kid should just ignore it.
I guess going on social media to scold people, 99% of which have nothing to do with the topic, is the better parenting approach and doesn't flame the fire at all.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jan 31, 2024, 09:04 AMWe shouldn't punish his parents for the sins of their son though...
:maundoed:
Quote from: woodhog14 on Jan 31, 2024, 08:57 AMSo, it's their daughter's fault that she's getting harassed on social media by ADULTS because you think an 8th grader shouldn't be social media?
Got it.
It ain't right but social media don't care. This is the world we live in.
Suggest block open access and limit to friends/contacts.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 31, 2024, 09:45 AMHarassed is a big word. Do we know that their 14 year old is being harassed?
Seems a normal parent would sit their kid down and explain that there are jackasses in this world and the kid should just ignore it.
I guess going on social media to scold people, 99% of which have nothing to do with the topic, is the better parenting approach and doesn't flame the fire at all.
WooPig: Believe EVERY conspiracy theory out there
Also WooPig: We don't agree with this one, so are we sure it is true?
Any players have NIL deals with Descovy yet?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 10:23 AMWooPig: Believe EVERY conspiracy theory out there
Also WooPig: We don't agree with this one, so are we sure it is true?
That is a grossly unfair take. While that may be true for less than 5 posters around here, I think I've demonstrated that I don't believe EVERY conspiracy theory out there.
And, Mrs. Muss didn't say she was being harassed. One of our fine posters used that word.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 31, 2024, 09:41 AMShe didn't say adults. "people have resorted to asking my 8th grader"
My first impression was other kids at school. Kids are people, too.
Having taught Jr High in my life, I would not say 8th graders are people. No one likes 8th graders. It is something both the adults and the kids have to survive through.
Go woke. Go broke.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 08:58 AMIn 31 minutes, this is the journey we traveled on WooPig:
- It didn't happen
- It was just kids at school
- There were adults who confronted her about it on social media
- It is her fault for being on social media (coming from someone with ZERO kids)
The new WooPig sucks
You should probably leave then.
Fucking Gayzorbacks.
I hope those idiots in Missouri heckle the hell out of them.
Quote from: mde114 on Jan 31, 2024, 11:16 AMFucking Gayzorbacks.
I hope those idiots in Missouri heckle the hell out of them.
We will have players quit if they do. Our team is mentally weak.
If Brazile plays, we may have a brawl.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 11:45 AMIf Brazile plays, we may have a brawl.
Hope he has his hair colored flaming red tonight!
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 11:45 AMIf Brazile plays, we may have a brawl.
:rofl: bullshit
I feel bad about all my criticisms of last years team. Can you imagine a bunch of 18 year olds walking into a situation like this?
Quote from: mde114 on Jan 31, 2024, 11:50 AMI feel bad about all my criticisms of last years team. Can you imagine a bunch of 18 year olds walking into a situation like this?
imagine once in the court the shit talking by Missouri that's gonna happen just to throw their game off
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 31, 2024, 10:35 AMThat is a grossly unfair take.
That is what leftist twats do (while believing ridiculous bullshit if cnn says so.
We'll probably find out eventually that this has been the worst kept secret in basketball and was probably a contributing factor to all the chippiness last year and some of Devo's flagrant fouls this year. Opposing players were probably throwing out the slurs and talk right and left.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 12:18 PMWe'll probably find out eventually that this has been the worst kept secret in basketball and was probably a contributing factor to all the chippiness last year and some of Devo's flagrant fouls this year. Opposing players were probably throwing out the slurs and talk right and left.
What chippiness are you talking about exactly? Just Black talking shit like he had since he stepped foot on campus?
Wasn't the word that the Auburn player used at Devo on an Auburn score the "F" word? Not the F word with a U as the next letter but the one that has an A as the second letter. The one used as a shortcut playground slur toward homosexuals. It earned the Tiger an immediate technical.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 31, 2024, 10:35 AMThat is a grossly unfair take. While that may be true for less than 5 posters around here, I think I've demonstrated that I don't believe EVERY conspiracy theory out there.
And, Mrs. Muss didn't say she was being harassed. One of our fine posters used that word.
You are correct and I apologize for looping you in with the loons.
Quote from: jethro on Jan 31, 2024, 12:59 PMWasn't the word that the Auburn player used at Devo on an Auburn score the "F" word? Not the F word with a U as the next letter but the one that has an A as the second letter. The one used as a shortcut playground slur toward homosexuals. It earned the Tiger an immediate technical.
Damn, are you that scared to just type the word?
https://x.com/jacobscottdavis/status/1752764533653794854?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
That would reopen UCLA....
I wouldn't trust a word Jacob Davis writes. He has no "source." He writes for that SI rag.
It's locked in my mind that there was a story of someone on the team getting into altercation last season and then word came out that a player on another team used a gay slur toward one of our players. I can't remember who of course (Devo) but yes it's in there somewhere. I was thinking @Mizzou but maybe it was against Auburn.
It wasn't just Black running his cum dumpster last season either...over half the team was talking shit every time the camera was on them.
Back to the gay slur stuff...these are kids. When I was a kid we used derogatory terms that would apparently be wrong to use today but we didn't really think some retarded fuck was actually a gay. It just made us feel better about ourselves and afterall isn't that what life is all about?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 01:14 PMDamn, are you that scared to just type the word?
Well, kinda bending a rule and sending from work. That word might flag to be looked at. Don't need the hassle.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 30, 2024, 09:15 PMIt sounds exactly like something he would say he knew. Check your PMs.
He's Bluffing.
If he's the one who posted it I give it even less credence than before.
All these kids played AAU ball together and stay in contact through texts and everything else. If a guy was gay or anything else, half the kids in college basketball will know about it tomorrow.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 01:58 PMAll these kids played AAU ball together and stay in contact through texts and everything else. If a guy was gay or anything else, half the kids in college basketball will know about it tomorrow.
there are probably other gay players
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 01:54 PMHe's Bluffing.
If he's the one who posted it I give it even less credence than before.
What are the chances we have three or more gay guys on a D1 basketball team? I'd say slim to none.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 31, 2024, 01:37 PMThat would reopen UCLA....
Gee, thanks. I know what the curse is going to do now. Beard to Louisville, muss to UCLA.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 31, 2024, 02:06 PMWhat are the chances we have three or more gay guys on a D1 basketball team? I'd say slim to none.
Exactly what I was thinking. Gays are like 5% of the population, yet 25% to 33% of our men's team?
I'd be shocked if at least one of them doesn't turn out to be gay. I'd be even more shocked if 3-4 of them were. You would almost have to be actively recruiting that specific demographic to end up with that many.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 02:19 PMExactly what I was thinking. Gays are like 5% of the population, yet 25% to 33% of our men's team?
I'd be shocked if at least one of them doesn't turn out to be gay. I'd be even more shocked if 3-4 of them were. You would almost have to be actively recruiting that specific demographic to end up with that many.
Well, that's kind of how it works. Word gets out that we are a friendly place for that sort of thing and guys hit the portal looking to come here. I could even see a coach thinking that openness and tolerance was a recruiting advantage.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 31, 2024, 02:06 PMWhat are the chances we have three or more gay guys on a D1 basketball team? I'd say slim to none.
Been saying that the last two days
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 02:19 PMYou would almost have to be actively recruiting that specific demographic to end up with that many.
I really believe we are going to find out that is exactly what happened. You don't get that many by accident.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 02:25 PMWell, that's kind of how it works. Word gets out that we are a friendly place for that sort of thing and guys hit the portal looking to come here. I could even see a coach thinking that openness and tolerance was a recruiting advantage.
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Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 02:25 PMWell, that's kind of how it works. Word gets out that we are a friendly place for that sort of thing and guys hit the portal looking to come here. I could even see a coach thinking that openness and tolerance was a recruiting advantage.
Possibly, but if that was the case wouldn't we have seen an exodus of straight players who were grossed out by that shit? We haven't lost anyone in the last year who wasn't either a fairly high draft pick or wasn't going to play much if any.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 02:25 PMWell, that's kind of how it works. Word gets out that we are a friendly place for that sort of thing and guys hit the portal looking to come here. I could even see a coach thinking that openness and tolerance was a recruiting advantage.
If your head coach was a left wing wacko, yep. Didn't somebody post the other day that our coach was extremely liberal, like cali liberal
Good grief. Please keep your political dumbassedness in the political thread.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 02:34 PMPossibly, but if that was the case wouldn't we have seen an exodus of straight players who were grossed out by that shit? We haven't lost anyone in the last year who wasn't either a fairly high draft pick or wasn't going to play much if any.
NSJ definitely had some gay tendencies. Weren't there some on the team last year that painted their nails?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 02:34 PMPossibly, but if that was the case wouldn't we have seen an exodus of straight players who were grossed out by that shit? We haven't lost anyone in the last year who wasn't either a fairly high draft pick or wasn't going to play much if any.
Maybe. I mean I don't know why people have left, do you? One reason it is out is because allegedly players are texting recruits about it and telling them not to come here. So it probably bothers some of them. But I imagine that others just keep quiet about it for fear of being branded a bigot and others just don't think that much about it. Kids are different now. I mean from the team point of view, it isn't so much that they are gay, but that it is is allegedly a gay love triangle within the team that is messing up team chemistry.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 02:39 PMNSJ definitely had some gay tendencies. Weren't there some on the team last year that painted their nails?
Pinion and Devo, the fingernail painters, were both on the team last year. So, yes. Congrats Sherlock. You have cracked the case.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 02:39 PMGood grief. Please keep your political dumbassedness in the political thread.
EABBD
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 02:39 PMNSJ definitely had some gay tendencies. Weren't there some on the team last year that painted their nails?
now you're just making shit up
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 02:41 PMPinion and Devo, the fingernail painters, were both on the team last year. So, yes. Congrats Sherlock. You have cracked the case.
Sorry I don't keep up with men painting their nails like you do.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jan 31, 2024, 02:41 PMnow you're just making shit up
Am I? He seemed pretty soft.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 02:36 PMIf your head coach was a left wing wacko, yep. Didn't somebody post the other day that our coach was extremely liberal, like cali liberal
I'm not sure why this is a shock to some people that the coach leans left or is woke or whatever label we choose to use here. Of course he is. I would anticipate anyone associated with basketball either in the nba or college would indeed lean a bit to the left.
That's not to say there wouldn't be exceptions to that, but I don't know that there is one right winger head coach I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure they are out there but they probably keep their opinions to themselves since being a right winger these days apparently means you are also a member of the klan.
Oh and to the other guy that gets offended when anything spills out into the open board that may be political. This happens in the real world as it does on social media. We do not live in a bubble. I do not feel the need to defend my position of how I lean politically and don't look to get offended by any and everything.
With that in mind yaw please keep politics out of sports...
Quote from: animal on Jan 31, 2024, 02:55 PMI'm not sure why this is a shock to some people that the coach leans left or is woke or whatever label we choose to use here. Of course he is. I would anticipate anyone associated with basketball either in the nba or college would indeed lean a bit to the left.
That's not to say there wouldn't be exceptions to that, but I don't know that there is one right winger head coach I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure they are out there but they probably keep their opinions to themselves since being a right winger these days apparently means you are also a member of the klan.
Oh and to the other guy that gets offended when anything spills out into the open board that may be political. This happens in the real world as it does on social media. We do not live in a bubble. I do not feel the need to defend my position of how I lean politically and don't look to get offended by any and everything.
With that in mind yaw please keep politics out of sports...
Didn't mean to interject politics into this discussion, but it seemed relevant in this case.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 31, 2024, 01:54 PMHe's Bluffing.
If he's the one who posted it I give it even less credence than before.
I see what you did there. Yes, if it is the same guy, I know him well. Old fraternity brother.
Quote from: jdcatty on Jan 31, 2024, 03:02 PMI see what you did there. Yes, if it is the same guy, I know him well. Old fraternity brother.
HiM
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 11:45 AMIf Brazile plays, we may have a brawl.
It'll make Todd Days "swing" look like a Tyson right hook.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 02:59 PMDidn't mean to interject politics into this discussion, but it seemed relevant in this case.
I like you. You've shown some balls and we need some new blood around here.
So I want to help you out. Don't ever apologize on this board. Ever.
If you think about apologizing slap yourself in the face. Then do it again until the feeling passes, come back here and tell everyone to fuck off.
Because we all deserve it and that's the only thing this board respects.
You're gonna be just fine.
Apologizing is a sign of weakness. Never do it.
This place is like prison. You gotta jump the first motherfucker you see.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 02:39 PMMaybe. I mean I don't know why people have left, do you? One reason it is out is because allegedly players are texting recruits about it and telling them not to come here.
Yeah, you need to show your work on this one.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 04:22 PMThis place is like prison. You gotta jump the first motherfucker you see.
May not be the best analogy to use considering the current subject matter.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Jan 31, 2024, 04:22 PMYeah, you need to show your work on this one.
I don't need to show shit. I didn't send it, I'm not vouching for it, and I said "allegedly" because it may well be a bunch of bullshit. Go back to Tardville with that bullshit.
Quote from: red death on Jan 31, 2024, 04:14 PMI like you. You've shown some balls and we need some new blood around here.
So I want to help you out. Don't ever apologize on this board. Ever.
If you think about apologizing slap yourself in the face. Then do it again until the feeling passes, come back here and tell everyone to fuck off.
Because we all deserve it and that's the only thing this board respects.
You're gonna be just fine.
He isn't new. He's an alter ego
Now who believes in conspiracy theories???😂
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jan 31, 2024, 04:22 PMThis place is like prison. You gotta jump the first motherfucker you see.
You got turned out on your first fucking day.
Quote from: red death on Jan 31, 2024, 04:14 PMI like you. You've shown some balls and we need some new blood around here.
So I want to help you out. Don't ever apologize on this board. Ever.
If you think about apologizing slap yourself in the face. Then do it again until the feeling passes, come back here and tell everyone to fuck off.
Because we all deserve it and that's the only thing this board respects.
You're gonna be just fine.
We'll see, usaf hawg and trigger think they are heavyweights and are gunnin for me. Should I be worried?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Jan 31, 2024, 06:11 PMWe'll see, usaf hawg and trigger think they are heavyweights and are gunnin for me. Should I be worried?
I'm not gunning for you. Mainly just laughing at you. On the bright side, you haven't reached TWB crazy yet.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 06:26 PMI'm not gunning for you. Mainly just laughing at you. On the bright side, you haven't reached TWB crazy yet.
Please, I'm at least two standards of deviation more intelligent than you. You work for the government. De facto, you're the dumbest and most worthless motherfucker on this board.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 06:26 PMI'm not gunning for you. Mainly just laughing at you. On the bright side, you haven't reached TWB crazy yet.
EABBD
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 31, 2024, 06:26 PMI'm not gunning for you. Mainly just laughing at you. On the bright side, you haven't reached TWB crazy yet.
TWB is our version of Alex Jones
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jan 31, 2024, 06:47 PMTWB is our version of Alex Jones
Put a quarter in the jar. It's already mostly full.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jan 31, 2024, 06:47 PMTWB is our version of Alex Jones
The water is turning the Hogs gay!
Yesterday it was Mark who got in between the love birds but today it's Graham?
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Jan 31, 2024, 07:22 PMYesterday it was Mark who got in between the love birds but today it's Graham?
The troubling thing here is you can pick a guy on this team and it doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 31, 2024, 07:20 PMThe water is turning the Hogs gay!
it's probably the fluoride
Quote from: animal on Jan 31, 2024, 07:25 PMThe troubling thing here is you can pick a guy on this team and it doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
wtf do any of you guys know about homosexual men, what they would or wouldn't do, say, look like ect. I'm shocked you fuckers aren't holding a prayer meeting for their souls at this point
Every real man is equipped with a psychological gaydar. We can always tell.
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How pissed would you be if you were Mark or Graham and your name is being thrown around when you had nothing to do with this shit?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 06:43 PMPlease, I'm at least two standards of deviation more intelligent than you. You work for the government. De facto, you're the dumbest and most worthless motherfucker on this board.
I'm smart enough to be the laser shooter and not the shootee, so I have that going for me.
Did the Gayzorbacks say hold my beer and go full rectangle? That's so progressive. keepin Fayetteville funky y'all
I'm disappointed the players are not wearing rainbow arm bands in honor of Devo.
Hopefully these guys came together as a team.
I thought that #15 might be gay.
Can't remember if that's Makhi Mitchell, Melvin Mitchell, or Melvin Belli.
Quote from: animal on Jan 31, 2024, 07:25 PMThe troubling thing here is you can pick a guy on this team and it doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
Someone was more of a stretch than another, and I think that's the problem
Quote from: animal on Jan 31, 2024, 07:36 PMHopefully these guys came together as a team.
gonna need some extra towels
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jan 31, 2024, 07:26 PMI'm shocked you fuckers aren't holding a prayer meeting for their souls at this point
Why would we do something like that?
Quote from: obijuana on Jan 31, 2024, 07:38 PMI thought that #15 might be gay.
Can't remember if that's Makhi Mitchell, Melvin Mitchell, or Melvin Belli.
last year when they all wore pink I just assumed it was cause Walsh had cancer not alopecia
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jan 31, 2024, 07:42 PMlast year when they all wore pink I just assumed it was cause Walsh had cancer not alopecia
You get a :this_is_woopig: for that
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 31, 2024, 07:29 PMEvery real man is equipped with a psychological gaydar. We can always tell.
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True
NM
I'd forgotten...Pretty much any big man looks good taking into the lane against Vanover.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 31, 2024, 04:54 PMI don't need to show shit. I didn't send it, I'm not vouching for it, and I said "allegedly" because it may well be a bunch of bullshit. Go back to Tardville with that bullshit.
Never was at Tardville and been here longer than you, sport.
Your "alleged" info is bullshit, just like most of what you post.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 09:49 AMNever was at Tardville and been here longer than you, sport.
Your "alleged" info is bullshit, just like most of what you post.
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Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 31, 2024, 04:19 PMApologizing is a sign of weakness. Never do it.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry your parents sucked at raising you. I'm sorry that you're an idiot.
And lastly, I'm sorry I responded to your dumb ass. ;D ;)
Quote from: Rick B. on Feb 01, 2024, 10:44 AMI'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry your parents sucked at raising you. I'm sorry that you're an idiot.
And lastly, I'm sorry I responded to your dumb ass. ;D ;)
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Quote from: Rick B. on Feb 01, 2024, 10:44 AMI'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry your parents sucked at raising you. I'm sorry that you're an idiot.
And lastly, I'm sorry I responded to your dumb ass. ;D ;)
i thought you told everyone you were leaving the board, that it was too much, that you don't wanna deal with this place no more. Maybe you should apologize for lying
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 09:49 AMNever was at Tardville and been here longer than you, sport.
Your "alleged" info is bullshit, just like most of what you post.
Like I said, go back to Tardville.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 11:56 AMLike I said, go back to Tardville.
you sound like a fucktard
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 12:10 PMyou sound like a fucktard
What's your point, moron? Fact remains I wasn't bringing any new information. I wasn't claiming to bring any new information. I wasn't vouching for any information. I was merely commenting on information already posted on this board and other places.
Continue to white knight like some Tardville nerd.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 11:15 AMi thought you told everyone you were leaving the board, that it was too much, that you don't wanna deal with this place no more. Maybe you should apologize for lying
Slowly they all make their way back to Woopig mountain.
They come up behind the board with a sleazy hug and whisper "I can't quit you."
And to all the former board members who still lurk here in the shadows (and yes I know you're all here) that includes you too.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 12:17 PMWhat's your point, moron? Fact remains I wasn't bringing any new information. I wasn't claiming to bring any new information. I wasn't vouching for any information. I was merely commenting on information already posted on this board and other places.
Continue to white knight like some Tardville nerd.
whatever crazy old man
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 12:54 PMwhatever crazy old man
Not so old, and you know the only reason you stalk me is because you've been trying to get me to notice you. I'm sorry, but if you want me to bang you, you will have to post pics and see if you make the cut. If you do, I expect you to make yourself available for phone calls and follow up inquiries at all hours to see if you pass final muster and will be allowed into my inner sanctum.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 01:01 PMNot so old, and you know the only reason you stalk me is because you've been trying to get me to notice you. I'm sorry, but if you want me to bang you, you will have to post pics and see if you make the cut. If you do, I expect you to make yourself available for phone calls and follow up inquiries at all hours to see if you pass final muster and will be allowed into my inner sanctum.
you're about as delusional as HTL. 🙄
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 01:34 PMyou're about as delusional as HTL. 🙄
Baby, I'll take some extra Male Superstack Vitality if you pass muster. I know it's a long approval process, but it's worth your while.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 12:54 PMwhatever crazy old man
Crazy old man is MY schtick.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 12:17 PMWhat's your point, moron? Fact remains I wasn't bringing any new information. I wasn't claiming to bring any new information. I wasn't vouching for any information. I was merely commenting on information already posted on this board and other places.
Continue to white knight like some Tardville nerd.
There was nothing of the sort already posted here, it was a post to make it seem like you had some inside knowledge, which was just some made up bullshit. LIKE I SAID, show your work by posting a link or quit making up shit. No one of any significance is telling recruits or portal players not to come here.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 02:58 PMThere was nothing of the sort already posted here, it was a post to make it seem like you had some inside knowledge, which was just some made up bullshit. LIKE I SAID, show your work by posting a link or quit making up shit. No one of any significance is telling recruits or portal players not to come here.
this will really raise his blood pressure. Are you trying to mill him.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 02:58 PMThere was nothing of the sort already posted here, it was a post to make it seem like you had some inside knowledge, which was just some made up bullshit. LIKE I SAID, show your work by posting a link or quit making up shit. No one of any significance is telling recruits or portal players not to come here.
My gosh you are tedious dipshit. Post #743 in this very thread posted by none other than self described super fan Rick B contained all the allegations INCLUDING current players texting recruits.
None of which I claimed to have any special knowledge about, vouch for, or describe as anything other than speculation.
Now once again, take that Tardville white knighting bullshit and stick it up your ass.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 30, 2024, 06:49 PMThis is making the rounds. IMG_3536.jpg
Here it is.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 03:00 PMthis will really raise his blood pressure. Are you trying to mill him.
That's your specialty, I'll stay in my lane. ;D
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 03:14 PMMy gosh you are tedious dipshit. Post #743 in this very thread posted by none other than self described super fan Rick B contained all the allegations INCLUDING current players texting recruits.
None of which I claimed to have any special knowledge about, vouch for, or describe as anything other than speculation.
Now once again, take that Tardville white knighting bullshit and stick it up your ass.
So badass you are. I bet your keyboard is just smoking as you type in anger while yelling for your mom to bring you down another sandwich.
That screenshot as already been debunked, but go ahead and keep adding to the unsubstantiated rumors.
Go seek help.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 01, 2024, 03:00 PMthis will really raise his blood pressure. Are you trying to mill him.
Baby, you don't need to try so hard. It's kind of unattractive and you're falling down the list.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 03:18 PMSo badass you are. I bet your keyboard is just smoking as you type in anger while yelling for your mom to bring you down another sandwich.
That screenshot as already been debunked, but go ahead and keep adding to the unsubstantiated rumors.
Go seek help.
Okay, if you say it's been debunked I'm not arguing with you, but it's on this board and we've been discussing it. And I didn't post it first and never claimed it was true. You're either about fifteen years old or you're Danyelle, so take the L and go back to Tardville.
So hey, we won last night, how do y'all think the rest of the season will go?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 03:21 PMOkay, if you say it's been debunked I'm not arguing with you, but it's on this board and we've been discussing it. And I didn't post it first and never claimed it was true. You're either about fifteen years old or you're Danyelle, so take the L and go back to Tardville.
You seem awful obsessed with Tardville. And all you can do is name call.
You started this by getting super defensive about me asking you to show proof of players telling recruits not to come here. If that screen shot is your proof, then I'll concede and give you that, even if it is probably not true.
Seriously, go seek help.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 01, 2024, 03:24 PMSo hey, we won last night, how do y'all think the rest of the season will go?
A nice moment, but Mizzou sucks.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 03:30 PMYou seem awful obsessed with Tardville. And all you can do is name call.
You started this by getting super defensive about me asking you to show proof of players telling recruits not to come here. If that screen shot is your proof, then I'll concede and give you that, even if it is probably not true.
Seriously, go seek help.
Fuck you. I literally didn't owe your retarded ass shit. Pay attention to the threads. I'm not some bitch who is going to post a link because some retard wants to jump on and make a point, especially when it's a few pages back up in the very thread we're in.
And it's not being super defensive. It's called WOOPIG you dumb bitch.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 03:34 PMFuck you. I literally didn't owe your retarded ass shit. Pay attention to the threads. I'm not some bitch who is going to post a link because some retard wants to jump on and make a point, especially when it's a few pages back up in the very thread we're in.
And it's not being super defensive. It's called WOOPIG you dumb bitch.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 01, 2024, 04:03 PM:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Laugh it up, but take the L.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 01, 2024, 04:04 PMLaugh it up, but take the L.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
W
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 01, 2024, 03:24 PMSo hey, we won last night, how do y'all think the rest of the season will go?
I want to unexpectedly kick someone's ass.
https://twitter.com/nocontexthogs/status/1753110263375495652?s=46&t=1gbBzfTq0vLiKQ0r9WU7dQ
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Quote from: vegashog on Feb 01, 2024, 05:02 PMhttps://twitter.com/nocontexthogs/status/1753110263375495652?s=46&t=1gbBzfTq0vLiKQ0r9WU7dQ
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This should be in the WTF thread.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C20xOicvBDX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Wrights BBQ been waiting on this shit all season
Quote from: RedRiverHog on Feb 01, 2024, 06:17 PMThis should be in the WTF thread.
you realize they are making fun of the rumors, don't you?
Quote from: vegashog on Feb 01, 2024, 06:33 PMyou realize they are making fun of the rumors, don't you?
Well, maybe not. I was too busy trying to pin down the far of humanity.
I don't know what's gayer. Muss' Kansas City Faggorts or the last couple of pages of this thread.
So anyway, does last nights ass tickling of Mizzou mean that we've got our shit together or what?
Quote from: obijuana on Feb 01, 2024, 07:11 PMI don't know what's gayer. Muss' Kansas City Faggorts or the last couple of pages of this thread.
So anyway, does last nights ass tickling of Mizzou mean that we've got our shit together or what?
negative ghost rider. Mizzou is hammered dog shit. The fact we let them crawl back to less than double digits means we are too.
What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?
Quote from: red death on Feb 02, 2024, 08:47 PMWhat in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?
Somebody's gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes....
Assuming that most of this is just conjecture.......cannot believe how bad Mizzou is this year.......Gates does a good job.....I guess the same could be said about the Hogs and Muss
I know picking on our "writers" is low hanging fruit, but this reads like something my 13 year old would have put out... 4 years ago.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-eric-musselman-lsu-tigers-sec
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Feb 03, 2024, 10:32 AMI know picking on our "writers" is low hanging fruit, but this reads like something my 13 year old would have put out... 4 years ago.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-eric-musselman-lsu-tigers-sec
the amount of sentence structure and grammatical errors is unbelievable.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Feb 03, 2024, 10:32 AMI know picking on our "writers" is low hanging fruit, but this reads like something my 13 year old would have put out... 4 years ago.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-eric-musselman-lsu-tigers-sec
This Hodges guy must be using AI to write his articles. No wonder SI is going bankrupt.
I read another one from the illustrious Kent Smith on a Craig O'Neil, who apparently coined, "That's another Arkansas-First Down," is apathetic to Arkansas sports. Retard written article as well.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-news/craig-oneill-should-concern-razorbacks-hunter-yurachek
20 point losses per season. Gotta go back to 2012 for the last time we lost 4 by 20. I'm sure there are more to come.
2023-2024 - 4 with at least 10 more games left to play.
2022-2023 - 1 to the eventual national champs
2021-2022 - 1
2020-2021 - 1
2019-2020 - 1
2018-2019 - 1
2017-2018 - 3
2016-2017 - 2
2015-2016 - 2
2014-2015 - 0
2013-2014 - 1
2012-2013 - 2
2011-2012 - 4
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 03, 2024, 11:19 AMthe amount of sentence structure and grammatical errors is unbelievable.
Butcut Hodges has never exactly been a wordsmith except when it comes to mouf sexin HDN.
Some Master of the Obvious bullshit, but among all the bad things about this team, the worst is we don't have a point guard. We don't have anyone you can put the ball in his hands and say, run the offense. Do we have an offense he could run anyway? But, no one to be the guy to tell everyone else what to do, pointing around with the ball in his hands. That position is completely non-existent on this team.
At the time, trying to make Devo into a point guard seemed pretty stupid. In retrospect, it seems like the goddamned dumbest thing I have ever witnessed.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 03, 2024, 10:08 PMSome Master of the Obvious bullshit, but among all the bad things about this team, the worst is we don't have a point guard. We don't have anyone you can put the ball in his hands and say, run the offense. Do we have an offense he could run anyway? But, no one to be the guy to tell everyone else what to do, pointing around with the ball in his hands. That position is completely non-existent on this team.
At the time, trying to make Devo into a point guard seemed pretty stupid. In retrospect, it seems like the goddamned dumbest thing I have ever witnessed.
Obvi. Devo is a natural catcher.
I don't know that I've ever really liked the Muss offense but it almost kinda made sense when we had Notae, Joe, and Jones running it. We would get up on teams, win the foul game, make our free throws, and go iso and there just wasn't much teams could do. That led to us getting better and better and end-game situations later in the season.
That team with Whitt, Smith, Williams, Notae, and Moody was probably our best offense and it struggled shooting the ball for much of the season. Seems to be a common theme with Muss teams, we blamed it on hard practices and defensive focus but maybe it was just shitty/lazy coaching. Last season's team was a total shit show but was over came because those guys did have raw ability and NBA talent...something you can't say about a swinging dick on this current team. Graham I could see playing overseas but he's never sniffing an NBA roster. Blocker has a very long ways away, shows flashes but something just isn't clicking with him...not so sure Ford wasn't better than him.
This entire team this season just smacks of hubris from both the coaches and probably the players. There's been zero efforts made toward developing kids thru the program and 100% effort on flipping the roster each and every year. We can talk about the modern realities and all that and I get it but I'm seeing other programs retain guys so don't tell me it can't be done. The players have to show up and be ready to go and we seemed to have a bunch of guys that weren't shooting the ball very well. Guys hadn't really sorted out how they would go together and a lot of that shit in the old days would have been sorted out among the boys on the court during the summer. We're deep into the season and just now barely starting to see that Mitchell and Graham are the "leaders" more by inheritance rather than earning it.
You see better, more coordinated basketball by the thugs playing in the city parks.
Quote from: animal on Feb 04, 2024, 07:42 AMI don't know that I've ever really liked the Muss offense but it almost kinda made sense when we had Notae, Joe, and Jones running it. We would get up on teams, win the foul game, make our free throws, and go iso and there just wasn't much teams could do. That led to us getting better and better and end-game situations later in the season.
That team with Whitt, Smith, Williams, Notae, and Moody was probably our best offense and it struggled shooting the ball for much of the season. Seems to be a common theme with Muss teams, we blamed it on hard practices and defensive focus but maybe it was just shitty/lazy coaching. Last season's team was a total shit show but was over came because those guys did have raw ability and NBA talent...something you can't say about a swinging dick on this current team. Graham I could see playing overseas but he's never sniffing an NBA roster. Blocker has a very long ways away, shows flashes but something just isn't clicking with him...not so sure Ford wasn't better than him.
This entire team this season just smacks of hubris from both the coaches and probably the players. There's been zero efforts made toward developing kids thru the program and 100% effort on flipping the roster each and every year. We can talk about the modern realities and all that and I get it but I'm seeing other programs retain guys so don't tell me it can't be done. The players have to show up and be ready to go and we seemed to have a bunch of guys that weren't shooting the ball very well. Guys hadn't really sorted out how they would go together and a lot of that shit in the old days would have been sorted out among the boys on the court during the summer. We're deep into the season and just now barely starting to see that Mitchell and Graham are the "leaders" more by inheritance rather than earning it.
Good post. It's hard to disagree with any of this. We've never been good on offense under Musselman. He hasn't developed any players since he has been here, mostly due to the fact that if you don't work out right away he just tells you to get lost. The guys on this team who have stayed in the "system" (Pinion, Mitchell, Devo, Graham, Brazile) have stayed the same or gotten worse. It doesn't help that guys who have left like KK Robinson and Darian Ford are having success elsewhere. I still like Muss and want him to stay but he obviously has some deficiencies as a coach.
Muss has gone to the sweet sixteen in 4 of his last 5 post seasons, this year is an anomaly. Not sure if all the gay locker room rumors are true but it's definitely a locker room problem of some sort.
Quote from: animal on Feb 04, 2024, 07:42 AMI don't know that I've ever really liked the Muss offense but it almost kinda made sense when we had Notae, Joe, and Jones running it. We would get up on teams, win the foul game, make our free throws, and go iso and there just wasn't much teams could do. That led to us getting better and better and end-game situations later in the season.
That team with Whitt, Smith, Williams, Notae, and Moody was probably our best offense and it struggled shooting the ball for much of the season. Seems to be a common theme with Muss teams, we blamed it on hard practices and defensive focus but maybe it was just shitty/lazy coaching. Last season's team was a total shit show but was over came because those guys did have raw ability and NBA talent...something you can't say about a swinging dick on this current team. Graham I could see playing overseas but he's never sniffing an NBA roster. Blocker has a very long ways away, shows flashes but something just isn't clicking with him...not so sure Ford wasn't better than him.
This entire team this season just smacks of hubris from both the coaches and probably the players. There's been zero efforts made toward developing kids thru the program and 100% effort on flipping the roster each and every year. We can talk about the modern realities and all that and I get it but I'm seeing other programs retain guys so don't tell me it can't be done. The players have to show up and be ready to go and we seemed to have a bunch of guys that weren't shooting the ball very well. Guys hadn't really sorted out how they would go together and a lot of that shit in the old days would have been sorted out among the boys on the court during the summer. We're deep into the season and just now barely starting to see that Mitchell and Graham are the "leaders" more by inheritance rather than earning it.
Whitt wasn't on that team. It was Jalen Tate.
Quote from: CardHog on Feb 04, 2024, 09:48 AMMuss has gone to the sweet sixteen in 4 of his last 5 post seasons, this year is an anomaly. Not sure if all the gay locker room rumors are true but it's definitely a locker room problem of some sort.
If we didn't beat Kansas without Bill Self last season after having a losing SEC record with four NBA players on the roster (three if you don't want to put NSJ in there) I wonder what people would be saying right now. A bad season is one thing, this is arguably the worst Razorback basketball season of my lifetime.
Last year was a drastically underperforming team. Easy to make excuses because of injury and the win over Kansas in the end, but the season itself was shit. Then this year. We appear to definitely be trending in a direction that isn't good.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 04, 2024, 09:53 AMA bad season is one thing, this is arguably the worst Razorback basketball season of my lifetime.
You weren't born until after 2009?
I for one have never actually "liked" Muss's offense. It's basically just pass the ball around till someone gets a good one-on-one matchup, and then drive. Take the open shot if that comes up before the driving opportunity. But he has been successful the last few years, so it is hard to complain.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Feb 04, 2024, 10:24 AMYou weren't born until after 2009?
I said arguably. And this team is certainly right down there with the 2008-2009 team.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 04, 2024, 09:06 AMYou see better, more coordinated basketball by the thugs playing in the city parks.
All you had to say was "guys" or "dudes" or anything. But nope.
Quote from: MashedPotatoes on Feb 04, 2024, 11:50 AMAll you had to say was "guys" or "dudes" or anything. But nope.
Maybe I was talking about women. But you go ahead and assume anything you want.
Quote from: MashedPotatoes on Feb 04, 2024, 11:50 AMAll you had to say was "guys" or "dudes" or anything. But nope.
Meh. Chances are he is probably more right than wrong.
I guess I'm a thug.
Was gonna say that "four games in four days" is the only way to get in, but damn, when (not if) we finish from 11 to 14, that's five games in five days. That's impossible to do I think.
Only Mizzou and Vandy likely to finish below us it now appears.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 04, 2024, 12:50 PMI guess I'm a thug.
I live in Memphis. There is a difference.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 04, 2024, 12:51 PMI live in Memphis. There is a difference.
I played Sunday afternoons at the Halle Park courts off Mt Moriah Park. Also played leagues at Davis Community Center. This was in the late 90's.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 04, 2024, 01:05 PMI played Sunday afternoons at the Halle Park courts off Mt Moriah Park. Also played leagues at Davis Community Center. This was in the late 90's.
It's OK. We are all thugs to a degree. ;D
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 04, 2024, 10:46 AMI for one have never actually "liked" Muss's offense. It's basically just pass the ball around till someone gets a good one-on-one matchup, and then drive. Take the open shot if that comes up before the driving opportunity. But he has been successful the last few years, so it is hard to complain.
how is it any different than the Mike Anderson offense honestly?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 04, 2024, 01:24 PMIt's OK. We are all thugs to a degree. ;D
We've all had our moments. The places I've played ball in Memphis and LR it's amazing I'm here to talk about it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 04, 2024, 01:34 PMWe've all had our moments. The places I've played ball in Memphis and LR it's amazing I'm here to talk about it.
I actually found a dead body in a park over here once. My point was that we need to get some guys like these who are muscled up, can go to the rim with force, and score. Some of the guys I have seen are pretty good.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 04, 2024, 01:46 PMI actually found a dead body in a park over here once. My point was that we need to get some guys like these who are muscled up, can go to the rim with force, and score. Some of the guys I have seen are pretty good.
Found? You know whoever finds it is often a top suspect.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 04, 2024, 01:05 PMI played Sunday afternoons at the Halle Park courts off Mt Moriah Park. Also played leagues at Davis Community Center. This was in the late 90's.
I played at The Saline County's Tyndall Park in the early 90s. Ain't nothing more thug than that Cap.
Early 90s I played on those courts that are under the interstate close to WLR on 630. I think it counts, based on some of the fights I saw there.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 04, 2024, 02:29 PMEarly 90s I played on those courts that are under the interstate close to WLR on 630. I think it counts, based on some of the fights I saw there.
Kanis Park. It was the most notorious one I knew about. I played a fair amount of softball there, but never ventured under the bridge.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 04, 2024, 02:18 PMI played at The Saline County's Tyndall Park in the early 90s. Ain't nothing more thug than that Cap.
I probably played against you
What's going on with Muss and Baye Fall where Muss would rather give Harris 11 minutes and watch him do nothing but pick up three fouls? Why did we even recruit Fall?
Quote from: BASS on Feb 04, 2024, 02:48 PMI probably played against you
I just played on the train
Quote from: BASS on Feb 04, 2024, 02:48 PMI probably played against you
There is video proof
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/UWt82Bt6eDrdaPzt/?mibextid=NpOjYg
Quote from: Usafhawg on Feb 04, 2024, 03:18 PMThere is video proof
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/UWt82Bt6eDrdaPzt/?mibextid=NpOjYg
Hate to know what you were looking at when you found that.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 04, 2024, 01:28 PMhow is it any different than the Mike Anderson offense honestly?
I didn't say it was different. I do think Mike (and Nolan's) offenses set more screens than Muss.
If Muss's team sets a screen, it is always a moving one.
things could get interesting this off-season. I hear aTm has Yurachek as one of the targets in their AD search. Not sure we can win a bidding war but then do you want to be in that culture?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Feb 04, 2024, 03:18 PMThere is video proof
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/UWt82Bt6eDrdaPzt/?mibextid=NpOjYg
Bryant highlights. Of course.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 04, 2024, 04:07 PMthings could get interesting this off-season. I hear aTm has Yurachek as one of the targets in their AD search. Not sure we can win a bidding war but then do you want to be in that culture?
Yeah we wouldn't have much of a chance if it is just money. But hopefully Yurachek and his family likes NWA. College Station is really a shitty town.
Devo back?
Quote from: Gambler on Feb 05, 2024, 07:12 PMDevo back?
Looks like it. I'm officially done with Muss. You don't let a guy who walks out on the team two years in a row come back.
What a joke.
Fuck this season. Wake me up when baseball starts.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 05, 2024, 07:25 PMFuck this season. Wake me up when baseball starts.
Softball starts Thursday at 1, baseball on 2/16. Bring it on.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 05, 2024, 07:18 PMLooks like it. I'm officially done with Muss. You don't let a guy who walks out on the team two years in a row come back.
OR we fans invented this narrative that he "just walked out". I never really have heard a good explanation for what happened either this season or last and at face value yes I'd say don't let him back but we aren't in the locker room, in the showers with other mens, you know that sort of thing and don't know what's been discussed.
Quote from: animal on Feb 05, 2024, 07:39 PMOR we fans invented this narrative that he "just walked out". I never really have heard a good explanation for what happened either this season or last and at face value yes I'd say don't let him back but we aren't in the locker room, in the showers with other mens, you know that sort of thing and don't know what's been discussed.
Well, if he got suspended from the team two years in a row, he doesn't need to be back.
Sure, why not....
wtf. Why is this kid back? Did he think he had aids but didn't and got a clean bill of health? Like wtf
Basketball is boring. Welcome to the circus instead.
The latest I heard, this is from a former player: Devo and Muss had a physical confrontation in the locker room, Devo is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and changed meds, Devo is in fact gay but everyone in the program has known that for three years and no one cares.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 05, 2024, 08:10 PMThe latest I heard, this is from a former player: Devo and Muss had a physical confrontation in the locker room, Devo is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and changed meds, Devo is in fact gay but everyone in the program has known that for three years and no one cares.
My goodness, someone who is bipolar will wreak havoc with any marriage, family, organization or whatever. Muss is absolutely at fault foe this mess.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 05, 2024, 08:10 PMThe latest I heard, this is from a former player: Devo and Muss had a physical confrontation in the locker room, Devo is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and changed meds, Devo is in fact gay but everyone in the program has known that for three years and no one cares.
Did he try to whup Muss's ass because they changed his meds or did they change his meds afterwards and he's all planed out and ready to go now?
Quote from: animal on Feb 05, 2024, 07:39 PMOR we fans invented this narrative that he "just walked out". I never really have heard a good explanation for what happened either this season or last and at face value yes I'd say don't let him back but we aren't in the locker room, in the showers with other mens, you know that sort of thing and don't know what's been discussed.
Are you saying he's really good at loofahing stretch marks?
DEI protected. You think you can just run a bipolar, black homosexual off a basketball team in 2024?
C'mon, man!
Like sands through the hourglass
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Fuck this clownshoes program. This is a joke right?
This is worse than the losing. It's hilarious to see on Twitter the usual media suspects telling us all to give this "brave survivor" a standing ovation next game.
Musselman is a cuck. Devo cucked his ass twice. I'll shove it up your ass midget and you'll take it.
Can't respect it. Sorry.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 05, 2024, 08:10 PMThe latest I heard, this is from a former player: Devo and Muss had a physical confrontation in the locker room, Devo is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and changed meds, Devo is in fact gay but everyone in the program has known that for three years and no one cares.
I picture it went down like this
OK-- I will take Jerome Tang.
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 05, 2024, 10:41 PMOK-- I will take Jerome Tang.
Why would he come here?
Quote from: Gambler on Feb 05, 2024, 10:51 PMWhy would he come here?
Well, someone else brought his name up, so I am not sure. But he may like to get out of the shadow of Bill Self.
The gay bi-polar angle is kinda working though. I can see it on both accounts because Devo has always been Jekyll and Mr Hyde on the court...stands to reason he's the same way off the court. If I'm not mistaken as people get older with that condition doesn't it become a bigger problem trying to manage them on the meds?
Anyway this entire season for me with Muss is a "pass"...if he has another turd like this next season then we'll be looking to hit the eject button. I'd rather he leave then we fire him because the media won't pass on the opportunity to call Arkansas fans crazy with too high expectations after all he did and they'll be halfway right.
I could see Muss being offered the Texas job when it opens and it might open after the season, but really the west coast jobs I think will be much more attractive to him. Muss' star has fallen but I don't know that it's fallen that far. This season of playing dead may not be entirely by accident...
Then again he's got a school age daughter or two that he may not want to move so this talk of him going anywhere may not be realistic. I think he cleans house on his staff though after the season either by his choice or someone upstairs helps him make it. After you lay a turd like this someone's head has to roll.
Also clearly this team for two years has had major chemistry issues. Anyone with eyes can see it. I wonder what could be the problem?
When you let a malcontent, petulant, quitter keep driving the drama you deserve to have a shitass team atmosphere. Bipolar, gay, autistic, narcoleptic, WTF-ever "disorder" people have, use it as a crutch to be an asshole or to rationalize poor behavior or expect preferential treatment because "I have issues". Guess what, everybody has issues.
That's a you issue.
If you can't manage to follow directions, run a designed set play, quit making bonehead erors, stay awake, show up on time, use Excel, etc,. then I need to find somebody who can. If it hurts your feelings and you get mad and stomp out because you throw tantrums because "I'm mad, you're mean for making me do something required by my job and you told me to do it," then by god you need to move on.
I let you back to work with the rest of the team after doing that not once, but twice? I'm not getting respect from anybody.
Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 06:37 AMThe gay bi-polar angle is kinda working though. I can see it on both accounts because Devo has always been Jekyll and Mr Hyde on the court...stands to reason he's the same way off the court. If I'm not mistaken as people get older with that condition doesn't it become a bigger problem trying to manage them on the meds?
Anyway this entire season for me with Muss is a "pass"...if he has another turd like this next season then we'll be looking to hit the eject button. I'd rather he leave then we fire him because the media won't pass on the opportunity to call Arkansas fans crazy with too high expectations after all he did and they'll be halfway right.
I could see Muss being offered the Texas job when it opens and it might open after the season, but really the west coast jobs I think will be much more attractive to him. Muss' star has fallen but I don't know that it's fallen that far. This season of playing dead may not be entirely by accident...
Then again he's got a school age daughter or two that he may not want to move so this talk of him going anywhere may not be realistic. I think he cleans house on his staff though after the season either by his choice or someone upstairs helps him make it. After you lay a turd like this someone's head has to roll.
Also clearly this team for two years has had major chemistry issues. Anyone with eyes can see it. I wonder what could be the problem?
any team would prob have issues if you're dealing with a bipolar crazy off his meds. Who wants to deal with that who's also the star of the team
Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 06:37 AMAlso clearly this team for two years has had major chemistry issues. Anyone with eyes can see it. I wonder what could be the problem?
Anytime you build a new pick up team every year from freshmen and spare parts, you're rolling the dice.
Even Cal, who molded the model, had a losing season a couple of years back and has laid a couple of other turds.
Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 06:37 AMI could see Muss being offered the Texas job when it opens and it might open after the season, but really the west coast jobs I think will be much more attractive to him. Muss' star has fallen but I don't know that it's fallen that far. This season of playing dead may not be entirely by accident...
No chance in Hell -- Texas is very unlikely to hire any coach from Arkansas, and certainly not one coming off a losing season.
Im at an Iowa State career fair recruiting engineers. The #14th ranked Cyclones take on Texas tonight. I guess this will be my team to root for this year.
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Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 06, 2024, 09:30 AMany team would prob have issues if you're dealing with a bipolar crazy off his meds. Who wants to deal with that who's also the star of the team
All the kids are on meds these days, and there ain't no pill that can cure crazy. If it's true that Devo laid hands on Muss and then Muss lets him back on the team, then Muss is just as crazy as Devo.
Apparently Battle told Muss to "suck his dick" at halftime of the LSU game and that's why he didn't play in the second half. I know Muss cusses his players out all the time too but the amount of disrespect this team in particular has shown their head coach is pretty wild.
Devo is going to bring down this coach and the whole damned program. Why anyone would let a bi-polar person disrupt a multimillion dollar organization is beyond me.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 10:56 AMApparently Battle told Muss to "suck his dick" at halftime of the LSU game and that's why he didn't play in the second half. I know Muss cusses his players out all the time too but the amount of disrespect this team in particular has shown their head coach is pretty wild.
You can't play favorites and be buddy buddy with players while cussing them and demanding discipline. It just can't be done. It always blows up spectacularly in the end.
Yes all the tea leafs are on the table and they all point to terrible management of players and therefore they have lashed out. This of course assumes some or all of it is true.
Same thing with the coaches trying to be their buddy...in the end it doesn't work out. If you treat them as equals they start getting the idea that they are equal.
Why is it so hard for us? Lesser programs do much better with their hires. I wanted Lon Kruger when we hired Mike. He wasn't flashy but he could coach and took OU to a Final Four. And though I've been pleased with Muss, it looks like Porter Moser may end up being a better hire. Ole Miss gets Beard. I could go on with other examples.
Why is it we have so much trouble getting it right in basketball? Elite coaches don't have years like this in their fourth or fifth year.
He deserves a chance to fix it next year, but this isn't encouraging.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 10:56 AMApparently Battle told Muss to "suck his dick" at halftime of the LSU game and that's why he didn't play in the second half. I know Muss cusses his players out all the time too but the amount of disrespect this team in particular has shown their head coach is pretty wild.
This isn't anything new. Over Muss' 4 years here every year there is talk about a player having words with Muss during a game. Where there is smoke and all that...
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 06, 2024, 11:18 AMThis isn't anything new. Over Muss' 4 years here every year there is talk about a player having words with Muss during a game. Where there is smoke and all that...
I mean Muss is pretty big hot head. I wouldn't be surprised if he has anger management issues or is bipolar and hits his players
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 06, 2024, 12:53 PMI mean Muss is pretty big hot head. I wouldn't be surprised if he has anger management issues or is bipolar and hits his players
I hope he goes full Bobby Knight on these assholes.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 06, 2024, 01:54 PMI hope he goes full Bobby Knight on these assholes.
Won't work. Why? You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:01 PMWon't work. Why? You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.
Well, they are professionals now. I don't call my "boss" "boss". I call him by his first name.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 06, 2024, 02:12 PMWell, they are professionals now. I don't call my "boss" "boss". I call him by his first name.
And what would you do if your boss had a screaming cussing fit at you in front of thousands of people?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:14 PMAnd what would you do if your boss had a screaming cussing fit at you in front of thousands of people?
"Suck my dick"
Quote from: Guardrail on Feb 06, 2024, 09:05 AMWhen you let a malcontent, petulant, quitter keep driving the drama you deserve to have a shitass team atmosphere. Bipolar, gay, autistic, narcoleptic, WTF-ever "disorder" people have, use it as a crutch to be an asshole or to rationalize poor behavior or expect preferential treatment because "I have issues". Guess what, everybody has issues.
That's a you issue.
If you can't manage to follow directions, run a designed set play, quit making bonehead erors, stay awake, show up on time, use Excel, etc,. then I need to find somebody who can. If it hurts your feelings and you get mad and stomp out because you throw tantrums because "I'm mad, you're mean for making me do something required by my job and you told me to do it," then by god you need to move on.
I let you back to work with the rest of the team after doing that not once, but twice? I'm not getting respect from anybody.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:01 PMWon't work. Why? You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.
Even in pro sports coaches are usually referred to as "coach". If they ever coached you they are coach and that is the way it is now until the end of time.
There are coaches I had 30 years ago if I were to see them today they would still be Coach XYZ to me. If I hated their guts they would still be Coach Assface or something. But you give them that respect.
Too much Petrino. A little more Pittman. Got it.
https://sports.yahoo.com/eric-musselman-offers-preferred-walk-011318017.html
Must be some new meat. I mean I'm sure he's a hot prospect.
I cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.
No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court.
Muss is all bark no bite. He's a pussy. Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you. That word is respect. Muss has none with this team. And that won't buff out.
Nolan was all bark and bite. And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan. He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.
The recipe for success and failure never changes. Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has. The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.
And it's not just coaching. It's every profession or undertaking in life.
Quote from: red death on Feb 06, 2024, 04:42 PMI cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.
No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court.
Muss is all bark no bite. He's a pussy. Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you. That word is respect. Muss has none with this team. And that won't buff out.
Nolan was all bark and bite. And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan. He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.
The recipe for success and failure never changes. Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has. The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.
And it's not just coaching. It's every profession or undertaking in life.
Young guys talk too. The new guys next year will know exactly what happened this year. Muss may have ruined himself trying to be nice.
Quote from: red death on Feb 06, 2024, 04:42 PMI cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.
No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court.
Muss is all bark no bite. He's a pussy. Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you. That word is respect. Muss has none with this team. And that won't buff out.
Nolan was all bark and bite. And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan. He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.
The recipe for success and failure never changes. Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has. The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.
And it's not just coaching. It's every profession or undertaking in life.
Nolan was also 6'4" 240+ and he was drafted in three different sports professionally. Some guys on the team probably thought they might be able to take him in a fight but they knew it wouldn't be fun or easy. Muss is like 5'6" 150 and everyone who has ever played for him outside of maybe Menifield and Lykes could beat his ass with one arm tied behind their back.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 06, 2024, 06:37 PMYoung guys talk too. The new guys next year will know exactly what happened this year. Muss may have ruined himself trying to be nice.
This is where the hair and nails distraction comes in too. The Bill Walton John Wooden hair story isn't told over and over just because it's funny.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 07:20 PMNolan was also 6'4" 240+ and he was drafted in three different sports professionally. Some guys on the team probably thought they might be able to take him in a fight but they knew it wouldn't be fun or easy. Muss is like 5'6" 150 and everyone who has ever played for him outside of maybe Menifield and Lykes could beat his ass with one arm tied behind their back.
Then how do you explain how Saban, Holtz and other smallish coaches got guys to perform at such a high level?
The list could go on across multiple sports.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 06, 2024, 07:55 PMThen how do you explain how Saban, Holtz and other smallish coaches got guys to perform at such a high level?
The list could go on across multiple sports.
True. I guess respect tends to go out the door when you're losing like this.
Today I learned Patrick Ewing should be the greatest coach that ever lived.
As a leader you have to hold yourself apart. You cannot be too close to the players and you can't play favorites. Guys like Saban and others manage to walk that line between being caring without being too familiar.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 08:46 PMToday I learned Patrick Ewing should be the greatest coach that ever lived.
Well I bet none of his players ever told him to suck their dick.
Hopefully this season is just an anomaly. They obviously went after the wrong players in the portal. Guys from losing programs like Ellis and Battle (a guy who quit Temple in the middle of the season). Offense first players with zero toughness or desire to play defense. I doubt we see any of the current roster back next season aside from maybe Blocker and Mark.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 09:11 PMWell I bet none of his players ever told him to suck their dick.
Hopefully this season is just an anomaly. They obviously went after the wrong players in the portal. Guys from losing programs like Ellis and Battle (a guy who quit Temple in the middle of the season). Offense first players with zero toughness or desire to play defense. I doubt we see any of the current roster back next season aside from maybe Blocker and Mark.
Mark is a senior I think...not sure if he's in his covid year but I don't imagine he'll be back here. I think technically Devo could be back again. ::)
Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 09:14 PMMark is a senior I think...not sure if he's in his covid year but I don't imagine he'll be back here. I think technically Devo could be back again. ::)
Nah Mark is a junior. Devo has to go.
https://x.com/will_whitson2/status/1753923434994606386?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
If Devo comes back, it's clear that Muss has a death wish as far as his career goes.
Quote from: red death on Feb 06, 2024, 04:42 PMI cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.
No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court.
Muss is all bark no bite. He's a pussy. Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you. That word is respect. Muss has none with this team. And that won't buff out.
Nolan was all bark and bite. And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan. He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.
The recipe for success and failure never changes. Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has. The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.
And it's not just coaching. It's every profession or undertaking in life.
Okay I've read every post of yours for the last 3 weeks. Every one. And I'm not saying your wrong...but you might be a little early.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 08:15 PMTrue. I guess respect tends to go out the door when you're losing like this.
It left the room a little when he was allowed back on the team last year.
Once it happens a second time, it's over for both of them.
Why does fall get fewer minutes than the walk-ons lately? Is he redshirting?
Willie Cutts tried to get away with calling out Eddie Sutton once in Barnhill during a game about 1982 or 1983.
Eddie grabbed him and threw him toward the locker room.
We never saw Willie Cutts again.
Anyone else remember this?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 06, 2024, 11:44 PMWhy does fall get fewer minutes than the walk-ons lately? Is he redshirting?
Surely must be which is weird to see a player redshirt these days.
I know he was supposed to be "raw" and sure there are older players that are much further along. Our best players lately have been Mitchell and Graham so to maintain some modicum of competitiveness it's damn hard to throw Fall on the floor. To look at him I'd say he's a 2 years away at best type of player if not 3 which is the same as saying we'll never see him in a Arkansas uniform do great things.
Quote from: Hogslobber on Feb 07, 2024, 06:48 AMWillie Cutts tried to get away with calling out Eddie Sutton once in Barnhill during a game about 1982 or 1983.
Eddie grabbed him and threw him toward the locker room.
We never saw Willie Cutts again.
Anyone else remember this?
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/06/sports/player-is-dismissed-as-arkansas-wins.html
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/12/06/Guardian-says-Cutts-to-finish-semester-at-Fayetteville/4605439534800/
I don't know about the throwing him toward the locker room but there definitely was an incident on the bench.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 06, 2024, 07:55 PMThen how do you explain how Saban, Holtz and other smallish coaches got guys to perform at such a high level?
The list could go on across multiple sports.
If a player told Saban to suck his dick, Saban would laugh and just tell him that he'll replace him with the one of the other 5* players behind him on the depth chart.
The biggest difference is kids today are liable to beat you to death or shoot you if you disrespect them.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 09:15 PMNah Mark is a junior. Devo has to go.
Keep Mark, Blocker, and Fall and jettison the rest.
I don't know what to think.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0vAMeCTKq7TC1QS11CUwFC
I don't give a damn if he scores 50 points, I'm done with Devo.
Quote from: Hogslobber on Feb 07, 2024, 06:48 AMWillie Cutts tried to get away with calling out Eddie Sutton once in Barnhill during a game about 1982 or 1983.
Eddie grabbed him and threw him toward the locker room.
We never saw Willie Cutts again.
Anyone else remember this?
I remembered it as Sutton tried to say something and Cutts turned his back and walked off. Been a while, I might be wrong.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 07, 2024, 08:23 AMhttps://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/06/sports/player-is-dismissed-as-arkansas-wins.html
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/12/06/Guardian-says-Cutts-to-finish-semester-at-Fayetteville/4605439534800/
I don't know about the throwing him toward the locker room but there definitely was an incident on the bench.
Damn nice find. I've never heard about this. I used to talk to Ron Brewer fairly often, you could tell he still thinks very highly of Coach Sutton.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 07, 2024, 11:09 AMDamn nice find. I've never heard about this. I used to talk to Ron Brewer fairly often, you could tell he still thinks very highly of Coach Sutton.
All of Muss's former players speak very highly of him. I think he missed bad on the player evaluations this year. It's going to happen sometimes.
Quote from: Lurk on Feb 07, 2024, 12:13 PMAll of Muss's former players speak very highly of him. I think he missed bad on the player evaluations this year. It's going to happen sometimes.
Yeah I'm with you on this. Muss even said as much on his weekly radio show a few weeks ago, that after this season in the portal we were going to target toughness, guys like Au'diese Toney.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 07, 2024, 11:09 AMDamn nice find. I've never heard about this. I used to talk to Ron Brewer fairly often, you could tell he still thinks very highly of Coach Sutton.
All of Sutton's players loved him.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
Phrasing?
Quote from: animal on Feb 08, 2024, 08:05 AMhttps://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
"Let's face it, in the last four years there have been a lot of people criticizing us for not going deeper into our rotation. Now we're going deep into our rotation and we're getting [criticized]."
Oh yeah Muss, that's definitely why you're getting criticized.
yeah that is a reach. Muss doesn't take criticism of a losing team very well.
Quote from: animal on Feb 08, 2024, 08:05 AMhttps://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
"Neither Musselman nor Davis has said why Davis left the team temporarily. But Musselman said Davis had a good return practice after they had a productive meeting Sunday, then lifted weights together."
Is "productive meeting" and "lifted weights together" code for something?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 08, 2024, 08:31 AM"Neither Musselman nor Davis has said why Davis left the team temporarily. But Musselman said Davis had a good return practice after they had a productive meeting Sunday, then lifted weights together."
Is "productive meeting" and "lifted weights together" code for something?
htl says he pounds weights and is productive every morning...
Quote from: animal on Feb 08, 2024, 08:05 AMhttps://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
Humping and grinding no doubt.
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 08, 2024, 08:27 AMyeah that is a reach. Muss doesn't take criticism of a losing team very well.
He shouldn't have said it but he's not wrong. Fans have bitched incessantly about him only playing 7 guys.
When your team plays fatigued as the season wears on, criticism of a 7 man rotation when you're are the only team in college basketball with that strategy is at a minimum warranted conversation.
Criticism of a larger, deeper rotation when your team sucks ass and can't find chemistry no matter who you put on the floor is an entirely different problem and conversation.
Conflating the two insults our intelligence and muss can go fuck himself for it.
Quote from: animal on Feb 08, 2024, 08:05 AMhttps://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
Is that what Devo calls swiping right on his Grindr account?
Quote from: BASS on Feb 08, 2024, 11:16 AMWhen your team plays fatigued as the season wears on, criticism of a 7 man rotation when you're are the only team in college basketball with that strategy is at a minimum warranted conversation.
Criticism of a larger, deeper rotation when your team sucks ass and can't find chemistry no matter who you put on the floor is an entirely different problem and conversation.
Conflating the two insults our intelligence and muss can go fuck himself for it.
100% this.
If Muss isn't smart enough to make the distinction then there are larger problems.
Quote from: animal on Feb 08, 2024, 08:05 AMhttps://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/feb/06/musselman-says-arkansas-mens-basketball-players/
Good news guys the players are grinding...
I believe he meant to say Grinder
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 08, 2024, 08:31 AM"Neither Musselman nor Davis has said why Davis left the team temporarily. But Musselman said Davis had a good return practice after they had a productive meeting Sunday, then lifted weights together."
Is "productive meeting" and "lifted weights together" code for something?
Maybe now we know the real reason Mrs. Muss makes him sleep in the pool house on the reg.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 08, 2024, 03:29 PMMaybe now we know the real reason Mrs. Muss makes him sleep in the pool house on the reg.
Because his dick smells like shit, or because he has dried jizz on his ass?
According to the instagrammer we'll be wearing some new uniforms so as to not confuse us with their predecessor teams.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3Im0k8LEwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Quote from: animal on Feb 09, 2024, 05:16 PMAccording to the instagrammer we'll be wearing some new uniforms so as to not confuse us with their predecessor teams.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3Im0k8LEwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Those look underwhelming. Matching our season of play is a great plan.
Quote from: animal on Feb 09, 2024, 05:16 PMAccording to the instagrammer we'll be wearing some new uniforms so as to not confuse us with their predecessor teams.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3Im0k8LEwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Any word whether we'll try a new give-a-fuck?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 09, 2024, 09:01 PMAny word whether we'll try a new give-a-fuck?
We were grinding all week, but no mention of "going back to the lab"...we reserve that for better under-performing teams. Also no "looking into the mirror" because appealing to these guys personal accountability and intestinal fortitude is frowned on now days.
Dollars to donuts...Devo is in the starting lineup.
Quote from: animal on Feb 09, 2024, 05:16 PMAccording to the instagrammer we'll be wearing some new uniforms so as to not confuse us with their predecessor teams.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3Im0k8LEwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Why? What is the point? Spend the money on nil not 75 uniforms
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 09, 2024, 11:06 PMWhy? What is the point? Spend the money on nil not 75 uniforms
They don't pay for them. Nike or whoever the apparel contract is with pays for it. Still stupid though.
I'm sure it was planned, designed, ordered before it was known Oh Noes We Suck.
Did we have to put "Arkansas Razorbacks" in a butthole shape?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 10, 2024, 08:06 AMDid we have to put "Arkansas Razorbacks" in a butthole shape?
Might get the team aroused (some of them) and get a W. Just piggybacking, pun intended, on the jokes. I couldn't care less which holes they prefer, but hope the basketball goal is one of them.
This will be the game where we win by 20 and keep a sliver of hope alive.
Then we lose by 20 to Tennessee.
We hear bitching about NIL and not enough for the BKB ream, then why is Harp's Food Stores using Danelle in ads and not a BKB player? That just seems odd to me to use the coaches wife and not a player now that it is legal.
Also, I know the hunt group is the unofficial BKB nil but it strikes me odd that those deals are vastly with non-profits. I know pinion was doing something with ACH-NW. that one seems odd - ACH paying an athlete for exposure- and hearing him talk about it on the radio (ACH radio thon and his connection with ACH I.e. cash) was a painful listen. Maybe that answers the above question.
The Cam little Sassy's radio ad is the best use of NIL I've heard.
Idea: have shelter insurance use one of the football players in their non stop promotion of the you know what, that is mentioned every 45 seconds during all Razorback radio broadcasts no matter the sport.
I saw that Nike has used that uniform design for the nba.
If they are going to an alternate then utilize old main like a skyline (think mountains on Utah's city jersey)
Those uni's were probably a last minute replacement for the pink one's. Can't wear those anymore....
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 10, 2024, 08:06 AMDid we have to put "Arkansas Razorbacks" in a butthole shape?
Bea Arthur's family pitched into the Foundation.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 10, 2024, 11:03 AMBea Arthur's family pitched into the Foundation.
Well played.
the foundation just sent this out.
so now attending games at BWA is going to cost much, much more if this plays out (I think the cheapest single game ticket price for the new possible amenities was $300) and then there is the NIL we have to fund on top of the donation (Broyles-Matthews was the requirement for most of the new concepts)
WTF are they spending all the TV money on? They are determined to price out the vast majority of the fan base and turn BWA into boxes/lounges and a student section.
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Jeff's "Answer the Call" ended my season ticket.
The NIL along with this may get a few more of the regular folk out of the contributors.
Just answered the questions and thought to myself, "I guess I'll never watch a live game again."
The common man will be relegated to the upper deck.
They don't even care if we're good or not. Fuck the people running our athletic department.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 12, 2024, 06:12 PMthe foundation just sent this out.
so now attending games at BWA is going to cost much, much more if this plays out (I think the cheapest single game ticket price for the new possible amenities was $300) and then there is the NIL we have to fund on top of the donation (Broyles-Matthews was the requirement for most of the new concepts)
WTF are they spending all the TV money on? They are determined to price out the vast majority of the fan base and turn BWA into boxes/lounges and a student section.
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They lost me at "reimagine."
Just win baby- Al Davis
Put a winning team on the court and folks will sit on milk crates for $300 a pop.
It's like movie theaters installing recliners with beer sales. Great idea to enhance the customer experience, but if the movie sucks no one is coming.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 12, 2024, 08:48 PMThey don't even care if we're good or not. Fuck the people running our athletic department.
What choice do they have? It's either raise a whole bunch more money, or don't upgrade, which of course long term leads to poorer performance.
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 12, 2024, 10:04 PMWhat choice do they have? It's either raise a whole bunch more money, or don't upgrade, which of course long term leads to poorer performance.
All we hear about is how great of an atmosphere Bud Walton has and now they're going to turn it into an NBA arena with less seats. This is going to completely change the atmosphere at games. How is this going to help us win? Does Cameron Indoor have a bunch of on court suites and lounges now?
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 12, 2024, 10:04 PMWhat choice do they have? It's either raise a whole bunch more money, or don't upgrade, which of course long term leads to poorer performance.
is that true though? I know that is the fear the athletics program sells but I've seen no proof that success on the court/field is directly tied to having the absolute top facilities.
After all, we have great facilities and we suck at football and have okay success at basketball. Remember, basketball said they needed a practice facility in order to compete. Well, now they need an NBA arena? I don't buy it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 13, 2024, 05:07 AMis that true though? I know that is the fear the athletics program sells but I've seen no proof that success on the court/field is directly tied to having the absolute top facilities.
After all, we have great facilities and we suck at football and have okay success at basketball. Remember, basketball said they needed a practice facility in order to compete. Well, now they need an NBA arena? I don't buy it.
This is more about renovating for the fans' sake (which is probably needed) and reducing capacity a bit to prevent some of the empty seats you see on weeknight and non-premium weekend games. And to add premium seating since they supposedly have waiting lists for boxes and the like.
The latter doesn't really make sense though as the tickets are sold out.
For the record I selected the "I don't give a fuck (paraphrased)" option on all questions relating to premium seating, or to all which said "this area will require a Broyles-Matthews level donation."
I love basketball and Razorback basketball specifically. I can't bring myself to pay $200 a ticket to watch a bunch of 18-22 year olds who are now getting paid more than your average fan after proving nothing on the court. I'm pretty close to being done with college sports in general at this point.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 13, 2024, 12:02 AMAll we hear about is how great of an atmosphere Bud Walton has and now they're going to turn it into an NBA arena with less seats. This is going to completely change the atmosphere at games. How is this going to help us win? Does Cameron Indoor have a bunch of on court suites and lounges now?
Fewer seats.
I think it's partially an attempt to bring in corporate fans and their guests who may feel more compelled to become a new contributor.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 13, 2024, 07:45 AMI love basketball and Razorback basketball specifically. I can't bring myself to pay $200 a ticket to watch a bunch of 18-22 year olds who are now getting paid more than your average fan after proving nothing on the court. I'm pretty close to being done with college sports in general at this point.
We spent about that much for the Duke game, but once a year is plenty for that, and we got really good seats for that price.
A big reason I'm not a season ticket holder in basketball is that I'm a seat snob. If I can't sit in the lower level I'm not going, and I refuse to donate enough to get those kinds of seats. I'd rather watch on TV than sit in the nosebleeds.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 13, 2024, 07:52 AMWe spent about that much for the Duke game, but once a year is plenty for that, and we got really good seats for that price.
A big reason I'm not a season ticket holder in basketball is that I'm a seat snob. If I can't sit in the lower level I'm not going, and I refuse to donate enough to get those kinds of seats. I'd rather watch on TV than sit in the nosebleeds.
Yeah I'm with you there. In football it's almost better to sit a little higher because you can see everything develop. In basketball the difference between sitting 10 rows up and sitting in the upper level is huge.
I wonder what a chart of ticket prices compared to inflation over say the last 20 years would look like. One of you smart guys figure that out.
We do have to remember every damn thing costs a lot more now than only a few years ago.
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 13, 2024, 08:05 AMI wonder what a chart of ticket prices compared to inflation over say the last 20 years would look like. One of you smart guys figure that out.
We do have to remember every damn thing costs a lot more now than only a few years ago.
Do you have season tickets for basketball? You can get a season ticket package this season for the same price as what they are going to be selling a single game ticket for after these renovations. I can't justify doing that because they are going to, what? Have more food options to choose from?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 13, 2024, 08:21 AMDo you have season tickets for basketball? You can get a season ticket package this season for the same price as what they are going to be selling a single game ticket for after these renovations. I can't justify doing that because they are going to, what? Have more food options to choose from?
No, I live 4 1/2 hours from Fayetteville. Not really practical to have basketball tickets.
My seats aren't in my donation level for any sports. Football it's by choice. I'm lower level in the corner at BWA which isn't a bad seat but I have to think my options improve if they reopen selwction. Hell, baseball I can't even get a seat which is frustrating. I'm too damn old to hang out with Rick B and the animals in the Hog Pen.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 13, 2024, 08:51 AMMy seats aren't in my donation level for any sports. Football it's by choice. I'm lower level in the corner at BWA which isn't a bad seat but I have to think my options improve if they reopen selwction. Hell, baseball I can't even get a seat which is frustrating. I'm too damn old to hang out with Rick B and the animals in the Hog Pen.
You just need to get a pig heart so you can hang out in the pen.
Maybe I'm just getting older but the game day experience in BWA sucks. I want to hear the band more. I can't stand John Williams voice.
Quote from: aaron on Feb 13, 2024, 10:34 AMMaybe I'm just getting older but the game day experience in BWA sucks. I want to hear the band more. I can't stand John Williams voice.
No you're right it's terrible and so are the football games. The band has been phased out almost totally and Jon Williams is the absolute worst.
I would be ok with more from the band if they showed an ounce of creativity. We've played the same shit for 20 years.
Couple that with our DJ playing dumbass shit like cotton eye joe and it's insufferable. And yes, Jon Williams is a clown.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 13, 2024, 11:15 AMI would be ok with more from the band if they showed an ounce of creativity. We've played the same shit for 20 years.
Couple that with our DJ playing dumbass shit like cotton eye joe and it's insufferable. And yes, Jon Williams is a clown.
I went for the first time in a while this year. The environment was just annoying background noise you have to yell over to talk to your friends during a break in the action.
The new design is going to have a square dance floor in the concourse.
How about they leave it the way it is and put a better team in it?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 13, 2024, 01:23 PMHow about they leave it the way it is and put a better team in it?
Hey! Logic is not allowed on this board and certainly not in Arkansas Athletic Department.
You should know better.
It can't be said enough...this is asking to turn this into an NBA type of scenario.......and no not the Sacramento Kings type atmosphere....I am assuming the idea is to make this a corporate social thing, and therefore, guarantee more money up front etc....
I hate it.....I LOVE COLLEGE Football and Basketball....I think it is ten times more enjoyable than professional sports....but I do not like the way the game is headed; that being said, I am all for the kids getting a piece of the pie
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 13, 2024, 01:23 PMHow about they leave it the way it is and put a better team in it?
That team is apparently still finding its way in the practice facility.
Arena definitely badly needs a makeover and the money to pay for it has to come from somewhere.
Then again, I went to a TCU game for $10 and parking next to the arena is free and they have a better team than we do.
My kid is seriously considering going to Texas. I'm okay with it as that it is a good school. And dang it, maybe it's for the best. If she goes there, it will break this cycle of heartache that is being an Arkansas fan and my grandkids will know something different.
I'm tired of seeing a list of decisions Razorback Athletics could make and having them consistently choose the worst possible one over and over and over. I can't ever stop being a fan, but maybe it will die with me.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Feb 13, 2024, 03:18 PMArena definitely badly needs a makeover and the money to pay for it has to come from somewhere.
Then again, I went to a TCU game for $10 and parking next to the arena is free and they have a better team than we do.
and good Lord do they ever have "scenery"
Anybody interested in tickets to tomorrow night's game? Two lower level section 104.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 13, 2024, 08:58 PMAnybody interested in tickets to tomorrow night's game? Two lower level section 104.
The usual offer* applies?
*You'll provide airfare, lodging, all meals and concessions, and $1,000 cash.
it's almost like they are trying to find shit to spend the tv money so they don't have to share it with the student-athletes (which they should - that should be the money the kids get instead of asking the fans to pay for the program's expenses AND the collective to pay the kids).
I don't know why we have a PA system at BWA - you can't understand anything anyone yells into a microphone there.
Also why are we paying a DJ to "mix" 80s white pop and country songs? Let the band play but "Hey Jude" and "Freebird" have to go from the playlist last week.
Why do they not get that if one wanted an NBA experience that Memphis and OKC are an easy drive away.
Amazing how Kansas still plays in Allen Fieldhouse and that seems to be working out ok without suites and the like.
They have killed the atmosphere at Baum-Walker and so I guess BWA is next on the list. I guess that's what happens when the decision makers are pulling in 250K a year and don't have to pay fan expenses.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 13, 2024, 04:43 PMMy kid is seriously considering going to Texas. I'm okay with it as that it is a good school. And dang it, maybe it's for the best. If she goes there, it will break this cycle of heartache that is being an Arkansas fan and my grandkids will know something different.
I'm tired of seeing a list of decisions Razorback Athletics could make and having them consistently choose the worst possible one over and over and over. I can't ever stop being a fan, but maybe it will die with me.
Texas is a good school, no doubt. But it is in Austin, so it would be a "no" for me. I wouldn't have said that at all 30-40 years ago. Austin was great.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 13, 2024, 10:20 PMThe usual offer* applies?
*You'll provide airfare, lodging, all meals and concessions, and $1,000 cash.
Would if I could.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 13, 2024, 10:44 PMit's almost like they are trying to find shit to spend the tv money so they don't have to share it with the student-athletes (which they should - that should be the money the kids get instead of asking the fans to pay for the program's expenses AND the collective to pay the kids).
I don't know why we have a PA system at BWA - you can't understand anything anyone yells into a microphone there.
Also why are we paying a DJ to "mix" 80s white pop and country songs? Let the band play but "Hey Jude" and "Freebird" have to go from the playlist last week.
Why do they not get that if one wanted an NBA experience that Memphis and OKC are an easy drive away.
Amazing how Kansas still plays in Allen Fieldhouse and that seems to be working out ok without suites and the like.
They have killed the atmosphere at Baum-Walker and so I guess BWA is next on the list. I guess that's what happens when the decision makers are pulling in 250K a year and don't have to pay fan expenses.
It would make the most sense to use the TV money to pay players, but they aren't allowed to do that as of now. Thank the NCAA for that nonsense.
Quote from: jdcatty on Feb 13, 2024, 10:52 PMTexas is a good school, no doubt. But it is in Austin, so it would be a "no" for me. I wouldn't have said that at all 30-40 years ago. Austin was great.
All it took for my kid was one trip to the UT campus for a school function and he had zero interest. He saw more homeless beggars in one walk just off campus than he said he ever had in Little Rock or our trips to Memphis or Atlanta. Granted we raised him properly in UT hatred so he went in with a little bias.
There's no doubt it's a good school though and a great opportunity for the right kid.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 14, 2024, 08:21 AMIt would make the most sense to use the TV money to pay players, but they aren't allowed to do that as of now. Thank the NCAA for that nonsense.
Well, how about buyouts and coaching salaries then so that we don't get stuck with Tittboss for the next sixteen years?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 14, 2024, 08:33 AMWell, how about buyouts and coaching salaries then so that we don't get stuck with Tittboss for the next sixteen years?
I'm all for it. Talk to your chancellor.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 14, 2024, 08:25 AMAll it took for my kid was one trip to the UT campus for a school function and he had zero interest. He saw more homeless beggars in one walk just off campus than he said he ever had in Little Rock or our trips to Memphis or Atlanta. Granted we raised him properly in UT hatred so he went in with a little bias.
There's no doubt it's a good school though and a great opportunity for the right kid.
That's Austin these days. Really hate it.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 14, 2024, 08:21 AMIt would make the most sense to use the TV money to pay players, but they aren't allowed to do that as of now. Thank the NCAA for that nonsense.
Paying those fucknuts is the root cause of the suckage in
college athletics.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 14, 2024, 08:33 AMWell, how about buyouts and coaching salaries then so that we don't get stuck with Tittboss for the next sixteen years?
Just looking at him, methinks that is an optimistic estimate of his remaining lifespan.
Bump...anyone want two tickets to the game tonight?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 11:06 AMPaying those fucknuts is the root cause of the suckage in college athletics.
That's like, your opinion, man.
Coaches salaries off the charts, schools getting record $ off tv deals, merch sales, and when the kids finally get a little slice...well THAT'S the undoing of it all.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 14, 2024, 02:24 PMBump...anyone want two tickets to the game tonight?
Are you giving them away?
I'd have taken them but I need 4
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 02:28 PMThat's like, your opinion, man.
Coaches salaries off the charts, schools getting record $ off tv deals, merch sales, and when the kids finally get a little slice...well THAT'S the undoing of it all.
Fuck them, they are getting a free education that costs most people big money. If they want to get paid they can take their ass pro if they are good enough, or be a fry cook if they aren't. College athletics should not be the minor leagues of pro sports. Fuck you if you don't like that.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 03:12 PMFuck them, they are getting a free education that costs most people big money. If they want to get paid they can take their ass pro if they are good enough, or be a fry cook if they aren't. College athletics should not be the minor leagues of pro sports. Fuck you if you don't like that.
Get it off your chest gramps. Let it all out. Maybe Nebraska brings back the veer with a triple option look, and we get back to REAL football!
The world laughs at the idea of your "free education." Dmac might've gone from a 7th to 8th grade reading level while at the UA for 3 years.
Go get your bag, son. Fuck the old geezers mad at ya because they can't monopolize your talents 100% into their own pockets anymore.
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 03:22 PMGet it off your chest gramps. Let it all out. Maybe Nebraska brings back the veer with a triple option look, and we get back to REAL football!
The world laughs at the idea of your "free education." Dmac might've gone from a 7th to 8th grade reading level while at the UA for 3 years.
Go get your bag, son. Fuck the old geezers mad at ya because they can't monopolize your talents 100% into their own pockets anymore.
Dmac should have never been in college, neither should most of these shitbirds treating college ball as prep for the pros. Most would never qualify to enroll at a major university. There needs to be some major changes brought about due to NIL.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 03:29 PMDmac should have never been in college, neither should most of these shitbirds treating college ball as prep for the pros. Most would never qualify to enroll at a major university. There needs to be some major changes brought about due to NIL.
And I don't disagree with any of that. I've been saying for years that the European model for soccer is/was the way to go. If you're talented in the big 3, then you go over to this school at 7th grade or so that focuses on sports, with academics included.
Sports should never have gained the power and money it has at the University level. The term "Student-athlete" is a joke and has been for a while, but that ship has long sailed. So the next best thing is let the players have a piece of the pie that the coaches and admins are getting.
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 03:34 PMAnd I don't disagree with any of that. I've been saying for years that the European model for soccer is/was the way to go. If you're talented in the big 3, then you go over to this school at 7th grade or so that focuses on sports, with academics included.
Sports should never have gained the power and money it has at the University level. The term "Student-athlete" is a joke and has been for a while, but that ship has long sailed. So the next best thing is let the players have a piece of the pie that the coaches and admins are getting.
Nope. Coaches and admins are professionals, the players in college should not be.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 03:39 PMNope. Coaches and admins are professionals, the players in college should not be.
Should they be allowed to work at McDonald's for some spending money? Previously, they couldn't. Normal college kids could though.
When that baseball player is teaching little Johnny in that DVH clinic, should he get some of that money or just smile and say c'mere kid, I'll teach you all I know with all this free time I have?
The new way might not be the best way, but the old way was definitely terrible too.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Feb 14, 2024, 04:08 PMShould they be allowed to work at McDonald's for some spending money? Previously, they couldn't. Normal college kids could though.
When that baseball player is teaching little Johnny in that DVH clinic, should he get some of that money or just smile and say c'mere kid, I'll teach you all I know with all this free time I have?
The new way might not be the best way, but the old way was definitely terrible too.
The old way was kinda shitty, but the new way isn't worth a damn.
The old way was the old way because they knew as soon as any payments were possible, it would immediately proceed to the outright purchase of recruits.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 14, 2024, 05:48 PMThe old way was the old way because they knew as soon as any payments were possible, it would immediately proceed to the outright purchase of recruits.
It is a train wreck
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 03:39 PMNope. Coaches and admins are professionals, the players in college should not be.
Hurr-durr, BUT THEY GET AN EDUMICASHUNS!!! Oh and they even got a little pocket change too every month, and books!!! OMG FREE BOOKS!
You can name it anything you want and still be wrong. It's okay. This brave new world is really scary for some.
A student section full of retarded sharks again
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 07:53 PMHurr-durr, BUT THEY GET AN EDUMICASHUNS!!! Oh and they even got a little pocket change too every month, and books!!! OMG FREE BOOKS!
You can name it anything you want and still be wrong. It's okay. This brave new world is really scary for some.
I guess they need to skip higher-ed and go straight to the pros.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 08:15 PMI guess they need to skip higher-ed and go straight to the pros.
Why? You pretend they were "amateurs" before NIL. They weren't, but people like coaches and admins like pretending they were as they themselves grew fatter and happier on the backs of those student athletes.
Are you a now unemployed bag man? Because it sounds like you want to go back to those days.
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 08:31 PMWhy? You pretend they were "amateurs" before NIL. They weren't, but people like coaches and admins like pretending they were as they themselves grew fatter and happier on the backs of those student athletes.
Are you a now unemployed bag man? Because it sounds like you want to go back to those days.
You can twist it all you want, but institutes of higher learning should not be functioning as some kind of half-assed daycare for men who can't quite make it pro.
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 14, 2024, 08:53 PMYou can twist it all you want, but institutes of higher learning should not be functioning as some kind of half-assed daycare for men who can't quite make it pro.
BUT it's okay that "institutes of higher learning" make hundreds of millions in revenue per year on sports ball?
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 08:59 PMBUT it's okay that "institutes of higher learning" make hundreds of millions in revenue per year on sports ball?
As long as they use amatuer student-athletes, sure.
I don't think TC is wrong.
What I do think is the game has fundamentally changed and I won't be a customer for much longer.
I hate the NBA game, the atmosphere, and the personalities. College basket is accelerating toward that and that isn't a good thing.
It was less fair to athletes when they were the only ones in the chain not getting rich off college athletics.
However, it was a better fan experience when teams stayed fairly intact and you could root for team development and the same guys year after year. A kind of semi-pro mercenary pickup team year after year does nothing for me.
In other words it's not paying the athletes that's the problem, it's the yearly unlimited free agency. Even pro leagues don't have that.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 14, 2024, 09:23 PMIt was less fair to athletes when they were the only ones in the chain not getting rich off college athletics.
However, it was a better fan experience when teams stayed fairly intact and you could root for team development and the same guys year after year. A kind of semi-pro mercenary pickup team year after year does nothing for me.
In other words it's not paying the athletes that's the problem, it's the yearly unlimited free agency. Even pro leagues don't have that.
That's the side that most of the "pay the players" people don't want to acknowledge. They want to have it both ways...the salary without the commitment.
Quote from: TC on Feb 14, 2024, 08:31 PMWhy? You pretend they were "amateurs" before NIL. They weren't, but people like coaches and admins like pretending they were as they themselves grew fatter and happier on the backs of those student athletes.
Are you a now unemployed bag man? Because it sounds like you want to go back to those days.
"On the backs of those student athletes."
Was somebody forcing those student athletes at gunpoint to sign up for the "abuse?" If they didn't want any part of it, they were free to go get a job like the rest of us.
They got a free education, room and board, and they got to walk around campus for four years with everybody worshipping the ground that they walked on. And then if they were good enough, they could go make a living at it after graduation.
Sorry, I'm not buying the "it's not fair" argument. I knew all the "it's not fair," "equity" people were going to ruin college athletics. Now y'all have.
Congratulations, I guess. Enjoy the "equity" of it all.
Players never drove college sports. Team allegiance did. And we see that in the way NIL is being used. Some schools are paying practically anonymous players money to win recruiting battles, build team depth, and so on and so forth.
Oh, well too late now. I always feared that Arkansas didn't have the commitment to be good and NIL has certainly proved that so far.
Originally Saturday's game @ Mississippi St. was officially listed for TV ESPN or ESPN2. Both of which I get.
It is now on ESPNU. Which I do not get.
I just want to thank the ESPN family, I guess.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 15, 2024, 11:11 AMOriginally Saturday's game @ Mississippi St. was officially listed for TV ESPN or ESPN2. Both of which I get.
It is now on ESPNU. Which I do not get.
I just want to thank the ESPN family, I guess.
Don't worry. Someone will post play by play in the official game thread.
You think that sounds daunting. But it's really just copying and pasting the same sentence about 200 times.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 14, 2024, 09:23 PMIt was less fair to athletes when they were the only ones in the chain not getting rich off college athletics.
However, it was a better fan experience when teams stayed fairly intact and you could root for team development and the same guys year after year. A kind of semi-pro mercenary pickup team year after year does nothing for me.
In other words it's not paying the athletes that's the problem, it's the yearly daily unlimited free agency. Even pro leagues don't have that.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 14, 2024, 09:28 PMThat's the side that most of the "pay the players" people don't want to acknowledge. They want to have it both ways...the salary without the commitment.
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A Tennessee fan asks a question...
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1arkoj1/whats_the_deal_with_bud_walton_arena/
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 14, 2024, 09:28 PMThat's the side that most of the "pay the players" people don't want to acknowledge. They want to have it both ways...the salary without the commitment.
I agree. In addition, they never thought it through. Can we set up a system whereby we can pay the players and not kill the goose that laid the golden egg? Maybe it will all turn out all right but the early results are not encouraging.
bigger question for schools like Arkansas where the NIL pot is only so big - not sure it's enough to be a player in all sports so how do you divide the pie and then what is a realistic expectation for each sport? Not sure we have money to be competitive in the big 3 - seems like basketball would easily have the best chance for return on investment with the smaller roster.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 15, 2024, 06:35 PMI agree. In addition, they never thought it through. Can we set up a system whereby we can pay the players and not kill the goose that laid the golden egg? Maybe it will all turn out all right but the early results are not encouraging.
Even with it's shortcomings, it's still light years better than the old way with bag men and rampant cheating. Still lots of room for improvement though.
Quote from: TC on Feb 15, 2024, 09:00 PMEven with it's shortcomings, it's still light years better than the old way with bag men and rampant cheating. Still lots of room for improvement though.
We still have bag men. They've just been legalized. Kinda like betsaracen putting the bookies out of business.
Meet the new bag man, same as the old bag man.
Except now we no longer have amateur sports.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 15, 2024, 09:16 PMWe still have bag men. They've just been legalized. Kinda like betsaracen putting the bookies out of business.
Meet the new bag man, same as the old bag man.
Except now we no longer have amateur sports.
And the university has zero say in the process, it is a complete free-for-all. Pay for play with none of the controls pro sports have. How much longer will it be before we see guys just up and quit mid-season because they think the money is not worth it?
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 15, 2024, 09:37 PMHow much longer will it be before we see guys just up and quit mid-season because they think the money is not worth it?
Isn't that what we have been watching the last two months?
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Feb 15, 2024, 10:04 PMIsn't that what we have been watching the last two months?
Not quite to the extreme I am talking about.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 15, 2024, 09:16 PMWe still have bag men. They've just been legalized. Kinda like betsaracen putting the bookies out of business.
Meet the new bag man, same as the old bag man.
Except now we no longer have amateur sports.
Sooo, not a bag man then. One was illegal, the other is not.
If you cant afford it, well maybe thats a You of A problem. My guess is this is what has Hog fans mad.
They want to spend YOUR money, not theirs.
And as far as Amateur status, that ship sailed 30+ years ago. The Admins and PTB pick and choose whats Amateur and what isnt, going back to the Dream Team.
Quote from: TC on Feb 15, 2024, 10:43 PMSooo, not a bag man then. One was illegal, the other is not.
If you cant afford it, well maybe thats a You of A problem. My guess is this is what has Hog fans mad.
They want to spend YOUR money, not theirs.
And as far as Amateur status, that ship sailed 30+ years ago. The Admins and PTB pick and choose whats Amateur and what isnt, going back to the Dream Team.
New laws were passed to make formerly illegal conduct legal, but the conduct is the same. Bookie=Betsaracen. No difference.
Giving a college athlete free tuition, free room and board, and a license to walk around campus with the entire student body worshipping the ground you walk on is not "abuse." If they don't want to come play sports in college under those conditions, fine, they don't have to. There are plenty of others who will sign up for the "abuse." And people who love amateur athletics will pay good money to see them come and play.
Show me a workable solution for paying college athletes and still having a product that people will fill the stadiums for and I will take your position more seriously.
I don't think it's doable.
For all its flaws I think the old system will prove over time to have been better for all concerned.
Time will tell.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 15, 2024, 11:25 PMNew laws were passed to make formerly illegal conduct legal, but the conduct is the same. Bookie=Betsaracen. No difference.
Giving a college athlete free tuition, free room and board, and a license to walk around campus with the entire student body worshipping the ground you walk on is not "abuse." If they don't want to come play sports in college under those conditions, fine, they don't have to. There are plenty of others who will sign up for the "abuse." And people who love amateur athletics will pay good money to see them come and play.
Show me a workable solution for paying college athletes and still having a product that people will fill the stadiums for and I will take your position more seriously.
I don't think it's doable.
For all its flaws I think the old system will prove over time to have been better for all concerned.
Time will tell.
Ah, yes, the old system. Where Auburn bought a natty for 250k. Those were the good old days!
Best case we go 3-4 in the final games. Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season. Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.
Quote from: TC on Feb 15, 2024, 11:31 PMAh, yes, the old system. Where Auburn bought a natty for 250k. Those were the good old days!
If it only cost 250k for a natty and we didn't buy several, then every swinging dick in the ath dept and the foundation should be beat with a rubber hose and fired
Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 16, 2024, 07:20 AMIf it only cost 250k for a natty and we didn't buy several, then every swinging dick in the ath dept and the foundation should be beat with a rubber hose and fired
Sir, we do things the right way around here. It's all about the hashtags to reach out to today's kids. #Integrity #WinAsOneRazorback #ThrowTheA
Look at our 2007 football season. I hated Nutt so much at that point the only reason I was going to games is because I couldn't pass up opportunities to see Mcfadden play for us in person (and to a slightly lesser extent Felix and Hillis). Every kid was wearing a DMAC jersey, he's generating millions of dollars for the university, but the guy everyone hates (Nutt) is the one making millions of dollars.
These days every coach is making an insane amount of money. Pittman isn't even close to being worth what he is getting paid but you have a guy like Saban who, even though he was getting paid a ton was realistically worth 10x that amount to Alabama.
I hate the way the current system is set up but it also feels like some commie bullshit to whine about it because this is just the free market at work. The genie isn't going back into the bottle anyway. Adapt or die.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 16, 2024, 07:42 AMLook at our 2007 football season. I hated Nutt so much at that point the only reason I was going to games is because I couldn't pass up opportunities to see Mcfadden play for us in person (and to a slightly lesser extent Felix and Hillis). Every kid was wearing a DMAC jersey, he's generating millions of dollars for the university, but the guy everyone hates (Nutt) is the one making millions of dollars.
These days every coach is making an insane amount of money. Pittman isn't even close to being worth what he is getting paid but you have a guy like Saban who, even though he was getting paid a ton was realistically worth 10x that amount to Alabama.
I hate the way the current system is set up but it also feels like some commie bullshit to whine about it because this is just the free market at work. The genie isn't going back into the bottle anyway. Adapt or die.
That was my freshman year on the Hill. What a waste of talent. If we'd had a better defense, we could've won the natty. I'll never forget Michael Smith fumbling right before the half against Kentucky and knowing it cost us the game.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 15, 2024, 09:16 PMWe still have bag men. They've just been legalized. Kinda like betsaracen putting the bookies out of business.
Meet the new bag man, same as the old bag man.
Except now we no longer have amateur sports.
The bookies aren't out of business. Some probably are, but the ones who deal in large denominations are doing just fine.
One explained it to me like this. They deal with the people who don't want to put up cash up front, or who deal in larger denominations than the state websites will allow. And of course, those who don't want to share their winnings with their greedy uncle in D.C.
I don't care about the nil. Do away with the sitting out the year and put the transfer portal back like it was. That's what is going to kill college athletics.
Quote from: Lurk on Feb 16, 2024, 09:26 AMI don't care about the nil. Do away with the sitting out the year and put the transfer portal back like it was. That's what is going to kill college athletics.
Agreed. The free agency is what will kill it, not the money. Players have been getting paid to some degree for years.
Universities are committed to initial signees out of high school for four years if the player chooses to stay there. The player should have some sort of contract to uphold as well.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 16, 2024, 11:29 AMAgreed. The free agency is what will kill it, not the money. Players have been getting paid to some degree for years.
Universities are committed to initial signees out of high school for four years if the player chooses to stay there. The player should have some sort of contract to uphold as well.
But the Universities aren't committed to four years. The scholarships are year to year now.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Feb 16, 2024, 11:44 AMBut the Universities aren't committed to four years. The scholarships are year to year now.
Unless it's changed in the last few months, the scholarships at P5 programs are four-year deals for high school signees. They used to be year-to-year, and still are at smaller schools.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 16, 2024, 11:48 AMUnless it's changed in the last few months, the scholarships at P5 programs are four-year deals for high school signees. They used to be year-to-year, and still are at smaller schools.
Well dang. I totally had that backwards. Thanks for keeping me straight
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 16, 2024, 11:29 AMAgreed. The free agency is what will kill it, not the money. Players have been getting paid to some degree for years.
Universities are committed to initial signees out of high school for four years if the player chooses to stay there. The player should have some sort of contract to uphold as well.
Absolutely
Quote from: TC on Feb 15, 2024, 10:43 PMSooo, not a bag man then. One was illegal, the other is not.
If you cant afford it, well maybe thats a You of A problem. My guess is this is what has Hog fans mad.
They want to spend YOUR money, not theirs.
This. The kids deserve a piece of the $60 million from the tv deal.
It seems the schools do NOT want to share that and instead have the fans/boosters pay the collective to pay the kids in addition to what fans/booster pay now.
Are head coaches making 4 mill plus giving to the collective and putting their money where their mouth is?
I have two kids at the UofA, but I need to help pay the QB's scholarship (foundation donation) AND the collective to give the kid $500,000 (min) so he will go to school here and if I pay the foundation enough I can buy tickets to watch him play.
But if if my kids need some walk around money or a tutor or shoes or a meal (which athletes get from the athletic dept) they can get jobs right? We have lost our minds.
Fix the seats at bwa, put in cup holders, fix the audio, drop the in game hosts, and put the money into the team if you must instead of a renovation. If the team sucks no one is going to go anyway but RickB
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it still prohibited for "student athletes" to be paid directly by schools or athletic revenue? The Supreme Court said schools can't stop them from NIL, which is why that loophole opened and private money poured in, but I think official school payments are still NCAA prohibited. As long as there is an NCAA.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 17, 2024, 10:16 AMCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't it still prohibited for "student athletes" to be paid directly by schools or athletic revenue? The Supreme Court said schools can't stop them from NIL, which is why that loophole opened and private money poured in, but I think official school payments are still NCAA prohibited. As long as there is an NCAA.
it may be but rev share is the only way I can see this working out and it will take collective bargining.
Ironic that NCAA has nothing to do with Football oversight which is the sport that drives the money and started when the CFA broke off from the NCAA.
The conferences have all the power now but they want nothing to do with rule enforcement which is ultimately what the problem is - who sets the rules and then who will enforce them? We see schools break the rules all the time now so I don't know why if congress does make a national NIL rule anyone think then the issue is solved. Schools will still break the rules and who enforces it then if it's a federal law? I remember Long in a full staff meeting telling coaches if they didn't commit at least 12 rules violations (minor ones but still a violation is a violation) then we weren't trying hard enough.
Football is the issue and the playing field has never been level nor will it ever but how or can you seperate football and still fund all the other sports on campus?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 16, 2024, 06:33 AMBest case we go 3-4 in the final games. Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season. Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.
Yeah, we just dipped below and probably won't get back to it again. Well, I guess maybe if we beat Missouri and Vanderbilt back to back at home after losing to Aggy.
So pathetic.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 17, 2024, 11:25 AMit may be but rev share is the only way I can see this working out and it will take collective bargining.
Ironic that NCAA has nothing to do with Football oversight which is the sport that drives the money and started when the CFA broke off from the NCAA.
The conferences have all the power now but they want nothing to do with rule enforcement which is ultimately what the problem is - who sets the rules and then who will enforce them? We see schools break the rules all the time now so I don't know why if congress does make a national NIL rule anyone think then the issue is solved. Schools will still break the rules and who enforces it then if it's a federal law? I remember Long in a full staff meeting telling coaches if they didn't commit at least 12 rules violations (minor ones but still a violation is a violation) then we weren't trying hard enough.
Football is the issue and the playing field has never been level nor will it ever but how or can you seperate football and still fund all the other sports on campus?
Mr. Integrity telling coaches to commit violations. That's rich.
Saturday's game – if I wanted to go – what should I expect to pay? I literally thought with our season, and the SEC WINLESS Missourah Tigahs, it would be "next to free."
I use several ticket apps. The first I looked at TFL (TicketsForLess) starts at 50-something in the nosebleeds and 200 in the lower bowl. What. The. Fuck. This isn't Arkansas-Kentucky when we're both in the Top 10.
Then I checked SeatGeek and things are much more reasonable, numerous listings start in the 20s but those all look like upper deck.
There are several others I could check but thought I would crowd source for info first. Thoughts? What should I be paying? Also, in the current iteration of BWA, which I attend less than I do RRS, can you buy upper and sit lower if there are empty rows?
I used seat geek for the Tennessee game in the bud. $11 each for upper deck behind the goal. The fees and taxes weren't bad, $64 something was the checkout total.
So few people showed up we went down to the lower bowl on the side court after the game started and no one said a word. Granted, we didn't plop down in the front row either.
Quote from: BASS on Feb 21, 2024, 01:23 PM$11 each for upper deck behind the goal. The fees and taxes weren't bad, $64 something was the checkout total.
Thanks. I would pay 64 but nearly tripling the total from 22 to 64 doesn't seem reasonable in terms of fees and taxes.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 16, 2024, 06:33 AMBest case we go 3-4 in the final games. Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season. Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.
Not so fast. If we win our last 3 home games (Mizzou, Vandy and LSU)we go into SEC tournament 1 game above 500, so looks like 500 season at worst. Of course we'll probably do a WTF in one of those games :suicide:
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 21, 2024, 01:35 PMThanks. I would pay 64 but nearly tripling the total from 22 to 64 doesn't seem reasonable in terms of fees and taxes.
My bad, there were 4 of us.
I guess this is more important than winning games to keep the fans interested.
https://twitter.com/HunterYurachek/status/1760857719039197544?t=dES70ewfBTAnKgUidv5fAw&s=19
Quote from: HogOfWar on Feb 22, 2024, 11:31 PMI guess this is more important than winning games to keep the fans interested.
https://twitter.com/HunterYurachek/status/1760857719039197544?t=dES70ewfBTAnKgUidv5fAw&s=19
Why yes, yes it is.
Did they help him pray away the gay?
Oddly enough that approximates a position he has spent a lot of time in.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Feb 22, 2024, 11:31 PMI guess this is more important than winning games to keep the fans interested.
https://twitter.com/HunterYurachek/status/1760857719039197544?t=dES70ewfBTAnKgUidv5fAw&s=19
It is actually.
Quote from: egregious on Feb 23, 2024, 06:56 AMOddly enough that approximates a position he has spent a lot of time in.
Reverse cowboy? Yuck
Good for him. It is more important.
Must have been the Universal Unitarian Church.
This is a bullshit post and a bullshit observation. But nevertheless it's what struck me, when I wasn't even thinking about it, when I watched his post game presser.
After all I've heard about Devo recently, I can't unsee it. Or maybe I can't unhear it. It's definitely there.
https://youtu.be/GX-G8NWXVkk?si=VyckSerM9TNfaQHZ
Well, he is wearing the earring on the gay ear.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 16, 2024, 06:33 AMBest case we go 3-4 in the final games. Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season. Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.
A win tonight makes us 15-13. We have games @Kentucky, vs. LSU, and @Alabama to end the season. I'd like to say we can beat LSU but I remember what they did to us at their place (beat us by 21). I don't see us winning either road game, so whether or not it's a losing season comes down to LSU.
We're not in the next 4 out of the NCAAT. We're not even in the NIT projections. 16 teams go to the CBI in Daytona Beach; I doubt we get an invite to that.
This whole season can blow me.
I don't think this team is fighting for post season play. You would see some guys nope out if we went to the NIT or CBI but then that's been the case the whole season.
Uh, we barely beat the shittiest sec team in a decade at home in our last outing.
We may not beat vandy. We definitely won't beat anyone else.
Dreams of an NIT bid are laughable.
Quote from: BASS on Feb 27, 2024, 12:00 PMUh, we barely beat the shittiest sec team in a decade at home in our last outing.
We may not beat vandy. We definitely won't beat anyone else.
Dreams of an NIT bid are laughable.
We're gonna win the SEC tourney, get a bid, make a run, and beat Purdue for real.
Hogs by 90 2
Now we will have to beat LSU at home and beat either Kentucky or Alabama on the road to save a winning season.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 27, 2024, 10:12 PMNow we will have to beat LSU at home and beat either Kentucky or Alabama on the road to save a winning season.
Not happening, chief.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 27, 2024, 10:12 PMNow we will have to beat LSU at home and beat either Kentucky or Alabama on the road to save a winning season.
Absolute best case would be to win one of those. More likely Arkansas loses them all and gets blown out in the SEC tournament.
We're probably more likely to lose 3 and then go out in the first game of the SECT.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 28, 2024, 05:32 PMWe're probably more likely to lose 3 and then go out in the first game of the SECT.
Last night's performance against 2 win Vanderbilt where we gave up their most points of the year and their only SEC road win, is a big flashing sign that we're done.
You are correct 0-4 from here out.
It's a little different maybe since these days he can more or less completely turn over the roster if he wants to, but it is rare that you see a coach lose it this thoroughly and come back from it.
I just don't know what to make of things. But in football season Paul Finebaum was talking about Tittman and he said, "Last year was a mess. This year is a disaster." That seems like it could apply to the basketball program as equally as it did football.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 28, 2024, 05:51 PMIt's a little different maybe since these days he can more or less completely turn over the roster if he wants to, but it is rare that you see a coach lose it this thoroughly and come back from it.
I just don't know what to make of things. But in football season Paul Finebaum was talking about Tittman and he said, "Last year was a mess. This year is a disaster." That seems like it could apply to the basketball program as equally as it did football.
We are in new territory if you want to go ahead and blame NIL/portal and not the horrific coaching and recruiting/development.
He's the coach that got us back to relevance in the big dance 3 years in a row...so I have some degree of hope that he's going to get his shit together in the off-season. On the other hand given that this NIL shit greatly depends on viewers like you and me...the more losing this program does the less likely we're turning loose of that disposable hooker money. So that being said how do you recover from all this when players aren't moved by all the catfish they can eat offer or that sweet UAMS money for when you rip up your knee and you will.
Quote from: animal on Feb 28, 2024, 06:17 PMWe are in new territory if you want to go ahead and blame NIL/portal and not the horrific coaching and recruiting/development.
He's the coach that got us back to relevance in the big dance 3 years in a row...so I have some degree of hope that he's going to get his shit together in the off-season. On the other hand given that this NIL shit greatly depends on viewers like you and me...the more losing this program does the less likely we're turning loose of that disposable hooker money. So that being said how do you recover from all this when players aren't moved by all the catfish they can eat offer or that sweet UAMS money for when you rip up your knee and you will.
How about we get the baptist church to give a certain percentage of what is collected every time a player gets baptized. It's a win-win!
Quote from: HogOfWar on Feb 28, 2024, 06:39 PMHow about we get the baptist church to give a certain percentage of what is collected every time a player gets baptized. It's a win-win!
Jesus still loves you
Quote from: Usafhawg on Feb 28, 2024, 07:16 PMJesus still loves you
I know. I love Jesus, too.
I will give one example of bad coaching. Late second half we had cut the lead to 4 and Vandy was on the line. Their player missed the free throw and their big just muscled over Davenport for the rebound and put it back in for two. That play was essentially Davenport was overmatched size-wise to hold off the big by himself, the guard on the top block did not step down to help seal off the big man and help Davenport (he just sort of stepped straight out into the lane not even sealing off the shooter. Just being lazy), and Muss missed a chance to get Mitchell back in the game on the dead-ball foul shot.
Muss put Mitchell in on the next dead-ball but it was too late. We never got a chance till the very end 3-point heave.
Bad fundamentals on the block by the guard.
Our "Big" Davenport was overmatched by someone much bigger and stronger.
Coach didn't react fast enough to get some muscle back in the game at a critical momentum moment that might have been the difference between winning and losing.
Watching team after team have layup drills against us has gotten old. Seems like we're always someone's career high, or some team's only road win, or high point total for the year.
No matter how it finishes, this has been the weirdest basketball season ever.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Feb 29, 2024, 05:26 PMNo matter how it finishes, this has been the weirdest basketball season ever.
Blue Mountain State got me through it.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 29, 2024, 05:53 PMBlue Mountain State got me through it.
All the new links our newest greatest poster posted eased a lot of my pain.
Quote from: Spiderham on Feb 28, 2024, 09:50 PMI will give one example of bad coaching. Late second half we had cut the lead to 4 and Vandy was on the line. Their player missed the free throw and their big just muscled over Davenport for the rebound and put it back in for two. That play was essentially Davenport was overmatched size-wise to hold off the big by himself, the guard on the top block did not step down to help seal off the big man and help Davenport (he just sort of stepped straight out into the lane not even sealing off the shooter. Just being lazy), and Muss missed a chance to get Mitchell back in the game on the dead-ball foul shot.
Muss put Mitchell in on the next dead-ball but it was too late. We never got a chance till the very end 3-point heave.
Bad fundamentals on the block by the guard.
Our "Big" Davenport was overmatched by someone much bigger and stronger.
Coach didn't react fast enough to get some muscle back in the game at a critical momentum moment that might have been the difference between winning and losing.
I noticed at one point late in the game Kentucky ran the same inbounds play twice in a row and scored both times. It was a very simple play. Should not ever happen.
We get beat on inbound plays a lot. Why we don't switch is mind boggling.
Mike Anderson always had that play where we would oop it from an inbounds pass and it worked like once or twice. Then teams started smoking us with our own play...
Muss teams from what I've seen have traditionally done crappy defending inbounds
In about 15 more games this team would have things figured out.
We are in the bottom 4 with 6 wins or fewer, to play on Wednesday with Mizzou, Vandy, and Georgia.
If we win Saturday and A&M beats Ole Miss, we would tie Ole Miss at seven wins, theoretically being able to move out of the bottom four. But, Ole Miss beat us head to head, so we will definitely stay in the bottom four playing Wednesday.
Is this analysis correct?
And yes "if we win at Alabama" is part of the analysis, but it is slightly more likely than unicorn farts.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 07, 2024, 11:37 AMWe are in the bottom 4 with 6 wins or fewer, to play on Wednesday with Mizzou, Vandy, and Georgia.
If we win Saturday and A&M beats Ole Miss, we would tie Ole Miss at seven wins, theoretically being able to move out of the bottom four. But, Ole Miss beat us head to head, so we will definitely stay in the bottom four playing Wednesday.
Is this analysis correct?
And yes "if we win at Alabama" is part of the analysis, but it is slightly more likely than unicorn farts.
Head to head is the first tiebreaker, so you are correct.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 07, 2024, 11:54 AMHead to head is the first tiebreaker, so you are correct.
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Si.com has another one of those generic articles out today, but this one recaps the 2000 run and says "it could happen again" and is better than most of the SI AI articles.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2024, 01:05 PMSi.com has another one of those generic articles out today, but this one recaps the 2000 run and says "it could happen again" and is better than most of the SI AI articles.
Yeah, but that team won 4 games in 4 days. More than likely we would have to win 5 games in 5 days. That's never been done before.
SEC is much better now too.
Knowing this team starting last night we'll win 5 games in a row. :))
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2024, 01:05 PMSi.com has another one of those generic articles out today, but this one recaps the 2000 run and says "it could happen again" and is better than most of the SI AI articles.
That team had way more chemistry than this one does, however, and the SEC was radically different then than it is now.
I could see them making it to Saturday possibly, but that's as far as I think they'd get.
Quote from: HughJasole on Mar 07, 2024, 11:26 PMThat team had way more chemistry than this one does, however, and the SEC was radically different then than it is now.
I could see them making it to Saturday possibly, but that's as far as I think they'd get.
With this team, I could also see them losing Wednesday night to Vandy or Mizzou.
I am so tuned out that I didn't know when the SEC tournament is. I take it that it is next week.
With all the one and done's and portaling basketball is a raffle every year. In 10 years football will be too.
6 pm Wednesday SECN. Vandy of course.
From where we started this has to be the most disappointing basketball season in the history of my life.
We beat Purdue and I don't care both teams were trying and playing their asses off.
This team had the talent to be one of the nation's best but what we got was a symphony of dysfunction.
There should be a documentary on this team. I hope we get one someday.
I'll watch the tournament, I haven't cared about this team in weeks but now it's go time.
Can Muss pull off a miracle? This team CAN do it. It would be somewhat fitting for us to win this thing given how weird the season has been.
To make it worse, we also beat those fuckbois at Dook.
I think it's interesting this was my comment a year ago on social media.
"Another game. Another lead. Another collapse. So ready for this team to just move on."
Problem was we didn't replace them with better. Or maybe the wrong people stuck around.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Mar 10, 2024, 05:54 PMI think it's interesting this was my comment a year ago on social media.
"Another game. Another lead. Another collapse. So ready for this team to just move on."
Problem was we didn't replace them with better. Or maybe the wrong people stuck around.
The wrong kid died.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 10, 2024, 05:50 PMTo make it worse, we also beat those fuckbois at Dook.
that is the baffling one. beat them but lose to vandy at home when BWA is worth 10-15 points.
Also might have been the worst thing that could have happened to this team as they went south fast after that one.
Quote from: red death on Mar 10, 2024, 06:06 PMThe wrong kid died.
????
Trivia time.
Not a surprise to me – since we joined the SEC in 1991-92, we have the MOST SEC Tournament Championship game losses of anyone. Five total. We are the Champions of First Losers.
Somewhat of a surprise to me, the two teams tied for second, with four losses each. Without going to google, give it a try.
The next tier of two teams with three losses each, one was a complete surprise. The other seems like "yeah." Again, name them.
So old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 09:51 AMSo old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
It was kind of like this.... Awesome
https://youtu.be/09BfWjFs9n4?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 09:51 AMSo old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
I went to a couple under early Nolan. Good times indeed.
No trivia takers so:
Most championship game losses, 1992-present:
5 – Arkansas
4 – Kentucky, Florida
3 – Tennessee, A&M (they're closing on everyone else rapidly after getting a late start)
2 – Alabama, LSU, MS St., S Carolina (let's keep them from getting there this year)
1 – Georgia, Auburn, Ole Miss
0 – Missouri, Vanderbilt
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 09:51 AMSo old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
I went. Bought my tickets from TCU season ticket holders. It was never an even split. Hog fans outnumbered ALL the other teams combined from day one. Our numbers only increased as the tournament went on. In fact, during non-Arkansas games, cheerleaders from other teams would start hog calls to get Arkansas fans to cheer for them.
We ran the fucking show.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 14, 2024, 09:49 AMDream On (We are the Champions of First Losers)
Nobody ever shows the full song title on those halftime video ads.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 09:51 AMSo old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
We used to go every year. My parents would take me out of school to go/
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 09:51 AMSo old timers here. Some of my older relatives tell stories of the SWC tourney in Dallas.
That day one the fans were evenly split. Day two, a few more hog fans; etc. Then by the championship game it'd be barnhill south.
Any of y'all go to those? Must have been great.
I was at the last 3 SWC tourneys at Reunion. Hogs went 9-0 those 3 years, it was glorious.
We got Stackhouse fired, so we have that going for us.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 01:43 PMWe got Stackhouse fired, so we have that going for us.
I just saw that. He was COY just last year. Seems hasty to me, he had a shitty year but do they think they will find someone better?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 14, 2024, 01:43 PMWe got Stackhouse fired, so we have that going for us.
Has he blamed it on racism yet?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 14, 2024, 01:49 PMI just saw that. He was COY just last year. Seems hasty to me, he had a shitty year but do they think they will find someone better?
I don't think he really did much account there. Kevin Stallings was winning somewhat there prior to them hiring Bryce Drew.
I don't imagine academic schools do so hot in the NIL game but it probably depends on the fan following and alumni
https://x.com/cbbcontent/status/1768396355632771537?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 14, 2024, 05:18 PMhttps://x.com/cbbcontent/status/1768396355632771537?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
I'm old.
Why does that picture = portal?
I honestly don't remember why I should care about whether or not he leaves.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 14, 2024, 05:26 PMI honestly don't remember why I should care about whether or not he leaves.
I feel this about everything associated with our athletic department.
Yeah a picture of a whelmed player walking thru the tunnel of a stadium before, during, or after this shitshow game most likely = portal. Can't mean anything else.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 14, 2024, 05:25 PMI'm old.
Why does that picture = portal?
It's the backward Nike swoosh. It's the universal sign of basketball distress.
I don't know but thought it was interesting.
Not sure why he has not been playing.
"Even that year we were shitty, we beat Duke."
That's the only thing I will take forward from this year.
I fucking hate missing the tourney. HATE
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08 PMI fucking hate missing the tourney. HATE
Yeah it will be extremely difficult watch.
Hearing from a very good source that Battle is coming back.
Everyone else.... Up in the air.
Muss returns. All a bunch of internet rumors.
Quote from: Spiderham on Mar 14, 2024, 10:10 PMHearing from a very good source that Battle is coming back.
Everyone else.... Up in the air.
Muss returns. All a bunch of internet rumors.
I can believe all of that. I can also believe Muss goes to the West Coast, and Battle stays or goes. Either.
Quote from: Spiderham on Mar 14, 2024, 10:10 PMHearing from a very good source that Battle is coming back.
Everyone else.... Up in the air.
Muss returns. All a bunch of internet rumors.
Good! Surely he'll get back to tough smart players instead of a bunch of weak minded dumbasses.
I like that he said this in front of Muss, in front of the world. Regardless of what's going to happen w/ either of their whereabouts next year...no more off-court bullshit that spills onto the court.
https://twitter.com/hogstatic/status/1768418819498721440
There's an article out there with an interview with Devo post game. Devo pretty much said he wasn't allowed to play the way he wanted to. You often here Muss talk about player's playing their role. That's a big thing with him. That's pretty much what Battle was eluding to.
If you remember, Jordan Walsh made a very similar comment (to Devo's) after he left.
He wasn't allowed to play the way he wanted to? I guess that made him turn to wild passes and airballs.
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 15, 2024, 10:17 AMHe wasn't allowed to play the way he wanted to? I guess that made him turn to wild passes and airballs.
No shit, Musselman gave him until the season was ruined trying to let him play the way he wanted.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 15, 2024, 10:00 AMThere's an article out there with an interview with Devo post game. Devo pretty much said he wasn't allowed to play the way he wanted to. You often here Muss talk about player's playing their role. That's a big thing with him. That's pretty much what Battle was eluding to.
If you remember, Jordan Walsh made a very similar comment (to Devo's) after he left.
sounds like a psych eval needs to be a part of the recruiting process (if it already is get a new shrink)
Davis said he couldn't play his game the way he really wanted. Entering Thursday's game, Davis was averaging career lows in scoring, field goal attempts, field goal percentage, rebounds and steals.
"But I took it for the team and we still fell short, with me putting things under the cover, trying to do what's best for the team," Davis added. "We still didn't follow our expectations.
Whatever you say, Devo.
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 15, 2024, 10:17 AMHe wasn't allowed to play the way he wanted to? I guess that made him turn to wild passes and airballs.
He was forced to do that as part of Muss' style
Stanford coach is gone. Wonder iys there will be any interest in muss or if he's interested in them.
I'll say this about players. Over 4 years they don't typically get worse.
Devo is worse today than he was as a freshman. On that freshman squad he played the point and was a dynamic defender. He was really good. Something is wrong and it simply is not right to say it is 100% Devo.
I think Devo is a system guy. I think he excels in a traditional college system. He is not a one-on-one or a guy on an island player. He needs four other guys on the court doing basketball things within the confines of a system.
I think the individuals on the team gave up almost as soon as the season started because they realized their coach didn't give them a system to succeed in.
Everything we saw this year is at the feet of Muss.
I think the Battle interview after yesterday's game said it all. I think he was insinuating that we never played as a team. I think that is the thing when you sign too many 4 and 5 star players. They all want to be the hero and hardly ever gel as a team.
Devo is full of shit. He got more latitude than any player I've ever seen at Arkansas. With Nolan or Eddie his ass would have been on the bench and gone a long time ago.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 15, 2024, 12:10 PMI think the Battle interview after yesterday's game said it all. I think he was insinuating that we never played as a team. I think that is the thing when you sign too many 4 and 5 star players. They all want to be the hero and hardly ever gel as a team.
I don't know about that. Somehow Duke, Carolina and Kentucky can figure it out.
We sucked because individually we were too good. LOL.
Pinion gone.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 15, 2024, 12:53 PMPinion gone.
He was never going to get a lot of minutes. I hope he lands somewhere and has success, but it won't be at a major school.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Mar 15, 2024, 12:31 PMDevo is full of shit. He got more latitude than any player I've ever seen at Arkansas. With Nolan or Eddie his ass would have been on the bench and gone a long time ago.
No doubt they tried to turn him into a straight laced basketball player/ pg / defensive stopper and not some free styling circus show. He would have fit well into Mike's system.
You have to take some ownership on how you did play though. The coaches don't go out of the way to help you fail. They have huge incentives to make sure you succeed.Frankly if you couldn't do what the coaches were asking then you probably has little business playing at this level.
Devo will be remembered for the good years and will go down as another Razorback who had a shit season as a senior. Most of those guys were on the football team but I do recall Bradley and someone else getting they ass benched late in their careers for the young guys to play
Quote from: animal on Mar 15, 2024, 12:55 PMDevo will be remembered for the good years and will go down as another Razorback who had a shit season as a senior.
He has one more year. Hopefully his senior senior year is better.
I think Devo is the proverbial locker room cancer.
He was not a cancer his first four years. What makes you think he was a cancer this year? Because he didn't play gooder than the other years?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 15, 2024, 12:56 PMHe has one more year. Hopefully his senior senior year is better.
I'm not a Devo hater but I really hope he does not come back.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 15, 2024, 10:56 AMDavis said he couldn't play his game the way he really wanted. Entering Thursday's game, Davis was averaging career lows in scoring, field goal attempts, field goal percentage, rebounds and steals.
"But I took it for the team and we still fell short, with me putting things under the cover, trying to do what's best for the team," Davis added. "We still didn't follow our expectations.
Whatever you say, Devo.
He's easily my least favorite player ever.
I think Devo wanted that Kansas game high again.
Having to play as he was told rather than getting to chase after that high every time he had the ball probably explains his disaster of a year.
And of course, dropping the ball more often than not every time he had an opportunity this year.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 15, 2024, 01:01 PMHe was not a cancer his first four years. What makes you think he was a cancer this year? Because he didn't play gooder than the other years?
I would say he was a cancer last year too. His first two years where he wasn't expected to lead and didn't try to, he was good. When he became a junior and was expected to provide leadership and tried to assert himself as a leader, it was a train wreck.
Last year's team hugely underachieved and had obvious locker room issues but was still too talented to completely tank. This year was an absolute disaster.
This year looked exactly what I would expect a team where Devo was the leader to look like.
From a couple weeks ago in the game thread
https://x.com/BBakerHogs/status/1760322595776315413?s=20 (https://x.com/BBakerHogs/status/1760322595776315413?s=20)
Devo - 1 yr left - Please, God, no!
Battle - 1 yr left - I'd take him back as starting SG.
Mark - 2 yr left - He disappeared late this year, but was forced to play PG a lot of the time
Brazille - 2 yr left - softest 4 I've ever seen, team seemed to play better without him, maybe he still enters draft, I hope he leaves
Menefield - 2 yr left - best option at PG, but dominated by bigger guards, hopefully he sticks around, who misses games for academic reasons nowadays?
Pinion - 2 yr left - zero minutes on a team with poor 3pt shooting. He gone, best of luck at UALR
Blocker - 3 yr left - showed promise, good effort, then didn't make Muss' 8-man rotation, had several "WTF Devo-like moments
Fall - 3 yr left - a project - unlikely to contribute much until Jr or Sr year after he adds 30 pounds of muscle in weight room
Incoming Freshman
Jalen Shelley, 4 Star #19 SF 6-8 190 from Frisco, TX, playing at Link Academy in Branson
From 24/7: "Shelley is a long and lean lefty forward that is very talented. He has a good feel for the game and shows the ability to make plays with the ball in his hands. His offense usually comes in transition where he flourishes and has the insticts to make the right play. The biggest knock on him is his motivation to play with a elite motor. Shelley has the upside to play the game of basketball on an elite level but needs to add more aggression to his play. Asserting himself on a consistent basis and showing progression in transforming his potential into production will be vital and increase his chances of making an immediate impact in Fayetteville."
Isaiah Elohim, 4 Star #11 SF 6-5 190 from Sierra Canyon in CA
From 24/7 "A physically strong and tough wing, Isaiah Elohim burst onto the national scene early because of his ability to score from the mid range and around the rim. At 6-foot-5 he has good length, a strong body and well above average instincts for getting to the rim and scoring around defenders and through contact. He is an effective pull-up jump shooter from 17 feet and in who just needs more reps on his shot to become a more consistent shooter from deep. Elohim has battled injuries throughout his high school career but when he's available, his toughness, ability to get to the basket and penchant for putting up points in a hurry have always stood out. He's got a college ready frame and projects as an effective wing at the high major level."
That leaves 4 to 8 openings to get transfers from portal (depending on who stays). Muss has his work count out for him. Must get a true PG and at least 2-3 big- bodied PF/C Mitchell/Graham-type players
2024-2025 will be a make or break year for basketball and football.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 15, 2024, 12:10 PMI think the Battle interview after yesterday's game said it all. I think he was insinuating that we never played as a team. I think that is the thing when you sign too many 4 and 5 star players. They all want to be the hero and hardly ever gel as a team.
I saw that and thought it was pretty telling. The talent is there to be better than we are.
Quote from: bigpig on Mar 15, 2024, 12:55 PMHe was never going to get a lot of minutes. I hope he lands somewhere and has success, but it won't be at a major school.
I hope he does good wherever he goes. Seems like a good kid.
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Mar 15, 2024, 02:39 PMFrom a couple weeks ago in the game thread
https://x.com/BBakerHogs/status/1760322595776315413?s=20 (https://x.com/BBakerHogs/status/1760322595776315413?s=20)
Devo - 1 yr left - Please, God, no!
Battle - 1 yr left - I'd take him back as starting SG.
Mark - 2 yr left - He disappeared late this year, but was forced to play PG a lot of the time
Brazille - 2 yr left - softest 4 I've ever seen, team seemed to play better without him, maybe he still enters draft, I hope he leaves
Menefield - 2 yr left - best option at PG, but dominated by bigger guards, hopefully he sticks around, who misses games for academic reasons nowadays?
Pinion - 2 yr left - zero minutes on a team with poor 3pt shooting. He gone, best of luck at UALR
Blocker - 3 yr left - showed promise, good effort, then didn't make Muss' 8-man rotation, had several "WTF Devo-like moments
Fall - 3 yr left - a project - unlikely to contribute much until Jr or Sr year after he adds 30 pounds of muscle in weight room
Incoming Freshman
Jalen Shelley, 4 Star #19 SF 6-8 190 from Frisco, TX, playing at Link Academy in Branson
From 24/7: "Shelley is a long and lean lefty forward that is very talented. He has a good feel for the game and shows the ability to make plays with the ball in his hands. His offense usually comes in transition where he flourishes and has the insticts to make the right play. The biggest knock on him is his motivation to play with a elite motor. Shelley has the upside to play the game of basketball on an elite level but needs to add more aggression to his play. Asserting himself on a consistent basis and showing progression in transforming his potential into production will be vital and increase his chances of making an immediate impact in Fayetteville."
Isaiah Elohim, 4 Star #11 SF 6-5 190 from Sierra Canyon in CA
From 24/7 "A physically strong and tough wing, Isaiah Elohim burst onto the national scene early because of his ability to score from the mid range and around the rim. At 6-foot-5 he has good length, a strong body and well above average instincts for getting to the rim and scoring around defenders and through contact. He is an effective pull-up jump shooter from 17 feet and in who just needs more reps on his shot to become a more consistent shooter from deep. Elohim has battled injuries throughout his high school career but when he's available, his toughness, ability to get to the basket and penchant for putting up points in a hurry have always stood out. He's got a college ready frame and projects as an effective wing at the high major level."
That leaves 4 to 8 openings to get transfers from portal (depending on who stays). Muss has his work count out for him. Must get a true PG and at least 2-3 big- bodied PF/C Mitchell/Graham-type players
2024-2025 will be a make or break year for basketball and football.
We need some mens. Not 6-8 string-beans, but 6-8 to 6–10 dudes who can rebound. Who can be physical.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 15, 2024, 01:06 PMI'm not a Devo hater but I really hope he does not come back.
Please God, noooooo.
We need a 6-9 to 6-11 bad ass. Someone that can take over. Look at UConn last year and South Carolina this year.
College basketball still benefits from true post players.
https://x.com/coachingchanges/status/1768766868725088606?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Maybe he can't go anywhere?
Plus you have to take lil muss who was the director of recruiting this season.
Does that mean there's truth to the rumors that he was shopping himself around?
https://x.com/tobias_bass/status/1768807617533456874?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: flash23 on Mar 15, 2024, 08:23 PMDoes that mean there's truth to the rumors that he was shopping himself around?
Likely, this is the longest he has been one place. Not sure he is a long term guy or even a 5 year guy.
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/denijay-harris-enters-transfer-portal-arkansas-basketball-228720131/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=240315_191255_ArkansasRazorbacks&utm_content=Link&lctg=26140&eid=872ae11b078dcba40cd7d8319ee59b1c9f74009df85fe5046e58e10b4a0c3ec2 (https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/denijay-harris-enters-transfer-portal-arkansas-basketball-228720131/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=240315_191255_ArkansasRazorbacks&utm_content=Link&lctg=26140&eid=872ae11b078dcba40cd7d8319ee59b1c9f74009df85fe5046e58e10b4a0c3ec2)
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1768807548969247014?t=qmvtay0Zz97jRmxXzt_0oA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1768807548969247014?t=qmvtay0Zz97jRmxXzt_0oA&s=19)
https://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1768809881119654355?t=lIYcV1I5qAslbVnbAvKOrw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1768809881119654355?t=lIYcV1I5qAslbVnbAvKOrw&s=19)
Rats leaving the sinking ship it seems.
Pinion and Harris are not exactly stunning transfers. They only got a little more PT than I did this year
Menifield transfering is a little bit surprising but his staying home this weekend for "academic reasons" likely means he quit going to class.
Going to be a bunch more leave.
The portal has made college sports an absolute joke.
Neither Graham nor Ellis participated in Senior Night so I assume they're petitioning for another year. Does anyone know the timeline for those things? It seems like you have to make a decision on school by a certain time but the petition process sometimes drags out.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 15, 2024, 08:29 PMLikely, this is the longest he has been one place. Not sure he is a long term guy or even a 5 year guy.
Yeah but this is only his second college head coaching job. I think his and Petrino's resumes pre-Arkansas are pretty similar. Only difference is Muss was fired from his two HC gigs in the NBA, and Petrino left before Ahis pro job could fire him. Other than that, Muss has had a lot of stepping stones jobs. Maybe you're right and he just can't stay in one place for very long, but I didn't necessarily get the feeling that he was itching to leave. His demeanor this year was just like last year when we were losing.
The great migration has begun.
Not at all surprised about Pinion, and frankly I didn't know we had a guy named Denijay Harris. Don't ever remember seeing him play.
Of course the knock on Pinion was that he couldn't or didn't play defense. I guess we will find out.
And I am not sure what the story is with Menifield. Is it true he didn't go to Nashville?
Pinion will land at a mid major. If I were him, I'd try to go somewhere like Colgate/Vermont/Belmont. Solid teams that emphasize shooters.
Brazile is in pretty much every mock draft, and I'm assuming he's going to go through that evaluation process. But teams may be anxious to see him make it through a full, healthy season before they waste a pick.
Battle, Mark, Brazile, & Graham...plus if we could for once find an actually decent true point guard in the portal...that's not a bad starting 5 if Muss & them are on the same page.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 15, 2024, 08:59 PMBrazile is in pretty much every mock draft, and I'm assuming he's going to go through that evaluation process. But teams may be anxious to see him make it through a full, healthy season before they waste a pick.
Battle, Mark, Brazile, & Graham...plus if we could for once find an actually decent true point guard in the portal...that's not a bad starting 5 if Muss & them are on the same page.
I don't think any of them stay. Possibly Battle but he's probably gone too.
If
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 15, 2024, 09:03 PMI don't think any of them stay. Possibly Battle but he's probably gone too.
If they all leave you know damn good and well Muss is gone also.
It's gonna be interesting. If it's a mass exodus AND Muss leaves, oooof. Good luck getting a decent coach to come in.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 15, 2024, 08:46 PMThe portal has made college sports an absolute joke.
I think you mean NIL, which is driving the portal. But I could be wrong.
Some good Razorback player news (from several years ago)
Kikko going pro in General Surgery. Good luck young man!
https://x.com/akakikko/status/1768753744068722813?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 15, 2024, 09:08 PMI think you mean NIL, which is driving the portal. But I could be wrong.
Yes you are wrong.
Pay is not ruining the college game.
The ability to transfer without restriction, year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year, has completely ruined the game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 15, 2024, 09:06 PMIt's gonna be interesting. If it's a mass exodus AND Muss leaves, oooof. Good luck getting a decent coach to come in.
Why? We are in a lot better shape then when Muss came in.
Quote from: Spiderham on Mar 15, 2024, 09:17 PMSome good Razorback player news (from several years ago)
Kikko going pro in General Surgery. Good luck young man!
https://x.com/akakikko/status/1768753744068722813?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
Wow, that belongs in the Awesome thread also.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 15, 2024, 09:24 PMYes you are wrong.
Pay is not ruining the college game.
The ability to transfer without restriction, year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year, has completely ruined the game.
I agree. But there's also probably some degree of getting paid without having good performance, which should be the opposite of how NIL works IMO.
Quote from: PigSix on Mar 15, 2024, 09:36 PMWhy? We are in a lot better shape then when Muss came in.
Not if you don't have any players.
I agree on the transfer rule being a much bigger deal than NIL.
I think we can get a good coach too if Muss is gone. Facilities, history & very recent March history, fan base, ability to pay, etc...
And we can rebuild w/ that new coach relatively quickly bc of aforementioned bs transfer rules.
Look at LSU. Lost Will Wade and literally every scholarship player either to graduation or to the portal in 2022. Made a good mid-major hire, rebuilt the roster, year 1 was tough, but they were already competitive again here in year 2.
The portal giveth and the portal taketh away. But even worst case scenario is not a death sentence anymore.
Personally I hope Muss and the 4 aforementioned players have a come to Jesus. Highly unlikely. I just prefer multiyear players to one-year mercenaries. At least some semblance of "like it used to be."
https://twitter.com/koby_thiel/status/1768709205316571541?t=Tg3ziqe3o_xA1XB_Vlkd2A&s=19 (https://twitter.com/koby_thiel/status/1768709205316571541?t=Tg3ziqe3o_xA1XB_Vlkd2A&s=19)
I wonder if midfield
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 15, 2024, 08:38 PMhttps://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1768807548969247014?t=qmvtay0Zz97jRmxXzt_0oA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1768807548969247014?t=qmvtay0Zz97jRmxXzt_0oA&s=19)
I do wonder if he was an issue in the locker room, once he was eligible and started playing the team chemistry was never the same it seemed. All the mojo from the duke win was soon gone.
Muss isn't going anywhere. He's nobody's first choice.
This is the perfect storm for Muss to find an excuse to jet on out find a new/better NIL situation and sit back and say it wasn't him. UCLA, Stanford, and possibility USC could open. I don't know any of those solves much of a problem with NIL cache flows but if Muss is truly one to move on this may be the year he does it.
The way you build teams seems to be shifting sands in college basketball and football now so I struggle to place all the blame on this staff. I do feel like our administration and whomever we've outsourced our NIL shit to has dropped the ball big time and the football season proved that. What we saw with basketball season just reiterates that.
What's transpired during the season is a mess to say the least with guys opting for knee/gay management, rumored in-fighting, clearly guys not playing as a team thru-out the season. The coach has to get control of that shit and anyone with eyeballs could see. Muss flat out never had this team this season and I feel like he didn't really have the team from prior season either despite our Sweet 16 run. That's concerning.
So if he stays it's probably time to part ways with some of the staff. I figure Smart and possibly Brewer get moved on. I think Smart could possibly find a lower tier gig as a head coach. Todd Lee and Anthony Ruta have long time relationships with Muss...don't see them getting axed to leave. Lee developed Stanley Umude at South Dakota fwiw.
Is there a possible connection between Mike Muss and Brewer being our main recruiting directors/coordinators and our recruiting sucking? Muss needs to find some killers to put on his staff.
Quote from: animal on Mar 16, 2024, 08:27 AMThe way you build teams seems to be shifting sands in college basketball and football now so I struggle to place all the blame on this staff. I do feel like our administration and whomever we've outsourced our NIL shit to has dropped the ball big time and the football season proved that. What we saw with basketball season just reiterates that.
Saban said it after the CFP loss, instead of being hungry to get back to work and get better his players were just coming to ask how much money they could get next season. Basketball is the same, and we're never going to give it the NIL attention it requires.
I think the odds are against Muss moving on this year. But if I were Hunter Yurachek, I sure would be prepared for it with a short list.
Quote from: animal on Mar 16, 2024, 08:27 AMIs there a possible connection between Mike Muss and Brewer being our main recruiting directors/coordinators and our recruiting sucking? Muss needs to find some killers to put on his staff.
Does our recruiting suck? Was the NSJ/Walsh/Black class not the best in school history?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:02 AMDoes our recruiting suck? Was the NSJ/Walsh/Black class not the best in school history?
Yes it was but the question now is are you better off with top 20 recruits that will stay a year or slightly lower rated ones that will stay 2. The answer to that may have changed out from under Muss and if it did change it might change again. This has turned really complicated.
Quote from: egregious on Mar 16, 2024, 09:53 AMYes it was but the question now is are you better off with top 20 recruits that will stay a year or slightly lower rated ones that will stay 2. The answer to that may have changed out from under Muss and if it did change it might change again. This has turned really complicated.
Yet there's no guarantee you'll get them for the second year since they're free agents.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2024, 08:58 AMI think the odds are against Muss moving on this year. But if I were Hunter Yurachek, I sure would be prepared for it with a short list.
I agree. I saw a tweet, I think from one of the media members but I can't remember who, saying that it's no secret that he has been shopping, but with some of the other comments in that thread I kind of interpreted it as Muss trying to get a new contract from Hunter for more money. Oats and SC's coach both just recently signed a big extension and maybe Muss is wanting some of that reassurance from the AD. And money, of course.
I do wonder if he leaves if we try to go after Sampson again. He was who I wanted before Mike even got fired. I thought it would have been a sure thing since Yurachek hired him at Houston.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:02 AMDoes our recruiting suck? Was the NSJ/Walsh/Black class not the best in school history?
I'd say is trending down but we'll know more about that in the coming month or two.
I think we need swift decision making from a standpoint of who's staying and who goes. Obviously some of these dudes already moved on and I imagine a few more will follow.
I'm ok if Brazil moves on...to me he's not an NBA player but certainly he could still blossom just don't know that we need to put our eggs in that basket case again.
I get that players want their bag, but on the other hand they have to understand that is not free money for showing up and then giving a half ass effort.
Knowing how we roll, Pinion will transfer to Ole Miss and become another Keith Carter.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Mar 16, 2024, 10:32 AMKnowing how we roll, Pinion will transfer to Ole Miss and become another Keith Carter.
If Pinion ends up at another P5 school I will be surprised. He's just not very good.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 16, 2024, 10:39 AMIf Pinion ends up at another P5 school I will be surprised. He's just not very good.
Like Vanover but without the height or the shooting ability
Quote from: flash23 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:58 AMI agree. I saw a tweet, I think from one of the media members but I can't remember who, saying that it's no secret that he has been shopping, but with some of the other comments in that thread I kind of interpreted it as Muss trying to get a new contract from Hunter for more money. Oats and SC's coach both just recently signed a big extension and maybe Muss is wanting some of that reassurance from the AD. And money, of course.
I hope this is bad info, or a joke. Asking for a contract extension/money/reassurance off an underachieving losing season should be met with laughter or side-eye. It's certainly the kind of thing that makes a fan say, I'm out.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 16, 2024, 10:39 AMIf Pinion ends up at another P5 school I will be surprised. He's just not very good.
White guy not good enough to play at Arkansas = a solidly average to slightly above average player at a school we see at least twice a year who looks like an NBA Allstar whenever we play them.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2024, 10:51 AMI hope this is bad info, or a joke. Asking for a contract extension/money/reassurance off an underachieving losing season should be met with laughter or side-eye. It's certainly the kind of thing that makes a fan say, I'm out.
I'm probably just spreading fake news. The comments I interpreted as that could have just been full of shit too.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/ (https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/)
Sorriest bunch of turds to ever wear the uniform here. Hard to imagine a scenario where Muss can get it turned around here.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 16, 2024, 11:47 AMhttps://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/
"Every one whose last name is 'Battle', take one step forward. Ok, now the rest of you go fuck off to somewhere else."
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 16, 2024, 11:46 AMhttps://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/ (https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-source-players-meeting-disrespect-arkansas-vs-south-carolina/)
Sorriest bunch of turds to ever wear the uniform here. Hard to imagine a scenario where Muss can get it turned around here.
You can't possibly fathom one scenario where Muss turns it around? I've never seen anyone have less of a grip on their emotions than you.
Quote from: flash23 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:58 AMI do wonder if he leaves if we try to go after Sampson again. He was who I wanted before Mike even got fired. I thought it would have been a sure thing since Yurachek hired him at Houston.
Mark me down as a no for hiring a 69 year old as our next head coach.
I wanted Sampson as well. He's a helluva coach. If I remember right, he wants his kid to succeed him when he retires and many have a problem with that.
I'm not going to be a prisoner of the moment here. Muss has delivered an elite 8 and two other trips to the 16 and no other coach we've had since Nolan sniffed that level of success. One bad season is difficult to swallow but I know the competitor Muss is...this shit is not sitting well. So I'm going to pretend this is all going to get fixed for now.
Player development. We have none. Pinion and Devo are the only multiyear players we have.
Neither has gotten better. It's easy to argue both are worse than when they were in high school.
I'm not sure exactly what muss' overall strategy is, but making better basketball players isn't a part of that.
Teaching chemistry isn't either.
This isn't the NBA where you only have X's and O's to coach into polished developed players that are mature grown men.
I was a big believer in muss. Last year made me question him more than I'd like to admit.
This year has pushed me to the dark side. I hope he moves on because I am convinced by his own hand that muss can't get it done here. He's been good at capturing lightning in a bottle now and then and that's is about all he's convinced me of.
Something about this year just seems like Muss lost control of the team. Things just seemed way off. I want him to reload and kick ass next year.
Quote from: flash23 on Mar 16, 2024, 12:30 PMYou can't possibly fathom one scenario where Muss turns it around? I've never seen anyone have less of a grip on their emotions than you.
How is that an emotional statement? Just an observation. Doesn't effect me either way I already quit giving academically and athletically I've got better things to do.
That quote from the Carolina player leads me to think Musselman is toast.
"Shit's easy. It's just iso ball."
That's pathetic and reminiscent of USC players when Nutt was coach.
We all saw it this year and he gets an F. He failed. Period.
The past is the past. I appreciate what he's done here. But he was not a good coach here this year and it's concerning for sure whether he even believes he can turn it around.
I think he takes the coward way myself. I think he bolts. Just my opinion.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 16, 2024, 01:58 PMHow is that an emotional statement? Just an observation. Doesn't effect me either way I already quit giving academically and athletically I've got better things to do.
This is me. I don't support anymore.
I take free tickets when they come to me and I watch mostly but I don't plan around them like I used to.
I would rather go to the lanes and hear that sweet sound of my big ball rolling like thunder smashing those white pins. It's a lot of fun watching my wife's butt too.
If you have a lady take her bowling and make a comment about you like watching her butt when she bowls. You'll knock out more than pins.
Who knew Woopig was the home of Donny Kerabatsos and Ernie McCracken.
If he wants to leave, let him.
This program can win, he proved that the previous 3 years.
Losing Clay and Gus off the staff hurt, not sure the replacements are or have been equal.
The roster they built this season was a failure and that is coming off 3 straight sweet 16s, a down year I get but a losing season?
Like Nolan always said "you gotta fed the monster"
I hope he can turn it round but I am not sure this staff as is can.
The coaching x and os this year was Pel level stuff - keep doing the same stuff over and over and hoping it will suddenly work.
If leaves, Chris beard best be the first call.
This is a job people would want
Quote from: BASS on Mar 16, 2024, 01:19 PMPlayer development. We have none. Pinion and Devo are the only multiyear players we have.
Neither has gotten better. It's easy to argue both are worse than when they were in high school.
I'm not sure exactly what muss' overall strategy is, but making better basketball players isn't a part of that.
Teaching chemistry isn't either.
This isn't the NBA where you only have X's and O's to coach into polished developed players that are mature grown men.
I was a big believer in muss. Last year made me question him more than I'd like to admit.
This year has pushed me to the dark side. I hope he moves on because I am convinced by his own hand that muss can't get it done here. He's been good at capturing lightning in a bottle now and then and that's is about all he's convinced me of.
Steve Kerr disagrees.
Chris Beard just signed a new contract with Ole Piss. Scratch him off the wish list if Muss moves on.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Mar 16, 2024, 06:53 PMChris Beard just signed a new contract with Ole Piss. Scratch him off the wish list if Muss moves on.
Depends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 16, 2024, 08:48 PMDepends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing
Not like it would be the first time for him to jump ship after a new contract.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 16, 2024, 08:48 PMDepends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing
The state of Mississippi apparently allows schools to hide their coaches contracts from FOIA through their athletic foundations.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 17, 2024, 09:51 AMThe state of Mississippi apparently allows schools to hide their coaches contracts from FOIA through their athletic foundations.
How can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment. That is essentially what the school is saying.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 11:04 AMHow can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment. That is essentially what the school is saying.
I agree. It seems sketchy at best.
Some journalists tried to get the info from OM regarding Beard's buyout on his original deal and kept getting stonewalled for this reason.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 11:04 AMHow can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment. That is essentially what the school is saying.
I'm assuming his actual salary(which is probably minimal) from the school is public info but the portion from the "Rebel Foundation" is what they aren't disclosing.
In that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation? He technically has two employers?
I wonder who holds out and pays taxes. Does he receive two W-2s?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 17, 2024, 11:40 AMI'm assuming his actual salary(which is probably minimal) from the school is public info but the portion from the "Rebel Foundation" is what they aren't disclosing.
If they are paying in public money then I'd think there would be no basis to reject FOIA requests. Then again in Arkansas our new governor is passing laws to help insulate her shenanigans with state funds from what I understand. This may help in aid with coaches salaries in the future?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 12:00 PMIn that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation? He technically has two employers?
I wonder who holds out and pays taxes. Does he receive two W-2s?
Same thing is done at Arkansas. State employees are capped at something around $300k for maximum salary. So coaches are employees of the school and employees of the foundation.
This has been done at Arkansas for at least forty years. I thought everyone knew this.
Beards agent knows how much it is. He's the only one that matters. If Muss leaves, surely we can outbid Mississippi.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 12:00 PMIn that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation? He technically has two employers?
I wonder who holds out and pays taxes. Does he receive two W-2s?
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's how we've done it for years. Muss's salary from the U of A may be $500k and the other ~4MM comes from a contract with the Razorback Foundation which is a private entity.
Edit: Whyte Boar beat me to it and explained it better.
People thought Bert's buyout was one thing because of the contract he had with the school. Then they discovered it was something else because someone had made a cut-and-paste error and failed to paste the same language into the Foundation contract.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 17, 2024, 12:14 PMBeards agent knows how much it is. He's the only one that matters. If Muss leaves, surely we can outbid Mississippi.
Why would you think we could outbid Mississippi?
We kept Pittman, what makes anyone think we'd pay Beard's buyout to hire him?
Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 03:46 PMWhy would you think we could outbid Mississippi?
Why would you think we couldn't if we chose to do so?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 17, 2024, 03:56 PMWhy would you think we couldn't if we chose to do so?
Recent coaching hires and our broke ass NIL.
Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 04:07 PMRecent coaching hires and our broke ass NIL.
Extenuating circumstances on the coaching hires. We have always paid well when coaches perform. We're paying a hell of a lot more per win than most of the league, in football at least.
This isn't football though. We have yet to cheap out on basketball.
I believe there is a faction that provides a ton of our money for NIL and the like who realizes that we will never be a national power in football and directs their investments towards sports where success is a legitimate possibility.
Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 03:46 PMWhy would you think we could outbid Mississippi?
They just had to pay Joey Freshwater.
It is Ole Miss, so the question is...is Sexton Beard's agent?
I missed the selection show. Did we get in?
Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 04:07 PMRecent coaching hires and our broke ass NIL.
What makes you think our NIL is broke?
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Mar 17, 2024, 07:16 PMI missed the selection show. Did we get in?
Coincidentally we got the same bowl game we did last year.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 07:17 PMWhat makes you think our NIL is broke?
That clown McPherson has said it a few times but I'm not sure he knows a damn thing.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Mar 17, 2024, 07:16 PMI missed the selection show. Did we get in?
Check the other thread.
We're slotted for the Nether Region against BABU.
Bea Arthur's Butthole U.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 07:17 PMWhat makes you think our NIL is broke?
I keep hearing it is not well funded. Don't know if "broke" is appropriate. Maybe just not as much as other schools.
https://x.com/PlamsAbt/status/1769523276357714365?t=IS5FbcEofCsXAU8dhC2G2w&s=07
To me, this kind of article is pointless unless it names names. Which it doesn't. I even want to know the name of the guy in North Texas who was in film school.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-musselman-cut-players-portal?fbclid=IwAR2xxHJFTWQ7QuD2hp7WjgiFU5xlJ6dpZGkE-fZMT5KnXJgzqicGsnGMo8Q
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 18, 2024, 09:16 AMTo me, this kind of article is pointless unless it names names. Which it doesn't. I even want to know the name of the guy in North Texas who was in film school.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-musselman-cut-players-portal?fbclid=IwAR2xxHJFTWQ7QuD2hp7WjgiFU5xlJ6dpZGkE-fZMT5KnXJgzqicGsnGMo8Q
I have to assume that guy was Meat Loaf. Or maybe Paul Blake.
Are we going to lose Muss?
If so, it's just weird. I think our fans were remarkably supportive in a down year.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Mar 18, 2024, 09:47 AMAre we going to lose Muss?
If so, it's just weird. I think our fans were remarkably supportive in a down year.
I'm sure Muss is on some schools lists but I doubt he is at the top of any big school's potential hires.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Mar 18, 2024, 09:47 AMAre we going to lose Muss?
If so, it's just weird. I think our fans were remarkably supportive in a down year.
I think it's safe to say that the rumors of him pursuing the Louisville job are true but I'm not sure they want him. He certainly isn't their first choice.
Other than that, no other current openings make any sense unless he's just desperate to leave. I could see him going to ASU if they fire Hurley.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 18, 2024, 10:42 AMI think it's safe to say that the rumors of him pursuing the Louisville job are true but I'm not sure they want him. He certainly isn't their first choice.
Other than that, no other current openings make any sense unless he's just desperate to leave. I could see him going to ASU if they fire Hurley.
Leaving the program in shambles would be a pretty shitty move.
I think he's sincere with his statements about preparing for next year. We'll see if it works or if there's some sort of systemic flaw.
I will say this-- if he does leave this year, Arkansas fans will turn on him quickly. He's kinda getting a pass for this year as it is, but leaving would be the final insult.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 18, 2024, 10:46 AMLeaving the program in shambles would be a pretty shitty move.
I think he's sincere with his statements about preparing for next year. We'll see if it works or if there's some sort of systemic flaw.
I'm hoping he can use it to leverage more money to buy players and then sign an extension with a normal buyout. Wishful thinking though.
It is odd that he hasn't signed an extension since his current contract was signed after the 2021 season.
I think that rebuilding most of your team every year with portal transfers and/or elite freshmen is always going to create a randomness and he's a great coach who had a dud, just like Bruce Pearl did a couple years back.
Leaving when your stock is down would make no sense unless you truly had a conflict with administration, and no school will provide the same level of tolerance to having a losing season and overall fan support/facilities.
I find it perplexing but maybe it's the usual negotiating tactics. His wife deleting her twitter account and him taking Ark references off his instagram account were odd to me.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 18, 2024, 10:55 AMI will say this-- if he does leave this year, Arkansas fans will turn on him quickly. He's kinda getting a pass for this year as it is, but leaving would be the final insult.
Well, obviously.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Mar 18, 2024, 11:01 AMI find it perplexing but maybe it's the usual negotiating tactics. His wife deleting her twitter account and him taking Ark references off his instagram account were odd to me.
Didn't know about that. Maybe they just went to the Pitboss for advice.
Pretty sure he never had references on Instagram. They literally made the wife the spokesperson for any and everything Arkansas related. Stuff she has no qualifications whatsoever to discuss.
I could see him leaving to get closer to his mom. Tempe would have a lot of quick charters. Louisville has never made sense as Arkansas is a better job.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 18, 2024, 11:32 AMPretty sure he never had references on Instagram. They literally made the wife the spokesperson for any and everything Arkansas related. Stuff she has no qualifications whatsoever to discuss.
Isn't she a news lady or something, former basketball player, etc etc. I'd say she's probably a lot more into PR than I am but perhaps not you. Do you really need to be expert by birthright to represent the Natty State?
All I'll say beyond that is they were 100% all in on Nevada until 5 minutes worth of notice that they were headed out to Arkansas. The same will probably happen here but perhaps not this season. This is what we do though...we can't stand it. The coaching search thread, the thrill of the hunt. Lets face it if we aren't hunting for a new coach every 5 years it drives most of us nuts. For some it drives to The Nutts.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 18, 2024, 11:32 AMPretty sure he never had references on Instagram.
Well here where it says Head Coach. It never said anything more? About Arkansas or Razorbacks or Arkansas Razorbacks?
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Quote from: Lurk on Mar 18, 2024, 03:40 PMI could see him leaving to get closer to his mom. Tempe would have a lot of quick charters. Louisville has never made sense as Arkansas is a better job.
They have three titles, 8 final 4's, plenty of money, and a basketball state.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 18, 2024, 05:50 PMThey have three titles, 8 final 4's, plenty of money, and a basketball state.
They'll always live in Kentucky's shadow.
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 18, 2024, 07:04 PMThey'll always live in Kentucky's shadow.
We don't?
Quote from: Rocky Mountain Hog on Mar 18, 2024, 07:20 PMWe don't?
Yeah. It's like Auburn will always live in Alabama's shadow in football..... But that's not a reason to choose Arkansas over Auburn as a football coach, if you have a choice.
Quote from: Rocky Mountain Hog on Mar 18, 2024, 07:20 PMWe don't?
Not from a support stand point. There you're battling NIL with another school a couple hours away. Fan support for Louisville doesn't compare to Arkansas wither. Of course, that's a double edge sword.
Louisville has plenty of money and the Yum! Center seats more than BWA.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 18, 2024, 08:04 PMLouisville has plenty of money and the Yum! Center seats more than BWA.
Yum! Has an exclusive contract with Pepsi. So no Diet Coke.
Rumors can't be true.
Yum brands used to be owned by PepsiCo, so yeah, you'll never see coke products at pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, nor anything they sponsor.
What year of school is the Musselman's daughter in? I know it's a vagabond lifestyle, but maybe they'll stay until she graduates from high school.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 18, 2024, 09:16 AMTo me, this kind of article is pointless unless it names names. Which it doesn't. I even want to know the name of the guy in North Texas who was in film school.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/razorbacks-musselman-cut-players-portal?fbclid=IwAR2xxHJFTWQ7QuD2hp7WjgiFU5xlJ6dpZGkE-fZMT5KnXJgzqicGsnGMo8Q
In classic Arkansas form, the "journalists" will only talk legitimate shit about them when they're gone.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 19, 2024, 01:39 PMWhat year of school is the Musselman's daughter in? I know it's a vagabond lifestyle, but maybe they'll stay until she graduates from high school.
I believe 8th or 9th grade.
Devo is entering the transfer portal
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 20, 2024, 12:38 PMDevo is entering the transfer portal
Thank you.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 20, 2024, 12:38 PMDevo is entering the transfer portal
*insert portal joke here*
**insert portal joke* is actually a portal joke*
He'll transfer to a rival and deliver a dagger at the end of regulation next year. It's prophecy.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 20, 2024, 01:13 PMHe'll transfer to a rival and deliver a dagger at the end of regulation next year. It's prophecy.
This whole situation just yells "Devo to a&m"
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 20, 2024, 12:38 PMDevo is entering the transfer portal
Good. He quit on the team twice, expects to be babied. Get that cancer off the team and maybe we can heal for next year. GTFO
Well I've said this before but if he is a "cancer" I figure he'll be getting minimal interest from the big schools and some of the better mid-majors aren't going to be overly impressed either. That leaves UAPB or LRU
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Mar 20, 2024, 07:14 PMGood. He quit on the team twice, expects to be babied. Get that cancer off the team and maybe we can heal for next year. GTFO
He saw that the Bama football player left and came back and thought, "Aw hell no! That's MY move."
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Mar 19, 2024, 04:27 PMI believe 8th or 9th grade.
That's a perfect age to move. It's juniors and seniors that it's gets gnarly.
Blocker portalling
Quote from: pigtacular on Mar 21, 2024, 02:03 PMBlocker portalling
Rumor is he is going to Tulane.
Quote from: pigtacular on Mar 21, 2024, 02:03 PMBlocker portalling
Was hoping to keep him. Needed to work on his shot, but could play good defense.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 21, 2024, 02:07 PMRumor is he is going to Tulane.
That was one of his offers before Arkansas. A struggling Tulane doesn't sound like the program to bounce to over a struggling Arkansas.
Hate to lose him, but he may have been told in post-season sit down meetings he might never be a starter here and knows he can there. Who knows.
Not surprised but also more evidence of terrible recruiting and or development by this staff. Kid has potential and may round into a good player but he was not a legit day 1 rotation player on an SEC caliber team. I felt like Ford was better.
Muss is gonna leave a real dumpster fire isn't he
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 21, 2024, 03:00 PMMuss is gonna leave a real dumpster fire isn't he
Would your describe what he's had the last 4 months any other way?
All the best for Blocker. He looked good when he got on the court. Just needs some time with a shooting coach, which apparently we don't have.
Muss being linked to SMU.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 21, 2024, 03:57 PMMuss being linked to SMU.
Now that they are an ACC school..that might actually not be far fetched
I fully believe he's trying to put pressure on the administration to give him a raise and extension. Who knows if he's bluffing, but so far we aren't seeing as much chatter with the staff contacting guys in the portal.
I can see a guy like Will Wade going to SMU, though.
He doesn't deserve a raise and extension.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 21, 2024, 04:15 PMHe doesn't deserve a raise and extension.
Yeah, he can go ahead and leave if he expects that.
He's one of the 10 highest paid coaches in the country. Currently it's looking like we need to add 10 bodies to fill out a roster. If we give an extension and raise we're complete morons.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Mar 21, 2024, 03:57 PMMuss being linked to SMU.
https://x.com/fqarkansas/status/1770935976128373212?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
I'd almost be ok with this if we can hurry this up and get into the Dusty May running.
Quote from: animal on Mar 21, 2024, 07:12 PMI'd almost be ok with this if we can hurry this up and get into the Dusty May running.
Would you take May over Muss? He caught lightning in a bottle last year. Brought back the same group and underachieved. Before last year was mediocre at best.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 21, 2024, 07:31 PMWould you take May over Muss? He caught lightning in a bottle last year. Brought back the same group and underachieved. Before last year was mediocre at best.
We will see if they really underachieved. The conference was pretty competitive this year. I think they could give UConn a battle in the second round.
He was 66-56 the four years before. He hit on one transfer class.
He would've been ran out of Arkansas after his 2nd year with those resilts.
I hope Muss comes back.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 21, 2024, 07:31 PMWould you take May over Muss? He caught lightning in a bottle last year. Brought back the same group and underachieved. Before last year was mediocre at best.
I think you are more likely to strike lightning in a bottle with the coaches in their late 30s to early 50s. Certainly the really good ones can carry on a while. Guys like Muss get that itch to move on and clearly he's chasing money and job security after a shit season in which HE FUCKED THE DOG. Who in the hell leaves an Arkansas gig for fucking SMU? What the actually fuck. Does the Louisville thing really fly. I guess maybe momma wants to live in the big city market and he doesn't have to go far to find good talent. Not a terrible gig I guess going into the ACC. Maybe the Arkansas gig isn't the gig it once was.
My Short List...and I'm leaving plenty out that I don't figure we could get.
Tier 1
T. J. Otzelberger
Greg Gard
Preston Spradlin
Dusty May
Tier 2
Andy Kennedy
Kevin Kruger
Steve Forbes
Somebodies killer assistant I've never heard of that know$ how to get things done
Quote from: flash23 on Mar 21, 2024, 04:06 PMI fully believe he's trying to put pressure on the administration to give him a raise and extension. Who knows if he's bluffing, but so far we aren't seeing as much chatter with the staff contacting guys in the portal.
I can see a guy like Will Wade going to SMU, though.
We better fucking call his bluff
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 21, 2024, 06:25 PMhttps://x.com/fqarkansas/status/1770935976128373212?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Well, bye
Quote from: animal on Mar 21, 2024, 08:19 PMI think you are more likely to strike lightning in a bottle with the coaches in their late 30s to early 50s. Certainly the really good ones can carry on a while. Guys like Muss get that itch to move on and clearly he's chasing money and job security after a shit season in which HE FUCKED THE DOG. Who in the hell leaves an Arkansas gig for fucking SMU? What the actually fuck. Does the Louisville thing really fly. I guess maybe momma wants to live in the big city market and he doesn't have to go far to find good talent. Not a terrible gig I guess going into the ACC. Maybe the Arkansas gig isn't the gig it once was.
My Short List...and I'm leaving plenty out that I don't figure we could get.
Tier 1
T. J. Otzelberger
Greg Gard
Preston Spradlin
Dusty May
Tier 2
Andy Kennedy
Kevin Kruger
Steve Forbes
Somebodies killer assistant I've never heard of that know$ how to get things done
I wanted to post Andy Kennedy a while back when rumors started to surface about Muss leaving. But I didn't want to post a duck for cover gif, neither.
I would take AK in a heartbeat. His players have always played hard for him. But he's never been at a winning program or a program w/ real resources. He's only in his mid 50s.
Definitely Kennedy over May. May seems like a Stan Heath recency hire.
where was the extension when we were winning? Why now? that logic makes the pittman extension even worse.
I call bullshit on muss turning down louisville. they have had Dusty May #1 on their list and it appears to be done.
if he wants to go to SMU let him.
everyone portalling out to going mid-major or lower which means the talent eval was garbage.
if Muss does leave and Hunter pulls a pittman type hire instead of landing a big time coach, he can hit the bricks too.
Screw Muss if he wants to go to SMU. Bunch of little rich kids there.
They will never have the passion of an Arkansas crowd.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 21, 2024, 09:07 PMScrew Muss if he wants to go to SMU. Bunch of little rich kids there.
They will never have the passion of an Arkansas crowd.
exactly, anyone who is worried about the program is an idiot and has no concept that this is a national respected and proven winning program. This is not a pie in the sky bullshit program.
SMU is an awful fit for Muss.
I hope he leaves. He's a turd. Oh sure his poor sportsmanship and lunatic sideline demeanor we could swallow when he was going to the elite 8 but now?
He's a shitty person see San Diego and now he wants a raise after having the worst season since Pelphrey?
He's always been a shitty fucker. That's why he was basically a grad assistant when hie antics got him run out of the NBA, which he only got because of his dad.
I hope he reads this next part:
Eric go fuck yourself. Or sign your damn contract and be lucky you have a job after that abortion you put us through and get your ass to work. And take your wife with you she's a big phony too. I read people for a living I can tell.
Quote from: animal on Mar 21, 2024, 08:19 PMI think you are more likely to strike lightning in a bottle with the coaches in their late 30s to early 50s. Certainly the really good ones can carry on a while. Guys like Muss get that itch to move on and clearly he's chasing money and job security after a shit season in which HE FUCKED THE DOG. Who in the hell leaves an Arkansas gig for fucking SMU? What the actually fuck. Does the Louisville thing really fly. I guess maybe momma wants to live in the big city market and he doesn't have to go far to find good talent. Not a terrible gig I guess going into the ACC. Maybe the Arkansas gig isn't the gig it once was.
My Short List...and I'm leaving plenty out that I don't figure we could get.
Tier 1
T. J. Otzelberger
Greg Gard
Preston Spradlin
Dusty May
Tier 2
Andy Kennedy
Kevin Kruger
Steve Forbes
Somebodies killer assistant I've never heard of that know$ how to get things done
I believe Otzelberger's buyout is $17MM so you can scratch him off.
Bucky McMillan (Samford) bares watching too but probably need a larger sample size.
If your girl, who is pretty good looking and used to give you a good BJ, is actually contemplating giving the ugly chubby guy a handy in the parking lot after work, do you really want her to stay and beg her not to leave?
Quote from: Guardrail on Mar 22, 2024, 06:36 AMIf your girl, who is pretty good looking and used to give you a good BJ, is actually contemplating giving the ugly chubby guy a handy in the parking lot after work, do you really want her to stay and beg her not to leave?
Is it better or worse, if she's only threatening to do that to make you jealous and to make you say that you love her?
Quote from: animal on Mar 22, 2024, 06:31 AMBucky McMillan (Samford) bares watching too but probably need a larger sample size.
Sorry, but I'm not watching any dude do anything bare, I don't care the size of his sample.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 21, 2024, 09:39 PMSMU is an awful fit for Muss.
I don't know about that.
They have money for NIL. Going to a basketball first league. Have always been willing to stretch academic standards for the right athletes.
His sister is apparently engaged to a fairly significant SMU booster as well.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 22, 2024, 08:08 AMI don't know about that.
They have money for NIL. Going to a basketball first league. Have always been willing to stretch academic standards for the right athletes.
His sister is apparently engaged to a fairly significant SMU booster as well.
All the oldest money will lose there minds if he goes because they will have SWC flashbacks and then there is the whole Arkansas obsession with all things Dallas.
Still, to go from 3 straight sweet 16s to a below 500 is a massive failure. There are better coaches out there.
Quote from: red death on Mar 21, 2024, 11:06 PMI hope he leaves. He's a turd. Oh sure his poor sportsmanship and lunatic sideline demeanor we could swallow when he was going to the elite 8 but now?
He's a shitty person see San Diego and now he wants a raise after having the worst season since Pelphrey?
He's always been a shitty fucker. That's why he was basically a grad assistant when hie antics got him run out of the NBA, which he only got because of his dad.
I hope he reads this next part:
Eric go fuck yourself. Or sign your damn contract and be lucky you have a job after that abortion you put us through and get your ass to work. And take your wife with you she's a big phony too. I read people for a living I can tell.
It must have been horrible for you when he was winning.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 22, 2024, 08:17 AMAll the oldest money will lose there minds if he goes because they will have SWC flashbacks and then there is the whole Arkansas obsession with all things Dallas.
Still, to go from 3 straight sweet 16s to a below 500 is a massive failure. There are better coaches out there.
I've said for a while that Muss's biggest incentive to leave is to reset his clock. He'll get 4-5 years at his next stop. Another year like this one at Arkansas and he won't have the option of sticking around.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 22, 2024, 08:45 AMI've said for a while that Muss's biggest incentive to leave is to reset his clock. He'll get 4-5 years at his next stop. Another year like this one at Arkansas and he won't have the option of sticking around.
I agree. This is the longest he has been one place, I think he is good for 3 years not long term. Nothing wrong with that either.
Dick Vitale just made a good point on X. Why open the transfer portal before the NCAA Tournament is over?
My point about Muss and SMU is they are not going to draw a fanatic crowd. Even with the talent in Dallas and moving to the ACC, he will still have a hard time recruiting to SMU. He's battling UT, aTm, Baylor, Houston plus the national programs for these kids. Outside of NIL, SMU has nothing else going for them. Those schools have NIL as well and a much better tradition of winning.
Some dumbass posted in the wrong thread. Never mind.
You guys talking about Andy Kennedy? His HC winning percentage is 64%, one percentage point better than Mike Anderson. I would hope we would sets our sights a little higher.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 22, 2024, 01:05 PMMy point about Muss and SMU is they are not going to draw a fanatic crowd. Even with the talent in Dallas and moving to the ACC, he will still have a hard time recruiting to SMU. He's battling UT, aTm, Baylor, Houston plus the national programs for these kids. Outside of NIL, SMU has nothing else going for them. Those schools have NIL as well and a much better tradition of winning.
Yeah, that's why I see it more as he/his agent is pushing for an extension/pay raise/higher buyout or something. His buyout is apparently less than a million now, or right around there. SMU is not a serious landing spot for Muss, and I think if Louisville really wanted him and if he was really putting out feelers all season, this would have already been done so he could start contacting transfers. There's no reason for them to wait if both want it both parties want it to happen. Other than Louisville , where is a better open spot? Michigan, maybe? If anything it's about equal.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Mar 22, 2024, 01:39 PMYou guys talking about Andy Kennedy? His HC winning percentage is 64%, one percentage point better than Mike Anderson. I would hope we would sets our sights a little higher.
I really doubt Muss leaves at this point, but Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska would seem like an intriguing option. Did well at Iowa state and has Nebraska in the dance, which might be the hardest job in the big 10. Makes 1.6 million, which I'm sure will go up.
SMU would be doing Arkansas a favor by hiring him. The SEC has his number.
Well, not only did Ferris pass out at 31 flavors last night but.......
https://x.com/digetydog/status/1771243262914793770?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Wouldn't he taking those calls on his personal phone so no one could see them?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 22, 2024, 03:31 PMWell, not only did Ferris pass out at 31 flavors last night but.......
https://x.com/digetydog/status/1771243262914793770?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
God our fan base is retarded
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 22, 2024, 04:03 PMWouldn't he taking those calls on his personal phone so no one could see them?
Can't imagine an Arkansas coach being that big of an idiot and doing stupid stuff on the university provided phone.
Shirley nobody could be that dumb.
Yeah unless he wanted everyone to know he's raising his skirt. Also calling people in Dallas isn't entirely out of the norm for a basketball coach tasked with recruiting young mens many of which probably come out of Texas. Also Part 2: I kinda doubt a HR guy is going to run his cum dumpster to a nephew to spill the beans on social media. Part 3: Where are the plane tracking nerds?
Personally I think there is a solid chance he's wanting money/security but don't know that I buy that he's really willing to leave right now.
I figure he gets a token extension and if we're back next season in the dancing competition he gets a better deal. It all needs to be taken care of soon so we can be focused on which ever locker room cancers we wish to bring into the program for next season.
Quote from: animal on Mar 22, 2024, 04:43 PMYeah unless he wanted everyone to know he's raising his skirt. Also calling people in Dallas isn't entirely out of the norm for a basketball coach tasked with recruiting young mens many of which probably come out of Texas. Also Part 2: I kinda doubt a HR guy is going to run his cum dumpster to a nephew to spill the beans on social media. Part 3: Where are the plane tracking nerds?
Personally I think there is a solid chance he's wanting money/security but don't know that I buy that he's really willing to leave right now.
I figure he gets a token extension and if we're back next season in the dancing competition he gets a better deal. It all needs to be taken care of soon so we can be focused on which ever locker room cancers we wish to bring into the program for next season.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 22, 2024, 04:10 PMGod our fan base is retarded
Brad Ford is HTL's best friend.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 22, 2024, 04:27 PMCan't imagine an Arkansas coach being that big of an idiot and doing stupid stuff on the university provided phone.
Shirley nobody could be that dumb.
Yeah. No way that could ever happen.
Right, Donna?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 22, 2024, 04:10 PMGod our fan base is retarded
We don't exactly deserve nice things, because of our retardedness.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Mar 22, 2024, 09:16 PMYeah. No way that could ever happen.
Right, Donna?
:rofl:
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 22, 2024, 09:17 PMWe don't exactly deserve nice things, because of our retardedness.
We really don't. I'm just enjoying every minute of Razorback baseball before DVH retires.
Any mention why Thompson was absent tonight?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 22, 2024, 10:38 PMAny mention why Thompson was absent tonight?
Was he? I figured he stayed in the dugout to coach the offense rather than handling third with Dave gone.
He very well may have been but don't recall seeing him.
Edit: I'll take credit for the senile post of the day.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Mar 22, 2024, 09:16 PMYeah. No way that could ever happen.
Right, Donna?
A coach would have to be nuts to do something like that.
I hate our fan base
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-eric-musselman-airbrush-damning-silence/
If we lose a basketball coach to SMU then we have major issues.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 23, 2024, 09:52 AMI hate our fan base
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-eric-musselman-airbrush-damning-silence/
Shitty sports reporters butt hurt because no one is talking to them, so they speculate worse case scenarios. Fan base isn't great but the AR sports media is pathetic.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 23, 2024, 09:55 AMIf we lose a basketball coach to SMU then we have major issues.
We got a football coach from them with major issues.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 23, 2024, 09:55 AMIf we lose a basketball coach to SMU then we have major issues.
They're talking about offering $6MM/year. I want Muss to stay, but not sure I'd match that offer for him.
What if we had made the NCAAT this year but lost in the first round?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 23, 2024, 10:50 AMThey're talking about offering $6MM/year. I want Muss to stay, but not sure I'd match that offer for him.
Maybe with stipulations....
Quote from: pigtacular on Mar 21, 2024, 02:03 PMBlocker portalling
Damn. Was probably my favorite on the team. Fuck you Muss.
https://twitter.com/theblakelovell/status/1771565769651830928?t=pgm8e9XFeIMVwSmh9OdByg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/theblakelovell/status/1771565769651830928?t=pgm8e9XFeIMVwSmh9OdByg&s=19)
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 23, 2024, 09:55 AMIf we lose a basketball coach to SMU then we have major issues.
Let him go!
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 23, 2024, 10:50 AMThey're talking about offering $6MM/year. I want Muss to stay, but not sure I'd match that offer for him.
Hell no. SMU is doing us a favor.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 23, 2024, 09:55 AMIf we lose a basketball coach to SMU then we have major issues.
Maybe the coach is the one with issues?
He has hit his ceiling here
I just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 23, 2024, 11:44 AMhttps://twitter.com/theblakelovell/status/1771565769651830928?t=pgm8e9XFeIMVwSmh9OdByg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/theblakelovell/status/1771565769651830928?t=pgm8e9XFeIMVwSmh9OdByg&s=19)
Are you insinuating that this feller is suggesting something about Muss because I read all the comments and can't read those tea leafs.
It was mainly a bunch of Bryce Drew fans trying to convince themselves he's a good coach.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Mar 23, 2024, 01:00 PMI just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
"Hey Eric, all those rumors about you going to SMU, what did you think about that?"
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Mar 23, 2024, 01:00 PMI just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
You'll get a little bit of that when it was clear to everyone he phoned it in about 10 games into the season plus lost control of the team plus let guy back on the team after quitting for the 2nd time. These narratives aren't pulled out of thin air...they happened. Sure give him a pass but that shit won't fly for long.
Also I think Muss fell into the trap that most all Razorback coaches fall into when they have success. They get to thinking they are bullet proof and let off the gas. His edge was using the portal before the portal really blew up. Once it did his value significantly fell. The greats evolve with the game. I'm not sure Muss is that guy though but yes I'm willing to give him that opportunity and I believe he's earned a season or two. I am deeply concerned how the season was handled when it was clear we weren't competitive.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Mar 23, 2024, 01:00 PMI just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
Are sweet 16's the pinnacle of Arkansas basketball moving forward?
If so, muss is your guy. Because that is his ceiling.
Just because we suffered 20 years of suck doesn't mean you stick with less than your potential because it isn't as bad as the worst you've ever been.
Back-to-back Elite 8 appearances.
Arkansas fanbase: "The Sweet 16 is acktually Muss's ceiling!"
Goddamn we're just a retarded fanbase that doesn't deserve nice things at all. bUt ThE mEdIa!! Yeah they have jobs because this dumbass state eats up every word they say or type.
Quote from: BASS on Mar 23, 2024, 01:35 PMAre sweet 16's the pinnacle of Arkansas basketball moving forward?
If so, muss is your guy. Because that is his ceiling.
Just because we suffered 20 years of suck doesn't mean you stick with less than your potential because it isn't as bad as the worst you've ever been.
In fairness I believe two of those seasons we faced the eventual natty winner. The question I would ask: Does UCONN, BAYLOR, DUKE, GONZAGA, ARIZONA, KANSAS, UNC...Those types of programs flip their entire rosters every season and often times going after different types of personnel?
So it's not like we're a bread and butter team that's always going to be big. One year we're big, the next we're small. This season we were Mike Anderson stupid only worse. This willy nilly recruiting is really weird even for the NIL/portal era. When I watch these other elite programs they tend to have hallmarks of what makes them really good. It's not an accident that they are where they are. It didn't take someone playing out of their minds over achieving. These programs don't tend to have "gelling problems" still yet mid-way thru the season. These teams don't have locker room drama spill out onto social media. These programs are mainly only concerned with pissing excellence.
Quote from: animal on Mar 23, 2024, 01:05 PMAre you insinuating that this feller is suggesting something about Muss because I read all the comments and can't read those tea leafs.
It was mainly a bunch of Bryce Drew fans trying to convince themselves he's a good coach.
Not specific to us but there are a lot of rumors around coaching shake up in the conference.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Mar 23, 2024, 01:00 PMI just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
I'm with ya.
I think the odds are good we've seen his ceiling as head coach, we'll be chasing dreams of Sweet 16s for probably the next 5 to 10 years.
Quote from: animal on Mar 23, 2024, 02:58 PMI think the odds are good we've seen his ceiling as head coach, we'll be chasing dreams of Sweet 16s for probably the next 5 to 10 years.
He might have caught a little bit of lightning in a bottle. I was hoping those were stepping stones to Final Fours, but the only way to know is keep going.
I am a little bit worried about this. His first 2 years, I was 100% bought in due to his approach in press conferences. He was extremely technical, which was such a relief after Mike Anderson's "we gotta play harder."
The last 2 years, it's much more clear that his coaching is not at the highest technical level. I keep watching for plays on offense to attack the zones or other defenses that teams throw at us, and we don't do it. We don't really have plays. As some player recently said about us, "it's just iso ball." And we very rarely play zone defense, even when it's called for.
Ideally a coach who could throw different offenses at different defenses would walk through that door.
Whatever happens needs to happen and keep all the drama out next year. We have 2 great in-state talents in Burgess and Sealy that would be lovely to have, and then in the 2026 class we have 3 in-state players that are top 75 nationally.
The only trade up I see would be Beard. While he may be slimy enough to break his word, I doubt it. We're better off with Musselman until I see him flop more than once.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 23, 2024, 09:28 PMThe only trade up I see would be Beard. While he may be slimy enough to break his word, I doubt it. We're better off with Musselman until I see him flop more than once.
I'm choked up reading this post. 😙
Quote from: BASS on Mar 23, 2024, 01:35 PMAre sweet 16's the pinnacle of Arkansas basketball moving forward?
If so, muss is your guy. Because that is his ceiling.
Just because we suffered 20 years of suck doesn't mean you stick with less than your potential because it isn't as bad as the worst you've ever been.
This post isn't getting enough credit for how fucking stupid it is.
The last 2 seasons we have 31 losses.
That's a lot. I know we lucked into Devo having the greatest game of his life to beat Kansas and prop up a really shitty season with a lot of wasted talent last year. That was lucky for Musselman. And it was literally Devo heroics because we were a bubble team all year.
He hasn't had real success since the 2 years back to back with the Elite 8.
I'll scrub the covid year, he had 2 good years and last year was mixed and this year was horrible.
You are retarded if you don't think we are trending down big at this point. We have no foundation built we are back to replacing pretty much the entire team. Not good.
I don't necessarily care if dude stays or goes. Partly because he's done well in the past and it's not right to fire him yet.
But if anyone on this board really thinks he's going to pull this out of the gutter you're lying.
I don't even think Musselman thinks he can which is why he hasn't signed his extension and is lifting his skirt to shit teams to get out.
We are a program in the bottom 3rd of the SEC and the SEC sucks. Outside of Devo saving his ass 3 years in a row he'd already be fired.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 23, 2024, 03:13 PMHe might have caught a little bit of lightning in a bottle. I was hoping those were stepping stones to Final Fours, but the only way to know is keep going.
I am a little bit worried about this. His first 2 years, I was 100% bought in due to his approach in press conferences. He was extremely technical, which was such a relief after Mike Anderson's "we gotta play harder."
The last 2 years, it's much more clear that his coaching is not at the highest technical level. I keep watching for plays on offense to attack the zones or other defenses that teams throw at us, and we don't do it. We don't really have plays. As some player recently said about us, "it's just iso ball." And we very rarely play zone defense, even when it's called for.
Ideally a coach who could throw different offenses at different defenses would walk through that door.
I have kinda been saying this about the offense for a couple of years, at least. Offense is generally just to pass it around till someone thinks they have a one on one advantage. We do run a set play, maybe a half dozen times a day. It is a pro offense, and he wants it that way. He thinks it helps his recruiting (and maybe it does).
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 23, 2024, 10:06 PMThis post isn't getting enough credit for how fucking stupid it is.
I saw it immediately too.
Btw I like the 4 numbers in your username.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 23, 2024, 10:15 PMI have kinda been saying this about the offense for a couple of years, at least. Offense is generally just to pass it around till someone thinks they have a one on one advantage. We do run a set play, maybe a half dozen times a day. It is a pro offense, and he wants it that way. He thinks it helps his recruiting (and maybe it does).
Spent too much of the year setting Mahki up high between the free throw line and the 3 pt line trying to run the offense through him. Definitely trying to run "pro"...but we aren't Denver and our #15 ain't their #15 (Jokic).
He seems to have a different "idea" every year w/ recruiting, portal...then gameplan. There's no consistency.
Does Muss have a good relationship with instate high school coaches?
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Mar 23, 2024, 01:00 PMI just don't get it. Our best 3 year run in 20+ years and everyone is burning the guy in effigy over one dismal season and rumors/speculation from a craptastic media.
Damn it's crazy!
I will say, in my real life most people aren't ready to be rid of him as it appears folks are on this board but I'm sure that is because we aren't savvy enough to freak out over a bad season
According to reports (https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/umass-transfer-josh-cohen-to-visit-notre-dame-arkansas-penn-state/) we are recruiting the UMASS big man that is graded like a 96 in the portal rankings. Adam Ford approved.
He is a confirmed visit to Ark, Notre Dame, and Xavier with an unofficial to Penn State. This doesn't really mean much in terms of Muss bouncing or not but does I reckon suggest that our staff is still recruiting to Arkansas (for now)
Quote from: animal on Mar 24, 2024, 08:11 AMAccording to reports (https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/umass-transfer-josh-cohen-to-visit-notre-dame-arkansas-penn-state/) we are recruiting the UMASS big man that is graded like a 96 in the portal rankings. Adam Ford approved.
He is a confirmed visit to Ark, Notre Dame, and Xavier with an unofficial to Penn State. This doesn't really mean much in terms of Muss bouncing or not but does I reckon suggest that our staff is still recruiting to Arkansas (for now)
I hope the staff is smart enough to sell our beautiful fall foliage with a lot less freezing your ass off when it goes away.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1772606330756333798?s=20
Damn Muss is stuck here haha.
Nobody wants our coach.
Better sign that contract on your desk nobody's falling for it.
Quote from: red death on Mar 26, 2024, 06:00 PMDamn Muss is stuck here haha.
Nobody wants our coach.
Better sign that contract on your desk nobody's falling for it.
Enfield to SMU opens the door for Muss going to USC where he'll enjoy a tranquil lifestyle while sifting through the homeless people and poop.
Kentucky clearly CAN'T get rid of Cal and he CAN'T leave.
Vandy hired the James Madison coach
Louisville is aiming a lot lower down the list it seems...the South Florida coach is being kicked around.
There was talk that Rick Barnes could be looking to retire after the season. I assume they are still playing.
Quote from: animal on Mar 26, 2024, 06:02 PMEnfield to SMU opens the door for Muss going to USC
That's exactly what I was thinking. His daughter can go to Crenshaw, his wife can smoke and bang w/ Snoop, and he can surf and focus on basketball.
Quote from: red death on Mar 26, 2024, 06:00 PMDamn Muss is stuck here haha.
Nobody wants our coach.
Better sign that contract on your desk nobody's falling for it.
HY ought to pull that offer and negotiate a new one more favorable to the university.
Boy how the mighty mouse has fallen.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 26, 2024, 06:13 PMHis daughter can go to Crenshaw,
She better BRING IT.
I don't get the hate. Bad year and for sure a repeat would earn a huge "WTF dude", but I'm willing to give him a pass this year.
SoCal may be home, but no way he's as big a fish there as here. There's also the cost of living comps between the two.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 26, 2024, 06:54 PMI don't get the hate. Bad year and for sure a repeat would earn a huge "WTF dude", but I'm willing to give him a pass this year.
SoCal may be home, but no way he's as big a fish there as here. There's also the cost of living comps between the two.
You don't get the hate?
We're all miserable assholes and you've been here about as long as me. I started in 2002.
Sir if my mother coached the Hogs and went 16-17 I'd kick the very ass I came out of out of here without remorse.
This is woopig. :this_is_woopig:
Quote from: animal on Mar 26, 2024, 06:42 PMShe better BRING IT.
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Man, I miss the good old days.
Quote from: red death on Mar 26, 2024, 06:57 PMYou don't get the hate?
We're all miserable assholes and you've been here about as long as me. I started in 2002.
Sir if my mother coached the Hogs and went 16-17 I'd kick the very ass I came out of out of here without remorse.
This is woopig. :this_is_woopig:
😀
Quote from: red death on Mar 26, 2024, 06:57 PMYou don't get the hate?
We're all miserable assholes and you've been here about as long as me. I started in 2002.
Sir if my mother coached the Hogs and went 16-17 I'd kick the very ass I came out of out of here without remorse.
This is woopig. Just processing the fact you were born an ass baby.
Quote from: red death on Mar 26, 2024, 06:57 PMYou don't get the hate?
We're all miserable assholes and you've been here about as long as me. I started in 2002.
Sir if my mother coached the Hogs and went 16-17 I'd kick the very ass I came out of out of here without remorse.
This is woopig. :this_is_woopig:
Just processing the fact you were born an ass baby.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 26, 2024, 06:54 PMSoCal may be home, but no way he's as big a fish there as here. There's also the cost of living comps between the two.
Not to mention all the air travel for that Big10 basketball schedule.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 26, 2024, 06:13 PMThat's exactly what I was thinking. His daughter can go to Crenshaw, his wife can smoke and bang w/ Snoop, and he can surf and focus on basketball.
Woopig keeping it classy. At least the racists make it where you don't have to guess.
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/oral-roberts-guard-issac-mcbride-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Isn't this a Ark kid that Muss didn't recruit?
Quote from: animal on Mar 27, 2024, 08:09 AMhttps://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/oral-roberts-guard-issac-mcbride-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Isn't this a Ark kid that Muss didn't recruit?
I thought he was the kid who Mike allegedly kept calling Isaiah or something. Either way, we could use a 19 point per game scorer.
Quote from: animal on Mar 27, 2024, 08:09 AMhttps://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/oral-roberts-guard-issac-mcbride-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Isn't this a Ark kid that Mike A. didn't recruit?
Corrected, and the answer is yes.
He's got to be 30 by now.
Wasn't it one of Mike's assistant who couldn't get the guy's name right? I don't blame him for not coming here, but he's gotta be on year 6 by now.
He's been around...I'm thinking Kansas, Vandy, ORU and now whatever. He's a great kid though, he went to Baptist Prep with my oldest son. He was teammates with Vanover.
Quote from: animal on Mar 27, 2024, 08:09 AMhttps://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/oral-roberts-guard-issac-mcbride-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Isn't this a Ark kid that Muss didn't recruit?
I saw him play in HS. One of the best performances I've ever seen live. We could definitely use him.
I'm too old and my heart's too weak to be too jaded anymore.
Before Muss we were a pretender clinging to 30 year old memories. Since Muss arrived, three straight Sweet 16 appearances, and two Elite 8s. Before Muss no one feared us. Since Muss, we've been a team you didn't want to play (unless it was early January).
This year sucked.
Everybody gets one.
Quote from: bigpig on Mar 27, 2024, 11:27 AMI'm too old and my heart's too weak to be too jaded anymore.
Before Muss we were a pretender clinging to 30 year old memories. Since Muss arrived, three straight Sweet 16 appearances, and two Elite 8s. Before Muss no one feared us. Since Muss, we've been a team you didn't want to play (unless it was early January).
This year sucked.
Everybody gets one.
I think everybody just needs to take a deep breath with Muss. We're not the last team that will be bitten squarely in the ass by the portal situation.
And, I didn't forget what it was like before he got here...
https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1773038649384300895
It's looking like Muss isn't going anywhere anyway.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 27, 2024, 12:53 PMhttps://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1773038649384300895
It's looking like Muss isn't going anywhere anyway.
Still depends on Enfield to SMU or not.
I'm not sure USC offers Muss if Enfield leaves. He picked the wrong year to try to leave.
Serious question, did I miss the article/news where he was raising his skirt at every job? I just can't see him wanting to leave and unless y'all can point me to it, I'm going to assume this is all bullshit.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 27, 2024, 03:18 PMSerious question, did I miss the article/news where he was raising his skirt at every job? I just can't see him wanting to leave and unless y'all can point me to it, I'm going to assume this is all bullshit.
Some fat guy, probably incel on twitter said it's so. That's good enough for me.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 27, 2024, 03:18 PMSerious question, did I miss the article/news where he was raising his skirt at every job? I just can't see him wanting to leave and unless y'all can point me to it, I'm going to assume this is all bullshit.
Gary Parrish of CBS has said multiple times that he wants the Louisville job. Then there was the article last Friday that listed him as as a candidate at SMU but that may have just been clickbait.
Here's a clip from Parrish's podcast from 2 weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1LZIaeq-I
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 27, 2024, 04:19 PMGary Parrish of CBS has said multiple times that he wants the Louisville job. Then there was the article last Friday that listed him as as a candidate at SMU but that may have just been clickbait.
Here's a clip from Parrish's podcast from 2 weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1LZIaeq-I
Thanks. He quotes "reports". He didn't hear it himself.
Since they are hiring Kelsey, I doubt it further simply because Muss would be a way better choice.
Gary Parrish hasn't been right about anything in years. He's the HTL of coaching scoops. One thing is fairly clear to me though...nobody wants the UL gig. Could be it's a shit show for NIL which may that way in a lot of situations. Not really seeing schools really dropping their panties on basketball hires right now...maybe it opens up after the tournament.
Quote from: animal on Mar 27, 2024, 05:06 PMGary Parrish hasn't been right about anything in years. He's the HTL of coaching scoops. One thing is fairly clear to me though...nobody wants the UL gig. Could be it's a shit show for NIL which may that way in a lot of situations. Not really seeing schools really dropping their panties on basketball hires right now...maybe it opens up after the tournament.
Gary is my neighbor and I consider him a friend.
With that said, this is the correct assessment. :)
Quote from: animal on Mar 27, 2024, 05:06 PMGary Parrish hasn't been right about anything in years. He's the HTL of coaching scoops. One thing is fairly clear to me though...nobody wants the UL gig. Could be it's a shit show for NIL which may that way in a lot of situations. Not really seeing schools really dropping their panties on basketball hires right now...maybe it opens up after the tournament.
Fair enough. I'm glad he's wrong. I've just come to learn that the "national" writers seem to have more info than our local Bob Holts. Sort of like Joe Schad of all fucking people breaking the Bielema hire.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Mar 27, 2024, 05:48 PMGary is my neighbor and I consider him a friend.
With that said, this is the correct assessment. :)
I "met" him at one of my son's baseball tourneys down in Oxford. He has a son that played for the other team. I watch the Chris Vernon Show religiously and recognized him and introduced myself. Seemed like a good dude (not vouching for his correctness on things).
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Mar 27, 2024, 05:48 PMGary is my neighbor and I consider him a friend.
With that said, this is the correct assessment. :)
:maundoed:
Get ready for a lot of noise, we'll see.... But the timing is not great.
https://x.com/cbbcontent/status/1773149525907034363?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: PorkyPig on Mar 27, 2024, 09:13 AMHe's been around...I'm thinking Kansas, Vandy, ORU and now whatever. He's a great kid though, he went to Baptist Prep with my oldest son. He was teammates with Vanover.
i missed on that one. i thought he would be a four year starter at a mid major for sure
https://x.com/NWAHutch/status/1773376429163413747?
Muss isn't going anywhere.
They need to remember that funny internet clips work a lot better when you're winning.
They should have shown clips of Muss in his office studying up on how to run an offense in the college setting and working the phones.
I thought the video was pretty genius.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 28, 2024, 10:50 AMhttps://x.com/NWAHutch/status/1773376429163413747?
Muss isn't going anywhere.
Should have had Muss hitting the reset button on an Nintendo constantly, since that is what we seem to be doing every year. I guess we won't know what kind of team we will have until Marxh 25.
I think it's great. Trying to rebuild a team with the portal around a bunch of queers is going to backfire at some point. I imagine he is going to have a renewed focus and will work hard.
Quote from: jdcatty on Mar 28, 2024, 10:50 AMhttps://x.com/NWAHutch/status/1773376429163413747?
Muss isn't going anywhere.
Well that's pretty funny and directly addresses issues.
Good. I love Muss and want him to bring us to the mountaintop.
A bunch of folks wanted to run off Nolan and his "streetball" Hell, somebody shot his horse.
Hog fan needs to just chill.
Muss earned some chill over this year from the previous 3.
Pressure is ON now though.
2 years is a trend.
After watching the 30 year special last night...I'd take some street ball if it included 40 mins of Hell.
We need a Corliss and Scotty.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 28, 2024, 11:19 AMI thought the video was pretty genius.
Concur. Glad to see it.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Mar 28, 2024, 02:04 PMAfter watching the 30 year special last night...I'd take some street ball if it included 40 mins of Hell.
We need a Corliss and Scotty.
Watched that too. How incredible it was to have dudes that could shoot and play defense. Has Muss had any pure shooters who were money like Scotty or Al Dillard since he's been here? Even the elite 8 teams were streaky and nobody was really a certified bucket. That 94 team was a steam roller.
Quote from: PHARMHOG on Mar 28, 2024, 02:04 PMAfter watching the 30 year special last night...I'd take some street ball if it included 40 mins of Hell.
We need a Corliss and Scotty.
Mens
It's amazing how quick contracts get signed when all the other offers dry up.
I guess I'm just an asshole but I don't feel like slapping asses and giving high fives because Muss is staying on the bus. Honeymoon is over and my fucks to give are running low.
Quote from: animal on Mar 28, 2024, 05:53 PMI guess I'm just an asshole but I don't feel like slapping asses and giving high fives because Muss is staying on the bus. Honeymoon is over and my fucks to give are running low.
We know.
I just remember Pelphrey...
Quote from: Zoso on Mar 28, 2024, 09:17 PMI just remember Pelphrey...
Heath, Hayseed, and "Hustle" Mike Anderson. A terrible run of coaches post-Nolan.
why is that tweet coming from Hunter and not Muss?
I hope he stays but...until USC makes a hire i'm not buying a vague video as proof of anything.
Hell, i'm not sure the Muss part wasn't from the first video.
Also, very odd line for Hunter - which I am told has more truth than anyone would admit.
shocked their wasn't an Arkansas Edge pitch at the end either. .....
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 28, 2024, 10:59 PMwhy is that tweet coming from Hunter and not Muss?
I hope he stays but...until USC makes a hire i'm not buying a vague video as proof of anything.
Hell, i'm not sure the Muss part wasn't from the first video.
Also, very odd line for Hunter - which I am told has more truth than anyone would admit.
shocked their wasn't an Arkansas Edge pitch at the end either. .....
I'm not reading too much into it. I think they were announcing he's staying and having some fun with it. I thought it was funny.
Cold ass white boy alert
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1773812296176783394?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Muss also shared it on his Instagram, for anyone who followed the lone account on Twitter claiming Muss had zero knowledge of Yurachek's tweet yesterday.
We got a big white hope
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 29, 2024, 03:48 PMCold ass white boy alert
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1773812296176783394?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Cool. Maybe this is a change in team makeup going forward. He's a traditional sized power forward that can shoot from deep. You can't win consistently playing small ball.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 29, 2024, 04:39 PMCool. Maybe this is a change in team makeup going forward.
I thought we were done with that with the players leaving.
It'll take a huge 4th quarter but Indiana is trying to shake up the women's tournament
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 29, 2024, 04:56 PMI thought we were done with that with the players leaving.
I thought our problem was more fingernail color.
That big is highly rated for a portal player. It would be neat if our offense featured big guys though or anyone else for that matter.
Quote from: animal on Mar 29, 2024, 07:27 PMThat big is highly rated for a portal player. It would be neat if our offense featured big guys though or anyone else for that matter.
Exactly. I don't understand why a big man would come here, unless we shot our entire NIL wad on him.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 29, 2024, 04:36 PMWe got a big white hope
Joe kleine is the only one of those to work out for us.
Hopefully this guy will be the second.
Quote from: BASS on Mar 29, 2024, 08:36 PMJoe kleine is the only one of those to work out for us.
Hopefully this guy will be the second.
How easily they forget Scott Hastings.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 29, 2024, 09:03 PMHow easily they forget Scott Hastings.
Yes and the uber talented Eric Poerschke
He's no Michael Sanchez O0
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 29, 2024, 09:03 PMHow easily they forget Scott Hastings.
And Steve Schall.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 29, 2024, 10:31 PMHe's no Michael Sanchez O0
Steven Hill has entered the chat.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 29, 2024, 03:48 PMCold ass white boy alert
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1773812296176783394?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
How are his UPS truck driving skills?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 29, 2024, 04:36 PMWe got a big white hope
Is the Tribe back on board with being on the white team? It is hard to keep up.
This feels like Jason Jennings all over again.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 30, 2024, 07:51 AMThis feels like Jason Jennings all over again.
Jennings was a much different player. This guy is a fairly polished stretch 4 that will probably hang out behind the 3 line in our system setting zero screens.
Quote from: animal on Mar 30, 2024, 07:55 AMJennings was a much different player. This guy is a fairly polished stretch 4 that will probably hang out behind the 3 line in our system setting zero screens.
He was only 11-32 from three last season. I think he primarily plays inside.
actually after watching about 15 minutes of highlights, the guy lives in the lane. like a three every once in a while but he gets his points in the paint.
funny i didn't see one dunk. looks to have the vertical of the average woopiga.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Mar 30, 2024, 08:26 AMHe was only 11-32 from three last season. I think he primarily plays inside.
Oh good.
I was reading the clickbait headline from a few weeks ago that made him sound like Dirk's son.
This thread is lingering like the social diseases some of our frolickers probably caught this past season.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 30, 2024, 07:51 AMThis feels like Jason Jennings all over again.
He was first team all conference this year. I think he'll be a little better than Jennings.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 30, 2024, 08:29 AMactually after watching about 15 minutes of highlights, the guy lives in the lane. like a three every once in a while but he gets his points in the paint.
funny i didn't see one dunk. looks to have the vertical of the average woopiga.
I'm looking forward to a guy like that. How many tall white kids from Ole Miss or LSU have had career days against us in the last few years?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 30, 2024, 11:06 AMI'm looking forward to a guy like that. How many tall white kids from Ole Miss or LSU have had career days against us in the last few years?
Agree. Doesn't he have something like 1600 career points? Even at a lower level that's impressive.
His highlights make him look like a homeless man's McHale...which is awesome.
Believe I saw where he put up 40 twice this year.
Quote from: animal on Mar 30, 2024, 07:55 AMJennings was a much different player. This guy is a fairly polished stretch 4 that will probably hang out behind the 3 line in our system setting zero screens.
great. Another Vanover. I have the exciteds.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 30, 2024, 02:06 PMgreat. Another Vanover. I have the exciteds.
Are you just skipping the posts that proves he's nothing like any of the great white hopes we've had?
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 30, 2024, 02:56 PMAre you just skipping the posts that proves he's nothing like any of the great white hopes we've had?
I am.
Over the last 30 years all of our big whites have sucked. He may not be specifically comparable to any of them but I bet he isn't going to be very good.
Don't hit me with those negative waves.
AJ Storr entered the portal played for Wisconsin most recently, this would be his 7th college team is what the article I read said. Looks like Kansas and Ole Miss are bidding for his services but also he's entered into the NBA draft process. Sweet. I liked his game though.
I thought Storr was a freshman
Pinion to Arkansas State. Per a Facebook Easter message.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 31, 2024, 01:59 PMPinion to Arkansas State. Per a Facebook Easter message.
I hope he does good wherever he goes.
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 31, 2024, 02:03 PMI hope he does good wherever he goes.
I think if he had
ever hit his first shot of the game, he might have been in the rotation. He just never could.
Cal pushes his dog around in a stroller. Not very manly. :chad
https://twitter.com/HowardWKYT/status/1777410483009520046
Quote from: HogglyWoggly on Apr 08, 2024, 04:19 PMCal pushes his dog around in a stroller. Not very manly. :chad
https://twitter.com/HowardWKYT/status/1777410483009520046
If the dog is walking, which I was glad to see, who or what is in the stroller? If it's a 2nd dog, he'd better have a broken leg or something.
Needs to get rid of that blue shit he's wearing.
That's a stroller full of money.
Quote from: HogglyWoggly on Apr 08, 2024, 04:19 PMCal pushes his dog around in a stroller. Not very manly. :chad
https://twitter.com/HowardWKYT/status/1777410483009520046
technically the dog isn't walking he's pushing it in a stroller and what good is it to push a dog in a stroller instead of a walk or can the dog no longer walk?
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 04:45 PMtechnically the dog isn't walking he's pushing it in a stroller and what good is it to push a dog in a stroller instead of a walk or can the dog no longer walk?
In the video the dog, a little white dog breed unknown, is walking alongside on the sidewalk.
The stroller is for the high traffic areas probably. He puts the thing in the basket or it gets the hose again
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 04:33 PMNeeds to get rid of that blue shit he's wearing.
I don't blame him for not breaking out the red before he moves out of Lexington.
What Nolan says.
Former Arkansas basketball coach Nolan Richardson passed along some advice to John Calipari, who just signed a deal to become the team's new head coach. The former Kentucky leader is set to take on a new challenge in 2024-25. Richardson is the lone man to lead Arkansas to a national title win, back in 1994.
The Razorbacks fully expect Calipari is the guy to get it done in the present. But Richardson gave him some words of wisdom.
"You got to stay ahead of the posse now," Richardson said, via USA Today. "Cause if you're not saying ahead of the posse, they're going to get you."
Kentucky is a basketball blue blood, but now that Arkansas has Calipari on the sidelines, fans know a championship could be within reach.
"Now Kentucky has tremendous expectations," Richardson said. "But little do they know that Arkansas does, too."
Calipari won a title in his lifetime, but it's been awhile since he made a deep run. A chance of scenery can certainly help.
"Absolutely,'' Richardson said if a new school can rejuvenate Calipari. "He doesn't have that huge monkey on his back.''
Quote from: HogglyWoggly on Apr 08, 2024, 04:19 PMCal pushes his dog around in a stroller. Not very manly. :chad
https://twitter.com/HowardWKYT/status/1777410483009520046
That's ok. At least it's a dog. The Musselmans probably have cats.
I'm gonna assume Cal is looking at better options, and I'm not sure I'd want the baggage that comes with it, but if Cal got Bronny James to come to Arkansas that would be hilarious.
bronny james is going to take his 4.8 pts a game to the nba.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 05:26 PMbronny james is going to take his 4.8 pts a game to the nba.
Don't forget the heart condition that may or may not been from the experimental vaccine.
Lmfao
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Quote from: HogglyWoggly on Apr 08, 2024, 04:19 PMCal pushes his dog around in a stroller. Not very manly. :chad
https://twitter.com/HowardWKYT/status/1777410483009520046
(https://media.tenor.com/OnLcojdUOv0AAAAM/terrell-owens.gif)
Never underestimate our ability to piss our pants and embarrass ourselves
Jesus fucking christ. How in the fuck do you try to stay at Kentucky after flirting with Arkansas?
https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1777472397496533000?s=46&t=4udxXFAgq5pQvGP7jbfo5w
Well, good news is the "internet" is batting 0.000 this offseason so...
Quote from: aaron on Apr 08, 2024, 05:16 PMThat's ok. At least it's a dog. The Musselmans probably have cats.
Not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 08, 2024, 08:00 PMNot touching that with a ten foot pole.
Quote from: aaron on Apr 08, 2024, 05:16 PMThat's ok. At least it's a dog. The Musselmans probably have cats.
I figured they had talking parrots. "Meh buttsecks. Meh buttsecks, Meh".
Apparently there were a few things going on with Musselman's departure that I haven't heard before. For one thing, he went home to Southern California over Christmas for a day and saw his mother. She's apparently not in the greatest of shape, and he started to feel a little guilty he wasn't closer.
Also, Danyelle apparently wants to go back to work in the media business where she worked before they came to Arkansas. Something in the tv business. She may have something lined up out there already.
Muss had been putting feelers out since before the season started. Tried to leave every season after year two and finally got someone to take the bait.
Hopefully Danyelle has improved since her two hysterical gaffes on air prior.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 04:49 PMHe puts the thing in the basket or it gets the hose again
Not unappreciated.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 09, 2024, 12:41 PMHopefully Danyelle has improved since her two hysterical gaffes on air prior.
I had to google this, and that is funny as hell.
Down the rabbit hole I went! This is worthwhile if you need a chuckle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW4ox87SKnI
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 09, 2024, 01:21 PMI had to google this, and that is funny as hell.
Down the rabbit hole I went! This is worthwhile if you need a chuckle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW4ox87SKnI
The Mike singletary interview?
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 09, 2024, 04:10 PMThe WTF hot mike.
You gotta look up the mike singletary interview. It's even better.
About time to start the 24-25 thread. Props to Lawson Blake. Already preseason top 20.
https://x.com/coachtwelch11/status/1777541761805570214?s=46
https://x.com/hunteryurachek/status/1778056635421733106?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Terrible blow Jeremiah Davenport declares for the NBA draft.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 09, 2024, 04:22 PMYou gotta look up the mike singletary interview. It's even better.
I couldn't find it anywhere.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 11, 2024, 01:00 PMTerrible blow Jeremiah Davenport declares for the NBA draft.
Thought he was out of eligibility either way?
He was out of eligibility. I thought the kid played hard was one of the few that acted like they cared. He deserved better.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 11, 2024, 01:04 PMI couldn't find it anywhere.
Damnit it's been scrubbed from the internet for copyright lol.
You can read about the gaffe online. The look on his face in the video was classic.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 11, 2024, 01:10 PMHe was out of eligibility. I thought the kid played hard was one of the few that acted like they cared. He deserved better.
Yeah I liked him. Don't see him getting drafted but think he could have been a solid piece to have left behind.
So, anyone think Cal gets a commitment before the day is over?
We got some action....
https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1778506690981171219?t=bGGZxKz5_Imo_bOj39abww&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1778506690981171219?t=bGGZxKz5_Imo_bOj39abww&s=19)
We're going to have the most loaded team in Arkansas history next season.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 11, 2024, 01:13 PMDamnit it's been scrubbed from the internet for copyright lol.
You can read about the gaffe online. The look on his face in the video was classic.
Did she ask him about someone not knowing the person was already dead? Or did I just completely pull that out of my drunken ass?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 11, 2024, 03:44 PMDid she ask him about someone not knowing the person was already dead? Or did I just completely pull that out of my drunken ass?
She asked Mike Singletary about what Bill Walsh said to him when he got the 49ers job. He had been dead a year lol.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 11, 2024, 04:05 PMShe asked Mike Singletary about what Bill Walsh said to him when he got the 49ers job. He had been dead a year lol.
That's it :maundoed: I knew I had seen it at some point. Wow.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 11, 2024, 03:11 PMWe're going to have the most loaded team in Arkansas history next season.
I hope you are correct
I think it's time for the 2024-25 thread.
Way too much optimism on The Woopigs these days. It is making me nervous.
:maundoed:
https://twitter.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1778525856132169752?t=l8bgWi-tdnUnX5oiagp25g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1778525856132169752?t=l8bgWi-tdnUnX5oiagp25g&s=19)
#2 guy in their class - huge
Take your time finding a coach, UK
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 11, 2024, 04:17 PMWay too much optimism on The Woopigs these days. It is making me nervous.
I'll keep the balance.
I think cal is a great hire and better than musselman, but I'm also remembering where cal and his 5* loaded Kentucky teams were all three years when muss' teams were dancing in the sweet sixteen.
Do not interpret that as I'm cal darksider number one.
Just cautiously optimistic.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 11, 2024, 05:15 PMI'll keep the balance.
I think cal is a great hire and better than musselman, but I'm also remembering where cal and his 5* loaded Kentucky teams were all three years when muss' teams were dancing in the sweet sixteen.
Do not interpret that as I'm cal darksider number one.
Just cautiously optimistic.
I agree, there is definitely need for some caution. I am hoping, however, that Cal will come out swinging and feel a real need to establish himself here with a good few years.
:popcorn:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778562208860868999?t=jnhOtdXUmfqmk5RzOHaBSg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778562208860868999?t=jnhOtdXUmfqmk5RzOHaBSg&s=19)