Interesting
https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 31, 2024, 04:14 PMInteresting
https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19)
sounds like a stretch unless that was filmed months ago and they never got around to it because nobody found the bus.
Maybe HY is telling him to shit or get off the pot.
Wasn't the "he didn't know" thing proven to just be internet and radio people making up shit like internet and radio people tend to do?
Or did Muss say something about it?
Quote from: animal on Mar 31, 2024, 04:23 PMsounds like a stretch unless that was filmed months ago and they never got around to it because nobody found the bus.
I think it was actually at least a couple of years old and had been broadcast before.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 31, 2024, 04:14 PMInteresting
https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/PigTrailNation/status/1774539761413189735?t=AN2k9Glbyo-L_aDh94_Q-g&s=19)
https://twitter.com/1starrecruits/status/1774911416258175455?t=brpmUOtVeTVWAcRTNhHmRA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/1starrecruits/status/1774911416258175455?t=brpmUOtVeTVWAcRTNhHmRA&s=19)
This doesn't sound like a very confident answer to me
We just can't avoid stepping on our own dicks.
USA today put out a top ten list of coaches to replace Enfield at USC. Muss wasn't on the list.
However, he was number one on a usc message board list.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 01, 2024, 04:59 PMWe just can't avoid stepping on our own dicks.
Go, stay. I don't give a shit any more.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Mar 31, 2024, 06:39 PMMaybe HY is telling him to shit or get off the pot.
When I watched the latest video from Yurachek, that is pretty much the way I interpret it.
Muss is arguably the only reason Yurachek is still here. He's fucking everything else up, Muss leaving would be the cherry on top.
Our athletic director is retarded.
"He may be leaving, but right now he's still here, he's still our basketball coach..."
Did he really say that?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 01, 2024, 06:24 PM"He may be leaving, but right now he's still here, he's still our basketball coach..."
Did he really say that?
Apparently.
He also said there was not a new contract either.
Can't wait for the meltdown if Muss does leave. :popcorn:
If that happens I will stuff HY into one of those chicken cannons and yeet him at an Airbus.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 01, 2024, 06:33 PMHe also said there was not a new contract either.
that's why I think he was saying "Look Muss, the ball's in your court. Time to fish, or cut bait."
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 01, 2024, 06:36 PMthat's why I think he was saying "Look Muss, the ball's in your court. Time to fish, or cut bait."
I will give Here'sYourCheck credit for that. Takes balls.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 01, 2024, 06:45 PMI will give Here'sYourCheck credit for that. Takes balls.
It tells me he's not going to fire him this season but if he wants to shop himself around then fine. He's not getting more money after the fucking shit show this past season.
Quote from: animal on Apr 01, 2024, 06:48 PMIt tells me he's not going to fire him this season but if he wants to shop himself around then fine. He's not getting more money after the fucking shit show this past season.
Which I have no problem with.
Hunter is a clown who needs to be worried bout NIL and AD things instead of social media content.
Look for more national laughter
https://x.com/aaron_torres/status/1774933300903297060?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 01, 2024, 06:45 PMI will give Here'sYourCheck credit for that. Takes balls.
Did it? By doing it through Twitter in some bizarre roundabout way? Just say it to his face. Yurachek is a clown.
He's been actively looking to get out of here all year. It's been reported multiple times by multiple sources.
The fact that there's people upset over losing a 16-17 coach this last year is like battered wife syndrome.
"Oh sure he hits me but he USED to be good!" LOL get his ass out of here. It's just funny he has no market value and can't go. That should tell all the birdbrains something.
Yurachek knows what he's doing. He's getting ahead of the story and backing douchebag into a corner. If you don't extend your coach that's the next best thing to firing him.
What is certain is Muss will be toxic if he's here next year.
Quote from: red death on Apr 01, 2024, 07:14 PMYurachek knows what he's doing.
That would be a first.
If our AD is communicating with our head basketball coach passive aggressively through Twitter, then the athletic department is FUBARed.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 01, 2024, 06:57 PMDid it? By doing it through Twitter in some bizarre roundabout way? Just say it to his face. Yurachek is a clown.
The article doesn't say he hasn't talked to Muss about the future, just didn't coordinate the video with him. Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't. We shall see.
The reality is Muss is going to fuck us. If you can't see that I don't know what to do.
He doesn't want to be here and they're trying to force his hand.
Our program couldn't be in worse shape. We have nothing. I mean nothing for continuity. Musselman knows it, Yurachek knows it but our fans somehow think you can run off your entire team and magically be successful. The program management is probably the worse I've ever seen and we will be starting over from the absolute bottom.
If he tanks our open window to get a new coach and players in the portal by jumping ship, which he wants to do but can't, then there aren't enough fuck yous in the universe for him.
What they CAN'T do is give him more money and extend him.
But yes, it's going to be anither disaster but it's definitely NOT Yuracheks fault or our board.
The blame for all this
,including the drama and program mismanagement and losing, belongs SOLELY on EricPMusselman.
He sucked at his job and he's acting like a big prick wanting more money, or at the very least pulling a Dale by flirting with other jobs.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 01, 2024, 06:50 PMWhich I have no problem with.
Same here. I really like Muss and hope he stays but I have no problem with HY calling his bluff at this point.
If Muss wants to go to USC, let him.
Go hire amir abdur-rahim or however he spells it.
Fucking let Muss go at this point. Bring on Tang.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 01, 2024, 08:47 PMFucking let Muss go at this point. Bring on Tang.
They 100% are.
Imagine releasing that video knowing your coach is shopping.
He made him have to respond affirmative (which he didn't) or show his true intentions (which he did).
Chess move. Then he gives the university's side in the interview which is you can come back but you're overpaid for the results you gave already.
I promise Eric is pissed big time. Big time. It's brilliant taking the power away from him.
Under .500 in conference 3 out of 5 years. It was nice to see us add some banners, but he had some luck on his side.
The last two years had a lot of stank on them, which we'd all put up with for a bit, given the end results, but you gotta wash that shit off.
He does not have the leverage and it wouldn't be the worst timing for us, with some recent success to sell.
Hunter is on a roll....
https://x.com/joshteeter01/status/1774944165803020554?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
If I had money to just throw at something, I think I'd rather just throw it at a new deer stand. I'd get much more enjoyment from that than throwing money at a bunch of kids who don't know me and routinely will run patterns a yard short of the first down marker or refuse to tackle in a program that perpetually is a dumpster fire.
I got kids of my own that can disappoint me just as easily that I'd rather burn money on.
Quote from: red death on Apr 01, 2024, 07:47 PMThe reality is Muss is going to fuck us. If you can't see that I don't know what to do.
He doesn't want to be here and they're trying to force his hand.
Our program couldn't be in worse shape. We have nothing. I mean nothing for continuity. Musselman knows it, Yurachek knows it but our fans somehow think you can run off your entire team and magically be successful. The program management is probably the worse I've ever seen and we will be starting over from the absolute bottom.
If he tanks our open window to get a new coach and players in the portal by jumping ship, which he wants to do but can't, then there aren't enough fuck yous in the universe for him.
What they CAN'T do is give him more money and extend him.
But yes, it's going to be anither disaster but it's definitely NOT Yuracheks fault or our board.
The blame for all this
,including the drama and program mismanagement and losing, belongs SOLELY on EricPMusselman.
He sucked at his job and he's acting like a big prick wanting more money, or at the very least pulling a Dale by flirting with other jobs.
Little Timmy, where did the bad man touch you?
I love how quickly people convince themselves of an unverifiable certainty. At this point no one knows a damn thing, but they've read all the tea leaves and heard all the unsubstantiated rumors they need to fit the narrative they've invented in their heads.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 02, 2024, 10:16 AMI love how quickly people convince themselves of an unverifiable certainty. At this point no one knows a damn thing, but they've read all the tea leaves and heard all the unsubstantiated rumors they need to fit the narrative they've invented in their heads.
EXACTLY. Damn.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Apr 02, 2024, 09:50 AMLittle Timmy, where did the bad man touch you?
He's got to be an Arkansas State troll. There's no way someone is that bloodthirsty about the entire Arkansas sports administration. He hates them all, just wait until Van Horn drops a series.
It's either that or he's just super weird.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 02, 2024, 10:16 AMI love how quickly people convince themselves of an unverifiable certainty. At this point no one knows a damn thing, but they've read all the tea leaves and heard all the unsubstantiated rumors they need to fit the narrative they've invented in their heads.
I'm certain Muss is a good recruiter and roster builder. I've watched him be out coached and defeated by lesser talented teams many times. I've watched him coach a team to victory over better teams. I watched him coach three McDonald's all Americans to an 8 seed. I watched the abortion that was this year's team.
Take from that what you will about his ability to coach and make your own conclusions about how successful he will be here in the future.
I'm of the opinion there are better X's and O's coaches out there making a lot less money. If he stays, ok. If he leaves, ok, but the roster next year might be awful.
I have no clue about anything else.
This season was historically bad. Worst home losses in history. Certainly underplayed versus the talent level. He's a slimy little piece of shit if he's making any demands whatsoever after this year. Yurachek took a chance in him after balking initially because of red flags.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 02, 2024, 11:29 AMThis season was historically bad. Worst home losses in history. Certainly underplayed versus the talent level. He's a slimy little piece of shit if he's making any demands whatsoever after this year. Yurachek took a chance in him after balking initially because of red flags.
What red flags? That is a genuine question. I can't find any controversies in his past.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 02, 2024, 11:45 AMWhat red flags? That is a genuine question. I can't find any controversies in his past.
Idk but we hired him when HY went back a second time. Supposedly balked initially.
wtf do they want him of all people after the season he just had? If he wants to go let him go. He fucked up an entire season this year and I feel most hung on him and working with the team and his recruiting. We should have been better but the team spiraled into chaos
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 02, 2024, 11:47 AMIdk but we hired him when HY went back a second time. Supposedly balked initially.
No, we slow played him because we were trying for Beard who was at Tech at the time.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 02, 2024, 12:06 PMNo, we slow played him because we were trying for Beard who was at Tech at the time.
correct. muss's agent reached out to arkansas when the job opened up. he never balked. the hesitation was seeing if beard or marshall would take the job.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 02, 2024, 11:45 AMWhat red flags? That is a genuine question. I can't find any controversies in his past.
While at Arkansas there was talk early on that his staff and him were tampering and doing shady shit to get an edge on recruiting. Probably did something similar at Nevada.
That's all more or less legal now or should say for now.
At LSU as an assistant I'm betting he did some red flag worthy shit but nothing that would matter at all now or be worth mentioning.
Historically as a professional coach he's had ups and downs and mainly they were some so so seasons from what I understand.
The red flag could simply have been that the guy can't stay anywhere for more than a few seasons.
Quote from: animal on Apr 02, 2024, 12:12 PMWhile at Arkansas there was talk early on that his staff and him were tampering and doing shady shit to get an edge on recruiting. Probably did something similar at Nevada.
That's all more or less legal now or should say for now.
At LSU as an assistant I'm betting he did some red flag worthy shit but nothing that would matter at all now or be worth mentioning.
Historically as a professional coach he's had ups and downs and mainly they were some so so seasons from what I understand.
The red flag could simply have been that the guy can't stay anywhere for more than a few seasons.
And has to recycle coaches because of personality.
As far as job hopping, he's never been at a job like Arkansas where he has a chance to win a prestigious championship. I know he was in the pros, but he didn't have a team put together that could compete.
He put together a team of morons this year, but I don't expect that to be repeated. If it is, then I'll be ready for him to go.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 02, 2024, 12:42 PMAs far as job hopping, he's never been at a job like Arkansas where he has a chance to win a prestigious championship. I know he was in the pros, but he didn't have a team put together that could compete.
He put together a team of morons this year, but I don't expect that to be repeated. If it is, then I'll be ready for him to go.
This is where I'm at. He has always moved up, and now he's at a school that can be a legitimate basketball power. It's not like he has been hopping from PT HC to P5 HC. 2 of the 3 jobs he allegedly has been interested in would be a lateral move, with Louisville obviously being the more prestigious job. I've always thought a major opening on the West Coast could be what takes him away.
We've had a couple of dumbass "look at me I know something" tweets over the last hour, so I assume we're picking up a commitment soon, Muss is leaving, or HY's behavior is a result of a brain tumor.
Quote from: animal on Apr 02, 2024, 12:12 PMThe red flag could simply have been that the guy can't stay anywhere for more than a few seasons.
This is the one thing I have always wondered about.
What job has he had where he should have stayed for 10+ seasons?
His 2014 stint as associate head coach of Arizona State, I guess.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 02, 2024, 12:42 PMAs far as job hopping, he's never been at a job like Arkansas where he has a chance to win a prestigious championship. I know he was in the pros, but he didn't have a team put together that could compete.
He put together a team of morons this year, but I don't expect that to be repeated. If it is, then I'll be ready for him to go.
Agree with this. It's also hard to find guys who can coach in the tourney, when it matters, and he can.
Broyles had a great quote that a something likeevery time you threaten to leave 10% of the fanbase won't forgive you, it was about Nutt and definitely held true. You can feel it with Muss and I hate it, because he had full fan support.
Quote from: animal on Apr 01, 2024, 06:48 PMIt tells me he's not going to fire him this season but if he wants to shop himself around then fine. He's not getting more money after the fucking shit show this past season.
If he wants to send a message to one of his coaches then call them into your office and tell them.
Doing it on social media ( if that is what this is, which I doubt) is junior high bullshit that will leave you with your dick in your hand when you have to replace that coach.
Be the athletic director not a drama queen.
Still, the video was stupid, his line was more stupid, and explaining it on a podcast from California no one has heard of is even more stupid.
He needs to face the music but really he never to quit talking.
He is running a million dollar business and if your boss did this you would say fuck em,.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 02, 2024, 12:06 PMNo, we slow played him because we were trying for Beard who was at Tech at the time.
And now maybe we can actually get Beard.
Interviewing for USC tomorrow.
Go get Tang.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 02, 2024, 02:11 PMAnd now maybe we can actually get Beard.
if supposedly one of the reasons muss wants to leave is the nil situation, then why would a coach at a school that has a better nil gig going on want to come here?
this doesn't seem to be well though out, imo.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 02, 2024, 02:16 PMInterviewing for USC tomorrow.
Go get Tang.
I'd be more on board for Tang if he'd done better this year, but it was a significant step back from year one. Two years of head coaching experience also worries me.
Would rather have Beard or Wade or even someone like McCasland if he wanted to jump from TTU.
Tang would be a massive gamble. I bet HY makes another run at Sampson. With the football season, then the drama allegedly surrounded the basketball program this year, he knows he needs to make a splash. Sampson isn't a dude that shops himself around. He's old, but he can obviously still coach.
Beard just signed a big extension at Ole Miss, did he not?
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 02, 2024, 02:17 PMif supposedly one of the reasons muss wants to leave is the nil situation, then why would a coach at a school that has a better nil gig going on want to come here?
this doesn't seem to be well though out, imo.
You think Ole Miss' NIL is going toward the basketball program? I highly doubt that.
Beard would likely take a raise and come to Arkansas in my opinion.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 02, 2024, 02:36 PMTang would be a massive gamble. I bet HY makes another run at Sampson. With the football season, then the drama allegedly surrounded the basketball program this year, he knows he needs to make a splash. Sampson isn't a dude that shops himself around. He's old, but he can obviously still coach.
Beard just signed a big extension at Ole Miss, did he not?
Kelvin Sampson is 68, no thanks.
And yes, Beard signed an extension. But he also left UNLV after 6 weeks for Texas Tech...
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 02, 2024, 02:16 PMInterviewing for USC tomorrow.
Go get Tang.
He's gone, IF USC offers. Not sure they will.
Would be a weird situation for him to publically lift his skirt for USC, not get it, and then just... keep working here?
I guess things like that have happened at other schools, and sometimes it works out.
Things don't usually work out for us though, so I would expect it to get very messy and embarrassing before it's all over.
Quote from: HughJasole on Apr 02, 2024, 02:25 PMI'd be more on board for Tang if he'd done better this year, but it was a significant step back from year one. Two years of head coaching experience also worries me.
Would rather have Beard or Wade or even someone like McCasland if he wanted to jump from TTU.
We tried a flash in the pan coach and got Heath. Get someone with experience who knows how to win big games and keep it up in the tournament.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 02, 2024, 02:45 PMWe tried a flash in the pan coach and got Heath. Get someone with experience who knows how to win big games and keep it up in the tournament.
Are we okay with Chris Beard? what's our integrity level vis a vis women beaters?
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 02, 2024, 02:41 PMHe's gone, IF USC offers. Not sure they will.
He's not going out there to interview unless he has an offer in hand.
Beard and Wade are the only names that would move the needle for me.
They have experience in this league, they have won big everywhere they've been, and they coach their ass off and get the most of their talent.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 02, 2024, 02:48 PMAre we okay with Chris Beard? what's our integrity level vis a vis women beaters?
I guess it depends on what you think he actually did.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35311796/texas-coach-chris-beard-fiancee-says-strangle-her
"Chris did not strangle me, and I told that to law enforcement that evening. Chris has stated that he was acting in self-defense, and I do not refute that. I do not believe Chris was trying to intentionally harm me in any way. It was never my intent to have him arrested or prosecuted. We appreciate everyone's support and prayers during this difficult time," she said
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 02, 2024, 02:11 PMAnd now maybe we can actually get Beard.
He's the only one I'd be happy with. Throw the bank at him if Muss leaves.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 02, 2024, 02:51 PMHe's not going out there to interview unless he has an offer in hand.
Probably true, I guess.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 02, 2024, 02:48 PMAre we okay with Chris Beard? what's our integrity level vis a vis women beaters?
My integrity level is "She probably deserved it"
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 02, 2024, 02:58 PMI guess it depends on what you think he actually did.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35311796/texas-coach-chris-beard-fiancee-says-strangle-her
"Chris did not strangle me, and I told that to law enforcement that evening. Chris has stated that he was acting in self-defense, and I do not refute that. I do not believe Chris was trying to intentionally harm me in any way. It was never my intent to have him arrested or prosecuted. We appreciate everyone's support and prayers during this difficult time," she said
Believe all women, not guilty. Come on down, Chris.
Beard would be a move that winners make. He clearly won't be our next coach should Muss depart.
We'll probably end up with Will Wade
Whether he gets the job or not, he's done here. Arkansas folk don't cotton with getting cheated on. It was Nutt's downfall.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 02, 2024, 03:19 PMWe'll probably end up with Will Wade
Also a move winners would make.
Maybe I'm just iffy on him because I couldn't stand him at LSU, but they seemed to have the opposite problem Muss teams have, which is start off on fire and then lose steam towards the end of the year. 1 Sweet 16 appearance in his entire coaching career. He's been out the first weekend every other time he's gone
Don't want Wade at all. Back up the truck for Beard if we're hiring a coach.
If we are looking at coaches with punchable faces, Id take Nate Oates over Will Wade all day long. Both are very sleazy and very punchable.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 02, 2024, 02:48 PMAre we okay with Chris Beard? what's our integrity level vis a vis women beaters?
Hit me again Ike and put some stink on it.
A few things I need to clear up here:
I hate Arkansas State
I support Yurachek
I'm not a weirdo I'm just a guy with a hot wife with a high IQ who sees things clearly. I'm also blunt.
Now, since Musselman is gone and we've already got a coach lined up, I'd like to extend my thanks to Eric for at least 2.5 years of great times. He was good half the time and thanks. I wish him well.
Now let's get rid of the fingernail polish and get behind our new coach.
If we end up with Will Fucking Wade I am turning in my fan card, then moving to Canada to live on a commune with all the anti-Trump celebrities.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 02, 2024, 02:16 PMInterviewing for USC tomorrow.
Go get Tang.
HY should be interviewing head coaches while our head coach is interviewing elsewhere. I'm good with Tang.
Let's go full heel and get Pitino down here.
Don't let your feelings get in the way (yet understandable), Wade can coach. Based on the way football, etc. played out, I don't see us paying more than what we're playing Muss now.
Quote from: red death on Apr 02, 2024, 05:15 PMA few things I need to clear up here:
I hate Arkansas State
I support Yurachek
I'm not a weirdo I'm just a guy with a hot wife with a high IQ who sees things clearly. I'm also blunt.
Now, since Musselman is gone and we've already got a coach lined up, I'd like to extend my thanks to Eric for at least 2.5 years of great times. He was good half the time and thanks. I wish him well.
Now let's get rid of the fingernail polish and get behind our new coach.
I would bet money we don't have a coach lined up. This is Arkansas. Every time we have to hire a coach it turns into a clusterfuck.
Wait, is Muss really gone? Is it a fact he is interviewing at USC?
Soory if i missed it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 02, 2024, 06:16 PMWait, is Muss really gone? Is it a dact he is i terviewing at USC?
Soory if i missed it.
Still just a dumor
The National guys as well as local USC people are reporting it.
Dickey Nutt to Arkansas
He gone.
I mean if he's getting the USC job or not he can't come back now.
IF it's all true, tanking us this year and running away while leaving us with virtually no team would rank pretty high in dirtbag moves.
No love for the helmet at all.
Can DVH also coach roundball? A winning coach is a winning coach. Give him foot ball too.
Seeing that Tang's buyout is 6 million. If that's true take him off the list.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 02, 2024, 06:55 PMSeeing that Tang's buyout is 6 million. If that's true take him off the list.
We may need someone that can make really good deals with kids then.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 02, 2024, 06:48 PMI mean if he's getting the USC job or not he can't come back now.
Yeah Muss is done here. If we somehow got Beard to come I would consider it an upgrade but I have little confidence in that happening.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 02, 2024, 06:54 PMIF it's all true, tanking us this year and running away while leaving us with virtually no team would rank pretty high in dirtbag moves.
No love for the helmet at all.
Now you're getting there.
He's a piece of shit. Everybody but us knew it all along.
And get that horse face wife of his out of here too with her woke garbage gay ass fashion show shit. I got so sick of hearing people tell me how hot she was. She's a 5.
Remember that story about their daughter at school? Mmmhmmm.
They think they're too good for us.
Always have. Get the fuck out of here and I'll never look back.
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 02, 2024, 06:42 PMDickey Nutt to Arkansas
He's got cancer (and I'm not talking about his brother).
Lebron must not be a fan. His son just entered the portal.
If Muss is gone this job is a lot more desirable than it was 6 years ago.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 02, 2024, 06:55 PMSeeing that Tang's buyout is 6 million. If that's true take him off the list.
If a 6 mil buyout is too much for us to overcome we might as well join the SunBelt or AAC. Apologies if your comment was sarcasm.
Dana Fucking Altman part Deaux. Send it up there. :D
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 02, 2024, 02:58 PMI guess it depends on what you think he actually did.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35311796/texas-coach-chris-beard-fiancee-says-strangle-her
"Chris did not strangle me, and I told that to law enforcement that evening. Chris has stated that he was acting in self-defense, and I do not refute that. I do not believe Chris was trying to intentionally harm me in any way. It was never my intent to have him arrested or prosecuted. We appreciate everyone's support and prayers during this difficult time," she said
All that proves is the pimp hand is strong.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 02, 2024, 06:17 PMStill just a dumor
There's plenty of dum and dumor on the last couple of pages.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 02, 2024, 06:48 PMI mean if he's getting the USC job or not he can't come back now.
That's my feeling as well. Its only gonna get ugly(ier) from here.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 02, 2024, 08:25 PMThere's plenty of dum and dumor on the last couple of pages.
How so? It's being reported by every pundit with a keyboard that he's interviewing with USC. Might not be gone this year but for the sake of the program let's hope he is. The skirts been lifted, time to move tf on.
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This is Houston Nutt getting on a plane or not getting on a plane all over again. Only I think there were plenty of morons out there trying to keep him from getting on the plane to Nebraska. And before anyone says it...Nutt's record up to that point wasn't entirely terrible at least by Arkansas standards. Not getting on the plane led to a two year pass and then a couple more years where he pissed away the greatest football talent this state has seen in 40 years if not 50.
I have little doubt that Muss can come back and still be successful here for the same reason you can go from good to bad is the same reason you can go from bad to really good. NIL/portal. We see where programs like Nova and Virginia came up for a while. Then they've faded away. Nova because Jay Wright got out at the right time. In truth there around probably 15 to 20 programs that you could count on to be in the conversation year in and year out. I think our fans including me had got used to to the idea that we had made it back onto that list. We know better now. That's recruiting, coaching, preparation, and development. Perhaps from the head coaches point of view to he's seeing a lack of commitment from the athletic dept, fan base, etc. I think if/when this economic downturn and inflation subside then NIL may be more of a thing regular people are more willing to give to. Not right now. People may be burning their money in other states but I don't think that shit is happening in Arkansas.
And we thought the guy didn't know how to call a timeout.
USC doesn't allow that report to get out if they're not going to hire him and Muss' doesn't go to the interview if he's not going to get hired.
Quote from: TC on Apr 02, 2024, 08:47 PMHow so? It's being reported by every pundit with a keyboard that he's interviewing with USC. Might not be gone this year but for the sake of the program let's hope he is. The skirts been lifted, time to move tf on.
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*sigh*
I miss the old gang.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 02, 2024, 08:15 PMDana Fucking Altman part Deaux. Send it up there. :D
Or a Pelphrey part deaux
I really like Muss and would like to keep him. That said, he's not irreplaceable. Beard would be my first choice
So does muss have a buyout the SC must pay Yuri? There's your money to fire Samtits.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 02, 2024, 09:40 PMSo does muss have a buyout the SC must pay Yuri? There's your money to fire Samtits.
It would be better to have USC make that check out to Razors Edge NIL fund.
Beard's girlfriend was a raging alcoholic and he put her in a headlock in self defense while she was trying to beat and slap the shit out of him. He did nothing wrong.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 02, 2024, 09:40 PMSo does muss have a buyout the SC must pay Yuri? There's your money to fire Samtits.
Thought it was pretty low, intentionally on Muss' part. Idk. Might only be able to afford one tit.
It's been a long time since we've had a coach leave us for another gig, the last coach we hired in that scenario, turned out pretty well.
USC is not a better gig, but maybe it fits him better or gets him a fresh start, closer to his mom, whatever.
He put us where we need to be, in a good position to succeed him and have continued success. Won't hate on the guy for leaving or drawing some bad luck drama divas in the portal, even though he does deserve some criticism of how he handled the in season drama.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 02, 2024, 09:40 PMSo does muss have a buyout the SC must pay Yuri? There's your money to fire Samtits.
Muss / his new school would owe U of A only 1 million buyout when he leaves per ADG.
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Apr 02, 2024, 10:44 PMMuss / his new school would owe U of A only 1 million buyout when he leaves per ADG.
I thought the low buyout was only if USD came calling, as a way to pay respect to his alma mater?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 02, 2024, 09:21 PM*sigh*
I miss the old gang.
We know! You keep repeating it over and over.
Time for the home old fella.
For an honest critique though the play on a spelling error wasn't that clever. You can be clever at times but that wasn't it.
So do we have a good ol' John White Committee to bring in all candidates for the mandatory interview?
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Apr 02, 2024, 10:44 PMMuss / his new school would owe U of A only 1 million buyout when he leaves per ADG.
Yet we gave Pittman a buyout that we apparently can't afford.
Lol we don't deserve nice things.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 03, 2024, 07:21 AMYet we gave Pittman a buyout that we apparently can't afford.
Lol we don't deserve nice things.
On top of that, Muss is a guy other schools might actually come for, Pittman is a guy no one would ever try to hire from us. Yurachek's playing 4d chess though I'm sure.
Muss has been whoring himself out all season after he laid an absolute turd. He's a piece of crap.
At this point, Muss can eat a dick. That doesn't give Yurachek a pass though. He needs to land Beard. He's the only realistic candidate I know will come in and be a winner. I'm not sold at all on Tang or anyone else I've seen in discussions.
The local media have turned on Muss not fertilla's pool boy
Wally sided with pool boy in a word salad that made no sense, he needs to retire.
Pool boy has gotten caught up with being a celebrity and is too concerned with likes and clicks, he has become Jeff long with muscles.
He will probably give Pittman an extension just because he lets him hang in the locker room.
Interesting the pool boy still isn't talking to the in state media.
Maybe he is working on another nil collective reboot again
Clay calls him a basketball guy, did he not watch the women's team? Pool boy keeps his coach while Tennessee fires theirs.
interesting that Muss doesn't have an agent.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1775362084420964789?s=20
He better get that job.
McPherson says he tried to leave three years ago and didn't get the gig he wanted. And the same background issues have kept him from being offered jobs his go around. He torpedoed this season.
We'll hire a good coach. I just went back and watched the Danyelle Mike Singletary interview for a good laugh.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 03, 2024, 07:50 AMAt this point, Muss can eat a dick. That doesn't give Yurachek a pass though. He needs to land Beard. He's the only realistic candidate I know will come in and be a winner. I'm not sold at all on Tang or anyone else I've seen in discussions.
If he does land Beard then it's an absolute win for HY. Muss did great things here but he was never long for Arkansas. Give Beard a legit NIL budget and a real buyout and we're good to go for a long time. We'd be doing the coaching carousel every year with Muss.
We ain't getting Beard. Let that dream die.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 03, 2024, 08:06 AMThe local media have turned on Muss not fertilla's pool boy
Wally sided with pool boy in a word salad that made no sense, he needs to retire.
Pool boy has gotten caught up with being a celebrity and is too concerned with likes and clicks, he has become Jeff long with muscles.
He will probably give Pittman an extension just because he lets him hang in the locker room.
Interesting the pool boy still isn't talking to the in state media.
Maybe he is working on another nil collective reboot again
Clay calls him a basketball guy, did he not watch the women's team? Pool boy keeps his coach while Tennessee fires theirs.
interesting that Muss doesn't have an agent.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1775362084420964789?s=20
Dixon and Pope are both better coaches than Musselman. He better hope they aren't really choices for the USC job.
Why is everyone hating on Muss for interviewing with USC yet are not mad the pool boy interviewed with Texas A&M before they hired Alberts?
I don't have any faith in Yurachek.
If all that's true then what in the world was the point in taking the Arkansas job if he was trying to leave immediately?
It's gonna be really fucking weird if he doesn't get that USC job, which is probably unlikely at this point.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 03, 2024, 09:31 AMWe ain't getting Beard. Let that dream die.
I think that is a long shot too. Wade, Dixon are more likely choices. Pope does nothing for me.
wade has an active show cause thru june of next year. don't see any way arkansas or stankey will let him back into the sec right now.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 03, 2024, 08:06 AMThe local media have turned on Muss not fertilla's pool boy
Wally sided with pool boy in a word salad that made no sense, he needs to retire.
Pool boy has gotten caught up with being a celebrity and is too concerned with likes and clicks, he has become Jeff long with muscles.
He will probably give Pittman an extension just because he lets him hang in the locker room.
Interesting the pool boy still isn't talking to the in state media.
Maybe he is working on another nil collective reboot again
Clay calls him a basketball guy, did he not watch the women's team? Pool boy keeps his coach while Tennessee fires theirs.
interesting that Muss doesn't have an agent.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1775362084420964789?s=20
You can't tell it's BS when they floated Dixon, he ain't leaving TCU.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 03, 2024, 09:45 AMWhy is everyone hating on Muss for interviewing with USC yet are not mad the pool boy interviewed with Texas A&M before they hired Alberts?
This is a good question. Two responses, I guess. First, we don't get as emotionally attached to our AD as we do to a coach. Second, from an AD standpoint, the A&M job would clearly be a step up, at least to me, and you can't fault a man for wanting to step up.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 03, 2024, 10:32 AMwade has an active show cause thru june of next year. don't see any way arkansas or stankey will let him back into the sec right now.
Ah, good point
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 03, 2024, 09:45 AMWhy is everyone hating on Muss for interviewing with USC yet are not mad the pool boy interviewed with Texas A&M before they hired Alberts?
1. It wasn't public knowledge, nor was it broadcast in the media, that Yurachek interviewed with Aggy.
2. A coach doesn't publicly interview for a job unless he's being offered and planning to accept the job. You've been around enough coaching searches to know this.
Quote from: red death on Apr 02, 2024, 05:15 PMA few things I need to clear up here:
I hate Arkansas State
I support Yurachek
I'm not a weirdo I'm just a guy with a hot wife with a high IQ who sees things clearly. I'm also blunt.
Now, since Musselman is gone and we've already got a coach lined up, I'd like to extend my thanks to Eric for at least 2.5 years of great times. He was good half the time and thanks. I wish him well.
Now let's get rid of the fingernail polish and get behind our new coach.
You seem to be htl's alternative account. I've never read one positive thing out of you about the Hogs, you only show up after a loss, you're a douche-bag and most douche-bags are weird, it takes a little bit of intelligence to be a troll(but you don't have enough to be a good troll), claiming to have a wife(much less a hot one) makes you a liar on top of the other shortcomings I've pointed out.
I'll just observe that it is flat out amazing how fast I, and much more of the fanbase it seems, went from being excited about back-to-back Elite 8s and three Sweet Sixteens in a row to literally not giving a damn if the coach carries his ass to USC.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 03, 2024, 11:57 AMI'll just observe that it is flat out amazing how fast I, and much more of the fanbase it seems, went from being excited about back-to-back Elite 8s and three Sweet Sixteens in a row to literally not giving a damn if the coach carries his ass to USC.
I'm only speaking for myself but my "give a damn" meter is based upon who we hire if Muss leaves. Regardless of what some national reporters say, Arkansas basketball coach is a damn good job that should attract high-level coach interest.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 03, 2024, 11:57 AMI'll just observe that it is flat out amazing how fast I, and much more of the fanbase it seems, went from being excited about back-to-back Elite 8s and three Sweet Sixteens in a row to literally not giving a damn if the coach carries his ass to USC.
I've seen it and it played out kinda similar. Beat some good teams and then fell off a cliff. Remember beating highly rankednOU and Texas(the Jimmy Banjos game) and then lying on the court for a good bleed with the Redheaded Hayseed. Only throw in romantic drama amongst teammates and it NOT being the women's team.
Where did this rule of if you interview, you have to leave come from? I swear in both football and basketball over the years, I've seen coaches interview but stay.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 03, 2024, 01:05 PMWhat did this rule of if you interview, you have to leave come from? I swear in both football and basketball over the years, I've seen coaches interview but stay.
How on earth could he come back at this point? Toxic wouldn't even begin to describe it. He's not getting a new contract so he finishes out his current one as a lame duck? Recruiting would be impossible.
Arkansas basketball is not a school you can take an interview with another school and come back.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 03, 2024, 01:08 PMRecruiting would be impossible.
Recruiting is impossible now. Creating a brand new team every single year through portals and one and dones is not recruiting.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 03, 2024, 01:13 PMArkansas basketball is not a school you can take an interview with another school and come back.
Shouldn't be, but until Muss came and took us to or beyond the Sweet 16 three years in a row we had been ass for decades.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 03, 2024, 01:19 PMRecruiting is impossible now. Creating a brand new team every single year through portals and one and dones is not recruiting.
I don't disagree but recruiting is only one consideration. How exactly do you see that playing out with him coming back? Does he continue to fly all over the country doing job interviews until someone hires him? Are pissed off boosters going to give him a nickel for NIL?
Yes muss is hard on staff and has a shelf life of 4 years or less
He has been looking to move on and it was time
The season was a failure
Pool boy handled this poorly.
If the buyout was a $1 mill then pay it and say mutual parting, why was this not done instead of the stupid video?
Why is pool boy worried about what naysayers say? Rabbit ears not good for an ad.
Oh, if he parts with muss then he has to cut neighbors who oddly enough has a higher buyout.
Remember pool boy extended Pittman AND increased his buyout.
Muss didn't need a rope to hang himself yet pool boy falls out the tree trying to hang the rope and has one leg caught.
I fear he will end up hiring Bobby Hurley or some other coach a school is hoping will leave.
Lord help us if usc hires someone else
Muss's buyout is $7mm if we fire him.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 03, 2024, 01:31 PMMuss's buyout is $7mm if we fire him.
he isn't getting fired. three straight sweet 16's and then a bad season doesn't get anyone fired.
who the fuck would come to a school that does that?
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 03, 2024, 02:01 PMhe isn't getting fired. three straight sweet 16's and then a bad season doesn't get anyone fired.
who the fuck would come to a school that does that?
No shit. It was in reference to the prior post saying we should buy out the $1mm and move on.
Don't have any reason to believe this, but it is out there:
https://x.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1775623054128734620?
Beard hasn't signed his extension. Keep this here or permaban.
Nice. Hide your girlfriends
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 03, 2024, 03:40 PMBeard hasn't signed his extension. Keep this here or permaban.
Damnit! Can you stop spoiling shit and start using the Spoiler feature? I really wanted Beard to be the next coach.
If I'm USC, I'm waiting until this weekend to make an announcement. Thursday or Friday at the earliest would get you the biggest bang for your buck.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 03, 2024, 01:05 PMWhere did this rule of if you interview, you have to leave come from? I swear in both football and basketball over the years, I've seen coaches interview but stay.
I tend to agree that it's not impossible. At the end of the day if he comes back then they either blow it off like it never happened or publicly come out and say everything is just fine and dandy here's more money and a longer pretend contract that both parties can exit from after next season.
I want to be a wealthy source some day.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 03, 2024, 04:02 PMDamnit! Can you stop spoiling shit and start using the Spoiler feature? I really wanted Beard to be the next coach.
THERE IS ZERO POSSIBILITY WE GET BEARD NOW. ZERO. LESS THAN ZERO. AT LEAST -460 DEGREES.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 03, 2024, 01:31 PMMuss's buyout is $7mm if we fire him.
I heard $10MM.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 03, 2024, 01:27 PMYes muss is hard on staff and has a shelf life of 4 years or less
He has been looking to move on and it was time
The season was a failure
Pool boy handled this poorly.
If the buyout was a $1 mill then pay it and say mutual parting, why was this not done instead of the stupid video?
Why is pool boy worried about what naysayers say? Rabbit ears not good for an ad.
Oh, if he parts with muss then he has to cut neighbors who oddly enough has a higher buyout.
Remember pool boy extended Pittman AND increased his buyout.
Muss didn't need a rope to hang himself yet pool boy falls out the tree trying to hang the rope and has one leg caught.
I fear he will end up hiring Bobby Hurley or some other coach a school is hoping will leave.
Lord help us if usc hires someone else
Why would we have to fire Neighbors? It's women's basketball...maybe three people give a shit about it. Save the money for sports that matter.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 03, 2024, 05:20 PMWhy would we have to fire Neighbors? It's women's basketball...maybe three people give a shit about it. Save the money for sports that matter.
That's shit you fix when you don't have anyone else to fire and you've got an itchy trigger finger.
Quote from: animal on Apr 03, 2024, 05:35 PMThat's shit you fix when you don't have anyone else to fire and you've got an itchy trigger finger.
Yes. Or you let him coach one more year and let his contract expire.
We've been ass for basically forever in that sport. What's one more year going to hurt?
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1775659463359222208?
Now this is interesting...
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 03, 2024, 06:23 PMhttps://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1775659463359222208?
Now this is interesting...
What you see a white guy 4 star that probably shoots it really well and immediately think this cat won't play for Muss?
Quote from: animal on Apr 03, 2024, 06:44 PMWhat you see a white guy 4 star that probably shoots it really well and immediately think this cat won't play for Muss?
He saw what happened to Pinion and said "Fuck this. I'm out."
Actually, his handlers probably made the decision for him.
I never thought Muss would be at the UA for long. NW Arkansas is nice, but most college towns have a large city close by. Fayetteville doesn't. And no, Tulsa doesn't count as a large city.
I figure at some point his wife would want to move somewhere more....cosmopolitan.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 03, 2024, 11:50 AMYou seem to be htl's alternative account. I've never read one positive thing out of you about the Hogs, you only show up after a loss, you're a douche-bag and most douche-bags are weird, it takes a little bit of intelligence to be a troll(but you don't have enough to be a good troll), claiming to have a wife(much less a hot one) makes you a liar on top of the other shortcomings I've pointed out.
I'm sorry dude. I forget sometimes how lucky I am.
Dont get triggered or seethe. Life isn't fair and I'm sure you're doing fine. We can't all get hot women or drive exotic sports cars.
I forget sometimes. Accept my apology.
Quote from: red death on Apr 03, 2024, 08:17 PMI'm sorry dude. I forget sometimes how lucky I am.
Dont get triggered or seethe. Life isn't fair and I'm sure you're doing fine. We can't all get hot women or drive exotic sports cars.
I forget sometimes. Accept my apology.
And you brag just like HTL. Probably the same poor sap posting.
I think they're all boondoggle. Recently I've been thinking about starting a poll on which current poster is likeliest to be his alt account.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 03, 2024, 08:13 PMI never thought Muss would be at the UA for long. NW Arkansas is nice, but most college towns have a large city close by. Fayetteville doesn't. And no, Tulsa doesn't count as a large city.
I figure at some point his wife would want to move somewhere more....cosmopolitan.
He has a sister in DFW and is down here all the time, though.
I assumed it was enough to get that fix.
Quote from: animal on Apr 03, 2024, 06:44 PMWhat you see a white guy 4 star that probably shoots it really well and immediately think this cat won't play for Muss?
More interesting to me that you have two players that are great recruits for a program like USC between him and Bronny (admittedly overrated) not waiting to find out who the coach is.
You'd think most kids would want to know.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 03, 2024, 09:22 PMMore interesting to me that you have two players that are great recruits for a program like USC between him and Bronny (admittedly overrated) not waiting to find out who the coach is.
You'd think most kids would want to know.
This is probably a weird thing to bring up but the senior bowl or maybe it was some other all star game the kids often would exchange helmet decals. I always thought it was weird and unbecoming. How could you join a college, represent it for x number of time and then dap it up with guys that wanted to take your head off a month earlier. Anyway that's the mentality though now days only now these kids can switch teams like they are crowd surfing all the while many getting decent pay days to do it.
About the only thing we haven't seen and I fully expect it at some point is the college super team of free agents. Easier to do in basketball. Take some of the nation's best returning players and toss them all on a roster. We may see a natty come out of a weird place just because a group of talented kids just opted to get together and do this thing. For now nothing is really changing it's still your best programs and your best coaches winning the big game. That's Danny Hurley until proven wrong.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 03, 2024, 09:22 PMMore interesting to me that you have two players that are great recruits for a program like USC between him and Bronny (admittedly overrated) not waiting to find out who the coach is.
You'd think most kids would want to know.
Well that is another part of this announcement by that kid-- surely he knows by now if it is Muss. And if it is, means he didn't want to play for him. I don't really think they are waiting to "find out who the coach is"-- they know.
Wouldn't be a surprise to see those kids follow the coach that was recruiting them, much as it wouldn't be surprising to see muss's recruits follow him.
Quote from: Borenutz on Apr 03, 2024, 10:32 PMWouldn't be a surprise to see those kids follow the coach that was recruiting them, much as it wouldn't be surprising to see muss's recruits follow him.
And our new coach's recruits follow him. We just need to hope our guy was recruiting to that level and not D2
Quote from: BASS on Apr 01, 2024, 08:32 PMIf Muss wants to go to USC, let him.
I went back and found the first (most recent spurt, there were earlier speculations) mention of USC.
It was on April Fool's Day.
Several days and several pages later,
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adds a bit of fuel to the fire
https://twitter.com/StephenABC30/status/1775565994322465149?t=wKXfekbR8TD2ts-iC6e5tg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/StephenABC30/status/1775565994322465149?t=wKXfekbR8TD2ts-iC6e5tg&s=19)
Honestly I'm surprised we've been able to keep that guy as an assistant.
I thought if he left it would be for the west coast. If his momma is like most, she's been nagging the shit out of him to get closer.
Maybe Smart is slow playing Fresno to see what pops here.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 03, 2024, 09:20 PMI think they're all boondoggle. Recently I've been thinking about starting a poll on which current poster is likeliest to be his alt account.
Ol' boondoggle.
*Fans suck, and its all fans' fault everything sucks
*The PTB want to horde money and access for themselves, PTB want to keep us down
*Anybody that supports Arkansas loves mediocrity and will always be lil' ol'Arky
You realize he is like Beetlejuice right? I think you can only say his name one more time before chaos ensues.
I think we all saw things this past season to damage our confidence that Muss can actually fucking coach. How many times is the guy going to get butt fucked by a zone defense before he figures that shit out? Weird transition...Otherwise I'd say Smart is not in his class but is a solid dude. Fresno would probably be a good spot for him.
There is basically very little in recruiting news which seems a bit odd. Muss hasn't publicly denied interest in USC to my knowledge. This feels like we're waiting tell the final four which is where a lot of these deals are made. It's like a coaching convention. So anyway news on that front could come soon.
I think the type of coach we want hasn't changed. We want an ambitious and talented charismatic guy. Otherwise we should hire another Mike Anderson or a Darrell Walker and just be happy if/when we make some noise now and then. That's not what people want though.
These buyouts like 6 million for Tang really shouldn't be a big deal for a program raking in the money that it's doing. We are depending a great deal on private donors for this shit apparently though and it seems like there isn't much willingness. Makes me wonder where all the tv revenue money goes?
One thing is fairly certain or at least I'd think so...you don't let an accomplished coach walk out of the building unless you have something in the holster. Perhaps that's Beard, Good odds our board will poo poo it though.
Quote from: animal on Apr 04, 2024, 08:34 AMI think we all saw things this past season to damage our confidence that Muss can actually fucking coach. How many times is the guy going to get butt fucked by a zone defense before he figures that shit out? Weird transition...Otherwise I'd say Smart is not in his class but is a solid dude. Fresno would probably be a good spot for him.
There is basically very little in recruiting news which seems a bit odd. Muss hasn't publicly denied interest in USC to my knowledge. This feels like we're waiting tell the final four which is where a lot of these deals are made. It's like a coaching convention. So anyway news on that front could come soon.
I think the type of coach we want hasn't changed. We want an ambitious and talented charismatic guy. Otherwise we should hire another Mike Anderson or a Darrell Walker and just be happy if/when we make some noise now and then. That's not what people want though.
These buyouts like 6 million for Tang really shouldn't be a big deal for a program raking in the money that it's doing. We are depending a great deal on private donors for this shit apparently though and it seems like there isn't much willingness. Makes me wonder where all the tv revenue money goes?
One thing is fairly certain or at least I'd think so...you don't let an accomplished coach walk out of the building unless you have something in the holster. Perhaps that's Beard, Good odds our board will poo poo it though.
Out talented Oklahoma at every roster position. Lost by 20+ on a neutral court that was 2/3 hog fans in attendance.
Gave up something like 56 points in the paint that game, never switched from man to a zone and forced them to beat us shooting from outside.
That's jr high level basketball IQ stuff.
That's pretty damning in my book.
But what do I know, I'm just an internet retard.
Muss strength as an on court coach is his ability to scheme defensively and take the other teams best players out of the game or limiting them to a below average night. We didn't do that this year and the offense was still average to below average like it has been every year under Muss.
I'm still trying to figure out how we beat Duke.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 04, 2024, 11:13 AMI'm still trying to figure out how we beat Duke.
I chalk it up to adrenaline. Any decent player can play out of his mind for one game. We just happen to have 8 guys doing it all on the same night.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 04, 2024, 11:24 AMI chalk it up to adrenaline. Any decent player can play out of his mind for one game. We just happen to have 8 guys doing it all on the same night.
And that came after half the team got made at each other's boy friends in the Caribbean.
Getting buttfucked by zone defenses is just what one does when they are coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks. I don't remember the last time we looked like we knew what to do. We just had to rely on someone like Notae deciding to do things on his own.
Baye Fall is out. Not sure why we even recruited him.
https://x.com/USCHoopsdotcom/status/1775943164580528230?
Looks official
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 04, 2024, 12:52 PMhttps://x.com/USCHoopsdotcom/status/1775943164580528230?
Looks official
fuck him bye. Have fun paying those California taxes on your millions
just for clarification that's not usc's official twitter.
could very well happen, but i think one of the national guys would be the one to break something like that.
Flights came in from LA this morning to Fayetteville. Does that happen much?
The tracking shows the flight went into XNA. I would've thought they would go into FYV with a private jet.
Leaving us with three players on the roster, a trash heap of a season, and a string of record setting losses at BWA.
Assuming that tweet is real, that's a pretty impressive amount of reasons to hate a coach.
I'm more surprised they offered him the job than I am he's leaving.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 04, 2024, 01:26 PMLeaving us with three players on the roster, a trash heap of a season, and a string of record setting losses at BWA.
Assuming that tweet is real, that's a pretty impressive amount of reasons to hate a coach.
Who are the three we have left, at least for now?
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 04, 2024, 01:32 PMWho are the three we have left, at least for now?
Battle, Mark and Brazile.
So what happens with the transfer that just committed?
Bye. Bring us Beard.
Fuck him. Bring on the next coach. I hope he sucks at usc
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 04, 2024, 01:43 PMBye. Bring us Beard.
If we are poaching from within the SEC, I would prefer Alabama's coach.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 04, 2024, 01:53 PMIf we are poaching from within the SEC, I would prefer Alabama's coach.
He just signed a massive extension and probably has his eyes on Kentucky when Cal gets canned next year.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 04, 2024, 01:53 PMIf we are poaching from within the SEC, I would prefer Alabama's coach.
We have a way better shot at Beard and I don't even know if we have a shot at him.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 04, 2024, 01:55 PMWe have a way better shot at Beard and I don't even know if we have a shot at him.
Well that's just great.
I hope we don't choke away this opportunity to land Beard.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 04, 2024, 01:26 PMLeaving us with three players on the roster, a trash heap of a season, and a string of record setting losses at BWA.
Assuming that tweet is real, that's a pretty impressive amount of reasons to hate a coach.
He went from 2 Elite 8s and a Sweet 16 to Chad level suck in one season. That's a feat. It's almost like you'd have to be asleep at the wheel to be that bad. But that was pretty evident when you let a quitter quit twice in one season and let him back on the team.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 04, 2024, 01:37 PMBattle, Mark and Brazile.
I count 2 1/2. Knee Management Brazile you really can't count on for a full season.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 04, 2024, 01:37 PMBattle, Mark and Brazile.
We currently have 6. Battle, Mark, Brazile, the 2 incoming freshmen and the uMass portal transfer.
There is no chance that Elohim or the Umass transfer end up here
Quote from: bogeyfree on Apr 04, 2024, 02:10 PMThere is no chance that Elohim or the Umass transfer end up here
Probably not. That's why I said "currently".
If it's Beard, they better go all Hulk Hogan/NWO and have him walk out of the tunnel at Baum tonight with Voodoo Child playing.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 01:58 PMI hope we don't choke away this opportunity to land Beard.
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It's shocking after this year our coach left us to get hired elsewhere over us firing him for all the chaos and shit
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 04, 2024, 02:20 PMIt's shocking after this year our coach left us to get hired elsewhere over us firing him for all the chaos and shit
Saved money.
Hunter's bosses will take that into consideration.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 04, 2024, 02:18 PMIf it's Beard, they better go all Hulk Hogan/NWO and have him walk out of the tunnel at Baum tonight with Voodoo Child playing.
Bah gawd that's Chris beard's music!!!
I'm ready to be a villain again.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 02:32 PMBah gawd that's Chris beard's music!!!
I'm ready to be a villain again.
You could be Owen Hart.
He's gone his wife just posted on Twitter
Did she? Because... https://twitter.com/DanyelleSargent
Instagram, which is practically not the same thing, however... she did post the goodbye.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 04, 2024, 01:37 PMBattle, Mark and Brazile.
Battle is entering portal. down to 2 left.
Seeing lots of stories now, the phrase "boiled any limited chemistry" is one I've never heard before and had to read a couple of times.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/reports-eric-musselman-to-leave-arkansas-will-become-usc-s-next-basketball-coach/ar-BB1l5yMJ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=eeacbdad4a7c487aa9b23b7e750a4886&ei=18
Quote from: Guardrail on Apr 04, 2024, 02:53 PMBattle is entering portal. down to 2 left.
Dammit. Any of you fuckers have any eligibility left?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 04, 2024, 02:53 PMDid she? Because... https://twitter.com/DanyelleSargent
Instagram, which is practically not the same thing, however... she did post the goodbye.
social media meh
Silver lining, would have sucked harder if he did this after an elite 8. After the year we've just had and his conduct, I ain't nearly as mad.
When retarded grown ups started finding their daughter on Instagram and asking her who was frolicking in whose mud pit... that was about when I decided they might think we're all weird.
Yurachek really needs a win here, football program is in a shambles and this whole thing was a debacle.
He really needs to get Beard or another proven winner.
GTFO with the Tang stuff.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 04, 2024, 02:57 PMWhen retarded grown ups started finding their daughter on Instagram and asking her who was frolicking in whose mud pit... that was about when I decided they might think we're all weird.
They might want to rethink LA's demographic then.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 04, 2024, 02:58 PMThey might want to rethink LA's demographic then.
Are you saying we should have shit on the sidewalks more?
For uninformed, who is "Tang?"
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 04, 2024, 03:00 PMFor uninformed, who is "Tang?"
He did not go to space, by god.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 04, 2024, 02:53 PMDid she? Because... https://twitter.com/DanyelleSargent
Instagram, which is practically not the same thing, however... she did post the goodbye.
Unfollowed. Don't let the door hit ya....
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 04, 2024, 02:58 PMThey might want to rethink LA's demographic then.
they are libtards so have fun with all that.
Muss had been trying to leave since year 2. We weren't gonna juice his buyout even more after that historic turd of a season.
Tang would be really good.
Battle to the transfer portal. What are the odds that Mark or Brazile follow him out the door?
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 03:07 PMTang would be really good.
Why?
Explain to me why he's not our next Stan Heath?
Well whoever comes is going to have the pleasure of recruiting a whole entire basketball team!
We're back to 2001 again when the Nolan fiasco happened.
Oh well, I for one am excited to get behind a new coach. I believe Hunter has his man already but the good news is if he doesn't I'm prepared for it after being a Razorback fan for 40 years.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 04, 2024, 02:56 PMDammit. Any of you fuckers have any eligibility left?
I could probably run point better than what we had this year.
Any Gruden sightings?
Just hold a finger up and pretend we're running plays. No difference.
Quote from: red death on Apr 04, 2024, 03:16 PMWell whoever comes is going to have the pleasure of recruiting a whole entire basketball team!
We're back to 2001 again when the Nolan fiasco happened.
Oh well, I for one am excited to get behind a new coach. I believe Hunter has his man already but the good news is if he doesn't I'm prepared for it after being a Razorback fan for 40 years.
I wonder how a coach sells that to a portal player.
"I expect big things next year. We don't exactly have any players at the moment, but I like our chances."
With NIL/portal, any coach who can recruit can build a team from scratch in one to two seasons.
Watching this happen will be interesting.
I'm Apork on Tang.
This is why you the portal sucks. Sure you can say Muss elevated the program but we have nothing to offer from that to build on. We have an empty roster.
And on the 30th anniversary of our distant NC.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 04, 2024, 03:24 PMI'm Apork on Tang.
Thirded. Would rather have a hot up and comer.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Apr 04, 2024, 03:34 PMThirded. Would rather have a hot up and comer.
Huh? He's coming off year two was kissing two key players. Coached under Drew. Can recruit black kids to Manhattan, Kansas.
How could anyone be sold on Tang or Wade? We need to get Beard.
Well yeah everyone wants Beard.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 03:36 PMHuh? He's coming off year two was kissing two key players. Coached under Drew. Can recruit black kids to Manhattan, Kansas.
Some of our players were kissing, too.
I bet the right hire can get some of our portal guys to unportal. Namely Blocker...although I doubt he's the only one.
My UALR fan friends said Beard wasn't real personable, but he definitely was jealous of the support that UA had. Maybe that one year in Arkansas will help
He had the kid from Clarksville at TT. I remember him making a comment that kids from Arkansas are built different.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 03:07 PMMuss had been trying to leave since year 2. We weren't gonna juice his buyout even more after that historic turd of a season.
Tang would be really good.
Dear HTL,
When you started bashing Muss in January I gave you tons of shit for it because I believed he could turn it around.
I was wrong. You were right.
TC
Sooo, he is it official that he is the new USC coach? Been away a while today.
Quote from: TC on Apr 04, 2024, 04:14 PMDear HTL,
When you started bashing Muss in January I gave you tons of shit for it because I believed he could turn it around.
I was wrong. You were right.
TC
I stand on business.
So is it official or just some incel on twitter reporting still?
Quote from: animal on Apr 04, 2024, 04:18 PMSo is it official or just some incel on twitter reporting still?
Check his Twitter.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/usc-hires-eric-musselman-as-coach-trojans-poach-arkansas-boss-in-shock-move-to-replace-andy-enfield/
Can't wait to watch our stranglehold D under Beard.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 04, 2024, 04:23 PMCheck his Twitter.
Nobody giving this clown a pat on the back on the way out. Thanks for our 8th place finishes? Sure.
Also HY has to make a really hard hitting home run hire or his cock is on the block come oh about Jan 2025
Also #2
For you old people...every year the roster is nearly bare. This is not really that huge of an issue. The right hire will actually bring in new money and new NIL dollars. Meanwhile the wrong hire invites pessimism and despair = fucking nothing burger in NIL
Hunter confirms.
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I do believe this shit was set up from way back. I've been seeing this path to USC since about mid-season.
There may have been some soft interest in SMU but that may have been someone that knew SMU had something to do with this and it did if Enfield took SMU opening USC for Muss.
Also I'm coming around to really believe this season was tanked on purpose.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 04, 2024, 04:30 PMHunter confirms.
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2nd paragraph he shoulda said I'm contacting the names on my list to see who's interested... Not a national search has begun. He sounds unprepared.
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Beard #1, if not Beard Will Wade.....sounds like woopig is Trey Buddy's source.
Good day to be a Razorback fan.
I'd think it would be a few days if the hire is Beard. He's going to play Ole Miss against us for the best deal.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 04, 2024, 05:06 PM2nd paragraph he shoulda said I'm contacting the names on my list to see who's interested... Not a national search has begun. He sounds unprepared.
We just have to pretend that was a canned response and that he's already fielding calls. Anyone with a brain would have hung out the help wanted sign the instant his boy went to go interview elsewhere.
Altman wouldn't be on the long list for head janitor at UA if I'm making decisions.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1776002044261798008
Or what about taking Cal from ky jelly if beard says no?
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Quote from: TC on Apr 04, 2024, 05:29 PMAltman wouldn't be on the long list for head janitor at UA if I'm making decisions.
at least he's made the tournament 7 years in a row
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 04, 2024, 05:34 PMhttps://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1776002044261798008
Or what about taking Cal from ky jelly if beard says no?
No thanks.
I thought Will Wade couldn't coach in the SEC for a while.
Is Will Wade really that good of a coach? I really don't know.
Quote from: TC on Apr 04, 2024, 04:53 PMYou should stand on a bonfire.
I'll stand over your lifeless body after I rip your head off and shit down your esophagus.
Will Wade is a punchable motherfucker but I'd be ok with him being OUR punchable motherfucker.
I would love to be wrong about Beard. If HY has been keeping the bait in front of him this whole time then that's a winning move.
https://x.com/ericpmusselman/status/1775988763069386801?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
They have made amazing advances with ChatGpt.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 04, 2024, 06:01 PMhttps://x.com/ericpmusselman/status/1775988763069386801?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
They have made amazing advances with ChatGpt.
"Please enjoy the dumpster fire I set and am leaving behind"
The fact that we haven't named a new coach yet has to mean that it's someone still coaching. I bet it's Dan Hurley.
/s
Surely we can get a plane off the ground for him.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 04, 2024, 06:12 PMSurely we can get a plane off the ground for him.
https://twitter.com/W00PIGS000IE/status/1775967086902165516?t=5MTsFqOxpM3BOL2O-I9bGQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/W00PIGS000IE/status/1775967086902165516?t=5MTsFqOxpM3BOL2O-I9bGQ&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 04, 2024, 06:16 PMhttps://twitter.com/W00PIGS000IE/status/1775967086902165516?t=5MTsFqOxpM3BOL2O-I9bGQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/W00PIGS000IE/status/1775967086902165516?t=5MTsFqOxpM3BOL2O-I9bGQ&s=19)
That's close to LSUFreek's level of work.
Goodman just tweeted that Beard is reported to be the top target.
FWIW, my source who told me that there were two large donors who told HY that he shouldn't have given Pittman the early extension and to not come asking them to write a big check if he wanted to fire Pittman, told me today that Beard will likely be our new coach and that it will likely happen soon. We shall see.
First, fuck Mussleman. What a slimy way to leave a program. Fucking piece of shit.
Second, I said months ago that I'd take Beard over Muss straight up. If we get Beard then I'll be happy.
Third, we ain't getting beard.
Chris Beard would cut down some nets here. No, I'm not crazy or anything.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 04, 2024, 06:44 PMFirst, fuck Mussleman. What a slimy way to leave a program. Fucking piece of shit.
Second, I said months ago that I'd take Beard over Muss straight up. If we get Beard then I'll be happy.
Third, we ain't getting beard.
This is correct.
Tang? We aren't going to the moon!
Tang would be a bummer. He just seems like a goofy dude.
Beard as a coach is a home run hire if he can stay planted long enough.
No telling what kind of raise Beard will get from this at Ole Miss.
My sources are telling me it's Darrell Walker. Keep this here.
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 04, 2024, 07:09 PMNo telling what kind of raise Beard will get from this at Ole Miss.
My sources are telling me it's Darrell Walker. Keep this here.
I don't think you're serious about Walker, but you're probably closer to correct.
I've got it on good authority that the Muss family was upset by how quick Arkansas fans turned on a coach who was coaching shitty and also how quick those same fans turned on shitty players who were sucking each others dicks.
Keep this here. My source isn't legit.
Or just players sucking each others' shitty dicks
I don't have a problem with Tang. He's a bit old for a guy with only two years as a head coach but he was at Baylor and I reckon the right hand man down there for a long time. I think he'd be good for us knowing the ground in Texas...but I would consider him a solid #2 option if Beard is truly on the table.
I can't imagine HY is going to let this go unanswered. I figure we are going to be throwing haymakers.
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 04, 2024, 07:09 PMNo telling what kind of raise Beard will get from this at Ole Miss.
My sources are telling me it's Darrell Walker. Keep this here.
My UALR fan friends would be delighted if we hired Walker. They hate him.
Beard would be an upgrade from Muss. Tang and Wade would be downgrades.
make Mike Budenholzer say no
I fear another "Yes Sirrrrr!" moment upcoming.
Pittman is gonna coach basketball too?
Quote from: Bogey7 on Apr 04, 2024, 07:38 PMPittman is gonna coach basketball too?
Well, no. I see HY swinging and missing all the way down to some yokel like Lassotits, just to save money.
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1776044626035810365?s=42
Beard will be announced tomorrow.
Chris Beard is going to rebuild this program into a national championship contender.
This is a great time to be a Razorback fan.
Also a giant cock showing to Ole Miss and the nation that we are a premier basketball program.
We are back!
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 04, 2024, 07:43 PMhttps://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1776044626035810365?s=42
Fuck him too.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 07:47 PMBeard will be announced tomorrow.
You forgot -Porkatarian out...
Fuck everybody associated with Mussleman. I'm glad he is gone but how he did it. Fuck that guy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 04, 2024, 08:00 PMFuck everybody associated with Mussleman. I'm glad he is gone but how he did it. Fuck that guy.
Looking to get out before the season even started. Tried to leave after every season. He's a shitbird.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 04, 2024, 07:43 PMhttps://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1776044626035810365?s=42
Can you just flip around like that? Don't you sign anything when you transfer? A commitment? A contract? Anything? Is there at least a buyout or a draft pick to be named later?
This portal thing is the shits.
We don't want that Yankee ass honkey.
Get everything associated with the former shithead out of here.
He was probably just coming for the gang bang.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 04, 2024, 08:04 PMCan you just flip around like that? Don't you sign anything when you transfer? A commitment? A contract? Anything? Is there at least a buyout or a draft pick to be named later?
This portal thing is the shits.
Well, I would assume he hasn't even set foot on campus. I mean, other than his Johnny Be Good wild weekend.
Honestly, it's hard to blame him with all the other departures.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 04, 2024, 08:04 PMCan you just flip around like that? Don't you sign anything when you transfer? A commitment? A contract? Anything? Is there at least a buyout or a draft pick to be named later?
This portal thing is the shits.
Nada. Nothing is contractual for transfers.
https://utahstateaggies.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/great-osobor/9843
entered the portal and on name alone we need this guy
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 04, 2024, 05:35 PMat least he's made the tournament 7 years in a row
Meh, he left us at the alter, and I dont care that it was 25 years ago.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 04, 2024, 05:57 PMI'll stand over your lifeless body after I rip your head off and shit down your esophagus.
You better pack a sack lunch.
Garland county trash gonna Garland county trash.
Quote from: TC on Apr 04, 2024, 08:31 PMYou better pack a sack lunch.
Garland county trash gonna Garland county trash.
I may be Garland County trash, but don't lump us all together!
So what does Chris Beard think about motorcycles? I'm thinking we bring him in for an interview and have Bobby pick him up at the airport.
"It's a two seater, this blonde cheerleader is going to have to sit on your lap."
Put one of those spiked collars around her neck though.
Beard is a damn good coach and keeps the women in check (too soon?).
I appreciate Muss getting us back to being relevant and in the hunt.
Muss could have left better but in the long run it doesn't matter.
Well, now my UALR friends are saying HY wanted to hire Beard before Muss. But Beard was in the final four for Texas Tech, and HY wouldn't wait.
Beard would make hiring petrino in 2007 level giddy. I assumed he was a pipe dream.
I feel like Beard is the new version of Bill Self. He is a guy we could have/should have hired several times. We don't need to miss on him like we did Self. Beard is the guy who could be here fifteen years and go to a couple or three final fours.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 04, 2024, 09:44 PMWell, now my UALR friends are saying HY wanted to hire Beard before Muss. But Beard was in the final four for Texas Tech, and HY wouldn't wait.
That's dumb. You talk to his agent and wait. What did muss accomplish in those few days that Beard would not have?
It has to be Beard now right? Beard or bust.
Too much smoke and if he says no, that's not gonna go over well.
Is Beard at the final four?
I'm having "we're hiriing Illinois' Bill Self" flashbacks. That was a done deal they said and then poof - We ended with Stan Heath.
I now understand that Beard is the clear favorite, but they may have to interview a few more before the decision is announced.
Ronnie Brewer is the interim coach. The entire staff is going with Muss.
Quote from: Hognrock on Apr 04, 2024, 09:32 PMBeard is a damn good coach and keeps the women in check (too soon?).
I appreciate Muss getting us back to being relevant and in the hunt.
Muss could have left better but in the long run it doesn't matter.
Agreed that it doesn't matter, turnover was gonna be shit regardless.
It would be fantastic though if HY can get it wrapped up quickly enough that the new coach has time to convince Battle to stay.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 04, 2024, 09:49 PMI feel like Beard is the new version of Bill Self. He is a guy we could have/should have hired several times. We don't need to miss on him like we did Self. Beard is the guy who could be here fifteen years and go to a couple or three final fours.
Post #1964
I now believe Beard will be hired. Just have to jump through a couple of hoops first.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 04, 2024, 10:20 PMI now believe Beard will be hired. Just have to jump through a couple of hoops first.
What hoops? Is Bobbit involved? The BOT?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 04, 2024, 10:26 PMWhat hoops? Is Bobbit involved? The BOT?
They will interview a couple of others, for some reason. Just to make it look good.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 04, 2024, 08:00 PMFuck everybody associated with Mussleman. I'm glad he is gone but how he did it. Fuck that guy.
This. Exactly this.
IF it is Beard then maybe he can bring some of Ole Miss' arriving portals with him to at least be able to fill out half a lineup.
Quote from: TC on Apr 04, 2024, 08:31 PMYou better pack a sack lunch.
Garland county trash gonna Garland county trash.
It is humorous and sad at the same time. 2/3 of this board would beat the everloving shit out of HTL.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 04, 2024, 10:32 PMThey will interview a couple of others, for some reason. Just to make it look good.
Yep, you can't just hire a white guy without some lip service to diversity :)
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Apr 04, 2024, 11:18 PMYep, you can't just hire a white guy without some lip service to diversity :)
tHInK of ThE LawsUITS!!!
I greatly enjoyed that three year run of relevance but fuck that midget ass muthafucka for burning everything down on the way out. This dude quit months ago, and you could see it in how he coached this season. Leaving us for a school that has never given a shit about BB? LULZ, enjoy non-relevance in that city and those long flights to the other side of the country during conference play. A mid-week game against Rutgers, just means more, y'all. With all the gheyness in this program, what we really need now is a Beard to closet that shit most riki-tik.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 04, 2024, 09:59 PMRonnie Brewer is the interim coach.
With no games and no players on the roster, shouldn't be too tough a gig.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 04, 2024, 09:50 PMThat's dumb. You talk to his agent and wait. What did muss accomplish in those few days that Beard would not have?
Muss was probably telling him he needed to move or else he was headed to his other dream job at whatever the fuck school was open at the time.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 04, 2024, 09:59 PMRonnie Brewer is the interim coach. The entire staff is going with Muss.
Oh no, how will we ever replace...his son?
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 05, 2024, 06:06 AMOh no, how will we ever replace...his son?
Not sure what you are asking but Ron Jr has been on the staff for a few years so he's the natural choice as interim overseeing the transition to the Beard staff....I mean whomever we hire's staff.
You know that if we and USC make the tourney next year, we will be matched up in the 1st round or the 2nd if we both win in the 1st.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 05, 2024, 06:06 AMOh no, how will we ever replace...his son?
Quote from: animal on Apr 05, 2024, 06:46 AMNot sure what you are asking
He was making a sarcastic comment about losing Musselman's whole staff including such a valuable resource in Matthew.
No one told Muss?
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He portaled once he found out Muss was getting the job.
lol Bronny just like his dad
An interesting piece to hiring Beard is he has Wes Flanagan on staff. I would assume he brings him along.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 05, 2024, 07:14 AMYou know that if we and USC make the tourney next year, we will be matched up in the 1st round or the 2nd if we both win in the 1st.
Yeah, the Hogs will be placed in the West Regional with games played in Los Angeles.
Quote from: RPL on Apr 05, 2024, 09:24 AMYeah, the Hogs will be placed in the West Regional with games played in Los Angeles.
NCAA will get discounts on our hotels because they'll pay for full nights.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 05, 2024, 07:37 AMNo one told Muss?
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That's damning.
Lebraun needs to stfu most of the time, but it's hilarious here.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 05, 2024, 07:14 AMYou know that if we and USC make the tourney next year, we will be matched up in the 1st round or the 2nd if we both win in the 1st.
USC in the 1st our traditional matchup with North Carolina in the 2nd.
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1776252884008452343
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 05, 2024, 10:04 AMhttps://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1776252884008452343
I assume on a Tuesday.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 05, 2024, 10:10 AMI assume on a Tuesday.
Hopefully there is no rappelling.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 05, 2024, 10:10 AMI assume on a Tuesday.
This eclipse is screwing everything up.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 08:20 AMAn interesting piece to hiring Beard is he has Wes Flanagan on staff. I would assume he brings him along.
Like Flanagin, Ted Crass was on Beard's UALR staff in a non-coaching role. He has since gone on to be a JUCO head coach and is currently an assistant at Abiline Christian. His dad is on the BOT.
Beard
Wade
Tang.
Those are the choices in that order. If we don't get Beard, I don't see Wade turning it down.
The carrot is $3.2 million in "new" NIL money to rebuild the team.
I'm starting a Woopig collective to sponsor a player. They have to wear the old school t-shirt in shootaround though.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 10:48 AMI'm starting a Woopig collective to sponsor a player. They have to wear the old school t-shirt in shootaround though.
If they can pull a pack of Camels out of a pocket and light one up then I'll pitch in extra
I'm willing to match the first $69 raised.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 05, 2024, 10:45 AMBeard
Wade
Tang.
Those are the choices in that order. If we don't get Beard, I don't see Wade turning it down.
The carrot is $3.2 million in "new" NIL money to rebuild the team.
That's the right order but I think there is a pretty wide gap from 1 to 2 on the list.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 05, 2024, 11:05 AMIf they can pull a pack of Camels out of a pocket and light one up then I'll pitch in extra
in camo
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 10:48 AMI'm starting a Woopig collective to sponsor a player. They have to wear the old school t-shirt in shootaround though.
Need to add in must get slobber hog tattoo on arm
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 08:20 AMAn interesting piece to hiring Beard is he has Wes Flanagan on staff. I would assume he brings him along.
As much as we have heard the Flanagan's have said negative about the U of A, it would be hilarious to watch him sing praises while recruiting.
Quote from: jethro on Apr 05, 2024, 12:06 PMAs much as we have heard the Flanagan's have said negative about the U of A, it would be hilarious to watch him sing praises while recruiting.
Exactly. That said, I think he would do good keeping in state kids.
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sources-tang-one-of-two-finalists-for-the-arkansas-job/article_ac829cdc-82da-5097-b84e-269141976d11.html
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 12:33 PMhttps://themercury.com/k_state_sports/sources-tang-one-of-two-finalists-for-the-arkansas-job/article_ac829cdc-82da-5097-b84e-269141976d11.html
"He's one of two finalists, but there could be others in the mix!"
Good hedge
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 12:36 PM"He's one of two finalists, but there could be others in the mix!"
Good hedge
The situation is fluid. Porkatarian out
I was right then things changed.
But, I don't think Arkansas can get Beard from Ole Miss.
If we announce Beard today I'm dipping into my top shelf bourbon. If we don't announce Beard today, I'm dipping into my top shelf bourbon.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 05, 2024, 12:41 PMI was right then things changed.
But, I don't think Arkansas can get Beard from Ole Miss.
Why? They have nine NCAA tournament appearances in program history.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 12:44 PMWhy? They have nine NCAA tournament appearances in program history.
So?
Past history counts for shit. NIL is all that matters today
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 05, 2024, 12:46 PMSo?
Past history counts for shit. NIL is all that matters today
I really don't think he was planning on staying at Ole Miss for very long when he took the job but we'll see.
Beard turned us down.
No cartwheels for me. That's probably a good thing, I would have injured myself and had to call in to work Monday.
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1776305927987380631?s=46&t=6uNMWI6PFOkxijXNhEuvSA
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1776305955724214485?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Gay
We got him a raise and extension lol.
There can be no doubt that Beard is eyeing a better gig than Ole Miss. I think Arkansas checks off that box for him. Wait a year and it could be a much different story...could be why HY didn't get all excited when Muss was chasing another gig.
The Kentucky gig will be open within a year or two one has to think. That's going to go to Oats, Beard, or maybe a younger guy like Golden. UCLA had a stinker this season too so another year of that and Cronin will be sent packing and they'll be a major player for a coach. There are other programs that are a bit stale like Nova, Virginia. Michigan State will open whenever Izzo is done which will probably happen soon enough.
This is a good year to shop for a coach...next season I could see it being much different. Can anyone even name the Syracuse coach? I can't.
I don't really want Pooty Tang as our next coach
It's been real Razorback basketball. I'll be back when we get an AD who can actually hire and keep a good coach.
of course. ole miss supposedly up their nil game.
and tang? 57 years old with two years of head coaching. 50/50 this will be heath 2.0
Hunter needs to go now. He is a disaster of an AD.
The pool boy had one job and it seemed he had it, but no. He failed.
https://youtu.be/a01QQZyl-_I?si=8X8D8wIvFqqukbjW
Quote from: Piggielicious on Apr 05, 2024, 01:02 PMHunter needs to go now. He is a disaster of an AD.
if the guy doesn't want to come to arkansas, why is it his fault?
the boosters are the ones putting up the money, all this talk of them putting up big nil and huge salary was just bullshit it seems.
Tang is 60 with two seasons as a head coach and one of them sucked.
Quote from: animal on Apr 05, 2024, 12:39 PMThe situation is fluid. Porkatarian out
We're definitely hiring Tang, unless we hire someone else.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 01:13 PMTang is 60 with two seasons as a head coach and one of them sucked.
Perfect for Arkansas then
The "sources" that said we had Beard are now saying Jerome Tang is a the top candidate? I'll take that with a grain of salt because obviously they don't know shit.
Well, shit.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 05, 2024, 01:18 PMThe "sources" that said we had Beard are now saying Jerome Tang is a the top candidate? I'll take that with a grain of salt because obviously they don't know shit.
A TOP CANDIDATE
NOT THE TOP
Might as well post it on Indeed. Weed through all the correctional officers and food prep specialists with Sonic experience and HY might find someone he's willing to give a shot. Isn't that how he got Pittman?
tang lifted his skirt for every opening out there. begged a louisville program coming off their two worst seasons in memory and got passed on.
if the chatter is true that it was down to him and beard, then as a fan i have to hope he is the shit. but losing muss only to hire this guy, sure doesn't seem like a win to me at this point.
Give me Wade over Tang.
I don't really have a source just someone who claims to have one. He might or might not. Anyway, he says Hunter tried to put a non-compete in the contract and it pissed Beard off. Don't know, but it sort of sounds like par the course around here with HY. He always seems to find a way to fuck up a sure thing.
Wade is stuck in hell for another year most likely or he would have already been taken.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 05, 2024, 01:22 PMtang lifted his skirt for every opening out there. begged a louisville program coming off their two worst seasons in memory and got passed on.
if the chatter is true that it was down to him and beard, then as a fan i have to hope he is the shit. but losing muss only to hire this guy, sure doesn't seem like a win to me at this point.
Agree. I'd rather have Will Wade over Tang
Quote from: animal on Apr 05, 2024, 01:19 PMA TOP CANDIDATE
NOT THE TOP
"Now targeting Jerome Tang" sounds like top candidate to me...
https://twitter.com/mimscourtney/status/1776307029197324385?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 05, 2024, 01:22 PMtang lifted his skirt for every opening out there. begged a louisville program coming off their two worst seasons in memory and got passed on.
if the chatter is true that it was down to him and beard, then as a fan i have to hope he is the shit. but losing muss only to hire this guy, sure doesn't seem like a win to me at this point.
Muss lifted his skirt for Louisville too.
Ole Miss is our daddy now. They even managed to win a College World Series. Better football program. And a basketball coach who would rather be there than here.
How is Yurachek doing a good job again? Because we're good at softball or something?
Tang has a $6 million buyout. So, we couldn't come up with $11 or $12 million to get rid of Tittboss in the sport that brings in 90 percent of the revenue but we'll spend half that much on a buyout to get a basketball coach who has two years head coaching experience?
HY is the worst AD ever.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 01:28 PMMuss lifted his skirt for Louisville too.
so that makes the situation better?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 05, 2024, 01:28 PMOle Miss is our daddy now. They even managed to win a College World Series. Better football program. And a basketball coach who would rather be there than here.
yep. all the talk about how we will spend more than ole miss, on salary or nil, is hilarious.
Bad news. The Waltons and Stephens are pushing Walker
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 01:31 PMHow is Yurachek doing a good job again? Because we're good at softball or something?
We have Jeff Long to thank for how well our women's sports are doing. He hired all the coaches.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 01:34 PMBad news. The Waltons and Stephens are pushing Walker
The Waltons are not pushing anyone lol.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 01:34 PMBad news. The Waltons and Stephens are pushing Walker
Thus proving again that they are too retarded to pick a good coach.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 01:31 PMHow is Yurachek doing a good job again? Because we're good at softball or something?
He has a good baseball coach that was hired 15 years before he arrived.
I would rather squeeze whatever Sampson has left in the tank and then roll the dice on his son instead of getting Tang. Goddamn that would be such a bummer if he's the guy.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 01:31 PMHow is Yurachek doing a good job again? Because we're good at softball or something?
Soccer, don't forget soccer. :suicide:
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 12:51 PMBeard turned us down.
Wait, how can he ever show his face in Oxford again?
I have it on good authority that once you flirt or interview with another school, you can't come back.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 05, 2024, 01:39 PMWait, how can he ever show his face in Oxford again?
I have it on good authority that once you flirt or interview with another school, you can't come back.
lol, exactly. ole miss fans must be rioting at the ad's office.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 05, 2024, 01:23 PMI don't really have a source just someone who claims to have one. He might or might not. Anyway, he says Hunter tried to put a non-compete in the contract and it pissed Beard off. Don't know, but it sort of sounds like par the course around here with HY. He always seems to find a way to fuck up a sure thing.
Stupid, if he leaves for another job (only what 14 that are better?) it is because he is winning.
Sad. Pool boy is a doofus. Who is the Pittman esque hire now?
This is embarrassing that a coach at a program that has been to the NCAAT 8 times ever is staying there.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 01:34 PMBad news. The Waltons and Stephens are pushing Walker
It's times like these I thank the good lord I'm not Rick B.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 05, 2024, 01:33 PMTang has a $6 million buyout. So, we couldn't come up with $11 or $12 million to get rid of Tittboss in the sport that brings in 90 percent of the revenue but we'll spend half that much on a buyout to get a basketball coach who has two years head coaching experience?
HY is the worst AD ever.
Combine a AD that is horrible with major donors who have no clue about coaching, and you get the clusterfuck that UA continually finds itself in.
Will Wade's job to turn down. Tang is the backup plan.
As much as I hate Wade, he's better than Tang IMO.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 01:50 PMIt's times like these I thank the good lord I'm not Rick B.
Rick B doesn't care about who the coach is as long as he's on tv.
Let's hope DVH doesn't retire any time soon.
Wade is a good regular season coach but hasn't done much in postseason play. He's just good enough to make me tolerate losing Muss.
Beard is the guy who would have been the upgrade.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 05, 2024, 02:22 PMRick B doesn't care about who the coach is as long as he's on tv.
What an ROI he gets on his fandom.
Nolan. He's only 82. Bring him in. Better than the shit I will dig up.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Apr 05, 2024, 02:23 PMLet's hope DVH doesn't retire any time soon.
Absolutely. Because if he does HY will screw up the hire and baseball will slip into mediocrity like football and probably basketball now.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 05, 2024, 02:31 PMNolan. He's only 82. Bring him in. Better than the shit I will dig up.
I was thinking this earlier today. Just bring that mother fucker in and let him knock some reality into some of these fucking idiot kids. If he wants to come to practice on his horse well so be it
It's being talked about elsewhere that HY tried to force a non-compete on Beard. On the one hand I sort of get it, on the other it seems like HY has absolutely no idea how important this hire was. Get fucking Beard on board before our program disintegrates. If he wants to go to Kentucky in year or two, that means he did well and we're in a position to go get anothwr stud. Or, we can fiddle fuck around, make a mediocre hire, and circle the damned drain for another half decade.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 05, 2024, 02:43 PMIt's being talked about elsewhere that HY tried to force a non-compete on Beard. On the one hand I sort of get it, on the other it seems like HY has absolutely no idea how important this hire was. Get fucking Beard on board before our program disintegrates. If he wants to go to Kentucky in year or two, that means he did well and we're in a position to go get anothwr stud. Or, we can fiddle fuck around, make a mediocre hire, and circle the damned drain for another half decade.
Yes, give him whatever the fuck he wants.
Go find the winningest coaches in d2 or d3 before you offer Wade or Tang.
I'd take Amir Abdur-Rahim over Wade or Tang.
What is Otzelberger's buyout?
Get rid of a coach with a losing record.
Hire an NIT coach. :thumb_up:
UPGRADE CONFIRMED
Wade would work but I just have feeling Tang would be a disaster. Is that guy going to excite the NIL money? I don't think so. That was the thing about Beard. Everyone would have agreed he was the best available and the excitement and the NIL money would have followed.
It really can't be overstated as to how big a fuck up this is.
Yeah, I could see this falling all the way to Darrel Walker.
Say Beard went to Kentucky in 2 years, or he went to Alabama after Oats went to Kentucky.
There's no way either scenario would make us look bad.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 01:50 PMIt's times like these I thank the good lord I'm not Rick B.
Why? It must be easy on the stress levels to be tickled pink just to have a seat and take in the event with good company. It would be like giving a mental patient a lobotomy/electro shock combo and watching the never ending smiles as they eat slop and poop themselves.
What about Brad Underwood, Bucky McMilan
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 05, 2024, 02:43 PMIt's being talked about elsewhere that HY tried to force a non-compete on Beard.
If this is true, and we end up with someone like Tang, then HY is a fucking moron and needs to be shown the door.
You don't put ultimatums on your best option when you are running a company like Razorback Basketball.
Go hire the best. Whatever happens two years from now is not relevant.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 03:15 PMIf this is true, and we end up with someone like Tang, then HY is a fucking moron and needs to be shown the door.
You don't put ultimatums on your best option when you are running a company like Razorback Basketball.
Go hire the best. Whatever happens two years from now is not relevant.
Yes.
Is it too late to fire hy and go get Beard anyway?
We are getting skulldrug on Twitter by Ole Miss fans. I think I hate Yurachek as much as Mr. Integrity at this point.
I don't hate HY yet. This hire is critical.
I always believed Arkansas had the money to compete with anyone. I was wrong.
We are nickel slot machine players that have wandered into a high stakes poker room. We need to find another casino.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 03:17 PMWe are getting skulldrug on Twitter by Ole Miss fans. I think I hate Yurachek as much as Mr. Integrity at this point.
And all we can do is wipe our faces off and thank them for the refreshment.
Telling your top candidate he has to sign a NC has nothing to do with money.
Not buying the noncompete stuff. I sure as hell hope not.
Surly HY isn't that terrible of a business man.
But then, I have worked for and with enough CEOs that anything is possible.
Are we now the Woo Tang Clan?
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 03:22 PMNot buying the noncompete stuff. I sure as hell hope not.
me neither. I think some folks just need to blame someone or won't except the fact that it probably came down to money.
beard wasn't going to bail inside of 3 years unless he had to choke a bitch again.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 03:23 PMSurly HY isn't that terrible of a business man.
But then, I have worked for and with enough CEOs that anything is possible.
Yurachek gave Pittman a buyout that we couldn't afford to pay out when no one would have ever tried to hire him from us. He's terrible.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 03:21 PMTelling your top candidate he has to sign a NC has nothing to do with money.
Is that the excuse we're going with this time?
Ole Miss hired the football coach we wanted and now they're keeping the basketball coach we wanted. They also beat us in recruiting (NIL). Oh well, Arkansas will kick their ass in baseball! (This year)
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 05, 2024, 03:26 PMAre we now the Woo Tang Clan?
more like Pootie Tang
I would take a flyer on Wade if he's eligible to return to the SEC over Tang, but I don't have a problem with Tang.
Walker has "paid his dues" but isn't going to excite anyone and certainly not make NIL dollars flow. I don't know that Tang would either...but either is a solid coach IMO. Walker is absolutely your basketball version of YES SIR!!!! I would legit be calling Mike Anderson back if that's what we are going to do.
https://x.com/keithcarterom/status/1776330100914475049?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Arkansas guy dragging his dick across HY's face.
Somebody edited Shaka's wiki.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 04:20 PMhttps://x.com/keithcarterom/status/1776330100914475049?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
That's about as much nut dragging as one man can do to another without fists being thrown. We used to have a bunch of guys on the team that had a lot of experience with that sort of thing.
And we're going to come back with Darrell Walker or Jerome Tang? Nah dawg. HY won't make it the rest of the year.
Fuck where this is heading. My give a shit towards Razorback athletics has been heading down since the motorcycle crash. I got a temporary shot with both Pittman and Musselman. Both can fuck off with HY.
The DVH led baseball team is all we have left. Once he is gone, there will be nothing left and I'll most likely be gone too.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 04:46 PMFuck where this is heading. My give a shit towards Razorback athletics has been heading down since the motorcycle crash. I got a temporary shot with both Pittman and Musselman. Both can fuck off with HY.
The DVH led baseball team is all we have left. Once he is gone, there will be nothing left and I'll most likely be gone too.
It started going downhill after the crash, the NIL/transfer portal era has pushed me to the edge of the cliff. I'm about done with all of this shit.
I'm pretty sure we have the worst AD in the country. Holy fuck.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 04:23 PMSomebody edited Shaka's wiki.
I would be fine with Shaka. He flamed out at Texas but he's done really well at Marquette.
For some reason Zimmerman mentioned McDermott from Creighton this morning in an interview with Sully. Completely out of left field name to mention, but I wouldn't hate that either if it's even possible.
We are not getting a coach from anything other than a quad 4 school. Maybe even D3. We are so irrelevant it isn't even funny.
https://x.com/cadesmith_3/status/1776306624908423313
Ole Miss fans are having fun.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 04:56 PMhttps://x.com/cadesmith_3/status/1776306624908423313
Ole Miss fans are having fun.
Hey they've earned it. They have a program willing to pony up. Clearly we don't. Doesn't sound like Wade is even in the mix which is probably more about nobody wanting to touch him right now than anything else.
Now is our big chance to get Billy Gillespie though.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 03:17 PMWe are getting skulldrug on Twitter by Ole Miss fans. I think I hate Yurachek as much as Mr. Integrity at this point.
we deserve it. our dumbfuck "insiders" and blue check shitbirds spent all day yesterday spiking the ball because they thought it was done. you can prolly blame HY for that too because Im sure he told all the money people it was in the bag.
putting that smarmy video out to push out muss, only to publicly get turned down AGAIN, by the same school that just did this to you in football is all time fuck up. unless he lucks into somebody like he did muss hes done and he took us down with him
I can't help but wonder how this would have played out if Enfield didn't take the SMU job.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 05:03 PMI can't help but wonder how this would have played out if Enfield didn't take the SMU job.
We do it all again next year if Muss had legitimately mentally checked out of this season.
Someone needs to meme this shit up with Ole Miss and Razorback logos
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 05:03 PMI can't help but wonder how this would have played out if Enfield didn't take the SMU job.
'Sources also indicated Musselman had expressed some level of interest in openings or potential openings at Ohio State, Minnesota, Oklahoma State, San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and SMU.'
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 04:55 PMWe are not getting a coach from anything other than a quad 4 school. Maybe even D3. We are so irrelevant it isn't even funny.
I don't know if it's that we're irrelevant, but coaches that we'd want at P5 schools aren't just bolting to come to Arkansas, or any other non Blue blood school, mostly. Muss left because he probably knew his stock was on the decline here, and he wanted to be out west. Got a little name recognition here with some success in the postseason and had the opportunity. I really doubt he was going to Louisville. Michigan, Louisville both dipped down into the mid majors to replace their coaches. We are likely to do the same with either someone like Wade, who has baggage or Tang who has limited experience or quite possibly someone else that doesn't have a ton of P5 success.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 05:07 PM'Sources also indicated Musselman had expressed some level of interest in openings or potential openings at Ohio State, Minnesota, Oklahoma State, San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and SMU.'
I would love to know why he apparently was itching to leave so badly.
Not going to win the press conference, but Josh Schertz at Indiana State was a power in DII and then has ISU trending upward. Of course he is currently being linked to St. Louis and I'm sure their (or our own) AD would convince him to not look at us.
Head coaching record
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Lincoln Memorial Railsplitters (South Atlantic Conference) (2008–2021)
2008–09 Lincoln Memorial 14–14 8–8 5th
2009–10 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 9–7 4th
2010–11 Lincoln Memorial 27–3 16–2 1st NCAA DII First Round
2011–12 Lincoln Memorial 26–6 14–4 2nd NCAA DII Second Round
2012–13 Lincoln Memorial 25–6 15–3 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2013–14 Lincoln Memorial 28–3 20–2 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2014–15 Lincoln Memorial 30–3 21–1 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2015–16 Lincoln Memorial 34–3 22–0 1st NCAA DII Runner-Up
2016–17 Lincoln Memorial 30–6 19–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
2017–18 Lincoln Memorial 32–2 20–0 1st NCAA DII Sweet Sixteen
2018–19 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 14–6 3rd
2019–20 Lincoln Memorial 32–1 22–0 1st NCAA DII Canceled
2020–21 Lincoln Memorial 19–4 14–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
Lincoln Memorial: 337–69 (.830) 214–39 (.846)
Indiana State Sycamores (Missouri Valley Conference) (2021–present)
2021–22 Indiana State 11–20 4–14 9th
2022–23 Indiana State 23–13 13–7 5th CBI Quarterfinals
2023–24 Indiana State 32–7 17–3 1st NIT Runner-Up
Indiana State: 66–40 (.623) 34–24 (.586)
Total: 403–109 (.787)
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 05, 2024, 01:00 PMI don't really want Pooty Tang as our next coach
Well, now that we whiffed on the Bearded clam, it may be the best we can get.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 05, 2024, 05:13 PMI would love to know why he apparently was itching to leave so badly.
Listen to his USC press conference. Sure kept making references to "leadership." I'm guessing as captain obvious he and HY weren't jiving lately.
I think Tang is probably a solid choice if it's even possible to build a program like Baylor has. He spent damn near 20 years there before going to K-state. He's not going to wow you or "win the press conference" or regale you with tells from the league...he probably would do well with recruiting though. He's not a legit TOP 10 coach, probably would be closer to Mike Anderson than Muss. He's a bit old for the head coaching experience. So yes there are concerns.
I really liked the way K-state played in 22/23 where he had a little Arlen Bowers type point guard that looked like he was fight any fuckin body. They had some strong guards and forwards and could body up on some dudes but weren't "athletes"...but actual basketball players. I'm not scared of Tang at all but would rather take a flyer on Wade. If Wade can take a shit program like McNeese and go to the dance then he can recruit and coach.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 05, 2024, 05:15 PMNot going to win the press conference, but Josh Schertz at Indiana State was a power in DII and then has ISU trending upward. Of course he is currently being linked to St. Louis and I'm sure their (or our own) AD would convince him to not look at us.
Head coaching record
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Lincoln Memorial Railsplitters (South Atlantic Conference) (2008–2021)
2008–09 Lincoln Memorial 14–14 8–8 5th
2009–10 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 9–7 4th
2010–11 Lincoln Memorial 27–3 16–2 1st NCAA DII First Round
2011–12 Lincoln Memorial 26–6 14–4 2nd NCAA DII Second Round
2012–13 Lincoln Memorial 25–6 15–3 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2013–14 Lincoln Memorial 28–3 20–2 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2014–15 Lincoln Memorial 30–3 21–1 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2015–16 Lincoln Memorial 34–3 22–0 1st NCAA DII Runner-Up
2016–17 Lincoln Memorial 30–6 19–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
2017–18 Lincoln Memorial 32–2 20–0 1st NCAA DII Sweet Sixteen
2018–19 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 14–6 3rd
2019–20 Lincoln Memorial 32–1 22–0 1st NCAA DII Canceled
2020–21 Lincoln Memorial 19–4 14–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
Lincoln Memorial: 337–69 (.830) 214–39 (.846)
Indiana State Sycamores (Missouri Valley Conference) (2021–present)
2021–22 Indiana State 11–20 4–14 9th
2022–23 Indiana State 23–13 13–7 5th CBI Quarterfinals
2023–24 Indiana State 32–7 17–3 1st NIT Runner-Up
Indiana State: 66–40 (.623) 34–24 (.586)
Total: 403–109 (.787)
This is the kind of coach I want. After beard of course.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 05:07 PM'Sources also indicated Musselman had expressed some level of interest in openings or potential openings at Ohio State, Minnesota, Oklahoma State, San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and SMU.'
Yeah but USC is the only one that was open on the West Coast. I think he'd have a hard time going from here to one of those schools.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 05, 2024, 04:46 PMFuck where this is heading. My give a shit towards Razorback athletics has been heading down since the motorcycle crash. I got a temporary shot with both Pittman and Musselman. Both can fuck off with HY.
The DVH led baseball team is all we have left. Once he is gone, there will be nothing left and I'll most likely be gone too.
Giving up season tickets was the best decision I ever made. Very freeing. Now in September I watch while bobbing in the lake. Just marginally emotionally invested.
Hell, I think I'd rather take a flyer on Smart than Tang.
According to a friend that supports KState. Tang is staying.
Keep dis hur
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 05, 2024, 05:15 PMNot going to win the press conference, but Josh Schertz at Indiana State was a power in DII and then has ISU trending upward. Of course he is currently being linked to St. Louis and I'm sure their (or our own) AD would convince him to not look at us.
Head coaching record
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Lincoln Memorial Railsplitters (South Atlantic Conference) (2008–2021)
2008–09 Lincoln Memorial 14–14 8–8 5th
2009–10 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 9–7 4th
2010–11 Lincoln Memorial 27–3 16–2 1st NCAA DII First Round
2011–12 Lincoln Memorial 26–6 14–4 2nd NCAA DII Second Round
2012–13 Lincoln Memorial 25–6 15–3 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2013–14 Lincoln Memorial 28–3 20–2 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2014–15 Lincoln Memorial 30–3 21–1 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2015–16 Lincoln Memorial 34–3 22–0 1st NCAA DII Runner-Up
2016–17 Lincoln Memorial 30–6 19–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
2017–18 Lincoln Memorial 32–2 20–0 1st NCAA DII Sweet Sixteen
2018–19 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 14–6 3rd
2019–20 Lincoln Memorial 32–1 22–0 1st NCAA DII Canceled
2020–21 Lincoln Memorial 19–4 14–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
Lincoln Memorial: 337–69 (.830) 214–39 (.846)
Indiana State Sycamores (Missouri Valley Conference) (2021–present)
2021–22 Indiana State 11–20 4–14 9th
2022–23 Indiana State 23–13 13–7 5th CBI Quarterfinals
2023–24 Indiana State 32–7 17–3 1st NIT Runner-Up
Indiana State: 66–40 (.623) 34–24 (.586)
Total: 403–109 (.787)
Hire this guy!
The wheels were set in motion for Enfield to SMU and Muss to USC. Enfield is not a terrible coach and they let him walk out of the building and got their man.
We let our guy walk out of the building, finger fuck at least two programs and still had to go play hide and go fuck ourselves. Lack of leadership may be a real issue but I think that's code for "didn't get what I wanted" Muss wanted BWA improvements, more money, and likely better NIL assurances.
I had wondered if we let him walk because there are things about what went on that didn't please certain big money people (gay stuff/losing) letting the same player quite 2 or 3 times and come back...
Anyway yeah HY had an opportunity and he blew it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 05:24 PMHell, I think I'd rather take a flyer on Smart than Tang.
Yeah, never got it rolling at Texas but still young enough to figure it out. Scares me he's another MA though.
Hunter Yuracheeks
Sounds like Tang used us for raise and extension too. Hunter Yuracheeks!
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 05, 2024, 05:16 PMWell, now that we whiffed on the Bearded clam, it may be the best we can get.
He also has a 6 million buyout. We can't afford to buy out Colbeertits but drop 6mill on a tall glass of meh? Sounds about right.
Now now guys Darrell Walker was the guy all along. :))
Quote from: animal on Apr 05, 2024, 05:34 PMNow now guys Darrell Walker was the guy all along. :))
I really hate this timeline.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 05, 2024, 05:15 PMNot going to win the press conference, but Josh Schertz at Indiana State was a power in DII and then has ISU trending upward. Of course he is currently being linked to St. Louis and I'm sure their (or our own) AD would convince him to not look at us.
Head coaching record
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Lincoln Memorial Railsplitters (South Atlantic Conference) (2008–2021)
2008–09 Lincoln Memorial 14–14 8–8 5th
2009–10 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 9–7 4th
2010–11 Lincoln Memorial 27–3 16–2 1st NCAA DII First Round
2011–12 Lincoln Memorial 26–6 14–4 2nd NCAA DII Second Round
2012–13 Lincoln Memorial 25–6 15–3 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2013–14 Lincoln Memorial 28–3 20–2 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2014–15 Lincoln Memorial 30–3 21–1 1st NCAA DII Second Round
2015–16 Lincoln Memorial 34–3 22–0 1st NCAA DII Runner-Up
2016–17 Lincoln Memorial 30–6 19–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
2017–18 Lincoln Memorial 32–2 20–0 1st NCAA DII Sweet Sixteen
2018–19 Lincoln Memorial 20–9 14–6 3rd
2019–20 Lincoln Memorial 32–1 22–0 1st NCAA DII Canceled
2020–21 Lincoln Memorial 19–4 14–3 1st NCAA DII Final Four
Lincoln Memorial: 337–69 (.830) 214–39 (.846)
Indiana State Sycamores (Missouri Valley Conference) (2021–present)
2021–22 Indiana State 11–20 4–14 9th
2022–23 Indiana State 23–13 13–7 5th CBI Quarterfinals
2023–24 Indiana State 32–7 17–3 1st NIT Runner-Up
Indiana State: 66–40 (.623) 34–24 (.586)
Total: 403–109 (.787)
Do this and I'm good. I still want yurachek gone.
Former players getting on the tang train. Reeks of the Pittman hire if it happens
Things aren't turning around for Razorbacks athletics til we sacrifice Rick B.
In all the coaching news, how can we overlook ChatGPT, Sports Illustrated Head Writer, column that Devonte Davis is setting up for his triumphant return from the portal back to Arkansas.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/razorbacks-davis-musselman-return?fbclid=IwAR33tlIp1gMlrFEhTnDukkQ8s51OKFhNVEASdVyaWquHxAe0pDoSf3PzIPw_aem_AQW0XChdnGbUxUSwJ-RHZSZC7ItyXa7FBF7jGA53rWhsirEQEl3nN-Gbo56YfLWjhSqBDfmicVTgNwB6x_8loeEx
We are Career High U, along with Contract Extension U.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 05:29 PMYeah, never got it rolling at Texas but still young enough to figure it out. Scares me he's another MA though.
Hell, I'm talking Keith not Shaka. He ain't leaving Marquette.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 05, 2024, 05:49 PMIn all the coaching news, how can we overlook ChatGPT, Sports Illustrated Head Writer, column that Devonte Davis is setting up for his triumphant return from the portal back to Arkansas.
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/razorbacks-davis-musselman-return?fbclid=IwAR33tlIp1gMlrFEhTnDukkQ8s51OKFhNVEASdVyaWquHxAe0pDoSf3PzIPw_aem_AQW0XChdnGbUxUSwJ-RHZSZC7ItyXa7FBF7jGA53rWhsirEQEl3nN-Gbo56YfLWjhSqBDfmicVTgNwB6x_8loeEx
filming dancing during practice. You know what dancing leads to.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 05:55 PMHell, I'm talking Keith not Shaka. He ain't leaving Marquette.
Lololol
Some like to say that Arkansas coaching searches are like a box of chocolates.
I believe they're more like that jelly bean game where you don't know if you're about to bite into something that tastes like pomegranate or moldy cum sock... and 87% of the jelly beans are moldy cum sock flavored.
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1776374737553535181?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Why not take a look at Coby Karl? NBA pedigree was head coach in the G-league for a bit...think he's an assistant in Philly right now. Will probably get an NBA head coaching gig pretty soon though.
It's TJ Cleveland.
G-League head coaches are the best untapped resources.
They coach on a very high level; are hungry to prove themselves; often have to make adjustments to their approach when key players get called up; and are tremendous in-game thinkers.
Can start them with less pay and they will kill themselves to prove they can do it. Also, they know real talent when they see it and understand how rosters should be built.
I don't know why they haven't been poached much from the big leagues.
Quote from: animal on Apr 05, 2024, 06:14 PMWhy not take a look at Coby Karl? NBA pedigree was head coach in the G-league for a bit...think he's an assistant in Philly right now. Will probably get an NBA head coaching gig pretty soon though.
Shit, Corliss has a better resume than him.
I really think this could be real trouble for Yurachek. He can't fuck this up.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 05, 2024, 06:22 PMI really think this could be real trouble for Yurachek. He can't fuck this up.
That's the silver lining here. We can at least get rid of that clown when he inevitably fucks this up.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 06:19 PMShit, Corliss has a better resume than him.
don't know about that.
Karl won a G-league title last season and is highly regarded as one of the best young NBA assistants. Corliss is a career NBA assistant coach that failed badly at UCA and everyone before and after him also failed badly at UCA. I think for his sake the UA would probably never risk tarnishing the legend of Corliss. Chasing after 1994...30 years later reeks of desperation and I'd like to think we are beyond that but perhaps not. Muss proved a half way competent coach could win here again.
$upport may be the flashing red light above the Arkansas name right now but if that's the case there have to be a lot of programs in the same shape.
Darrell Walker is one thing...the guy has been a head coach at the NBA and college level. You can say he's paid his dues and might even do a good job. I think for him the deal is he didn't exactly light the world on fire as an NBA head coach and has been competitive but not really moving beyond that at UALR. Simply put if you can't win in the Sun Belt or Ohio Valley or whatever the fuck then you aren't winning shit in the SEC.
So we got this going for us...which is nice.
https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776360998024409103?t=BDVq06870diWKrgcBMSU7w&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776360998024409103?t=BDVq06870diWKrgcBMSU7w&s=19)
There's a coach down at National Park Community College in Hot Springs, Dillon Hargrove. He just won a national championship with the Nighthawks. 31-1 on the season. He's the guy when all else fails.
https://np.edu/news/2024/press-releases/national-win.aspx
Hang the banner!!
https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776399329689030814?t=WotnXkUSPHx0IN3PiFv5OA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776399329689030814?t=WotnXkUSPHx0IN3PiFv5OA&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 07:07 PMHang the banner!!
https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776399329689030814?t=WotnXkUSPHx0IN3PiFv5OA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/1776399329689030814?t=WotnXkUSPHx0IN3PiFv5OA&s=19)
You forgot, Fuck Kentucky
Bullet dodged
https://twitter.com/CoachJTang/status/1776408687642628143?t=GIFSWsDj3kKhX0PS-0JmnA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CoachJTang/status/1776408687642628143?t=GIFSWsDj3kKhX0PS-0JmnA&s=19)
You know every coach is thrilled to death when HY calls. It's an automatic raise and extension. Not that I wanted Tang to begin with.
Will Wade is apparently set to interview. I am underwhelmed.
I don't want Wade. He's muss light when it comes to X's and O's and recruiting.
And he's a punchable douchebag.
Said back when people wanted to fire Muss, we could so a lot worse.
I do think Wade is a decent coach. He won more at LSU than anyone since Shaq was there. He also won big at VCU and won 30 at McNeese St.
But yes. he is punchable.
That Darrell Walker is looking better with every rejection!
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 05, 2024, 05:25 PMAccording to a friend that supports KState. Tang is staying.
Keep dis hur
Of course he is.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 05, 2024, 07:47 PMYou know every coach is thrilled to death when HY calls. It's an automatic raise and extension. Not that I wanted Tang to begin with.
Will Wade is apparently set to interview. I am underwhelmed.
HeresYourcheck has a lot of meanings.
When he was at LSU I never once thought to myself "damn I wish Will Wade was our coach."
Fuck it. I'm on the bring back Nolan bandwagon.
Walker can be his assistant.
This is hilariously similar to Broyles thinking Gillespie was a sure thing, getting publicly turned down by everyone under the sun, then settling on John Pelphrey. I hate this athletic department so much.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 05, 2024, 07:59 PMThis is hilariously similar to Broyles thinking Gillespie was a sure thing, getting publicly turned down by everyone under the sun, then settling on John Pelphrey. I hate this athletic department so much.
Don't forget Altman quitting almost as soon as his awkward press conference was over with
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 07:58 PMWhen he was at LSU I never once thought to myself "damn I wish Will Wade was our coach."
No but his team's were tough to play against. He ahould be able to get better talent to come to Arkansas than LSU.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 05, 2024, 08:01 PMDon't forget Altman quitting almost as soon as his awkward press conference was over with
I forgot that was part of that coaching search.
The good news is Devo might come back. Look for his dance video on the Ticky-tock.
I really don't want Will Wade. I'd rather have Plaid Wimp Oates (gag).
Somebody mentioned Billy Donovan. Let's go back up the truck at his house.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 05, 2024, 08:07 PMI really don't want Will Wade. I'd rather have Plaid Wimp Oates (gag).
Somebody mentioned Billy Donovan. Let's go back up the truck at his
Ain't no truck.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 05, 2024, 08:03 PMThe good news is Devo might come back. Look for his dance video on the Ticky-tock.
I don't want that mother fucker back. I feel like he's the reason our season and everything this year was a dumpster fire. Go fucking make dance videos on tik tok bro but you done here
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 05, 2024, 08:03 PMI forgot that was part of that coaching search.
I was at that press conference. I remember the whole thing feeling awkward as hell, Altman was boring, and Frank didn't act like he even wanted to be there.
Wade has proven to be a competitive coach in the SEC. What he did back then is now legal(ish) and who really gives a fuck. Winning is all that matters. Dude is 41 years old and could certainly have his best coaching years ahead of him and not behind him. I agree on the punchable face thing, don't really like the guy but I'll hold my nose and cheer the hire. He's also literally the only coach that can't turn this down :))
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 05, 2024, 06:12 PMhttps://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1776374737553535181?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
I'm glad we're being stealthy in our coaching search.
Time for some strong ass offers minus the wiretaps.
Fuck it let's just go back to crater face bring him out of retirement
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 05, 2024, 08:29 PMI'm glad we're being stealthy in our coaching search.
Yeah, the only thing worse than missing out on your 3rd or 4th option is having it blasted all over social media so everyone knows you missed out on them. Hell, see if Dawn Staley wants to turn us down while we're at it.
It could be that our #1 target is still coaching. Arkansas can be the first P5 school to offer a head coaching job to a woman.
Arkansas: The Progressive State
Dawn Staley, c'mon down.
Sign me up for Will Wade. Dude wins wherever he goes. I sure wouldnt want him to do that here at Arkansas. Plus, he has never had our level of fan base and basketball resources.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 05, 2024, 08:02 PMHe ahould be able to get better talent to come to Arkansas than LSU.
Why?
You think Hunter is at the final four with a list and just going line by line reaching out and getting denied by fucjing everyone. This some weak ass negotiating.
Gregg Marshall is waiting by the phone
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 05, 2024, 08:50 PMIt could be that our #1 target is still coaching. Arkansas can be the first P5 school to offer a head coaching job to a woman.
Arkansas: The Progressive State
Dawn Staley, c'mon down.
God no. We'd lose every game. Angry lesbian doesn't work in the men's game.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 05, 2024, 08:50 PMWhy?
We have always out recruited LSU. Better talent in state. Wade recruited well at LSU ($$ I know) but he had to get them on Campus. Other schools were doing the same.
Since 2015 McNeese won 11,11,10,15,9,12,7,9 games each year. They won 30 their first year under Wade.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 05, 2024, 08:12 PMI was at that press conference. I remember the whole thing feeling awkward as hell, Altman was boring, and Frank didn't act like he even wanted to be there.
It's on YouTube if you'd like to relive it.
Tang's video he tweeted out was the weirdest way to announce he was staying at Kansas State reminded me of a slideshow you'd see at a church banquet.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 05, 2024, 09:04 PMIt's on YouTube if you'd like to relive it.
Tang's video he tweeted out was the weirdest way to announce he was staying at Kansas State reminded me of a slideshow you'd see at a church banquet.
What's worse than losing a coach to USC or Ole Miss?
Losing one to Kansas fucking State.
Wade did win 30,which is hard at any level
McPherson says he's next which means it won't happen.
Hell, we'll manage to get a Cal a raise before it's over.
No one can screw up a coaching search like we can.
anyone in state claiming to know - write that candidate off.
Richard Pitino
Greg McDermott (which I would take)
Lamont Paris
Josh Shertz from Illinois State would be great but Pool Boy probably has no idea who he is.
he is gonna end up on a corner outside the coaches' hotel at the final four with a cardboard sign advertising the sign.
If we end up with Darrell Walker, i'm done.
Wonder if McPherson will try to sabotage the next coach too so he can have some drama to report on.
We let the wrong people have access to our sports.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 05, 2024, 09:26 PMWade did win 30,which is hard at any level
McPherson says he's next which means it won't happen.
Hell, we'll manage to get a Cal a raise before it's over.
No one can screw up a coaching search like we can.
anyone in state claiming to know - write that candidate off.
Richard Pitino
Greg McDermott (which I would take)
Lamont Paris
Josh Shertz from Illinois State would be great but Pool Boy probably has no idea who he is.
he is gonna end up on a corner outside the coaches' hotel at the final four with a cardboard sign advertising the sign.
If we end up with Darrell Walker, i'm done.
this. If we end up with motherfuking darrell Walker in the end I am done with it all. Just take me out back and shoot me
https://x.com/HoggyLeeJ/status/1776349232963768433
So I have kinda missed out on this thread for several hours. Where are we? Have we hired Tang or not?
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 10:21 PMSo I have kinda missed out on this thread for several hours. Where are we? Have we hired Tang or not?
We're still waiting on the women's final four to get over before we announce, keep up.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 10:21 PMSo I have kinda missed out on this thread for several hours. Where are we? Have we hired Tang or not?
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1776415126343565676
Gonna get Brad Stamps a raise too lol
https://x.com/barstoolua/status/1776424938242502974?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 05, 2024, 10:21 PMSo I have kinda missed out on this thread for several hours. Where are we? Have we hired Tang or not?
Joe Kleine is now the leading candidate. With a Nutt brother to be named later as head assistant.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 05, 2024, 10:44 PMJoe Kleine is now the leading candidate. With a Nutt brother to be named later as head assistant.
Also a coalition is rallying support to make Gus the new AD.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 05, 2024, 08:56 PMGod no. We'd lose every game. Angry lesbian doesn't work in the men's game.
Why not? We already have players with painted fingernails. Lesbian players = gay players
Darrell Walker is getting way too much mention.
Did anyone else watch the OVC championship? heavy favorite UALR got smoked, outplayed and outcoached knowning they had to win to get into the NCAAT. total gag yet the LR Media keep pounding that drum.
Wade - I just dont' know. hell i'd rather have Calipari honestly and you know he would want to stick it to KY Jelly plus he's tight with John Tyson. recruiting would not be an issue.
watch him hire Sampson's kid who is the coach in waiting at Houston.
Steve Forbes - Wake Forest
Norm Roberts - Kansas Assistant
or the ultimate retread - Steve Alford (back to back Nevada coaches really?)
I would imagine that Hunter's stupid video isn't helping things, you know they are asking him about that. Are you going to get mad at me and mock me publicly.
shertz told the indiana st. players yesterday he's going to st. louis. some talk that tang was never really approached for the arkansas job, just a name that got thrown out and the talking heads ran with it. pretty sure wade would have the same restrictions here as he did at murray st.
i personally see walker as nothing more than a name some homers are yapping about. mcmillan should be the floor.
people's sources and the arkansas media are hitting below the mendoza line, wouldn't put too much stock into the shit that's being put out there.
Why in the fuck are we considering a HS fville coach wtf
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 06, 2024, 08:08 AMWhy in the fuck are we considering a HS fville coach wtf
We're not, that's just people trolling on twitter. I highly doubt we're even considering Walker.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 06, 2024, 08:08 AMWhy in the fuck are we considering a HS fville coach wtf
I'm hoping that was a joke
Hunter Yurachek couldn't sell pussy to a train full of servicemen.
I really hope this is all a smokescreen rather than a shit show.
Hopefully Hunter pulls a Buzz Williams rather than a Buzz Peterson type of name out of his hat.
At present, it looks like Buzz Lightyear is going to coach us to infinity and beyond...
I hope Hunter Yuracheeks enjoys his time at the final four. Is the athletic department footing the bill for that?
Isn't the coaches convention at the final four every year?
Yes. And usually where deals get done.
Hopefully Hunter is playing 3D chess and not Go Fish.
TJ Cleveland will do great things. #fastest40
Time to bring Jonathon Modica home.
I hear Jimmy Dykes is available.
I don't know if I buy the noncompete either.
If at some point other schools are interested, then your coach is supremely successful. Then you still have an opportunity to counter if you want to keep the guy. Just like what Ole Miss did with Beard and what Muss tried to do.
Kikko Haydar has turned down his prestigious medical fellowship to save us.
Yes coaches meet at final four but not like they use to re: portal and try to do family thing during no contact period.
No to buzz Williams or anyone named buzz
Scratch Schertz
https://x.com/saintlouismbb/status/1776625919702024416?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Another recruit has said bye-bye. 4* Jalen Shelley requests release from his LOI.
Happens when they don't know who the coach is. Just hope we hire another one before he commits elsewhere.
This is insanity. Just hire Wade and be done. Goddamn.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 06, 2024, 01:31 PMThis is insanity. Just hire Wade and be done. Goddamn.
It's been like 24 hrs since the last hot news take that fell apart quicker than a Brittney Spears meltdown
Quote from: animal on Apr 06, 2024, 01:41 PMIt's been like 24 hrs since the last hot news take that fell apart quicker than a Brittney Spears meltdown
Yurachek has known Muss has been looking all season. The guy is fucking clueless.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 06, 2024, 01:44 PMYurachek has known Muss has been looking all season. The guy is fucking clueless.
All that stuff about how Beard really wanted this job BAD. Was bullshit. Beard really wanted our job to help him get more money out of Ole Miss. HY and possibly our big donors played the fool here.
There have been tactical errors made by HY that are basically unforgivable in both major sports. You don't get into a bidding war with someone like Ole Miss not because we can't out spend them. We simply won't and it's been proven time and time again. Better to navigate around those waters when possible. Otherwise you risk being seen as an equal to them or worse Mississippi's prison bitch. We should never be competing with them for a head coach in a major sport. Even Frank fucked around and found that out when trying to hire Tuberville away from Ole Miss. Ignore Frank's blunders late in his reign...otherwise in comparison he comes off looking far more professional than HY or Long who are rear echelon types all the way. HY just wants to look good in a sports jacket and maybe somehow waggle his way into Jerry Jones' will.
Do we literally over value Fayetteville/UA and under value places like Oxford, Ms and Starkville? Oxford has newer facilities I believe for basketball but cannot possibly compare in game day atmosphere. In any case I'll make a prediction right now that Beard won't be at Ole Miss this time next season unless they are still playing in the tournament. Tennessee could open, one has to think Barnes will retire in the next couple years. Oklahoma maybe...Porter Moser isn't lighting it on fire. We talked about Kentucky. If Oats goes to Kentucky then Bama could opt for Beard. That's just talking about SEC gigs. Law of averages are Kansas could open within a few years. Beard doesn't have to go anywhere right now. Will be interesting to see what their NIL game looks like next season. I'd think that's a major factor. If you can't buy players right now you aint gonna be shit regardless of how good you are as a coach.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 06, 2024, 01:44 PMYurachek has known Muss has been looking all season. The guy is fucking clueless.
He is not good at his job, so we will probably keep him another decade.
The one thing I know about business is money isn't the whole picture.
You have to have a combination of a coach being pretty unhappy where he is, coupled with the right culture fit and relationships, respect for the guy he's going to work for and then yes of course the money.
See the guy who left us. Beard obviously isn't unhappy in Oxford and neither was Tang at KSt.
That points to Wade being the guy. If we can't get Wade we might as well burn the program down.
I will have to say watching this makes me respect Broyles. He had the respect of the coaching profession. Yurachek is an administrator first and he obviously can't connect with these guys like Broyles did.
Is there another job in the SEC that current SEC coaches would leave for besides Kentucky, assuming all SEC schools would be fairly competitive on pay? I know Mike white left Florida for Georgia but his seat was probably getting hot. Doesn't seem like this has happened very often in the past, but could be forgetting. I mean Florida has the most recent natties besides KY, but I just don't see one being a greater allure over the other in basketball, including Arkansas.
Obviously Mike left Missouri for here, but I mean without some other endearing type scenario.
House divided! Pool boy is drowning
This is out there in the coaching community (attached)
Also - https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1776638495131685024?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
We did pretty much postpone our own entry into the big league NIL game. We also proved that we can pay a coach Top-10 money.
Quote from: animal on Apr 06, 2024, 02:19 PMYou don't get into a bidding war with someone like Ole Miss not because we can't out spend them. We simply won't and it's been proven time and time again. Better to navigate around those waters when possible. Otherwise you risk being seen as an equal to them or worse Mississippi's prison bitch. We should never be competing with them for a head coach in a major sport. Even Frank fucked around and found that out when trying to hire Tuberville away from Ole Miss.
Obvious omission from the post is Ole Miss stealing Nutt from us.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 06, 2024, 02:57 PMHouse divided! Pool boy is drowning
This is out there in the coaching community (attached)
Also - https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1776638495131685024?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
lot of people calling those guys out for that bullshit. No way 30% of the fan base wanted him gone. The fans might not have wanted to sit thru a shit season and go to the games and support a team that gave little or no effort but overall Muss quit us not the other way around. Also those guys apparently know about all the butt stuff drama going on.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 06, 2024, 02:57 PMHouse divided! Pool boy is drowning
This is out there in the coaching community (attached)
Also - https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1776638495131685024?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
They're correct, our fanbase is delusional.
Quote from: red death on Apr 06, 2024, 02:36 PMI will have to say watching this makes me respect Broyles. He had the respect of the coaching profession. Yurachek is an administrator first and he obviously can't connect with these guys like Broyles did.
Did he? I mean his football hiring was horrible.
Stayed out of Nolan's and McDonald's way, but you would think he would be better at picking foitball coaches.
Other colleges have done pretty good at picking coaches without being a former college head football coach.
Wasn't Wade super dooshy when LSU came to Fayetteville when he was with them? Plus didn't he get put in hack for recruiting issues?
I'm concerned we haven't been publicly embarrassed all day.
Nobody has turned down this job, Beard wasn't offered and if you believe we were gonna pay a 6 million dollar buyout for Tang, well you're a dumbass. Yiradick may totally fuck this up, but he hasn't yet.
Quote from: Pig Sooie on Apr 06, 2024, 04:46 PM...and if you believe we were gonna pay a 6 million dollar buyout for Tang, well you're a dumbass.
this part especially.
Quote from: Pig Sooie on Apr 06, 2024, 04:46 PMNobody has turned down this job, Beard wasn't offered and if you believe we were gonna pay a 6 million dollar buyout for Tang, well you're a dumbass. Yiradick may totally fuck this up, but he hasn't yet.
Beard wasn't offered? Lol
Quote from: Pig Sooie on Apr 06, 2024, 04:46 PMNobody has turned down this job, Beard wasn't offered and if you believe we were gonna pay a 6 million dollar buyout for Tang, well you're a dumbass. Yiradick may totally fuck this up, but he hasn't yet.
Conflicting statements
To that point I do believe HY had to know Muss was one foot out the door. The guy phoned it in most of the season. Surely he was putting out some feelers. Don't tell me we are waiting on Keates or something like that
A little surprising Tang has a 6 million buyout. Meanwhile, Muss has a 1 million to leave on his own, but 6 million to fire him( or something like that's been posted). AND, we can't afford to fire our football coach. Definitely sounds like there is some dumbassery going on with our AD and not inspiring much hope that he will not F this up.
Quote from: animal on Apr 06, 2024, 05:02 PMDon't tell me we are waiting on Keates or something like that
That's an interesting thought. Had a good 3 years at UNC-W. Hasn't lit the world on fire in the ACC, but that's tough to do at NC State. Obviously got hot at the right time this year, but was still sub .500 in conference.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 06, 2024, 02:57 PMHouse divided! Pool boy is drowning
This is out there in the coaching community (attached)
Also - https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1776638495131685024?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
I bet the only game of ours these dudes saw was Duke. They didn't see all the others where we played like crap and looked like we didn't give a shit. Muss and the team gave up LONG before any of fan's gave up on them.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 06, 2024, 03:15 PMObvious omission from the post is Ole Miss stealing Nutt from us.
The Ole Miss that kept Tuberville (for one year) after our committee refused to hire him was not the same program they have today.
That was back when they still knew their place at the bottom of the league.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 06, 2024, 05:25 PMI bet the only game of ours these dudes saw was Duke. They didn't see all the others where we played like crap and looked like we didn't give a shit. Muss and the team gave up LONG before any of fan's gave up on them.
I was about to post the same thing. We can take a losing season as a fan base, we've definitely proven that.
But this year wasn't just a losing season. All those guys in that video know is the record.
Quote from: Borenutz on Apr 06, 2024, 05:09 PMA little surprising Tang has a 6 million buyout. Meanwhile, Muss has a 1 million to leave on his own, but 6 million to fire him( or something like that's been posted). AND, we can't afford to fire our football coach. Definitely sounds like there is some dumbassery going on with our AD and not inspiring much hope that he will not F this up.
If we really don't have any money, I want to see some fucking detailed financial information.
We have more, wealthier boosters than Ole Miss. We sell more, higher priced tickets to all sports (yes including football). They are in the poorest state in the union, and they split loyalties with another similar school.
Where did the fucking money go?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 06, 2024, 07:16 PMIf we really don't have any money, I want to see some fucking detailed financial information.
We have more, wealthier boosters than Ole Miss. We sell more, higher priced tickets to all sports (yes including football). They are in the poorest state in the union, and they split loyalties with another similar school.
Where did the fucking money go?
I'm parsing here but it sounds like whatever the UA was doing initially with NIL was an epic failure and nobody is saying it but I wonder how fraudulent it was. Establishing a "collective" some 18 months too late is likely killing us right now.
If they think we don't have any money now, just wait until the foundation members quit donating. That, along with other donors.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Apr 06, 2024, 07:40 PMIf they think we don't have any money now, just wait until the foundation members quit donating. That, along with other donors.
Yep, besides the die hards.
You have to spend some money to make money.
For reference Dan Hurley makes ~$5.4m/year.
It feels like instead of picking either football or basketball to be good in and Dumping more money into that sport and taking our chance in the other on an up-and-comer. We have managed to split the money in a way that funds both programs leaving us shittastic and underfunded in both.
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 06, 2024, 08:05 PMIt feels like instead of picking either football or basketball to be good in and Dumping more money into that sport and taking our chance in the other on an up-and-comer. We have managed to split the money in a way that funds both programs leaving us shittastic and underfunded in both.
"Wal-Ball"?
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 06, 2024, 07:51 PMFor reference Dan Hurley makes ~$5.4m/year.
Winning a natty will get you that. Was making half that before he won it.
I want Bob Holt to attend the first few USC basketball press conferences. "So, the Hunter Muss Buss tweet, what did ya think of that?"
Quote from: Pig Sooie on Apr 06, 2024, 04:46 PMNobody has turned down this job, Beard wasn't offered
Exhibit 1 for delusional fan base.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 09:36 PMExhibit 1 for delusional fan base.
"If our Athletic Director didn't know what he was doing then he wouldn't be directing our athletics now would he?"
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 06, 2024, 09:44 PM"If our Athletic Director didn't know what he was doing then he wouldn't be directing our athletics now would he?"
That you, Kamala?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 06, 2024, 07:16 PMIf we really don't have any money, I want to see some fucking detailed financial information.
We have more, wealthier boosters than Ole Miss. We sell more, higher priced tickets to all sports (yes including football). They are in the poorest state in the union, and they split loyalties with another similar school.
Where did the fucking money go?
Ole Miss is benefiting by being hot at the right time. The average fan doesn't mind sending in that $100 a month for winning programs.
Arkansas fans are used to the big money guys paying for everything. They aren't sending in money unless they get something for it. (Better seats, merch, etc) They won't or can't afford to support a loser.
A quality athletic director is key to directing athletic programs as the main director of athletics.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 09:54 PMThe average fan doesn't mind sending in that $100 a month for winning programs.
Is this true? I don't think it's true.
Any NIL dependent on the average fan probably won't accomplish anything.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 06, 2024, 10:12 PMIs this true? I don't think it's true.
Any NIL dependent on the average fan probably won't accomplish anything.
It can't come from public companies either.
Who knows but this guy gets info.......
https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1776805673474343289?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Does this mean Warren has gotten involved again and put the AD on the bench? It happened with the Anderson hire.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 06, 2024, 10:12 PMIs this true? I don't think it's true.
Any NIL dependent on the average fan probably won't accomplish anything.
I don't know. Get 20000 average fans at $100 a month and that's $24 million a year. Pretty good payroll.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:27 PMI don't know. Get 20000 average fans at $100 a month and that's $24 million a year. Pretty good payroll.
I'd imagine the regular posters here are bigger fans than the average fan.
And I'd imagine very few of us would ever donate $100 a month to a Razorback NIL.
Is there even one woopigger chipping in now?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 06, 2024, 10:30 PMI'd imagine the regular posters here are bigger fans than the average fan.
And I'd imagine very few of us would ever donate $100 a month to a Razorback NIL.
Is there even one woopigger chipping in now?
Then you can forget about having a winning athletic program.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:36 PMThen you can forget about having a winning athletic program.
How much are you sending up there?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 06, 2024, 10:30 PMI'd imagine the regular posters here are bigger fans than the average fan.
And I'd imagine very few of us would ever donate $100 a month to a Razorback NIL.
Is there even one woopigger chipping in now?
Here here
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 06, 2024, 10:37 PMHow much are you sending up there?
Evidently not enough.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:36 PMThen you can forget about having a winning athletic program.
I agree. That's why I don't mind chipping in if I have extra money to give. Now, if we continue to lose that will get old quick.
Individual contributions and privately owned companies is what will make NIL. The Yellawood guy at Auburn is a prime example.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 06, 2024, 10:49 PMI agree. That's why I don't mind chipping in if I have extra money to give. Now, if we continue to lose that will get old quick.
Individual contributions and privately owned companies is what will make NIL. The Yellawood guy at Auburn is a prime example.
Exactly. Ole Miss is winning. Their fans are seeing results.
Sending money to Fayetteville (right now)is like sending money to support the Washington Generals vs the Globetrotters.
curry is holding a spaces on x. multiple sources have told him we have reached back out to Beard. what happens next who knows.
think about it - every coaching search we have turns into a circus.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:27 PMI don't know. Get 20000 average fans at $100 a month and that's $24 million a year. Pretty good payroll.
Ole Miss has trouble getting more than 60,000 or so to a home football game. I seriously doubt they can get close to a third of those to send in $100/month.
There are two big contrasts I see in how they're coming up with NIL versus us.
1. They are better at mobilizing the "kinda rich." The car dealers, owners of service companies, privately owned construction firms, PI lawyers, etc. We are used to relying on Walmart, Tyson, Hunt and other public corps and their execs/retirees. The latter isn't interested in or can't legally invest in anything that doesn't have a possible ROI.
2. Their money people are better at handing the funds over to capable administrators and letting them spend it as they see fit. Ours are in multiple factions competing for influence, and only give the really big money if they get a say in who's hired. Just like the Six Flags crowd pushing Gus, the LR people pushing Nutt, etc.
Egads
https://x.com/ArkansasOnline/status/1776826778536882287
Chris Jans wiki is super saying his the Arkansas coach now.
I don't have a huge problem with Jans...he's won at each stop. He's not had great tournament success but I think you have to take in account where he's been doesn't necessarily equate to expecting tournament success. Just getting there is the benchmark at NM State and Miss State. I think he was one of the ones being talked about for the job before. Had some strong NM State teams. His past drunkeness is supposedly one of the things that made him a hard no before. Jans started his career in the Iowa and KC areas, did some time at Wichita State too. Think maybe his wife is from the Wichita area but could be wrong on that.
This stuff with Darrell Walker makes me think he's THE backup plan and they have a hard out for some time today or tomorrow.
Wade must not be in play because of the show cause shit. He's stuck at McNeese for another season then he'll get another SEC gig you can bet on it. Which means Mississippi State hires him about ten minutes after we announce Jans.
Then again this is our local media saying it's Jans or Walker and they have a stellar track record.
This has gotta be some sort of distraction. There's no way they are legitimately looking at Walker.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 06, 2024, 11:04 PMcurry is holding a spaces on x. multiple sources have told him we have reached back out to Beard. what happens next who knows.
think about it - every coaching search we have turns into a circus.
WHAT does your first sentence say? Or is that some new wave social language only the cool kids know?
Who the hell is Curry? We have to lead the nation in grifter twitter fans who think they are important. That Teeter kid, the middle aged chicks who think they're hot 20 somethings, Rick B...
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 07, 2024, 07:02 AMWHAT does your first sentence say? Or is that some new wave social language only the cool kids know?
and ee cummings is making a comeback!
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 06:43 AMThis has gotta be some sort of distraction. There's no way they are legitimately looking at Walker.
Why not? Have you forgotten who we are? It's almost like it doesn't matter who the AD is for us to make dumb hires.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 07, 2024, 07:02 AMWHAT does your first sentence say? Or is that some new wave social language only the cool kids know?
It's a party line for Twitter/X.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 07:49 AMWhy not? Have you forgotten who we are? It's almost like it doesn't matter who the AD is for us to make dumb hires.
Jans wouldn't be an awful hire but Walker would be equivalent to Ewing at Georgetown.
Jans has only missed out on the post season once in his career, and it was the covid season. One CBI and six NCAA games. Not exciting but at the very least I think he would have us competitive. State is a hard place to win at.
State has had a lot more success than OM. I think Walker and Jans are smokescreens.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 07, 2024, 07:34 AMWho the hell is Curry? We have to lead the nation in grifter twitter fans who think they are important. That Teeter kid, the middle aged chicks who think they're hot 20 somethings, Rick B...
He's not a Hog fan. He's a UMASS alum that has a podcast that's pretty popular for coaching searches. He's followed by several national guys like Goodman, Rothstein, and Borzello.
Walker would be horrible. I think there is at least one BOT member who agrees with me on that.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 08:51 AMState has had a lot more success than OM. I think Walker and Jans are smokescreens.
I didn't realize State had a Final Four appearance. But I agree that they're smokescreens. There's no way Yurachek doesn't get fired asap if he hires Walker.
RE: Wade we also need to consider the possibility that Sankey has an informal prohibition on league schools hiring him. Similar to what he and Slive did with Petrino for so long after we ran him off, and the supposed ban on Freeze until one of the SEC office's pet schools wanted to hire him.
If that is the case we need to tell the league office to fuck off, that we won't participate in illegal labor market collusion and we'll hire whoever we damn well please. And if we hire someone shitty I plan to FOI every communication within the last year between the top 3-4 admins in our department and any SEC execs to find out if this happened.
Everything is fine
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Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 09:04 AMEverything is fine
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I don't care that much if he stays or goes. He doesn't make his teammates better and his game relies on getting to the free throw line 50 times a game. He plays no defense, he constantly whines, he's a streaky shooter, and he's shit at finishing at the rim. This entire roster can get the fuck out unless Blocker wants to come back.
If we hire Jans or Walker, I'm fucking done watching the shit. Football has been bad enough. We're a fucking basketball school those candidates are unacceptable. Fucking Hunter Yuracheeks.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 09:17 AMIf we hire Jans or Walker, I'm fucking done watching the shit. Football has been bad enough. We're a fucking basketball school those candidates are unacceptable. Fucking Hunter Yuracheeks.
Hunter SpreadYurcheeks has a nice ring to it.
His smartest guy in the room shrewd negotiator act is fucking beyond tired. Make something happen or get lost, especially when he already used us for a big raise himself.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 08:51 AMState has had a lot more success than OM. I think Walker and Jans are smokescreens.
Maybe. There are always going to be other options out there. I don't know that I buy the Beard thing where he's back to the table. Was it John Tyson or Stephens that had to save the deal with Mike Anderson after it was initially botched by Long? Getting turned down stone cold on twitter surely shut that shit right the fuck down the other day. Although Arkansas has circled back a number of times to Gus and probably will again and finally get him in 2025.
I just don't think these coaches really view lateral moves between P5 gigs to be that much of an incentive. If the NIL thing is currently fucked most any coach including a lot of your top mid-major guys are going to want some guarantees and long term contract...maybe 7 year deal to start.
Over in the land of the retards and dipshits the story is that no one liked coaching or playing for Muss because he was abusive.
https://x.com/khalifbattle24/status/1775972879785480308?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 08:56 AMI didn't realize State had a Final Four appearance. But I agree that they're smokescreens. There's no way Yurachek doesn't get fired asap if he hires Walker.
Back when they had the Albert Einstein of college hoops, Dontae Jones, leading the way.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 09:35 AMBack when they had the Albert Einstein of college hoops, Dontae Jones, leading the way.
I almost called that back in the before time, and then I did some math.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 09:26 AMOver in the land of the retards and dipshits the story is that no one liked coaching or playing for Muss because he was abusive.
https://x.com/khalifbattle24/status/1775972879785480308?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
what is "Well deserved" about him getting the USC job?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 09:43 AMwhat is "Well deserved" about him getting the USC job?
Yeah, like Muss had to pay his dues coaching here. Battle can fuck off too.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 07, 2024, 09:45 AMYeah, like Muss had to pay his dues coaching here. Battle can fuck off too.
And some get amazed when Arkansas fans are called delusional
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 09:43 AMwhat is "Well deserved" about him getting the USC job?
Well Muss deserves living in SoCal. I agree with Battle on this one.
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
THIS would be the most Arkansas thing to happen lol.
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
So was Muss getting out before the sheriff paid a visit? Time will tell.
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
Certainly sounds like something that would happen to us.
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
When that guy got eligible is when the wheels really began to fall off. You would have to do some pretty bad shit for anyone to notice at the NCAA these days. But we aren't Kansas or Arizona so they'll get concerned. Meanwhile Muss eases out the backdoor...hopefully this shit follows him too. Fuck him if this is true. Fuck him anyway.
The whole thing seems a bit weird. Usually there would be a "Notice of Allegations" and then a investigation that carries on for a year or so and then maybe at some point some self imposed penalties if the NCAA doesn't come down first.
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I hope it's bs because otherwise we're boned.
This would be par for the course. Other schools raping and pillaging and yet the hammer comes down on Arkansas.
NCAA says Arkansas better know their place.
Wasnt it LSU several years that admit recruiting violations and had the receipts and NCAA just said "meh. It's aight."
Took 2 years for them to finally come down on Wade. The dude was caught dead to rights on a freaking FBI wiretap. Even though what he did is legal now.
Darrell Walker would work cheap, plus his personal information is already in the university system.
Saves on HR costs!!
Shit. Explains a lot. Would if minefield was ever eligible
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If this is true, Fuck Muss x 100!
Just when you thought nothing would out-shitshow the last football HC search, here we go!
BS. No way there is info in a penalty without confirmation of an investigation. Takes the NCAA months to do thosw investigations
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 09:59 AMThe whole thing seems a bit weird. Usually there would be a "Notice of Allegations" and then a investigation that carries on for a year or so and then maybe at some point some self imposed penalties if the NCAA doesn't come down first.
Anonymous quoting anonymous.
You'll know what's about to happen when Darrell Walker is announced along with Ronnie Brewer being his right hand man
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/razorbacks-set-program-bests-on-apr-report-card/
Seems like APR isn't the issue.
That punishment would go on Muss not the UofA
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 10:11 AMYou'll know what's about to happen when Darrell Walker is announced along with Ronnie Brewer being his right hand man
We need to keep Ronnie.
I don't know how any and every school doesn't have APR issues when nobody graduates players. I'm sure they changed some rules to account for the musical chairs of athletes each year now.
So we go from landing Chris Beard for a 2nd time to nobody wants the job because we're fixin to get a post season ban? It hasn't even been a week since Muss left and everyone is losing their minds.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 09:35 AMBack when they had the Albert Einstein of college hoops, Dontae Jones, leading the way.
I wish I knew who that was, sounds like interesting dude. I was 8 in 1996.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 10:17 AMI wish I knew who that was, sounds like interesting dude. I was 8 in 1996.
Kid passed 36 hrs of summer school to become eligible. Helluva player though
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 10:22 AMKid passed 36 hrs of summer school to become eligible. Helluva player though
It took me 7 years to finally graduate last May. I could have used his tutor.
Ron Brewer told me Eddie sent him to Idaho to do the Dontae Jones speed run in order to get him eligible to play here. Mississippi State also had Erick Dampier on that team.
Believe Slick Rick Stansbury was the coach then, who is now an asst under Penny at Memphis.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 10:35 AMBelieve Slick Rick Stansbury was the coach then, who is now an asst under Penny at Memphis.
Richard Williams was the coach, Stansbury was on staff though.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 07, 2024, 10:30 AMRon Brewer told me Eddie sent him to Idaho to do the Dontae Jones speed run in order to get him eligible to play here. Mississippi State also had Erick Dampier on that team.
Why would Eddie care who played at Arkansas in 1996?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 07, 2024, 10:45 AMWhy would Eddie care who played at Arkansas in 1996?
https://x.com/marcusc7796/status/1777002298876543004?
Anybody buying this?
No but that would be a hell of a hire.
The only thing I think that could even make that remotely true is basketball will always be second fiddle in Alabama, whereas that's not necessarily the case at Arkansas.
No.
guy who originally posted that said it was to troll bama fans.
If you were good with Tang then you should be more than happy with Chris Jans.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 07, 2024, 11:13 AMIf you were good with Tang then you should be more than happy with Chris Jans.
Think we can outbid Mississippi State?
Jans > Tang
Jans is a lousy recruiter.
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1776992506296811546?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
But I do wonder how they guys who transfer multiple times stay eligible.
Minefield was eligible on the transfer and played but then held out for "academics". The team went to 💩 shortly after.
This is like the search to replace heath and we know how that ended up.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 11:34 AMJans is a lousy recruiter.
Maybe
He's coached 2 places that are really hard to sell and he did get Hubbard
Tang was never offered because of the 6 million buyout. Anyone that says otherwise, to me, is instantly discreditable.
In this day and age where you can direct deposit nil money, you have to really be getting after it to cheat in recruiting
Usually it is tampering. Contacting a player before they hit the portal. Pitino get dinged for this a week or so ago.
Gittyup!
https://x.com/aaron_torres/status/1777027274090614994?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Yuracheeks earns $1.5mm annually.
https://x.com/bigphil870/status/1777043366573662250?
I have been wondering about this. Is Wade even eligible to be hired at Arkansas?
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 01:58 PMhttps://x.com/bigphil870/status/1777043366573662250?
I have been wondering about this. Is Wade even eligible to be hired at Arkansas?
Surely he doesn't have the authority to do that. Sankey is a freaking New York carpetbagger. Act like the rest of schools have done the NCAA when faced with penalties and just ignore him.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 07, 2024, 02:09 PMSurely he doesn't have the authority to do that. Sankey is a freaking New York carpetbagger. Act like the rest of schools have done the NCAA when faced with penalties and just ignore him.
He only has the authority if we allow it.
Tell him to go fuck himself.
I think if we could or would hire Wade that would have already happened. OR we are waiting for the SEC to allow it.
The beat writers seem a bit beat down and perplexed. I really love the "10 names Ive heard"...and goes on to not share. That's a good way to come back later when it's over and say yep that guy was on my list. Sources are golden.
Who the fuck is Phillip White?
Torres seema like a good dude. He gives us props quite often.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 07, 2024, 02:09 PMSurely he doesn't have the authority to do that. Sankey is a freaking New York carpetbagger. Act like the rest of schools have done the NCAA when faced with penalties and just ignore him.
I think he probably does have the authority. I am sure we have signed agreements to go by SEC rules, etc.
Auburn does what the fuck they want. Tennessee says "fuck you, NCAA" and sues. We just lie down and have a good bleed.
If we want to hire Will Wade, hire him and tell Sankey to fuck himself.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 02:26 PMAuburn does what the fuck they want. Tennessee says "fuck you, NCAA" and sues. We just lie down and have a good bleed.
If we want to hire Will Wade, hire him and tell Sankey to fuck himself.
And watch him say our basketball program won't be a part of the SEC conference next year. I would need to know more about the SEC rules and each schools agreement with the SEC.
There are no rulea that prevent us from hiring Wade
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 02:29 PMThere are no rulea that prevent us from hiring Wade
Some say otherwise. I admit I don't know.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 02:28 PMAnd watch him say our basketball program won't be a part of the SEC conference next year. I would need to know more about the SEC rules and each schools agreement with the SEC.
Then sue his ass like Auburn or Tennessee would.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 02:33 PMThen sue his ass like Auburn or Tennessee would.
Tennessee sued the NCAA. Not the SEC. Has Auburn ever sued the SEC?
If we hire wade we may lose our Thanksgiving LSU game and get fucked on scheduling every year. Oh wait...
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 02:34 PMTennessee sued the NCAA. Not the SEC. Has Auburn ever sued the SEC?
Tell me they wouldn't. They told everyone to fuck themselves with Cam. They hired Freeze.
Do what you want. Never ask permission.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 02:38 PMTell me they wouldn't. They told everyone to fuck themselves with Cam. They hired Freeze.
Do what you want. Never ask permission.
Freeze wasn't issued a show cause by the NCAA.
So far, I am convinced no one on here really knows the agreements we have with the SEC re the power of the Commissioner.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 02:42 PMFreeze wasn't issued a show cause by the NCAA.
So far, I am convinced no one on here really knows the agreements we have with the SEC re the power of the Commissioner.
And you don't get the point. Do it and force them to act.
I don't see how the conference can block which coach you hire. I've seen nothing that states Wade cannot coach in the SEC
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 02:44 PMAnd you don't get the point. Do it and force them to act.
I'm not sure "fuck around and find out" is an appropriate answer in this case. You haven't convinced me it is.
No one knows jack shit and this stems from some rando twitterX about what he's "hearing".
He does have a point. Auburn's the SEC's darling. They hire Pearl, Freeze and do whatever they want with little to no backlash.
You can't tell me that Freeze deserves to be in this premiere conference over others. Beard may have a pimp hand but Freeze is literally a pimp.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 02:25 PMI think he probably does have the authority. I am sure we have signed agreements to go by SEC rules, etc.
If it's a written ban on any school hiring Wade, then you're probably right, although that might get into issues that Wade could sue the league over.
If it's an informal or unwritten rule, then it's more like collusion rather than actual league policy.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 02:46 PMI'm not sure "fuck around and find out" is an appropriate answer in this case. You haven't convinced me it is.
You'll never find out if you don't fuck around a little.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 02:44 PMI don't see how the conference can block which coach you hire. I've seen nothing that states Wade cannot coach in the SEC
I haven't either and I've looked. I've seen stuff where he had a 10 game suspension which I gather some or all of that was served this past season at McNeese. I gather he has recruiting restrictions till Oct 2024. These articles deviate though from "cannot have any contact" to "cannot recruit off-campus"...seems like a big deviation. Somehow he fielded a team this past season.
I've seen zippo saying he can't return to the SEC. Though certainly it could be a deal where he's been blackballed. It may simply be that HY/Arkansas don't want to touch the guy. If we truly are about to get in trouble over some recruiting shit then I'd think Wade isn't exactly who we are going to be turning to.
I'm ready to be a villain again.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 03:00 PMI'm ready to be a villain again.
lol. Let Bobby hand the paperwork directly to Stanky.
pearl and feeze weren't under an active show cause when they were hired. bama tried to hire freeze a few years ago and stankey shut it down because it was too soon.
if he can tell bama no, and they listened, then we have no chance in hiring a guy with an active show cause if he doesn't want it to happen.
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 02:59 PMIf we truly are about to get in trouble over some recruiting shit then I'd think Wade isn't exactly who we are going to be turning to.
and this.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 02:59 PMYou'll never find out if you don't fuck around a little.
Well, maybe, just maybe, HY actually knows what the rules say and what the consequences might be and that is why he isn't willing to "just hire Wade.".
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 07, 2024, 02:52 PMBeard may have a pimp hand but Freeze is literally a pimp.
I'll be stealing this. :thumb_up:
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 07, 2024, 03:09 PMpearl and feeze weren't under an active show cause when they were hired. bama tried to hire freeze a few years ago and stankey shut it down because it was too soon.
if he can tell bama no, and they listened, then we have no chance in hiring a guy with an active show cause if he doesn't want it to happen.
and this.
Not saying you're lying but the commissioner telling a school that they cannot hire a coach because it is too soon sounds illegal. Someone would surely provide the evidence.
bama folks said that's exactly what happened. whether it's 'legal' or not, it wasn't worth it to them to be on the bad side of the sec commissioner.
a fight with sankey damn sure won't be something arkansas would come out on top of. not sure will wade is the guy to test the waters for it anyway, imo.
Call Cal, why not at this point?
Recruiting would be not been a issue and he could help nil
The law of averages says he has to make the final four again
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 03:32 PMCall Cal, why not at this point?
Recruiting would be not been a issue and he could help nil
The law of averages says he has to make the final four again
They can't afford to fire him and he can't afford to quit.
Calipari is washed.
I believe it's a money issue, and only a money issue.
HY is either scouring the top assistants interested in the job or he's trying to settle on an affordable current head coach.
I doubt anyone has turned us down because an established coach would cost too much. The new coach will make the same, or less, than Muss.
https://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1776977025170911626
So we should just legit stop getting used. That's why Wally makes the big bucks.
Yes, we should hire a coach who wants to be our coach.
That's some Kamala-level idiocy right there. Wally's continued employment is why my whole family stopped reading that rag long ago.
I am willing to take the gig and run my famous pentagon offense.
I'd pay good money to see Wally negotiate a coaches deal. Talk big little fella.
Lots of chicken littles on social media today. Just enjoy the ride fellers. Everything is fine...we're a TOP 20 program.
Oh and some guy on twitter said Gus Argenal is a candidate. I liked him when he was here and the team went to shit after he left...
If the 3 wins this last at Oaklawn, I'll have more to chip in on NIL. Looking at a near $50k lick.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 04:54 PMIf the 3 wins this last at Oaklawn, I'll have more to chip in on NIL. Looking at a near $50k lick.
Welp, Darrell Walker it is I guess.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 07, 2024, 03:45 PMCalipari is washed.
Will still be better than walker.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 04:45 PMI am willing to take the gig and run my famous pentagon offense.
Didn't we try that this year? Nothing in the middle.
Mark is gone. Lol. Fire Yuracheeks!!
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 04:29 PMhttps://x.com/WallyLikeItIs/status/1776977025170911626
So we should just legit stop getting used. That's why Wally makes the big bucks.
Listen mister! lol
First time in years the elf has actually been word salad if a current topic.
Tomorrow comes the hire walker, Keith Jackson, his preacher, p.a.r.k. Mom, daughter mega your trusty scribe word salad!
When y'all keep saying the word "Darrell" followed by the word "Walker", are y'all talking about the 63 year old UALR coach that had a head coach winning percentage of .331 in the NBA, .417 in the WNBA, got all the way to the Division II tournament's first round, and after 6 seasons at UALR is winning at a .453 pace with a CBI first round appearance this year?
THAT Darrell Walker? I just want to make sure there's not another Darrell Walker that might be a candidate that I don't know about.
We're hiring someone else. I don't know who, but it won't be that guy.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 05:15 PMMark is gone. Lol. Fire Yuracheeks!!
Oh noes! We did so good with him this last season.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 05:18 PMWhen y'all keep saying the word "Darrell" followed by the word "Walker", are y'all talking about the 63 year old UALR coach that had a head coach winning percentage of .331 in the NBA, .417 in the WNBA, got all the way to the Division II tournament's first round, and after 6 seasons at UALR is winning at a .453 pace with a CBI first round appearance this year?
THAT Darrell Walker? I just want to make sure there's not another Darrell Walker that might be a candidate that I don't know about.
We're hiring someone else. I don't know who, but it won't be that guy.
Not that Darrell Walker. His other brother Darrell. Darrell Walker.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 05:20 PMOh noes! We did so good with him this last season.
I mean I get it, but we're about to hire a coach and tell him we have no players.
That's not ideal.
I hope we can convince Cade Argoblast to stay. Yuracheeks has torpedoed the two primary sports.
Time to go full Billy ocean
https://youtu.be/zNgcYGgtf8M?si=B_UCP4oEXZT4u4_z
If they hire Darrell Walker then that should set up nicely for the new AD to make a more permanent choice in a few years.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 05:36 PMI hope we can convince Cade Argoblast to stay. Yuracheeks has torpedoed the two primary sports.
Too late.
https://x.com/verbalcommits/status/1776301503596446100?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
What a total clusterfuck
Interesting. All leaks/rumors have gone dark for several hours now.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 07, 2024, 06:09 PMWhat a total clusterfuck
Another example of why I'm glad I gave up all my tickets. 90% of your time as an Arkansas fan is misery.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 06:14 PMInteresting. All leaks/rumors have gone dark for several hours now.
Come to Sam's for a beer.
I don't know why everyone is complaining. A lot of you wanted the roster gone. wiped clean. Well there you go.
I guess the Belmont coach kind of missed his window on the big jobs. I don't think he ever made to the hot name darling but he wasn't far from it. Moving to a tougher MVC will do that to you I guess.
Casey Alexander is his name...bald white guy. Basically a young Buzz Williams
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 06:16 PMCome to Sam's for a beer.
Left HS about 2 hours ago.
Muss isn't getting near the nastiness his stupid ass deserves.
I hope he gets ass aids.
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 06:20 PMI don't know why everyone is complaining. A lot of you wanted the roster gone. wiped clean. Well there you go.
I guess the Belmont coach kind of missed his window on the big jobs. I don't think he ever made to the hot name darling but he wasn't far from it. Moving to a tougher MVC will do that to you I guess.
Casey Alexander is his name...bald white guy. Basically a young Buzz Williams
Rick Byrd who preceded him was a helluva coach. Belmont has a solid program.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 06:24 PMMuss isn't getting near the nastiness his stupid ass deserves.
I hope he gets ass aids.
100%.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 07, 2024, 05:26 PMNot that Darrell Walker. His other brother Darrell. Darrell Walker.
Thank goodness. Can't believe my dumbass was even worried.
I'm amazed at the radio silence the last 48 hrs. We went from non stop chatter about Beard to nada.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 06:24 PMMuss isn't getting near the nastiness his stupid ass deserves.
I hope he gets ass aids.
Given his affection for Devo, not an impossibility.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 06:34 PMI'm amazed at the radio silence the last 48 hrs. We went from non stop chatter about Beard to nada.
probably because HY has already been through a list of 10 plus people who all rejected him and he's slowly contemplating whether he should just hire the fville hs coach. The program is fucked. We don't even have a team for anyone to come in and coach at this point. I hope Muss sucks at his usc job and regrets moving.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 07, 2024, 06:42 PMprobably because HY has already been through a list of 10 plus people who all rejected him and he's slowly contemplating whether he should just hire the fville hs coach. The program is fucked. We don't even have a team for anyone to come in and coach at this point. I hope Muss sucks at his usc job and regrets moving.
He said he plans on continuing his 4 mile walks around campus every morning. He'll be dead before summer gets here.
This feels like a Bert "surprise"
https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777115521885843823?t=DxXKXruhiOKpHC3rtZRSQQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777115521885843823?t=DxXKXruhiOKpHC3rtZRSQQ&s=19)
I don't know how much Bobby Bones knows but that gif doesn't evoke a positive surprise.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 06:57 PMI don't know how much Bobby Bones knows but that gif doesn't evoke a positive surprise.
bobby bones doesn't know jackshit. He's a fucking DJ. Even when he used to post on Rick b's board back in the day he didn't know shit or have any sources. He was an idiot
I said Muss would fuck us but I had no idea he'd leave us with not a single player.
Not one kid loved that jersey.
Bobby Bones rubs elbows with a lot of people that might would know what the fuck. I'd trust his concern over a lot of others.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 06:34 PMI'm amazed at the radio silence the last 48 hrs. We went from non stop chatter about Beard to nada.
Yet Woopig, in the last 48 hrs, has kept the rumors, speculation, innuendo, and twatter from random jerk-offs, flowing at a steady rate to keep the Chicken Littles more than enough occupied.
https://x.com/HogBallBlog1/status/1777117300010709240
I can't allow myself to be
A. excited if it did happen
B. I dunno but there's gotta be a B.
I just don't believe that for one second. BUT! Are you getting a rejuvenated Rick Barnes type or are you getting a 65 year old dude who's just here to cash a check?
https://x.com/gusfantastico/status/1777123898019938796?
Is Wade really restricted from recruiting?
i believe the sanctions are for every team that hires him during his show cause. they don't go away just because he got another job. least that's what i've been reading.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 06:24 PMMuss isn't getting near the nastiness his stupid ass deserves.
I hope he gets ass aids.
I bet the LA media won't be as homey as it was here. He might get a tough question or 2.
Yeah that's who we need. A guy who peaked a decade ago and does less with more.
Screw it. Let's just end basketball, tear dow BW and pave it for more parking. Then pour all the basketball money into the football program NIL. Save on paying another losing coach, and maybe getting better football players....maybe.
It'll be a Brad Underwood type hire.
I don't want Cal at all.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 07, 2024, 08:05 PMI don't want Cal at all.
Well, I have great news for you
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 06:55 PMThis feels like a Bert "surprise"
https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777115521885843823?t=DxXKXruhiOKpHC3rtZRSQQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777115521885843823?t=DxXKXruhiOKpHC3rtZRSQQ&s=19)
Yep. I am going to be surprised when we resort to a guy I've never heard of. Wait, no I'm not.
Right now HY is working on giving himself a raise and a larger buyout in case he's fired.
https://x.com/wess_moore/status/1777142544939221176?
This is wild.
Yep its Calipari.
Wow. Just wow. That's a headline nationally.
His wife is from the area and wants to get back here close to family.
John Calipari is a Razorback folks.
So Beard is UK's new coach, right?
Weird. Well at least he can crawl away from Kentucky to Arkansas completing the circle. Hopefully the paid Walker and Jans to be dummy interviews.
Cal has way more coaching chops than anyone gives credit for. Let's fucking gooooo
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 08:27 PMCal has way more coaching chops than anyone gives credit for. Let's fucking gooooo
Yep I'm stoked. It's John fuckin Calipari baby.
Dude can flat recruit and he'll have something to prove here!
WoooPiggggSoooiiieeee!!!
This can't really be happening. Can it? Nah.
He's not leaving over 30 mill on the table at KY. That's ridiculous.
Are people actually believing that shit? Come on.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Apr 07, 2024, 08:31 PMHe's not leaving over 30 mill on the table at KY. That's ridiculous.
But we have world famous catfish
I don't think Wess is the type to throw bullshit out there.
I feel like a dummy if I believe it or if I don't. Weird
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 08:32 PMI don't think Wess is the type to throw bullshit out there.
I'd agree with this
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 07, 2024, 08:31 PMAre people actually believing that shit? Come on.
It's Gruden-level gullibility.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Apr 07, 2024, 08:31 PMHe's not leaving over 30 mill on the table at KY. That's ridiculous.
they will negotiate a settlement on his buyout that makes both happy.
Would also think Tyson has kicked in some $$$ - Cal and John are buds and they are always at Herman's when the jellies come here.
Plus Cal's record in BWA is pretty good of late.
Also he is National PR bonanza for us.
they should bring home Pelphrey.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 08:34 PMI feel like a dummy if I believe it or if I don't. Weird
This is me. I don't have any fucking idea what is going on.
Reminds me of Petrino to Arkansas. No. Shirley this is bullshit. Shirley.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 08:36 PMthey will negotiate a settlement on his buyout that makes both happy.
Would also think Tyson has kicked in some $$$ - Cal and John are buds and they are always at Herman's when the jellies come here.
Plus Cal's record in BWA is pretty good of late.
Also he is National PR bonanza for us.
they should bring home Pelphrey.
Pel is having a nice bleed over at Tennessee Tech.
I want you to put the word out there. We back up.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 08:27 PMCal has way more coaching chops than anyone gives credit for. Let's fucking gooooo
Absolutely.
He's 65 and only has a few more years, but he'll fill up the roster with talent immediately and he can win with them.
He's a legend, and likely he'll retire here (assuming this is real).
Quote from: Piggielicious on Apr 07, 2024, 08:31 PMHe's not leaving over 30 mill on the table at KY. That's ridiculous.
cal is rich as shit. i highly doubt this is legit but he would make that with a 5 or 6 year contract.
he owes kentucky nothing if he leaves.
https://x.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777150474551960054
if it breaks on the KY jelly side, this guy will have it. yet being the key word I think which makes me think it is possible.
the leak is coming from LR so I am guessing someone on the BOT is the source.
who's the BOT member who is "assisting" hunter?
not the first time we've reached out to Cal. We tried to hire him to replace Heath and he almost bit. the big money tried circling the money wagon then and most are still here.
This is a home run and fuck anyone who says any different.
Big time home run. BIG BIG HOME RUN!!
Shocker to the college basketball world. Now Dan Wolken is tweeting the smoke.
Also getting out on Rivals now. This is crazy.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 07, 2024, 08:43 PMAbsolutely.
He's 65 and only has a few more years, but he'll fill up the roster with talent immediately and he can win with them.
He's a legend, and likely he'll retire here (assuming this is real).
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 07, 2024, 08:43 PMAbsolutely.
He's 65 and only has a few more years, but he'll fill up the roster with talent immediately and he can win with them.
He's a legend, and likely he'll retire here (assuming this is real).
When Mike played against him in the SEC title game and they had him mic'd up "you know they won't do anything worth a shit offensively." That's when I changed my tune on him. He's got that dog in him. He'll be hungry.
Kentucky fans would be thrilled if he left.
https://x.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777151801659097203
We're so fucking back. I won't call him Yuracheeks anymore.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 08:49 PMWhen Mike played against him in the SEC title game and they had him mic'd up "you know they won't do anything worth a shit offensively." That's when I changed my tune on him. He's got that dog in him. He'll be hungry.
I went to the UK-Ark game in Fayetteville in 2022 and we stayed at the Graduate, having no idea it was the UK team hotel. It was icy as hell on the way up and around town that night.
Got in the elevator with him and a young teenage boy who was with the team (manager or ballboy?). We were decked out in all red the morning of the game (heading to eat lunch on the square) and he was all class and complimentary of our fans and program and we discussed the Juwan Howard situation for a bit as the kid brought it up.
In my mind I always thought he was a pretentious dick, but after meeting him I have to admit I really liked him.
So, for many reasons I do hope it's him.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 07, 2024, 08:50 PMKentucky fans would be thrilled if he left.
They will be, but I bet they won't do better.
Kentucky owes him a fortune if they fired him. If he's our next coach we are paying him well but also rest assured he's hungry because he could walk with more money than most of us earn in our careers (and he's already got plenty).
Seems a but early to say we're back when nothing is confirmed
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 07, 2024, 08:58 PMSeems a but early to say we're back when nothing is confirmed
We have a history of getting coaches nice extensions in similar situations.
Auburn wasn't loving Gus but overpaid him when we came calling.
So if we land John, will those who hated on HY apologize?
Kentucky fans are fickle. They expect a championship every year. He may tired of their ungrateful asses.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 07, 2024, 08:55 PMI went to the UK-Ark game in Fayetteville in 2022 and we stayed at the Graduate, having no idea it was the UK team hotel. It was icy as hell on the way up and around town that night.
Got in the elevator with him and a young teenage boy who was with the team (manager or ballboy?). We were decked out in all red the morning of the game (heading to eat lunch on the square) and he was all class and complimentary of our fans and program and we discussed the Juwan Howard situation for a bit as the kid brought it up.
In my mind I always thought he was a pretentious dick, but after meeting him I have to admit I really liked him.
So, for many reasons I do hope it's him.
100%. He's always spoken highly of us remember when he was on ESPN saying our job is a top 10 job in the country.
https://x.com/RowlandRIVALS/status/1777146810336710657
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 07, 2024, 08:59 PMSo if we land John, will those who hated on HY apologize?
Not only that but I'll donate $5.00 to Edge.
He was great when recruiting didn't involve NIL. Idk about now?
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 07, 2024, 09:01 PMNot only that but I'll donate $5.00 to Edge.
5 dollars a month even.
https://x.com/CBBcontent/status/1777155526192730564
I remember being in high school and opening up a SI (or maybe ESPN magazine) and reading about Cal and his iteration of the dribble-drive motion in his early Memphis days. Was always a fan of his since then, to the point of at least not hating him while he's at Kentucky... except for when he's playing Arkansas. Fuck him on those days.
Cons: He's old-ish and the style is so common now.
Pros: Have you seen the facilities at Kentucky, that were paid for by the success of his recruiting and winning a shit load of games?
It's funny though. Cal would cost more than double what Muss got paid. Maybe $10mill. For that kind of money almost any coach would take the job.
Why Cal? Why not someone younger? Unless this is one rich man's dream of a hire that won't pay for anyone else.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 07, 2024, 09:10 PMIt's funny though. Cal would cost more than double what Muss got paid. Maybe $10mill. For that kind of money almost any coach would take the job.
Why Cal? Why not someone younger? Unless this is one rich man's dream of a hire that won't pay for anyone else.
The latter, if it comes to that
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 07, 2024, 09:02 PMHe was great when recruiting didn't involve NIL. Idk about now?
He had the #1 class in the country last year.
If it does come to pass, there will be multiple SEC teams shitting their pants about their coach leaving for UK
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 07, 2024, 09:10 PMWhy Cal? Why not someone younger? Unless this is one rich man's dream of a hire that won't pay for anyone else.
Seems like he brings a lot to the table in our current predicament of not having a team.
Lets be honest this has the feel of a retirement gig for Cal. BUT I think he's still got it enough to get to a final four or two. I don't see Ark paying 10 mil per though.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 07, 2024, 09:10 PMIt's funny though. Cal would cost more than double what Muss got paid. Maybe $10mill. For that kind of money almost any coach would take the job.
Why Cal? Why not someone younger? Unless this is one rich man's dream of a hire that won't pay for anyone else.
someone on the rant said he is good friends with one of the big swinging dicks.
if this somehow turns out to be true, then yurachek didn't go thru jans, tang, or maybe even beard to 'fall back' on cal.
it would not have been a "hey john, everybody turned me down, you wanna be our coach"? situation.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 07, 2024, 09:14 PMSeems like he brings a lot to the table in our current predicament of not having a team.
If someone's flipping the bill for Cal then maybe NIL money will be there as well. The roster may refill quickly.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 07, 2024, 09:15 PMsomeone on the rant said he is good friends with one of the big swinging dicks.
if this somehow turns out to be true, then yurachek didn't go thru jans, tang, or maybe even beard to 'fall back' on cal.
it would not have been a "hey john, everybody turned me down, you wanna be our coach"? situation.
Might have been. HY might never have considered it a possibility, and then someone like Tyson reached out and Cal said he was interested
Chance to catch lightning in a bottle in a three year window with a guy who will be hungry. We're back up.
https://twitter.com/agershon99/status/1777156060769316934?t=my0rYhJccM3JBgnzoVvDkg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/agershon99/status/1777156060769316934?t=my0rYhJccM3JBgnzoVvDkg&s=19)
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 09:14 PMLets be honest this has the feel of a retirement gig for Cal. BUT I think he's still got it enough to get to a final four or two. I don't see Ark paying 10 mil per though.
it would mean that the Tyson family is back in the Razorback game. John has been on the sidelines after getting crossways with Long. This is huge.
https://x.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/571518890142015488
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 07, 2024, 09:15 PMsomeone on the rant said he is good friends with one of the big swinging dicks.
if this somehow turns out to be true, then yurachek didn't go thru jans, tang, or maybe even beard to 'fall back' on cal.
it would not have been a "hey john, everybody turned me down, you wanna be our coach"? situation.
If it's Cal, there likely have been intentional leaks to divert attention elsewhere.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 09:18 PMhttps://twitter.com/agershon99/status/1777156060769316934?t=my0rYhJccM3JBgnzoVvDkg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/agershon99/status/1777156060769316934?t=my0rYhJccM3JBgnzoVvDkg&s=19)
This is coming from multiple Kentucky writers now.
ketucky media is reporting there's talks going on.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 07, 2024, 09:15 PMsomeone on the rant said he is good friends with one of the big swinging dicks.
if this somehow turns out to be true, then yurachek didn't go thru jans, tang, or maybe even beard to 'fall back' on cal.
it would not have been a "hey john, everybody turned me down, you wanna be our coach"? situation.
Talk about misdirection. Houdiniesque.
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Apr 07, 2024, 09:14 PMIf it does come to pass, there will be multiple SEC teams shitting their pants about their coach leaving for UK
That's what's going to be the most entertaining thing if this happens.
How far is the crawl from Lexington to Fayetteville? I wonder if it's the same that way as it is the other direction.
Any coach we get probably has a 3 or 4 year window like the one that left, may as well get one that knows what to purchase when buying a team.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 07, 2024, 09:21 PMThat's what's going to be the most entertaining thing if this happens.
Would expect them to get Oats, but selfishly would love for it to be Beard just to see Ole Miss get dicked.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 07, 2024, 09:25 PMWould expect them to get Oats, but selfishly would love for it to be Beard just to see Ole Miss get dicked.
If that happens Beard will fuckin love Arkansas forever.
kentucky fans on the rant say if this happens, uk will throw however much it takes at oats. shit could get real interesting.
https://x.com/ArkansasOnline/status/1777159451868295257
What are our chances of landing Malik Monk at now
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 07, 2024, 09:32 PMWhat are our chances of landing Malik Monk at now
and archie goodwin
Calipari doesn't excite me much. Seems like a retirement move.
He's 65.
Quote from: wmr on Apr 07, 2024, 09:34 PMCalipari doesn't excite me much. Seems like a retirement move.
He's 65.
its better than the fucking HS fville coach or walker.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 07, 2024, 09:36 PMits better than the fucking HS fville coach or walker.
Neither of those were real possibilities.
Cal could retire there in a year and they will have to pay him a fortune to buy him out. If he comes he's leaving that buyout cash behind.
If he's coming here, he's still hungry.
It brings momentum back to the program. If he stays 5 years and gracefully retires, the program should be in a better spot to move forward.
4 d chess.
Would love to throw as many teams into turmoil as possible.
https://x.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777163457718083991
jerry is also kicking in some cash as well as Tyson.
Tyson is the da man circling the money people. if they get it done, everyone needs to eat more Tyson chicken.
https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1777164452145865169
If Cal is announced tomorrow I will drive straight to the nearest Walmart and buy enough Tyson chicken to load the freezer.
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1777164450086392111
CBS writer, sorry about the duplicate
Norlander is a trustful national guy.
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1777164452145865169?t=uCyBrgSFRS8_X3X2xmIJ7Q&s=19 (https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1777164452145865169?t=uCyBrgSFRS8_X3X2xmIJ7Q&s=19)
Quote from: wmr on Apr 07, 2024, 09:37 PMNeither of those were real possibilities.
I was hating it. But if he has an ax to grind I think it might work out.
https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777165092452176171?t=pWjuLTwan6WDfek9yWlZKw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777165092452176171?t=pWjuLTwan6WDfek9yWlZKw&s=19)
So it's really happening
if this falls through, the riots and tanks Nolan predicted will roll!!!
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 09:48 PMif this falls through, the riots and tanks Nolan predicted will roll!!!
Stakes will be burned at the Yurachek estate.
https://x.com/247ChrisHoops/status/1777153147061821871
Quote from: heretopaint on Apr 07, 2024, 09:45 PMI was hating it. But if he has an ax to grind I think it might work out.
GFY.
I halfway expect the hire to be made and with the eclipse comes a full scale alien invasion.
If this does happen, can someone PLEASE block Bob from the presser?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 09:50 PMStakes will be burned at the Yurachek estate.
Yurachek would need armed protection 24/7 if Cal is playing him.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 07, 2024, 09:52 PMIf this does happen, can someone PLEASE block Bob from the presser?
yeah, one of the moneybags needs to buy him out.
a years with of pizza and some clean shirts should do it.
Prayers for hunter's horses if it falls through
I guess if Tyson wants him here, they'll be throwing $$$$$$ at NIL so they look like they did the right thing.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1777168265485361453
https://x.com/trillydonovan/status/1777168210300752171
Best thing they've put out yet.
https://twitter.com/ArkansasEdgeNIL/status/1777168120148312248?t=kF7IlfKpEO_z9LbsLwcMEQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ArkansasEdgeNIL/status/1777168120148312248?t=kF7IlfKpEO_z9LbsLwcMEQ&s=19)
Quote from: animal on Apr 07, 2024, 09:52 PMI halfway expect the hire to be made and with the eclipse comes a full scale alien invasion.
That would be appropriate.
If this is legit, and it looks like it is, and if Cal gets cold feet, hopefully the money men are still vested in the program in order to save it.
Quote from: wmr on Apr 07, 2024, 09:57 PMI guess if Tyson wants him here, they'll be throwing $$$$$$ at NIL so they look like they did the right thing.
if he can bring the type of recruits he gets, those kids get national deals right out of high school.
but yeah, you'd have to think that's one of the things that has been discussed.
KSR spaces on x makes a great point - If Cal is talking to us (which he is as he has told them), how does he stay in Lexington?
Do we make him call the Hogs at the first press conference?
Cal had the top recruiting class.How many will follow him? Other UK players?
Would Marks and Battle change their minds?
It's about to get batshit crazy.
who is this guy?
https://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1777169408743309818
also, if true - tell me we are NOT a BASKETBALL SCHOOL.
Feels a lot like Petrino. I don't care for Cal but he would be our asshole and not the other team's asshole.
Don't know him.
Can you imagine Bud Walton next year when Cal is our coach?
It's going to be pandemonium. I'm telling you this is a big time development and we're cemented by this as a big big time player in college basketball.
Louisville didn't pull this off.
Holy shit.
8 million a year
If true, someone decided football was a lost cause and we've gone all-in on basketball.
https://twitter.com/WarMachine2013/status/1777156614115770846?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777156614115770846%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 10:09 PMwho is this guy?
https://x.com/RealRobReinhart/status/1777169408743309818
That's Kentucky's basketball coach, John 'Coach Cal' Calipari.
Rumor is at least $6M towards NIL
Thank you Tyson.
Now if we can just get a Walton to give a crap about Football.
I know everybody says Calipari is 65 and finished, but he has been coaching for 35 years and has only missed the NCAA tournament 6 or 7 times.
https://twitter.com/TreySchaap/status/1777172336854118450
this looks like it's true.
lol
https://x.com/kysportsradio/status/1777173956878827721?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
At least we wont have to worry about the head coach going shirtless on national television.
Also this
https://x.com/mattnorlander/status/1777172811565736054?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
https://x.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777173843162907081
Looks like it's happening. I won't count it til confirmed. But I like it. He's a great recruiter.
This tees the program up like no other hire. It is a game Changer.
If this happens then HY has a plan. Hopefully he has a similar stroke of genius for December for our new football coach.
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1777174977424368043
Tyson made this happen while Hunter ate chicken nuggets in the corner. What John wants, John gets.
I brought home some Gibson's Donuts today, guess it was meant to be. He flys in to Memphis just to go to Gibson's
I just want him to say he'd crawl to coach at Arkansas
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1777175201589149951
https://x.com/CBBcontent/status/1777174710125490562
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1777174492034601010
Wanna laugh? I was watching part of the field of 68 show earlier. The talk was who would Arkansas would turn to after Beard and Tang. Goodman was all Jans or McMillan yada yada. He at least was saying we were the 2nd best program in the SEC. Rest of the cast disagreed. Randolph Childress chimes and says we may have to hire an assistant because no P5 coach would want to leave for our job. Fuck off
After this, I expect nothing less than urban Meyer to replace Sam Pittman.
Maybe we can field a team next year, after all. Next step: players.
8 million. Damn, maybe we are finally ready to compete with the big boys. That would make us the second highest paying basketball coaching gig in the country.
DFW media and everyone else in America picking up the story.
Fuck yeah.
All apologies to Mr Yurachek. Well played, ser.
We needed a massive hire to keep current plans for a BWA renovation/upgrade.
Other than maybe Beard, nobody else would get that done. Cal will.
That accounts for at least some of the salary. I'm sure Tyson went all in as well.
Now hitting ESPN.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1777176322516693154
I expect Hunter to wear a tyson chicken outfit for the rest of his tenure.
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1777176924210765850
On sports center
I'm donating $6,969 to the edge collective
some of you can continue to hate on yurchek, but regardless of how it came about, the university of arkansas just sent chaos into the college basketball world.
Guess I'll be hitting up the Walmart chicken freezer in the morning.
1st real gangster move ever.
Kentucky was ready to get rid of him...don't know if they wanted him gone to poor little old Arky.
lol
https://x.com/khalifbattle24/status/1777177591025115267?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 10:31 PMGuess I'll be hitting up the Walmart chicken freezer in the morning.
Southern style breaded tenders.
This one is mine...line.jpg
https://twitter.com/khalifbattle24/status/1777177591025115267?t=KHugAHQy9pe0XPG9rMhXwQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/khalifbattle24/status/1777177591025115267?t=KHugAHQy9pe0XPG9rMhXwQ&s=19)
https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1777179010356871338
Woopig NIL collective...I wanna see the old school shirt in shootaround
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 07, 2024, 10:40 PMWoopig NIL collective...I wanna see the old school shirt in shootaround
stfu
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 07, 2024, 10:31 PMsome of you can continue to hate on yurchek, but regardless of how it came about, the university of arkansas just sent chaos into the college basketball world.
Breaking news on the ESPN app. It's official and it's a massive story in college basketball right now. Absolutely wild ride this coaching search has been.
I have nothing to of value to say, except this is fucking crazy.
I wonder how Muss is taking these numbers.
None of this would be possible if somehow John Tyson wasn't buddies with Calipari.
Cal was looking for a way out and Muss leaving put it in his lap.
Don't be so sure this didn't factor into HY letting Muss go.
All of this started because SMU stole USC's coach.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 07, 2024, 10:39 PMhttps://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1777179010356871338
Assurance to accept transfers and the freshman class?
WE DON'T HAVE A FUCKING BASKETBALL TEAM.
So, uh, yeah, sure.
What was our NIL the last few years?
I want to care again.
I don't hear any of you "let's fire Yurachek" people chiming in.
Will be interesting to see what his staff is and who tries to come back from the portal and who gets to.
Recruiting just went to another level. We are going to have some nba dudes.
Thank you John Tyson.
Time to put the slobber hog back at midcourt.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 07, 2024, 10:51 PMWhat was our NIL the last few years?
https://twitter.com/andy_staples/status/1777168299765154249?s=46&t=4udxXFAgq5pQvGP7jbfo5w
the "especially when certain big donors are motivated" is the important stuff.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 07, 2024, 10:50 PMAssurance to accept transfers and the freshman class?
WE DON'T HAVE A FUCKING BASKETBALL TEAM.
So, uh, yeah, sure.
We have one player and you want to bring the #1 recruiting class?
I guess we'll cave to that demand.
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https://twitter.com/KevinGarnett5KG/status/1777177935977267636?t=FhSjQWPHg70Vm8Oz3lahPA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/KevinGarnett5KG/status/1777177935977267636?t=FhSjQWPHg70Vm8Oz3lahPA&s=19)
So reminiscent of the Petrino hire - out of nowhere and breaking later in the night.
Made the ESPN.com front page back then, too.
Anyone know how that NIL projection compares to what Kentucky has been spending?
https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1777178974172357102?t=oaIy6ZZ43uvdAQYmLJ0qmg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1777178974172357102?t=oaIy6ZZ43uvdAQYmLJ0qmg&s=19)
We're gonna win a natty. Or we're gonna be the most talent mediocre team there ever was. Either way, I'm exited to see how it plays out.
Going to have to upgrade our Italian restaurants in NWA.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 07, 2024, 11:08 PMGoing to have to upgrade our Italian restaurants in NWA.
Just wait until he gets a load of Tontitown.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 07, 2024, 10:33 PMlol
https://x.com/khalifbattle24/status/1777177591025115267?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
If I had a twatter, I would have twatted
"Congrats Battle, Well Deserved <3"
I'd like to see the look on Muss face when he heard.
Hopefully if both schools make the tournament they get put in the same bracket.
When Cal was at Memphis, the local media used to ask him frequently about scheduling Arkansas, and his stock answer always was, "Why would we do that? We want a national schedule."
Full circle.
I'm just glad one of our billionaire boosters finally decided to slap his pecker down on the table and dare someone to measure it.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 07, 2024, 11:08 PMJust wait until he gets a load of Tontitown.
Eh... Vetro on Center St in Fay is pretty titties.
I don't think he's the coach he once was.
But this move is instant elevated recruiting, recognition, and legitimacy to the program. Arkansas will be covered because the talking heads want to talk about Calipari. He will make the job even better for the next guy.
Strategically it destabilizes KY and whoever KY plucks their coach from, likely Oates. What a shockwave.
Just wow.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 07, 2024, 11:15 PMI'm just glad one of our billionaire boosters finally decided to slap his pecker down on the table and dare someone to measure it.
I wish someone would do that for football.
Maybe Beard playing us woke them up a little bit. Getting played by someone to stay at Ole Miss was likely a nice reality check.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 07, 2024, 11:13 PMWhen Cal was at Memphis, the local media used to ask him frequently about scheduling Arkansas, and his stock answer always was, "Why would we do that? We want a national schedule."
Full circle.
I remember that. Hated the prick ever since. Now he's our prick. Love it.
It's a massive hire. Massive.
There's no way to not be over the moon because this has never happened to us before.
We are in uncharted waters and no longer can be called "little Ole Arkiesaw".
What a great day to be a Razorback fan.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 07, 2024, 03:32 PMCall Cal, why not at this point?
Recruiting would be not been a issue and he could help nil
The law of averages says he has to make the final four again
Obviously Mr Tyson reads woopig.
Some of the tweets say he will have up to 6 million a year in NIL money.
Somebody is coming through.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/612889789330620464/1226735793478041712/12376469.png?ex=6625d9bc&is=661364bc&hm=fc132abc4e58e9c5c4c8fb43f179d8e1bf8e9b2f3ab0b0b8b7983aeec22534f8&)
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 07, 2024, 11:21 PMI don't think he's the coach he once was.
But this move is instant elevated recruiting, recognition, and legitimacy to the program. Arkansas will be covered because the talking heads want to talk about Calipari. He will make the job even better for the next guy.
Strategically it destabilizes KY and whoever KY plucks their coach from, likely Oates. What a shockwave.
Just wow.
He's still a helluva recruiter. I think he needed to shake up his assistants, but he's still far better than all these mehs that were on our radar. I can't believe someone that I've hated so much will be coaching the Hogs. Buckle up, y'all.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 07, 2024, 11:08 PMGoing to have to upgrade our Italian restaurants in NWA.
Huh? There's an Olive Garden and a Razorback Pizza.
Poor Ashley Judd.
Seeing the big guys want to throw money to make Arkansas a contender makes me want to cry.
I didn't think I'd ever see that happen.
Hunter made headlines and deserves recognition. I have said my fair share.
Well, I think we can all agree that Hunter dragged his ballz all over the board with this hire.
Dear HY: Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber and then do something like this.... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF
It's been a long time since I turned on morning sports radio on the drive in.
All 6 channels on XM were full time Arkansas/Cal.
Obviously, time will tell if this pans out. Immediately, though, this is a great 'get' for the program. Beard and what's-his-face at Kansas State look bush league, IMO. So does Muss, fucking midget-ass pussy bitch. Went to Southern Cal b/c he's 'from there?' Pfft. We all know it's b/c pickle-kissing players are the norm out there. Probably wants to play tummy sticks with Jim Rome.
Calipari took this job because he believes he can take it all the way to the top. The worry with Cal is of course his age, but he still looks high energy. Coming to a school that can win at a high level, but that doesn't want to slit your throat after every year you don't make the Final Four, is going to be the type of fresh start for a final ride that a guy like him wants.
There's no question that this is a "home run hire." There's not a bigger name that could have been snagged by the Hogs. In terms of immediate news and impact, this is bigger than when Kermit reeled in Bobby Motherfucking Petrino.
As fans, I think that we should be over the moon. I apologize for any negative things I said or thought about HY for this or the shit with Pittman the last year. Whether it's Tyson money or Jerry Jones or whoever, it doesn't matter. Yurachek is the AD and he got it done for the program and the fans.
Kentucky is not going to hire away the coaches at UNC, Duke, Kansas, etc. They won't be hiring Nate Oats. The level of vitriol that you can get immediately at Kentucky is the type that even top coaches don't want to bother with. But who cares? That's Kentucky's problem now. If they're not able to snag Donovan from Chicago, there will be bed-shitting and frothing there on day one for whoever else they get.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Apr 08, 2024, 06:19 AMObviously, time will tell if this pans out. Immediately, though, this is a great 'get' for the program. Beard and what's-his-face at Kansas State look bush league, IMO. So does Muss, fucking midget-ass pussy bitch. Went to Southern Cal b/c he's 'from there?' Pfft. We all know it's b/c pickle-kissing players are the norm out there. Probably wants to play tummy sticks with Jim Rome.
Calipari took this job because he believes he can take it all the way to the top. The worry with Cal is of course his age, but he still looks high energy. Coming to a school that can win at a high level, but that doesn't want to slit your throat after every year you don't make the Final Four, is going to be the type of fresh start for a final ride that a guy like him wants.
There's no question that this is a "home run hire." There's not a bigger name that could have been snagged by the Hogs. In terms of immediate news and impact, this is bigger than when Kermit reeled in Bobby Motherfucking Petrino.
As fans, I think that we should be over the moon. I apologize for any negative things I said or thought about HY for this or the shit with Pittman the last year. Whether it's Tyson money or Jerry Jones or whoever, it doesn't matter. Yurachek is the AD and he got it done for the program and the fans.
Kentucky is not going to hire away the coaches at UNC, Duke, Kansas, etc. They won't be hiring Nate Oats. The level of vitriol that you can get immediately at Kentucky is the type that even top coaches don't want to bother with. But who cares? That's Kentucky's problem now. If they're not able to snag Donovan from Chicago, there will be bed-shitting and frothing there on day one for whoever else they get.
So this is what it takes to get some folks crawling out of the woodwork.
It's been a minute.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 04:52 AMWell, I think we can all agree that Hunter dragged his ballz all over the board with this hire.
This looks more like Hunter swung and missed and the adults had to step in per usual and save the day. Maybe Hunter had something to do with that but it's almost like there were two searches going on. When he brought Tang, Jans, and Walker into the picture they told him to just go have a seat.
I won't be surprised if HY is invited to go find another gig in the next 12 months.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 08, 2024, 06:29 AMSo this is what it takes to get some folks crawling out of the woodwork.
It's been a minute.
I've been in prison.
This might be the worst sentence ever written.
Calipari has spent the past 15 seasons as the leader of the Wildcats program and would remain in the SEC to succeed Eric Musselman, who took the vacant job at USC earlier this month if he were to accept an offer to become Arkansas' next coach.
This has been your Moment of Grammar. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 06:38 AMThis might be the worst sentence ever written.
Calipari has spent the past 15 seasons as the leader of the Wildcats program and would remain in the SEC to succeed Eric Musselman, who took the vacant job at USC earlier this month if he were to accept an offer to become Arkansas' next coach.
This has been your Moment of Grammar. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions.
If it's from SI then it is AI.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Apr 08, 2024, 06:40 AMIf it's from SI then it is AI.
AI wouldn't make that mistake, AI can pick up on grammar.
The lead story on cbssports.com with a byline Cameron Salerno.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 06:38 AMThis might be the worst sentence ever written.
Calipari has spent the past 15 seasons as the leader of the Wildcats program and would remain in the SEC to succeed Eric Musselman, who took the vacant job at USC earlier this month if he were to accept an offer to become Arkansas' next coach.
This has been your Moment of Grammar. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions.
A lot of people are fortunate that high school diplomas don't require renewal like driver's licenses
I know when sending a txt message and allowing google to translate...it's always an adventure what the fuck google thinks you said. Jesus.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 06:35 AMThis looks more like Hunter swung and missed and the adults had to step in per usual and save the day. Maybe Hunter had something to do with that but it's almost like there were two searches going on. When he brought Tang, Jans, and Walker into the picture they told him to just go have a seat.
I won't be surprised if HY is invited to go find another gig in the next 12 months.
To be fair, we don't know if HY approached Tang, Jans, or Walker. I think it is a certainty that he approached Beard.
I wonder if this wasn't in play for a while. Talk about perfect timing. It lead on the late Sports Center last night (11:30). They'd just finished a hockey game, earlier had the Women's Championship, the Men's Championship is tomorrow night. They led with us. It will be the talk all day today I bet, and will likely get some coverage in the pre-game tonight and a mention in the game too. Meanwhile, all the people that had "the scoop" were posting stuff that totally deflected away from what was going on. If this happened on purpose, it was a pretty skillful management of the process by HY.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 08, 2024, 07:24 AMI wonder if this wasn't in play for a while. Talk about perfect timing. It lead on the late Sports Center last night (11:30). They'd just finished a hockey game, earlier had the Women's Championship, the Men's Championship is tomorrow night. They led with us. It will be the talk all day today I bet, and will likely get some coverage in the pre-game tonight and a mention in the game too. Meanwhile, all the people that had "the scoop" were posting stuff that totally deflected away from what was going on. If this happened on purpose, it was a pretty skillful management of the process by HY.
I agree. This will keep us in the news for a good reason for a while, although I am not sure how successful he will ultimately be.
Y'all HY haters can hate away. The man apparently was playing 3D chess while y'all were playing checkers with Gans and Wade.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 06:35 AMThis looks more like Hunter swung and missed and the adults had to step in per usual and save the day. Maybe Hunter had something to do with that but it's almost like there were two searches going on. When he brought Tang, Jans, and Walker into the picture they told him to just go have a seat.
I won't be surprised if HY is invited to go find another gig in the next 12 months.
I'm not buying this. Last time the bigs got involved we ended up with Chad Morris.
Quote from: CardHog on Apr 08, 2024, 07:53 AMI'm not buying this. Last time the bigs got involved we ended up with Chad Morris.
John Tyson made this hire, not Yurachek.
Cal in place of George
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Tspdoouns
Good timing too for him to swagger in to the Red White game on Saturday.
This is the ultimate spend money to make money kind of thing though. The excitement around Muss had went away. I think the big money felt like he hit his ceiling and weren't willing to fork it over.
Cal is past his prime no doubt but I would take him over a good many coaches including Muss. And I'm no Cal fan
For those of us playing at home, let me see if I get this right. When things look to be going to shit, Hunter is at fault. When we hire a big name and make a big splash, Hunter gets no credit. Is that the correct answer?
From the New York Times comments about the hire: "Kentucky fans would be so mad if they could read this". :D
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 08:05 AMFor those of us playing at home, let me see if I get this right. When things look to be going to shit, Hunter is at fault. When we hire a big name and make a big splash, Hunter gets no credit. Is that the correct answer?
Yeah, it's definitely heads I win, tails you lose.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Apr 06, 2024, 11:24 AMWe don't know jack shit about what's going on behind the scenes. Most everybody on this board is getting upset over a bunch of internet speculation. HY is getting raked over the coals because of a bunch of hyperspace bullshit. I would suggest some of you take the strongest chill pill you can find until the hire is done and then you can bitch, cry, wail, and moan to your heart's content. I'm not a big HY fan because of the Pittman extension, but until the hire is made, I'm not ready to call him a disaster either.
In today's game, NIL rules and because of that, a lot of power has been taken out of the AD's hands and has been given to the boosters. Booster A will give $$$ for certain coaches, but not others. Booster B doesn't like the coaches booster A does and will only give $$$ for other coaches, and so on and so on. The AD has been relegated to trying to hire the coach that would attract the most NIL money.
This guy's a freaking genius. I think he should get lifetime free dues on Woopig for this. ;D
Commitments to Kentucky/Cal :
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Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 06:38 AMThis might be the worst sentence ever written.
Calipari has spent the past 15 seasons as the leader of the Wildcats program and would remain in the SEC to succeed Eric Musselman, who took the vacant job at USC earlier this month if he were to accept an offer to become Arkansas' next coach.
This has been your Moment of Grammar. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions.
Let me guess, Wally?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 08:05 AMFor those of us playing at home, let me see if I get this right. When things look to be going to shit, Hunter is at fault. When we hire a big name and make a big splash, Hunter gets no credit. Is that the correct answer?
It's also amazing how quickly went from saying they'd never support Cal as a Hog coach to many cupping his balls.
no way HY threw this together in the last 24-36 hours, this had to be in the works for some time. All the rumors were bullshit, but I'd bet we did contact Beard.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 08:05 AMFor those of us playing at home, let me see if I get this right. When things look to be going to shit, Hunter is at fault. When we hire a big name and make a big splash, Hunter gets no credit. Is that the correct answer?
If he would have hired someone like Beard then sure he gets the credit. John Tyson's friendship with Cal and the fact that he is putting up a majority of the 5 million in NIL promised kind of points to Tyson being behind this does it not?
Who now does Kentucky go after?
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 08:13 AMIt's also amazing how quickly went from saying they'd never support Cal as a Hog coach to many cupping his balls.
We are a fickle bunch.
I was texting with a forum member about Cal and I realized my dislike really boils down to playing against him and few sound bites he has given over the years. I don't really have any reason not to like him.
I also told said member that from a basketball coach perspective, I like Cal much more than I like Muss. So this is fantastic for me as a fan of the game.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 08:22 AMWill Wade
Tang and Walker are also viable options.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 21, 2024, 09:43 PMIf, and it's a big if, Muss left and UK fired Cal we would be an intriguing destination if he still wanted to coach.
Do I get partial credit for this?
I'm going to laugh hard if they are "allowed" to hire Will Wade. The simple money would have been to do that...take him at a bargain basement price and give him an ass ton of NIL money. That we didn't hit that birdie says he was off limits. Will be interesting who gets to knock it on in.
Also amazing how all that 2 year ban shit went away fast. Whoever was spreading that shit around needs to be called out
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:24 AMDo I get partial credit for this?
Take it all. Nice prognosticating.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 08:22 AMWe are a fickle bunch.
Eh, message boards are like 24-hour news, we're going to talk about and react to rumors and fill the space up somehow.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 08:13 AMIt's also amazing how quickly went from saying they'd never support Cal as a Hog coach to many cupping his balls.
You typically hate the one's that kick your ass.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 08, 2024, 08:25 AMEh, message boards are like 24-hour news, we're going to talk about and react to rumors and fill the space up somehow.
I'm not saying it is a bad thing. I've enjoyed the board over the last few days.
As we know all know, not even an official presser make this official official. We had a previous dance with Cal when he was at Memphis after Heath.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 08:20 AMIf he would have hired someone like Beard then sure he gets the credit. John Tyson's friendship with Cal and the fact that he is putting up a majority of the 5 million in NIL promised kind of points to Tyson being behind this does it not?
Tyson and big money guys are always "behind" any hiring. This is apparently happening on Yurachek's watch, so he should get the credit. Remember, if it turns out badly, you won't blame Tyson, you will blame Yurachek.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 08:21 AMWho now does Kentucky go after?
Travis Ford and Mark Pope are getting early play, no idea why. They should hire Pel. lol
Have to think Barnhart (AD) has had a list - depends on the money they can raise - we've set the bar for NIL and that will rankle them which is good. It's a hard job and an insane fan base - hell some are calling for the return of slick rick.
I would imagine they take a swing at Scott Drew and make him say no.
We play at Rupp next year, that would be one road trip more than worth making.
we also go to Maui again in 2027, that is one trip that I would encourage everyone to make and with Cal as our coach that will be one of hell of time. Don't get the UA booster package get the all tournament one so you get tickets to all games and sit behind the goal.
What if the John Tyson/HY plan was always Cal and he just went around upping the buy out for coaches to screw Kentucky?
Some 4D chess AD shit.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 08:20 AMIf he would have hired someone like Beard then sure he gets the credit. John Tyson's friendship with Cal and the fact that he is putting up a majority of the 5 million in NIL promised kind of points to Tyson being behind this does it not?
Part of an AD's job is booster relationship management. HY didn't do great when he went to them to get money to let Sam go (if that happened), but this time he gets them to pony up for the basketball hire.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 08, 2024, 08:28 AMTyson and big money guys are always "behind" any hiring. This is apparently happening on Yurachek's watch, so he should get the credit. Remember, if it turns out badly, you won't blame Tyson, you will blame Yurachek.
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UK will go all in for Donovan. Nobody else will be able to handle the pressure there IMO.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 08, 2024, 08:29 AMWhat if the John Tyson/HY plan was always Cal and he just went around upping the buy out for coaches to screw Kentucky?
Some 4D chess AD shit.
Great point. I wondered if HY leaking that we're talking to these other guys and getting them raises puts us in a better stead with them the next time we need a head coach.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 08, 2024, 08:28 AMTyson and big money guys are always "behind" any hiring. This is apparently happening on Yurachek's watch, so he should get the credit. Remember, if it turns out badly, you won't blame Tyson, you will blame Yurachek.
HY is the AD and has the hiring responsibility. He should get credit. Tyson stepped up and gave him the things he needed to make it happen. Even if Tyson initiated the conversations,
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 08, 2024, 08:28 AMTyson and big money guys are always "behind" any hiring. This is apparently happening on Yurachek's watch, so he should get the credit. Remember, if it turns out badly, you won't blame Tyson, you will blame Yurachek.
I'm not going to blame anyone if this doesn't work out because you had to make this hire if it was available. Hopefully he is reinvigorated and we don't get the Calipari from his last five seasons at Kentucky.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 08:34 AMI'm not going to blame anyone if this doesn't work out because you had to make this hire if it was available. Hopefully he is reinvigorated and we don't get the Calipari from his last five seasons at Kentucky.
That's right. You make this hire if it's available.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Apr 08, 2024, 08:26 AMAs we know all know, not even an official presser make this official official. We had a previous dance with Cal when he was at Memphis after Heath.
cal's not going back to kentucky after this. most of their fans aren't shedding any tears and the ky sure as fuck isn't giving him more money.
apparently it leaked to the media before he even told the ad.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 08, 2024, 08:29 AMTravis Ford and Mark Pope are getting early play, no idea why. They should hire Pel. lol
Have to think Barnhart (AD) has had a list - depends on the money they can raise - we've set the bar for NIL and that will rankle them which is good. It's a hard job and an insane fan base - hell some are calling for the return of slick rick.
I would imagine they take a swing at Scott Drew and make him say no.
We play at Rupp next year, that would be one road trip more than worth making.
we also go to Maui again in 2027, that is one trip that I would encourage everyone to make and with Cal as our coach that will be one of hell of time. Don't get the UA booster package get the all tournament one so you get tickets to all games and sit behind the goal.
On Friday, I bought tickets to the baseball series in Lexington. May 3-5 is going to be FUN regardless of how the baseball team performs. I can't wait.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:33 AMHY is the AD and has the hiring responsibility. He should get credit. Tyson stepped up and gave him the things he needed to make it happen. Even if Tyson initiated the conversations,
Sometimes the best move you can make is to get out of the way and let things happen.
Billy Donovan hasn't coached in college in a loooooong time. Going nack to college is fsrvless appealing mow with NIL and the transfer portal. I know I wouldn't do it.
That said, I will be amazed if KY doesn't hire one of these 3: Oats, Beard, Drew
their 247 guy says hurley will be the first call. doubtful, but he's only making $5 Million per.
Hopefully he's the kind of guy that wants to give a big fuck you to everyone (rightfully) on his case the last few years.
His last 3 league finishes were still 2nd, 3rd, and 2nd.
I've seen a few MA era players tweet their excitement about this (Harris, Macon, and Hannahs). I always got the impression they really disliked Cal and Kentucky when they played them.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 08:43 AMtheir 247 guy says hurley will be the first call. doubtful, but he's only making $5 Million per.
I think Hurley should be their first call. However, I will be surprised if he leaves UConn. It's such a good fit for him.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 08, 2024, 08:46 AMI think Hurley should be their first call. However, I will be surprised if he leaves UConn. It's such a good fit for him.
100% agree. He's a NE guy and seems to take a lot of pride in what he's built there.
I would think Hurley, Oats, then Beard. If they get turned down twice they'll take the PR hit Beard will give them.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 08:21 AMWho now does Kentucky go after?
There is only one answer. He played roundball. Hootie Dale Nutt. He will run the Veer.
I'm thinking Kentucky hires Oats.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 08:57 AMI'm thinking Kentucky hires Oats.
I hope that happens.
Oats would be dangerous at Kentucky, but they're always going to be good regardless of coach. Getting him away from Alabama would make it far more likely that they would return to their usual mediocrity.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 08, 2024, 09:00 AMI hope that happens.
Oats would be dangerous at Kentucky, but they're always going to be good regardless of coach. Getting him away from Alabama would make it far more likely that they would return to their usual mediocrity.
This is the way.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 08, 2024, 08:28 AMTyson and big money guys are always "behind" any hiring. This is apparently happening on Yurachek's watch, so he should get the credit. Remember, if it turns out badly, you won't blame Tyson, you will blame Yurachek.
Exactly. This is the same story at UA and every big program. Every AD depends on the boosters. Mantits is here because these same guys didn't give HY the bucks to pay his buyout and for a new coach. From an NIL perspective basketball is a whole lite cheaper to make a big impact.
Cal will bring almost all, if not his entire recruiting class with him. We're going to have the most stacked roster our program has ever seen, at least for this year.
We're set up for success.
I hope he delivers.
https://x.com/treybiddy/status/1777179032490049884?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
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Quote from: bigpig on Apr 08, 2024, 09:12 AMCal will bring almost all, if not his entire recruiting class with him. We're going to have the most stacked roster our program has ever seen, at least for this year.
We're set up for success.
I hope he delivers.
I'm not sure he brings all of them. If he has $5-6MM to spend he may not want to bring in 5 freshmen.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 08, 2024, 09:14 AMI'm not sure he brings all of them. If he has $5-6MM to spend he may not want to bring in 5 freshmen.
how many players do we currently have? two?
wouldn't shock me if none of the arkansas guys in the portal are asked to come back. there's going to be plenty of room.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 08, 2024, 09:12 AMCal will bring almost all, if not his entire recruiting class with him. We're going to have the most stacked roster our program has ever seen, at least for this year.
We're set up for success.
I hope he delivers.
How does it work with incoming freshmen that have already signed? They had three 5 stars in their 24 class that have signed.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:48 AM100% agree. He's a NE guy and seems to take a lot of pride in what he's built there.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 08, 2024, 08:50 AMI would think Hurley, Oats, then Beard. If they get turned down twice they'll take the PR hit Beard will give them.
Surely they won't hire a slimy woman abuser.
>:D
Quote from: CardHog on Apr 08, 2024, 09:26 AMHow does it work with incoming freshmen that have already signed? They had three 5 stars in their 24 class that have signed.
they will be released if they want. coaching change.
Might be unpopular but any current player that went into the portal should be told they are not welcome back. Fuck that noise.
And, again, I hope Muss gets ass aids.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 09:24 AMhow many players do we currently have? two?
wouldn't shock me if none of the arkansas guys in the portal are asked to come back. there's going to be plenty of room.
Surely he'll bring back Devo to provide some senior leadership.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 09:33 AMThat's a strange looking dude.
Kid must be blind without those glasses.
looks like a jersey mob boss's kid.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 09:36 AMlooks like a jersey mob boss's kid.
If it follows the movies and TV, those are the ones who usually really frick things up
speaking of kids, does Cal have any kids we will be obligated to hire? Edit: I just saw Biddy's post about Calipari's son. I guess that is a mere formality. And what about all those "analysts" Muss had on staff? Seemed like there were about 10 of them.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 09:13 AMhttps://x.com/treybiddy/status/1777179032490049884?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
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He looks like one of the replacement singers in NSYNC
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 08, 2024, 09:45 AMIf it follows the movies and TV, those are the ones who usually really frick things up
Don't worry, he knows what is earned is not given.
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I didn't realize that weird looking dude was his son.
I've hated cal since November 1994 when his UMass team drug its balls across corliss and scotty's faces.
Now I have to like him. Weird feeling.
I've always said he was a cheating scumbag that underachieved with the talent he had.
Please for the love of God prove me to be a dumbass.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 08, 2024, 10:08 AMI've hated cal since November 1994 when his UMass team drug its balls across corliss and scotty's faces.
Now I have to like him. Weird feeling.
I've always said he was a cheating scumbag that underachieved with the talent he had.
Please for the love of God prove me to be a dumbass.
My first thought was, 'he has been cheating for years, but now he will get caught. We'll get the death penalty".
Quote from: BASS on Apr 08, 2024, 10:08 AMI've hated cal since November 1994 when his UMass team drug its balls across corliss and scotty's faces.
Now I have to like him. Weird feeling.
I've always said he was a cheating scumbag that underachieved with the talent he had.
Please for the love of God prove me to be a dumbass.
I've been texting my friends this exact same thing all morning. I was 7 years old when we got our asses kicked by UMass in the first game of the season and it's the only time I can remember crying after a sporting event. I've hated Calipari since. I loved John Chaney just because he told Calipari he was going to kill him during a press conference. But fuck it he's our guy now. Woopig.
Alyssa Lang is on full ride (xm) and I know some of you love her but she doesn't know anything who h is amazing since she works at the sec network.
Total teleprompter reader
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 09:36 AMlooks like a jersey mob boss's kid.
He is Italian, so that part checks out.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 08, 2024, 10:16 AMAlyssa Lang is on full ride (xm) and I know some of you love her but she doesn't know anything who h is amazing since she works at the sec network.
Total teleprompter reader
Very definition of mid. Mid talent, mid looks, etc.
Nothing against her, although like Tony Delk she pissed me off on the radio on Friday when she started going off about how Arkansas fans had mistreated the Musselman family. She can fuck right off with that nonsense. Either give specific examples or it didn't happen, and you're denigrating one of the schools you're supposed to be covering and promoting.
I can't wait to hang out with Cal at Oaklawn. We're so fucking back.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 08, 2024, 10:10 AMMy first thought was, 'he has been cheating for years, but now he will get caught. We'll get the death penalty".
My wife just said the same thing. He will get caught here (not that he hasn't been caught elsewhere) and they will come down hard on us...because it is us. But, he is our problem now, so WoooPig!
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 08, 2024, 10:10 AMMy first thought was, 'he has been cheating for years, but now he will get caught. We'll get the death penalty".
There is virtually nothing he could do that would be considered cheating these days.
Intradesting. May have been posted already. Sorry. Screen door and all.
I hope our new money guy kicks the tires on Saban getting bored with retirement in a year or two.
Quote from: aaron on Apr 08, 2024, 10:28 AMIntradesting
Wow. Love it. I dislike Mussleman more than any coach we have had. And that includes Dale.
Quote from: aaron on Apr 08, 2024, 10:28 AMIntradesting
I hope he loses every game by 100 and Austin Reaves fucks his wife.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 09:29 AMMight be unpopular but any current player that went into the portal should be told they are not welcome back. Fuck that noise.
And, again, I hope Muss gets ass aids.
this. All of this. I don't want any of those little bitches back. Fuck them. Divo can fuck off and never play again for all I care. He was the root of our probs
I didn't like him at UMass because of it being Massachusetts. I changed my mind on him through the years and wanted and thought we might get him after Heath. I think it was early on at Memphis when he said that "regional" thing which I thought was smart of him considering he was recruiting against us. When we moved on from Coach Play Hard, he was very complimentary about the Arkansas job and has always shown nothing but respect towards us in his time at Kentucky.
He's a personable and will be popular here. He'll win too, which is the only thing that matters.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 08, 2024, 10:32 AMHe's a personable and will be popular here. He'll win too, which is the only thing that matters.
Hopefully our lapdogs in the press tweak him just enough so that he wants to prove something.
I would think slinging together a team from a blank slate somewhere else would be right up his alley.
"Ta-Da!...Twice!...and I retire!"
Will we still play the Godfather theme when he comes out?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Apr 08, 2024, 10:35 AMWill we still play the Godfather theme when he comes out?
Was that him? I thought Rick Pitino.
Maybe both.
I wish the Tysons would get interested in women's basketball and football.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 10:40 AMWas that him? I thought Rick Pitino.
Maybe both.
That was Rick.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 08, 2024, 10:43 AMI wish the Tysons would get interested in women's basketball and football.
nobody cares about women's basketball they just care about Caitlyn Clark. No one can name any wnba team and it will stay that way
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 08, 2024, 10:43 AMI wish the Tysons would get interested in women's basketball and football.
How much NIL would it take for football to be able get in top talent? 5-6mil a year in basketball is apparently one of the best in college basketball.
Quote from: egregious on Apr 08, 2024, 10:34 AMHopefully our lapdogs in the press tweak him just enough so that he wants to prove something.
With our dumb as dirt press? :maundoed:
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 10:45 AMnobody cares about women's basketball they just care about Caitlyn Clark. No one can name any wnba team and it will stay that way
If it's a razorback team, I care about it. I couldn't name a team in the WNBA.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 08, 2024, 10:21 AMI can't wait to hang out with Cal at Oaklawn. We're so fucking back.
You mean you didn't hang out with him at Churchill Downs last year? ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 08, 2024, 10:48 AMIf it's a razorback team, I care about it. I couldn't name a team in the WNBA.
I could've sworn last night I heard someone say the
Indiana Beavers will have no. 1 pick at the draft. I thought that sure is a step back from wokeness and political correctness, but alas I was mistaken. The Indiana FEVER have the first pick. Boooo. Beavers would have been the acme of coolness.
It will be nice to have a coach that does that little Diggstown thing where he adjusts his tie and all the sudden the refs are blowing whistles on the other team.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 08, 2024, 10:56 AMYou mean you didn't hang out with him at Churchill Downs last year? ::) ::) ::)
I didn't go to Churchill last year. I went to Keeneland.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 08, 2024, 10:56 AMYou mean you didn't hang out with him at Churchill Downs last year? ::) ::) ::)
chortle
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 08, 2024, 10:20 AMVery definition of mid. Mid talent, mid looks, etc.
Nothing against her, although like Tony Delk she pissed me off on the radio on Friday when she started going off about how Arkansas fans had mistreated the Musselman family. She can fuck right off with that nonsense. Either give specific examples or it didn't happen, and you're denigrating one of the schools you're supposed to be covering and promoting.
All based on that one Danyelle tweet where she said someone at school had asked Mariah about the rumors. The Musselmans intentionally put that out there to create a narrative where mean old Arkansas fans were trying to run them off and would stoop to talking shit about Eric to his daughter.
I doubt anyone even asked Mariah anything; they probably made it up and knew it would spread like wildfire on social media.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 08, 2024, 10:59 AMI didn't go to Churchill last year. I went to Keeneland.
that's where the poors go and they allow you to wear denim.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 11:00 AMthat's where the poors go and they allow you to wear denim.
you've got that exactly backwards. Keeneland is a high class track, much more so than CD.
kentucky center aaron bradshaw, 5* and #4 player in the 2023 class, has entered the portal.
Dickie V is in
https://x.com/dickiev/status/1777304555744567572?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 11:18 AMkentucky center aaron bradshaw, 5* and #4 player in the 2023 class, has entered the portal.
Yes please.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 11:18 AMkentucky center aaron bradshaw, 5* and #4 player in the 2023 class, has entered the portal.
Eventually those KY fans who wanted Cal gone are going to realize that those high level recruits weren't going there just to wear the blue jerseys.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 08, 2024, 11:22 AMDickie V is in
https://x.com/dickiev/status/1777304555744567572?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
I have no problem doing a 180 about Calipari, but I don't care what Dickie V says, Dickie V will always be a douchebag.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 11:18 AMkentucky center aaron bradshaw, 5* and #4 player in the 2023 class, has entered the portal.
I'd like to have that 7'2" European.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 10:59 AMIt will be nice to have a coach that does that little Diggstown thing where he adjusts his tie and all the sudden the refs are blowing whistles on the other team.
This is something I thought about when I heard about him coming here. I won't know what to do if we start getting calls, especially late in games.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 08, 2024, 10:21 AMI can't wait to hang out with Cal at Oaklawn. We're so fucking back.
Elbowing your way up to him to annoy him is not hanging out.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 10:45 AMnobody cares about women's basketball they just care about Caitlyn Clark. No one can name any wnba team and it will stay that way
I didn't watch any of it until the final two quarters and I guess I jinxed her.
Quote from: HughJasole on Apr 08, 2024, 10:59 AMAll based on that one Danyelle tweet where she said someone at school had asked Mariah about the rumors. The Musselmans intentionally put that out there to create a narrative where mean old Arkansas fans were trying to run them off and would stoop to talking shit about Eric to his daughter.
I doubt anyone even asked Mariah anything; they probably made it up and knew it would spread like wildfire on social media.
If true, Muss and family could never handle a pressure cooker like UK or UNC.
Some punk kid at school saying something about her dad when he's making $5 mil a year to coach and has a losing season? It's absolutely going to happen.
Nobody will care at SC, so they have that going for them.
biddy says tang was never offered, just a name thrown out. beard was close but hinted that maybe he wanted an out if the kentucky job opened. didn't know where the apr shit came from because the program is more than good on that.
aaron torres said that there were several prominent candidates that were never even contacted when muss left, and wondered why that didn't happen. thinks cal was a target all along.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 08, 2024, 11:54 AMbiddy says tang was never offered, just a name thrown out. beard was close but hinted that maybe he wanted an out if the kentucky job opened. didn't know where the apr shit came from because the program is more than good on that.
aaron torres said that there were several prominent candidates that were never even contacted when muss left, and wondered why that didn't happen. thinks cal was a target all along.
I believe Torres. It's out now that Cal was desperately looking to get out and our job opening was a blessing.
Once HY ran into problems with Muss I'm sure he was always assessing this. Names in the media were to keep pressure off of Calipari and family until a deal could be done.
Not saying a call wasn't made to Beard, but the rest is likely all AD leaking names to divert pressure. It was beautiful, UK and national media had zero idea until the leaks last night. Wess Moore appears to be the first to really know.
Is beard now gonna try and get the Kentucky job or is he locked back in to his contract now that they upped his salary
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 12:04 PMIs beard now gonna try and get the Kentucky job or is he locked back in to his contract now that they upped his salary
I doubt his new contract is inked and certainly don't think his buyout is prohibitive for UK.
He's also not in their top 3-4 as far as we can tell.
If they hire Donovan we don't get any more dominoes falling. Worst outcome.
Calipari is not a home run hire.
Calipari is a grand slam to win the World Series in the bottom of the 9th hire.
I still think about if John Tyson had put his foot down and gotten rid of Nutt and hired Butch Davis. The talent alone would have won us something. They just needed a coach.
Quote from: RazorB on Apr 08, 2024, 12:19 PMI still think about if John Tyson had put his foot down and gotten rid of Nutt and hired Butch Davis. The talent alone would have won us something. They just needed a coach.
I bet Tyson and Davis do as well
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 12:07 PMI doubt his new contract is inked and certainly don't think his buyout is prohibitive for UK.
He's also not in their top 3-4 as far as we can tell.
If they hire Donovan we don't get any more dominoes falling. Worst outcome.
100% agree. I want dominoes to fall and impact as many SEC schools as possible. Bama will not recover if they lose Oats. Same for Pearl and Auburn. Same for Beard and OM. It would be funny if UK took Beard after the tweets him and Carter put out.
I also think Donovan is more of a risk than many think.
Brazile declares for NBA draft, congratulates Ark on Calipari hire
Guessing he was told to go ahead and move on
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19)
An added bonus of hiring cal and giving him $40mm over 5 years.
It paints a picture for the national audience that we could have afforded to keep muss, but we didn't think he was worth it.
That's gotta chap his hide a little bit this morning.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 12:29 PMhttps://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19)
well Bye
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 11:58 AMIt's out now that Cal was desperately looking to get out and our job opening was a blessing.
Lots of parallels to the Petrino I hiring except we're not getting media flak for it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 12:29 PMhttps://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1777385293936537856?t=jwdXbS9D9j2CH28jzw1x0Q&s=19)
I wonder if he speaks Turkish or Tagalog.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 12:34 PMLots of parallels to the Petrino I hiring except we're not getting media flak for it.
Still respect the way Petrino handled it and that he really wanted to be here. Talked to Carl Johnson about before, the way that happened was crazy.
Same for Cal, he wants this job.
Leaving the NFL season early was the problem, but there was no other way out.
Brazile will be playing for the Shanghai Sharks next season.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 12:41 PMBrazile will be playing for the Shanghai Sharks next season.
Until he has knee management issues
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 12:41 PMBrazile will be playing for the Shanghai Sharks next season.
I don't think he's good enough for the nba. Also if you look at him long enough it looks like he's cross eyed due to how close his eyes are
I bet his knee is fine, he was just sloughing off. He'll make it to the NBA eventually. He's a badass when he wants to be.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 08, 2024, 12:54 PMI bet his knee is fine, he was just sloughing off. He'll make it to the NBA eventually. He's a badass when he wants to be.
Not sure that is the effort nor mentality NBA GM's are looking for.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 12:34 PMwell Bye
Yeah, enjoy Europe and whatever they call the D league now. Better work on upper body strength.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 08, 2024, 10:21 AMI can't wait to hang out with Cal at Oaklawn. We're so fucking back.
I've never in my life seen a grown ass man try so fucking hard.
https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777401807188222181?t=unkxy7eiDmwBw-N4P3lGwA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777401807188222181?t=unkxy7eiDmwBw-N4P3lGwA&s=19)
I suppose Brazile's decision has something to do with fear of competing with front court five stars that Cal might bring. Riding the pine for most of a season will not boost the stock. Might as well strike while the iron is lukewarm.
https://twitter.com/TristanUda/status/1777398576894587387?t=HzmVEZMh0dH-O2NaNjDnoA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TristanUda/status/1777398576894587387?t=HzmVEZMh0dH-O2NaNjDnoA&s=19)
This is fine
He's got a clean slate to add some pieces together. I don't think Cal will be bashful about telling the portal Hogs to keep on truckin elsewhere. Maybe he can get Blocker back if that's someone he's recruited before.
With the transfer rules being what they are it's going to be interesting if Cal brings a lot of his team with him to include staff, high school signees, and a few portal guys. You almost have to anticipate that's going to happen. In the olden days that would have been sure enough tampering but now it's expected.
Muss is bringing the UMASS transfer with him but I haven't seen where Battle, Mark or anyone else has been invited to the party.
Quote from: HughJasole on Apr 08, 2024, 10:59 AMAll based on that one Danyelle tweet where she said someone at school had asked Mariah about the rumors. The Musselmans intentionally put that out there to create a narrative where mean old Arkansas fans were trying to run them off and would stoop to talking shit about Eric to his daughter.
I doubt anyone even asked Mariah anything; they probably made it up and knew it would spread like wildfire on social media.
No adult asked her about it. Kids maybe. They have no filter.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 08, 2024, 03:41 PMNo adult asked her about it. Kids maybe. They have no filter.
I just don't see a junior high kid talking shit to her about Eric. He was almost universally adored here until this season.
It wasn't like a Nutt situation (I went to school with all of HDN's kids) where people were routinely talking shit to them about their dad, and for good reason.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 03:28 PMHe's got a clean slate to add some pieces together. I don't think Cal will be bashful about telling the portal Hogs to keep on truckin elsewhere. Maybe he can get Blocker back if that's someone he's recruited before.
With the transfer rules being what they are it's going to be interesting if Cal brings a lot of his team with him to include staff, high school signees, and a few portal guys. You almost have to anticipate that's going to happen. In the olden days that would have been sure enough tampering but now it's expected.
Muss is bringing the UMASS transfer with him but I haven't seen where Battle, Mark or anyone else has been invited to the party.
Some of the talking heads were saying part of the problem that's lead to Cal wanting to leave (and perhaps some of the lackluster tournament play as well) is that the money for assistants hasn't been there in recent years and has resulted in a direct decline in development and on the court performance.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 08, 2024, 04:02 PMSome of the talking heads were saying part of the problem that's lead to Cal wanting to leave (and perhaps some of the lackluster tournament play as well) is that the money for assistants hasn't been there in recent years and has resulted in a direct decline in development and on the court performance.
If that's true then Cal needs to ease off a couple mil and take care of his assistants.
https://x.com/redditcfb/status/1777181421410386058?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 08, 2024, 03:41 PMNo adult asked her about it. Kids maybe. They have no filter.
My oldest granddaughter went to the same school and was in the same class as the Musselman girl. She said Mariah is "not very nice."
Matt Jones, UK media guy, saying Cal may be trying to find a way to stay
Surely we can't screw this up this badly
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 06:11 PMMatt Jones, UK media guy, saying Cal may be trying to find a way to stay
Surely we can't screw this up this badly
Of course we can. Who do you think we are?
Quote from: Son of Spam on Apr 08, 2024, 06:12 PMOf course we can. Who do you think we are?
You'd just have to laugh. We maybe would never recover, which would be sad, but all we'd be able to do is laugh.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1777471399730532546
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 08, 2024, 05:15 PMhttps://x.com/redditcfb/status/1777181421410386058?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
:maundoed:
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 08, 2024, 06:24 PM:maundoed:
That guy sure was crawlfishing after that. I always try to think of it like this just we won't doesn't mean we can't.
Apparently they sent a plane for Bobby Bones Who landed in Fayetteville this afternoon saying that "Cal needs him And he will see him tomorrow"
I would highly doubt they send the university of Arkansas plane to pick him up today if it wasn't a done deal.
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 08, 2024, 06:41 PMApparently they sent a plane for Bobby Bones Who landed in Fayetteville this afternoon saying that "Cal needs him And he will see him tomorrow"
I would highly doubt they send the university of Arkansas plane to pick him up today if it wasn't a done deal.
I think the alumni association just announced they gave him some type of honor, fellowship position. Plane was probably for that.
looks like that matt jones tweet was a fake.
here's the real one.
https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1777477815446708350?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777477815446708350%7Ctwgr%5E6b2c19628c07a11796daf811af9bd66da0192afa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Farkansas%2Fboard%2F59414%2FContents%2Fshould-i-be-concerned-230131080%2F%3Fpage%3D10
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 08, 2024, 06:41 PMApparently they sent a plane for Bobby Bones Who landed in Fayetteville this afternoon saying that "Cal needs him And he will see him tomorrow"
I would highly doubt they send the university of Arkansas plane to pick him up today if it wasn't a done deal.
Cal needs Bobby Bones? Why?
Which one of them will we see tomorrow?
Are they going to push all the local media out of the way, ban Lakers jersey's and usher in the national boys for this presser? I imagine so.
https://www.on3.com/news/jay-williams-goes-off-on-john-calipari-move-who-leaves-kentucky-basketball-for-arkansas/
Also always this need by media to push some narrative mainly out of thin air and push so hard they believe in their own bullshit.
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 08, 2024, 06:41 PMApparently they sent a plane for Bobby Bones Who landed in Fayetteville this afternoon saying that "Cal needs him And he will see him tomorrow"
I would highly doubt they send the university of Arkansas plane to pick him up today if it wasn't a done deal.
It yang that hard to find
https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones/status/1777409169278054521?t=Y3SYWKnK68d_3o2JZMxdHQ&s=19
He is going to hold the bottom of the rope ladder
Quote from: BASS on Apr 08, 2024, 12:29 PMAn added bonus of hiring cal and giving him $40mm over 5 years.
It paints a picture for the national audience that we could have afforded to keep muss, but we didn't think he was worth it.
That's gotta chap his hide a little bit this morning.
I like this take.
It's even broader than that from a deep pocket standpoint, but at the micro level this hits right.
Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 07:20 PMAre they going to push all the local media out of the way, ban Lakers jersey's and usher in the national boys for this presser? I imagine so.
https://www.on3.com/news/jay-williams-goes-off-on-john-calipari-move-who-leaves-kentucky-basketball-for-arkansas/
Also always this need by media to push some narrative mainly out of thin air and push so hard they believe in their own bullshit.
"Hey John. Member that time in Bud Walton when Qualls made that dunk at the buzzer to beat you guys. What did you think of that?"
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 07:11 PMCal needs Bobby Bones? Why?
Which one of them will we see tomorrow?
Y'all seem to underestimate just how big he is. I imagine he's as big a booster as we've got and has huge future earnings potential. I just lurked back when he posted on here, but he was cool. He must have been really young, but held his own against HiM and Truth. Be glad he's a hog fan.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 08, 2024, 07:11 PMCal needs Bobby Bones? Why?
Which one of them will we see tomorrow?
i call bullshit wtf Bobby bones has anything to do with this he's not even a sports guy
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Apr 08, 2024, 07:52 PM"Hey John. Member that time in Bud Walton when Qualls made that dunk at the buzzer to beat you guys. What did you think of that?"
Lord, please ban him. Probably what drove Altman off. Maybe Tyson should pony up a reporter fund too.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 07:59 PMi call bullshit wtf Bobby bones has anything to do with this he's not even a sports guy
The rumor was that he would be MCing the announcement.
Oh, and Pete Thamel just posted this, which is nice:
@PeteThamel
Sources tell ESPN that the deal between John Calipari and Arkansas is in the final stages before completion. The formal announcement is expected on Tuesday, as we reported earlier tonight on
@CollegeGameDay
.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 07:59 PMi call bullshit wtf Bobby bones has anything to do with this he's not even a sports guy
He donates and attends a lot of Hog sporting events.
Quote from: Borenutz on Apr 08, 2024, 08:01 PMLord, please ban him. Probably what drove Altman off. Maybe Tyson should pony up a reporter fund too.
Just provide Bob with unlimited chicken nuggets
Quote from: Green_lanternn on Apr 08, 2024, 08:03 PMThe rumor was that he would be MCing the announcement.
Nice timing by Hunter on this, taking massive advantage of the publicity. Even though Tyson stepped up, gotta give credit where credit is due.
Bobby Bones is a nice touch too.
Hopefully this all trickles down to football and let's the national media and public know we're serious about sports.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:11 PMJust provide Bob with unlimited chicken nuggets
Dino nuggets.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 07:59 PMi call bullshit wtf Bobby bones has anything to do with this he's not even a sports guy
Just stop. He is one of the biggest national cheerleaders we have. He mentions the Razorbacks in some form or fashion on his national radio show daily. Him and Eddie do a pretty cool show called Too Much Access. It is VERY MUCH a sports show. I know you like to be tough and sound cool, but you're just wrong here. Let it go this one time.
https://news.uark.edu/articles/70039/bobby-bones-selected-as-the-2024-johnson-fellow
UA announcement regarding Bobby Bones. He was just making a joke about Cal.
"Bobby Estell, professionally known as Bobby Bones, will visit the university campus April 8-10 as the 2024 Arkansas Alumni Association Johnson Fellow."
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 07:59 PMi call bullshit wtf Bobby bones has anything to do with this he's not even a sports guy
He's our Ashley Judd so shut it.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 08, 2024, 07:59 PMY'all seem to underestimate just how big he is. I imagine he's as big a booster as we've got and has huge future earnings potential. I just lurked back when he posted on here, but he was cool. He must have been really young, but held his own against HiM and Truth. Be glad he's a hog fan.
I messaged him a few times a few years back, after he had made the big time. The wife and I had gone for a drive during early COVID and stopped in His hometown and had taken a pic by the sign that says "home of Bobby Bones" and sent it to him.. he got a kick out of it and messaged me several times about random shit. I don't think he knew I was actually retarded.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 08, 2024, 08:17 PMJust stop. He is one of the biggest national cheerleaders we have. He mentions the Razorbacks in some form or fashion on his national radio show daily. Him and Eddie do a pretty cool show called Too Much Access. It is VERY MUCH a sports show. I know you like to be tough and sound cool, but you're just wrong here. Let it go this one time.
you stop or I'm gonna put Rick b on you
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 08:48 PMyou stop or I'm gonna put Rick b on you
I might start painting my fingernails if you do that.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 08, 2024, 08:51 PMI might start painting my fingernails if you do that.
you should just go full trans if you're going there...though I'm struggling with coprophagia,
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 09:58 PMyou should just go full trans if you're going there...though I'm struggling with coprophagia,
Huh?
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 08, 2024, 09:59 PMHuh?
That's that place Barry Manilow sang about...I think.
WTF is "Full Trans" anyway. How do you "kinda cut your dick off?" Don't answer that. Just call it an old-fashioned sex change like in the old days. No one cares.
Speaking of feeling a little dirty..Welcome, Coach K.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 08, 2024, 08:48 PMyou stop or I'm gonna put Rick b on you
He's right, you know-- don't you?
Ring the Bell
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I have a feeling this is going to be weird on a level of Altman when the announcement comes.
Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 06:12 AMI have a feeling this is going to be weird on a level of Altman when the announcement comes.
KNWA has a video up interviewing the Herman's owner. He and Cal are buds. They showed the video of when the Arkansas fans called the hogs at Calipari the last time he ate there.
I'd get that guy at the announcement. Let Cal make a joke about it, and let the Herman's guy and the others there show him how to do it.
It'd take the awkwardness out of it.
Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Apr 09, 2024, 05:46 AMRing the Bell
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I saw this the other day and I don't understand what the joke is. Can someone explain?
Is his fucking deal happening or not? When will it be announced?
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 09, 2024, 07:21 AMIs his fucking deal happening or not? When will it be announced?
Today, presser tomorrow.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 09, 2024, 07:21 AMIs his fucking deal happening or not? When will it be announced?
I'm with you on this, I'm still not getting too excited until I hear something at least officially sounding. fm, the U of A, Cal or even KY's AD needs to at least say something. I guess not denying it says something 🤷
Until I hear a contract is signed and that Cal has not ripped it up after an evening at the catfish Hole I'm not counting this as done.
I have visions of bmfp having to call the Hogs after sneaking out of Atlanta like it's 1954 East Berlin. He just looked like wtf are these goobers?
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 09, 2024, 07:21 AMIs his fucking deal happening or not? When will it be announced?
The situation is fluid.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 09, 2024, 08:36 AMUntil I hear a contract is signed and that Cal has not ripped it up after an evening at the catfish Hole I'm not counting this as done.
I have visions of bmfp having to call the Hogs after sneaking out of Atlanta like it's 1954 East Berlin. He just looked like wtf are these goobers?
We gotta stop making people call the hogs. Even at games, a naturally occurring Hog call is badass, when the PA guy has to ask the fans to "stand up and call those Hogs" it sucks.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 08:40 AMWe gotta stop making people call the hogs. Even at games, a naturally occurring Hog call is badass, when the PA guy has to ask the fans to "stand up and call those Hogs" it sucks.
Agreed. I love the shit out of a good hog call, but we tend to wear it out by forcing it.
At least we don't play boomer sooner after every 3 yard gain. Of course, the band would have been dead ass silent with last year's team.
Quote from: Texzilla on Apr 09, 2024, 08:36 AMUntil I hear a contract is signed and that Cal has not ripped it up after an evening at the catfish Hole I'm not counting this as done.
I have visions of bmfp having to call the Hogs after sneaking out of Atlanta like it's 1954 East Berlin. He just looked like wtf are these goobers?
No shit. I'm gonna have doubts till the first jump ball in BWA.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 09, 2024, 08:55 AMNo shit. I'm gonna have doubts till the first jump ball in BWA.
We hire Cal, with no buyout for him to leave on his own just like he had at UK.
Donovan goes to Kentucky after the NBA season.
Bulls hire Calipari.
Hogs hire Gus Argenal.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 09:04 AMWe hire Cal, with no buyout for him to leave on his own just like he had at UK.
Donovan goes to Kentucky after the NBA season.
Bulls hire Calipari.
Hogs hire Gus Argenal.
Nah, Cal has already failed in the NBA once.
having a coach do it at introductory pressers is cringe. have the ad and the crowd do it as new guy takes the podium.
a simple "go hogs" from the coach is enough i think.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 09, 2024, 09:08 AMNah, Cal has already failed in the NBA once.
That doesn't mean someone won't give him another shot.
Cal turned down a monster deal from the Cavs when Lebron returned.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 09:15 AMThat doesn't mean someone won't give him another shot.
He's 65 and coming off his worst 5 year stretch as a head coach. No NBA team is giving him a shot. When was the last time an NBA team even hired a college coach? I think it's Billy Donovan and that was ten years ago.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 09:11 AMhaving a coach do it at introductory pressers is cringe. have the ad and the crowd do it as new guy takes the podium.
a simple "go hogs" from the coach is enough i think.
This is exactly how it needs to be done. The coach can participate if he likes or can choose to sit back and enjoy the appreciation.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 09:15 AMThat doesn't mean someone won't give him another shot.
At 65, I doubt it.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 09:19 AMHe's 65 and coming off his worst 5 year stretch as a head coach. No NBA team is giving him a shot. When was the last time an NBA team even hired a college coach? I think it's Billy Donovan and that was ten years ago.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 09, 2024, 09:23 AMAt 65, I doubt it.
You guys seriously underestimate how much the universe likes to fuck Arkansas over.
Musselman says the Cal hire just shows what a good job Arkansas basketball is. On the other hand, the intro to his USC press conference shows he and Hunter didn't see eye to eye. Harmonizing, you'll get all that money for Cal, but you didn't for me?
Also from the press conference: he looked like a shrunken kid who got a new suit that is way too big. Did he ever wear a suit here, even at the beginning? It was a shock to see him in one.
And, he dropped a Fight On instead of Woo Pig at the end of the press conference a little too easily.
Watching Cal assemble a roster in the next few weeks will be entertaining.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 09, 2024, 09:43 AMMusselman says the Cal hire just shows what a good job Arkansas basketball is. On the other hand, the intro to his USC press conference shows he and Hunter didn't see eye to eye. Harmonizing, you'll get all that money for Cal, but you didn't for me?
Also from the press conference: he looked like a shrunken kid who got a new suit that is way too big. Did he ever wear a suit here, even at the beginning? It was a shock to see him in one.
And, he dropped a Fight On instead of Woo Pig at the end of the press conference a little too easily.
He famously hates wearing suits and said he would never do it unless he was forced to.
I guess USC forced him to, lol.
I don't have enough energy to hate on him. My biggest concern was that we would not be able to get a good roster together for next year. That is no longer a concern. So, I'll be happy to thank him for the Elite 8's and Sweet 16's.
Until I see Cal here, I have visions of this..
https://youtu.be/9dsm7K1Xkn4
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 09, 2024, 09:57 AMI don't have enough energy to hate on him.
Same here, but I will do a Nelson every time I see USC lose.
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https://x.com/kysportsradio/status/1777706002458050997?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Goddamn get on with it already.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 10:12 AMhttps://x.com/kysportsradio/status/1777706002458050997?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Goddamn get on with it already.
Someone said there is a fake Matt Jones account spreading lies. Might be this one.
Fake or not, Matt Jones is a mouthpiece for UK athletic department. They may have wanted Cal gone, but they don't like the appearance of having him poached by Arkiesaw. So, they run that little rumor yesterday that he was thinking about backing out and say that he doesn't have the option now. So, the narrative will be at some point in the future that he tried to come back but got fired by the great Kentucky.
All this shit from Jones is just UK trying to save face and stir shit up for Cal and a conference rival. That's it.
Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 10:19 AMSomeone said there is a fake Matt Jones account spreading lies. Might be this one.
Nah that's the real one. 300k followers.
If I was Cal, i would wait too. Get the Arkansas contract signed and everything you want out of it before notifying UK. That way if Arkansas somehow falls through, he can make UK fire him and litigate over his $35 million.
It's a real account
https://x.com/KSRonX/status/1777709938619404783
They should have petrino introduce him and work in a "slapdicks" comment.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 09, 2024, 10:24 AMFake or not, Matt Jones is a mouthpiece for UK athletic department. They may have wanted Cal gone, but they don't like the appearance of having him poached by Arkiesaw. So, they run that little rumor yesterday that he was thinking about backing out and say that he doesn't have the option now. So, the narrative will be at some point in the future that he tried to come back but got fired by the great Kentucky.
All this shit from Jones is just UK trying to save face and stir shit up for Cal and a conference rival. That's it.
Wouldn't they owe him $33 million if they went that route?
Sean Miller would be awful.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 09, 2024, 10:48 AMWouldn't they owe him $33 million if they went that route?
Sigh...they're not going that route. That's the point. Cal is gone and they know it, thus, they won't be gong that route. But they can still throw that narrative out there with a willing mouthpiece like Jones and their fans and some of the national media will believe it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 09, 2024, 10:49 AMSean Miller would be awful.
Really? I don't think he'd be a good fit there but I think he's a quality head coach.
Didn't think he would be a terrible option for us.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 AMSigh...they're not going that route. That's the point. Cal is gone and they know it, thus, they won't be gong that route. But they can still throw that narrative out there with a willing mouthpiece like Jones and their fans and some of the national media will believe it.
Plus they're all running with the "Cal still hasn't notified Kentucky" line. If they have to they'll use this to try to fire him for cause and skip out on the buyout.
It's all posturing. Deal is getting done.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 11:03 AMPlus they're all running with the "Cal still hasn't notified Kentucky" line. If they have to they'll use this to try to fire him for cause and skip out on the buyout.
It's all posturing. Deal is getting done.
Exactly. And as I said, Call hasn't officially notified them yet and probably won't until he has everything he wants in at least a memorandum of understanding at Arkansas so that if somehow it falls through, then he can force them to fire him and litigate the buyout.
I suspect he'll actually notify them after the Arkansas BOT officially approves his contract which is supposed to happen this afternoon.
he doesn't have an agent for contracts negotiations so there's no middle man to run these things back and forth. who knows, tyson might be the go between right now.
if he were to talk directly to anyone at the university then he would be in violation of his contract. maybe he doesn't want to leave kentucky after all this time by getting fired.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 11:42 AMhe doesn't have an agent for contracts negotiations so there's no middle man to run these things back and forth. who knows, tyson might be the go between right now.
if he were to talk directly to anyone at the university then he would be in violation of his contract. maybe he doesn't want to leave kentucky after all this time by getting fired.
The Forde douche from SI and the University of 0-19 said yesterday that Calipari is represented by Tom Mars.
Which means they're probably negotiating something into the deal where Cal has to disparage the governor at least once per week.
Someone found Hunter's burner Twitter that predicted Muss to USC and Cal to Arkansas well in advance lol.
isn't mars a defense attorney? i think he might have represented him in some of the accusations, but cal has been famous for negotiating his own contracts.
i could, and probably, be wrong.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 11:51 AMisn't mars a defense attorney? i think he might have represented him in some of the accusations, but cal has been famous for negotiating his own contracts.
i could, and probably, be wrong.
Just going by what Pat Forde tweeted. Not endorsing the information.
If we're being honest that Tyson & Jones NIL money is what is going to bring him to Arkansas not the 8 million guaranteed salary over a presumed 5 year deal. He could get that at a lot of schools even right fuckin now. This NIL business might mean some legal gymnastics in how it's worded in a contract for a state institution. You might want to make sure that money isn't a fairy tale and can be used on day 1. I'm curious how all that works when the schools and coaches weren't supposed to be in control of all that shit initially.
There may also be some buyout talk going on as that was alleged to be a hang up with Beard. If Cal didn't have a buyout to leave Kentucky he damn sure isn't going to have one for Arkansas. Muss evidently didn't have much if any of a buyout and he used that to play hanky panky. A large buyout parks a coach at your school for a good many years. That's why Oats isn't going anywhere at Alabama.
biddy and matt jones say expect an announcement this afternoon.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 11:03 AMPlus they're all running with the "Cal still hasn't notified Kentucky" line. If they have to they'll use this to try to fire him for cause and skip out on the buyout.
It's all posturing. Deal is getting done.
This tells me they are second guessing themselves. Grass isn't always greener
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 11:51 AMisn't mars a defense attorney? i think he might have represented him in some of the accusations, but cal has been famous for negotiating his own contracts.
i could, and probably, be wrong.
I doubt Mars ever called himself a defense attorney. He definitely goes both ways between plaintiffs and defendants. He just developed his own little niche in dealing with NCAA and conference rules problems. He tweets like a pure liberal. He may very well have represented Cal in the past.
Just had lunch with a guy who has plenty of Kentucky connections. He says they are universally glad to get rid of Cal.
https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1777748424751739241?t=MKGzACHMoTQwET_jqGmwRg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1777748424751739241?t=MKGzACHMoTQwET_jqGmwRg&s=19)
This is the account people are saying is HY's burner account. All I know this has been one of the wildest searches. It now feels like Muss left 3 months ago.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 09, 2024, 12:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1777748424751739241?t=MKGzACHMoTQwET_jqGmwRg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1777748424751739241?t=MKGzACHMoTQwET_jqGmwRg&s=19)
This is the account people are saying is HY's burner account. All I know this has been one of the wildest searches. It now feels like Muss left 3 months ago.
He basically did leave three months ago.
The Tyson plane that went to Lexington a few days ago appears to be on the way again.
What if it turns out that Muss went to HY as the season started and told him that he intended on resigning and moving back to Cali to be closer to his mom and because Danielle wanted to get back into TV. What if HY started the coaching search at that time and zero'd in on Cal and locked him up a month or two ago.
Would any of that change your opinion about Muss?
https://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777759683043795429
then there is this:
https://x.com/KSRonX/status/1777746988810805331
https://x.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777761913964843518
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 09, 2024, 01:11 PMhttps://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777759683043795429
https://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777761913964843518
First one got deleted then reposted.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 01:10 PMWhat if it turns out that Muss went to HY as the season started and told him that he intended on resigning and moving back to Cali to be closer to his mom and because Danielle wanted to get back into TV. What if HY started the coaching search at that time and zero'd in on Cal and locked him up a month or two ago.
Would any of that change your opinion about Muss?
How could Muss have known there would be a job opening in Cali for him that time?
lol, wut? if the reported figures are legit, he took a pay cut coming to arkansas. what was the counter, "pay me less"?
and wouldn't that mean he contacted uk about leaving and so the tweets about him not doing so were bullshit? for a guy kentucky was wanting to leave, they sure seem a whole lot of butthurt about it.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 09, 2024, 01:13 PMthen there is this:
https://x.com/KSRonX/status/1777746988810805331
Whyte boar or whoever said it was correct. Threw this out there for optics. Can't have little Arkiesaw poach our coach. We let you go, you didn't leave us.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 09, 2024, 01:13 PMthen there is this:
https://x.com/KSRonX/status/1777746988810805331
Yeah that doesn't make any sense.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 09, 2024, 01:13 PMthen there is this:
https://x.com/KSRonX/status/1777746988810805331
sure jan
cal says goodbye
https://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777761913964843518
https://twitter.com/UKMitchBarnhart/status/1777760800691692020
Sure sounds like UK notified, plane on the way to get Cal for announcement tonight. Ink must be dry.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 01:21 PMlol, wut? if the reported figures are legit, he took a pay cut coming to arkansas. what was the counter, "pay me less"?
and wouldn't that mean he contacted uk about leaving and so the tweets about him not doing so were bullshit? for a guy kentucky was wanting to leave, they sure seem a whole lot of butthurt about it.
It's all horseshit for Kentucky to try to save face.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 01:19 PMHow could Muss have known there would be a job opening in Cali for him that time?
I'm not saying that he new there would be a job opening. Only that he knew he would be moving on to somewhere closer to home. Hell, he may have communicated that fact to HY at some point over the last 2 years. Something like, "Hey, I need to get closer to mom. If a job comes open that will enable me to do that then just know I'll be leaving." In that time HY put the pieces together to have the successor line up should it actually happen.
Clearly SportFan, whoever that is, knew on March 23rd that Muss was gone. It seems like that is HY but regardless something like that would have been in the works prior to March 23rd.
I'm just asking if it changes opinions about Muss?
As transparent as the day is long. But, yeah, some national guys will buy it and run with it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 01:35 PMI'm not saying that he new there would be a job opening. Only that he knew he would be moving on to somewhere closer to home. Hell, he may have communicated that fact to HY at some point over the last 2 years. Something like, "Hey, I need to get closer to mom. If a job comes open that will enable me to do that then just know I'll be leaving." In that time HY put the pieces together to have the successor line up should it actually happen.
Clearly SportFan, whoever that is, knew on March 23rd that Muss was gone. It seems like that is HY but regardless something like that would have been in the works prior to March 23rd.
I'm just asking if it changes opinions about Muss?
We don't know what Muss did, though. If he tried to bluff HY into a raise and extension and it got to the point that Hunter was getting frustrated and Tyson let him know Cal wanted out bad, Muss doesn't deserve any credit.
Muss had no idea that SMU would hire USC's coach much before it happened.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 01:35 PMI'm not saying that he new there would be a job opening. Only that he knew he would be moving on to somewhere closer to home. Hell, he may have communicated that fact to HY at some point over the last 2 years. Something like, "Hey, I need to get closer to mom. If a job comes open that will enable me to do that then just know I'll be leaving." In that time HY put the pieces together to have the successor line up should it actually happen.
Clearly SportFan, whoever that is, knew on March 23rd that Muss was gone. It seems like that is HY but regardless something like that would have been in the works prior to March 23rd.
I'm just asking if it changes opinions about Muss?
The better question is what does Yurachek get out of tweeting rumors on his Twitter burner? That's a little weird.
SportFan can't be HY. No way HY would write this:
"I have changed my mind. I'm in on tang if he is the guy. Mostly because this stupid fan base is against it and so it seems like the right move"
https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1776326605029113990
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 01:41 PMThe better question is what does Yurachek get out of tweeting rumors on his Twitter burner? That's a little weird.
I don't think that is HY. Which then leads to, who the hell has that kind of inside info?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 01:41 PMThe better question is what does Yurachek get out of tweeting rumors on his Twitter burner? That's a little weird.
More likely an intern who handles Hunter's account.
Or did, until he just got exposed as tweeting out inside info under his personal account.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 01:10 PMWhat if it turns out that Muss went to HY as the season started and told him that he intended on resigning and moving back to Cali to be closer to his mom and because Danielle wanted to get back into TV. What if HY started the coaching search at that time and zero'd in on Cal and locked him up a month or two ago.
Would any of that change your opinion about Muss?
If true it would make the HY bus tweet make even less sense.
He really may be the unemployed supply chain guy he claims to be, just has a friend in the exact right place.
Banging Hunter's secretary or something.
some of the arkansas media saying nothing officially announced today. going to be a big deal tomorrow at bwa around 6:00.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 01:10 PMWhat if it turns out that Muss went to HY as the season started and told him that he intended on resigning and moving back to Cali to be closer to his mom and because Danielle wanted to get back into TV. What if HY started the coaching search at that time and zero'd in on Cal and locked him up a month or two ago.
Would any of that change your opinion about Muss?
Muss coached and the players played like they all knew he was leaving early on.
Imma hold off on buying Tyson chicken until I see this thing is in the bag.
Quote from: TC on Apr 09, 2024, 01:48 PMIf true it would make the HY bus tweet make even less sense.
Unless he knew Muss was leaving and he was poking fun at the situation. Kind of an inside joke thing. We tend to think that these types of situations are full of animosity and hatred. What if they were sitting in HY's office and Muss said, "Hey, you know what would be funny. You remember that commercial we filmed..." They were trolling the Twitter space.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 02:39 PMUnless he knew Muss was leaving and he was poking fun at the situation. Kind of an inside joke thing. We tend to think that these types of situations are full of animosity and hatred. What if they were sitting in HY's office and Muss said, "Hey, you know what would be funny. You remember that commercial we filmed..." They were trolling the Twitter space.
Except Muss has made reference to leadership differences and alluded to problems he had with Yurachek since he has been at USC.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 09, 2024, 02:09 PMHe really may be the unemployed supply chain guy he claims to be, just has a friend in the exact right place.
Banging Hunter's secretary or something.
Except whoever it was forgot to log off and posted something baseball related in Hunter's "voice" under that account.
https://twitter.com/jacksoncollier/status/1777765761156542578?s=46&t=dvqR2q_lmkbWVHxkAseI4A
https://x.com/BluegrassRabbi/status/1777717499066270050
read the whole thread
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 09, 2024, 03:16 PMhttps://x.com/BluegrassRabbi/status/1777717499066270050
read the whole thread
Pretty cool...he keeps this up I might even begin to like the guy.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 01:23 PMcal says goodbye
https://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/1777761913964843518
He comes off as a legitimately good dude.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 03:11 PMhttps://twitter.com/jacksoncollier/status/1777765761156542578?s=46&t=dvqR2q_lmkbWVHxkAseI4A
So it's not just me eyeballs that tell me an NBA iso offense without NBA caliber shooters doesn't work. Got it.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 09, 2024, 02:19 PMMuss coached and the players played like they all knew he was leaving early on.
There was a player that commented on another player's IG that announced he was going into the portal and said "you heard too?". Thinking it was Menifield commenting on Blocker.
https://twitter.com/TreySchaap/status/1777794352112087445
who would have thunk it a week ago.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 09, 2024, 03:39 PMhttps://twitter.com/TreySchaap/status/1777794352112087445
Also repairing the floor or putting down mattsfor the press conference. No SlobberHog work yet. IMG_1882.jpeg
They'll blow the lid off the place if Slobber Hog comes back.
Looks like Coach Cal was still negotiating with Kentucky after agreeing on the Arkansas deal.
Just good business, right?
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 03:51 PMwho would have thunk it a week ago.
No shit. When we lost out on Beard my hopes diminished.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 09, 2024, 04:06 PMLooks like Coach Cal was still negotiating with Kentucky after agreeing on the Arkansas deal.
Just good business, right?
Or bullshit from Kentucky to save face
I'm not buying that he was negotiating with KY.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 09, 2024, 04:06 PMLooks like Coach Cal was still negotiating with Kentucky after agreeing on the Arkansas deal.
Just good business, right?
It's been talked about already but when you are willing to take a 2 million dollar per yr pay cut and yield like 33 million dollars in salary to take a downgrade job it stands to reason your bargaining position is not on firm footing. Unless he was willing to reorganize his contract in order to get some things he wanted out of the deal such as more NIL and an extension. In any case I don't know that I would see it as slimy...he wouldn't be doing anything anybody wouldn't do to a long time employer unless there was a great deal of friction.
Essentially we quietly fired Muss, Kentucky off-loaded Cal onto us...everyone gets to save face. Kentucky is gambling they won't hire their next Billy G.
https://twitter.com/TomMarsLaw/status/1777774657963208955?t=2ywRlQjHOpl9AHMKninA3A&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TomMarsLaw/status/1777774657963208955?t=2ywRlQjHOpl9AHMKninA3A&s=19)
Forgot the link.
https://x.com/tristanuda/status/1777758692047294631?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Talk about being a bit vindictive. After this smear campaign coming from mouthpieces from UK's way I'd be on a plane right now with a hog hat on.
Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 04:32 PMTalk about being a bit vindictive. After this smear campaign coming from mouthpieces from UK's way I'd be on a plane right now with a hog hat on.
We gave them what they wanted, just not how they wanted it.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 09, 2024, 04:52 PMWe gave them what they wanted, just not how they wanted it.
this. cal never asked them to renegotiate. they're just massively butthurt that he left without being fired (even tho firing him would have done nothing).
not to mention it looks like they may be getting turned down by their first couple of targets.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 09, 2024, 04:55 PMthis. cal never asked them to renegotiate. they're just massively butthurt that he left without being fired (even tho firing him would have done nothing).
not to mention it looks like they may be getting turned down by their first couple of targets.
I thought if he were fired Kentucky would have owed him $33M?
Arkansas essentially saved them that by hiring him.
Weird how the media isn't doing cartwheels to celebrate that Kentucky is getting turned down and that their coaching search is incompetently being ran.
https://x.com/AdamFord92/status/1777819212997705922
So there's still a chance to fuck it up
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 09, 2024, 05:23 PMSo there's still a chance to fuck it up
I'd say more than a chance.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jY8chRXHe/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 05:27 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jY8chRXHe/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Thanks for posting that
I just need to know how to say his name. Nobody can seem to agree on if it rhymes with Pair or Par. I even found a sports guy who bounced back and forth in the same segment.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 09, 2024, 05:36 PMI just need to know how to say his name. Nobody can seem to agree on if it rhymes with Pair or Par. I even found a sports guy who bounced back and forth in the same segment.
Waiting to hear how Randy Rainwater pronounces it so I'll now what not to do.
Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 05:37 PMWaiting to hear how Randy Rainwater pronounces it so I'll now what not to do.
Jon Calamari
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 09, 2024, 04:16 PMForgot the link.
https://x.com/tristanuda/status/1777758692047294631?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Complete bullshit called out by his attorney, Arkansan Tom Mars.
Posted above this, with texts to UK admin.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 09, 2024, 04:06 PMLooks like Coach Cal was still negotiating with Kentucky after agreeing on the Arkansas deal.
Just good business, right?
Are you the first official darksider?
I know leaving a place after 15 years is hard, but did Cal and his wife look miserable to anyone else in those videos they posted? I have a feeling they'll walk out looking like Dana Altman in the presser tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/KentuckyNet/status/1777835307141910582?t=SEfkZ362p7ag7Ul_jcz_ZA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/KentuckyNet/status/1777835307141910582?t=SEfkZ362p7ag7Ul_jcz_ZA&s=19)
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 09, 2024, 06:16 PMI know leaving a place after 15 years is hard, but did Cal and his wife look miserable to anyone else in those videos they posted? I have a feeling they'll walk out looking like Dana Altman in the presser tomorrow.
Guess we'll see tomorrow. Had to be a weird video to make, so can't necessarily read anything into it.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 09, 2024, 06:16 PMI know leaving a place after 15 years is hard, but did Cal and his wife look miserable to anyone else in those videos they posted? I have a feeling they'll walk out looking like Dana Altman in the presser tomorrow.
Cal is a helluva salesman. I have a feeling he will walk out there all smiles.
Quote from: flash23 on Apr 09, 2024, 06:16 PMI know leaving a place after 15 years is hard, but did Cal and his wife look miserable to anyone else in those videos they posted? I have a feeling they'll walk out looking like Dana Altman in the presser tomorrow.
They were very likely miserable in Lexington for a while now. I think he's genuinely happy to be coming here for a fresh start but maybe I'm drunk on Kool Aid.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 09, 2024, 07:07 PMThey were very likely miserable in Lexington for a while now. I think he's genuinely happy to be coming here for a fresh start but maybe I'm drunk on Kool Aid.
Yeah, the Lexington community mostly turned on them some time ago. I hear there were billboards calling for him to be fired and gofundme accounts set up to help collect for his buyout, etc.
This is nothing like the Altman hire. Cal has heard the hog call in person for over two decades.
Altman's daughter had a meltdown and didn't want to come to Arkansas. She wanted to stay and graduate high school with her friends. It was a family mess.
Altman even alluded to it when he took the Oregon job. Someone in the media asked what would be different with Oregon and the Arkansas job and he said his kids were grown.
Kentucky can try to spin this any way they want.
The biggest name in college basketball filed for divorce before they could. It might've been what UK wanted, but you know it bruised their ego.
Candidates might want to think twice before accepting THAT job. Like Kalen DeBoer at Alabama, the heat will be on from day one. There will be no grace period.
UK guys making a big deal out of this for some reason
https://twitter.com/KyleTucker_ATH/status/1777863036101112102
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 06:11 PMAre you the first official darksider?
Not at all. We upgraded at coach.
Mrs. Cal talks about "her roommate".
https://x.com/barstooluk/status/1777822479395782934?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 09, 2024, 08:34 PMNot at all. We upgraded at coach.
agree 100%.
There we go. Wife says Cali-Pair-i.
Thats what I'm sticking with.
Her shirt was see through.
(https://h2.gifposter.com/gifs/reaction/disgust.gif)
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 09, 2024, 07:07 PMThey were very likely miserable in Lexington for a while now. I think he's genuinely happy to be coming here for a fresh start but maybe I'm drunk on Kool Aid.
I could be looking too much into it. For what it's worth in excited about the hire.
We all knew it was bullshit.
That was a piss poor way of saying "I lied."
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 09, 2024, 09:16 PMThat was a piss poor way of saying "I lied."
The situation was "fluid". Like the drizzlin' shits is "fluid".
Total spin. UK is in utter shock. Shock I tell ya.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 09, 2024, 08:56 PMMrs. Cal talks about "her roommate".
https://x.com/barstooluk/status/1777822479395782934?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
I would have assumed his wife would be younger and hotter. She looks older and sorta witchy
Ok.
Enough of the tears over leaving.
Tomorrow I need to hear some gratitude over being the HC at Arkansas.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 09, 2024, 09:28 PMI would have assumed his wife would be younger and hotter. She looks older and sorta witchy
Married since 1986. I'll reserve judgement until I can view what he saw 38 years ago.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 09, 2024, 03:16 PMhttps://x.com/BluegrassRabbi/status/1777717499066270050
read the whole thread
Can somebody post the gist? Don't have the twitters. Can only read single posts with no replies.
Cal often had coffee and made small talk with the Rabbi. After the Pittsburgh Synagogue massacre, Cal came to the rabbi shared his own connections to the area and asked what can I do.
Attended the Menorah lighting even after college officials advised him not to. Took an active role in speaking and encouraging everyone on a bad night of menorah lighting.
Cal is from the Pittsburgh area.
Fun fact, former Arkansas BB coach from that same area? Lanny Van Eman.
Cal named him years ago as one of the influential coaches in his career.
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Apr 09, 2024, 09:28 PMI would have assumed his wife would be younger and hotter. She looks older and sorta witchy
I'm afraid the first of a half-dozen scheduled Hog Calls at the press conference will summon her inner demons and kill everyone in the room.
I wonder what Bob Holt would think about that?
https://twitter.com/UnbiasedBrim1/status/1777862748681949493
Take names
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 09, 2024, 10:38 PMhttps://twitter.com/UnbiasedBrim1/status/1777862748681949493
Take names
Put this on a loop and play it every practice and before every game.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 09, 2024, 10:38 PMhttps://twitter.com/UnbiasedBrim1/status/1777862748681949493
Take names
Somewhere Sean Salisbury is taking a dick pick to send to Cal's wife.
I'm hoping we get a Cal with something to prove and chip on his shoulder. I hope he adjusts his approach and embraces the portal, even if it's just for key role players to provide leadership and push the young blue-chip players. What I do know is that he was a helluva recruiter at UK and Memphis, now he'll have a big bag of NIL loot and can really play basketball Santa Claus, making dreams come true.
The amount money that is going to be invested in this program is a big deal and a big change for the better, we're spending like a top basketball school. If this works out, this could really change the culture and power dynamics in our program. Let's be honest, this state is better at producing BB talent than football talent, now with NIL, it's cheaper to fund an elite BB program than a comparable football program. I know for many people my age and older remember the SWC days when we were relevant in football, but we have a chance now to be nationally relevant in a major sport since Red Boots was kicking ass. The amount of exposure that Cal will bring is nothing like what Muss brought and he did a helluva job until he didn't.
I ain't gonna lie, it will be weird as hell to see him in coaching our team after hating him all these years. That against UK next season will be crazy as hell.
Kenny Payne coming??
Now I'm just pissed. Way to start my day.
I'm telling you there is a massive psyop going on with all this shit. Any time Arkansas has a coaching search the media is quick to pile on when we don't make a hire within 15 minutes of their attention span. Nobody outside of this state likes us...at all. It's become a badge of honor.
People just pop up and say mindless shit denigrating the hire if/when we punch above our level. Something we've managed to do with major sport hires over the last decade in a half more often than not. Petrino, Beilema, Anderson, Calipari, and even Muss were all significant hires pulled from good/great situations. You can go back to Lou Holtz and see that we did the same thing back then.
What does it matter to anyone else but Arkansas fans that we hired a former super star head coach drifting into his golden years? Who are we hurting? He did Kentucky a favor fallling on his sword and if we're being honest we'll take him. It matters because Kentucky didn't get the satisfaction of firing his ass. It matters because the media didn't get to see the train wreck they hoped to see.
The power of the media shitting on Arkansas during the hiring process that led to Pittman was on full display. They made it look like the keystone cops because they wanted it to look that way. It was clear nobody wanted the gig, mainly the narratives created have put into the minds of people in the coaching community that Arkansas is broke, Arkansas is this and that. Truth be told you don't hire Pittman if there are multiple other more qualified choices willing to take it at the price point we wanted. We would have had a champaign tastes on a beer budget or we just go budget and hope for the best for a five or six year stretch and it might just work.
We've seen it again this go around with national beat writers openly lying about possible sanctions and all kinds of shit. Before that we "drove off Muss" when anyone with eyes could see he drove himself off. Then NOBODY wanted the job because we're broke. When that didn't work and it was apparent Cal was taking the job it became a deal where he was trying to stay at Kentucky but they wouldn't let him. LOL...what stupid lies. Now it's that we're buying a title. Hey geniuses EVERYBODY is buying a title or trying to. I hope in the announcement and the press conference there are some candid remarks toward the media in respect to how it ended with Muss and how it's going with Cal.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 09, 2024, 10:38 PMhttps://twitter.com/UnbiasedBrim1/status/1777862748681949493
Take names
Fuck these assholes. Here is UK's record in the NCAA the past 4 years:
20/21 - didn't make the tourney
21/22 - lost in 1st round
22/23 - lost in 2nd round
23/24 - lost in 1st round
Our record last 4 years:
20/21 - Elite 8
21/22 - Elite 8
22/23 - Sweet 16
23/24 - didn't make tourney
I feel like most of the people in that clip don't really pay attention to college basketball. Rachel Nichols saying we'd be ecstatic to make the second round of the tournament? Anyone who's really tapped in knows this was probably good for both schools and Calipari.
Keyshawn Johnson showed us some respect.
https://x.com/undisputed/status/1777350825553048030?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 10, 2024, 07:27 AMI feel like most of the people in that clip don't really pay attention to college basketball. Rachel Nichols saying we'd be ecstatic to make the second round of the tournament? Anyone who's really tapped in knows this was probably good for both schools and Calipari.
Keyshawn Johnson showed us some respect.
https://x.com/undisputed/status/1777350825553048030?s=46&t=lD8yygcF-k5I6Qnx3SfeHw
I'm not surprised at Keyshawn's take. NFL talent has more meaningful things to say about other sports than vice versa.
I always thought Cowherd was a moron, and him calling Arkansas a 3rd tier job proves it.
Fuck it, let's go full heel.
I want cal walking out to acdc's back in black wearing all black and sunglasses he never takes off.
On this day in 2012 we fired Bobby Petrino as our football coach.
Twelve years later to the date, we are hiring John Calapari as our basketball coach.
Why do I remwmber that? It's on my birthday.
I'll never forget I was outside on the patio at Loca Luna in 2012, constantly checking woopig. When the news broke that evening I remember turning to my wife and uttering "he's fired". This is redemption.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 08:40 AMOn this day in 2012 we fired Bobby Petrino as our football coach.
Twelve years later to the date, we are hiring John Calapari as our basketball coach.
Why do I remwmber that? It's on my birthday.
I'll never forget I was outside on the patio at Loca Luna in 2012, constantly checking woopig. When the news broke that evening I remember turning to my wife and uttering "he's fired". This is redemption.
Happy birthday!
Enjoy today's gift of the biggest name in college basketball being introduced as the Razorback's coach!
https://twitter.com/razorbackmbb/status/1778060489127575903?s=46&t=1gbBzfTq0vLiKQ0r9WU7dQ
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 10, 2024, 09:12 AMHappy birthday!
Enjoy today's gift of the biggest name in college basketball being introduced as the Razorback's coach!
Appreciate it! Think I'm gonna call it a day at lunch and make the trek up for the presser. Better than the alternative.
https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1778056635421733106
There's your sign...
Seeing his visage on the Razorback homepage is surreal.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 09:13 AMhttps://twitter.com/razorbackmbb/status/1778060489127575903?s=46&t=1gbBzfTq0vLiKQ0r9WU7dQ
The email I just got from Razorback MBB also said Cal Those Hogs.
I don't want that to be a thing.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 09:36 AMAppreciate it! Think I'm gonna call it a day at lunch and make the trek up for the presser. Better than the alternative.
Happy Birthday!
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 10, 2024, 09:39 AMThe email I just got from Razorback MBB also said Cal Those Hogs.
I don't want that to be a thing.
A-Fucking-Men.
Is there not a real man in the athletic department that has the balls to say, "Hey, that is fucking stupid. Don't put that out there."
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 09:13 AMhttps://twitter.com/razorbackmbb/status/1778060489127575903?s=46&t=1gbBzfTq0vLiKQ0r9WU7dQ
https://youtu.be/UPw-3e_pzqU
https://video.wmt.media/embed/4d6c9182-4d43-426a-93b7-6f34d3202395?utm_medium=email&elq_cid=47618&ehash=ba08849428e5f3ce4be5d284faac65ec3cf7682080339d3e18215651c734511d&aid=16078&pid=arkansas_email_eloqua&rid=2483
Some Cal Hype.
We upgraded big time. Cal may have his faults, but COLLEGE basketball coaching is not one of them. I'm excited.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 10, 2024, 09:45 AMhttps://video.wmt.media/embed/4d6c9182-4d43-426a-93b7-6f34d3202395?utm_medium=email&elq_cid=47618&ehash=ba08849428e5f3ce4be5d284faac65ec3cf7682080339d3e18215651c734511d&aid=16078&pid=arkansas_email_eloqua&rid=2483
Some Cal Hype.
(https://y.yarn.co/e527e07f-6dd3-4084-b025-6a7b5f44b20d_text.gif)
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 09:45 AMWe upgraded big time. Cal may have his faults, but COLLEGE basketball coaching is not one of them. I'm excited.
I prefer Cal's faults over Musselman's
https://x.com/KySportsRadio/status/1778072364275671061
pretty funny
Beat my by a minute. That was solid efforting from Tyson.
That's Cal's counter offer.
Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 09, 2024, 09:39 PMMarried since 1986. I'll reserve judgement until I can view what he saw 38 years ago.
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 08:40 AMOn this day in 2012 we fired Bobby Petrino as our football coach.
Twelve years later to the date, we are hiring John Calapari as our basketball coach.
Why do I remwmber that? It's on my birthday.
I'll never forget I was outside on the patio at Loca Luna in 2012, constantly checking woopig. When the news broke that evening I remember turning to my wife and uttering "he's fired". This is redemption.
I was at my kid's little league baseball game at Tyson Park in Springdale and read it on the woopigs.
$7 million per base, $1 million signing bonus. $500K bump ever year along with incentives for how far we advance in the ncaa tourney. maximum two year extension for making the big dance.
he really wanted to be gone from kentucky.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 09:43 AMA-Fucking-Men.
Is there not a real man in the athletic department that has the balls to say, "Hey, that is fucking stupid. Don't put that out there."
I'm that guy no matter where I go. Oddly business people don't think they need that guy.
What a day to be a Razorback.
The highs like this are worth the lows.
We deserve this day.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 10:00 AMhttps://x.com/KySportsRadio/status/1778072364275671061
pretty funny
Someone at Tyson really did a job with that one.
When my son was on a tour at the Walton School of Business they said that "Dino nuggets" were a product of a UA class, coming up with new product ideas to pitch.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 10, 2024, 10:10 AMI'm that guy no matter where I go. Oddly business people don't think they need that guy.
I was always the one that had to be the asshole and tell them things that wouldn't work.
Hell yeah, wasting no time meeting with money folks.
https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1778061478098026870 (https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1778061478098026870)
Stolt from another board.
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 08:40 AMOn this day in 2012 we fired Bobby Petrino as our football coach.
Twelve years later to the date, we are hiring John Calapari as our basketball coach.
Why do I remwmber that? It's on my birthday.
I'll never forget I was outside on the patio at Loca Luna in 2012, constantly checking woopig. When the news broke that evening I remember turning to my wife and uttering "he's fired". This is redemption.
1. Happy Birthday
2. BMFP is back home
3. Eclipse is over
4. Fuck Kentucky
5. Fuck Jeff Long
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Apr 10, 2024, 10:48 AMHell yeah, wasting no time meeting with money folks.
https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1778061478098026870 (https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1778061478098026870)
I thought the Waltons don't care about Arkansas sports?
If they donate to basketball, why not football. More people tailgate at football games, which means trips to Wal-Mart and Sam's, which would mean a better ROI?
Yes, people shop at Wal-Mart regardless, but if people see that they are contributing to football as well, it would be good PR.
For all of you who were cursing Yurachek a few days ago:
https://x.com/TreySchaap/status/1778082926166524214
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 11:00 AMI thought the Waltons don't care about Arkansas sports?
If they donate to basketball, why not football. More people tailgate at football games, which means trips to Wal-Mart and Sam's, which would mean a better ROI?
Yes, people shop at Wal-Mart regardless, but if people see that they are contributing to football as well, it would be good PR.
We'll see. My wife does a ton of business with Walton entities and I literally cannot recall a mention ever of traditional sports.
I'll eat some crow. I was critical of yurachek bc of the beard rumors.
If Beard was a smokescreen the whole time and was never our target and the deal with cal was the plan all along, Kudos to you Mr. Yurachek. 4-d chess indeed.
Nick Saban or Urban Meyer 2025.
I also have never heard of any connections of the Waltons to the traditional "big 3" sports-- Football, Basketball, and Baseball. But we have to remember, the Walton family has grown over the years. There has to be some younger ones around somewhere. Some of them may be interested. And, knowing their past history, there may be some alternative ways to help the program rather than straight donations to the NIL which will free up other money for the NIL.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 11:20 AMI also have never heard of any connections of the Waltons to the traditional "big 3" sports-- Football, Basketball, and Baseball.
Really? Never heard of Bud WALTON Arena?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 08:40 AMOn this day in 2012 we fired Bobby Petrino as our football coach.
Twelve years later to the date, we are hiring John Calapari as our basketball coach.
Why do I remwmber that? It's on my birthday.
I'll never forget I was outside on the patio at Loca Luna in 2012, constantly checking woopig. When the news broke that evening I remember turning to my wife and uttering "he's fired". This is redemption.
Happy Birthday!
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 10, 2024, 11:24 AMReally? Never heard of Bud WALTON Arena?
His heirs don't give a shit about UA lol. Mizzou maybe. I'm sure Kroenke is gonna start pushing money to NIL!
The younger ones are too busy pushing paternal leave and trying to annex the Buffalo.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 10, 2024, 11:24 AMReally? Never heard of Bud WALTON Arena?
Bud was the exception. He also gave Mizzou $15 million for their arena.
:maundoed: :maundoed:
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 10, 2024, 10:06 AMwell?[url="https://www.woopig.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5954;type=preview;file"]CAL.jpg[/url]
oof she looks old then
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Apr 10, 2024, 11:24 AMReally? Never heard of Bud WALTON Arena?
Also Methouri has a Walton arena. Paige?
But still beyond that my understanding is they are all fruit cakes these days
Pretty damn good idea.
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The handling of all of this has been superb.
I have no doubt Yurachek was aware of his willingness to come months ago and it entered into the calculus with Muss (and thankfully didn't backfire).
Cal handled the UK fanbase, etc very well. There's a lot of gratitude and very little ill will. Class.
Lots of huge money at Wal-Mart other than Walton money.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 10, 2024, 12:01 PMThe handling of all of this has been superb.
I have no doubt Yurachek was aware of his willingness to come months ago and it entered into the calculus with Muss (and thankfully didn't backfire).
Cal handled the UK fanbase, etc very well. There's a lot of gratitude and very little ill will. Class.
here's an article that explains (according to the folks shams talked to) how it went down. you can sign up for free to read it if you don't already have an account with the athletic.
https://theathletic.com/5405889/2024/04/10/john-calipari-arkansas-head-coach-inside-story/?redirected=1&source=twitterorganic&access_token=15512484&isNewUser=1&redirected=1&access_token=6081240
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 10, 2024, 12:04 PMLots of huge money at Wal-Mart other than Walton money.
This.
Don't know if this is bullshit or not.
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Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 10, 2024, 09:39 AMThe email I just got from Razorback MBB also said Cal Those Hogs.
I don't want that to be a thing.
Looks like it already is. Cheesy...
Quote from: BASS on Apr 10, 2024, 11:33 AMBud was the exception. He also gave Mizzou $15 million for their arena.
Not the exception. Sam was also a huge fan and supporter of the Hogs.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 10, 2024, 12:01 PMThe handling of all of this has been superb.
I have no doubt Yurachek was aware of his willingness to come months ago
I don't know about that, although the divorce has been building for years, the real tipping point was the first round NCAA loss to Oakland.
Quote from: CardHog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:20 PMNot the exception. Sam was also a huge fan and supporter of the Hogs.
Jim's kids are the only ones even around Arkansas anymore and they dgaf.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 10, 2024, 12:01 PMThe handling of all of this has been superb.
I have no doubt Yurachek was aware of his willingness to come months ago and it entered into the calculus with Muss (and thankfully didn't backfire).
Cal handled the UK fanbase, etc very well. There's a lot of gratitude and very little ill will. Class.
It really is a strange position for Arkansas fans to find ourselves in. A coaching search was handled professionally from all sides, no one involved got fired, AND we upgraded?
All because SMU wanted a new coach.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 10, 2024, 11:33 AMBud was the exception. He also gave Mizzou $15 million for their arena.
And remember, that was 30 years ago. Know of anything since then?
Someone else made the point that there is a lot of money that comes from Walmart that is not directly with the Waltons, and that is a good point. The Walker indoor practice facility is an example I believe. I always heard the original Mr. Walker was an employee of Sam's and had some stock from the beginning that turned in to many millions.
Quote from: cchog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:13 PMDon't know if this is bullshit or not.
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Not sure how much Mrs hunt is/will get involved, she's a billionaire.
Her son is very involved but not worth near as much until she dies. He still has fuck you money.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 12:38 PMAnd remember, that was 30 years ago. Know of anything since then?
Someone else made the point that there is a lot of money that comes from Walmart that is not directly with the Waltons, and that is a good point. The Walker indoor practice facility is an example I believe. I always heard the original Mr. Walker was an employee of Sam's and had some stock from the beginning that turned in to many millions.
Bob and Marilyn Bogle gave millions over their lifetime. He was the original stores manager.
Quote from: Pighair on Apr 10, 2024, 12:40 PMBob and Marilyn Bogle gave millions over their lifetime. He was the original stores manager.
I always wondered where the Bogle name came from.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 10, 2024, 12:27 PMIt really is a strange position for Arkansas fans to find ourselves in. A coaching search was handled professionally from all sides, no one involved got fired, AND we upgraded?
All because SMU wanted a new coach.
So, we can have signs at GameDay thanking them for a change?
Quote from: cchog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:13 PMDon't know if this is bullshit or not.
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For those saying what about today's WalMart - look at the picture quoted above and look above the Hogs on the stadium. I'm betting they didn't put that up there for free.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 10, 2024, 12:59 PMFor those saying what about today's WalMart - look at the picture quoted above and look above the Hogs on the stadium. I'm betting they didn't put that up there for free.
That's advertisement, not the same has giving money to pay athletes. They probably wrote that off as a business expense.
Yeah, public companies are gonna give tons to NIL lol.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:00 PMThat's advertisement, not the same has giving money to pay athletes. They probably wrote that off as a business expense.
Of course they did. But it is still revenue for the athletic department. That is what counts.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:00 PMThat's advertisement, not the same has giving money to pay athletes. They probably wrote that off as a business expense.
So that money doesn't count? I don't understand your rationale.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 01:02 PMOf course they did. But it is still revenue for the athletic department. That is what counts.
yep, nil IS advertisement. and any company from wright's bbq to nike writes it off.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:07 PMhere's an article that explains (according to the folks shams talked to) how it went down. you can sign up for free to read it if you don't already have an account with the athletic.
https://theathletic.com/5405889/2024/04/10/john-calipari-arkansas-head-coach-inside-story/?redirected=1&source=twitterorganic&access_token=15512484&isNewUser=1&redirected=1&access_token=6081240
Good read, thanks for posting this.
I have little doubt that Wal-Mart has created billionaires and millionaires similar to what happened with Microsoft, Apple, Alphabet/google, and Amazon. Now what's happening I figure is a lot of those ground floor billionaires and millionaires are old now and their offspring are essentially hedge fund babies that give zero fucks.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 01:11 PMyep, nil IS advertisement. and any company from wright's bbq to nike writes it off.
Ok. Is that money Wal-Mart paid to put their name on the stadium all going to NIL or a general fund? It seems that if we already had money from Wal-Mart going to NIL, we wouldn't be losing players just because Lasso Tits sucks.
We also would not have been hamstring to let Tits go after last year, due to his buyout amount.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:18 PMOk. Is that money Wal-Mart paid to put their name on the stadium all going to NIL or a general fund? It seems that if we already had money from Wal-Mart going to NIL, we wouldn't be losing players just because Lasso Tits sucks.
We also would not have been hamstring to let Tits go after last year, due to his buyout amount.
The folks that tell us we're losing kids to nil are the same ones that were telling us how messed up this coaching search was. Think about that for a minute.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:18 PMOk. Is that money Wal-Mart paid to put their name on the stadium all going to NIL or a general fund? It seems that if we already had money from Wal-Mart going to NIL, we wouldn't be losing players just because Lasso Tits sucks.
We also would not have been hamstring to let Tits go after last year, due to his buyout amount.
was just pointing out that nil is advertising, no different from walmart putting their logo in the stadium, and for companies that sponsor athletes, it's also a write off.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:07 PMhere's an article that explains (according to the folks shams talked to) how it went down. you can sign up for free to read it if you don't already have an account with the athletic.
https://theathletic.com/5405889/2024/04/10/john-calipari-arkansas-head-coach-inside-story/?redirected=1&source=twitterorganic&access_token=15512484&isNewUser=1&redirected=1&access_token=6081240
"Why not you?" Right question at the right time by HY.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:18 PMOk. Is that money Wal-Mart paid to put their name on the stadium all going to NIL or a general fund? It seems that if we already had money from Wal-Mart going to NIL, we wouldn't be losing players just because Lasso Tits sucks.
We also would not have been hamstring to let Tits go after last year, due to his buyout amount.
I believe that money would go to the athletic department, non NIL. But remember, we have to fund both now. My brother recently called me and asked me which I was going to donate to-- the AD or the Edge (NIL) thing. I told him both. They both have to have money (not that I am a major donor to either, but every little bit helps).
Quote from: animal on Apr 10, 2024, 01:15 PMI have little doubt that Wal-Mart has created billionaires and millionaires similar to what happened with Microsoft, Apple, Alphabet/google, and Amazon. Now what's happening I figure is a lot of those ground floor billionaires and millionaires are old now and their offspring are essentially hedge fund babies that give zero fucks.
I mean, look whose name is on our baseball stadium.
A lot of downstream beneficiaries from Wal-Mart money.
However, maybe Tyson just made it "cool" for the big names to get directly involved in athletics.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 12:07 PMhere's an article that explains (according to the folks shams talked to) how it went down. you can sign up for free to read it if you don't already have an account with the athletic.
https://theathletic.com/5405889/2024/04/10/john-calipari-arkansas-head-coach-inside-story/?redirected=1&source=twitterorganic&access_token=15512484&isNewUser=1&redirected=1&access_token=6081240
Good article.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 12:38 PMAnd remember, that was 30 years ago. Know of anything since then?
Someone else made the point that there is a lot of money that comes from Walmart that is not directly with the Waltons, and that is a good point. The Walker indoor practice facility is an example I believe. I always heard the original Mr. Walker was an employee of Sam's and had some stock from the beginning that turned in to many millions.
Willard Walker was hired by Sam Walton, co-founder of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., to manage what was then his Five and Dime store in Fayetteville. Walker would become an executive with the retailer. In October 1970, when Wal-Mart went public, it offered 300,000 shares for $15 each. Each share sold for $16.50 on the first day, and the company initially had only 800 shareholders. The Walkers were among the 800, and would later earn billions from the initial public offering.
https://talkbusiness.net/2016/09/philanthropist-pat-walker-co-founder-of-pat-and-willard-walker-charitable-foundation-has-died/
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 10, 2024, 02:00 PMWillard Walker was hired by Sam Walton, co-founder of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., to manage what was then his Five and Dime store in Fayetteville. Walker would become an executive with the retailer. In October 1970, when Wal-Mart went public, it offered 300,000 shares for $15 each. Each share sold for $16.50 on the first day, and the company initially had only 800 shareholders. The Walkers were among the 800, and would later earn billions from the initial public offering.
https://talkbusiness.net/2016/09/philanthropist-pat-walker-co-founder-of-pat-and-willard-walker-charitable-foundation-has-died/
The Whitaker family is another Wal-Mart family. The north entrance in Bud Walton arena is named after them. Pauline Whitaker was the cashier on the first day Sam opened the 5 and dime and rung up the very first sale. Her husband was one of Sam's first managers.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 10, 2024, 02:00 PMWillard Walker was hired by Sam Walton, co-founder of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., to manage what was then his Five and Dime store in Fayetteville. Walker would become an executive with the retailer. In October 1970, when Wal-Mart went public, it offered 300,000 shares for $15 each. Each share sold for $16.50 on the first day, and the company initially had only 800 shareholders. The Walkers were among the 800, and would later earn billions from the initial public offering.
https://talkbusiness.net/2016/09/philanthropist-pat-walker-co-founder-of-pat-and-willard-walker-charitable-foundation-has-died/
Thanks, I had read that before but it has been years.
Lol
https://x.com/athensluke/status/1778071169809195507
https://twitter.com/will_whitson2/status/1778146346370752671
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 10, 2024, 02:53 PMhttps://twitter.com/will_whitson2/status/1778146346370752671
What I just saw was JT telling the rest of the college world to hold my beer.
Is the press conference at 6 viewable anywhere?
Quote from: Silence Of The Hams on Apr 10, 2024, 03:00 PMIs the press conference at 6 viewable anywhere?
SEC network + will carry it live but I suspect all the major Arkansas TV stations will also have it.
https://x.com/choatemason/status/1778071942869791213?s=61&t=Y0HnJInXBN48z6WJDbQHzQ
Can somebody run to Trumbo's Men's Shop or raid Frank Broyles old wardrobe trunk and get the younger Mr Calipari something that isn't burnt orange Longhorn colors?
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Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 10, 2024, 11:54 AMPretty damn good idea.
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They're all over the place. Saw the same thing on one of the rotating electronic billboards on 530 coming into LR a few minutes ago.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 10, 2024, 01:42 PMI mean, look whose name is on our baseball stadium.
A lot of downstream beneficiaries from Wal-Mart money.
However, maybe Tyson just made it "cool" for the big names to get directly involved in athletics.
Plenty of current upper execs at Walmart give to the program as well. As others have said, there are plenty of mega wealthy people with Walmart ties who are Hog fans and not related to the Walton family.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 10, 2024, 03:27 PMThey're all over the place. Saw the same thing on one of the rotating electronic billboards on 530 coming into LR a few minutes ago.
Oh, now THAT is really going all out. Kudos.
What a crazy turn of events...
https://twitter.com/HogsPlus/status/1778156288846786565
Believe the formal press conference is at 6:30.
Quote from: RedRiverHog on Apr 10, 2024, 02:58 PMWhat I just saw was JT telling the rest of the college world to hold my beer.
Did he bring the dog?
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:00 PMThat's advertisement, not the same has giving money to pay athletes. They probably wrote that off as a business expense.
Something Walton pays the red that the AMP runs cause there's no way most those shows make money. There's no major league pro teams coming to NWA anytime soon. The Razorbacks being the Defacto sports entertainment, they should aupport they/them being damn good as it is a quality of life issue for the Walmart so they can attract talent. Entertainmemt is a biggie like those stacked Amp lineups.
I can't believe we were dogging on the wife earlier. At 65? Not bad.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 10, 2024, 03:27 PMThey're all over the place. Saw the same thing on one of the rotating electronic billboards on 530 coming into LR a few minutes ago.
I49 in nwa too
From this vantage point it looks like Cal is going to handle NIL like it needs to be handled. He is going to get personally involved in schilling for donations and he will direct exactly how it is to be used. Hopefully, his example will show what we need in football going forward.
Spend big money on a big time coach. Offer him the support and watch people get excited about it. Football is harder no doubt, but no reason we can't follow the same plan there.
It must be a nice change of pace for him to be somewhere he is actually wanted.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 10, 2024, 02:53 PMhttps://twitter.com/will_whitson2/status/1778146346370752671
Compare that to Muss's welcome at USC. Well...There was no welcome at USC.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 10, 2024, 01:18 PMOk. Is that money Wal-Mart paid to put their name on the stadium all going to NIL or a general fund? It seems that if we already had money from Wal-Mart going to NIL, we wouldn't be losing players just because Lasso Tits sucks.
We also would not have been hamstring to let Tits go after last year, due to his buyout amount.
that ad space is sold by Learfield IMG College (or whatever it's called now),they handle all the advertising/media rights for the Hogs.
Got my Tyson wangs on the grille right now. Not sure how they'll do on a Blackstone flat iron but whatever. This is quick and dirty. I did my 8 bucks worth...everybody has to #answertheCal
Quote from: Son of Spam on Apr 10, 2024, 04:35 PMIt must be a nice change of pace for him to be somewhere he is actually wanted.
Just that ought to reinvigorate him. This is going to be good.
Goodness, just looked it up and Johnelle Hunt's net worth is $4.8 billion. Tyson is $2.8 billion. Jerry Jones is $13.9 billion. That's roughly $20 billion dollars from families we already know are pretty big supporters. Properly motivated, they could make our NIL more or less untouchable with their couch cushion money.
If you want to fault Hunter for anything, I think he has been slow on the NIL because he hates it. Hopefully, we are on our way to remedying that situation.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Apr 10, 2024, 05:03 PMGoodness, just looked it up and Johnelle Hunt's net worth is $4.8 billion. Tyson is $2.8 billion. Jerry Jones is $13.9 billion. That's roughly $20 billion dollars from families we already know are pretty big supporters. Properly motivated, they could make our NIL more or less untouchable with their couch cushion money.
If you want to fault Hunter for anything, I think he has been slow on the NIL because he hates it. Hopefully, we are on our way to remedying that situation.
Hunter is playing 4d chess.
He knows the minute we succeed at the NIL game, the powers that be will get motivated and find a way to get rid of it.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 10, 2024, 05:20 PMHunter is playing 4d chess.
He knows the minute we succeed at the NIL game, the powers that be will get motivated and find a way to get rid of it.
Probably true.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 10, 2024, 04:39 PMCompare that to Muss's welcome at USC. Well...There was no welcome at USC.
Please tell me this is true.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 10, 2024, 05:24 PMPlease tell me this is true.
Empty airport from what I saw.
Probably 4k people here already
Quote from: animal on Apr 10, 2024, 04:52 PMGot my Tyson wangs on the grille right now. Not sure how they'll do on a Blackstone flat iron but whatever. This is quick and dirty. I did my 8 bucks worth...everybody has to #answertheCal
I got the Dino nuggets in the oven
it will be on the sec network for those who don't have sec+.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyWYFm9GBw
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 10, 2024, 05:29 PMEmpty airport from what I saw.
I'll bet you no more than 10% of the students at USC could tell you who the old basketball coach was or who replaced him.
On the other hand, Calipari is doing things right.
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1778193472014692770?
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 10, 2024, 05:47 PMit will be on the sec network for those who don't have sec+.
And if you're early, you can see a few minutes of why Finebaum is worthless.
https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1778193472014692770?t=UeeZ4eLLhBEVYNK8gJ1wgQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1778193472014692770?t=UeeZ4eLLhBEVYNK8gJ1wgQ&s=19)
I'm guessing SEC Networks coverage will differ from say, KNWA as that's what I was planning on watching? Guess I'll switch back and forth at first
Suddenly I can't get tweets to embed
That last one I tried to embed said Calipari made it a point to call Nolan this morning. Good move.
The press conference was on the espn+ schedule before, but now I see nada
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 10, 2024, 05:57 PMThe press conference was on the espn+ schedule before, but now I see nada
sec network
Lot of people there
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Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 10, 2024, 05:57 PMThe press conference was on the espn+ schedule before, but now I see nada
Use the link in the Razorback app announcement
I'm about 3 rows up to the right from that pic.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 10, 2024, 05:51 PMAnd if you're early, you can see a few minutes of why Finebaum is worthless.
Inordinate amount of callers from Alabama.
Joe Johnson in attendance
https://www.instagram.com/razorbackmbb/live/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-8Zy9IgVQ
45 min of walking through the A, here we go
Camera guy didn't know who was who after the big three sports
Reggie Merritt?
Fuck Chuck Barrett too.
Are we expecting coach Cal to remember all these names? What a slow boring way to start the press conference.
Is it weird that Kamani got a bigger cheer than almost any other former player?
Hunter has to get some "f the haters" in
No mention of the Lady's BB team, hmmm
Do other schools act like they've never hired a coach before?
Fuck, get on with it
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 10, 2024, 06:13 PMDo other schools act like they've never hired a coach before?
Just another day spending 10 or 15 million for John Tyson. He looks like he's going fishing as soon as this is over.
I wonder if it was like dominos.
Once one of the state's billionaires was in, they all said "frick it, we're in too"
hunter not all that great at long speeches.
Good, not going to make Cal call those hogs.
We are soooo bad at these things.
He's our Boyd Crowder and we're a bunch of toothless hillbillies that just need a hit of crack and some hope.
I love this already
Lol Malik Monk wasn't in the draft montage
It was a priest. Maybe we really are on a mission from God.
cal is one smooth motherfucker.
Is that Chuck Barrett up on stage? My view isn't good from Instagram
This is a little overdone.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 10, 2024, 06:34 PMThis is a little overdone.
The intro yes. But the interview thing is pretty good.
He's in his element doing a presser like this
This is how you win the room, vegashog is right.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 10, 2024, 06:39 PMHe's in his element doing a presser like this
Yeah he is really good on stage.
He is a master salesman, I can see how he recruited #1 classes
Jesus, usually these new coach conferences are bizarre and awkward. This dude is straight up smooth
"Pair-ee"
That should settle it
Well, I like him.
Sure was a lot of butt hurt Kentucky fans in the chat on instagram trying to warn everyone about Cal sucking so much. I guess I'll take going to the tournament and having high ranking recruiting classes and ready to win in the SEC over the phoning it in that we saw this past season.
Quote from: animal on Apr 10, 2024, 06:46 PMSure was a lot of butt hurt Kentucky fans in the chat on instagram trying to warn everyone about Cal sucking so much. I guess I'll take going to the tournament and having high ranking recruiting classes and ready to win in the SEC over the phoning it in that we saw this past season.
yeah, that was hilarious.
Cal giving Kleine some shit was funny.
so he spent a lot of time explaining how he felt about ky and his leaving.
now bob holt can ask the same questions.
They need to power wash the roof of BWA.
We really don't need our Arkansas media to be seen and heard on national TV
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 10, 2024, 06:52 PMThey need to power wash the roof of BWA.
lol. I had the same thought as the panned the stadium. Noticed they cut away just as the roof was coming into view.
Hunter is already setting the stage to blame the fans when NIL doesn't get funded at the level Cal needs to win.
Was Hunter in a motorcycle accident?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 07:03 PMHunter is already setting the stage to blame the fans when NIL doesn't get funded at the level Cal needs to win.
i didn't see it that way.
think he was saying don't sit back and count on tyson to fund this thing by himself year after year.
I really like Cal. This is the first time I've listened to him at length. He is definitely is a smooth talked.
Bob has to have a mental disability right??
How does Bob keep getting the mic? Geez, cut him off. You can tell Hunter is cringing every time he asks a question.
Watch One and Not Done on ESPN+ when you get the chance.
I am not watching the Q&A from the likes of Bob Holt. Too frustrating.
The other part was really good though.
This fucker can recruit.
About the 6th time he's told his KY players and recruits they can come on over
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 10, 2024, 06:10 PMReggie Merritt?
Haven't heard that name in a while. Only thing I remember is him sinking a half court shot at the buzzer going into halftime against someone. '95-ish maybe?
Quote from: aaron on Apr 10, 2024, 07:33 PMHaven't heard that name in a while. Only thing I remember is him sinking a half court shot at the buzzer going into halftime against someone. '95-ish maybe?
That was Reggie Garrett. Merritt was a walk-on on the 94 team.
Today was a big f'n deal, gentlemen.
Woo Pig.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 10, 2024, 07:38 PMThat was Reggie Garrett. Merritt was a walk-on on the 94 team.
Merritt was (and may still be) refereeing HS ball in NEA, probably ref'ing other levels too. Talked to him for a minute. Seemed like a great guy
That was essentially a 1.5 hour commercial for Arkansas sports programs. In the past I couldn't stand him, but it's easy to see why he can recruit. I'm in 100%
The whole thing was embarrassing on our part.
Calipari acted like he should be running the entire university. It's hard to envision Hunter Yurachek being his boss. He upstaged him big time.
Hunter is clunky, Pittman is a yokel, DVH is class though. But a marked difference in anything we've had here ever as far as class and style.
I hope Calipari doesn't run off in the middle of the night because he can't handle the stupidity. He doesn't belong here and it shows. He's way too classy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 07:16 PMI really like Cal. This is the first time I've listened to him at length. He is definitely is a smooth talked.
I started listening to Calipari press conferences 2 or 3 years ago, in relationship to Arkansas games. He grew on me and then I started listening to more of his press conferences during the last 2 years. So I was an early adopter of liking the guy.
Tyson fired a bunch of illegals in a plant closure somewhere so we can cut down some nets. Now we're playing cutthroat.
Quote from: aaron on Apr 10, 2024, 07:33 PMHaven't heard that name in a while. Only thing I remember is him sinking a half court shot at the buzzer going into halftime against someone. '95-ish maybe?
1995 Super Bowl Sunday against Rick Pitino's Kentucky Wildcats. #3 vs. #5 in the polls. I forget who was ranked what. Freezing rain covered NW Arkansas on the drive up that morning. Garrett hit a half court shot at the halftime buzzer that flipped the net up over the rim. It was glorious to see.
A friend of mine had season tickets and we went to several games the first couple of years at BWA. Always different people sitting in our section at every game. That game was full of blue haired guys and their old wives. So you knew who owned the tickets.
Quote from: red death on Apr 10, 2024, 07:42 PMThe whole thing was embarrassing on our part.
Calipari acted like he should be running the entire university. It's hard to envision Hunter Yurachek being his boss. He upstaged him big time.
Hunter is clunky, Pittman is a yokel, DVH is class though. But a marked difference in anything we've had here ever as far as class and style.
I hope Calipari doesn't run off in the middle of the night because he can't handle the stupidity. He doesn't belong here and it shows. He's way too classy.
Disagree strongly. Thought it was well done. But then I don't see the dark side of everything like you do.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 10, 2024, 08:00 PM1995 Super Bowl Sunday against Rick Pitino's Kentucky Wildcats. #3 vs. #5 in the polls. I forget who was ranked what. Freezing rain covered NW Arkansas on the drive up that morning. Garrett hit a half court shot at the halftime buzzer that flipped the net up over the rim. It was glorious to see.
A friend of mine had season tickets and we went to several games the first couple of years at BWA. Always different people sitting in our section at every game. That game was full of blue haired guys and their old wives. So you knew who owned the tickets.
Strangely enough I think we were #9 vs. #5 UK which is crazy considering how good we were. Those teams were stacked. Probably the best game in BWA.
Quote from: red death on Apr 10, 2024, 07:42 PMThe whole thing was embarrassing on our part.
Calipari acted like he should be running the entire university. It's hard to envision Hunter Yurachek being his boss. He upstaged him big time.
Hunter is clunky, Pittman is a yokel, DVH is class though. But a marked difference in anything we've had here ever as far as class and style.
I hope Calipari doesn't run off in the middle of the night because he can't handle the stupidity. He doesn't belong here and it shows. He's way too classy.
Yeah I don't think it was that bad. I'm sure Hunter was a bit nervous, John is a class act and a celebrity. We just hired a fucking celebrity HOF basketball coach who recruits at the highest level. I seriously doubt there's too many places that would have several thousand fans show up to a midweek press conference. Watching Muss' intro it seemed like there was 20 people there. They don't give 2 shits. 4K people showing up is why he is fucking here. He has an ego and wants and knows he can win here.
Was kinda cool to see him already call out the bs press conference and ask wtf you keep giving this one guy the mic and not everyone else who's had their hand up. Hope he changes that, stupid shit has been going on way too long and we've put up with it. There was none of that dumb shit in Muss' at USC, I don't think one person even got the mic twice.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 10, 2024, 08:04 PMStrangely enough I think we were #9 vs. #5 UK which is crazy considering how good we were. Those teams were stacked. Probably the best game in BWA.
You may be right. One of them was ranked #5. I think. Maybe.
Thurman (I think) hit a little jumper at the end to take the lead. Great drive home listening to the 49ers dismantle the Chargers.
Today we went from being "on the map" of college basketball to being the "you are here" circle on the map of college basketball.
Cal's staff and roster build will be when the balls drop. As cringy as the intro/presser can be it was done pretty well. Can't wait for the next steps.
Quote from: red death on Apr 10, 2024, 07:42 PMThe whole thing was embarrassing on our part.
Calipari acted like he should be running the entire university. It's hard to envision Hunter Yurachek being his boss. He upstaged him big time.
Hunter is clunky, Pittman is a yokel, DVH is class though. But a marked difference in anything we've had here ever as far as class and style.
I hope Calipari doesn't run off in the middle of the night because he can't handle the stupidity. He doesn't belong here and it shows. He's way too classy.
You're certainly a self hater. That is, if you really are an Arkansas fan.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 10, 2024, 08:30 PMYou're certainly a self hater. That is, if you really are an Arkansas fan.
no shit. two days ago this guy was saying cal getting hired was the greatest thing ever.
the press conference wasn't for the fucking ad, and i'd wager not one other fan came out of that thinking cal was going to take over the athletic program and run off in the middle of the night, both at the same time.
I was impressed he left the stage just before the press conference concluded saying he wanted to personally meet and thank the other coaches for coming. You could hear him addressing each coach until they cut his mike.
Do I think HY is a great public speaker? No.
Do I think Cal is a great public speaker? Yes.
Hunter doesn't need to be a great public speaker. Cal, on the other hand, better fucking kill at being a great public speaker.
HY does his job very well just like Cal does at his.
Not sure what all the fuss is about.
It seems pretty clear that Cal would still be at Kentucky if Kentucky had given him the resources to succeed.
Quote from: dhog on Apr 10, 2024, 08:43 PMI was impressed he left the stage just before the press conference concluded saying he wanted to personally meet and thank the other coaches for coming. You could hear him addressing each coach until they cut his mike.
Agreed. I kept waiting on something uncouth being said and I also thought it was a great gesture. He also asked DVH what the score of the game today was.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 08:46 PMIt seems pretty clear that Cal would still be at Kentucky if Kentucky had given him the resources to succeed.
Who cares? They didn't, and he's not.
compare and contrast.
I just want to say thank you to Eric for finally moving his busted up broke down Rusted out piece of shit VW Van down the road.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Apr 10, 2024, 08:50 PMWho cares? They didn't, and he's not.
sorry, didn't realize I said we should care. I was only making an observation based on Cal's comment about administrations winning championships. But since you brought it up. We should care. It means Arkansas' administration is in it to win it.
DVH waves bye (https://twitter.com/mitch_shuffield/status/1778134931203326205?t=8to-saastIiSVKbb8o-27g&s=19)
Kudos to HY for giving props to Muss. Same to Cal for talking up Muss, Eddie, Nolan and Frank. He had nothing bad to say about UK fans or the state, so you know the issue was with the AD. He didn't say anything negative about him, but by saying nothing it's the same thing. I was very impressed.
Did they announce the attendance?
These five stars about to come at you so fast just messes you up.
I'm pretty surprised what a national story this is.
Quote from: wmr on Apr 10, 2024, 09:23 PMI'm pretty surprised what a national story this is.
I'm surprised how little I care about this.
Quote from: dhog on Apr 10, 2024, 08:43 PMI was impressed he left the stage just before the press conference concluded saying he wanted to personally meet and thank the other coaches for coming. You could hear him addressing each coach until they cut his mike.
And also a clever way to escape the Hog Call!
Quote from: wmr on Apr 10, 2024, 09:23 PMI'm pretty surprised what a national story this is.
You don't poach Kentucky's coach, under any circumstances and it not be one of the biggest stories in basketball.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 10, 2024, 08:52 PM
compare and contrast.
I just want to say thank you to Eric for finally moving his busted up broke down Rusted out piece of shit VW Van down the road.
That's 90% press in attendance.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 10, 2024, 09:31 PMYou don't poach Kentucky's coach, under any circumstances and it not be one of the biggest stories in basketball.
I love it! Let's go!
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 10, 2024, 09:31 PMAnd also a clever way to escape the Hog Call!
We shouldn't expect a new hire to do WPS. What's the point?
It always comes across as awkward. Almost like hazing.
Quote from: wmr on Apr 10, 2024, 09:49 PMWe shouldn't expect a new hire to do WPS. What's the point?
It always comes across as awkward. Almost like hazing.
I don't really care at all. I was just making light of all you folks who were saying earlier what a terrible thing it was to make them do a Hog Call. I don't really agree it's that bad, but Calipari sidestepped it easily.
How did Tyson and Calipari know each other? Like how did they even meet? They both members of some rich guy secret society?
He's just has a lot more polished delivery on conveying a point like talking about the types of kids he wants to bring in. Makes no bones about it...wants good kids that are focused on basketball. Yes everyone says that...but when he says it he makes you believe it.
Beyond that if you need to know why...I think it's more about just taking on a new challenge. Sure it's also about wanting to coach 5 or so more years and having that job security that maybe he wasn't going to get at Kentucky. He talked about administrations win championships. I don't think you can argue with that with UCONN's success in basketball mens and she-males. If he's got the right set of billionaires sat down asking him what he needs...you damn right they have his attention and he to them. This essentially what Arkansas fans have been clamoring about for a while only enhanced by NIL/portal. HY makes the point that NIL is still going to take viewers like you to pitch in...money isn't in the bag yet. I don't know that I totally believe that but sure ok.
I have Alexa.
Just to see how up to date, I asked who the head coach of Arkansas Razorbacks basketball was.
She said, John Pelphrey.
I had to ask again. She definitely said Pelphrey, not Calipari.
Now I'm worried which Kentucky John did we actually get.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 10, 2024, 09:08 PMDid they announce the attendance?
My guess would be around 6k.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 10, 2024, 10:46 PMMy guess would be around 6k.
That's a home game number for some teams. Is Friday the 1st day he can contact recruits?
If anyone gives a shit....
https://x.com/jimrome/status/1778152848565674324?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 10, 2024, 11:06 PMThat's a home game number for some teams. Is Friday the 1st day he can contact recruits?
More than a home game for USC...
I can't wait for the Cal meets Bobby story.
Petrino has a well established hatred for Kentucky.
Kenny Payne will be joining the staff. We're so fucking back. Not sure Battle or Mark will have a spot we're gonna have to be picky.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 11, 2024, 05:03 AMI can't wait for the Cal meets Bobby story.
Petrino has a well established hatred for Kentucky.
And Pertino is now an OC. I doubt Cal gives two shits what Petrino thinks and neither does anyone else.
Other possible assistants
Kenny Payne (known killer as a recruiter)
Orlando Antigua (known killer as a recruiter)
Bruiser Flint (long time Cal guy)
These guys as head coaches were horrendous so don't go thinking we have a "coach in waiting".
Ronnie Brewer Jr? Maybe he gets to stay.
Ronald Coleman (heavy ties to Chicago area)
Ray Oliver (DEI, player development) has been with Cal for much of his career)...former strength coach
Haha our coach has an assistant named Bruiser.
I love this coach so much.
In breaking news The Buzz here in Little Rock is disappointed Cal didn't call the Hogs. Fml.
I'm biased but I hope we keep Boothead Jr.
Quote from: red death on Apr 11, 2024, 07:27 AMHaha our coach has an assistant named Bruiser.
I love this coach so much.
In breaking news The Buzz here in Little Rock is disappointed Cal didn't call the Hogs. Fml.
Just heard that
Who gives a fuk if he calls the hogs.
I saw a photo of he and his family calling the hogs so must have been after the tv cameras had stopped.
Quote from: Gambler on Apr 10, 2024, 11:06 PMThat's a home game number for some teams. Is Friday the 1st day he can contact recruits?
Yep, dead period ends Friday
Quote from: animal on Apr 11, 2024, 07:47 AMJust heard that
Who gives a fuk if he calls the hogs.
They're still bitching about it on the Buzz. I'm glad he didn't call the hogs. We have the most retarded fan base in the SEC. Goddam.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Apr 10, 2024, 09:31 PMI'm surprised how little I care about this.
I'm kind of in this boat. I used to eat this kind of shit up. But I realized it don't mean shit. Winning games means shit.
Quote from: CardHog on Apr 11, 2024, 06:16 AMAnd Pertino is now an OC. I doubt Cal gives two shits what Petrino thinks and neither does anyone else.
Relax. I just figured they'd be able to find some common ground and laugh a little.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 10, 2024, 09:02 PMKudos to HY for giving props to Muss. Same to Cal for talking up Muss, Eddie, Nolan and Frank. He had nothing bad to say about UK fans or the state, so you know the issue was with the AD. He didn't say anything negative about him, but by saying nothing it's the same thing. I was very impressed.
This has been the friendliest coaching change ever.
Except for butthurt Kentucky fans, but fuck them anyway.
Quote from: mde114 on Apr 11, 2024, 08:30 AMThey're still bitching about it on the Buzz. I'm glad he didn't call the hogs. We have the most retarded fan base in the SEC. Goddam.
That Savage guy is a former customer. Nice guy but yeah he gets a little worked up.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 11, 2024, 08:25 AMYep, dead period ends Friday
Dead period actually ends today at noon.
I like what Cal had to say about the changing college landscape. Players that can't play in the NBA are staying in college because of NIL, thus his 18 year old guys are going against physically mature 24 year olds or whatever. Purdue / UConn had players on the team for over 3 years. He's (hopefully) going to be more active in the transfer portal and looking for some dudes in his recruiting.
As grandmama said, "we need to get some mens".
Yes I know Larry Johnson is the one that said that about Arkansas on 1991. If you don't get the reference you're either too young or so old your memory is shit.
Im surprised nobody has mentioned the shoutout HY gave to Warren Stephens for helping to put this deal together. I was under the impression that the Stephens family has been minimally involved in UA athletics since Broyles said no to War Memorial expansion. This would be great if they would be a driving force behind the NIL program.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Apr 11, 2024, 09:27 AMIm surprised nobody has mentioned the shoutout HY gave to Warren Stephens for helping to put this deal together. I was under the impression that the Stephens family has been minimally involved in UA athletics since Broyles said no to War Memorial expansion. This would be great if they would be a driving force behind the NIL program.
I didn't see that part of the introductory presser, but it was mentioned in this morning's paper. I was also glad to see it. Support from the Stephens family is important.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 11, 2024, 09:08 AMDead period actually ends today at noon.
You're right. Was thinking it's midnight tonight.
Not one damn question on if he still considers us a "regional" power. The line he used when he got tired of losing to Nolan and stopped playing us at Tigger High. It's just so hard to wrap my head around this. So much history.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Apr 11, 2024, 09:45 AMNot one damn question on if he still considers us a "regional" power. The line he used when he got tired of losing to Nolan and stopped playing us at Tigger High. It's just so hard to wrap my head around this. So much history.
In the past. No need to start pissing in the pool this early. It wouldn't lead to anything positive.
Clearly he thought we were more than a regional power back then or else he wouldn't have stopped playing us.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 11, 2024, 10:01 AMClearly he thought we were more than a regional power back then or else he wouldn't have stopped playing us.
That had nothing to do with it. He was sick of us poaching Memphis athletes and wanted to put a stop to it.
Quote from: WaywardMemphian on Apr 11, 2024, 09:45 AMNot one damn question on if he still considers us a "regional" power. The line he used when he got tired of losing to Nolan and stopped playing us at Tigger High. It's just so hard to wrap my head around this. So much history.
We
were pretty "regional" under Heath, which is when he said it.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Apr 11, 2024, 10:05 AMThat had nothing to do with it. He was sick of us poaching Memphis athletes and wanted to put a stop to it.
I understand and that doesn't invalidate my statement. He clearly saw us as a major power, not just regional. But he had to say things like that so as to sway kids away from us.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 11, 2024, 10:05 AMWe were pretty "regional" under Heath, which is when he said it.
This unfortunately was true too.
Last night was textbook by Cal. He paid homage to Frank, Eddie, Nolan, the Triplets, mentioned Ron Brewer (maybe that's good for Jr?). He joked with Kleine. He was completely comfortable and owning the room.
He called us a premier job last night. Forget the past.
We have our Godfather. All hail kiss the ring.
Quote from: red death on Apr 11, 2024, 10:16 AMLast night was textbook by Cal. He paid homage to Frank, Eddie, Nolan, the Triplets, mentioned Ron Brewer (maybe that's good for Jr?). He joked with Kleine. He was completely comfortable and owning the room.
He called us a premier job last night. Forget the past.
We have our Godfather. All hail kiss the ring.
This you?
Quote from: red death on Apr 10, 2024, 07:42 PMThe whole thing was embarrassing on our part.
Calipari acted like he should be running the entire university. It's hard to envision Hunter Yurachek being his boss. He upstaged him big time.
Hunter is clunky, Pittman is a yokel, DVH is class though. But a marked difference in anything we've had here ever as far as class and style.
I hope Calipari doesn't run off in the middle of the night because he can't handle the stupidity. He doesn't belong here and it shows. He's way too classy.
The meeting between Hunter and Cal. What if there was never a "what about you?" and Cal stayed at Kentucky.
Isn't that weird? It seems somehow inappropriate for a current SEC coach to be helping another school hire a coach away from a third SEC school. Imagine Musselman staying at Arkansas and consulting with the Kentucky AD to hire Beard. Doesn't seem right.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 11, 2024, 12:39 PMThe meeting between Hunter and Cal. What if there was never a "what about you?" and Cal stayed at Kentucky.
Isn't that weird? It seems somehow inappropriate for a current SEC coach to be helping another school hire a coach away from a third SEC school. Imagine Musselman staying at Arkansas and consulting with the Kentucky AD to hire Beard. Doesn't seem right.
What are you talking about about?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 11, 2024, 12:39 PMThe meeting between Hunter and Cal. What if there was never a "what about you?" and Cal stayed at Kentucky.
Isn't that weird? It seems somehow inappropriate for a current SEC coach to be helping another school hire a coach away from a third SEC school. Imagine Musselman staying at Arkansas and consulting with the Kentucky AD to hire Beard. Doesn't seem right.
How do we know Cal was suggesting other SEC coaches? It's pretty common practice for AD's to consult with other coaches when making a new hire. Bobby Knight recommended Eddie Sutton to Frank.
Norlander says Hurley says definitively "no" to UK.
Kind of obvious to most of us, but guess they needed to hear it.
Quote from: Mazeppa Pompazoidi on Apr 11, 2024, 01:24 PMHow do we know Cal was suggesting other SEC coaches? It's pretty common practice for AD's to consult with other coaches when making a new hire. Bobby Knight recommended Eddie Sutton to Frank.
I'm assuming. Because Beard and Jans were two of the top names on the leaked list.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 11, 2024, 12:39 PMThe meeting between Hunter and Cal. What if there was never a "what about you?" and Cal stayed at Kentucky.
Isn't that weird? It seems somehow inappropriate for a current SEC coach to be helping another school hire a coach away from a third SEC school. Imagine Musselman staying at Arkansas and consulting with the Kentucky AD to hire Beard. Doesn't seem right.
If you think it was a coincidence that HY happened to be in Phoenix when cal was, there's oceanfront for sale just down the block from the hotel.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 11, 2024, 03:12 PMIf you think it was a coincidence that HY happened to be in Phoenix when cal was, there's oceanfront for sale just down the block from the hotel.
Final Four.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/teratalmadge/3344016005847646475?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MWZ0M3lkeWtpbmtzNg==
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 11, 2024, 03:23 PMFinal Four.
Crazy that the AD at a Power 5 school would go to the Final Four and the National Championship game.
I'd bet Cal knew exactly why HY was in his room. HY knew exactly why he was there too. It was just a game of chicken (Tyson chicken) on who would ask first.
I seriously doubt HY had an epiphany sitting next the "Don" of college basketball.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Apr 11, 2024, 03:56 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/stories/teratalmadge/3344016005847646475?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MWZ0M3lkeWtpbmtzNg==
Can't see anything
I didn't realize there were fans sitting in the upper levels of the arena. I don't remember the cameras ever panning to the stadium seating.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 11, 2024, 11:14 AMThis you?
Just because we're not well polished with Chuck, Yurachek, Bob Holt and Pittman?
They are embarrassing and Calipari is class. My comment is directed at how he outshined them all. We have our share of goobs and he's not.
That triggered a lot of people for some reason maybe could've worded better. And I was drunk.
I do love the comment about my personalities though.
I wouldn't classify HY, Chuck, or Pittman as "goobs". Bob Holt, absolutely. The fact they let him ask questions amazes me.
I don't think HY or Pittman are polished speakers from a delivery stand point. But few are. But they don't come across as dumb or unprofessional.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 11, 2024, 04:26 PMI wouldn't classify HY, Chuck, or Pittman as "goobs". Bob Holt, absolutely. The fact they let him ask questions amazes me.
I don't think HY or Pittman are polished speakers from a delivery stand point. But few are. But they don't come across as dumb or unprofessional.
It's not like Holt works for the university. If they denied credentials to everyone in Arkansas media who came across like a goober, there would be like two or three people at each press conference.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 11, 2024, 04:30 PMIt's not like Holt works for the university. If they denied credentials to everyone in Arkansas media who came across like a goober, there would be like two or three people at each press conference.
I know. I don't seriously believe the University would prevent him from questions. It does seems to me that none of the coaches like Bob's questions. Hunter's responses to Bob's were very pointed and a bit harsh.
Quote from: red death on Apr 11, 2024, 04:20 PMJust because we're not well polished with Chuck, Yurachek, Bob Holt and Pittman?
They are embarrassing and Calipari is class. My comment is directed at how he outshined them all. We have our share of goobs and he's not.
That triggered a lot of people for some reason maybe could've worded better. And I was drunk.
I do love the comment about my personalities though.
in vino veritas
Real you coming out?
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 11, 2024, 04:09 PMI'd bet Cal knew exactly why HY was in his room. HY knew exactly why he was there too. It was just a game of chicken (Tyson chicken) on who would ask first.
I seriously doubt HY had an epiphany sitting next the "Don" of college basketball.
Cal tells that same story to Bo back in a 2011 interview so I would take all this current shit with a huge chunk of salt.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 11, 2024, 04:35 PMI know. I don't seriously believe the University would prevent him from questions. It does seems to me that none of the coaches like Bob's questions. Hunter's responses to Bob's were very pointed and a bit harsh.
From watching some of our conferences plus a lot of the SEC media days stuff, it seems like Bob and his questions are kind of a running joke around the league. He almost always gets the first question, even in league wide media events. It's probably kind of like these high schools working together to let the kid with disabilities score a TD at the end of a blowout.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 11, 2024, 04:37 PMin vino veritas
Real you coming out?
I've never said a bad word about Calipari. Ever.
I love the hire and can't believe we got so lucky.
I fuck around but I'm serious on that.
And Chuck Barrett will always be a goober. And Pittman is a yokel. And Jolene. And I love Hunter but he's not polished.
And our media is dumb. I hope the culture shock doesn't run them off. All that I said.
I'm stoked.
Pittman's wife looked miserable the entirety of the press conference.
Quote from: red death on Apr 11, 2024, 04:50 PMI've never said a bad word about Calipari. Ever.
I love the hire and can't believe we got so lucky.
I fuck around but I'm serious on that.
And Chuck Barrett will always be a goober. And Pittman is a yokel. And Jolene. And I love Hunter but he's not polished.
And our media is dumb. I hope the culture shock doesn't run them off. All that I said.
I'm stoked.
Yet somehow, you make it irritating to the rest of us.
BYU's Mark Pope is a candidate according to Rothstein.
UK fans predictably thrilled
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 11, 2024, 04:38 PMFrom watching some of our conferences plus a lot of the SEC media days stuff, it seems like Bob and his questions are kind of a running joke around the league. He almost always gets the first question, even in league wide media events. It's probably kind of like these high schools working together to let the kid with disabilities score a TD at the end of a blowout.
As Bob is asking questions yesterday you could see Hutchinson trying his best to hold back the laughter. I'd bet someone else in the rear was egging it on.
I did notice that Cal picked on somebody that wasn't getting the mic. I think that was former woopiger Brandon Marcelo who btw asked an intelligent question but he's not a beat writer for Arkansas. I think he does stuff for Auburn or Miss State...can't recall.
Quote from: animal on Apr 11, 2024, 05:04 PMAs Bob is asking questions yesterday you could see Hutchinson trying his best to hold back the laughter. I'd bet someone else in the rear was egging it on.
I did notice that Cal picked on somebody that wasn't getting the mic. I think that was former woopiger Brandon Marcelo who btw asked an intelligent question but he's not a beat writer for Arkansas. I think he does stuff for Auburn or Miss State...can't recall.
24/7 sports
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 11, 2024, 04:55 PMYet somehow, you make it irritating to the rest of us.
That's a sign of low testosterone.
Low T center. Check it out.
You know, men experience a sudden drop in testosterone after age 50.
Quote from: animal on Apr 11, 2024, 05:04 PMAs Bob is asking questions yesterday you could see Hutchinson trying his best to hold back the laughter. I'd bet someone else in the rear was egging it on.
I did notice that Cal picked on somebody that wasn't getting the mic. I think that was former woopiger Brandon Marcelo who btw asked an intelligent question but he's not a beat writer for Arkansas. I think he does stuff for Auburn or Miss State...can't recall.
I believe he covered Miss St and I know Auburn previously but he's a national writer now for 247. He lives in NWA.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 11, 2024, 04:55 PMYet somehow, you make it irritating to the rest of us.
Years of practice.
Quote from: red death on Apr 11, 2024, 05:11 PMThat's a sign of low testosterone.
Low T center. Check it out.
You know, men experience a sudden drop in testosterone after age 50.
Little men experience little man syndrome their whole life.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Apr 10, 2024, 10:19 PMHow did Tyson and Calipari know each other? Like how did they even meet? They both members of some rich guy secret society?
Nobody seems to know, so I'm just gonna assume Epstein Island.
Speaking of Tyson, am I mistaken or has he lost a good bit of weight? Last time I saw him was more than a year ago at one of those college golf tournaments at the Blessings.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 11, 2024, 05:37 PMLittle men experience little man syndrome their whole life.
Haha. Hey buddy. It's all good. Believe it or not I'd buy you a beer sometime.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Apr 11, 2024, 06:29 PMNobody seems to know, so I'm just gonna assume Epstein Island.
Who do you think was there to pick up Ronnie Brewer Jr off the water slide?
Ugh
Quote from: aaron on Apr 11, 2024, 08:17 PMUgh
Nuttin' but Fun. Muss Buss. Cal Those Hogs.
Judas, our marketing guys are the shits.
https://x.com/treywallace_/status/1778593057664909532?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
They are really doing this right, good Lord.
Quote from: obijuana on Apr 11, 2024, 08:20 PMNuttin' but Fun. Muss Buss. Cal Those Hogs.
Judas, our marketing guys are the shits.
At least but in a lower case "l."
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 11, 2024, 04:38 PMFrom watching some of our conferences plus a lot of the SEC media days stuff, it seems like Bob and his questions are kind of a running joke around the league. He almost always gets the first question, even in league wide media events. It's probably kind of like these high schools working together to let the kid with disabilities score a TD at the end of a blowout.
That's exactly what it is
Quote from: BASS on Apr 11, 2024, 09:25 PMThat's exactly what it is
Unfortunately, he writes articles as well as anyone at the Dem-Gaz.
Hunter gets a star but I still think Tyson wanted cal to vet hunter and that would decide if he would take the job. Maybe also to see if hunter would ask the obvious question. Advise could be a phone call, but deface to face - there is more in play there.
While it does happen for head coaches to advise ADs, do you think Doug McMillion is asking a target exec for hiring advice?
Why would a head coach of a conference school give you a legit candidate who would make his job harder?
Muss on Rome had good things to say about Arkansas and hunter. Rome asked him about the buss video noting it was weird and all, muss took the high road and basically said hunter he talked after he had believed it was hunter teasing those saying he was leaving.
Muss and Rome are tight and Rome asked pointed and leading questions but he was very positive about Arkansas. Mentioned his mom never made it to a game here but she drove up from San Diego for the press conference. It did sound like Danyelle wanted out since their family meeting was quick when the SC job came up.
Hopefully, it is a win win for all parties.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 11, 2024, 10:57 PMHunter gets a star but I still think Tyson wanted cal to vet hunter and that would decide if he would take the job. Maybe also to see if hunter would ask the obvious question. Advise could be a phone call, but deface to face - there is more in play there.
While it does happen for head coaches to advise ADs, do you think Doug McMillion is asking a target exec for hiring advice?
Why would a head coach of a conference school give you a legit candidate who would make his job harder?
The old boy network still exists. Broyles and Royal recommended many coached for the SWC. Everybody trusted them because they knew what the hell they were talking about.
In the 1970s, east of the Rocky Mountains, there were very few coaches hired at what where then "big schools" without a recommendation from either Frank Broyles, Darrel Royal, Bear Bryant, or Woody Hayes. Look it up. A large number of connections, however minor, through those four guys.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 11, 2024, 10:57 PMHunter gets a star but I still think Tyson wanted cal to vet hunter and that would decide if he would take the job. Maybe also to see if hunter would ask the obvious question. Advise could be a phone call, but deface to face - there is more in play there.
While it does happen for head coaches to advise ADs, do you think Doug McMillion is asking a target exec for hiring advice?
Why would a head coach of a conference school give you a legit candidate who would make his job harder?
Muss on Rome had good things to say about Arkansas and hunter. Rome asked him about the buss video noting it was weird and all, muss took the high road and basically said hunter he talked after he had believed it was hunter teasing those saying he was leaving.
Muss and Rome are tight and Rome asked pointed and leading questions but he was very positive about Arkansas. Mentioned his mom never made it to a game here but she drove up from San Diego for the press conference. It did sound like Danyelle wanted out since their family meeting was quick when the SC job came up.
Hopefully, it is a win win for all parties.
So now he's been upgraded from "pool boy" to lower case "hunter". What does he need to do to get the "H" back?
RE: Coaches recommendations
Cal's formative coaching years he worked under Ted Owens (who is 94 and attended the hogs announcing Cal) and later Larry Brown at Kansas who no doubt is where he learned how to cheat like a pro. Danny Manning (and I'm sure some others of note) were brought in while Cal was an assoc assistant at Kansas. Anyway I think his time with Larry Brown is very note worthy because for much of the rest of his career Cal has conducted himself like Larry Brown. By that I mean he did what it took to win games. Yes I have no doubt he cheated his ass off for a good bit of it. I do think it speaks volumes when you have former players that mostly all fucking love you. That's what Cal brings. Muss has guys that love him but I don't know that it's at that level. Also like Larry Brown...Cal is this god father type that's known for offering opinions on prospective head coaches though his "tree" isn't impressive at all.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 11, 2024, 08:59 PMAt least but in a lower case "l."
It will live or die, like "throwing the A" either way
Quote from: Silence Of The Hams on Apr 12, 2024, 07:49 AMIt will live or die, like "throwing the A" either way
True
Funny, I only see the women teams, "throwing the A."
I kinda like "Cal Those Hogs"
It's clever
Gonna have to respectfully disagree.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Apr 12, 2024, 08:46 AMI kinda like "Cal Those Hogs"
It's clever
It's not the least bit clever. Cal and call don't even sound the same. Saying out loud also sounds stupid.
The whole thing is cheesy as hell.
Quote from: TC on Apr 12, 2024, 09:10 AMIt's not the least bit clever. Cal and call don't even sound the same. Saying out loud also sounds stupid.
The whole thing is cheesy as hell.
A good chunk of our fan base is already going to butcher his name (Cal-uh-PARR-ee instead of Cal-uh-PAIR-ee).
Now we're going to add in CALL-uh-PARR-ee and CALL-uh-PAIR-ee.
Pretty sure that good chunk of our fan base will never be in a situation where pronouncing his name incorrectly matters.
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1778770007402463493
Quote from: TC on Apr 12, 2024, 09:10 AMIt's not the least bit clever. Cal and call don't even sound the same. Saying out loud also sounds stupid.
The whole thing is cheesy as hell.
Let's add, "Integrity goes a LONG way," to flushable "clever" phrases the Athletic Department has come up with.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Apr 12, 2024, 09:31 AMLet's add, "Integrity goes a LONG way," to flushable "clever" phrases the Athletic Department has come up with.
NUTT'N but fun!
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 12, 2024, 09:16 AMA good chunk of our fan base is already going to butcher his name (Cal-uh-PARR-ee instead of Cal-uh-PAIR-ee).
Now we're going to add in CALL-uh-PARR-ee and CALL-uh-PAIR-ee.
I think we should let Randy Rainwater decide how to pronounce it for all of us.
For all the cheesy catchphrases, I actually liked the Muss Bus.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 12, 2024, 09:27 AMhttps://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1778770007402463493
This guy's been wrong before.
Quote from: piglosopher on Apr 12, 2024, 10:03 AMThis guy's been wrong before.
what would he be wrong about in this case?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 11, 2024, 10:57 PMWhile it does happen for head coaches to advise ADs, do you think Doug McMillion is asking a target exec for hiring advice?
Execs do it all the time. If they know somebody at the company the person is coming from, they're vetting them. Unoffical reference check, or due diligence - call it whatever you like. It happens.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 11, 2024, 08:31 PMhttps://x.com/treywallace_/status/1778593057664909532?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
crap...
they're going to make me like him aren't they?
It's happening. I can feel it.
Don't forget "Left lane, hammer down"
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on Apr 12, 2024, 10:22 AMExecs do it all the time. If they know somebody at the company the person is coming from, they're vetting them. Unoffical reference check, or due diligence - call it whatever you like. It happens.
I get the vetting (that is when you have a candidate in mind), I am talking about - looking for idea on who to hire when you don't really have a list of candidates after missing on your top 2 choices. :Hey, who would be a good candidate to run our north american stores?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 12, 2024, 10:43 AMI get the vetting (that is when you have a candidate in mind), I am talking about - looking for idea on who to hire when you don't really have a list of candidates after missing on your top 2 choices. :Hey, who would be a good candidate to run our north american stores?
You're assuming that everything they said at the press conference should be taken at face value.
I suspect they had more than an inkling that Cal was interested before the visit ever happened. We may well have reached out to Beard...too much smoke there not to believe it. I refuse to believe that we ever offered the job to Jerome Tang if talking to Calipari was even remotely on the table.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 12, 2024, 10:50 AMYou're assuming that everything they said at the press conference should be taken at face value.
I suspect they had more than an inkling that Cal was interested before the visit ever happened. We may well have reached out to Beard...too much smoke there not to believe it. I refuse to believe that we ever offered the job to Jerome Tang if talking to Calipari was even remotely on the table.
oh I agree. I think once Beard and Tang fell through, John who had already back channeled with Cal was ready to go but no body else was believing it was legit until hunter and cal met in Arizona and cal vetted hunter.
There's a reason Tyson wanted them to meet IN PERSON.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 11, 2024, 04:58 PMBYU's Mark Pope is a candidate according to Rothstein.
UK fans predictably thrilled
The pope and his 7 wives are headed to Lexington >:D
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/kentucky-chose-mark-pope-as-its-last-best-head-coaching-option-and-it-doesn-t-feel-great/ar-BB1lwiaB
"Y'all ever watch Shrek? I'm sure you have. Remember that scene after Shrek rescues Fiona from the tower she's locked in? She eventually finds out Shrek is actually an ogre instead of the Prince Charming she's looking for and immediately demands Shrek put her back in the tower so somebody cute can get her.
That's kind of the vibe I'm getting from Kentucky right now."
multiple media guys, both local and national, said tang was never offered. he didn't 'turn us down'.
My gut tells me that...
1) Weeks, if not months ago, Muss told Hunter that he was leaving the program whether there was an open job or not. It seems like he missed his mom and the wife wanted to explore other ventures that are not available in Arkansas.
Which, by the way, wasn't it interesting that Cal talked about how he grew up like us? Small town in PA. Working class family. He connected with the majority of the state. I don't think Muss ever said or did anything that demonstrated that he was an Arkansan. Just an interesting side point and not sure it really means a whole lot.
2) It has been widely known that Cal and Kentucky were not seeing eye to eye on facilities, money, etc. and the fan base was tiring of the first round bounces. It was also known that there were issues between the AD and Cal. That has all been verified in the "vetting hunter" and "administrations win championships" that came directly off Cal's lips.
Knowing those two things I think Cal was the target all along. Did Hunter reach out to Beard and Tang? I'm sure he did. It would have been dumb not to as Cal might have decided to stay or Kentucky may have had an "Oh Fuck" moment.
I think this was Cal's job from the very beginning.
Connected boosters have said that Hunter let them know as early as football season (about the time he was looking for contributions to possibly buy out Pittman) that there was a strong possibility that he would need to find a new basketball coach at the end of the year. I don't know if Muss told him, or if he was just hearing about Muss reaching out to all these programs with dead coaches walking and put two and two together.
I think early on Muss at least tried to embrace the culture and the university. Remember him showing up at the baseball regionals (supers?) wearing the size XXS Sunday cream baseball uniform? And flying to Dallas to watch Sam's best team kick the shit out of the sheep fuckers?
The trouble with guys like Muss is that they burn really hot for a while, then flame out. When he was engaged fully and motivated Muss was as good as we could hope to have in that role. Once that drive waned he became average at best. A disengaged Muss isn't a whole lot better than Stan Heath at the Xs and Os.
I also think that when things went south midseason last year and pretty much all year this one, instead of looking inward he started to get a sense that this program wasn't good enough to help him reach his goals. He told people that this year's team was good enough to get to the Final Four before the season started. When that didn't work I don't think he accepted his role in it not happening.
He will do really well for a while at USC. Like at Arkansas after 25 years of mediocrity, it won't be hard to show an immediate impact at a school with no real history. The marketing genius in him will turn it up, and he'll have Snoop, Will Ferrell and others sitting courtside. But eventually the long dick of reality will slap him upside the head again, and he'll be off to his next challenge...building a winner at Long Beach State or someplace similar.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 12, 2024, 11:48 AMConnected boosters have said that Hunter let them know as early as football season (about the time he was looking for contributions to possibly buy out Pittman) that there was a strong possibility that he would need to find a new basketball coach at the end of the year. I don't know if Muss told him, or if he was just hearing about Muss reaching out to all these programs with dead coaches walking and put two and two together.
I think early on Muss at least tried to embrace the culture and the university. Remember him showing up at the baseball regionals (supers?) wearing the size XXS Sunday cream baseball uniform? And flying to Dallas to watch Sam's best team kick the shit out of the sheep fuckers?
The trouble with guys like Muss is that they burn really hot for a while, then flame out. When he was engaged fully and motivated Muss was as good as we could hope to have in that role. Once that drive waned he became average at best. A disengaged Muss isn't a whole lot better than Stan Heath at the Xs and Os.
I also think that when things went south midseason last year and pretty much all year this one, instead of looking inward he started to get a sense that this program wasn't good enough to help him reach his goals. He told people that this year's team was good enough to get to the Final Four before the season started. When that didn't work I don't think he accepted his role in it not happening.
He will do really well for a while at USC. Like at Arkansas after 25 years of mediocrity, it won't be hard to show an immediate impact at a school with no real history. The marketing genius in him will turn it up, and he'll have Snoop, Will Ferrell and others sitting courtside. But eventually the long dick of reality will slap him upside the head again, and he'll be off to his next challenge...building a winner at Long Beach State or someplace similar.
Fantastic write up. Hard to argue against it really.
Muss was an assistant with the Memphis Grizzlies several years back.
When Arkansas hired him, I asked an insider with the Grizzlies about Muss.
"He has a 3-year shelf life before he and everyone else is ready for him to move on."
csb.
Only thing I'll argue is no celebrities are going to sit courtside at any USC basketball games.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 12, 2024, 11:48 AMConnected boosters have said that Hunter let them know as early as football season (about the time he was looking for contributions to possibly buy out Pittman) that there was a strong possibility that he would need to find a new basketball coach at the end of the year. I don't know if Muss told him, or if he was just hearing about Muss reaching out to all these programs with dead coaches walking and put two and two together.
I think early on Muss at least tried to embrace the culture and the university. Remember him showing up at the baseball regionals (supers?) wearing the size XXS Sunday cream baseball uniform? And flying to Dallas to watch Sam's best team kick the shit out of the sheep fuckers?
The trouble with guys like Muss is that they burn really hot for a while, then flame out. When he was engaged fully and motivated Muss was as good as we could hope to have in that role. Once that drive waned he became average at best. A disengaged Muss isn't a whole lot better than Stan Heath at the Xs and Os.
I also think that when things went south midseason last year and pretty much all year this one, instead of looking inward he started to get a sense that this program wasn't good enough to help him reach his goals. He told people that this year's team was good enough to get to the Final Four before the season started. When that didn't work I don't think he accepted his role in it not happening.
He will do really well for a while at USC. Like at Arkansas after 25 years of mediocrity, it won't be hard to show an immediate impact at a school with no real history. The marketing genius in him will turn it up, and he'll have Snoop, Will Ferrell and others sitting courtside. But eventually the long dick of reality will slap him upside the head again, and he'll be off to his next challenge...building a winner at Long Beach State or someplace similar.
Good post. Wally Hall & Bob Holt wept.
Getting to the second weekend would be a basketball success at USC. Muss may do that one or two times, but I think that's as far as it goes.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 12, 2024, 12:16 PMGood post. Wally Hall & Bob Holt wept.
:maundoed: I almost made a Wally comparison but thought it would be too mean.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 12, 2024, 12:10 PMOnly thing I'll argue is no celebrities are going to sit courtside at any USC basketball games.
Not without Bronnie.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 12, 2024, 11:04 AMmultiple media guys, both local and national, said tang was never offered. he didn't 'turn us down'.
This.
Tang isn't worth the 6 million buyout + new contract.
You don't get turned down by Tang and then hire Calipari. That's the opposite of how coaching searches go.
Kentucky just experienced this. They swung for big names, got turned down, and hired a midmajor.
Be good to get P.Bev barking for us again and maybe back in BWA for some games.
https://twitter.com/PatBevPod/status/1778845539917828341
Tang would fulfill the CBB Rooney rule if there is one.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 12, 2024, 02:33 PMBe good to get P.Bev barking for us again and maybe back in BWA for some games.
https://twitter.com/PatBevPod/status/1778845539917828341
why did he and UA have a falling out, as he said?
What's he talking about having a falling out?
Yeah, need the story. First time I've heard about there being beef with Patrick.
He had an academic scandal where other students were doing his work and he got caught.
He immediately went overseas for a few years before he climbed his way back to the NBA.
And he's made a heckuva name for himself.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 12, 2024, 02:55 PMHe had an academic scandal where other students were doing his work and he got caught.
He immediately went overseas for a few years before he climbed his way back to the NBA.
And he's made a heckuva name for himself.
One of the few bright spots during that best forgotten era of Razorback basketball. I thought with his tenacity, he would make it.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 12, 2024, 02:33 PMBe good to get P.Bev barking for us again and maybe back in BWA for some games.
https://twitter.com/PatBevPod/status/1778845539917828341
Cal should bring him back, bring back all the former UA pro players. Recruits and portal kids would eat that up.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 12, 2024, 02:55 PMHe had an academic scandal where other students were doing his work and he got caught.
He immediately went overseas for a few years before he climbed his way back to the NBA.
And he's made a heckuva name for himself.
Yes I don't think he means anything recent. I want to say last summer he was dapping up Muss and got some photo ops out of it.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Apr 12, 2024, 04:26 PMCal should bring him back, bring back all the former UA pro players. Recruits and portal kids would eat that up.
He will.
What I'm wondering is if he can get a Derrick Rose, a John Wall, a Boogie Cousins, etc to show up here and there. Ain't too far for SGA to hop over either.
Get SGA to BWA in Hogs gear and I'll be able to die happy.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 12, 2024, 02:33 PMBe good to get P.Bev barking for us again and maybe back in BWA for some games.
https://twitter.com/PatBevPod/status/1778845539917828341
There's a lot of stuff from the Bucks lately about he and Portis being "Hawgs", etc.
SGA?
Probably a good thing Bobby doesn't coach basketball
https://x.com/coachcalark/status/1779286396299055443?s=46&t=DTGVKlgNTKh5Nq29PdZsdg
Quote from: animal on Apr 11, 2024, 06:37 AMRonald Coleman (heavy ties to Chicago area)
So you are saying he can prolly bring in some shooters?
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Apr 14, 2024, 09:53 AMSo you are saying he can prolly bring in some shooters?
Bama lock
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Apr 14, 2024, 09:53 AMSo you are saying he can prolly bring in some shooters?
but not real accurate unless you can score by injuring the basket rather than hitting shots dead center
Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Apr 14, 2024, 09:53 AMSo you are saying he can prolly bring in some shooters?
I think it's important to have guys that aren't afraid to pull the trigger. Nate Oats agrees.
Quote from: egregious on Apr 14, 2024, 10:04 AMbut not real accurate unless you can score by injuring the basket rather than hitting shots dead center
And shoots sideways
Videos all over Twitter/x of a packed-out Rupp to welcome Mark Pope. Impressive. Congratulations you buttfuckers on poaching a coach that nobody else was even considering.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 14, 2024, 03:56 PMVideos all over Twitter/x of a packed-out Rupp to welcome Mark Pope. Impressive. Congratulations you buttfuckers on poaching a coach that nobody else was even considering.
Have to admit it is pretty damned impressive when you can pack the arena for a press conference.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 14, 2024, 04:32 PMHave to admit it is pretty damned impressive when you can pack the arena for a press conference.
For your 6th or 7th choice and a guy any other SEC team would've been disappointed with.
Hey, seat filler is an easy gig when you can get it
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 14, 2024, 04:32 PMHave to admit it is pretty damned impressive when you can pack the arena for a press conference.
If hog fans had been given 3 or 4 days notice for a weekend event we would have filled BWA too.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 14, 2024, 07:26 PMIf hog fans had been given 3 or 4 days notice for a weekend event we would have filled BWA too.
Possibly, but I really don't think so.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 14, 2024, 07:28 PMPossibly, but I really don't think so.
Agree on that.
Kentucky fans circled the wagons and supported their hire. Not sure we would have came close to doing the same but he was one of their own so that makes a difference. Ask yourself our reaction to Darrell Walker being hired? Yeah Pope is more accomplished as a college coach but Walker could well have been the backup plan to the backup plan.
50/50 chance Pope does better there than Calipari during his tenure here.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 14, 2024, 08:02 PM50/50 chance Pope does better there than Calipari during his tenure here.
Hot take. You could be right or you could be wrong.
Pope hasn't won an NCAA game yet and thus far doesn't look like he can get a single player or recruit to stay.
He may not do better than Pel did.
The Forgettables
McPherson says Iso Joe may be on staff.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 16, 2024, 09:01 AMMcPherson says Iso Joe may be on staff.
Cal is known for his dribble drive motion offense. So maybe it makes sense that Joe Johnson would be asked to be on the staff in some capacity. That might mean Ronnie Brewer is not going to be retained.
did johnson graduate? have to have a degree to be a bench coach.
i read he's plugged into the aau scene so i bet that's where cal knows him from.
Quote from: Borenutz on Apr 14, 2024, 08:29 PMHot take. You could be right or you could be wrong.
He's really putting himself out there on a limb isn't he?
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 16, 2024, 12:43 PMdid johnson graduate? have to have a degree to be a bench coach.
Is that true?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 16, 2024, 03:03 PMIs that true?
yes, the university requires at least a bachelor's degree to be an assistant coach. same for most all p5 programs.
Joe was good at scoring points but is legit mentally retarded.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 16, 2024, 12:43 PMdid johnson graduate? have to have a degree to be a bench coach.
i read he's plugged into the aau scene so i bet that's where cal knows him from.
I want to say he walked a few years ago but that might have been Scotty Thurman or somebody I don't remember now
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 12, 2024, 11:48 AMConnected boosters have said that Hunter let them know as early as football season (about the time he was looking for contributions to possibly buy out Pittman) that there was a strong possibility that he would need to find a new basketball coach at the end of the year. I don't know if Muss told him, or if he was just hearing about Muss reaching out to all these programs with dead coaches walking and put two and two together.
I think early on Muss at least tried to embrace the culture and the university. Remember him showing up at the baseball regionals (supers?) wearing the size XXS Sunday cream baseball uniform? And flying to Dallas to watch Sam's best team kick the shit out of the sheep fuckers?
The trouble with guys like Muss is that they burn really hot for a while, then flame out. When he was engaged fully and motivated Muss was as good as we could hope to have in that role. Once that drive waned he became average at best. A disengaged Muss isn't a whole lot better than Stan Heath at the Xs and Os.
I also think that when things went south midseason last year and pretty much all year this one, instead of looking inward he started to get a sense that this program wasn't good enough to help him reach his goals. He told people that this year's team was good enough to get to the Final Four before the season started. When that didn't work I don't think he accepted his role in it not happening.
He will do really well for a while at USC. Like at Arkansas after 25 years of mediocrity, it won't be hard to show an immediate impact at a school with no real history. The marketing genius in him will turn it up, and he'll have Snoop, Will Ferrell and others sitting courtside. But eventually the long dick of reality will slap him upside the head again, and he'll be off to his next challenge...building a winner at Long Beach State or someplace similar.
Nice summary.
I said it before that he will be at USC for four or five years, then head for his retirement job at his Alma mater. He's always been upfront that someday he'd go back there.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 16, 2024, 04:03 PMJoe was good at scoring points but is legit mentally retarded.
Racist.
Quote from: TC on Apr 16, 2024, 07:05 PMJust like a democrat. Everythings racist.
Bigot.
Joe has a new AAU program called "Iso Joe" based out of Little Rock.
Their teams played in the same tourney my 8th grader played at in Ft Worth this weekend
Man, Kentucky fan seems pissed.
At least they can hang some banners from this year. :D
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