https://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876
Awwwwwww hell yeah!! That might do it if true.
I call bullshit
Beat me to posting it lol. Would be hilarious if there is a loophole to hiring him after all of the state's media swearing that it was impossible. Petrino has been trending on my Twitter feed just because of Ferret Top shitting on him.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2023, 01:53 PMI call bullshit
Maybe they hope Petrino will punch Sam for bad calls. I know we wished he did that to Jimbo.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 28, 2023, 01:50 PMhttps://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876
I refuse to believe this. Nope.
No way.
He'd need approval from the Chancellor to be hired after being previously fired for cause, but even then I refuse to believe this is actually a possibility.
I can't believe Sam would do it, especially since everyone would be begging for him to be fired to Bobby could get the reins back again. What a toxic situation that would be. It'd made the 2006 season look like church camp.
I'm not sure ole jukebox could handle that
This feels like a smoke screen while the real (decidedly underwhelming) hire is finalized.
I have no idea if it is true, but it's sure getting lots of clicks on X
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 02:02 PMBeat me to posting it lol. Would be hilarious if there is a loophole to hiring him after all of the state's media swearing that it was impossible. Petrino has been trending on my Twitter feed just because of Ferret Top shitting on him.
THINK OF THE LAWSUITS! WE MAY NEVER RECOVER!
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 12:26 PMIf you have a big hire, just fucking announce it.
Also, wut mean?
https://x.com/DrewBandz3/status/1729553414240055557?s=20
P.E.T.R.I.O.N.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 28, 2023, 01:50 PMhttps://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876
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My mother will be 99 in January. She will celebrate if Bobby Petrino is rehired. She has never (regularly) cussed, drank, or smoked, but said one time she didn't give a damn who he slept with. And she meant it.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 28, 2023, 02:21 PMMy mother will be 99 in January. She will celebrate if Bobby Petrino is rehired. She has never (regularly) cussed, drank, or smoked, but said one time she didn't give a damn who he slept with. And she meant it.
so say we all
Suddenly I'm interested in joining Arkansas Edge.
If you want to make sure season ticket sales don't fall off a cliff and you want a portion of the fanbase back on Pittman's side then Petrino is the move.
if this is true, someone needs to make sure pittman gets a busy signal when he tries to call up to the press box.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 28, 2023, 02:32 PMif this is true, someone needs to make sure pittman gets a busy signal when he tries to call up to the press box.
Just give Sam the old broken headset they used to let Danny Nutt wear on the sidelines.
Bobby's problem was always putting a staff together. No one wanted to work with him. Supposedly he's mellowed out a bunch, but either way, he'd need a good OL coach. I doubt Chris Klenakis is even coaching anymore.
His A&M offense left a lot to be desired and we won't have an Ainais Smith, Stewart or Moss.
Would it be BMFP, or would it be "grandkids and a gay son" Bobby Petrino? One excites me, the other makes me worry that the head coach may have too much influence in play calls, ala Jimbo.
Next order of business: Are there enough brain cells on our offense to execute his style of play?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 28, 2023, 01:50 PMhttps://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876
I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
Please let this be true!!
for the record...
HawgBeat has looked into the issue and discovered the source of confusion to be UA Systemwide Policy 405.6, which has to do with the termination of employment. It states that "an employee who has been dismissed for cause...shall not be eligible for re-employment within any University of Arkansas System's campuses, units or divisions."
However, the UA Board of Trustees did not enact that policy until May 23, 2013, more than 13 months after Long fired Petrino.
That is a key fact because on Aug. 25, 2017, a procedure was added to UASP 405.6 that specified the "policy is not intended to modify any eligibility determination made...prior to the adoption of the policy."
In layman's terms, the policy does not apply to Petrino because he was fired before it was adopted."
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 02:37 PMHis A&M offense left a lot to be desired and we won't have an Ainais Smith, Stewart or Moss.
It all depends on whether Sam would stay out of the way or if he'd meddle like Jimbo.
Bobby's offense at A&M didn't look quite the same as what he ran here...fewer wheel routes, crossing patterns, etc. Maybe that was by his design, but it's conceivable that two offensive geniuses wearing headsets was one too many, and that the wrong one had veto power.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 02:38 PMNext order of business: Are there enough brain cells on our offense to execute his style of play?
Or talent like Ryan M, Joe Adams, Ronnie Wingo, Jarius Wright, etc.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 02:41 PMIt all depends on whether Sam would stay out of the way or if he'd meddle like Jimbo.
Bobby's offense at A&M didn't look quite the same as what he ran here...fewer wheel routes, crossing patterns, etc. Maybe that was by his design, but it's conceivable that two offensive geniuses wearing headsets was one too many, and that the wrong one had veto power.
His offense looked different after Jimbo was shitcanned. Against LSU, with the 3rd stringer at QB, it was noticeable.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 02:41 PMIt all depends on whether Sam would stay out of the way or if he'd meddle like Jimbo.
Bobby's offense at A&M didn't look quite the same as what he ran here...fewer wheel routes, crossing patterns, etc. Maybe that was by his design, but it's conceivable that two offensive geniuses wearing headsets was one too many, and that the wrong one had veto power.
Bobby's offense at Missouri State looked like what I remember from here. I recall them going for it on 4th and 1, and saying to my dad "Bobby's going to run Cowboy go-get-it" and he did. I believe for about a 40 yard TD.
Jimbo probably didn't let him have control.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 02:33 PMJust give Sam the old broken headset they used to let Danny Nutt wear on the sidelines.
:maundoed:
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 02:43 PMHis offense looked different after Jimbo was shitcanned. Against LSU, with the 3rd stringer at QB, it was noticeable.
I thought the same.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 28, 2023, 02:44 PMBobby's offense at Missouri State looked like what I remember from here. I recall them getting a fumble recovery and saying to my dad "Bobby's going to run Cowboy go-get-it" and he did. I believe for about a 70 yard TD.
Jimbo probably didn't let him have control.
That seems to be the most logical explanation to me as well.
Maybe he could bring that 3rd string QB with him?
So just click bait or is there actual smoke?
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876?s=42&t=eQXeC48r83kmtX_D_QMtbQ
Petrino's daughter is married to the new HC at Missouri State up in Springfield, so being closer to four grandkids would sweeten the deal.
Backpack says it's Petrino.
Maybe Ferret Top will leave the state in shame and shambles
That would awesome if for no other reason than to close the circle and lift the curse.
And totally agree with this:
https://x.com/michaelwbratton/status/1729590324182290796?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 03:01 PMMaybe Ferret Top will leave the state in shame and shambles
He's already in shambles, incapable of shame, and has nowhere else to go.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 02:58 PMSo just click bait or is there actual smoke?
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876?s=42&t=eQXeC48r83kmtX_D_QMtbQ
that's where i'm at. on the one hand it could be bs and let "sam tried" be the narrative after announcing someone else.
or, it could be the powers that be realizing that they really need to generate some excitement - one way or another - with the fanbase.
Trey Biddy seems to think there's something to it.
If they announced Bobby at the duke game place would go ballistic.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 28, 2023, 01:50 PMhttps://x.com/petethamel/status/1729587776390135876
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 28, 2023, 02:40 PMfor the record...
HawgBeat has looked into the issue and discovered the source of confusion to be UA Systemwide Policy 405.6, which has to do with the termination of employment. It states that "an employee who has been dismissed for cause...shall not be eligible for re-employment within any University of Arkansas System's campuses, units or divisions."
However, the UA Board of Trustees did not enact that policy until May 23, 2013, more than 13 months after Long fired Petrino.
That is a key fact because on Aug. 25, 2017, a procedure was added to UASP 405.6 that specified the "policy is not intended to modify any eligibility determination made...prior to the adoption of the policy."
In layman's terms, the policy does not apply to Petrino because he was fired before it was adopted."
Fuck Pete Thamel and bigpig.
No, I'm an idiot. Listen to me. No matter what happens in the next days l want you to know that when I read both messages l was so happy that my heart leapt. It leapt in my chest.
Break out yer BMFP shirts!
Biddy saying Bobby is back.
Hearing that BMFP is in Fayetteville and going to be announced as OC at halftime of the Duke game.
Helluva specific rumor if it is not true.
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 03:21 PMHearing that BMFP is in Fayetteville and going to be announced as OC at halftime of the Duke game.
Helluva specific rumor if it is not true.
This is what makes me think it isn't true. No way they upstage the basketball team's biggest home game in a decade for the announcement of the OC hire.
I realize it is Bobby but it just doesn't make sense to me.
I really hope I'm wrong.
There are no words to describe how happy this will make me.
There are literally no words to describe how happy this will make me.
Sam Pittman you son of a bitch. I could kiss you and Yurachek. I've got the joy joy joy joy down in my heart...
Fire up the fight song we ready to shock the world!!
BMFP!!!!!
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 02:37 PMHis A&M offense left a lot to be desired and we won't have an Ainais Smith, Stewart or Moss.
His A&M offense didn't exactly burn it up. But he can still get a man open for a 15-20 yard gain pretty regularly, as he showed on Saturday. We haven't had that in a while.
"Here's your new Arkansas offensive coordinator BMFP and the 2023 Arkansas volleyball team.
Now let's stand up and Call Those Hogs!" :))
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 28, 2023, 02:40 PMThat is a key fact because on Aug. 25, 2017, a procedure was added to UASP 405.6 that specified the "policy is not intended to modify any eligibility determination made...prior to the adoption of the policy."
In layman's terms, the policy does not apply to Petrino because he was fired before it was adopted."
I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't that instead be applicable to someone who was fired
and then later rehired before that policy addendum was adopted? Like if you were fired for cause and later rehired in 2016 you couldn't be fired because of this policy retroacting?
Or am I reading/interpreting that wrong?
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 03:27 PM"Here's your new Arkansas offensive coordinator BMFP and the 2023 Arkansas volleyball team.
Now let's stand up and Call Those Hogs!" :))
Out MF standing.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 03:00 PMBackpack says it's Petrino.
How many announcements have you made in the last 3 days?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 02:43 PMHis offense looked different after Jimbo was shitcanned. Against LSU, with the 3rd stringer at QB, it was noticeable.
Even with Jimbo's stank on him, Bobby took A&M's offense from 101st in points per game to 26th in lone season there.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 28, 2023, 03:27 PMI'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't that instead be applicable to someone who was fired and then later rehired before that policy addendum was adopted? Like if you were fired for cause and later rehired in 2016 you couldn't be fired because of this policy retroacting?
Or am I reading/interpreting that wrong?
"eligibility determination" sounds like whether or not someone is "eligible to be hired." Thus, it doesn't apply to Bobby. The rule in question does not make him ineligible since the rule was made later.
(I am not a lawyer)
If true, talk about saying fuck it all and rolling the dice.
That move ends in awesome, or in a crash and burn that redefines crashing and burning. There will be no inbetween.
Quote from: CardHog on Nov 28, 2023, 03:31 PMHow many announcements have you made in the last 3 days?
Backpack is Biddy.
Is Yurachek still working behind closed doors and a new head coach announcement is soon?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 03:37 PMIf true, talk about saying fuck it all and rolling the dice.
That move ends in awesome, or in a crash and burn that redefines crashing and burning. There will be no inbetween.
Either way, it's going to be a helluva ride
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 03:37 PMIf true, talk about saying fuck it all and rolling the dice.
That move ends in awesome, or in a crash and burn that redefines crashing and burning. There will be no inbetween.
yep. it could end up being closure for both sam and petrino.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 03:37 PMIf true, talk about saying fuck it all and rolling the dice.
That move ends in awesome, or in a crash and burn that redefines crashing and burning. There will be no inbetween.
Nah, it would be a great hire. Sam should have been fired. We were going to go 2-10 or 3-9 next year anyway and Sam would be fired at the end of the year. It can only work. If it fails we're no worse off than we would have been.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 28, 2023, 03:42 PMNah, it would be a great hire. Sam should have been fired. We were going to go 2-10 or 3-9 next year anyway and Sam would be fired at the end of the year. It can only work. If it fails we're no worse off than we would have been.
exactly.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 28, 2023, 03:42 PMNah, it would be a great hire. Sam should have been fired. We were going to go 2-10 or 3-9 next year anyway and Sam would be fired at the end of the year. It can only work. If it fails we're no worse off than we would have been.
Sam hobbles off into the sunset and Bobby takes the reigns
It's all a ploy for BMFP to be named Head Coach when Sam gets canned.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 28, 2023, 03:43 PMSam hobbles off into the sunset and Bobby takes the reigns
Handle bars
Maybe Sam starts a new trend: Head Coaching from the box. Bobby can leave him a fridge of cobeer up there and take over.
Wonder what Jeff Long is thinking right now.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 03:49 PMWonder what Jeff Long is thinking right now.
Millionaire Jeff Long once used his Twitter account to try to get his daughter votes in a scholarship competition, against other kids whose parents are poor. As if she needed financial aid to attend fucking Missouri.
Fuck that kermit-the-frong talking piece of shit.
Is this really happening. Holy shit. I don't care that this is old Bobby...fuck it I'll take it
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 03:49 PMWonder what Jeff Long is thinking right now.
What about the integrity?
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 03:49 PMWonder what Jeff Long is thinking right now.
Bet he ain't smiling
It has the potential for working really well. Sam can handle the administration and recruit and Petrino can bust some asses and instill some discipline and toughness into these kids.
Petrino is a bad hire. Another tired washed up old fart. Marion would have been a far better choice running a modern innovative offense and young.
We'll see how these two personalities meld. Sam being all aw shucks and Petrino abusing ticket takers and secretaries.
Kennedy needs to be run out of the state. Dont give a shit who runs the offense or calls plays if you can't block
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 03:25 PMThis is what makes me think it isn't true. No way they upstage the basketball team's biggest home game in a decade for the announcement of the OC hire.
I realize it is Bobby but it just doesn't make sense to me.
I really hope I'm wrong.
How would that upstage the basketball game?
https://x.com/clowespn/status/1729614068447625642?s=46&t=i_0mTNgM1GpNEy2VHgb9Hw
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 28, 2023, 03:54 PMIt has the potential for working really well. Sam can handle the administration and recruit and Petrino can bust some asses and instill some discipline and toughness into these kids.
Would Max Johnson be worth having?
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 28, 2023, 03:27 PMHis A&M offense didn't exactly burn it up. But he can still get a man open for a 15-20 yard gain pretty regularly, as he showed on Saturday. We haven't had that in a while.
Briles could get us 15 yards, if we were throwing toward the sidelines.
I am still very skeptical about whether this is true, but if it isn't, there are going to be a hell of a lot of people issuing retractions.
It's probably the one thing Yurachek could do to get the fanbase back immediately, so I will give him credit for that. If true.
Some of y'all better 'pologize to the AD
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 03:57 PMWould Max Johnson be worth having?
dude was 2nd string at a&m and had season ending injuries both seasons.
petrino went to aggie to coach weigman.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2023, 03:54 PMPetrino is a bad hire. Another tired washed up old fart. Marion would have been a far better choice running a modern innovative offense and young.
We'll see how these two personalities meld. Sam being all aw shucks and Petrino abusing ticket takers and secretaries.
Kennedy needs to be run out of the state. Dont give a shit who runs the offense or calls plays if you can't block
It's the best we can do. None of those young guys with a career ahead of them are coming to this shit show. Of the old guys who would, Petrino is the best, smartest, and the one who still has something to prove.
I'm told he's going to ride onto the court on a Harley at halftime of the basketball game as they announce his return. Keep this here.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 28, 2023, 03:57 PMI am still very skeptical about whether this is true, but if it isn't, there are going to be a hell of a lot of people issuing retractions.
It's probably the one thing Yurachek could do to get the fanbase back immediately, so I will give him credit for that. If true.
Yeah, a bunch of people about to cancel season tickets just said "wait a minute..."
We're gonna feel like shit when they trot out Paul Petrino.
https://x.com/BenDevine15/status/1729621154866852005?
good point
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2023, 04:07 PMWe're gonna feel like shit when they trot out Paul Petrino.
there would be an insurrection-- a real one...
Bill is a funny dude.
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Quote from: Trigger7672 on Nov 28, 2023, 03:56 PMHow would that upstage the basketball game?
Have BMFP ride out on the Court on a Harley at halftime.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 03:58 PMSome of y'all better 'pologize to the AD
no shit. and a little nod to pittman.
when they met at the end of the game last year, that "give me a call" (at least that's what the lip readers said) comment obviously had some meaning.
Tera Talmadge closed the deal according to inside sources. :))
Tera >>>>> Jessica
Let's be real this probably won't end well but at least things got way more interesting.
He didn't get his buyout last time so he's coming back to get it.
Now imagine if Sam's answer to Biddy after the game had been more along the lines of, "Momentum? Yeah, look, we've been working for the past week on bringing in a new offensive coordinator that is going to make y'all piss yourselves. When the paper people get that finalized the announcement is going to make more waves in the SEC than me doing a cannonball off my dock."
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Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 04:12 PMTera Talmadge closed the deal according to inside sources. :))
Tera >>>>> Jessica
Lucky bastard probably just wanted to see her dressed as Princess Leia from Jabba the Hutt's palace.
"Wait, no buyout?"
"Nope."
"Just Tera in a late-season Halloween costume?"
"Yep."
The administration looked at the program, saw where it was likely headed (worse than Chad Morris territory), and made a move that would at the minimum sell tickets and put butts in seats next year.
This would definitely be a "go big or go home" move.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 28, 2023, 04:25 PMThis would definitely be a "go big or go home" move.
yep.
could help put out the fire or throw a gasoline can on it.
Ballsy move by Hunter Yuracheck.
Announces new NIL deal followed by bringing BMFP back
"How's my ass taste Woopig?"
- Hunter Y
Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 28, 2023, 04:24 PMThe administration looked at the program, saw where it was likely headed (worse than Chad Morris territory), and made a move that would at the minimum sell tickets and put butts in seats next year.
Truth. And it is very surprising to see. They have a pulse.
https://x.com/pregameempire/status/1729594153225326844?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
Wonder if Bobby will run Kennedy off? I could see that happening.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2023, 03:15 PMBreak out yer BMFP shirts!
I've still got one of the "Got Bobby?" t-shirts at the lake. You bet I'll break it out.
It's great for many reasons. It makes a national splash. It's a great story. Hell, the way it all went down 11 years ago, it's THE story in the SEC.
I know we aren't going to win the championship. But relevance and keeping the program and brand in the national spotlight is always a good thing.
Everyone will be watching the return. And if we win? Oh boy.
What a great day.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 28, 2023, 04:34 PMWonder if Bobby will run Kennedy off? I could see that happening.
Pittman to Bobby: "If I hire you, would you mind being my hatchet man when I have to do something mean like let someone go?"
BMFP: >:D
Twitter is on fire today
https://twitter.com/jackphillipo/status/1729596919360495667?t=N2XB5xDEuKnNHm8Zq7Q9yA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/jackphillipo/status/1729596919360495667?t=N2XB5xDEuKnNHm8Zq7Q9yA&s=19)
Lololol
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 28, 2023, 04:00 PMIt's the best we can do. None of those young guys with a career ahead of them are coming to this shit show. Of the old guys who would, Petrino is the best, smartest, and the one who still has something to prove.
I'll agree with you on that. Most of our commits were 5 when he was here. Hope he can be pleasant on the phone calling them. Sams probably chugged a case of Coors already today.
Think Arkansas will push out some lame video like they did for Mike's return to the basketball program? I see another "Coming Home" by P Diddy video in our future.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 04:53 PMThink Arkansas will push out some lame video like they did for Mike's return to the basketball program? I see another "Coming Home" by P Diddy video in our future.
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We definitely had a better stadium atmosphere during the days of Bobby. A lot of that came just from winning games, but I would be totally down for letting him have some input there.
They'll be a segment of the fan base that won't know how to feel about this because they've been conditioned that Bobby P fucked up the program for the last decade when in truth it was Jeff Long who fucked up by not covering up a little side shit by the head coach that had us in the god damn fucking BCS. That still pisses me off...the man needed to let off a little steam and didn't even want to leave the office to do it.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 04:58 PMThey'll be a segment of the fan base that won't know how to feel about this
Yeah, fuck those fans.
https://x.com/razorbacksusa/status/1729636697443532992?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 04:59 PMYeah, fuck those fans.
In every available orifice.
Violently if necessary.
I like to think I'm going to be magnanimous when I get on Twitter tonight after my celebratory glass of Blanton's. I'm going to try...
Chris Gragg is promoting BMFP on twitter now as someone who will develop players. We're about to see the difference between players "liking" a coach (Sam) and players willing to be pushed and developed by their coach.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 05:10 PMChris Gragg is promoting BMFP on twitter now as someone who will develop players. We're about to see the difference between players "liking" a coach (Sam) and players willing to be pushed and developed by their coach.
Good Cop, Bad Cop
Quote from: red death on Nov 28, 2023, 03:26 PMThere are no words to describe how happy this will make me.
There are literally no words to describe how happy this will make me.
Sam Pittman you son of a bitch. I could kiss you and Yurachek. I've got the joy joy joy joy down in my heart...
Fire up the fight song we ready to shock the world!!
BMFP!!!!!
Im shell shocked over here. In complete disbelief.
As much shit as I've given Sam this season, he completely knocked this hire out of the park.
Quote from: wmr on Nov 28, 2023, 03:52 PMMillionaire Jeff Long once used his Twitter account to try to get his daughter votes in a scholarship competition, against other kids whose parents are poor. As if she needed financial aid to attend fucking Missouri.
Fuck that kermit-the-frong talking piece of shit.
I've never heard this story. Wow
I know this, if Bobby were our OC we would have scored more than 3pts against Miss Sy
As long as we get 2004-2011 BMFP.
https://x.com/ronniewingojr/status/1729631735669727552?s=20
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 05:21 PMhttps://x.com/ronniewingojr/status/1729631735669727552?s=20
If he can get his little brother to come here...
https://x.com/PetrinoMistress/status/1729610279049183740?s=20
My dick cannot possibly take any more beatings, but it may anyway.
All these morons on Finebaum saying Bobby didn't want a mobile QB...dumbasses. Also the faggot that called before that saying Bobby isn't a moral guy or some shit. Whatever. who gives a fuck about that. Win. That's the only moral I care about.
You know, I know, and everyone knows that Sam Pittman knows Petrino is smarter than he is and knows more about offense than he does. I think that means Sam will get out of his way, let him do his thing, and lean on his knowledge. I really can't think of anyone better suited to tighten up this clusterfuck ip there than BMFP.
This guy knows what's up
https://x.com/AugustaveIsaiah/status/1729617925986771113?s=20
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 28, 2023, 03:40 PMyep. it could end up being closure for both sam and petrino.
You've spent the past 11 years preaching how this could not happen.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 05:29 PMAll these morons on Finebaum saying Bobby didn't want a mobile QB...dumbasses. Also the faggot that called before that saying Bobby isn't a moral guy or some shit. Whatever. who gives a fuck about that. Win. That's the only moral I care about.
They never heard of Lamar Jackson?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 04:10 PMHave BMFP ride out on the Court on a Harley at halftime.
to back in black blasting over the speakers, decked out in all black gear.
Maybe he can punch a Jeff long cutout at midcourt.
I have already seen the requisite lazy article collecting tweets badmouthing Arkansas and this hire.
My favorite said this "reeks of desperation."
You're goddam right. Have you seen the last 10 years? The 2023 performances? We're as desperate as an incel at a strip club, and morals are about as important at this point.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 28, 2023, 05:35 PMYou've spent the past 11 years preaching how this could not happen.
i was wrong. thanks for keeping up with my posting.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 05:29 PMAll these morons on Finebaum saying Bobby didn't want a mobile QB...dumbasses. Also the faggot that called before that saying Bobby isn't a moral guy or some shit. Whatever. who gives a fuck about that. Win. That's the only moral I care about.
Yeah, I heard all that. I cringe every time that Arkansas fan from Tulsa gets on.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 28, 2023, 05:35 PMThey never heard of Lamar Jackson?
Some guy got on there and said he never wanted Lamar Jackson and that Jackson was all set to transfer to LSU but ended up staying put despite Petrino. The caller was clearly a LSU fag and made statements saying that Jackson didn't fit the Petrino offense and he never wanted a mobile QB. None of that was true. He recruited that big guy that later transferred to NC State that was a mobile qb who would have likely played over Brandon Allen had Petrino remained as HC.
The deal with Petrino historically he's won with different kinds of QBs and changed his offense to suit his talent. Lamar Jackson in college was certainly not a skilled passing QB. He got better but mainly he was another Matt Jones type guy that made video game moves that no coach could ever design for. Petrino harnessed that and made him into a NFL caliber passer. He followed that up by attempting to do it again with the Cunningham kid and it failed badly thus why his run at Louisville flamed out in spectacular fashion.
Before anyone yammers on about it. Does it really matter if he flames out at Arkansas in a few years if it means we win some fucking games in the mean time? Chances are it's going to be a deal where we've seen this movie. When things go bad they fucking go bad at Arkansas regardless who the coach is or talent on the field and that's gotten worse with NIL/Portal. Guys can punk out and hop in the portal now and end up in better financial shape.
Love to see what Bobby can do with KJ.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 05:43 PMSome guy got on there and said he never wanted Lamar Jackson and that Jackson was all set to transfer to LSU but ended up staying put despite Petrino. The caller was clearly a LSU fag and made statements saying that Jackson didn't fit the Petrino offense and he never wanted a mobile QB. None of that was true. He recruited that big guy that later transferred to NC State that was a mobile qb who would have likely played over Brandon Allen had Petrino remained as HC.
The deal with Petrino historically he's won with different kinds of QBs and changed his offense to suit his talent. Lamar Jackson in college was certainly not a skilled passing QB. He got better but mainly he was another Matt Jones type guy that made video game moves that no coach could ever design for. Petrino harnessed that and made him into a NFL caliber passer. He followed that up by attempting to do it again with the Cunningham kid and it failed badly thus why his run at Louisville flamed out in spectacular fashion.
Before anyone yammers on about it. Does it really matter if he flames out at Arkansas in a few years if it means we win some fucking games in the mean time? Chances are it's going to be a deal where we've seen this movie. When things go bad they fucking go bad at Arkansas regardless who the coach is or talent on the field and that's gotten worse with NIL/Portal. Guys can punk out and hop in the portal now and end up in better financial shape.
The other response to anyone complaining that he doesn't want a mobile QB... Ryan Mallett. That dude was the opposite of mobile but he could still avoid sacks and pressure in the pocket. If the coach can build the offense around him then it doesn't matter how fast the QB is.
And also, pistol formation.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 28, 2023, 05:38 PMI have already seen the requisite lazy article collecting tweets badmouthing Arkansas and this hire.
My favorite said this "reeks of desperation."
You're goddam right. Have you seen the last 10 years? The 2023 performances? We're as desperate as an incel at a strip club, and morals are about as important at this point.
Desperate?
Worse?! How could things get any worse?! Take a look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell!
If this turns out to be real, I don't see how it favors KJ.
Quote from: aaron on Nov 28, 2023, 05:44 PMLove to see what Bobby can do with KJ.
Hopefully help him navigate the portal paperwork.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Nov 28, 2023, 05:50 PMIf this turns out to be real, I don't see how it favors KJ.
looks pretty real
https://www.nwahomepage.com/sports/pig-trail-nation/bobby-petrino-is-returning-to-arkansas/
Criswell, on the other hand...
I just hope he has free rein to come in and clean house on the offensive side of the ball. If he knows a better position coach, he needs to be able to bring them in.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 03:49 PMWonder what Jeff Long is thinking right now.
Fuck Jeff Long!
Quote from: Cornhogio on Nov 28, 2023, 05:51 PMHopefully help him navigate the portal paperwork.
I was ready for KJ to move on, but with this new information I'm pulling a Corso.
Not so fast, my friend.
Fuck all the idiots that said he must be fired the first time and that he couldn't be hired again. As usual, they were full of shit. Fuck those idiots
I don't think KJ is smart enough to work for Petrino.
This is the Petrino I want.
"Paul comes in and they stand at his desk where Bobby reads the score out loud: "Louisville 28, Slapdicks nothing. I f*&$ing love it, those little smurfs didn't even score a point." They looked at me and said, "that is what winners do, kick their ass." He told me to set it down where he could look at it and as I was leaving he grabbed me and said "get used to it, we are going to kick their ass every year."
Bobby Petrino's record against UK: 4-0.
Hopefully Petrino hates that Pedophile in Columbia this much.
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 05:54 PMI was ready for KJ to move on, but with this new information I'm pulling a Corso.
Not so fast, my friend.
would be KJ's best shot at saving a career by far, hope it happens because I feel like KJ was bad screwed over
Quote from: Cornhogio on Nov 28, 2023, 05:50 PMIf this turns out to be real, I don't see how it favors KJ.
I kinda think KJ will get told to move on if he hasn't already made that leap on his own. At this point he's going to be set in his ways and woefully struggled in Enos' system which is somewhere in the ball park of what Petrino does with pro style concepts. Petrino may feel a lot different about that.
The KJ I saw this season did not show much in the way of leadership and really didn't have any wily veteran moves to get out of bad situations you might come to expect from a QB that's played much of the last 4 seasons. I know that's a load of shit to place on a guy that had about 3 nanoseconds per snap but thems the breaks.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 05:58 PMI don't think KJ is smart enough to work for Petrino.
Not sure many of our current players understand how many times they are going to be called a MF'er.
Quote from: Hizog on Nov 28, 2023, 05:58 PMThis is the Petrino I want.
"Paul comes in and they stand at his desk where Bobby reads the score out loud: "Louisville 28, Slapdicks nothing. I f*&$ing love it, those little smurfs didn't even score a point." They looked at me and said, "that is what winners do, kick their ass." He told me to set it down where he could look at it and as I was leaving he grabbed me and said "get used to it, we are going to kick their ass every year."
Bobby Petrino's record against UK: 4-0.
Hopefully Petrino hates that Pedophile in Columbia this much.
And in College Station, and Oxford, and Baton Rouge, and Austin...etc.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 28, 2023, 05:57 PMFuck all the idiots that said he must be fired the first time and that he couldn't be hired again. As usual, they were full of shit. Fuck those idiots
10 year SOL ran on the employment lawsuits.
(that's legal humor. Barely)
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 06:00 PMNot sure many of our current players understand how many times they are going to be called a MF'er.
I hope Latham is the first target.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 28, 2023, 05:38 PMi was wrong. thanks for keeping up with my posting.
C'mon man. I mean the admission was good, but if his name was even mentioned it was like the bat signal and you'd show up admonishing any and all who suggested it.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 28, 2023, 05:33 PMYou know, I know, and everyone knows that Sam Pittman knows Petrino is smarter than he is and knows more about offense than he does. I think that means Sam will get out of his way, let him do his thing, and lean on his knowledge. I really can't think of anyone better suited to tighten up this clusterfuck ip there than BMFP.
Sam may become the first head coach to coach via zoom...
from a lake house three hours away from the stadium.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 05:58 PMI don't think KJ is smart enough to work for Petrino.
Mallet wasn't exactly a Mensa candidate.
RIP sir
Ferrot Top tweeted that Long moved back to NWA not long ago. I hope BP takes a dump in his front yard.
I hope the first MF goes at Cody Kennedy. As in "you're fuckin fired motherfucker!"
Oh and find a new career. You duck at the coachin thing...motherfucker.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:04 PMSam may become the first head coach to coach via zoom...
from a lake house three hours away from the stadium.
You glorious bastard. You win today.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2023, 06:08 PMI hope the first MF goes at Cody Kennedy. As in "you're fuckin fired motherfucker!"
Oh and find a new career. You duck at the coachin thing...motherfucker.
Are you still hoping for 0-12?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:00 PMAnd in College Station, and Oxford, and Baton Rouge, and Austin...etc.
Yea, I want him to win there too, but Mizzou has somehow gone from a team that I struggled to remember when listing all of the teams in the SEC, to a team I hate. Pedowitz is responsible for that and I hope Bobby beats the shit out of him.
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 06:06 PMMallet wasn't exactly a Mensa candidate.
RIP sir
Mallet could stand in the pocket, read the defense, and then make the throw on the crossing routes.
KJ has never been able to do that.
One thing BMFP could do is beat aTm. 3-0 against the Ags. Perhaps BMFP can get the Hogs back on the winning track against aTm.
https://x.com/AndyShook5/status/1729627381608923161?s=20
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 06:10 PMMallet could stand in the pocket, read the defense, and then make the throw on the crossing routes.
KJ has never been able to do that.
I dont rhink we've ran a crossing route since.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2023, 06:03 PMI hope Latham is the first target.
Crocodile tears out of every 6-7 300lb white dude with the flexibility of a 100 year old rubber tractor tire.
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 06:06 PMMallet wasn't exactly a Mensa candidate.
RIP sir
Surprisingly, a lot smarter than Wilson. A lot.
none of it matters without an avg Oline
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My little grandbaby Bri!!! <a href="https://t.co/7QjAEvVfJk">pic.twitter.com/7QjAEvVfJk</a></p>— Bobby Petrino (@CoachBPetrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBPetrino/status/1729654095500177648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://twitter.com/CoachBPetrino/status/1729654095500177648?s=19
Sam fucks up next year, we have the interim lined up and ready to go
That has to make it official....
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2023, 06:30 PMThat has to make it official....
Or props to Petrino for taking his troll game to 11
I may open my bottle of Angels Envy Private Selection that I've been saving.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 28, 2023, 06:27 PMSurprisingly, a lot smarter than Wilson. A lot.
Tom Brady liked him in the locker room supposedly. I think that has to mean something and it doesn't mean Mallet was a dummy.
If I could I'd motorboat the shit out of Pittmans tits right now.
We need to get this two thread thing figured out.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:39 PMWe need to get this two thread thing figured out.
No fucking shit...
His bio's updated to #WPS
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:39 PMWe need to get this two thread thing figured out.
This thread is for "we hate the coach and want him fired. Who should we get?"
The other thread is for general razorback football talk. Seems like this one doesn't need the Petrino stuff; the other one does. Although up until a few hours ago this thread was all the rage...
I think we can put it in hibernation until at least September.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 06:10 PMMallet could stand in the pocket, read the defense, and then make the throw on the crossing routes.
KJ has never been able to do that.
nobody ever said football players were bright individuals
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 28, 2023, 06:48 PMThis thread is for "we hate the coach and want him fired. Who should we get?"
The other thread is for general razorback football talk. Seems like this one doesn't need the Petrino stuff; the other one does. Although up until a few hours ago this thread was all the rage...
I think we can put it in hibernation until at least September.
Or change it to "The BMFP IS in the Room Part II"
Warmachine is gonna have an uptick in views tonight.
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 06:36 PMTom Brady liked him in the locker room supposedly. I think that has to mean something and it doesn't mean Mallet was a dummy.
tom Brady also believes if you drink enough water you won't get sunburned.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:51 PMOr change it to "The BMFP IS in the Room Part II"
ther are line two mods in this gd board so it will take a bit
Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 06:36 PMTom Brady liked him in the locker room supposedly. I think that has to mean something and it doesn't mean Mallet was a dummy.
Yea, I have no idea how he did in Calculus, but clearly his football I.Q. was really up there.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 28, 2023, 06:48 PMThis thread is for "we hate the coach and want him fired. Who should we get?"
The other thread is for general razorback football talk. Seems like this one doesn't need the Petrino stuff; the other one does. Although up until a few hours ago this thread was all the rage...
I think we can put it in hibernation until at least September.
idk I'm still seeing plenty of elephants in the room
Quote from: Pinkphiloyd on Nov 28, 2023, 06:54 PMYea, I have no idea how he did in Calculus, but clearly his football I.Q. was really up there.
It goes without saying if he were alive today there would have been people lobbying for him to get the OC job. or at least onto the staff as a QB coach.
Can't wait for Sam to stroll into his office at the crack of noon tomorrow and find Bobby sitting in his chair. I picture it the way Wyatt got his table from Billy Bob Thornton at the Oriental.
Quote from: Hizog on Nov 28, 2023, 06:59 PMCan't wait for Sam to stroll into his office at the crack of noon tomorrow and find Bobby sitting in his chair. I picture it the way Wyatt got his table from Billy Bob Thornton at the Oriental.
The full quote:
QuoteAfter telling the faro dealer at the Oriental Saloon, Johnny Tyler (Billy Bob Thornton), "No need to go heeled to get the bulge on a devil like you." Tyler asks, "Is that a fact?" Earp replies, "That's a fact." Tyler stands and says, "Well, I'm real scared." Earp says, "You're damn right you're scared. I can see that in your eyes. Go ahead. Go ahead, skin it. Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens." Earp then slaps him around before escorting him out of the saloon and taking over the faro table.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 07:02 PMThe full quote:
It's actually not that hard to imagine happening.
Just heard the plumbers are at the Broyles complex changing the toilets.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 28, 2023, 06:28 PM<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My little grandbaby Bri!!! <a href="https://t.co/7QjAEvVfJk">pic.twitter.com/7QjAEvVfJk</a></p>— Bobby Petrino (@CoachBPetrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBPetrino/status/1729654095500177648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Is HDN III his son-in-law?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 28, 2023, 06:39 PMWe need to get this two thread thing figured out.
Nobody wants to jinx it with a new thread.
And he's got an axe to grind against the backsides of a few SEC teams, starting with TAMU.
:thumb_up:
Bill Pusch is up there smiling.
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 06:06 PMMallet wasn't exactly a Mensa candidate.
RIP sir
Maybe not, but they don't fill stadiums for math or science tests. Mallet was football smart as hell and talented to boot. As someone else said I wish he was around to be a QB coach. RIP
And there it is. I saw some chick on TwiX throw out the sexual harassment angle. "Too many legal issues" to rehire him.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2023, 07:26 PMIs HDN III his son-in-law?
The Mexicali Rose don't play with no white girls
Thank god. I am going to take this as a sign that there is at least some semblance of intelligence in razorback athletics.
On a side note, several members of the nob just went on suicide watch. :><:
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 28, 2023, 06:07 PMFerrot Top tweeted that Long moved back to NWA not long ago. I hope BP takes a dump in his front yard.
Get me the address. I'll beat him to it. I'll even save a couple of bags from the dogs.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2023, 07:49 PMAnd there it is. I saw some chick on TwiX throw out the sexual harassment angle. "Too many legal issues" to rehire him.
These are the people who thought Nutt deserved a lifetime contract because he was a good, Christian man. I hope they all leave the fanbase permanently.
Someone told me Long came into Fayetteville, knocked on a guys door and made him an offer he couldn't refuse for his house. He should be forced to give that house to BMFP now.
I don't see how this can be a bad thing for Razorback Football AND I'll bet that Coach Pittman welcomes his new OC.
This is a good move. I see no downside.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 28, 2023, 06:32 PMI may open my bottle of Angels Envy Private Selection that I've been saving.
Blanton's for me.
Was going to wait until it was officially official, but if BMFP is posting the grand baby calling the Hogs that's close enough for me.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 28, 2023, 07:49 PMAnd there it is. I saw some chick on TwiX throw out the sexual harassment angle. "Too many legal issues" to rehire him.
oh lord here come the feminists out to screw up our hire. They can all fuck off.
Quote from: Hognrock on Nov 28, 2023, 07:43 PMMaybe not, but they don't fill stadiums for math or science tests. Mallet was football smart as hell and talented to boot. As someone else said I wish he was around to be a QB coach. RIP
Which was my point. KJ isn't the sharpest tack either, but I bet he'd look much improved with a year under BMFP.
Jeebus...we sure love drama over winning. The question is which Petrino do we get. The kinder and gentler one of late or does the softness and lack of accountability trigger Terminator BMFP mode? I can genuinely see a scenario where Petrino smashes that damn jukebox with Larry, slaps the colbeer and chicken leg out of Fatboy's greasy mits, grabs him by the collar and says "LOOK AT ME, I'M THE FUCKING CAPTAIN NOW, FAT ASS!".
I hope they use some of this NIL for a QB that can consistently make plays with his arm, some speed at WR and some olinemen who aren't constantly pissing themselves.
This will be one helluva redemption arc or one helluva meltdown. Sounds perfect for Netflix.
If there was a loophole, why didn't we hire him 2 coaches ago?
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 08:17 PMWhich was my point. KJ isn't the sharpest tack either, but I bet he'd look much improved with a year under BMFP.
I'm with you and agree.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2023, 08:12 PMoh lord here come the feminists out to screw up our hire. They can all fuck off.
I challenged her about it, to clarify that there needs to be a victim who actually brings the action and that hadn't happened. And that it was 12 years ago, which I have to think would be well past any statute of limitations.
She just said I didn't understand and clammed up.
Casey Dick looked like he'd be lucky to start at Pulaski Academy until Bobby got a hold of him.
Not worried about QBs, but we still have an OL issue to fix.
I think Petrino could make Briswell look pretty damn good.
I have to say, I didn't think there was ANYTHING that would make me give the Pittman experiment more time.
No OC move that would change it, certainly.
I can actually get behind giving Pittman another year ONLY because of the return of BMFP. I think, most importantly, a lot of people about to dump their season tickets won't in fact do so.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 28, 2023, 08:23 PMIf there was a loophole, why didn't we hire him 2 coaches ago?
well this has been tossed around among the message boards since the game against Bobby while he was at Missouri State. I know I never took the talk seriously but it's seems as though this is happening even though I was told that it was unpossible. Even though I believe I've said many times if you want to win bad enough you can make anything happen.
No doubt this was meant to whore for money more so to appease fans. No doubt many donors have told the UA/RF to fuck off until you bring something that merits their attention. Under the circumstances the only way anyone worth a fuck was coming to Ark is if they were previously somehow damaged goods/desperate/disgraced or some young hungry guy with a innovative system looking to prove himself. Well we know which way this is headed. Consider attention has now been given...
Quote from: TC on Nov 28, 2023, 08:17 PMWhich was my point. KJ isn't the sharpest tack either, but I bet he'd look much more like a H-back with a year under BMFP.
😇
I'm really nostalgic for the Sins Of thread. I wish my memory was more like it used to be.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 28, 2023, 08:19 PMJeebus...we sure love drama over winning. The question is which Petrino do we get. The kinder and gentler one of late or does the softness and lack of accountability trigger Terminator BMFP mode?
This is why I'm cautiously optimistic.
I love the shit out of BMFP, especially after the depths we've sunk to, but this is a legit question as to what type of coach he is now.
He's 62 and a grandfather now, and he's been through some shit and been humbled, fired, and relegated to a coordinator role at a school and state he used to own.
I sure as hell hope he still has it. I guess the good thing is that if it doesn't work out, Pittman will be gone this time next year anyway and people can finally shut the fuck up about Petrino.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 28, 2023, 08:59 PMThis is why I'm cautiously optimistic.
I love the shit out of BMFP, especially after the depths we've sunk to, but this is a legit question as to what type of coach he is now.
He's 62 and a grandfather now, and he's been through some shit and been humbled, fired, and relegated to a coordinator role at a school and state he used to own.
I sure as hell hope he still has it.
Maybe he will come back with a desire to make things right.
I'll take a national championship. That'll do it.
Please correct thread title.
I told my family on our perpetual family text that I don't believe he will be as good as he was 12 years ago-- at least his offenses won't be as successful. But I watched a good bit of the A&M - LSU game the other day and there were plenty of times A&M had WRs that were wide open 15-20 yards downfield. Bet we don't throw a lot of two yard passes on 3rd and 10 any more.
I skipped this aTm game at Jerryworld for the first time.
I will go next year, even if we still struggle. BMFP gave us some GREAT games against the Aggies there.
Wait, wut? I've been at work all day and just now seeing this. Is this actually happening?
Looks like someone hasn't died yet from the goat aids.
https://x.com/zeke_ulrey/status/1729627155016097918?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
https://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1729664130640994700?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 09:29 PMLooks like someone hasn't died yet from the goat aids.
https://x.com/zeke_ulrey/status/1729627155016097918?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
I wonder if he stuck that cigar in his ass before he put it in his mouth.
I put Bobby Petrino return to Arkansas and this came out
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Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 28, 2023, 09:15 PMI skipped this aTm game at Jerryworld for the first time.
I will go next year, even if we still struggle. BMFP gave us some GREAT games against the Aggies there.
Thankfully it'll be the last one. I'd love to end this stupid series with a win.
Yes they intentionally led Mike Irwin astray just like when they made him say that fat girl was the one to make the decision to fire Bert.
The return of BMFP, reminds me of this.
I love how the media was categorically and emphatically wrong about everything in this offseason so far.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8fTWqBR/
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 28, 2023, 08:34 PMCasey Dick looked like he'd be lucky to start at Pulaski Academy until Bobby got a hold of him.
Not worried about QBs, but we still have an OL issue to fix.
I think Petrino could make Briswell look pretty damn good.
Petrino said about Dick that he knew he could be a serviceable quarterback back after watching some film of him. Claimed the only problem was his footwork was all fucked up.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 02:12 PMTHINK OF THE LAWSUITS! WE MAY NEVER RECOVER!
100s of lawsuits obviously incoming tomorrow.
Quote from: Ty Webb on Nov 28, 2023, 10:06 PM100s of lawsuits obviously incoming tomorrow.
Look who the cat dragged in.
Welcome back, buddy.
https://twitter.com/strait_vibinn/status/1729635419480854818
Quote from: Ty Webb on Nov 28, 2023, 10:06 PM100s of lawsuits obviously incoming tomorrow.
We're getting the band back together!
Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 28, 2023, 09:30 PMhttps://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1729664130640994700?s=46&t=NrPjpy_epRtTy1aC7Op3bw
Damn! That's more than I've watched of the season. Goosebumps.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 28, 2023, 10:14 PMLook who the cat dragged in.
Welcome back, buddy.
Had to come here to read reactions to the BP news. I'll credit Dirk with the Zeke Ulrey post on X for pushing me over the edge.
Quote from: Feral on Nov 28, 2023, 08:59 PMThis is why I'm cautiously optimistic.
I love the shit out of BMFP, especially after the depths we've sunk to, but this is a legit question as to what type of coach he is now.
He's 62 and a grandfather now, and he's been through some shit and been humbled, fired, and relegated to a coordinator role at a school and state he used to own.
I sure as hell hope he still has it. I guess the good thing is that if it doesn't work out, Pittman will be gone this time next year anyway and people can finally shut the fuck up about Petrino.
Agreed.
Will he be in the box or on the sideline?
At some point he and Sam will disagree, what happens then?
It's gotta be awkward working as an underling somewhere where you used to be boss and controlled everything right?
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 28, 2023, 03:27 PMHis A&M offense didn't exactly burn it up. But he can still get a man open for a 15-20 yard gain pretty regularly, as he showed on Saturday. We haven't had that in a while.
He was working with backup QBs for the last 8+ games this year as Weigman was lost for season in game 4.
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 28, 2023, 08:53 PM😇
Fuck it, let's go. Put him a Tig
Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 28, 2023, 10:24 PMAgreed.
Will he be in the box or on the sideline?
At some point he and Sam will disagree, what happens then?
It's gotta be awkward working as an underling somewhere where you used to be boss and controlled everything right?
12 years later? I wouldnt think so. That was a lifetime ago.
BMFP
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 28, 2023, 06:03 PM10 year SOL ran on the employment lawsuits.
(that's legal humor. Barely)
Not a lawyer, but I DO know about workplace sidepieces and hiring them. There was nothing illegal about what he did and no lawsuits would have come if we retained him, since firing him didn't change the 'damages' one single bit if they existed. Most don't know it, but as long as it isn't a workplace culture thing, you can hire your sidepiece to a job position (paramour preference).
Don't ask me how I know these things:)
Quote from: Feral on Nov 28, 2023, 08:59 PMThis is why I'm cautiously optimistic.
I love the shit out of BMFP, especially after the depths we've sunk to, but this is a legit question as to what type of coach he is now.
He's 62 and a grandfather now, and he's been through some shit and been humbled, fired, and relegated to a coordinator role at a school and state he used to own.
I sure as hell hope he still has it. I guess the good thing is that if it doesn't work out, Pittman will be gone this time next year anyway and people can finally shut the fuck up about Petrino.
I believe Will Rogers is in the portal. Drop some of this new money on someone who can actually make a difference and fits his offense.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 28, 2023, 09:29 PMLooks like someone hasn't died yet from the goat aids.
https://x.com/zeke_ulrey/status/1729627155016097918?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
I forgot all about this douche canoe. I'd kill for a vial or two of his tears to keep in my spice cabinet.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 29, 2023, 01:53 AMI believe Will Rogers is in the portal. Drop some of this new money on someone who can actually make a difference and fits his offense.
Do Criswell and/or Singleton not? I've never seen Singleton take a snap. The only time I've watched Criswell play play was the Missouri game. Obviously he didn't set shit on fire but I lay most of that blame at the feet of the o-line.
Quote from: Pinkphiloyd on Nov 29, 2023, 04:09 AMDo Criswell and/or Singleton not? I've never seen Singleton take a snap. The only time I've watched Criswell play play was the Missouri game. Obviously he didn't set shit on fire but I lay most of that blame at the feet of the o-line.
One thing I like about Petrino is that he adapts his offense around the QB. It doesn't matter if they are a pocket passer or dual threat, they have to make quick decisions and read defenses, things that aren't KJ's strengths. I don't know if Criswell or Singleton is the answer because they haven't done anything at this level. I'd rather get an experienced QB for next season and try to develop or move on from the ones that we have now.
Sam,
Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do something like this...
and totally redeem yourself.
Anyway does Petrino get to pick his own staff on the offense? How much control is he given? Those are the looming questions in my mind. Why give him the keys if you aren't going to allow him to provide the ole Italian tune-up?
I can certainly see Sam Pittman being on board with this...I can't imagine HY jamming Petrino in on Pittman akin to what A&M did to Jimbo.
I feel like this was something kicked around last season and for whatever reason it just didn't happen. Petrino took the UNLV gig and then was offered the OC job at A&M a week or three after that. Briles playing hanky during this process and then leaving us hanging in mid-jan may have fucked it up for us getting the band back together sooner. Anyway it seems there was some relationships formed between Odom, Pittman, and Petrino during that game with Missouri State. I think Odom and Pittman came away really impressed by what Petrino was able to do against them with the talent he had to work with. I should finish that by saying both Odom and Pittman over inflated their teams abilities then and again this season with Pittman thinking he had a 9+ win team giddy about his defensive line being so dominant never thinking oh fuq my O line is hot garbage.
That being said this is clearly turning into a retirement gig for coaches. We aren't a serious university about football. Arkansas football is a place for coaches to go to get free money until they are fired but who cares if BMFP can breathe some life into this shit before he's done coaching then so be it. One thing about it..the fans don't give a fuck anymore they'll turn in a hurry if the product on the field is shit. Don't matter if it's BP or Urban Meyer or Bill Walsh...fuck around and you'll get people swearing they are done.
With kids today I don't think they see Petrino the same way we older fellers do. The quarterbacks almost certainly know about him but the other offensive dudes may not. He doesn't have that kind of clout and never really was a super good recruiter. He doesn't even want to recruit probably. He's going to take what he's given to work with and try to jam it up some asses in the next few years before he's done.
Bring in Chris Gragg as the portal recruiter. He's the WR coach at Har-Ber.
Quote from: Papa Pigeritus on Nov 29, 2023, 06:13 AMSam,
Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do something like this...
and totally redeem yourself.
Sammy Boy has found his
Dick Richard.
Agreed. A freshman next year would have been 5 or 6 when Petrino was last here. I don't think his name itself is the draw anymore, at least for now, it's what he can get out of the players he's given to work with.
So I guess we'll see how serious we are about this NIL set up.
https://twitter.com/PetrinoMistress/status/1729610279049183740?s=19
https://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1729848842881728849?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 07:17 AMhttps://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1729848842881728849?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Well, that's got some feels to it.
Damn, dawg :'(
Is it me or is the sun shining brighter thus morning?
Have on Bazzel and Nutt this morning on 103.7. Bazzel said to Nutt is it true that Petrino is the last coach to win 11 games here since Holtz.
Lolzzzzzzz. Nutt was choking on it this morning and I was there for it.
Kris Mitchell (FIU) to the portal.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 07:27 AMIs it me or is the sun shining brighter thus morning?
Have on Bazzel and Nutt this morning on 103.7. Bazzel said to Nutt is it true that Petrino is the last coach to win 11 games here since Holtz.
Lolzzzzzzz. Nutt was choking on it this morning and I was there for it.
Came here to post this. That whole interview was gold with Nutt. You can tell he is still bitter at Petrino's success after he left. Then they start with the Malzahn hire. The you only won 10 not 11 was the cherry on top.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 07:17 AMhttps://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1729848842881728849?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Damn
Damn, didn't think Baz would be the one to do that to Nutt lol
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 29, 2023, 07:34 AMCame here to post this. That whole interview was gold with Nutt. You can tell he is still bitter at Petrino's success after he left. Then they start with the Malzahn hire. The you only won 10 not 11 was the cherry on top.
It's going to be a great day.
Houston knows he will never get the kind of reception Petrino is, he will never come close.
Petrino is our prodigal son. Nutt the older angry brother.
Kill the fattest calf, put the purple robe back on our boy. BMFP was lost, now he's found.
It's a celebration bitches.
You don't have to like the guy personally to acknowledge he did a good job the first time around (although it was a little messy at the end), and he'd probably do a better job than any of the other candidates for 2024.
Wait a minute.....
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 07:29 AMKris Mitchell (FIU) to the portal.
That was the guy we couldn't cover
Right
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 07:17 AMhttps://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1729848842881728849?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Came to post this. I'd say that's as official as it gets (without the official press release)... and it hit me right in the feels. Wish 15 was still alive to see this day.
Just when I thought there was nothing that could draw me back and give me hope or hype for next year, they go and do this. Hot damn! Now to see how much control he has over the offense and staff. Do we get football assassin BFMP... or do we get neutered Bob Petrino.
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2023, 07:53 AMThat was the guy we couldn't cover
Right
Yes. Some dork at one of the recruiting sites has a half a million value on him.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 29, 2023, 07:57 AMYes. Some dork at one of the recruiting sites has a half a million value on him.
I'd rather prioritize large humans that can block and think and move and bend but don't break
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 07:54 AMNow to see how much control he has over the offense and staff. Do we get football assassin BFMP... or do we get neutered Bob Petrino.
Regardless, it's better than the alternative.
There sure won't be any goofy-dicking around with running 3 yard routes when you need 4 on 3rd down, or lining up in the shotgun when you need 2 inches to get the first down.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 07:38 AMDamn, didn't think Baz would be the one to do that to Nutt lol
Didn't Leatherface trash Baz back in the day?
Quote from: Guardrail on Nov 29, 2023, 08:01 AMRegardless, it's better than the alternative.
There sure won't be any goofy-dicking around with running 3 yard routes when you need 4 on 3rd down, or lining up in the shotgun when you need 2 inches to get the first down.
Eh let's not get too out there. How many times was Broderick Green stuffed in short yardage?
Petrino will be here a year then we'll blow it up and start over.
Listening to the radio this morning and you can tell that Chuck Barrett is pissy about the deal.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 08:16 AMListening to the radio this morning and you can tell that Chuck Barrett is pissy about the deal.
Fuck Chuck Barrett. He sucks.
How much does the university spend flying Chuck's ass back and forth from Florida?
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 29, 2023, 08:24 AMFuck Chuck Barrett. He sucks.
any feedback from the players on the BMFP hire?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 08:16 AMListening to the radio this morning and you can tell that Chuck Barrett is pissy about the deal.
I've heard Chuck Barrett many, many times on the radio. He's been talking about the Hogs forever. Why would he not like this move? Is it because he thinks Petrino should be shunned because of his misdeed? I don't agree with Chuck on this at all.
This is a good move. Petrino did a fine job at Arkansas. He succumbed to temptation. But, I am a man, and when I took a look at who Petrino took a shine to, I knew that I would also have been very tempted.
Once a man gets to be a certain age, those young and beautiful women can be dangerously tempting.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 29, 2023, 08:27 AMHow much does the university spend flying Chuck's ass back and forth from Florida?
Does he have a kid in Florida where he spends the night before games?
I really have to reevaluate my opinion of Pittman and Yuracheck on this deal.
First, this takes a lot of guts for Pittman. Whatever improvement there might be will be credited to BP and the fanbase will immediately be speculating that BP is gojng to replace Sam and trying to ease Sam out the door. Even if it is less than successful, the calls for Sam to be fired and for BP to replace him on at least an interim basis will begin in a hurry.
Secondly, Yuracheck has some big old balls to run this up the flagpole with the administration and then get them to buy off on it. In thinking about it, this almost had to be the plan at least since the decision was made to keep Pittman because it is literally the ONLY hire that would get the fanbase excited and people paying attention next year. He had to know this was what they were going to do when and gotten the okay on it at least a couple weeks ago.
In the best of all worlds, it's successful, we win at least seven or eight next year and Pittman goes home to the lake next year or the year after a winner and responsible for healing one of the biggest wounds ever to Arkansas football and for righting some of the biggest wrongs. Bobby then takes over for his real swan song and we get four or five years of magic again.
Who knows if it works that way, but at least we have hope that it could.
Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 29, 2023, 08:36 AMI've heard Chuck Barrett many, many times on the radio. He's been talking about the Hogs forever. Why would he not like this move? Is it because he thinks Petrino should be shunned because of his misdeed? I don't agree with Chuck on this at all.
This is a good move. Petrino did a fine job at Arkansas. He succumbed to temptation. But, I am a man, and when I took a look at who Petrino took a shine to, I knew that I would also have been very tempted.
Once a man gets to be a certain age, those young and beautiful women can be dangerously tempting.
Well, Petrino's the kind of guy that won't suffer fools. Our media never liked him. Some simple arithmetic and yeah, make of that what you will.
Quote from: joebobhog on Nov 29, 2023, 08:35 AMany feedback from the players on the BMFP hire?
Andrew Armstrong seemed excited. But then again, what WR wouldn't be for the chance to play in that offense?
For someone who was supposedly such a miserable prick to everyone who worked under him, he sure does have a shit ton of former players who are excited as hell to have him back. Haven't seen one yet who was against it or had anything negative to say. Even DJ Williams seems to have come around.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 08:39 AMAndrew Armstrong seemed excited. But then again, what WR wouldn't be for the chance to play in that offense?
For someone who was supposedly such a miserable prick to everyone who worked under him, he sure does have a shit ton of former players who are excited as hell to have him back. Haven't seen one yet who was against it or had anything negative to say. Even DJ Williams seems to have come around.
Fucking Jake Bequette said something positive for once. It shut his ass up.
Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 29, 2023, 08:36 AMI've heard Chuck Barrett many, many times on the radio. He's been talking about the Hogs forever. Why would he not like this move? Is it because he thinks Petrino should be shunned because of his misdeed? I don't agree with Chuck on this at all.
This is a good move. Petrino did a fine job at Arkansas. He succumbed to temptation. But, I am a man, and when I took a look at who Petrino took a shine to, I knew that I would also have been very tempted.
Once a man gets to be a certain age, those young and beautiful women can be dangerously tempting.
I might have been a little hasty. In listening to him, he is now defending Petrino a little. I think with the media, even with guys who think good things will happen, there is gong to be a little defensiveness because they have spent the last decade telling people to get over BP because he was gone and never coming back.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 08:38 AMI really have to reevaluate my opinion of Pittman and Yuracheck on this deal.
First, this takes a lot of guts for Pittman. Whatever improvement there might be will be credited to BP and the fanbase will immediately be speculating that BP is gojng to replace Sam and trying to ease Sam out the door. Even if it is less than successful, the calls for Sam to be fired and for BP to replace him on at least an interim basis will begin in a hurry.
Secondly, Yuracheck has some big old balls to run this up the flagpole with the administration and then get them to buy off on it. In thinking about it, this almost had to be the plan at least since the decision was made to keep Pittman because it is literally the ONLY hire that would get the fanbase excited and people paying attention next year. He had to know this was what they were going to do when and gotten the okay on it at least a couple weeks ago.
In the best of all worlds, it's successful, we win at least seven or eight next year and Pittman goes home to the lake next year or the year after a winner and responsible for healing one of the biggest wounds ever to Arkansas football and for righting some of the biggest wrongs. Bobby then takes over for his real swan song and we get four or five years of magic again.
Who knows if it works that way, but at least we have hope that it could.
If nothing else it shows us that Sam is willing to put his ego aside for the good of the program, for all the reasons you outlined above.
That's what was always so frustrating about Nutt. He had a lot of the tools to be a great coach. The two biggest ones he lacked were organizational skills and humility.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 07:27 AMIs it me or is the sun shining brighter thus morning?
Have on Bazzel and Nutt this morning on 103.7. Bazzel said to Nutt is it true that Petrino is the last coach to win 11 games here since Holtz.
Lolzzzzzzz. Nutt was choking on it this morning and I was there for it.
Meanwhile Ferret Top was tweeting this shit before the Petrino news broke yesterday.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1729515447089848736?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 08:39 AMAndrew Armstrong seemed excited. But then again, what WR wouldn't be for the chance to play in that offense?
For someone who was supposedly such a miserable prick to everyone who worked under him, he sure does have a shit ton of former players who are excited as hell to have him back. Haven't seen one yet who was against it or had anything negative to say. Even DJ Williams seems to have come around.
Because being older they realize how good he was, how much he made them better, and how much fun they were actually having while winning.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 07:27 AMIs it me or is the sun shining brighter thus morning?
Been listening to ac/dc and getting my piss hot.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Nov 29, 2023, 08:43 AMMeanwhile Ferret Top was tweeting this shit before the Petrino news broke yesterday.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1729515447089848736?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
That bitch needs to be exiled from the state.
We should run the program like a cruise ship. Let Pittman do all the gladhanding and sit at the captain's table dinners and let Petrino make sure the ship doesn't run into things.
I was for Petrino getting fired for lying to his boss but I am also very much in favor of him in this job now. He has done his wandering in the desert and the boss he lied to is no longer here. I would not have cared about the affair if he had come clean about it immediately.
I like the idea of "redemption arc" that Pumpkin I believe mentioned. That was my first thought.
This is either going to work or we were going to be cleaning house at the end of next season anyway. I hope Pittman knows enough to turn him loose and lean on him a lot for advice in private.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Nov 29, 2023, 08:43 AMMeanwhile Ferret Top was tweeting this shit before the Petrino news broke yesterday.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1729515447089848736?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Fuck the Stadium Shoppe, it's a two-bit wannabe hog store with offbrand bullshit and lame ass Tommy BAHAMAa wares. THe only reason the ferret plugged that place is because he's related to one of the bitch owners. And what kind of dipshit spells 'shop' with an extra P and E?
AND THANK YOU TO HUNTER Y and ANYONE ELSE THAT MADE THIS HIRE HAPPEN. Finally, some genuine optimism to be had.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 07:17 AMhttps://x.com/coachbpetrino/status/1729848842881728849?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
The hell with the haters and doubters. I need to believe. 💯 in.
Quote from: joebobhog on Nov 29, 2023, 08:35 AMany feedback from the players on the BMFP hire?
I haven't heard anything on that yet.
I do know that Pittman was pissed that word got out Sunday that Marion and Faulkner turned us down within a couple hours of us sending an offer over. He felt it made him look bad. Supposedly an agent has been contacting Sam to express BMFP's interest in the job since Jimbo was fired at A&M. Sam was hesitant to move forward with mutual interest from BMFP for weeks (no idea why) until Sunday afternoon and into Monday.
Pittman is very aware off what is said about him publicly. He is very insecure. His wife is on twitter all day reading the negative things said about Pittman on twitter and let's him know about what is said. They are obsessed with that.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:09 AMThe hell with the haters and doubters. I need to believe. 💯 in.
LFG!!!!!!!
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:10 AMI haven't heard anything on that yet.
I do know that Pittman was pissed that word got out Sunday that Marion and Faulkner turned us down within a couple hours of us sending an offer over. He felt it made him look bad. Supposedly an agent has been contacting Sam to express BMFP's interest in the job since Jimbo was fired at A&M. Sam was hesitant to move forward with mutual interest from BMFP for weeks (no idea why) until Sunday afternoon and into Monday.
Pittman is very aware off what is said about him publicly. He is very insecure. His wife is on twitter all day reading the negative things said about Pittman on twitter and let's him know about what is said. They are obsessed with that.
So BMFP is 2/2 for having to lobby for a job at Arkansas.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:10 AMI haven't heard anything on that yet.
I do know that Pittman was pissed that word got out Sunday that Marion and Faulkner turned us down within a couple hours of us sending an offer over. He felt it made him look bad. Supposedly an agent has been contacting Sam to express BMFP's interest in the job since Jimbo was fired at A&M. Sam was hesitant to move forward with mutual interest from BMFP for weeks (no idea why) until Sunday afternoon and into Monday.
Pittman is very aware off what is said about him publicly. He is very insecure. His wife is on twitter all day reading the negative things said about Pittman on twitter and let's him know about what is said. They are obsessed with that.
After the good vibes settle down a bit, she should probably stay off for the rest of Sam's tenure then. It's going to be easy to forget he is head coach.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:12 AMSo BMFP is 2/2 for having to lobby for a job at Arkansas.
First thought I had too.
We whiffed on Jimmy Johnson, Tommy Tubberville, Butch Davis, Mike Norvell, and more.
Bobby's the one stone cold killer who actively sought the job...twice!
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 08:43 AMBecause being older they realize how good he was, how much he made them better, and how much fun they were actually having while winning.
Our HS baseball coach was a former Ole Miss Dlineman about 6-4, 250. He was a hard ass disciplinarian. We hated him during our playing days but years later everyone of us have respect for what he instilled in us, not only baseball but life skills. Sometimes it's hard to recognize it in the moment.
Pittman knows this is it for him. Either the season is a success or it isn't. If it isn't, there will be no excuses he can make that will save his job.
He has no reason NOT to just hand the reins of the offense over to Bobby. He's playing with house money. If Bobby succeeds, Pittman gets another year. If Bobby fails, Pittman is gone.
In all but title and the occasional camera shot on the sideline, we HAVE hired a new head coach.
I think we know why Sam was hesitant. He has to know after the first sign of trouble a majority of the fanbase is going to yell for him to be fired and for Petrino to be named head coach.
If Bobby ever had a desire to redeem himself, it's now. Not at L'ville #2, not at Springfield, not at College Station, but F'ville #2. If I was in his shoes and wanted to leave a legacy for my coaching son Inlaw and grandkids, it's now. He'll give 100% to get back on top.
His plan should be A couple of successful years at OC, slide into HC job, bring his son in law in as staff and win some games. He can be a hero.
I still think Long knew everything that happened from the beginning. He knew about the side piece. He knew she was on the bike. It was framed that Bobby lied to him. I don't think he lied, except to the fans, media, and his wife.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sam tried to hire him to replace Kendall, but it got squashed.
It'll be a fun ride.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 08:41 AMI might have been a little hasty. In listening to him, he is now defending Petrino a little.
As the Voice of the Razorbacks, I am sure he has no choice at this point.
Thanks again for those who put this place together. With this excitement we all have now, I'm glad woopig lives on and we have a place to discuss.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall the first time an O lineman is told to go to the whiteboard and diagram blocking assignments against particular defensive sets and stunts.
Quote from: aaron on Nov 29, 2023, 09:18 AMI still think Long knew everything that happened from the beginning. He knew about the side piece. He knew she was on the bike. It was framed that Bobby lied to him. I don't think he lied, except to the fans, media, and his wife.
If Long didn't know about it, he should have been fired for lack of institutional control (assuming what Bobby did was a fireable offense, which I do not believe). Long signed off on the hire knowing fully well that Dorrell didn't meet the posted qualifications, which was another reason I maintained that the lawsuit angle was bullshit.
The bottom line is that Long didn't like being second fiddle in his own band. The first chance he got to get rid of the star and move into first chair, he took it, without regard to how it would affect the health of the program long term. A rational AD would have found an appropriate punishment short of firing, taken the brief hit from a media possessing only short-term memory, and ultimately preserved our football program as opposed to killing it. And a normal SEC AD would have buried the shit and made sure it never saw the light of day.
Quote from: FNG on Nov 29, 2023, 09:26 AMI'd like to be a fly on the wall the first time an O lineman is told to go to the whiteboard and diagram blocking assignments against particular defensive sets and stunts.
Hell I'd like to be in the room the first time he asked Cody Kennedy to do it, assuming he's still employed once meetings start.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 09:27 AMIf Long didn't know about it, he should have been fired for lack of institutional control (assuming what Bobby did was a fireable offense, which I do not believe). Long signed off on the hire knowing fully well that Dorrell didn't meet the posted qualifications, which was another reason I maintained that the lawsuit angle was bullshit.
The bottom line is that Long didn't like being second fiddle in his own band. The first chance he got to get rid of the star and move into first chair, he took it, without regard to how it would affect the health of the program long term. A rational AD would have found an appropriate punishment short of firing, taken the brief hit from a media possessing only short-term memory, and ultimately preserved our football program as opposed to killing it. And a normal SEC AD would have buried the shit and made sure it never saw the light of day.
I took a lot of shit around here and elsewhere at the time for calling Long a dishonest attention whoring snake. Time has proven that take to be true and vindicated me.
He has to be at the game tonight, right?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2023, 09:27 AMIf Long didn't know about it, he should have been fired for lack of institutional control (assuming what Bobby did was a fireable offense, which I do not believe). Long signed off on the hire knowing fully well that Dorrell didn't meet the posted qualifications, which was another reason I maintained that the lawsuit angle was bullshit.
The bottom line is that Long didn't like being second fiddle in his own band. The first chance he got to get rid of the star and move into first chair, he took it, without regard to how it would affect the health of the program long term. A rational AD would have found an appropriate punishment short of firing, taken the brief hit from a media possessing only short-term memory, and ultimately preserved our football program as opposed to killing it. And a normal SEC AD would have buried the shit and made sure it never saw the light of day.
This is it. Long thought HE was responsible for our success and hated that Petrino was getting the credit.... For coaching the football program. Long was such a petty bitch.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:10 AMI haven't heard anything on that yet.
I do know that Pittman was pissed that word got out Sunday that Marion and Faulkner turned us down within a couple hours of us sending an offer over. He felt it made him look bad. Supposedly an agent has been contacting Sam to express BMFP's interest in the job since Jimbo was fired at A&M. Sam was hesitant to move forward with mutual interest from BMFP for weeks (no idea why) until Sunday afternoon and into Monday.
Pittman is very aware off what is said about him publicly. He is very insecure. His wife is on twitter all day reading the negative things said about Pittman on twitter and let's him know about what is said. They are obsessed with that.
That's interesting to know. I kept having this suspicion that talks have been in with Petrino since Jimbo was fired. Perhaps that is not the case, and I'm giving Sam and Yuri too much credit.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 09:31 AMThat's interesting to know. I kept having this suspicion that talks have been in with Petrino since Jimbo was fired. Perhaps that is not the case, and I'm giving Sam and Yuri too much credit.
One of the secrets to success in life is that when you luck into good results, make it look like you meant to do it. Let's see if they are smart enough run with it.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 09:31 AMThat's interesting to know. I kept having this suspicion that talks have been in with Petrino since Jimbo was fired. Perhaps that is not the case, and I'm giving Sam and Yuri too much credit.
Was the hire even Pittman's choice? Doesn't matter, but I wonder.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 29, 2023, 09:16 AMPittman knows this is it for him. Either the season is a success or it isn't. If it isn't, there will be no excuses he can make that will save his job.
He has no reason NOT to just hand the reins of the offense over to Bobby. He's playing with house money. If Bobby succeeds, Pittman gets another year. If Bobby fails, Pittman is gone.
In all but title and the occasional camera shot on the sideline, we HAVE hired a new head coach.
The thought crossed my mind this morning that there has been no official word from the University.
Bobby's tweet doesn't say coordinator...
Just sayin
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 09:34 AMWas the hire even Pittman's choice? Doesn't matter, but I wonder.
maybe not.
but if it was really money that kept him from getting canned after the miss st. and auburn debacles, then what leverage did anyone have to make him do anything?
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:30 AMI took a lot of shit around here and elsewhere at the time for calling Long a dishonest attention whoring snake. Time has proven that take to be true and vindicated me.
There is a common theme when reading your posts. I hereby anoint you the "King of I Told You So."
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Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 29, 2023, 09:51 AMThere is a common theme when reading your posts. I hereby anoint you the "King of I Told You So."
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Yeah, well mother fucker, I fucking did. Maybe, it's just because I'm smarter than you. I don't know. I don't make the rules.
Will his style work in this new era of NIL and easy transfers? We saw how it worked out in the pros with players making more money than him not taking kindly to a disparaging word thrown their way. Will college kids take to that type of coaching now that they see how much $$ they're worth at other schools? This is the one thing that has me hitting the pause on seeing BP (going to have to earn the MF back) slide into the HC chair.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:56 AMYeah, well mother fucker, I fucking did. Maybe, it's just because I'm smarter than you. I don't know. I don't make the rules.
Or maybe it's because you have an opinion on every fucking thing posted on this board, usually in a self righteous, condescending manner. Due to the sheer number of topics you have graced us with your know it all, patronizing repartee, you're bound to be right once in a while. You know, broken clock and all.
Dudes that want to get to the League are going to want to play somewhere where they can get developed. For offensive players, Bobby does that as well as anybody.
Now that BMFP is coming here do some of the guys that jumped into the portal come out or just good riddance to them
You know, while we are talking redemption Mel Tucker was a DC through his development
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 29, 2023, 10:17 AMOr maybe it's because you have an opinion on every fucking thing posted on this board, usually in a self righteous, condescending manner. Due to the sheer number of topics you have graced us with your know it all, patronizing repartee, you're bound to be right once in a while. You know, broken clock and all.
One of the secrets to success in life is that when you luck into good results, make it look like you meant to do it.
Lol Travis Williams was a linebacker for the Atlanta Falcons... in 2007. Might be the ultimate "What do his former players think of him" scenario.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 29, 2023, 10:32 AMOne of the secrets to success in life is that when you luck into good results, make it look like you meant to do it.
so true, put that in the quote thread and make up a famous guy saying it
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C of 94 is Pittman's hunting buddy. At least that's what was said.
We should clean up on upper classmen with 1-2 years of eligibility in the portal. This changes things for the better on getting transfers in.
QuoteC of 94 is Pittman's hunting buddy. At least that's what was said.
I'll bet Sam hunts not far from the road.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Nov 29, 2023, 10:17 AMOr maybe it's because you have an opinion on every fucking thing posted on this board, usually in a self righteous, condescending manner. Due to the sheer number of topics you have graced us with your know it all, patronizing repartee, you're bound to be right once in a while. You know, broken clock and all.
I don't know it all, just more than you.
Quote from: egregious on Nov 29, 2023, 10:24 AMYou know, while we are talking redemption Mel Tucker was a DC through his development
if nothing else, he's a great db coach and recruiter.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 29, 2023, 10:38 AMC of 94 is Pittman's hunting buddy. At least that's what was said.
That may be but seems he is swapping scoops with a guy from West Fork. To be an insider from West Fork just means you spring for a Hootens at the EZ mart every year.
Quote from: egregious on Nov 29, 2023, 10:35 AMso true, put that in the quote thread and make up a famous guy saying it
Specifically: Bill Clinton
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 29, 2023, 10:51 AMThat may be but seems he is swapping scoops with a guy from West Fork. To be an insider from West Fork just means you spring for a Hootens at the EZ mart every year.
The guy doesn't really seem like an insider to me, he's just sharing some details after the fact instead of the "I was right but things changed" crowd.
Not buying smokescreen or any of that shit. I'm sure we reached out to others first.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 29, 2023, 10:59 AMNot buying smokescreen or any of that shit. I'm sure we reached out to others first.
Sam doesn't exactly seem like the 4D chess guy. I'll say it again, if the story that Bobby was the guy the whole time is true then Sam would have answered Biddy on Friday with, "We're announcing the new OC on Sunday, ask again then." It wouldn't have been "I don't know"
When will the official announcement come from the UA?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 11:02 AMSam doesn't exactly seem like the 4D chess guy. I'll say it again, if the story that Bobby was the guy the whole time is true then Sam would have answered Biddy on Friday with, "We're announcing the new OC on Sunday, ask again then." It wouldn't have been "I don't know"
Maybe that would have been the answer if it came from anyone other than Biddy. Sam looked like he had his answer in the chamber as soon as Biddy opened his mouth.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 29, 2023, 11:02 AMSam doesn't exactly seem like the 4D chess guy. I'll say it again, if the story that Bobby was the guy the whole time is true then Sam would have answered Biddy on Friday with, "We're announcing the new OC on Sunday, ask again then." It wouldn't have been "I don't know"
petrino wasn't officially let go until yesterday, so pittman couldn't have said something even if he had a feeling bp was getting canned. a lot of aggie fans thought he'd be retained.
we won't know what really happened for probably another couple of years and then mike irwin will let everyone know he was told something.
Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 29, 2023, 11:03 AMWhen will the official announcement come from the UA?
Yeah, the delay has me a bit nervous.
Since We Are Arkansas, I feel we might end up like teenagers that have finally escaped Leatherface, run through the woods, find a highway and wave an approaching car down...only to find Michael Myers at the wheel.
I think they had it worked out for a little bit. That is what triggered the NIL donations and stuff. This also would have taken pretty substantial vetting beforehand. I don't even think they would have entertained talking to him very much without first taking it up through the chain to make sure they could hire him. And I also think he was coming regardless of what happened at A&M.
I don't think it matters who the coach is. You have to have the hosses to win. If we get them, look out. However, that being said, some guys just can't coach.
This might be the best scenario we could hope for. We get teh Petrion, and we also get to keep classic uniforms.
Petrino's main shortcoming here to me was his love of CFL type uniforms.
Officially official
https://twitter.com/RazorbackFB/status/1729916892243226677?t=5GxJsORv0zlH2Wg3x-diRw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/RazorbackFB/status/1729916892243226677?t=5GxJsORv0zlH2Wg3x-diRw&s=19)
Would have been epic to make a surprise announcement 5 minutes before tipoff.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2023, 11:37 AMOfficially official
https://twitter.com/RazorbackFB/status/1729916892243226677?t=5GxJsORv0zlH2Wg3x-diRw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/RazorbackFB/status/1729916892243226677?t=5GxJsORv0zlH2Wg3x-diRw&s=19)
Now beat Dook with BMFP and Nolan sitting front row. We'll win the sports internet for the week.
reportedly a 3 year deal at $1.35 million per.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2023, 11:50 AMreportedly a 3 year deal at $1.35 million per.
A bargain.
This shit probably won't work, but for once the world can suck it. :><:
Doubt guiton sticks
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 29, 2023, 12:04 PMDoubt guiton sticks
I wonder if he's invited. The WR coach whose receivers couldn't separate.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2023, 11:50 AMreportedly a 3 year deal at $1.35 million per.
Especially knowing Hunter will give him a ridiculous deal after an okay year one.
Quote from: SnowManSlayer on Nov 29, 2023, 12:00 PMThis shit probably won't work, but for once the world can suck it. :><:
Unless we add a bunch of talent on offense I can't see it going particularly well. It does make things interesting though.
Rome trashing petrino.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Nov 29, 2023, 12:16 PMUnless we add a bunch of talent on offense I can't see it going particularly well. It does make things interesting though.
I think we HAVE talent on offense. I think they just haven't been coached or been used in an offense where they can show that talent. If nothing BP is a master at figuring that shit out.
Quote from: aaron on Nov 29, 2023, 12:18 PMRome trashing petrino.
Just like old times. Us against the world.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 29, 2023, 12:22 PMJust like old times. Us against the world.
He's an asshole, but he's OUR asshole!
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Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 29, 2023, 11:41 AMNow beat Dook with BMFP and Nolan sitting front row. We'll win the sports internet for the week.
Did Prime stop breathing?
Quote from: aaron on Nov 29, 2023, 12:18 PMRome trashing petrino.
Did Rome trash him when he went to A&M?
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 12:28 PMHe's an asshole, but he's OUR asshole!
Rather an asshole than a pussy.
Wait, that doesn't sound good. Does it?
Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 29, 2023, 12:37 PMRather an asshole than a pussy.
Wait, that doesn't sound good. Does it?
To each his own
Quote from: aaron on Nov 29, 2023, 12:18 PMRome trashing petrino.
https://media.tenor.com/rJEC8eExzL4AAAAd/jim-rome-jim-everett.gif
If a person can watch this video and not come away liking Bobby, then fuck that person.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2023, 11:10 AMpetrino wasn't officially let go until yesterday, so pittman couldn't have said something even if he had a feeling bp was getting canned. a lot of aggie fans thought he'd be retained.
we won't know what really happened for probably another couple of years and then mike irwin will let everyone know he was told something.
So none of this is true.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 29, 2023, 12:52 PMSo none of this is true.
No, Mike is definitely coming back in two years to pretend he had the scoop all along but was asked to keep it under wraps.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 29, 2023, 12:52 PMSo none of this is true.
i don't know what is true as far as how this went down. what i pointed out was pittman couldn't say anything publicly in his last presser about hiring an oc because if petrino was his choice, he wasn't available until he was let go yesterday.
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2023, 01:03 PMi don't know what is true as far as how this went down. what i pointed out was pittman couldn't say anything publicly in his last presser about hiring an oc because if petrino was his choice, he wasn't available until he was let go yesterday.
Very good point.
For all we know this deal was done when Pittman's retention was announced.
So Garrick McGee is like a WR coach at Louisville now days I think.
I figure Guiton and Smith will be interviewed and considered for retaining. Surely Kennedy is fixing to "pursue other opportunities"...oh isn't Fountain a former OL coach? Maybe the Baylor OL coach gets a call...
The TE coach I got nothing.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2023, 01:10 PMVery good point.
For all we know this deal was done when Pittman's retention was announced.
I've heard rumor that Petrino was vetted before Enos was canned... and that Enos was already on the block in Sept (which we all already knew). No idea how true that is.
I will say though, that given the timing of the ArkansasEdge announcement, and the BP announcement, and how long it probably took to run BP up the flagpole and get buy in... that that above rumor could have a little merit.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39006753/new-arkansas-oc-bobby-petrino-wants-make-right-messy-exit
Quote from: vegashog on Nov 29, 2023, 01:03 PMi don't know what is true as far as how this went down. what i pointed out was pittman couldn't say anything publicly in his last presser about hiring an oc because if petrino was his choice, he wasn't available until he was let go yesterday.
I guess it's just how you so quickly state your opinions as facts as if you have some sort of inside knowledge. And you also do it an a sanctimonious and condescending way. It's nice to know that your posts are "I was right but things change" posts.
The really entertaining commentary is over on Facebook with all the Karen's talking about what a new low this is to bring back this man of low moral character. He had sex once or twice. Jesus just get over it.
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2023, 02:13 PMThe really entertaining commentary is over on Facebook with all the Karen's talking about what a new low this is to bring back this man of low moral character. He had sex once or twice. Jesus just get over it.
Razorback fans are just being good Baptists. Forgiveness. Redemption. Second chances. All that.
That's kind of Jesus's thing, so I think he is okay with this rehire.
And since he clearly likes smiting us, this just sets that up nicely if he changes his mind.
https://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1729953631569363330?t=no7_6IlWrBEM1biZxJr5UA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1729953631569363330?t=no7_6IlWrBEM1biZxJr5UA&s=19)
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2023, 02:13 PMThe really entertaining commentary is over on Facebook with all the Karen's talking about what a new low this is to bring back this man of low moral character. He had sex once or twice. Jesus just get over it.
Silly Karen's. All football coaches with penises are of low moral character. Well, the ones that win are.
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2023, 02:13 PMThe really entertaining commentary is over on Facebook with all the Karen's talking about what a new low this is to bring back this man of low moral character. He had sex once or twice. Jesus just get over it.
I remember someone had the sig line that went something like: "Most Hog fans are happy with their $14,000/year job, a good Christian man coaching the Hogs, and Hee Haw on Saturday nights."
Lot of sanctimony going on everywhere except here.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 29, 2023, 02:01 PMhttps://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39006753/new-arkansas-oc-bobby-petrino-wants-make-right-messy-exit
"I've always been a Razorback fan and rooted for them and know how hard this last season has been for all of them, so when Coach Pittman had the idea of me coming back, I was immediately interested. Like I said, it was almost a dream."
So, per Bobby P, it was Pittman's idea. IF that is true, then that is a big fat gold star in Pittman's book as far as I'm concerned. Even if it doesn't work... that took balls, and shows that he is, in fact, doing things to make the program better and win games. IF it was actually Sam that initiated this, that buys him a grace period in my book and my hat is off to him.
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 03:18 PM"I've always been a Razorback fan and rooted for them and know how hard this last season has been for all of them, so when Coach Pittman had the idea of me coming back, I was immediately interested. Like I said, it was almost a dream."
So, per Bobby P, it was Pittman's idea. IF that is true, then that is a big fat gold star in Pittman's book as far as I'm concerned. Even if it doesn't work... that took balls, and shows that he is, in fact, doing things to make the program better and win games. IF it was actually Sam that initiated this, that buys him a grace period in my book and my hat is off to him.
I don't see this as a Nutt/Mal-a-zon thing at all. The pressure on Sam lately was turned off overnight. I'm sure even if it wasn't Sam's idea, he's happy to have him
Quote from: passed on Nov 29, 2023, 03:18 PM"I've always been a Razorback fan and rooted for them and know how hard this last season has been for all of them, so when Coach Pittman had the idea of me coming back, I was immediately interested. Like I said, it was almost a dream."
So, per Bobby P, it was Pittman's idea. IF that is true, then that is a big fat gold star in Pittman's book as far as I'm concerned. Even if it doesn't work... that took balls, and shows that he is, in fact, doing things to make the program better and win games. IF it was actually Sam that initiated this, that buys him a grace period in my book and my hat is off to him.
I hope that's the way it worked and if it was, I've definitely been too hard on Sam and misjudged him. I'd apologize to him in person if I had ever said it anywhere but here and if I thought he cared.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 04:03 PMI hope that's the way it worked and if it was, I've definitely been too hard on Sam and misjudged him. I'd apologize to him in person if I had ever said it anywhere but here and if I thought he cared.
I like Sam, as a guy. So I hope it is true too... because it tells me that it isn't an ego thing for him and he really does want to build a winning program, whatever it takes. That, to me, is a good HC mentality.
Count me in as one who owes Sam an apology. I accused him of being lazy and pathetic, and not leading the program as it needed to be led.
For him to then go out and get the one guy he knows Arkansas fans love maybe more than him, says a lot about him as a person, and a leader, and how much he really does want to turn the program around for good.
That's pretty damned refreshing after having a couple of coaches who wouldn't dare put someone on staff who's football I.Q. is higher than theirs.
Good job, Coach Pittman. I shall refrain from commenting further on your cup size, and I apologize for my critique which was at times too harsh.
I know that some want Petrino as the HC, but as long as Sam gives him full control of the offense, in ALL PHASES, It might be better with Sam as the HC and Petrino as the OC.
Petrino hates doing many of the 'non-offense' things that are required of a HC. Let Sam recruit, glad-hand and be 'nice'. Let Petrino do all phases of the offense including all play calls and calls as far as going for it and punting and such. Sam is horrible at those things. Give total offensive control to Petrino and be he can do the administrative things a HC does and that are also very important to do right. Let them each do their thing and it could be better than having Petrino as the HC.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 29, 2023, 02:47 PMhttps://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1729953631569363330?t=no7_6IlWrBEM1biZxJr5UA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1729953631569363330?t=no7_6IlWrBEM1biZxJr5UA&s=19)
The hero we need, but not the one we deserve.
I love the move and certainly feel like Sam is on board with the decision to bring back Bobby P. As I've already said I think this was in the back of some minds as far back as Bobby damn near embarrassing us a year or so ago. I don't apologize for a god damn thing though. This whole thing is a money grab and we are all falling for it per usual but we don't care because deep down we know there is a shot in the dark that BMFP is going to help get this turd polished up for a few years. Beyond Bobby I have the same loss of confidence in this present staff's ability to judge/develop talent much less recruit it.
Imagine you Rip Van Winkled the last 12 years. Come out of a coma today and somebody has to tell you about what you slept through.
In a lot of ways it feels like that anyway.
Bobby Petrino coming back to coach the Hogs again has me convinced this is all a simulation. No way it's not a computer program and somebody in the ether feels sorry for us and changed the university rules with a keystroke.
We are definitely being fucked with.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 06:29 PMImagine you Rip Van Winkled the last 12 years. Come out of a coma today and somebody has to tell you about what you slept through.
In a lot of ways it feels like that anyway.
Bobby Petrino coming back to coach the Hogs again has me convinced this is all a simulation. No way it's not a computer program and somebody in the ether feels sorry for us and changed the university rules with a keystroke.
We are definitely being fucked with.
simulation theory is proven correct by the Double Slit experiment likening it to when in a video game the far off stuff doesn't exist until you get closer and it must show more detail.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 06:29 PMImagine you Rip Van Winkled the last 12 years. Come out of a coma today and somebody has to tell you about what you slept through.
In a lot of ways it feels like that anyway.
Bobby Petrino coming back to coach the Hogs again has me convinced this is all a simulation. No way it's not a computer program and somebody in the ether feels sorry for us and changed the university rules with a keystroke.
We are definitely being fucked with.
I mostly Pappy Van Winkle'd the last 12 years.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 29, 2023, 06:02 PMI know that some want Petrino as the HC, but as long as Sam gives him full control of the offense, in ALL PHASES, It might be better with Sam as the HC and Petrino as the OC.
Petrino hates doing many of the 'non-offense' things that are required of a HC. Let Sam recruit, glad-hand and be 'nice'. Let Petrino do all phases of the offense including all play calls and calls as far as going for it and punting and such. Sam is horrible at those things. Give total offensive control to Petrino and be he can do the administrative things a HC does and that are also very important to do right. Let them each do their thing and it could be better than having Petrino as the HC.
And Petrino won't have to spend any time on the defense, or Willie Robinson us.
Quote from: red death on Nov 29, 2023, 06:29 PMImagine you Rip Van Winkled the last 12 years. Come out of a coma today and somebody has to tell you about what you slept through.
In a lot of ways it feels like that anyway.
Bobby Petrino coming back to coach the Hogs again has me convinced this is all a simulation. No way it's not a computer program and somebody in the ether feels sorry for us and changed the university rules with a keystroke.
We are definitely being fucked with.
Dear God what I'd give to have actually slept through this debacle.
And if it does get worse, well I figure the impending stroke will take care of me for the next 12.
The one thing about Pittman is he lets his coordinators run their system. Yes, he wants to run the ball. If BP completely runs the offense, Sam will be more than happy with the run game, and fans will be happy witb the whole off3nse.
Has Mr Rick B commented on these developments? Is he the donor matching the first mil on Arkansas edge?
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 29, 2023, 07:25 PMHas Mr Rick B commented on these developments? Is he the donor matching the first mil on Arkansas edge?
5 mins late. Just passed him.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 29, 2023, 06:02 PMI know that some want Petrino as the HC, but as long as Sam gives him full control of the offense, in ALL PHASES, It might be better with Sam as the HC and Petrino as the OC.
Petrino hates doing many of the 'non-offense' things that are required of a HC. Let Sam recruit, glad-hand and be 'nice'. Let Petrino do all phases of the offense including all play calls and calls as far as going for it and punting and such. Sam is horrible at those things. Give total offensive control to Petrino and be he can do the administrative things a HC does and that are also very important to do right. Let them each do their thing and it could be better than having Petrino as the HC.
This is my hope. Not sure it will happen... but I hope it will.
Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 29, 2023, 07:25 PMIs he the donor matching the first mil on Arkansas edge?
I figured that was HTL
https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3427617
They're (many of them) just now figuring out that Bobby was still stuck with Jimbo's offense for the majority of the season.
Quote from: Bogey7 on Nov 29, 2023, 07:20 PMThe one thing about Pittman is he lets his coordinators run their system. Yes, he wants to run the ball. If BP completely runs the offense, Sam will be more than happy with the run game, and fans will be happy witb the whole off3nse.
Yeah our running game was as fun to watch as our passing attack. Knile Davis was my favorite player on that 2010 team.
lol...Sam already looks nervous while BMFP was yucking it up and all smiles.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:14 PMlol...Sam already looks nervous while BMFP was yucking it up and all smiles.
Yeah Sam looked like he missed his party barge.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:14 PMlol...Sam already looks nervous while BMFP was yucking it up and all smiles.
And when did we ever see THAT version of The Petrion?
That body language was pretty telling. If you just saw those guys and didn't know any better, which one would you say was the head man and which one was the assistant?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 29, 2023, 09:26 PMAnd when did we ever see THAT version of The Petrion?
2011. He didn't even buy a new hoodie, just drug one out from the closet.
It's gotta dig in extra deep like that Hootie was never asked to "come back".
In addition to bringing an improved offensive scheme, Sam now has another experienced head coach to consult. I don't think you can overlook the impact of Odom's absence on the sidelines this year in the organization and decision making.
This may be the perfect OC hire given the current state of the program.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 29, 2023, 09:34 PM2011. He didn't even buy a new hoodie, just drug one out from the closet.
I was talking about the smiling part.
Quote from: snoots on Nov 29, 2023, 10:13 PMIn addition to bringing an improved offensive scheme, Sam now has another experienced head coach to consult. I don't think you can overlook the impact of Odom's absence on the sidelines this year in the organization and decision making.
This may be the perfect OC hire given the current state of the program.
It is a good move. I see no downside. Ignore those who say that Petrino must be shunned for all time. It's cruelty to punish him for life.
Petrino served his punishment. Time to move on from that old issue IMHO.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:31 PMThat body language was pretty telling. If you just saw those guys and didn't know any better, which one would you say was the head man and which one was the assistant?
That's all well and good, but there is going to be nearly as much pressure on him to get this offense right as there is on Tits McGhee to win games. Everybody is going to be expecting the type of offense we had when he was the HC and our fans still have him on a pedestal as an offensive genius. It remains to be seen if he can turn these slapdicks into studs.
Quote from: animal on Nov 29, 2023, 09:58 PMIt's gotta dig in extra deep like that Hootie was never asked to "come back".
I'm sure we could find a spot for him in janitorial services.
So if normal patterns hold, we should hear this morning about some horrible and program killing news.
We aren't allowed days like yesterday without repercussions.
Quote from: snoots on Nov 29, 2023, 10:13 PMIn addition to bringing an improved offensive scheme, Sam now has another experienced head coach to consult. I don't think you can overlook the impact of Odom's absence on the sidelines this year in the organization and decision making.
This may be the perfect OC hire given the current state of the program.
All of this.
Pittman purportedly relied heavily on Odom for program management and in-game situational coaching, and Odom wasn't even a good head coach. It's no wonder Pittman's in-game decisions were horrendous this year since he finally had to figure out how to ride his bike without training wheels.
Now he gets an experienced former head coach with an incredibly high level of P5 success to lean on.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 30, 2023, 01:52 AMThat's all well and good, but there is going to be nearly as much pressure on him to get this offense right as there is on Tits McGhee to win games. Everybody is going to be expecting the type of offense we had when he was the HC and our fans still have him on a pedestal as an offensive genius. It remains to be seen if he can turn these slapdicks into studs.
He is an offensive genius and if the slapdicks don't tuen into studs, we know where the fault lies. Petrino will get the most out of whatever players he has on hand.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 30, 2023, 05:50 AMSo if normal patterns hold, we should hear this morning about some horrible and program killing news.
We aren't allowed days like yesterday without repercussions.
Oh man, don't be beetlejuicing this early in the morning.
$10 says Petrino went to the football building to watch film after leaving BWA last night.
In fairness to Pittman there are a good many head coaches that their undoing was coordinators moving on and they are left in the wilds to figure the shit out on their own. Having a former head coach there to lean on is going to be an enormous help especially when it comes to how to organize the entire program which I'm guessing needs some attention to detail. Bobby has already said he will install the offense and even managed to dig in that it WILL be a 100% by the first game.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 29, 2023, 09:31 PMThat body language was pretty telling. If you just saw those guys and didn't know any better, which one would you say was the head man and which one was the assistant?
In what video? I can't seem to find one on the YouTubes. Got a link or was it live?
Quote from: passed on Nov 30, 2023, 06:39 AMIn what video? I can't seem to find one on the YouTubes. Got a link or was it live?
only one I saw was a live shot of Sam and Bobby sitting next to each other. Sam was shifted off to the side and looking off into space...Bobby was all smiles and talking to people. Once Sam realized the camera was on him he did the all smiles thing.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 30, 2023, 06:27 AM$10 says Petrino went to the football building to watch film after leaving BWA last night.
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Quote from: passed on Nov 30, 2023, 06:39 AMIn what video? I can't seem to find one on the YouTubes. Got a link or was it live?
It was live during the game.
Interview on Hogs+... Bobby P is sticking to the Pittman called him up and wanted him here story. So, kudos to Pittman.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 30, 2023, 07:06 AMIt was live during the game.
Damn. Knew I should have watched live... I decided to record it and watch later if we won. I didn't want to jinx it.
Wrong thread
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 30, 2023, 05:50 AMSo if normal patterns hold, we should hear this morning about some horrible and program killing news.
We aren't allowed days like yesterday without repercussions.
Well, Kennedy is still employed...
Quote from: Hizog on Nov 30, 2023, 07:33 AMWell, Kennedy is still employed...
Sam is the new OL coach.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Nov 30, 2023, 08:18 AMSam is the new OL coach.
Kennedy is now in charge of snacks and juice boxes.
Quote from: mde114 on Nov 30, 2023, 08:21 AMKennedy is now in charge of snacks and juice boxes.
Don't think we should be handing out beef ribs and pepperoni pizzas at halftime.
Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 30, 2023, 01:57 AMI'm sure we could find a spot for him in janitorial services.
He's unqualified.
Nutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.
Quote from: animal on Nov 30, 2023, 06:31 AMIn fairness to Pittman there are a good many head coaches that their undoing was coordinators moving on and they are left in the wilds to figure the shit out on their own. Having a former head coach there to lean on is going to be an enormous help especially when it comes to how to organize the entire program which I'm guessing needs some attention to detail. Bobby has already said he will install the offense and even managed to dig in that it WILL be a 100% by the first game.
I hope he's not referencing our shitty o talent and planning only six plays.
Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 29, 2023, 10:54 PMIt is a good move. I see no downside. Ignore those who say that Petrino must be shunned for all time. It's cruelty to punish him for life.
Petrino served his punishment. Time to move on from that old issue IMHO.
We don't keep most murderers in prison 14 years. Time to forgive and move on. He paid a far bigger price than fucking perverts like Freeze. Let's win some football.
If Sam really wants to win me back let Petrino have a segment on the coaches show diagramming and explaining his beautiful offensive mind.
God I miss watching him teach offense. That's how you know you're dealing with a genus.
Is there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.
Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.
Thoughts?
Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 30, 2023, 09:52 AMIs there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.
Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.
Thoughts?
Like most everyone here, I don't know Pittman personally. But I think he is breathing a sigh of relief. The monkey is off his back, at least for the next couple of years. In fact, he may be happier about this hire than we are. As he should be.
https://x.com/HogsPlus/status/1730231559830077626?
This confirms my thinking, at least in my own mind. If Pittman initiated the conversation about hiring him, he understands he needed him.
Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 30, 2023, 10:18 AMhttps://x.com/HogsPlus/status/1730231559830077626?
This confirms my thinking, at least in my own mind. If Pittman initiated the conversation about hiring him, he understands he needed him.
It's so great to hear him talk again. I've spent a decade avoiding everything I could about him because I was so frustrated with how it all went down.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 09:18 AMNutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.
The drop off from #3 to #4 is like the mariana trench, and the gap between #4 and #5 is not big at all.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 09:18 AMNutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.
By what metric? Winning percentage would put him 5th if you go back to Broyles. 8th if you include every coach that coached 2+ seasons.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Nov 30, 2023, 11:12 AMBy what metric? Winning percentage would put him 5th if you go back to Broyles. 8th if you include every coach that coached 2+ seasons.
Actually now that you say that I realize I forgot about Hatfield.
#1 Frank
#2 Holtz
#3 Petrino
#4 Hatfield
#5 Dale
#6 The rest
#X Chad at the bottom
Nutt over Hatfield.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 30, 2023, 11:37 AMActually now that you say that I realize I forgot about Hatfield.
#1 Frank
#2 Holtz
#3 Petrino
#4 Hatfield
#5 Dale
#6 The rest
#X Chad at the bottom
Chaggie only gets a dishonorable mention, not actually on the list
Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 30, 2023, 09:52 AMIs there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.
Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.
Thoughts?
If I'm not mistaken, Bobby is older than Sam by a few months.
Quote from: animal on Nov 30, 2023, 06:31 AMIn fairness to Pittman there are a good many head coaches that their undoing was coordinators moving on and they are left in the wilds to figure the shit out on their own. Having a former head coach there to lean on is going to be an enormous help especially when it comes to how to organize the entire program which I'm guessing needs some attention to detail. Bobby has already said he will install the offense and even managed to dig in that it WILL be a 100% by the first game.
Wudn't no 20% Neal
Quote from: red death on Nov 30, 2023, 09:31 AMIf Sam really wants to win me back let Petrino have a segment on the coaches show diagramming and explaining his beautiful offensive mind.
God I miss watching him teach offense. That's how you know you're dealing with a genus.
I second this. I loved watching the guy break down and explain plays. It was very informative while at the same time making me realize I knew even less about football than I realized. And I don't claim to grasp much more than the basics.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 11:48 AMNutt over Hatfield.
Not a chance.
Nutt would have found a way to go 7-4 against the same weak assed SWC that Hatfield faced.
"You'd love to see a Rice on your schedule Chuck."
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This is all you need to know.
I'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.
It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.
I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius. I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.
I hope it works.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PMI'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.
It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.
I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius. I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.
I hope it works.
Thank you for typing my exact thoughts.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2023, 02:23 PMNot a chance.
Nutt would have found a way to go 7-4 against the same weak assed SWC that Hatfield faced.
"You'd love to see a Rice on your schedule Chuck."
Nutt would play up and down to the competition. He would have been the same in the weak SWC, his SEC era, and today's tougher SEC era. He could coach, and he could both under and over achieve.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PMI'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.
It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.
I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius. I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.
I hope it works.
We need to put that on a billboard on I-49. Every. God. Damn. Word.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 30, 2023, 02:53 PMNutt would play up and down to the competition. He would have been the same in the week SWC, his SEC era, and today's tougher SEC era. He could coach, and he could both under and over achieve.
My point exactly. Put him at Georgia and he'd go 8-4, 9-3 until he ran out of Kirby's players. Put him at UCA, ASU, Pulaski Academy, or Eudora, same result.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2023, 02:54 PMWe need to put that on a billboard on I-49. Every. God. Damn. Word.
I order to avoid car wrecks and deaths, I would settle for a giant billboard in The Pit. Make every motherfucker read it before they enter the stadium.
The lawsuits angle was always stupid. It was a $50k a year job. If every applicant was found to be better qualified and therefore entitled to a year's salary (and that never would have happened), BP could have covered it with his salary through about May or June. They could have handled any threat or lawsuits by making him sign an indemnity agreement with the school.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 30, 2023, 03:02 PMThe lawsuits angle was always stupid. It was a $50k a year job. If every applicant was found to be better qualified and therefore entitled to a year's salary (and that never would have happened), BP could have covered it with his salary through about May or June. They could have handled any threat or lawsuits by making him sign an indemnity agreement with the school.
I'm glad to see an actual lawyer say that. I've argued with several people along those lines on Twitter and elsewhere.
The way I see it, we're talking about a stepping stone job where people stay 1-3 years and either move on to something better, or wash out of the industry. Like you said, it paid $50K per year. From what I recall, there were around 30 applicants deemed to have met the posted qualifications. Some of those undoubtedly would have been eliminated for other reasons, ranging from poor people skills to chronic body odor to the threat of corporate espionage (one candidate was a recent OL from LSU - think BP wouldn't have had concerns?).
Contrary to popular belief, from what I've seen judges don't just hand out McDonalds coffee judgments like $5 off oil change coupons. Assume the damages as two years of salary for every "qualified" applicant and you're at $3MM, or like you said, 3/4 of a year of BP's salary. I guaranfuckingtee we lost at least ten times that in foregone donations/ticket sales, buyouts to poor coaches, and brand deterioration.
Shifting gears, I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like between the "we HAD to fire him" crowd and "has a gay son they don't speak to anymore because Jesus" and the "disowned your daughter for having a biracial baby" circles. I would imagine there is significant overlap.
Just saw a video of Bobby, speaking on reels, where he says that Jimbo wanted to keep his own terminology and so it was hard to learn and install the offense. Here, he says he's going to be installing it with its original terminology. We will "learn it three times" and be ready for opening kickoff.
Ok then.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 30, 2023, 03:26 PMJust saw a video of Bobby, speaking on reels, where he says that Jimbo wanted to keep his own terminology and so it was hard to learn and install the offense. Here, he says he's going to be installing it with its original terminology. We will "learn it three times" and be ready for opening kickoff.
Ok then.
It was obvious from game one this year that A&M wasn't running Bobby's offense. Granted, his playcalling changed a lot between Arkansas 2011 and Louisville part 2. He had Lamar Jackson and ran a lot more RPO stuff.
But at Missouri State is more like 2011. A lot of shotgun, but plenty of under center stuff as well.
That's what I expect to see, but I guess it depends on who our QB will be.
Petrino press conference live on YouTube now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/m7FF7iAOZPQ?si=RnHewx8ZpGe-Wtrj
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 30, 2023, 03:13 PMI'm glad to see an actual lawyer say that. I've argued with several people along those lines on Twitter and elsewhere.
The way I see it, we're talking about a stepping stone job where people stay 1-3 years and either move on to something better, or wash out of the industry. Like you said, it paid $50K per year. From what I recall, there were around 30 applicants deemed to have met the posted qualifications. Some of those undoubtedly would have been eliminated for other reasons, ranging from poor people skills to chronic body odor to the threat of corporate espionage (one candidate was a recent OL from LSU - think BP wouldn't have had concerns?).
Contrary to popular belief, from what I've seen judges don't just hand out McDonalds coffee judgments like $5 off oil change coupons. Assume the damages as two years of salary for every "qualified" applicant and you're at $3MM, or like you said, 3/4 of a year of BP's salary. I guaranfuckingtee we lost at least ten times that in foregone donations/ticket sales, buyouts to poor coaches, and brand deterioration.
Shifting gears, I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like between the "we HAD to fire him" crowd and "has a gay son they don't speak to anymore because Jesus" and the "disowned your daughter for having a biracial baby" circles. I would imagine there is significant overlap.
But, but, but...sexual harassment!
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Quote from: Too Big Pig on Nov 30, 2023, 03:45 PMPetrino press conference live on YouTube now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/m7FF7iAOZPQ?si=RnHewx8ZpGe-Wtrj
We haven't had a coach at any title in the football dept give intelligent answers to any and all questions...since Bobby Petrino.
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PMI'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.
It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.
I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius. I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.
I hope it works.
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He had the best coaches show evar.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2023, 04:45 PMHe had the best coaches show evar.
I feel like I know a lot about football. I played 9 years and watched for almost 50.
I learned something every single time I watched his show.
He changed the way I watch football games.
https://youtu.be/QzoThXqOMfw
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PMI'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.
It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.
I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius. I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.
I hope it works.
I argued violently with many on there on the topic since I'm very well versed in EEOC laws regarding paramour exceptions and such...
It wasn't illegal and no lawsuits could be brought on those grounds. There simply was no case. Also, if there was a case and damages, firing him did nothing to change those damages.
It was dumb and no necessary then in any way and the people arguing it was were and still are fucking retards.
The Nutt sycophants, I know some who hate Petrino to this day with a passion, wanted him gone.
The university wanted him gone. I know someone who worked in the department.
The smear campaign was orchestrated by the university with all that spin about lawsuits, integrity, lying, blah blah blah. The spineless press ran with it like the good little lapdogs they are.
Yes, we knew it was bullshit. There's no one on this board that is responsible, we were all calling it out 12 years ago.
Petrino got fired because in their eyes he was too powerful. There were powerful factions worried about that. We see right now his sway and power over the state. To those whp were in charge that was a threat and had to be managed.
Not coincidentally that's the same thing that got rid of Nolan. They sabotaged that man in the athletic department the entire time he was here. This may sound crazy, but we've had people in our department who didn't want a winner. They wanted someone they could control.
It's incredible the amount of joy it brings me that we had a game last night where all these years later it is Nolan and Petrino getting crowd shots.
Not Nutt haha that shit is eating him alive. Not the Broyles politic machine. Nolan and Petrino. There's a lot to learn from that about karma.
Quote from: red death on Nov 30, 2023, 06:08 PMThe Nutt sycophants, I know some who hate Petrino to this day with a passion, wanted him gone.
The university wanted him gone. I know someone who worked in the department.
The smear campaign was orchestrated by the university with all that spin about lawsuits, integrity, lying, blah blah blah. The spineless press ran with it like the good little lapdogs they are.
Yes, we knew it was bullshit. There's no one on this board that is responsible, we were all calling it out 12 years ago.
Petrino got fired because in their eyes he was too powerful. There were powerful factions worried about that. We see right now his sway and power over the state. To those whp were in charge that was a threat and had to be managed.
Not coincidentally that's the same thing that got rid of Nolan. They sabotaged that man in the athletic department the entire time he was here. This may sound crazy, but we've had people in our department who didn't want a winner. They wanted someone they could control.
If they come after Muss I am ready for war.
Pittman: "They had the BMFP shirts out and coach had to ask someone what that stands for and we were having trouble figuring that one out" lmao
Maybe I'm wrong but it felt like at the time Jeff Long was being talked about as being chairman of the BCS committee and he was looking to score integrity points and boy did he ever cash in.
Long was a snake who thought he was a lot smarter than he was. Whatever HY is or isn't, he seems to he a genuine dude who seems pretty upfront in his dealings.
Quote from: red death on Nov 30, 2023, 06:08 PMThe Nutt sycophants, I know some who hate Petrino to this day with a passion, wanted him gone.
The university wanted him gone. I know someone who worked in the department.
The smear campaign was orchestrated by the university with all that spin about lawsuits, integrity, lying, blah blah blah. The spineless press ran with it like the good little lapdogs they are.
Yes, we knew it was bullshit. There's no one on this board that is responsible, we were all calling it out 12 years ago.
Petrino got fired because in their eyes he was too powerful. There were powerful factions worried about that. We see right now his sway and power over the state. To those whp were in charge that was a threat and had to be managed.
Not coincidentally that's the same thing that got rid of Nolan. They sabotaged that man in the athletic department the entire time he was here. This may sound crazy, but we've had people in our department who didn't want a winner. They wanted someone they could control.
Bullshit. There were many on this board saying we had to fire him or there would be lawsuits and such. Many.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 30, 2023, 07:13 PMBullshit. There were many on this board saying we had to fire him or there would be lawsuits and such. Many.
Yeah, I'll second that. I remember it well.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 30, 2023, 07:13 PMBullshit. There were many on this board saying we had to fire him or there would be lawsuits and such. Many.
technically it was that other board as this one is still a baby. Also there were a lot of people that died or just went to prison saying that.
So there's that
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 30, 2023, 07:13 PMBullshit. There were many on this board saying we had to fire him or there would be lawsuits and such. Many.
If the old board was around, I'd be quoting myself for days saying I told you this didn't need to happen.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Nov 30, 2023, 07:13 PMBullshit. There were many on this board saying we had to fire him or there would be lawsuits and such. Many.
I was referencing the people here now not the torn labias from the old board who tried to kill it.
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 30, 2023, 05:27 PMhttps://youtu.be/QzoThXqOMfw
My allergies kicked in when he got slightly emotional when asked if he rooted for the Hogs after he left and said he loved the players.
I hope like hell he still has that dog in him to jump somebody's ass and get the best out of them.
Quote from: red death on Nov 30, 2023, 07:37 PMI was referencing the people here now not the torn labias from the old board who tried to kill it.
I just consider this board to be a newer, better extension of that board...HRW never forgets or forgives.
There were a lot of people throwing out legal opinions then. From what I remember the premise was that since Jessica was hired by the Athletic Dept over other candidates while they had a relationship that was the issue, and that if she had remained a foundation employee it was all good.
The whole way that incident happened with the cop posting on here, showing off, and later got fired, etc - so weird.
I feel like anywhere else that was easily covered up.
No sense in rehashing all that, I guess. Hard not to still be pissed.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 30, 2023, 05:50 AMSo if normal patterns hold, we should hear this morning about some horrible and program killing news.
We aren't allowed days like yesterday without repercussions.
As someone the same age as Petrino, at least volleyball butts won't be our downfall this time. While I still consider them superior to most, they've lost considerable power over me in the last decade. I certainly wouldn't risk getting on a motorcycle with one.
https://x.com/mikeirwinptn/status/1730434541301477531?
Have no idea it this is true, but it is definitely interesting.
RE: BMFP Firing
Well for the record I was against it from the start and even more so as the years have gone by watching all these dullards lead this football program. I do believe I agreed it was grounds for termination or some kind of severe penalty...a suspension something like that but ultimately saw it as a stupid decision fucking with your money maker. That money savings and integrity move undoubtedly cost the university millions in lost potential revenue. Add in the multiple scandals at other schools since then that make the Petrino-Harley scandal sound like a...simple traffic accident.
Moving past that don't know that people really understand how this all works and maybe I don't either but asking coaches to explain how they came together is mainly pointless. Sam and Bobby are not fishing buddies. Of course agents got involved if for no other reason than for contractual things happening and maybe Sam not allowed to officially talk to Bobby until he was officially free from his employer.
In that press conference it sounded like Sam was fixing to start talking about coaches leaving but then he stopped himself. Anyway he did say something like "we aren't done". Also found it somewhat interesting that Bobby claimed none of the A&M assistants had anything to do with the NIL and the way things are organized at Arkansas I take it to mean everyone does? There was no follow up question to that...of course. This makes me curious what is standard at most programs...I'd think there would be a small contingent of people in the know and that's it. That is like a "Front Office" type thing.
Someone pissed in Nate Olson's Cheerios and Hootie weighs in.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/bobby-petrino-hire-risk-little-reward-arkansas-football-sam-pittman/
I know who Robert Shields is, but who tf is Nate Olson?
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSomeone pissed in Nate Olson's Cheerios and Hootie weighs in.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/bobby-petrino-hire-risk-little-reward-arkansas-football-sam-pittman/
Hootie isn't wrong.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSomeone pissed in Nate Olson's Cheerios and Hootie weighs in.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/bobby-petrino-hire-risk-little-reward-arkansas-football-sam-pittman/
"and was part of the reason Texas A&M fired head coach Jimbo Fisher for underachieving this year."
Yeah, Bobby is one of the reasons as to why Jimbo was fired. What a dumb as shit take.
Hootie isn't wrong, but unlike Hootie was, I don't think Sam is planning on being our coach in five years or maybe even two. I think Sam wants to win and then go to the lake. And even if he does, he has to win. And if he is still here even in two years, that means he won enough to get there.
In short, yeah Sam is desperate, but it is a different kind of desperation than Hootie had. Sam wants to go out a winner. Hootie was trying to hold on to his personal fiefdom and feed his ego.
I think Sam would be fine if he goes home a winner in s year or two and Petrino takes his place. It's all subject to change or I could be wrong, but those are my thoughts on the differences.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSomeone pissed in Nate Olson's Cheerios and Hootie weighs in.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/bobby-petrino-hire-risk-little-reward-arkansas-football-sam-pittman/
That article has a lot of cherry picking of Petrino's bad years, hand-waving of his good years, and some misleading (if not outright false) statements about his time at A&M.
Houston Nutt isn't wrong that Bobby is more popular than Sam. This never happened for Sam...
https://twitter.com/TreyBiddy/status/1730070550339281334
I'm sure Nutt remembers how 2006 went down, and Sam is nowhere near as politically powerful to undermine Bobby the way Dale did Gus.
From the article...
"I think he's likely licking his chops knowing that Pittman's status is shaky and that with a good offensive season, he could get his old job back."
I keep seeing this stupid ass thought.
Let me get this straight. Retards think that if the offense does great, which means the team will most likely do great, Hunter is going to fire Sam and give the HC position to Bobby? People really think that?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 01, 2023, 07:38 AMI know who Robert Shields is, but who tf is Nate Olson?
A hack In disheveled clothes. I know that doesn't really narrow it down.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 07:56 AMHootie isn't wrong, but unlike Hootie was, I don't think Sam is planning on being our coach in five years or maybe even two. I think Sam wants to win and then go to the lake. And even if he does, he has to win. And if he is still here even in two years, that means he won enough to get there.
In short, yeah Sam is desperate, but it is a different kind of desperation than Hootie had. Sam wants to go out a winner. Hootie was trying to hold on to his personal fiefdom and feed his ego.
I think Sam would be fine if he goes home a winner in s year or two and Petrino takes his place. It's all subject to change or I could be wrong, but those are my thoughts on the differences.
You think if Sam has back to back 10 win seasons he will retire? If he wins the NC he will retire?
Why would he do that? And why would HY do anything but throw the kitchen sink at him to keep him as HC?
One additional thought...
If the Hogs don't win enough over the next two years to save Sam, I don't see a scenario where they give the job to Bobby. Why would they?
This is a "ride together, die together" relationship for those two guys.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:00 AMFrom the article...
"I think he's likely licking his chops knowing that Pittman's status is shaky and that with a good offensive season, he could get his old job back."
I keep seeing this stupid ass thought.
Let me get this straight. Retards think that if the offense does great, which means the team will most likely do great, Hunter is going to fire Sam and give the Hac position to Bobby? People really think that?
I imagine most people think/hope Sam goes to the lake on his own or is gently nudged out the door.
And yeah, I don't think Sam will be here in two or three years regardless of what happens. It would be nice if we have enough success that Petrino seems to be the logical choice. If it doesn't work, they'll probably both be out of a job.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:02 AMYou think if Sam has back to back 10 win seasons he will retire? If he wins the NC he will retire?
Why would he do that? And why would HY do anything but throw the kitchen sink at him to keep him as HC?
Well, he isn't doing that and I don't think Sam has ever shown enough desire to work hard enough to sign up for another five years when he'll be 65. That would put him in Saban territory as far as longevity. Have you ever heard Saban talk about cobeer and hanging out on a party barge? You can't do that working fifteen hour days.
Bobby is going to verbally abuse Sam into losing weight and discovering energy that he never realized he had.
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 01, 2023, 07:59 AMThat article has a lot of cherry picking of Petrino's bad years, hand-waving of his good years, and some misleading (if not outright false) statements about his time at A&M.
Houston Nutt isn't wrong that Bobby is more popular than Sam. This never happened for Sam...
https://twitter.com/TreyBiddy/status/1730070550339281334
I'm sure Nutt remembers how 2006 went down, and Sam is nowhere near as politically powerful to undermine Bobby the way Dale did Gus.
Watching that video. That may be the only time something like that has ever happened.
I can't think of any other example of a coordinator being introduced and having that kind of reception.
Bobby was eating it up, but I'm sure Sam was a little nervous about how this all plays out.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Dec 01, 2023, 08:11 AMWatching that video. That may be the only time something like that has ever happened.
I can't think of any other example of a coordinator being introduced and having that kind of reception.
Bobby was eating it up, but I'm sure Sam was a little nervous about how this all plays out.
It happened at least three times during the game.
We couldn't be bothered to interrupt the french fry challenge to bring him onto the court for an introduction.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:00 AMFrom the article...
"I think he's likely licking his chops knowing that Pittman's status is shaky and that with a good offensive season, he could get his old job back."
I keep seeing this stupid ass thought.
Let me get this straight. Retards think that if the offense does great, which means the team will most likely do great, Hunter is going to fire Sam and give the HC position to Bobby? People really think that?
It never made sense to me for a team to fire a staff for underperforming, then hire a guy off that same underachieving group to be the new head coach. I'm sure there are instances where it worked, but it seems like backwards logic.
The only scenario I could possibly see where Sam fails and BMFP replaces him is if it goes something like last year, with a solid to very good offense losing games because of a bottom tier defense and inexplicable decision making by the head coach. Think losing a bunch of 34-31 or 42-40 games because Sam went for it on 4th and 7 from the 18 yard line instead of taking the FG and things of that nature.
I love how Nate takes issue with Bobby leaving UNLV days after taking the job.
UNLV was set to pay him $300k a year.
A&M offered him $1.4 MILLION a year.
Every person on the planet would have done the same thing.
Why didn't he put that fact in his article? He only used the phrase "more lucrative".
Fuck that guy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:18 AMI love how Nate takes issue with Bobby leaving UNLV days after taking the job.
UNLV was set to pay him $300k a year.
A&M offered him $1.4 MILLION a year.
Every person on the planet would have done the same thing.
Why didn't he put that fact in his article? He only used the phrase "more lucrative".
Fuck that guy.
Wait, Nate Olsen?
I thought I was reading Nate Allen.
Like someone else said, who the fuck is Nate Olsen?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:18 AMI love how Nate takes issue with Bobby leaving UNLV days after taking the job.
UNLV was set to pay him $300k a year.
A&M offered him $1.4 MILLION a year.
Every person on the planet would have done the same thing.
Why didn't he put that fact in his article? He only used the phrase "more lucrative".
Fuck that guy.
Many sportswriters, especially the older ones still in it as a career, think that anyone making $100K per year or above is "rich", and there is no real reason other than evil greed for anyone to choose a job paying any more than that.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:02 AMThis is a "ride together, die together" relationship for those two guys.
Exactly! Like Mongoose said the other day, "It's the football version of Space Cowboys"
Obviously there were no hard feelings about the UNLV thing. That was Odom. Obviously, Odom and Sam are tight. Clearly Odom was probably impressed in the three weeks BP was there, but he understood why BP went to A&M.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 01, 2023, 08:13 AMIt happened at least three times during the game.
We couldn't be bothered to interrupt the french fry challenge to bring him onto the court for an introduction.
Can you imagine the crowd reaction if no one knew we had hired Bobby... until about 5 minutes before the game the PA announcer was just like, "Oh shit, yeah, hey y'all we forgot to announce the football program's new offensive coordinator." Lights go out, come back on, and Bobby and Sam are standing on the court.
But, we're Arkansas.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 08:07 AMWell, he isn't doing that and I don't think Sam has ever shown enough desire to work hard enough to sign up for another five years when he'll be 65. That would put him in Saban territory as far as longevity. Have you ever heard Saban talk about cobeer and hanging out on a party barge? You can't do that working fifteen hour days.
There are many articles about Saban at his lake house and on his ski boat.
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 01, 2023, 08:53 AMThere are many articles about Saban at his lake house and on his ski boat.
But they have to go there to get them. They are consciously trying to make him seem human. Find me an example of him mentioning it or even entertaining a question about it in a business press conference. The lake house interview I remember most was one where he talked about having a pool the entire time he had been there and not having stepped in it once in the first five or ten years because he was too busy.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 01, 2023, 08:37 AMCan you imagine the crowd reaction if no one knew we had hired Bobby... until about 5 minutes before the game the PA announcer was just like, "Oh shit, yeah, hey y'all we forgot to announce the football program's new offensive coordinator." Lights go out, come back on, and Bobby and Sam are standing on the court.
But, we're Arkansas.
That woulda been the most epic thing in the history of history.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSomeone pissed in Nate Olson's Cheerios and Hootie weighs in.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/bobby-petrino-hire-risk-little-reward-arkansas-football-sam-pittman/
That's some self righteous masturbation right there.
I try to hire people better than me at the stuff I'm not good at. And I hope they are absolute rockstars doing it. It makes them look good, me look good, and makes my life easier. I want those people. There are some leaders who don't want to be overshadowed. Hell, I hope they kill it and keep moving up.
If I'm Sam, I'm all "Hell yeah, Bobby."
I don't really think Bobby is angling for the big chair anymore, but on the same token he's probably not turning down the gig if it's offered in a year or so. I think he's being honest when he says he wants to teach football and be part of it all again. He loves that part of the game.
Sam would be unwise to not implement whatever the fuck Bobby tells him too, but on the same token Sam knows well enough that he's not some scrub his own damn self when it comes to coaching. Maybe Sam needs to be reminded of that. The two may be oil and water off the field but I think they'll speak enough of the same language of football where they won't really get in each others ways.
If I was Sam I would ignore all that shit people are saying and soak up all I could in terms of running a successful program. Maybe we already have "that guy" in place but it sounds to me our main people are a bit lost in terms of NIL...we need some people in place that really understand it well. By that I mean get every edge we can and make it look ethical.
From this point on I'm more curious if Bobby is making the hiring decisions on the offensive staff or not.
Another thing Bobby said when he was trying his damn best to convince everyone that he's not the head coach but Sam Pittman is...he kept on and on about short yardage plays and critical 4th down calls and all the other stuff. Basically it's everything Sam is terrible at doing but Bobby basically said that's the head coach making those decisions...
It's those in-game decisions that have cost us ball games and anyone with eyes and ears knows it. That has to be recognized and fixed. Bobby can make Sam into a much better front man than he's been up to this point.
Quote from: Guardrail on Dec 01, 2023, 09:30 AMI try to hire people better than me at the stuff I'm not good at. And I hope they are absolute rockstars doing it. It makes them look good, me look good, and makes my life easier. I want those people. There are some leaders who don't want to be overshadowed. Hell, I hope they kill it and keep moving up.
If I'm Sam, I'm all "Hell yeah, Bobby."
This right here.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 08:55 AMBut they have to go there to get them. They are consciously trying to make him seem human. Find me an example of him mentioning it or even entertaining a question about it in a business press conference. The lake house interview I remember most was one where he talked about having a pool the entire time he had been there and not having stepped in it once in the first five or ten years because he was too busy.
this is the one I remember:
takes every new player there...
Olsen also says he jumped at this opportunity because it was the only place showing interest. Where is that coming from? Has Petrino, his agent, or anyone with that kind of knowledge said anything close to that? Gotta love it when "reporters" can't stop at twisting the truth and just make stuff up in order to create the narrative they want.
Maybe I'm naive but I think Bobby genuinely loved living in NW Arkansas and it fit his profile of where he was comfortable living and someday retiring. Like Sam I think he actually does love it here and staying in NWA was always his preference. I don't think he ever would've left our job had he not been fired.
I think if he had to be an OC somewhere, it was at UA, and while he might want to be a HC it clearly wasn't at a lower tier which is why he left Missouri St. I do think he can't work for someone that won't let him run his own offense, he doesn't want to have the product on the field look inferior when it's not solely his responsibility.
This was a smart move by Hunter and Pittman as an angry fan base suddenly is cutting them enormous slack, literally BMFP may be the only hire they could've made that would've had any meaningful impact on sentiment.
When does Sam (Bobby) bring Paul "Frodo" Petrino back as WR coach?
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 01, 2023, 09:55 AMthis is the one I remember:
takes every new player there...
That's work, so what's your point?
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Dec 01, 2023, 10:18 AMMaybe I'm naive but I think Bobby genuinely loved living in NW Arkansas and it fit his profile of where he was comfortable living and someday retiring. Like Sam I think he actually does love it here and staying in NWA was always his preference. I don't think he ever would've left our job had he not been fired.
I think if he had to be an OC somewhere, it was at UA, and while he might want to be a HC it clearly wasn't at a lower tier which is why he left Missouri St. I do think he can't work for someone that won't let him run his own offense, he doesn't want to have the product on the field look inferior when it's not solely his responsibility.
This was a smart move by Hunter and Pittman as an angry fan base suddenly is cutting them enormous slack, literally BMFP may be the only hire they could've made that would've had any meaningful impact on sentiment.
I have said since it was first floated it is the only move that Yurachek/Pittman could make to win the fanbase back. That decision sold many thousands of season tickets for next year.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 10:28 AMThat's work, so what's your point?
Not always
and he has a party barge...
he likes to go to the lake, just like Pittman
Woopig is getting shafted not getting royalties every time BMFP is printed on something.
I don't remember the poster, but when it was coming out we hired Bobby from the falcons that night someone posted BOBBY MOTHERFUCKING PETRINO! And thus BMFP was born.
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 01, 2023, 10:42 AMNot always
and he has a party barge...
he likes to go to the lake, just like Pittman
As I said, find an instance where it's ever been mentioned outside of human interest stories. And of course, he has kids.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 10:54 AMAs I said, find an instance where it's ever been mentioned outside of human interest stories. And of course, he has kids.
You must not watch SEC Network much. He talks about it all the fucking time. Give it a rest.
Quote from: BASS on Dec 01, 2023, 10:54 AMWoopig is getting shafted not getting royalties every time BMFP is printed on something.
I don't remember the poster, but when it was coming out we hired Bobby from the falcons that night someone posted BOBBY MOTHERFUCKING PETRINO! And thus BMFP was born.
I'd settle for a free shirt.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Dec 01, 2023, 11:06 AMYou must not watch SEC Network much. He talks about it all the fucking time. Give it a rest.
That's not Saban. That's the cyborg double specifically created to ironically make him seem almost human.
It's a weird fucking hill you are climbing up.
I have one or two of those shirts still in my closet. They've shrunk a lot in the last decade
Quote from: animal on Dec 01, 2023, 11:57 AMI have one or two of those shirts still in my closet. They've shrunk a lot in the last decade
Hate when that happens. I've had to start getting warranties on all my pants for that exact reason.
Quote from: Spiderham on Dec 01, 2023, 10:27 AMWhen does Sam (Bobby) bring Paul "Frodo" Petrino back as WR coach?
Frodo or Fredo? Those two are not the same thing.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Dec 01, 2023, 12:47 PMFrodo or Fredo? Those two are not the same thing.
either the guy to do an impossible quest for us or somebody's weak brother
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Dec 01, 2023, 12:25 PMHate when that happens. I've had to start getting warranties on all my pants for that exact reason.
Think I'll go home and have a pizza contemplating wut might be the problem
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 01, 2023, 07:59 AMHouston Nutt isn't wrong that Bobby is more popular than Sam. This never happened for Sam...
I was at a basketball game shortly after Sam's 9-4 season and he damn sure got a huge standing ovation from the crowd while he walked from box to seat. Jumbotron and all. He can get back there. He's smart enough to let Petrino run the whole show on offense.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Dec 01, 2023, 10:18 AMMaybe I'm naive but I think Bobby genuinely loved living in NW Arkansas and it fit his profile of where he was comfortable living and someday retiring.
I agree 100%. One of the talking points against him here was that he was going to bolt for higher profile job, but that was never close to happening. If I remember correctly, he wanted a big buyout just as much as the UA did, at least that's what I always heard.
For someone who sounds like he's reading his answers to the media out of a book for the first time, he sounds very genuine and remorseful when he talks about his time coaching here and talking about the players he had.
My money is on closet goblins
Quote from: Spiderham on Dec 01, 2023, 10:27 AMWhen does Sam (Bobby) bring Paul "Frodo" Petrino back as WR coach?
They would run precise routes.
Or get called cunts.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 01, 2023, 11:10 AMI'd settle for a free shirt.
Free is free but it better have a pocket for my smokes.
Pittman and Bobby in PB today.
Quote from: mde114 on Dec 01, 2023, 06:49 PMPittman and Bobby in PB today.
Looking to flip the 4* TE Harris committed to Misery maybe?
Quote from: TC on Dec 01, 2023, 07:43 PMLooking to flip the 4* TE Harris committed to Misery maybe?
Probably looking to recommit the WR that de-committed from us last week. He said we were not out of the game, that he just committed too early. What was his name? Cumberland?
crutchfield. that's who they were visiting.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 01, 2023, 08:08 PMcrutchfield. that's who they were visiting.
Yep, that is the name.
it's one hell of a hail mary.
I don't know that it's a one year fix, lots of issues to deal with and first and foremost is the offensive line - which puzzles everyone because that's the one thing that sam brings to the table - and until that gets improved nothing changes.
I would imagine Kennedy going to Miss State is he's being told to find work elsewhere. (And also, what's that say about Lebby for hiring him?? yikes)
Saban still coaches a position so maybe Sam takes on more coaching the o-line because honestly, what do we need him for? He's gotta worse at the press conferences and everything else head coach related.
thanks for posting the presser - if he still has the hunger - and it appears he does - it's time to feed the studs - but we need studs. Also, it looks like this season has aged Sam like a year it does to the President. he didn't look good and it's going to be interesting to see how this relationship works out because BMFP is again the most popular football coach in the state.
does bobby get to remake the offensive staff?
I'm with Dirk - not sure why they didn't trot him out during the game - it would have blown the roof off BWA.
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 01, 2023, 07:58 PMProbably looking to recommit the WR that de-committed from us last week. He said we were not out of the game, that he just committed too early. What was his name? Cumberland?
THX
Quote from: DrMongoose on Dec 01, 2023, 09:15 PMit's one hell of a hail mary.
I don't know that it's a one year fix, lots of issues to deal with and first and foremost is the offensive line - which puzzles everyone because that's the one thing that sam brings to the table - and until that gets improved nothing changes.
I would imagine Kennedy going to Miss State is he's being told to find work elsewhere. (And also, what's that say about Lebby for hiring him?? yikes)
Saban still coaches a position so maybe Sam takes on more coaching the o-line because honestly, what do we need him for? He's gotta worse at the press conferences and everything else head coach related.
thanks for posting the presser - if he still has the hunger - and it appears he does - it's time to feed the studs - but we need studs. Also, it looks like this season has aged Sam like a year it does to the President. he didn't look good and it's going to be interesting to see how this relationship works out because BMFP is again the most popular football coach in the state.
does bobby get to remake the offensive staff?
I'm with Dirk - not sure why they didn't trot him out during the game - it would have blown the roof off BWA.
It certainly has a "Danny Ford is just here to shore up special teams" feel to it back in the Joe Kines year.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 01, 2023, 08:08 PMcrutchfield. that's who they were visiting.
Guiton was also there. Guess he's staying on as WR coach.
Bumping this back to the top.
Bobby ain't going to tolerate some half-assed message board.
Now that Sam has an experienced head coaching consultant back, does Bobby need to be near him on the sideline for the guidance or will a headset suffice and put Bobby in the booth. I'm thinking the sideline so that wayward dumbasses, mainly players,(and coaches), can feel the wrath of BMFP's anger when dumbassery happens.
I am glad BMFP is back, but all I can see is two old guys riding off into the sunset with huge paydays. I think both are ready to retire and get out of the drudgery of football things. Hopefully, they have one or maybe two more years of greatness before that happens.
Quote from: Labhawg on Dec 02, 2023, 04:47 PMNow that Sam has an experienced head coaching consultant back, does Bobby need to be near him on the sideline for the guidance or will a headset suffice and put Bobby in the booth. I'm thinking the sideline so that wayward dumbasses, mainly players,(and coaches), can feel the wrath of BMFP's anger when dumbassery happens.
I think in this situation the media is going to dig in deep on questions like who's really running the team etc. It's going to wear thin with Pittman given his thin skin. Bobby may be intentionally put up in the booth to keep his profile a bit lower. He'll cast a large shadow regardless where he's at.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Dec 02, 2023, 04:49 PMI am glad BMFP is back, but all I can see is two old guys riding off into the sunset with huge paydays. I think both are ready to retire and get out of the drudgery of football things. Hopefully, they have one or maybe two more years of greatness before that happens.
I really think this means nore to Bobby than a payday. He realizes what he screwed up and has something to prove in making it right.
I think Sam genuinely cares about the program and state as well. He wants to leave it better than he found it.
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 01, 2023, 07:59 AMhttps://twitter.com/TreyBiddy/status/1730070550339281334
Phallus in the Palace
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Dec 02, 2023, 06:49 PMI really think this means nore to Bobby than a payday. He realizes what he screwed up and has something to prove in making it right.
I think Sam genuinely cares about the program and state as well. He wants to leave it better than he found it.
Sam gets to be who he is. The kindly grandpa who truly does care about his kids who can close on the recruiting trail. I think Petrino loves it up there and considers it as close to home as he's ever had. Plus, he's loved up there.
Quote from: Labhawg on Dec 02, 2023, 04:47 PMNow that Sam has an experienced head coaching consultant back, does Bobby need to be near him on the sideline for the guidance or will a headset suffice and put Bobby in the booth. I'm thinking the sideline so that wayward dumbasses, mainly players,(and coaches), can feel the wrath of BMFP's anger when dumbassery happens.
Bobby in the booth. Players in shock collars with buttons he can push. Also next to a force recon marine sniper who can manage dumbassery with perfectly placed round to knee, shoulder, or brain.
We might have some serious struggles next year but I suspect it will look like a combo of 2008 and 2009. Still a lot of work to do, but you can see where we are going and what we are trying to do and just need some pieces.
2009 wasn't an amazing year, but everyone watching that year could feel what was coming going forward and 2010 did come. Let's hope we are closer to 2009 than 2008.
Looking at this year, we did have a ton of pieces and with better coaching this 4-8 is easily 8-4. No joke. The wins were right there with just a little more attention to detail. We didn't get really blasted this year much, we just didn't do the little things required to win a close game. I suspect we will see the team start to do the little things better starting next year...
The only man I know who openly talks about hiring prostitutes told me he thinks hiring BMFP represents "an all-time low" for the athletic department. So there's that. People are funny and stupid.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Dec 03, 2023, 04:50 PMWe might have some serious struggles next year but I suspect it will look like a combo of 2008 and 2009. Still a lot of work to do, but you can see where we are going and what we are trying to do and just need some pieces.
2009 wasn't an amazing year, but everyone watching that year could feel what was coming going forward and 2010 did come. Let's hope we are closer to 2009 than 2008.
Looking at this year, we did have a ton of pieces and with better coaching this 4-8 is easily 8-4. No joke. The wins were right there with just a little more attention to detail. We didn't get really blasted this year much, we just didn't do the little things required to win a close game. I suspect we will see the team start to do the little things better starting next year...
Logically, I know that you're correct. However, in my heart, I desperately want to be good next year. Well, good enough to beat TX, TN, and LSU. Every team I hate, and I do mean HATE, we get at home... and I want nothing more than to win those games.
Quote from: passed on Dec 03, 2023, 07:28 PMLogically, I know that you're correct. However, in my heart, I desperately want to be good next year. Well, good enough to beat TX, TN, and LSU. Every team I hate, and I do mean HATE, we get at home... and I want nothing more than to win those games.
And it's always good to beat Ole Miss.
And I'd like to start beating the shit out of Missouri.
A&M too.
State and Auburn, I'd like to win, but no special hatred.
But TX, TN, LSU, MO, Ole Miss, and aTm is a heck of a hate filled year.
Quote from: wmr on Dec 03, 2023, 07:16 PMThe only man I know who openly talks about hiring prostitutes told me he thinks hiring BMFP represents "an all-time low" for the athletic department. So there's that. People are funny and stupid.
You know Hugh Freeze?
Quote from: wmr on Dec 03, 2023, 07:16 PMThe only man I know who openly talks about hiring prostitutes told me he thinks hiring BMFP represents "an all-time low" for the athletic department. So there's that. People are funny and stupid.
Female prostitutes?
I'd give anything to run it up on Mizzou. Camera panning to dork's defeated face every few minutes.
The thing that really concerns me on offense is our lack of big play threats. Petrino had plenty of those guys when he was here the first time. I honestly don't know if we had one play go over 50 yards from scrimmage the entire 2023 season.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 04, 2023, 06:24 AMThe thing that really concerns me on offense is our lack of big play threats. Petrino had plenty of those guys when he was here the first time. I honestly don't know if we had one play go over 50 yards from scrimmage the entire 2023 season.
I think it was Dubinion that ran one like 75 yards early in the BYU game? I was still hopeful a that moment.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 04, 2023, 06:24 AMThe thing that really concerns me on offense is our lack of big play threats. Petrino had plenty of those guys when he was here the first time. I honestly don't know if we had one play go over 50 yards from scrimmage the entire 2023 season.
I don't know that we DON'T have big play threats. You have to have an Offense and an OL to make big plays and we did NOT have that this year at all. It's entirely possible that we have plenty of raw talent.
Quote from: passed on Dec 04, 2023, 06:51 AMI don't know that we DON'T have big play threats. You have to have an Offense and an OL to make big plays and we did NOT have that this year at all. It's entirely possible that we have plenty of raw talent.
Big plays were not a feature in the Enos offense. There was an article about that aspect of his offense on one of those sites that breaks everything down before the season even started. In the article it predicted that Sanders might struggle under than scheme because he was one of the worst yards after contact backs in the league.
IDK who needs to hear this but according to Matt Rhule your veteran transfer QB that's worth a shit is going to command 1, 1.5 to 2 million dollars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us98JdeUwEM
also I dislike Pat McAfee...I dislike anything with the last name McAfee though.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 04, 2023, 06:56 AMBig plays were not a feature in the Enos offense. There was an article about that aspect of his offense on one of those sites that breaks everything down before the season even started. In the article it predicted that Sanders might struggle under than scheme because he was one of the worst yards after contact backs in the league.
I have no doubt that's true about Enos offense but Rocket also got fat and slowed down. Anytime someone says "this guy gained 15-20 lbs and didn't lose speed" well that's bullshit. Maybe if he was on some really good gear but there's no way you're gaining 20lbs in less than a year and not losing any speed.
As far as big play guys go Sategna definitely fits the bill. I like Armstrong and Teslaa fine but they don't have the speed.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 04, 2023, 06:56 AMBig plays were not a feature in the Enos offense.
Neither were short gains, slow but steady marches down the field.
The main features of Enos's offense were quarterback sacks and hurries, and runs stuffed for no gain into a crowded line.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 04, 2023, 07:15 AMI have no doubt that's true about Enos offense but Rocket also got fat and slowed down. Anytime someone says "this guy gained 15-20 lbs and didn't lose speed" well that's bullshit. Maybe if he was on some really good gear but there's no way you're gaining 20lbs in less than a year and not losing any speed.
As far as big play guys go Sategna definitely fits the bill. I like Armstrong and Teslaa fine but they don't have the speed.
Armstrong is plenty fast...I came away fairly impressed with his overall game. Gotta think he would be a weapon with a better offense and blocking. I see him as a Javontee Herndon type in Petrinos system.
Teslaa is slow as Christmas but maybe they can do some magic with him in route running.
Dozier has potential but may not be on the team
Wilson will presumably be a "veteran" but isn't all that impressive.
Satagna is very small but could certainly utilize him in Petrinos system
We certainly need big play ability added to the roster for now and in the future. If you look at our WRs I'm not sure any of them would start or play for any of the front runners in our league.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 04, 2023, 06:24 AMThe thing that really concerns me on offense is our lack of big play threats. Petrino had plenty of those guys when he was here the first time. I honestly don't know if we had one play go over 50 yards from scrimmage the entire 2023 season.
How many passes were thrown where the receiver could catch it in stride and have the opportunity for a big play? We have to have a qb that can throw on time and to a spot. KJ didn't have that capability. Most were high/low or behind.
Quote from: Lurk on Dec 04, 2023, 09:50 AMHow many passes were thrown where the receiver could catch it in stride and have the opportunity for a big play? We have to have a qb that can throw on time and to a spot. KJ didn't have that capability. Most were high/low or behind.
KJ's worst pass is Petrino's favorite. That's the deep over the middle in stride.
I want KJ to go. I realize we might get worse and that's okay. I think KJ didn't buy in this year with Enos and that was a big part of why Enos failed so spectacularly. Petrino demands a lot and frankly, I don't see KJ putting in the work. That is a recipe for disaster because it will be hard to bench KJ.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 04, 2023, 08:06 AMNeither were short gains, slow but steady marches down the field.
The main features of Enos's offense were quarterback sacks and hurries, and runs stuffed for no gain into a crowded line.
Perfect description.
Quote from: passed on Dec 04, 2023, 06:51 AMI don't know that we DON'T have big play threats.
Does anybody know anything about the Dazmin James kid? Supposedly a late bloomer to football but had better objective track numbers than Sategna. I assume he's still here as a redshirt. May have hands of Makhel Mitchell (ie stone) for all I know but just curious.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 04, 2023, 06:24 AMThe thing that really concerns me on offense is our lack of big play threats. Petrino had plenty of those guys when he was here the first time. I honestly don't know if we had one play go over 50 yards from scrimmage the entire 2023 season.
He made 150 lb Michael Smith an all sec caliber running back
Quote from: BASS on Dec 04, 2023, 11:50 AMHe made 150 lb Michael Smith an all sec caliber running back
Michael Smith was good before he got here, he was just stuck behind Felix and DMAC. I'm guessing if you go back to the 2008 season when London Crawford was our number one WR you'll see we didn't have a ton of big plays that season either.
Lucas Miller ain't walkin through that door.
2024 is going to be rough, no two ways about it. We might conceivably be a better team across the board and end up with another 4-8 record. I would assume Texas and Missouri don't drop off, that LSU gets their defense fixed, and that Auburn finds a QB. I would also assume that A&M improves simply due to better coaching, though who knows, they may struggle in year one under Elko. Oklahoma State is a team that either gets blown out or blows out their opponent, doesn't matter who they play. Starkville hates us.
I see three sure wins, five likely losses, and four toss-ups, one of which is a true road game early in the season.
Aug 31 - UAPB (win)
Sep 07 - @OK St (toss-up)
Sep 14 - UAB (win)
Sep 21 - LSU (loss)
Sep 28 - Texas A&M (toss-up)
@ Auburn (loss)
@ Miss St (loss)
Texas (loss)
Ole Miss (toss-up)
Tennessee (toss-up)
Nov 23 - LA Tech (win)
Nov 29 - @ Missouri (loss)
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 04, 2023, 01:16 PM2024 is going to be rough, no two ways about it. We might conceivably be a better team across the board and end up with another 4-8 record. I would assume Texas and Missouri don't drop off, that LSU gets their defense fixed, and that Auburn finds a QB. I would also assume that A&M improves simply due to better coaching, though who knows, they may struggle in year one under Elko. Oklahoma State is a team that either gets blown out or blows out their opponent, doesn't matter who they play. Starkville hates us.
I see three sure wins, five likely losses, and four toss-ups, one of which is a true road game early in the season.
Aug 31 - UAPB (win)
Sep 07 - @OK St (toss-up)
Sep 14 - UAB (win)
Sep 21 - LSU (loss)
Sep 28 - Texas A&M (toss-up)
@ Auburn (loss)
@ Miss St (loss)
Texas (loss)
Ole Miss (toss-up)
Tennessee (toss-up)
Nov 23 - LA Tech (win)
Nov 29 - @ Missouri (loss)
I think we could sneak up on Okie Lite early. Could see BP devising a game plan to score on them and their offense isn't otherworldly. That Gordon kid is a good running back, but he's about all they got.
Texas did whatever it wanted to them in the Big 12 Championship game. They also got housed by UCF and barely beat a lot of their Big 12 opponents. Plus, Gundy always follows up a good year with a clunker. I'd bet the house on them winning less than 7.5 next year.
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 04, 2023, 01:16 PM2024 is going to be rough, no two ways about it. We might conceivably be a better team across the board and end up with another 4-8 record. I would assume Texas and Missouri don't drop off, that LSU gets their defense fixed, and that Auburn finds a QB. I would also assume that A&M improves simply due to better coaching, though who knows, they may struggle in year one under Elko. Oklahoma State is a team that either gets blown out or blows out their opponent, doesn't matter who they play. Starkville hates us.
I see three sure wins, five likely losses, and four toss-ups, one of which is a true road game early in the season.
Aug 31 - UAPB (win)
Sep 07 - @OK St (toss-up)
Sep 14 - UAB (win)
Sep 21 - LSU (loss)
Sep 28 - Texas A&M (toss-up)
@ Auburn (loss)
@ Miss St (loss)
Texas (loss)
Ole Miss (toss-up)
Tennessee (toss-up)
Nov 23 - LA Tech (win)
Nov 29 - @ Missouri (loss)
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Quote from: HughJasole on Dec 04, 2023, 01:50 PMI think we could sneak up on Okie Lite early. Could see BP devising a game plan to score on them and their offense isn't otherworldly. That Gordon kid is a good running back, but he's about all they got.
Texas did whatever it wanted to them in the Big 12 Championship game. They also got housed by UCF and barely beat a lot of their Big 12 opponents. Plus, Gundy always follows up a good year with a clunker. I'd bet the house on them winning less than 7.5 next year.
OK State looked like warmed over shit early this season.
Only beat UCA by 14 (they were trailing 14-6 headed into the 4th quarter).
Beat a terrible ASU team by 12 (trailed at halftime).
Got housed 33-7 by South Alabama.
Lost to Iowa State.
They turned it around the next week and had a nice 5 game run before getting the shit beaten out of them by UCF, but their record belies how many close calls and brushes with disaster they had this season.
In case you missed it, Adam Ford's (Fayvillains) breakdown of Bobby's current-day offense and what it might look like here.
https://www.fayvillains.com/2023/12/01/what-will-the-bobby-petrino-offense-look-like-at-arkansas/
He's a lot more cautiously optimistic than he was over the Enos hire.
Quote from: bigpig on Dec 05, 2023, 08:59 AMIn case you missed it, Adam Ford's (Fayvillains) breakdown of Bobby's current-day offense and what it might look like here.
https://www.fayvillains.com/2023/12/01/what-will-the-bobby-petrino-offense-look-like-at-arkansas/
He's a lot more cautiously optimistic than he was over the Enos hire.
Like he said, it might fail but it has much more potential to work really well than the last hire. I don't think anyone, including the players will lack faith in Petrino's ability to get it done. Faith that what your coaches are telling you will work is how teams achieve that extra attention to detail that allows them to execute down the stretch and win games.
Holy shit, I did not realized we played Ok. State next year. That is an absolute must win. There are a ton of Cowboy fans in my office. The other E.E. on my team, who I work with directly, every day, is one of them. If we lose that one, I'll have to find another fucking job.
Quote from: Pinkphiloyd on Dec 05, 2023, 09:58 AMHoly shit, I did not realized we played Ok. State next year. That is an absolute must win. There are a ton of Cowboy fans in my office. The other E.E. on my team, who I work with directly, every day, is one of them. If we lose that one, I'll have to find another fucking job.
I'd start looking now to be safe.
Okie State is the most unpredictable school under Gundy...
anything could happen
They'll come after us with the same zeal as Missouri and we'll take it as just another game.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 05, 2023, 10:48 AMThey'll come after us with the same zeal as Missouri and we'll take it as just another game.
and proceed to get our collective twats kicked in?