I am a pussified child of the New South. Old enough to remember houses, cars, and schools without AC. My mother was picking cotton gin east Texas heat at 5 years old. My old man was sleeping in a west Texas ditch working in the oil fields. I am wilting if it goes over 90. I really liked the Denver high desert.
This summer sucks so far. Fucking 105 today. Tuesday will be 109. I just pray for the integrity of the Texas power grid.
It's hot. Boo hoo.
You are old like me.
This ain't shit.
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This seems like the perfect place for my complaint.
I hate the fucking heat index, and wish weather dorks would kill it off.
Every time it gets a little bit warm outside someone says "it's 110 degrees today! OMG! Hottest day EVAR!"
No you stupid asshole, it's 92, otherwise known as a normal July day in the south for the last 250 years or so.
The issue is that idiots like the weather potato conflate HI with actual temp when comparing to previous years. We don't know what the heat index was on 7/15/1948, so compare what we could measure - the actual Fahrenheit temp - rather than mixing variables.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jul 15, 2023, 09:10 AMThis seems like the perfect place for my complaint.
I hate the fucking heat index, and wish weather dorks would kill it off.
Every time it gets a little bit warm outside someone says "it's 110 degrees today! OMG! Hottest day EVAR!"
No you stupid asshole, it's 92, otherwise known as a normal July day in the south for the last 250 years or so.
The issue is that idiots like the weather potato conflate HI with actual temp when comparing to previous years. We don't know what the heat index was on 7/15/1948, so compare what we could measure - the actual Fahrenheit temp - rather than mixing variables.
Thank you for typing what I would. It's fucking July people. And guess what, August is next so suck it up buttercup. It's gonna be hot.
I do feel for the guys/gals working out in it. But it will be hot
Quote from: Hognrock on Jul 15, 2023, 09:17 AMThank you for typing what I would. It's fucking July people. And guess what, August is next so suck it up buttercup. It's gonna be hot.
I do feel for the guys/gals working out in it. But it will be hot
I'm trying to keep this apolitical since we aren't on that board, but I'll add that many of the same people who scream "WE TOLD YOU SO!!!! CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!" on a 102 degree day in August are the same ones that will say "WEATHER ISN'T CLIMATE!" when we get a record snowfall in February.
Just imagine, farmers didn't always have closed-cab tractors with air conditioning.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 15, 2023, 09:38 AMJust imagine, farmers didn't always have closed-cab tractors with air conditioning.
gonna be awhile before someone markets an eV tractor that can do what it needs to do and provide AC
and man lower Alabama gets sticky
I have never flown back and forth to Dallas in summer midday to see which is worse, close to side-by-side - 15 more degrees vs less humidity
I don't think either is as bad as worst Memphis and environs.
My Dad spent time on the business end of a manual post hole digger for APL* when I was a toddler - I am soft and I do not care.
*in Phillips County
Quote from: egregious on Jul 15, 2023, 10:05 AMgonna be awhile before someone markets an eV tractor that can do what it needs to do and provide AC
and man lower Alabama gets sticky
I have never flown back and forth to Dallas in summer midday to see which is worse, close to side-by-side - 15 more degrees vs less humidity
I don't think either is as bad as worst Memphis and environs.
My Dad spent time on the business end of a manual post hole digger for APL* when I was a toddler - I am soft and I do not care.
*in Phillips County
Wouldn't the "business end" of a post hole digger be the part that goes in the ground? So you're basically saying dad made money getting post holed? Need a woopig judgement on that one, but sounds like a rough life indeed.
If you didn't grow up without air conditioning, and only had a box fan pulling air through your room and maybe a large ceiling fan pulling air through the house, you won't be able to handle these temps. If you did, like me, this is nothing.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jul 15, 2023, 02:54 PMIf you didn't grow up without air conditioning, and only had a box fan pulling air through your room and maybe a large ceiling fan pulling air through the house, you won't be able to handle these temps. If you did, like me, this is nothing.
Nothing beats a true attic fan. I'm from the Hope area originally and neither sets of grand parents had AC or heat. One had an attic fan that would damn near freeze you out on a hot July night. I don't know the physics behind it but that is the truth.
I have two of these in the garage and I'm thinking about installing one up in the attic. 5 HP shouldn't implode the roof.
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I'm down in Austin this week and have been walking around the pond at work during lunch and I can objectively tell it is hot I guess, but I'm not sweating or really feeling uncomfortable at all.
Either I have become immune to the weather or I'm having a stroke. Save me SS, save me.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 15, 2023, 03:59 PMI'm down in Austin this week and have been walking around the pond at work during lunch and I can objectively tell it is hot I guess, but I'm not sweating or really feeling uncomfortable at all.
Either I have become immune to the weather or I'm having a stroke. Save me SS, save me.
Pretty sure she's the one that gives strokes. I mean she killed a guy on the old Woopig.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 14, 2023, 09:44 PMYou are old like me.
This ain't shit.
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I remember that summer all too well.
Little Rock set a record of 15 consecutive days in July 1980 > 100 degrees (5 of which were 105 degrees or hotter) and a total of 42 days above 100 that summer. Total rainfall was about a half inch.
I spent six weeks that July and August doing an Internal Medicine rotation at the old VA Hospital on East Roosevelt. With the exception of a few Administration offices with window units, the building was not air conditioned. The combination of several hundred chain-smoking vets, the intoxicating miasma of urine, feces and death and the ambient room temps in the 90's made it a special place to work.
Quote from: Hognrock on Jul 15, 2023, 05:23 PMPretty sure she's the one that gives strokes. I mean she killed a guy on the old Woopig.
But if I'm already having one, maybe a double stroke will save me?
It was humid as hell in Atlanta last week but we were on grass fields at least.
Turf fields this time of year are just brutal, I get it with rain and what not, but damn it is is so much hotter on the artificial grass.
If you hydrate ahead of time it is doable, but you have to do it 2-3 days ahead. Trying to catch up on hydration is not gonna work or happen and a losing proposition. Liquid IV has sugar free now, I picked up some liquid Labs hydration packets (to mix in bottles of water) at Walmart last week - worked great in Atlanta.
The mission cooling neck gaiter does work. It won't keep you ice cool but it does help though it will dry out in 20 minutes in big heat. I sweat like a Stuck pig and this reduced the sweat for me. Looks odd but effective, find the, at Walmart in then on tv section.
Still, I would rather be hot than cold,
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jul 15, 2023, 10:25 AMWouldn't the "business end" of a post hole digger be the part that goes in the ground? So you're basically saying dad made money getting post holed? Need a woopig judgement on that one, but sounds like a rough life indeed.
touche
I meant the driving end.
You don't want any part of it. I wouldn't want to carry it from the truck to the guy.
My old grandpa died a few years ago at 92. Worked outside every day of his life and would sit on the front porch swing in 100° weather with overalls and long sleeve shirt and say "it's just right." Didn't use AC in his house - just an attic fan.
Said as a kid they would pull the sheets off the bed, get them wet and make a pallet on the front porch to sleep on during summer. Get up at daylight and hang them up on the line.
Those old timers, man.
We had bad summers in 2011 and 2012, but since then it's been very mild. Looks like we'll hover around 90 through the end of July outside of a few days this week. Can't beat that.
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Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 14, 2023, 09:44 PMYou are old like me.
This ain't shit.
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I spent that summer working in a wallpaper warehouse in Memphis. The upper racks were in the 135 -140 range, so they started having us work 3am to noon. But it would cool off at night.
What I remember most about that summer was George Jones was no showing big shows but sleeping in his Lincoln in the parking lot of the Wagon wheel honky tonk on Lamar, playing for tips. No one knew it except the regulars, which I found out about from a coworker. Went and saw him play, bought him a couple of whiskeys and put two bucks in his tip jar.
When it's in the 98 range at 4am it's fucking hot.
Being older the heat is definitely harder on me than I ever remember in my youth.
A couple weeks ago in Florida they were having record highs in the mid and upper 90's, which wouldn't have been so bad but with Central Florida humidity it was hot. 65% humidity when it's 96 degrees and walking around theme parks in the sun took its toll on me. Couldn't stay hydrated enough, took days to recover.
In Jr high and high school I would do 5-6 mile ribs in the summer when it was mid-90s and get up and do it again the next day.
Try being the 1B coach in the middle of July on a turf field. One of the parents had a thermometer and it read 128. Pigeon Forge last year during July. Hydration is key, and not being old
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Yesterday We were at San Luis Pass between Galveston and Freeport. Not quite as far as Corpus.
But, it was 95 and felt like 95. Felt like any other hot July summer day as the beach.
Not sure how 93 can feel like 125. I guess if you were trapped in a car.
Also, Texas beaches suck ass.
While we're on the subject of "we were tougher when we were younger", when and why did Americans become so fat?
I attended grades 1-12 from 1961-1973 in Arkansas and it seems like everyone I went to school with was skinny. Every photo I have from back then showed lean men, women and children. Even the kids we called "chubs" or "fatso" back then would be looked at as slightly overweight today.
I completed an Ob/Gyn residency in 1985 that served mostly low-income inner city patients. A 200 lb pregnant woman back then was considered shockingly obese. I returned to that same residency to teach from 2009-2022 and the typical obstetric patient weighed 230-240 lbs with 350 lbs not being at all uncommon.
Unhealthy fast food being available 24/7 on every corner in every town doesn't help but that can't be the only reason.
We're also just lazy as shit and always looking for the easy way to solve problems.
Had a guy come into a gym I was training in one time looking for some self-defense tips, I guess because he was scared of his apartment's parking lot. Instructor said "Grab some gloves and we'll start teaching you how to fight. We're here three nights per week."
No joke the guy said he just wanted a few techniques he could practice in front of the mirror and that he'd go find them elsewhere. I think I told him to just write out his will.
Especially for men everything about society tells us to be gentle, clean, domesticated, kind, soft-spoken.... To just be a really nice guy. Well this is what you get. Most men are weak and overweight or are testosterone-free vegans with boyfriends.
Quote from: FNG on Jul 16, 2023, 09:07 PMWhile we're on the subject of "we were tougher when we were younger", when and why did Americans become so fat?
I attended grades 1-12 from 1961-1973 in Arkansas and it seems like everyone I went to school with was skinny. Every photo I have from back then showed lean men, women and children. Even the kids we called "chubs" or "fatso" back then would be looked at as slightly overweight today.
I completed an Ob/Gyn residency in 1985 that served mostly low-income inner city patients. A 200 lb pregnant woman back then was considered shockingly obese. I returned to that same residency to teach from 2009-2022 and the typical obstetric patient weighed 230-240 lbs with 350 lbs not being at all uncommon.
Unhealthy fast food being available 24/7 on every corner in every town doesn't help but that can't be the only reason.
Sugary drinks, lots of grain carbs and starchy foods. If you follow the food pyramid, you're guaranteed to get fat.
Go to the grocery store and you will see why. When I've dieted and added lots of veggies to my plate, the grocery bill has gone up 3x as high.
Same for fast food. The healthier options are the highest priced.
Quote from: Lurk on Jul 16, 2023, 09:47 PMSugary drinks, lots of grain carbs and starchy foods. If you follow the food pyramid, you're guaranteed to get fat.
This is it. The low fat movement saw and increase of sugar in all foods. Low fat on the box, sure, but there's 30 grams of sugar per serving.
The food industry has also encouraged snacking. When FNG was a kid, I'm guessing he had breakfast before school, lunch at school, and dinner at home. Now kids have granola bars (full of sugar and refined grains) in their backpacks for mid morning snacks and peanut butter crackers for mid afternoon snacks. Probably something else when they get home from school. Dinner at 6:00 and something again before bedtime.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Jul 16, 2023, 11:08 PMGo to the grocery store and you will see why. When I've dieted and added lots of veggies to my plate, the grocery bill has gone up 3x as high.
Same for fast food. The healthier options are the highest priced.
Boxed goods and all the unhealthy crap has seen the most inflation. That sugary cereal you fat bodies eat is $7 now.
I think another big difference between "back then" and now is activity. As Buff pointed out, we've become lazy. Being inside has now become more entertaining with video games, social media and streaming services and a whole lot more comfortable than being outside due to interior climate control.
As a kid during summer breaks, all my friends and I were literally up and outside with the sun and--except for being dragged back in for meals--we didn't come back inside until long after dark. We played ball, wrestled, rode bikes, had dirt clod wars or played kick-the-can all day long.
Of course, our houses were not air-conditioned and were miserably hot, video games and digital media didn't exist and the one or two TV stations unfuzzy enough to actually watch were filled with boring game shows and soap operas.
Quote from: Lurk on Jul 16, 2023, 09:47 PMSugary drinks, lots of grain carbs and starchy foods. If you follow the food pyramid, you're guaranteed to get fat.
The problem with the food pyramid was that it didn't separate whole grains from refined, and as a result we have been consuming way too many processed carbs that break down into sugar. Focus on whole grains and you don't have a terrible model. The new MyPlate is still a lot better.
How corrupt is the food industry? McDonald's was able to get some of their products endorsed by the Heart Foundation for a measly $300,000 annual donation.
Quote from: FNG on Jul 16, 2023, 09:07 PMWhile we're on the subject of "we were tougher when we were younger", when and why did Americans become so fat?
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Not sure which Walmarks you go to but he would be lucky to crack the top 10 on Sunday morning at 7am at mine. 😂
Since we veered into fatness, if you ever want to lose a lot of weight fast get your doc to prescribe Ozempic.
It absolutely killed my appetite. I am on it for diabetes but it is getting prescribed for weight loss for some people.
It seems sketchy and I don't think I would recommend it but you will cut some weight if it doesn't kill you. I hope I get some of my appetite back some day.
I've been trying to lose a little weight this year. I'm down about 15 pounds since February just trying to eat less... I was bad about overeating.
Now I can't eat as much as I could before in one sitting, like half, and a lot of times I have very little appetite.
I need to lose about another 15 pounds to get where I want to be.
AOD 9604 Peptide. Vintage Muscle has a topical spray but it also includes epiandro and will mess with your body's hormone levels if you don't cycle it. I think they have a pure AOD 9604 spray coming out in a few weeks that you can take as long as you need it.
Quote from: egregious on Jul 17, 2023, 12:30 PMSince we veered into fatness, if you ever want to lose a lot of weight fast get your doc to prescribe Ozempic.
It absolutely killed my appetite. I am on it for diabetes but it is getting prescribed for weight loss for some people.
It seems sketchy and I don't think I would recommend it but you will cut some weight if it doesn't kill you. I hope I get some of my appetite back some day.
Pretty sure if you are prescribed Ozempic for weight loss and not diabetes your insurance won't cover it and it's pretty expensive. There is a risk of pancreatitis as well. I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on it though.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jul 17, 2023, 02:32 PMPretty sure if you are prescribed Ozempic for weight loss and not diabetes your insurance won't cover it and it's pretty expensive. There is a risk of pancreatitis as well. I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on it though.
Celebs are taking it like crazy. Not sure I'd risk it.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jul 17, 2023, 02:32 PMPretty sure if you are prescribed Ozempic for weight loss and not diabetes your insurance won't cover it and it's pretty expensive. There is a risk of pancreatitis as well. I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on it though.
Don't know how true it is but I read where one of the dangers is that it cuts lean mass instead of fat by a disproportionate amount. Typically 75% of weight lost should be fat, with the other somewhere around 20-25% being lean mass.
With Ozempic people are losing a larger percentage of lean mass than fat. Still losing weight, but the "wrong" type of weight. Again, not sure if that's true or not.
I'm on my second Dr. Pepper today. This authentic blend of 23 flavors is wonderful. I feel bad for all that you folks are missing by trying to avoid death by a year or two.
Quote from: TC on Jul 17, 2023, 03:03 PMDon't know how true it is but I read where one of the dangers is that it cuts lean mass instead of fat by a disproportionate amount. Typically 75% of weight lost should be fat, with the other somewhere around 20-25% being lean mass.
With Ozempic people are losing a larger percentage of lean mass than fat. Still losing weight, but the "wrong" type of weight. Again, not sure if that's true or not.
I saw that as well, but wondered if you could combat that by eating a shitload of protein and working out.
We have a couple of friends (women) who used it with great success. Don't think I want to risk it to lose maybe ten pounds of remaining fat.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jul 17, 2023, 03:24 PMI'm on my second Dr. Pepper today. This authentic blend of 23 flavors is wonderful. I feel bad for all that you folks are missing by trying to avoid death by a year or two.
I just want to look good naked
Quote from: BASS on Jul 17, 2023, 03:28 PMI just want to look good naked
As long as I can still get myself off then I look good enough
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 17, 2023, 03:46 PMAs long as I can still get myself off then I look good enough
This is the right answer.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jul 17, 2023, 02:32 PMPretty sure if you are prescribed Ozempic for weight loss and not diabetes your insurance won't cover it and it's pretty expensive. There is a risk of pancreatitis as well. I know a few people who have lost a lot of weight on it though.
the side effects don't seem worth the risk but it appears every housewife is abusing it. Supposedly your face ages faster when using and you shit a lot and vomit. Also they don't even know the long term effects so no thanks. If you're too lazy to actually do the work and lose weight the healthy way then you'll just gain the weight back once off. Probably causes cancer eventually
Quote from: BASS on Jul 17, 2023, 03:28 PMI just want to look good naked
It is overrated
The lights are off
Or she closes her eyes
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jul 17, 2023, 08:11 PMProbably causes cancer eventually
And Parkinheimer's
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jul 17, 2023, 10:19 PMIt is overrated
The lights are off
Or she closes her eyes
Rosy don't care.
Thanks for the Ozempic thoughts everyone.
I was put on Vyctoza for diabetes a couple years ago and it helped my A1C but my kidney numbers sucked. I was them switched to Trulicity and it would rally reduced my appetite and I started losing weight. I was then moved to Mounjaro which really kickstarted weight loss. So far I'm down around 70 pounds.
Ozempic and Mounjaro are super weight loss drugs and are not covered for that and aren't covered by my BCBS for diabetes.
So it could run you $800-1200 a month if you can't get a coupon.
Mounjaro nearly killed me. When my endo moved me up to 10mg it hit me like a ton of bricks. Pancreatitis, pancreatitis king and shitting and cramping for two weeks. We shed I was dead. Endo said she'd never heard of that. I said wach the fucking commercial; it's 2/3 disclaimer for pancreatitis or murdering you. Fired her ass.
New endo said some diabetics have low bowel motility and these drugs cause low motility so my system crashed. tried a lower dose of Mounjaro and it didn't work either so back to Trulicity. The weight loss is slower but more fat. Mounjaro and Ozempic eat muscle mass big time hence the term Ozempicbutt.
Quote from: Texzilla on Jul 18, 2023, 09:26 AMI was put on Vyctoza for diabetes a couple years ago and it helped my A1C but my kidney numbers sucked. I was them switched to Trulicity and it would rally reduced my appetite and I started losing weight. I was then moved to Mounjaro which really kickstarted weight loss. So far I'm down around 70 pounds.
Ozempic and Mounjaro are super weight loss drugs and are not covered for that and aren't covered by my BCBS for diabetes.
So it could run you $800-1200 a month if you can't get a coupon.
Mounjaro nearly killed me. When my endo moved me up to 10mg it hit me like a ton of bricks. Pancreatitis, pancreatitis king and shitting and cramping for two weeks. We shed I was dead. Endo said she'd never heard of that. I said wach the fucking commercial; it's 2/3 disclaimer for pancreatitis or murdering you. Fired her ass.
New endo said some diabetics have low bowel motility and these drugs cause low motility so my system crashed. tried a lower dose of Mounjaro and it didn't work either so back to Trulicity. The weight loss is slower but more fat. Mounjaro and Ozempic eat muscle mass big time hence the term Ozempicbutt.
So you had pancreatitis they attributed to Mounjaro and your new doc put you back on it but at a lower dose??? That seems a bit aggressive/crazy.
For the "It barely gets to 70 degrees crowd"....JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 17, 2023, 01:45 PMAOD 9604 Peptide. Vintage Muscle has a topical spray but it also includes epiandro and will mess with your body's hormone levels if you don't cycle it. I think they have a pure AOD 9604 spray coming out in a few weeks that you can take as long as you need it.
Do you have experience with this?
Quote from: pigtacular on Jul 18, 2023, 02:46 PMDo you have experience with this?
I've used their current spray-on and I've used nasal sprays of AOD. I'll do extra cardio before I inject myself with anything. When I go from a bulking cycle back onto trying to lean out I've had good experience with AOD 9604. Especially the nasal spray but it felt like snorting jet fuel.
Quote from: animal on Jul 18, 2023, 11:53 AMFor the "It barely gets to 70 degrees crowd"....JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP.
So I shouldn't mention that here in NE Wisconsin it's been in the mid 50's in the mornings, 70's during the day and I can't remember when I've had the a/c on? But we have had bad air quality from the Canadian wildfires, sky is real hazy.
I love all the talking heads saying the upper Midwest is going to be a vast migratory destination for people from the sunbelt. Women ugly as sin and snow on the ground 9 months of the year. Hard pass.
Even on the hottest day the south is the more superiors place to be. The people alone are enough to stay down here. And that accounts for places like Memphis and Jackson MS.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Jul 19, 2023, 07:47 AMSo I shouldn't mention that here in NE Wisconsin it's been in the mid 50's in the mornings, 70's during the day and I can't remember when I've had the a/c on? But we have had bad air quality from the Canadian wildfires, sky is real hazy.
Get back to us in mid-January. ;D
Quote from: FNG on Jul 19, 2023, 08:13 PMGet back to us in mid-January. ;D
I'll be back in DFW in mid-Oct. I'm looking forward to the late Jan/early Feb DFW ice storm where we lose power for 24-48 hrs.
Several years ago I had a next-door neighbor in NWA who took a new job in Appleton, WI. They moved in midsummer and he would phone and rave weekly about how wonderful the weather was and how magnificent the autumn colors were.
Then winter came and the glowing reports began to dwindle. His last call from Wisconsin came in January when he said he had climbed in his car that morning and his steering wheel had snapped in half when he tried to turn the wheels.
They moved back to NWA that February.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jul 19, 2023, 11:38 AMEven on the hottest day the south is the more superiors place to be. The people alone are enough to stay down here. And that accounts for places like Memphis and Jackson MS.
I'd rather be in Colorado than jackson MS in the middle of the summer.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Jul 20, 2023, 08:26 AMI'll be back in DFW in mid-Oct. I'm looking forward to the late Jan/early Feb DFW ice storm where we lose power for 24-48 hrs.
I'm going to have a generator by this winter! Anyone know a good generator company in the DFW area? Want a NG one.
88 and sunny on Saturday. The south is unbearable!
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 20, 2023, 10:07 AMI'm going to have a generator by this winter! Anyone know a good generator company in the DFW area? Want a NG one.
We have some old Jenbacher 320's on our yard in Garland. We have them listed at $200k but I could probably get you few dollars off.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Jul 20, 2023, 10:19 AMWe have some old Jenbacher 320's on our yard in Garland. We have them listed at $200k but I could probably get you few dollars off.
Might be a bit of overkill. Looking at just something to power the house at least during the winter and run at least some of the AC units in the summer, not the whole neighborhood.
I COULD wire it up myself, but would rather have someone do a pad, park the generator with a housing and hook up all the NG fittings and wire it up as well.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 20, 2023, 10:43 AMMight be a bit of overkill. Looking at just something to power the house at least during the winter and run at least some of the AC units in the summer, not the whole neighborhood.
I COULD wire it up myself, but would rather have someone do a pad, park the generator with a housing and hook up all the NG fittings and wire it up as well.
Pretty soon the democrats will ban those too. You want a generator? It's going to be powered by electricity!
Or something, idk. They're fuckwits.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 20, 2023, 10:07 AMI'm going to have a generator by this winter! Anyone know a good generator company in the DFW area? Want a NG one.
https://generatorsupercenteroffortworth.com/
I've always wanted one here in Corpus Christi due to hurricanes, but have never pulled the plug.
Got a quote for one last year, ~$17K, turn key installation for a 22kW.
Quote from: cchog on Jul 20, 2023, 02:30 PMhttps://generatorsupercenteroffortworth.com/
I've always wanted one here in Corpus Christi due to hurricanes, but have never pulled the plug.
Got a quote for one last year, ~$17K, turn key installation for a 22kW.
This seems like a good deal
https://www.northerntool.com/products/generac-guardian-series-home-standby-generator-24kw-lp-21kw-ng-200-amp-transfer-switch-aluminum-enclosure-model-7210-102681
Just need a place to put it and someone to hook it up.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Jul 20, 2023, 02:40 PMThis seems like a good deal
https://www.northerntool.com/products/generac-guardian-series-home-standby-generator-24kw-lp-21kw-ng-200-amp-transfer-switch-aluminum-enclosure-model-7210-102681
Just need a place to put it and someone to hook it up.
Unfortunately, the generator is the cheapest part of the initial cost.
I'll see if I can find my quote and list it here.
Transfer switch in the electrical panel.
Wiring from panel to the generator.
Gas line from the easement to the generator.
Pad for the generator.
Permits, etc.
Quote from: cchog on Jul 20, 2023, 02:30 PMhttps://generatorsupercenteroffortworth.com/
I've always wanted one here in Corpus Christi due to hurricanes, but have never pulled the plug.
Got a quote for one last year, ~$17K, turn key installation for a 22kW.
I used a local company in NWA after getting a quote from generatorsuperstore and saved a few thousand dollars. Same installation and same generator. It kicked on one time this Spring during a thunderstorm and everything operated as it should. It also kicks on once a week for maintenance.
Quote from: cchog on Jul 20, 2023, 02:51 PMUnfortunately, the generator is the cheapest part of the initial cost.
I'll see if I can find my quote and list it here.
Transfer switch in the electrical panel.
Wiring from panel to the generator.
Gas line from the easement to the generator.
Pad for the generator.
Permits, etc.
I'm hoping mine is cheap:
Generator location to the main panel is about 10 feet, through one outside wall.
There is a pretty major gas line for the pool heater about 6 feet from where I want to put the generator
Will need a pad
Will see about permits
Need to see how big I need/want. I probably don't need to run all 3 AC units in 100 deg+ heat, as I can just run one and stay in that part of the house if needed. The main thing is to run the Trane unit which is mostly just a big ass fan in the winter and I guess keep the pool equipment going if there is a power outage to keep that shit from freezing, but have heat trace on all the above ground lines now, just needs electricity.
Sometimes at travel soccer tournaments, I'll hear trashy parents make the tired old joke "well, at least we don't have to go back and live in Arkansas". I don't engage, but my thought is always the same: do they think we hate where we live, and aspire to live in [Oklahoma / Texas / Louisiana / Tennessee]? Of course they don't think that deep down; they're defaulting to this overused sleight because they're getting their asses beat and lashing out.
I feel the same about the "I don't even use my AC" crowd. Yes, I'm aware that higher latitudes have lower temperatures, and I deliberately live in Fayetteville anyway.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 20, 2023, 05:37 PMI'm hoping mine is cheap:
Generator location to the main panel is about 10 feet, through one outside wall.
There is a pretty major gas line for the pool heater about 6 feet from where I want to put the generator
Will need a pad
Will see about permits
Need to see how big I need/want. I probably don't need to run all 3 AC units in 100 deg+ heat, as I can just run one and stay in that part of the house if needed. The main thing is to run the Trane unit which is mostly just a big ass fan in the winter and I guess keep the pool equipment going if there is a power outage to keep that shit from freezing, but have heat trace on all the above ground lines now, just needs electricity.
You may be able to connect 2, maybe all 3 of your AC units. The guy explained to me that it's the heating unit that will max out the capacity of the generator than ac will.
From what I understand, the 24kW Generac is the largest air-cooled unit. Anything past that, is going to be oil-cooled.
Your locations, from main panel and gas line, are ideal, as they quoted me $18/ft after the base 20 ft for the electrical.
I looked into it several years ago and I can't remember what the KW was but at one point the price increase significantly over a certain KW. May have been 24.
https://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/guardian-series/24kw-7210-with-200amp-ser-transfer-switch
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https://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/protector-series/22kw-rg022-qs
Not sure why that one is so fucking expensive?
I mean, 24kw is still probably overkill since unless my math is completely wrong, that is like 200A and my house doesn't pull 200A even when full load. Could probably
Did their calculator and the 18kw one came out as more than plenty, but would probably go a little over, especially if I wanted to be nice and help power some shit for my neighbors with extension cords if needed.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 21, 2023, 09:27 AMhttps://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/guardian-series/24kw-7210-with-200amp-ser-transfer-switch
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https://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/protector-series/22kw-rg022-qs
Not sure why that one is so fucking expensive?
I mean, 24kw is still probably overkill since unless my math is completely wrong, that is like 200A and my house doesn't pull 200A even when full load. Could probably
Did their calculator and the 18kw one came out as more than plenty, but would probably go a little over, especially if I wanted to be nice and help power some shit for my neighbors with extension cords if needed.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 21, 2023, 09:27 AMhttps://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/guardian-series/24kw-7210-with-200amp-ser-transfer-switch
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https://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/home-backup-generators/protector-series/22kw-rg022-qs
Not sure why that one is so fucking expensive?
I mean, 24kw is still probably overkill since unless my math is completely wrong, that is like 200A and my house doesn't pull 200A even when full load. Could probably
Did their calculator and the 18kw one came out as more than plenty, but would probably go a little over, especially if I wanted to be nice and help power some shit for my neighbors with extension cords if needed.
Based on what I paid that's a great price on the Guardian unit. That's the same size and model that we have and we have a 200A panel in our house. I will tell you that we have two heat pumps for heat and we do not want them to come on at the same time, which could be a concern if we're not home when an outage occurs in cold weather. If you have gas heat then the Guardian will be a great unit for a 200A panel.
GeneratorSuperstore tried to sell us switches for each breaker. Said it was necessary to regulate the power. But I had Kimbel Services do the work and the tech said they were not necessary and that was what you panel is for. They added another panel next to our existing meter for the controls and the hook up was simple. Since I live in the country I had to add a propane unit to run the generator which upped my costs.
Quote from: dhog on Jul 21, 2023, 09:56 AMBased on what I paid that's a great price on the Guardian unit. That's the same size and model that we have and we have a 200A panel in our house. I will tell you that we have two heat pumps for heat and we do not want them to come on at the same time, which could be a concern if we're not home when an outage occurs in cold weather. If you have gas heat then the Guardian will be a great unit for a 200A panel.
GeneratorSuperstore tried to sell us switches for each breaker. Said it was necessary to regulate the power. But I had Kimbel Services do the work and the tech said they were not necessary and that was what you panel is for. They added another panel next to our existing meter for the controls and the hook up was simple. Since I live in the country I had to add a propane unit to run the generator which upped my costs.
Thanks, I'll start calling people and see how much the install and such will be. I'll probably have the pool guy take the heater out since it is super old and I'm afraid of it catching on fire and use that gas line with a T and a cap to run the generator which I intend to put about 5 feet away. Can always get a new pool heater since the new ones are smaller and likely better than my 20-30 year old unit. The pool guy was surprised it actually worked. My goal is to keep it under or around 10k. I think that is a good investment for the peace of mind of having heat/cooling and emergency power for foodstores. Now to get a freezer and a bunch of meat. Wife wants a freeze dryer for christmas/anniversary so that should also help with emergency food planning. Just need an in-ground bunker now. I SOOOO want to burry a small shipping container and have an underground passage to it as a shelter but there just isn't a good place anywhere to do it. Next house...next house.
Why stop with a 20 footer when a 40 ft high boy only cost a little more. Connect a 20ft to be your command post/mancave. You might be down there a few years.
Quote from: Texzilla on Jul 21, 2023, 11:20 AMWhy stop with a 20 footer when a 40 ft high boy only cost a little more. Connect a 20ft to be your command post/mancave. You might be down there a few years.
Yard space mostly...We have lots of trees and there just isn't a good place to bury one other than the greenbelt and the HOA might object to that.
Well played, weatherman. Well played.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1682491038433177600?t=mthBM5zpr3f-U3hBDU2f7g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1682491038433177600?t=mthBM5zpr3f-U3hBDU2f7g&s=19)
Holy fuck I laughed at that hard.
In my defense I've had a tiny bit to drink.
It was cooler than last year's tournament but it can get damn humid in Kansas City. Tuesday and Wednesday I think were worse humidity wise than Atlanta was last week.
I don't know how folks did it before wicking fabrics much less umps in coats and ball players in wool uniforms.
That was a smooth delivery. Kind of like Oklahoma's David Payne and "Got o your safe space... Jesus would have been in there 10 minutes ago."
Also the global warming in Jonesboro was terrible yesterday. 75 degrees, but we all know global warming is responsible for cooler temperatures.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 22, 2023, 07:16 AMThat was a smooth delivery. Kind of like Oklahoma's David Payne and "Got o your safe space... Jesus would have been in there 10 minutes ago."
Also the global warming in Jonesboro was terrible yesterday. 75 degrees, but we all know global warming is responsible for cooler temperatures.
Climate change, man. It covers hot/cold/dry/wet/windy/foggy even smoky. You gotta keep up with the lingo.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jul 22, 2023, 01:05 PMClimate change, man. It covers hot/cold/dry/wet/windy/foggy even smoky. You gotta keep up with the lingo.
You gotta admit the racket is strong.
Heat, cold, and switching between them (variability) all explained by greenhouse gases emitted by man. It's a miracle, I tell ya!
The sun baking in the middle of summer? Climate change!
Storm comes by to cool it down? Storms are caused by climate change!
Freezing in the winter? Tough winter caused by climate change!
It's positively astounding to watch people think this is "science."
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jul 22, 2023, 01:11 PMYou gotta admit the racket is strong.
Heat, cold, and switching between them (variability) all explained by greenhouse gases emitted by man. It's a miracle, I tell ya!
The sun baking in the middle of summer? Climate change!
Storm comes by to cool it down? Storms are caused by climate change!
Freezing in the winter? Tough winter caused by climate change!
It's positively astounding to watch people think this is "science."
I would like their science to detail the swings in weather, hot, cold, rain, drought, hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods for the different regions of the united states for the last million years.
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Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 20, 2023, 05:37 PMI'm hoping mine is cheap:
Generator location to the main panel is about 10 feet, through one outside wall.
There is a pretty major gas line for the pool heater about 6 feet from where I want to put the generator
Will need a pad
Will see about permits
Need to see how big I need/want. I probably don't need to run all 3 AC units in 100 deg+ heat, as I can just run one and stay in that part of the house if needed. The main thing is to run the Trane unit which is mostly just a big ass fan in the winter and I guess keep the pool equipment going if there is a power outage to keep that shit from freezing, but have heat trace on all the above ground lines now, just needs electricity.
They are very common down here due to hurricanes. Consider getting soft start kits installed on your AC compressors, if you do a 24KW genset should be able to power 2 residential AC units easily, and 3 as long as you pay attention to demand.
If you want something that can power your house for an extended outage, pay the premium for a water cooled unit. Heat kills these things. The upkeep on a water cooled is more involved, but they are much more reliable. If you do go with an air cooled unit, learn the basic maintenance requirements. Shut it down for a period of time daily, and I'd change the oil every day. Consider removing the cover as well, it will be louder, but it will help it run cooler.
I don't know if it can still be done, but after Hurricane Rita, a colleague contacted one of the manufacturers directly. They would sell and deliver him a unit at wholesale, it was a substantial savings at the time, but he had to buy 10 units. Apparently that's how many fit on a truck. He just had to find an installer. I passed, I don't remember if he found 9 other interested homeowners or not.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 21, 2023, 11:46 AMYard space mostly...We have lots of trees and there just isn't a good place to bury one other than the greenbelt and the HOA might object to that.
Why does the JoA Ben need to know. Figure out a way to bury it sideways into the green space under the ground or under a neighbors house. They won't know what they can't see. Tell the neighbors about the ficking fracking. Most folks believe anything if you either blame fracking or Trump or illegals.
I would if I could for sure. 100% guaranteed, if I ever build a house, it will have a basement/bunker with at least part of it hidden and accessible from a secret location. Gonna fortify that shit. Just not many options with our current house.
It does have two secret rooms that are more like closets, but quite well hidden and secured by magnetic locks with battery backups and internal locking mechanism. They aren't very big and one is already pretty much filled with 'stuff' that I might not want anyone to find, especially the ATF>
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Jul 24, 2023, 07:55 PMI would if I could for sure. 100% guaranteed, if I ever build a house, it will have a basement/bunker with at least part of it hidden and accessible from a secret location. Gonna fortify that shit. Just not many options with our current house.
It does have two secret rooms that are more like closets, but quite well hidden and secured by magnetic locks with battery backups and internal locking mechanism. They aren't very big and one is already pretty much filled with 'stuff' that I might not want anyone to find, especially the ATF>
I keep having this periodic dream that I built a house with a hidden basement that contains a bar and half basketball court.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jul 24, 2023, 08:00 PMI keep having this periodic dream that I built a house with a hidden basement that contains a bar and half basketball court.
I'll contribute a batting cage with pitching machine that accommodated baseball AND fast pitch and slow pitch softball.
I'll also keep us stocked in Stadium Style Nachos with high quality pickled jalapeños. And pretzels.
You know the only way to keep the secret is to murder the contractors that built that giant hidden basement.
Well, if you ever kill that Contractor bitch, I'll show you where the ocean is
So I see folks posting on boards..."thermostat at 80. Doing my share!" Well good for you. That means more grid for me. I've lived when AC was a treat.
Mine is set at 70. I don't apologize.
While you are all stocking up on guns and ammo (as am I, maybe) I am also stocking up on antibiotics and such shit. Don't want a splinter killing me or my family. So, if you invite me to one of your bunkers, I will have the shit that will save you from any infections.
*Wrong thread...
Quote from: Texzilla on Jul 25, 2023, 08:50 AMSo I see folks posting on boards..."thermostat at 80. Doing my share!" Well good for you. That means more grid for me. I've lived when AC was a treat.
Mine is set at 70. I don't apologize.
Yeah. 80?? Uh no. I work to pay bills and be comfortable. I dont have a large house, so I'll continue with my +/-$70ish electric bill and keep mine on 70.
You can fix a lot of shit with Wonder Dust and Ivermectin.
Quote from: Guardrail on Jul 25, 2023, 09:31 AMYeah. 80?? Uh no. I work to pay bills and be comfortable. I dont have a large house, so I'll continue with my +/-$70ish electric bill and keep mine on 70.
I don't understand the rationale because if you're turning the ac off when you leave the house or up to 80 when you come home it's gonna have to work that much harder to cool down
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jul 25, 2023, 08:58 AMWhile you are all stocking up on guns and ammo (as am I, maybe) I am also stocking up on antibiotics and such shit. Don't want a splinter killing me or my family. So, if you invite me to one of your bunkers, I will have the shit that will save you from any infections.
*Wrong thread...
A word of caution: expired antibiotics lose potency over time and can increase bacteria resistance if used against an infection. Liquid antibiotics can become contaminated with bacteria as they age.
DO NOT KEEP TETRACYCLINE PAST THE EXPIRATION DATE; expired tetracycline has been linked to Fanconi syndrome (kidney damage).
Quote from: FNG on Jul 25, 2023, 10:45 AMA word of caution: expired antibiotics lose potency over time and can increase bacteria resistance if used against an infection. Liquid antibiotics can become contaminated with bacteria as they age.
DO NOT KEEP TETRACYCLINE PAST THE EXPIRATION DATE; expired tetracycline has been linked to Fanconi syndrome (kidney damage).
All fresh.
Quote from: FNG on Jul 25, 2023, 10:45 AMA word of caution: expired antibiotics lose potency over time and can increase bacteria resistance if used against an infection. Liquid antibiotics can become contaminated with bacteria as they age.
DO NOT KEEP TETRACYCLINE PAST THE EXPIRATION DATE; expired tetracycline has been linked to Fanconi syndrome (kidney damage).
who on this board is needing to take tetracycline anyways
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jul 25, 2023, 11:55 AMwho on this board is needing to take tetracycline anyways
It's a great broad spectrum antibiotic. You've probably taken it for the clap and didn't realize it.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Jul 25, 2023, 12:16 PMIt's a great broad spectrum antibiotic. You've probably taken it for the clap and didn't realize it.
I took it as a kid for acne. I figured that's what most people took it for
I reluctantly sold a old man a new AC system because he's getting $600 light bills all the sudden, he runs two systems with the 3rd one in a shop that rarely gets run. Anyway since Entergy put in a new meter his bill allegedly went from $150 per month to now it's $600. I've heard this story many times before and it's Entergy fucking people. I advised him that Entergy is probably billing two-months at a time.
I said the new unit won't amazingly make your bill go down....advised him he needs to address his duct work under his house because it's cold/wet under his house = leaky ducts. The duct work is easily 40 years old if not older. Anyway we install the new unit next week w/o new duct...it won't do any different than the last one and I point blank told the guy that. The current unit is from 2014 so it's not terribly old. It came down to if I didn't sell the unit he was going to buy from somebody. There comes a point where I can only do so much without having the home owner address other issues that could help such as solar, insulation, moving to a smaller house...
We bought a house in 05 that the owner had the easy to see ductwork wrapped to show like new. The lazy ads inspector didn't see that the ductwork was basically shredded. My first electric bill was over $1000. Had to replace all the ductwork, double insulate the attic and garage, radiant barrier, big turbine vents on the roof, insulate the garage door, etc. got it down to $200.
Just push mowed my lawn...hadn't really gave the push mower much run this summer so I figured why not the hottest fuckin day in the history of the earth. Well not really. But I did mow with my gasoline powered self-propelled follow behind Honda mower. I feel dirty but it's not from climate change.
I think now with the grace of god I'll be tucked into my easy chair and watch shitty woke shit on Netflix the rest of the afternoon.
I washed three cars today. I used Honda powered washer. Shirley those are next on the outlaw list. It is warm out today.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Jul 30, 2023, 01:41 PMI washed three cars today. I used Honda powered washer. Shirley those are next on the outlaw list. It is warm out today.
Obv Honda is a better brand but we bought one of those SunJoe pressure washers. Only thing that sucks is dragging the cord around. Otherwise very good for light use.