A new day. A new season. A new program.
Proceed...
2nd in.
Final Four '25!
Early targets from the portal
Confirmed contacted
Dre Davis (Seton Hall) 6-5/230, coached by Shaheen Holloway who was previously at St. Peters (who beat Kentucky in NCAAT)
Believed they'll be contact...
AJ Storr (Wisconsin) Was contacted by Kentucky a few days ago...
Billy Richmond (Memphis kid) high schooler, committed to Kentucky 97.46 Grade on ON3.com
Aaron Bradshaw (2023 signee to Kentucky) hit the portal when Cal left. High grade center 7-1 tall
Don't forget Karter "Chicken Guy" Knox
I would add Jayden Quaintance to the "to be contacted" list. Probably Cal's first call. He's only 16 so he'd have to play 2 years here before being eligible for the draft.
I'm not trying to get overly excited and set my expectations too high. We have NO team, maybe a couple of walk-ons. Cal will bring in high quality guys, we'll be competitive but I really think next year will be the start of our comeback. I could be wrong and maybe he brings in a bunch of great portal guys and 5* freshmen. That would be awesome, but I'd rather set my expectations low and be pleasantly surprised than set them high (like this year) and be disappointed.
Let's fuck the rest of the SEC instead of our teammates this time
Guess this is the more appropriate spot :popcorn:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778562208860868999?t=jnhOtdXUmfqmk5RzOHaBSg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1778562208860868999?t=jnhOtdXUmfqmk5RzOHaBSg&s=19)
Early targets:
Dre Davis 6-6 220lb SF Sr (Louisville -> Seaton Hall)
https://247sports.com/player/dre-davis-46054928/
Keyshawn Hall 6-7 255lb PF So (UNLV -> George Mason)
https://247sports.com/player/keyshawn-hall-46125439/
Karter Knox 6-5 225 SF HS (Overtime Elite, former UK commit)
https://247sports.com/player/karter-knox-46116530/
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Apr 11, 2024, 07:17 PMEarly targets:
Dre Davis 6-6 220lb SF Sr (Louisville -> Seaton Hall)
https://247sports.com/player/dre-davis-46054928/
Keyshawn Hall 6-7 255lb PF So (UNLV -> George Mason)
https://247sports.com/player/keyshawn-hall-46125439/
Karter Knox 6-5 225 SF HS (Overtime Elite, former UK commit)
https://247sports.com/player/karter-knox-46116530/
Sound like some men's
Add Liam McNeely #15 recruit in '24 class
https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1778604898193490320?t=DhK2FIjg9qsjjWm6MT4Cxg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1778604898193490320?t=DhK2FIjg9qsjjWm6MT4Cxg&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 11, 2024, 09:16 PMhttps://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1778604898193490320?t=DhK2FIjg9qsjjWm6MT4Cxg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/J21SportsFan/status/1778604898193490320?t=DhK2FIjg9qsjjWm6MT4Cxg&s=19)
And Biscuits and Gravy is really just wet flour on top of dry flour.
Thought it was interesting it came from that account.
Woo Pig
https://x.com/247chrishoops/status/1778618894388699178?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: DrMongoose on Apr 12, 2024, 04:37 PMWoo Pig
https://x.com/247chrishoops/status/1778618894388699178?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
It seems we're not the only ones expecting big things at Arkansas. :woopig: :popcorn:
https://x.com/will_whitson2/status/1778927210952364301
just no
Already working the big rooms...
https://twitter.com/CoachCalArk/status/1779289275680297444
supposedly has told the kentucky pay board guys he's following cal
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1779286999335113207?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1779286999335113207%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Good. Sounds like Cal told him "don't even think about it."
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1779580418930487444
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 14, 2024, 01:55 PMGood. Sounds like Cal told him "don't even think about it."
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1779580418930487444
I bet his playing days are over.
Someone will pick him up.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 14, 2024, 02:19 PMSomeone will pick him up.
At Discovery Night Club.
I gather ASU and LR passed on him. Hopefully he finds a home.
He committed to OK St out of HS. Bet he goes to GCU though.
Mark is transferring to texass.
I think we've confirmed the root of the team chemistry and character issues.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 14, 2024, 06:17 PMMark is transferring to texass.
I think we've confirmed the root of the team chemistry and character issues.
Texas currently prides itself on diversity when it comes to character issues. Mark should fit in well there.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 14, 2024, 03:12 PMHe committed to OK St out of HS. Bet he goes to GCU though.
As hectic as GCU plays that would be interesting
Gcu is a Christian University, that would be interesting.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 14, 2024, 09:08 PMGcu is a Christian University, that would be interesting.
Devo constantly posts scripture on his instagram.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 15, 2024, 07:10 AMDevo constantly posts scripture on his instagram.
And he was baptized earlier this year.
Trying to Tebow the gay out of yourself is a known phenomenon.
Quote from: CardHog on Apr 15, 2024, 07:56 AMAnd he was baptized earlier this year.
The most important thing to do in his career.
Ky players-- signed and unsigned-- are bailing out in a hurry. I'm actually a little surprised there haven't been any that have been announced as transferring to Arkansas.
Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 15, 2024, 09:44 AMKy players-- signed and unsigned-- are bailing out in a hurry. I'm actually a little surprised there haven't been any that have been announced as transferring to Arkansas.
I assume a lot of these guys know each other. Have to figure they're communicating and making sure if one comes here, the others will too before pulling the trigger.
I bet we get some block commitments, not one at a time.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 15, 2024, 09:49 AMI assume a lot of these guys know each other. Have to figure they're communicating and making sure if one comes here, the others will too before pulling the trigger.
I bet we get some block commitments, not one at a time.
I tried looking it up(very confusing) and I think they can't sign until tomorrow.
Quote from: Lurk on Apr 15, 2024, 10:19 AMI tried looking it up(very confusing) and I think they can't sign until tomorrow.
Wondered about that.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 15, 2024, 09:49 AMI assume a lot of these guys know each other. Have to figure they're communicating and making sure if one comes here, the others will too before pulling the trigger.
I bet we get some block commitments, not one at a time.
I remember after Kentucky had that great team of 2014-15, Cal held a press conference for players who were going to enter the draft to all stand up or whatever. All 7 of them did. I could see him orchestrating something big like that to get things rolling.
OM is putting together a really good portal class. Shitbirds
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5zF5w9v4JM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
so it begins
Big puss.
We need difference makers.
Reddit poster said that makes us the tallest team on average now
Looks like the type of kid that usually whips our ass. Welcome aboard.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 15, 2024, 05:45 PMBig puss.
We need difference makers.
He's got a huge upside.
I'd love to get these guys from the portal
Wagner
Griffen
Aidoo
D Mitchell
Optimism...push it way down. Bury it.
I guarantee Kentucky wanted him back bad.
I love it. He's not played his best ball yet.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 15, 2024, 05:55 PMHe's got a huge upside.
I'd love to get these guys from the portal
Wagner
Griffen
Aidoo
D Mitchell
Vanover had huge upside.
Kid is a child. If we get those other kids maybe he looks like something.
Right now he's a big meh.
Quaintance is who we need.
Quaintance is athletic enough to play but a bit raw. He'd be a good pick-up though. As would Knox and Fland.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 15, 2024, 06:06 PMVanover had huge upside.
Kid is a child. If we get those other kids maybe he looks like something.
Right now he's a big meh.
Quaintance is who we need.
Vanover didn't ever have upside.
This kid is a shit ton more athletic than Vanover.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Apr 15, 2024, 06:46 PMVanover didn't ever have upside.
This kid is a shit ton more athletic than Vanover.
Vanover looked like a prison camp survivor and played like one. The one video I just watched Z hit more threes in one half than I saw Vanover hit while at Arkansas. If your specialty is 3 point shooting, you should probably hit one every now and then. Pinion, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmu0LHJtd04
Not too bad
didn't enroll until last october, got eligible at the end of january.
no one is saying he's a future all star, but you can see the athleticism for his size and with a full off season in the weight room, i don't think folks will be comparing him to connor vannover by season's end.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Apr 15, 2024, 06:46 PMVanover didn't ever have upside.
This kid is a shit ton more athletic than Vanover.
I think this kid only got eligible sometime during conference play.
Played two years professionally overseas before joining Kentucky. Will turn 21 in August. Might be one of those grown-ass mens we've been looking for by then. I'm drinking the cool-aid and it tastes good.
His statement had UK fans PISSED. He graciously thanked them and was classy, but the third paragraph was all about how he came to win championships and play in the NBA and Cal was the guy that does that.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 15, 2024, 10:26 PMHis statement had UK fans PISSED. He graciously thanked them and was classy, but the third paragraph was all about how he came to win championships and play in the NBA and Cal was the guy that does that.
:maundoed: :maundoed: Holy Fuck that's hilarious.
They were also all over his instagram saying stuff like: We spent all that money and time getting you eligible and you just going to move on like it never happened? God they are pathetic and I'm all here for the copium. They are about to realize they fucked the chicken on this one and the chicken man is going to make them pay.
Well the last Croatian turned out OK for us. Hopefully this one will be even better
oumar ballo, espn's top portal player, cancels his visit to louisville and will visit arkansas instead.
Mens
https://x.com/ssn_arkansas/status/1780275031202726113?s=46
There we go
Hell yes
that guy is the true 5 some people have been calling for. no game outside the paint.
Trying to hold back my excitement till htl can weigh in on how this guy will never commit and is not SEC caliber even if he did.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 16, 2024, 12:55 PMTrying to hold back my excitement till htl can weigh in on how this guy will never commit and is not SEC caliber even if he did.
Don't worry, if Arkansas portals in a great team and has success, that'll instigate immediate changes to the portal rules.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 16, 2024, 12:55 PMTrying to hold back my excitement till htl can weigh in on how this guy will never commit and is not SEC caliber even if he did.
What?
False alarm. Ballo committed to Indiana.
Cal's at the Overtime Elite combine right now. This could still be a big f'n week, gentlemen.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 16, 2024, 01:25 PMFalse alarm. Ballo committed to Indiana.
We didn't want him anyway.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 16, 2024, 01:25 PMFalse alarm. Ballo committed to Indiana.
We'll get him in the next portal. There's always another portal.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 16, 2024, 01:26 PMCal's at the Overtime Elite combine right now. This could still be a big f'n week, gentlemen.
https://x.com/ssn_arkansas/status/1780320220227289246?s=46
Quote from: BEvERage on Apr 16, 2024, 02:42 PMhttps://x.com/ssn_arkansas/status/1780320220227289246?s=46
Can someone translate?
I can't believe Google Translate doesn't have Jive to English translation.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1780323942449684559?t=HGYcl5kl-Jk3Fy4wQqsNoA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1780323942449684559?t=HGYcl5kl-Jk3Fy4wQqsNoA&s=19)
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 16, 2024, 03:09 PMCan someone translate?
I can't believe Google Translate doesn't have Jive to English translation.
Cal is at the Overtime Elite combine in his Arkansas gear aiming to bring the players he had committed to Kentucky back to the Natural State. Several suitcases of cash is implied.
Thank Gawd, it's about time.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Apr 16, 2024, 02:09 PMWe didn't want him anyway.
In THIS economy?
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1780311007300125157
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 16, 2024, 03:31 PMCal is at the Overtime Elite combine in his Arkansas gear aiming to bring the players he had committed to Kentucky back to the Natural State. Several suitcases of cash is implied.
Specifically, he's targeting high school teamates C Somto Cyril and SF Karter Knox. He recruited both to UK and is looking to bring them to the Hill.
Here's how I thought it worked: The chicken man gives $6 million for Cal to build his roster with. Cal spends $1 million on Big Z, leaving Cal $5 million to play with.
Here's how I was told it worked: The chicken man puts $6 million in the NIL pot. Big Z's agent negotiates the best deal he can with whoever controls the NIL pot, let's say $2 million in this case, leaving Cal only $4 million to play with.
Anybody know how it really works?
Foreign athletes are here on a F1 student visa that prohibits off campus work. They are thus not able to participate in any active NIL work. They could earn passive NIL income through an EA sports type of deal.
Unless he has one helluva passive deal (likely cheating). Big Z isn't getting NIL money.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 16, 2024, 07:44 PMForeign athletes are here on a F1 student visa that prohibits off campus work. They are thus not able to participate in any active NIL work. They could earn passive NIL income through an EA sports type of deal.
Unless he has one helluva passive deal (likely cheating). Big Z isn't getting NIL money.
And that other guy, Ballmore or whatever his name is, is not eligible for NIL either (theoretically).
they can play outside of the us and get as much as they can while they're there.
tshiebwe got at least half a mil for the week kentucky was in the bahamas a couple of seasons ago. cal got them in that tourney specifically so that could happen.
Now Zac Edey is Canadian. I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't get some kind of NIL deal. Unofficially of course.
Quote from: Spiderham on Apr 16, 2024, 08:25 PMNow Zac Edey is Canadian. I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't get some kind of NIL deal. Unofficially of course.
Or a giant check was waiting for him after this season was over.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 16, 2024, 08:24 PMthey can play outside of the us and get as much as they can while they're there.
tshiebwe got at least half a mil for the week kentucky was in the bahamas a couple of seasons ago. cal got them in that tourney specifically so that could happen.
We did something similar for Fall in the Bahamas.
Not real sure but I think we mighta got fucked on that deal.
That's good info on the foreign players.
But what about the U.S. players? Can Cal direct how much of the chicken man's $6 million goes to whom or is he at the mercy of the players' agents and the gatekeepers of the NIL fund?
Seems like you need a good salary cap guru to have a decent college team these days. I'm interested in who has the final say-so on how the chicken man's money gets divvied up.
Cal has the advantage of his reputation for preparing guys for the NBA. That has tangible long term financial benefit.
It's not all about NIL, but we should be able to compete.
I'm gonna guess Cal would be in charge of making those decisions. He may tell Tyson that Ballo isn't worth $1.2MM of the budget if he can get two other guys he really wants for $600K each. Hard to see the money folks, especially Tyson, choosing his players for him.
Ballo isn't worth $1.2M.
https://twitter.com/PaulBiancardi/status/1780707613908619691?t=EtCU515ZhU-_N50GXKM2hg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/PaulBiancardi/status/1780707613908619691?t=EtCU515ZhU-_N50GXKM2hg&s=19)
https://x.com/AdamFord92/status/1780678219554828612
We are after some whites. So that's good. Maybe these guys can run, shoot, and defend.
Quote from: animal on Apr 17, 2024, 04:48 PMhttps://x.com/AdamFord92/status/1780678219554828612
We are after some whites. So that's good. Maybe these guys can run, shoot, and defend.
And should help our apr woes
:sarcasm:
Interesting interview with Lawson Blake who has unique perspective from inside the program the past couple of years.
i really like mahaney...his frosh year at St mary's was much more successful, but this kid can play
KY fans were hoping he would stay.
https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781002623853772803?t=TPUmLafzQbIe9CmAM0AqIQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781002623853772803?t=TPUmLafzQbIe9CmAM0AqIQ&s=19)
Read these comments
https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781003811034702097?t=lCVKMj-JAIAwheSYtOAD7A&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781003811034702097?t=lCVKMj-JAIAwheSYtOAD7A&s=19)
Was watching Aaron Torres' podcast youtube thinger and he mentioned that Antigua is being pursued by several top schools. He's got heavy east coast ties and is considered a big time assistant for recruiting. Not a lock to go to Arkansas.
In the same video he said Louisville is actually more of a threat to take Cal's players than Pope is at Kentucky.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 18, 2024, 12:24 PMKY fans were hoping he would stay.
https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781002623853772803?t=TPUmLafzQbIe9CmAM0AqIQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781002623853772803?t=TPUmLafzQbIe9CmAM0AqIQ&s=19)
Read these comments
https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781003811034702097?t=lCVKMj-JAIAwheSYtOAD7A&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ZyavierR/status/1781003811034702097?t=lCVKMj-JAIAwheSYtOAD7A&s=19)
Can you summarize for those that lack the access?
Antigua was Cal's lead recruiter. Rumor was he didn't want to leave KY and their fans were clamoring for him to stay.
KY media now reporting he isn't staying at KY. No mention if he is going to AR.
All the comments from KY are dire. They don't think they have an assistant on staff that can recruit.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 18, 2024, 01:17 PMAntigua was Cal's lead recruiter. Rumor was he didn't want to leave KY and their fans were clamoring for him to stay.
KY media now reporting he isn't staying at KY. No mention if he is going to AR.
All the comments from KY are dire. They don't think they have an assistant on staff that can recruit.
fuck them. asshats
We have our first assistant
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1781105085231030738?s=61&t=jBF4ycjE1_hZ59GSXn-HZg
Kenny Payne is in :><:
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Apr 18, 2024, 07:06 PMWe have our first assistant
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1781105085231030738?s=61&t=jBF4ycjE1_hZ59GSXn-HZg
And what do y'all think about him? I know the name, but don't really know that much about him.
Supposed to be a great recruiter and big man guru. Sucked as a HC
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Apr 18, 2024, 07:09 PMSupposed to be a great recruiter and big man guru. Sucked as a HC
Great assistant but shitty head coach, where have I heard that before? ???
https://247sports.com/Coach/Kenny-Payne-194/AllTimeRecruits/
Just rewatched this. Imagine someone telling you after this game that Purdue is gonna be national runner up, Hogs will have a losing record and miss the tourney, Muss will leave and take the USC job after Enfield bolts for....SMU. Oh, and we're gonna hire Calipari as our next coach. What a freaking whirlwind in 6 months.
https://twitter.com/CB1_TheFiend/status/1781371334015975453
His dad chimed in pretty quickly to say "not true." I don't know if that's the 3 schools part, the Louisville visit, or the NIL being the main factor.
I know I'm just getting antsy. Figured more would have happened to get the ball rolling by now. Quaintance and Knox would be a helluva start.
Looked at his dad's page. Hmmm...
https://twitter.com/UptQ4life/status/1771677193862545571
Well we are arkansas so the wheels could go at any time
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 19, 2024, 01:14 PMLooked at his dad's page. Hmmm...
https://twitter.com/UptQ4life/status/1771677193862545571
Dad's name is Ham? We are a lock.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 19, 2024, 01:14 PMLooked at his dad's page. Hmmm...
https://twitter.com/UptQ4life/status/1771677193862545571
Would the "wheels fall off" quote apply to Cal leaving Kentucky? Who knows. Probably whoever shows him the most cash.
Yeah I thought we would have 3 or 4 by now. I think maybe the chips will begin to fall soon enough. There are too many rosters with nobody on them to a point im sure there is a bidding war going on.
Now that Payne is on deck maybe things get rolling.
Anybody think the announced increase to our NIL might be a reason we aren't hearing anything yet? Sure it's going to help us long-term, but there could be a double edge to it. Maybe Cal would already have pulled more kids on his own, but they know we recently got a big bag and want to hold off till they find out how much of it they can get.
This is pretty good
https://twitter.com/filesdaddy/status/1781363361743065515
I saw a post from 3 days ago that Makhai Mitchell declared for the NBA draft.
Did we already know this? We knew he wasn't coming back.
Does the NBA know? Do they care?
Karter Knox is visiting tomorrow. We are in the running for Johnell Davis as well.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 21, 2024, 08:51 PMKarter Knox is visiting tomorrow. We are in the running for Johnell Davis as well.
Cool
Maybe we will start landing some feelers.
I'm telling myself we are looking for the right combination of pieces trying to feel out who's going to work best plus we're probably waiting on some NBA draft evals. They'll be some that stay in and others that remove their name. That will happen in the next month. No sense in getting a commit for a guy that will be in the G next season.
Cal said it will be a slow process.
Ok, so I'm getting impatient. Shouldn't they have wrapped up NIL contracts by now?
Media peeps are saying cal doesn't do this stuff quickly and it could be June before we have a roster filled out.
https://x.com/overtimeelite/status/1782545861202805191?s=46
Woo f'n Pig, gentlemen :><:
Kid can play the 2 or 3. Can score and physical defender too.
Quote from: BEvERage on Apr 22, 2024, 06:06 PMhttps://x.com/overtimeelite/status/1782545861202805191?s=46
Now we're talking!
Some highlights
https://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1782547234321510851?t=_WFCIGZM-aWJsu6hibhFYA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1782547234321510851?t=_WFCIGZM-aWJsu6hibhFYA&s=19)
How is Knox with knee management?
Quote from: BEvERage on Apr 22, 2024, 06:34 PMHow is Knox with knee management?
I was wondering the same thing.
I think Bobby, his first time around, said something like "if you can just get a recruit to visit Fayetteville, they'll see what we have and they'll come play for you. The problem is convincing them to schedule a visit."
I think we have our guy that can do the convincing on the basketball side.
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1782570834172813355
Took 9 years, but building the damn practice facility finally paid off!
http://nwa.pressreader.com/article/7436894803666406
From Richard Davenport in today's ADG.
Quaintance has visited Louisville and says he plans to visit Memphis and Arkansas, although no dates have been set.
Boogie Fland says he has talked with Calipari and that he is much wanted in Fayetteville. When asked if he plans to visit. He says he doesn't know yet, he has to talk with his people first.
Quote from: Corn Pop on Apr 23, 2024, 08:59 AMhttp://nwa.pressreader.com/article/7436894803666406
From Richard Davenport in today's ADG.
Quaintance has visited Louisville and says he plans to visit Memphis and Arkansas, although no dates have been set.
Boogie Fland says he has talked with Calipari and that he is much wanted in Fayetteville. When asked if he plans to visit. He says he doesn't know yet, he has to talk with his people first.
"his people?"
Lots of people got their hands out I'm sure. It's not what HE Wants.
Quote from: Guardrail on Apr 23, 2024, 09:39 AM"his people?"
Lots of people got their hands out I'm sure. It's not what HE Wants.
They all have "people" who must be consulted now.
Boogie Fland sounds like a defensive back.
He's visiting this week.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 23, 2024, 12:08 PMBoogie Fland sounds like a defensive back.
To me he sounds like a center fielder, but I think I'm thinking of Mookie. Wasn't more there more than one Mookie? I remember the one for the Mets.
Edit:
Mookie Wilson, the Mets.
Mookie Betts, I think an Oklahoma PG?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 23, 2024, 12:51 PMTo me he sounds like a center fielder, but I think I'm thinking of Mookie. Wasn't more there more than one Mookie? I remember the one for the Mets.
Mookie Blaylock. Played basketball for the Sooners and Hawks in the NBA
Quote from: abnormal hog on Apr 23, 2024, 12:54 PMMookie Blaylock. Played basketball for the Sooners and Hawks in the NBA
Right. Mookie Betts was another NL baseball player. Getting all my Mookies confused.
MOOKIE.jpg
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 23, 2024, 12:58 PMRight. Mookie Betts was another NL baseball player. Getting all my Mookies confused.
While he is with the Dodgers now, I always think of him as a Red Sox guy.
Quote from: abnormal hog on Apr 23, 2024, 12:54 PMMookie Blaylock. Played basketball for the Sooners and Hawks in the NBA
Mookie Blaylock was also the original name of Pearl Jam.
according to the head 247 guy, quaintance eliminates arkansas.
jonas aidoo, formerly of tennessee, is supposed to visit this week.
billy richmond, top 25 player, is visiting tomorrow.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 23, 2024, 01:05 PMWhile he is with the Dodgers now, I always think of him as a Red Sox guy.
100%
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 23, 2024, 02:19 PMaccording to the head 247 guy, quaintance eliminates arkansas.
jonas aidoo, formerly of tennessee, is supposed to visit this week.
billy richmond, top 25 player, is visiting tomorrow.
Well that stinks. From what I read when Calipari was initially hired, Quaintance sounded like the guy most likely to follow him.
Same here. Maybe he's thinking he keeps the scholarships/NIL for bigs for immediately contributing transfers.
I just can't see Quaintance taking a visit to Memphis but not here.
Quote from: vegashog on Apr 23, 2024, 02:19 PMaccording to the head 247 guy, quaintance eliminates arkansas.
jonas aidoo, formerly of tennessee, is supposed to visit this week.
billy richmond, top 25 player, is visiting tomorrow.
Are you sure this "billy richmond" is a top 25 player? That sounds like a way too normal name, I assume his middle name is Quivernious or something.
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Boogie Fland is absolutely a short stop from the 70s sporting a fro hawk with a life time batting average of .237 but he's magic on defensive end.
Boogie Cousins worked out pretty well for Cal.
supposedly quaintance has made it all about the highest bidder, and there's only so much arkansas was going to offer.
maybe having your media guys tweet all these huge nil numbers isn't such a great idea.
UMemphis recently announced a 5 yr/25million agreement/donation for NIL from FdEx. I hate what the college game has become but understand chasing the dollar.
I will say, if you're not going to be a 1 or 2 and done, maximize NIL deals for yourself. If you are a 1 or 2 and done, Cal would be a great way to go.
Other Mookie in the mix.
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Quote from: Hognrock on Apr 23, 2024, 05:34 PMUMemphis recently announced a 5 yr/25million agreement/donation for NIL from FdEx. I hate what the college game has become but understand chasing the dollar.
I will say, if you're not going to be a 1 or 2 and done, maximize NIL deals for yourself. If you are a 1 or 2 and done, Cal would be a great way to go.
Believe that is for multiple sports. Missing on JQ doesn't give me much heartburn. Rumer is he's asking 1.5-2M. He's mot worth that. I'd rather have Aidoo.
Aidoo is likely a Baylor lean.
We're looking at some East Carolina forward now so I'm guessing we're on to backup plans. Then again there is a whole roster to fill out so they aren't all gonna be 5 star studs.
Quote from: animal on Apr 23, 2024, 09:36 PMAidoo is likely a Baylor lean.
We're looking at some East Carolina forward now so I'm guessing we're on to backup plans. Then again there is a whole roster to fill out so they aren't all gonna be 5 star studs.
The best type of teams have a mix. I'm fine with 2-3 great frosh recruits combined with vets. We may have that with Knox and Johnell Davis. Uconn had that with Castle as a 1 and done and upper classmen.
Multiple highly placed twitter sources (TOP people) are saying Johnell Davis is almost a Hog lock but the situation is liquid.
https://x.com/tytalkssports6/status/1782989640200245482
I think we're getting Boogie and Billy too...and then Cal is turning his attention to bigs.
Would like to see us pick up DJ Wagner as well. I think he will have a breakout year this year.
Depends on how they're allocating the available NIL.
It's amazing how fast you can burn through a chicken man's $6 mm.
It wasn't long ago Cam Newton got what, $200,000 to go to Auburn? Now basketball, BASKETBALL players are asking for over $1 million.
The days of the Pony Express were dirty. For some reason today's NIL feels just as dirty. Maybe even more.
As a fan back in the day I was under the delusion that players wanted to play for their dream school or to play for their dream coach. Today there's no delusion. It's "show me the money". Like selling a house, the highest offer wins.
College sports is really starting to suck.
McPherson says we have four committed besides Knox and Z with two more right behind them.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Apr 24, 2024, 06:07 PMI think we're getting Boogie and Billy too...and then Cal is turning his attention to bigs.
I'm still not used to it. The name conjures disgust in me. I need time.
Quote from: wmr on Apr 24, 2024, 11:09 PMI'm still not used to it. The name conjures disgust in me. I need time.
Cowboy up, buttercup.
He's our asshole now. It's OK.
Woo f'n Pig, gentlemen :><:
I'm ready to Boogie-woogie all night long! Let's go!!
How do you make a tissue dance?
Put a little boogie in it.
Our total ranking isn't that high because we only have 2 so far, but when ranked by average player grade...not bad.
billy richmond commits.
And to think, just a month ago I was going to give up my fan card. Now... another day, another elite player. :stache:
Calipari is killing it! Let's go!
Wagner is visiting fucking USC today.
his girlfriend goes there. really good bb player herself.
you got two 5* guards coming, with jonell davis rumored. it might be a little tough to get another really highly rated guy at that spot.
I like Wagner. It would nice having him run the 1. Still wouldn't mind having Blocker back if that falls thru.
https://twitter.com/OvertimeElite/status/1785041786794131465
the kid isn't nba ready just yet. seems to be between us and georgia.
Looking like it's gonna be Georgia.
Yeah crystal ball is Georgia.
Less pressure playing for a loser
I was told last Thursday at a charity event by a connected guy we're getting Aidoo, Burks, Davis.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 29, 2024, 06:15 PMI was told last Thursday at a charity event by a connected guy we're getting Aidoo, Burks, Davis.
Devo's coming back?
If not, who? Davis is a common name.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 29, 2024, 06:18 PMDevo's coming back?
If not, who? Davis is a common name.
Johnell Davis is a transfer from Florida Atlantic I believe.
He's basically the transfer right now. Top get from the portal at the moment.
Aidoo committed.
Next year is going to either be epic, or a disaster so big we set a record from occurrence to 30 for 30 episode.
he's the only one reporting it, but he's usually a legit source.
https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1785091042087166132?s=61&t=qabDgm279nbjnc2N75j5jA
edit: mcpherson reporting it also.
Would be nice if we got Wagner and the okie st center as well, but that's just me being greedy.
"insiders" say garrison is already committed, just not announced.
Woo f'n Pig, gentlemen :><:
Aidoo is a huge pickup. He absolutely dominated us in BWA.
I'd like to get another experienced guard. Also would love to get the White kid from UNCW.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 29, 2024, 06:50 PMNext year is going to either be epic, or a disaster so big we set a record from occurrence to 30 for 30 episode.
Can't be much shittier than last year.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 29, 2024, 07:11 PMAidoo is a huge pickup. He absolutely dominated us in BWA.
I'd like to get another experienced guard. Also would love to get the White kid from UNCW.
That's racist.
Cal will be highly motivated. This year will not be a disaster
I agree Cal will be motivated. Kids making a decent chunk of money but aren't overly obligated to give any fucks is going to be a variable every school will contend with from now on. So it'll be like a box of chocolates.
Good point
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1785115745623408669?t=ZQLA-lXR1kFUPuvxNOLSyg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1785115745623408669?t=ZQLA-lXR1kFUPuvxNOLSyg&s=19)
Quote from: animal on Apr 29, 2024, 08:28 PMI agree Cal will be motivated. Kids making a decent chunk of money but aren't overly obligated to give any fucks is going to be a variable every school will contend with from now on. So it'll be like a box of chocolates.
Coaches have led the way for several decades on bailing on schools and players for the better gig. No one is loyal except the fans, and even they burn jerseys. I've always said it should be the same way for players. Whether you allow it, or dont, the rules should be the same or similar for coaches and players.
I do understand that coaches have multi-year deals with buyouts, and the NIL is a 1-year contract without a buyout, so it's not exactly the same. I am a fan however of players having more mobility just like coaches have always had.
Cam Boozer (Carlos' kid) is supposedly a target for the Hogs. Don't know if we have a shot.
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1785130507014963552?t=lDyIqBSE6wBDE8tjnDnY8w&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1785130507014963552?t=lDyIqBSE6wBDE8tjnDnY8w&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 29, 2024, 08:53 PMhttps://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1785115745623408669?t=ZQLA-lXR1kFUPuvxNOLSyg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1785115745623408669?t=ZQLA-lXR1kFUPuvxNOLSyg&s=19)
"More big portal news, pun intended:"
What was the pun?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 30, 2024, 05:40 AM"More big portal news, pun intended:"
What was the pun?
I'm assuming it is because he is a "Big".
Quote from: BleedinRed on Apr 30, 2024, 05:40 AM"More big portal news, pun intended:"
What was the pun?
Pun intended. Amiright?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 29, 2024, 09:33 PMhttps://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1785130507014963552?t=lDyIqBSE6wBDE8tjnDnY8w&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1785130507014963552?t=lDyIqBSE6wBDE8tjnDnY8w&s=19)
Garrison to Kentucky
https://x.com/on3sports/status/1785305726568550477
We need to hope he gets a shitty draft grade.
Johnell incoming.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Apr 30, 2024, 01:28 PMJohnell incoming.
Surely the Hunt family chips in just on the name.
So we're going to have the most loaded team in program history.
I can't wait to see how we screw this up.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 30, 2024, 02:57 PMSo we're going to have the most loaded team in program history.
I can't wait to see how we screw this up.
We haven't had a good gambling scandal, so that's an option.
Quote from: bigpig on Apr 30, 2024, 02:57 PMSo we're going to have the most loaded team in program history.
I can't wait to see how we screw this up.
The same way most of cals teams do it. In the tournament.
I think we will have a very talented 8-9 and the rest for thise Cal feels can develop.
Two very intriguing 4's hit the portal today. Coleman Hawkins from IL and Toppin from NM. Hawkins will be highly sought after. Toppin would be a sophomore.
Quote from: BASS on Apr 30, 2024, 03:09 PMThe same way most of cals teams do it. In the tournament.
It's all about motivation. How do you get players, who make tens of millions every year, to even want to extend their season by making the playoffs? The ring. It's the one thing they can't buy.
College is different. Most of Cal's players have been one and done. Motivation to do what's necessary to win games just doesn't mean as much, if anything at all. Perhaps that's how lesser teams, on paper, do so well in the tournament these days.
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1785488870106370547
I guess we're outbidding the pros now
He may be worth it. Kid can play.
Deal worth north of $1 million. Expected to sign. Damn, Cal is killing the portal with Chicken Man's money. I think Cal is pissed and hears all the he's washed up talk and is out to prove shit.
Catfish Hole comes through again.
Need another good PG and a couple solid options options at the 4.
Quote from: BEvERage on Apr 30, 2024, 09:19 PMCatfish Hole comes through again.
That's a lot of hushpuppies.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 30, 2024, 09:09 PMhttps://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1785488870106370547
I guess we're outbidding the pros now
Say your prayers and eat your dino nuggies
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/arkansas-basketball-recruiting-ex-fau-star-johnell-davis-commits-to-razorbacks-john-calipari/
>:D
I see we have upgraded our Davis.
Did Cal get some mens?
Flame away
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 01, 2024, 11:11 AMFlame away
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19)
Cost himself millions by being stupid.
Thought he was headed to the draft.
Quote from: Gambler on May 01, 2024, 11:17 AMThought he was headed to the draft.
Guess they don't want a head case that quits.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 01, 2024, 11:11 AMFlame away
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19)
He's flaming alright.
he's going into the portal in case his draft eval isn't at least 2nd round. that way he can transfer to another school.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 01, 2024, 11:11 AMFlame away
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1785701917529649338?t=Dgmnbt7E-hw0JRFvGEA5Jg&s=19)
Does he still have knee issues?
Quote from: Hogfan58 on May 01, 2024, 11:49 AMDoes he still have knee issues?
He's "managed" them...
Quote from: Hogfan58 on May 01, 2024, 11:49 AMDoes he still have knee issues?
Rug burns should be heeled by now.
Two years ago I thought he was going to be sec breakout player of the year, and he played like it until he got hurt. He wasn't worth a roster spot after that.
He played well at the end of this year when he came back. I wouldn't be upset if he returned. We need to sign a couple 4's. Him and Aidoo would be a formidable front court combo defensively.
Quote from: vegashog on May 01, 2024, 11:49 AMhe's going into the portal in case his draft eval isn't at least 2nd round. that way he can transfer to another school.
Either that or he already knows his draft evaluation isn't that high.
He's likely gonna be a two way contract player. He can make more money in NIL.
Quote from: jdcatty on May 01, 2024, 12:04 PMEither that or he already knows his draft evaluation isn't that high.
There's no way it was very high. Brazile was trash this year and he's injury prone.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1785722062931366149
They've used this before, but it still gets me pumped:
https://x.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1785713435612942674
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on May 01, 2024, 01:35 PMThey've used this before, but it still gets me pumped:
https://x.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1785713435612942674
No. Nothing can.
adou thiero is in fayetteville on a visit. forward who played for cal last season.
For Brazil to go into the portal now tells me.
A. The NBA evals told him to pound sand
B. He was told he wouldn't play at Ark.
Quote from: animal on May 01, 2024, 03:23 PMFor Brazil to go into the portal now tells me.
A. The NBA evals told him to pound sand
B. He was told he wouldn't play at Ark.
I wish him well but but given the body of work he's done, what has made anyone think he's going to the league?
If he was the real deal he would have done it at Mizzou or here - he's a complimentary player at best.
I think we're all guilty of overhyping bigs, I know I was on Ware and he's yet to make a steady impact in college (oregon or indiana).
Quote from: DrMongoose on May 01, 2024, 04:16 PMI wish him well but but given the body of work he's done, what has made anyone think he's going to the league?
If he was the real deal he would have done it at Mizzou or here - he's a complimentary player at best.
I think we're all guilty of overhyping bigs, I know I was on Ware and he's yet to make a steady impact in college (oregon or indiana).
He'd have gone after his first year here had he not gotten hurt. I bought the Maui tv package and he had lottery talent.
My thoughts on Brazil are as follows.
1. He's a dime a dozen stretch four that's probably not really a 4 in the NBA but doesn't have the floor game to be a 3.
2. Since the injury he hasn't really shown the motor and the desire to really be good/great. Too easily pushed around.
3. He'd get smoked on the perimeter against most any small forward in the g league or nba and he's going to get his shit packed in the low post if you know what I mean.
His only real shot as a NBA player in my mind is IF he grows into more of a 4/5...adds some maturity/weight and embraces that role. Right now he's Kyle Kuzma without the talent, desire, or floor game.
I think maybe he's somebody that can go overseas for a few years and finds his niche and maybe he gets a shot in the league then but probably more likely a career guy in Europe or China.
Between his injury and his interview before this season where he said he knew he was already a draft pick, you just knew it wouldn't work out easy.
Today was the last day to enter the portal and there is really no incentive not to if you're also considering the draft. I think the deadline to withdraw from the draft is the end of May. So you get to get your evaluations and still have the option to come back to college if you don't like what you hear.
Brazile has been consistently, and still is, listed as a mid-2nd round pick in mock drafts. He had his chance to show he deserved an equal NIL value contract this year here and he blew it. Cal has bigger fish to spend those new NIL dollars on now. I don't know what school would allocate enough NIL dollars to Brazile to make him stay in college at this point. I think if he has a bad physical or NBA grade he just G League or Euros it for a couple years til he flames out (heh) and just quits basketball altogether. He doesn't seem to care a lot about it. Maybe he will change his attitude when he realizes that's his ticket in life.
It's disappointing. I thought, like many of you, he was going to be a badass here after the way he started the 2022-23 season.
Other Arkansas-related portal/NBA news:
-Kel'el Ware played well enough this year that he is considered a consensus top 15-25 pick this year
-Jaxson Robinson is a projected 2nd rounder in many mocks
-DJ Wagner has whittled himself into a 1st round grade so we may be an obsolete decision for him
i don't think combine invites have even gone out.
these guys have until the 29th to withdraw from the draft, so that's plenty of time to meet with whatever teams might be interested in them and get actual nba feedback.
Potential PG
https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1786039513132794243?t=bKQaOsYrA0pEB3b9VPFcMw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1786039513132794243?t=bKQaOsYrA0pEB3b9VPFcMw&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 02, 2024, 09:40 AMPotential PG
https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1786039513132794243?t=bKQaOsYrA0pEB3b9VPFcMw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JacksonCollier/status/1786039513132794243?t=bKQaOsYrA0pEB3b9VPFcMw&s=19)
maybe not.
https://twitter.com/sneakgod/status/1785757134614839710
The one I posted said he contacted Smith who told him there is interest in Arkansas.
The one you posted was from yesterday before they talked.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 02, 2024, 10:08 AMThe one I posted said he contacted Smith who told him there is interest in Arkansas.
The one you posted was from yesterday before they talked.
That's always an issue with X/twitter as it doesn't overly point out when something was posted.
apparently cal met with brazile today.
Did we sneak Wagner in for a visit?
Quote from: vegashog on May 02, 2024, 02:53 PMapparently cal met with brazile today.
I would be surprised if it went well.
My guess is he is welcome back if he wants to but he's not being begged (ie zero-to-minimal NIL) to
Thiero announcing May 8th
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 30, 2024, 03:07 PMWe haven't had a good gambling scandal, so that's an option.
Cannon Whitby?
brazile gets a combine invite.
didn't see this coming....... but then 78 got invites for 58 draft spots.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1786519004334391801
Quote from: DrMongoose on May 03, 2024, 05:21 PMdidn't see this coming....... but then 78 got invites for 58 draft spots.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1786519004334391801
Wait, what?
How long has there been a combine for basketball?
Is it based on the All Star 3 point and dunk contests?
I bet everyone a dollar that Cal sat down with him and gave him the advice for going pro that he gives all of his players when they announce.
it's a cliché that gets repeated every year, but the outside of the top half of the first round, most guys are drafted on their potential.
if he has good workouts with a couple of teams, i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a pretty decent 2nd round contract.
Quote from: HogOfWar on May 03, 2024, 05:40 PMWait, what?
How long has there been a combine for basketball?
Is it based on the All Star 3 point and dunk contests?
I think there is usually something in Portland every season that features players that may not be up to snuff for the NBA and the NBA combine is in Chicago every year I believe. Been that way for a while. Being invited to the combine for the NBA means you have a pretty solid chance someone thinks you are worth a damn.
I want to say Devo went to the combine last season and ended up getting smoked, came back and never looked himself.
Quote from: vegashog on May 03, 2024, 05:48 PMit's a cliché that gets repeated every year, but the outside of the top half of the first round, most guys are drafted on their potential.
if he has good workouts with a couple of teams, i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a pretty decent 2nd round contract.
It's interesting that Muss isn't recruiting him. If he's not
too dumb, he has the talent to play in the league.
Muss recruited one or two of the incoming kids but I don't think he touched any of the existing players which is very telling in either direction.
The little Arkansas NIL guy on Twitter says we have no large individual or corporate commitments at this time.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 03, 2024, 09:46 PMThe little Arkansas NIL guy on Twitter says we have no large individual or corporate commitments at this time.
we haven't signed the guys we have without someone putting up some cash.
Quote from: DrMongoose on May 03, 2024, 05:21 PMdidn't see this coming....... but then 78 got invites for 58 draft spots.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1786519004334391801
DEI FTW!
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 03, 2024, 09:46 PMThe little Arkansas NIL guy on Twitter says we have no large individual or corporate commitments at this time.
Probably semantics, meaning that the big boosters who are funding all this aren't going through the collective.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on May 06, 2024, 07:09 AMProbably semantics, meaning that the big boosters who are funding all this aren't going through the collective.
That makes sense. Why would they let some numbnut clip an admin margin off of their NIL contribution when they can go direct to market, so to speak.
Adou Thiero commits to Hogs.
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1787542861506125903
interesting comment by cal on his podcast. said he's going to go with an 8 or 9 man roster. not rotation, but roster.
doesn't feel like the guys who won't get the minutes they want, should get a year of development only to hit the portal.
You're not gonna aee many teams with 13 scholarship players anymore. Probably 10-11 max.
Interesting concept. I imagine they'll still be non-commissioned scholarship players and or a strong walk-on unit.
Not sure how I feel about having such a small roster. Seems like one injury could fuck the season worse than if you had more depth.
Disclaimer: No one's ever paid me several million dollars to coach basketball either.
My understanding is coaches feel they will have 3-4 kids unhappy about PT with a full roster. They spend time working to develop kids who will likely transfer instead of staying with the program.
You will see more walk ons be given scholarships.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 10, 2024, 07:49 AMMy understanding is coaches feel they will have 3-4 kids unhappy about PT with a full roster. They spend time working to develop kids who will likely transfer instead of staying with the program.
You will see more walk ons be given scholarships.
I'm afraid Calipari is used to having his games officiated the Kentucky way. He's not accustomed to the Arkansas way of having 4-5 guys in foul trouble at all times and the other team shooting 10-15 more free throws per game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 10, 2024, 07:49 AMMy understanding is coaches feel they will have 3-4 kids unhappy about PT with a full roster. They spend time working to develop kids who will likely transfer instead of staying with the program.
You will see more walk ons be given scholarships.
I think you need at least 10. He's probably right about the last 3 spots if they're not playing and potentially causing issues within the locker room. NIL probably makes it even worse. He'd rather have 3 Lawson Blake's who are happy to be along for the ride and contribute at practice.
He mentioned in the same interview that he wants to hire recently retired players as GA's for the team to practice against.
I agree on 10 being the ideal number. Another case where the transfer portal is ruining college ball.
last year he had 9 guys play an average of 31-18 minutes. from there it went to 7 to 1. he'd take a 10th only if the guy understood that he's going to be a practice/garbage time player.
throw in a walk on or two and the idea isn't as radical as it seems.
The idea is probably fine for a functioning basketball team for the season, but why do I have the sense that when you build a team from 0 players, 8-9 is where you end up, so somehow magically that becomes all you wanted on the team anyways.....
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on May 10, 2024, 09:30 AMThe idea is probably fine for a functioning basketball team for the season, but why do I have the sense that when you build a team from 0 players, 8-9 is where you end up, so somehow magically that becomes all you wanted on the team anyways.....
I was thinking something similar. First thought was, "I guess Chicken Man's money only goes so far."
the idea that john calipari can't get 3-4 more players to come to the university of arkansas to sit and learn from him because of nil money is a weird one.
how much did pinion, denijay harris or the other guys at the end of the bench get in nil?
he specifically said it's because he doesn't want to waste time and resources on guys he knows won't play as much as they think they should and transfer out after a season. i guess you can choose to believe that or not.
Quote from: vegashog on May 10, 2024, 09:24 AMlast year he had 9 guys play an average of 31-18 minutes. from there it went to 7 to 1. he'd take a 10th only if the guy understood that he's going to be a practice/garbage time player.
throw in a walk on or two and the idea isn't as radical as it seems.
I'm sure as long as we have a couple of walkons who could play in a pinch we would be fine.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on May 10, 2024, 07:53 AMI'm afraid Calipari is used to having his games officiated the Kentucky way. He's not accustomed to the Arkansas way of having 4-5 guys in foul trouble at all times and the other team shooting 10-15 more free throws per game.
He's fixing to find out how the other half lives.
Quote from: Guardrail on May 10, 2024, 02:02 PMHe's fixing to find out how the other half lives.
"Holy shit Memphis got treated better than this. MEMPHIS!"
This will push a lot of kids down to D2/NAIA.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 10, 2024, 02:17 PMThis will push a lot of kids down to D2/NAIA.
Where they will be easier pickings for cheaper money when/if they develop into nice players.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 10, 2024, 03:17 PMWhere they will be easier pickings for cheaper money when/if they develop into nice players.
Next move: affiliated farm teams for power five conferences.
"Come to Arkansas, we're going to put you in Conway for a year or two and then may bring you up."
Quote from: vegashog on May 10, 2024, 12:45 PMthe idea that john calipari can't get 3-4 more players to come to the university of arkansas to sit and learn from him because of nil money is a weird one.
how much did pinion, denijay harris or the other guys at the end of the bench get in nil?
he specifically said it's because he doesn't want to waste time and resources on guys he knows won't play as much as they think they should and transfer out after a season. i guess you can choose to believe that or not.
I'm sure it was meant to pump the brakes on guys wanting big numbers to come play for the Chicken Wang Hogs. I knew when figures as high as 7 million were being talked about that guys were going to get expensive. This creates a sense of urgency for prospective players to come aboard or get left out in the cold.
At face value certainly it's easier to manage 8 to 10 egos vs 13 but I do agree it could be construed in varies ways as spin. Does this count as some kind of double secret scholarship reduction penalty? Wasn't that being talked about as a reason Muss got out of Dodge?
Quote from: animal on May 10, 2024, 06:58 PMI'm sure it was meant to pump the brakes on guys wanting big numbers to come play for the Chicken Wang Hogs. I knew when figures as high as 7 million were being talked about that guys were going to get expensive. This creates a sense of urgency for prospective players to come aboard or get left out in the cold.
At face value certainly it's easier to manage 8 to 10 egos vs 13 but I do agree it could be construed in varies ways as spin. Does this count as some kind of double secret scholarship reduction penalty? Wasn't that being talked about as a reason Muss got out of Dodge?
Does number of scholarships even matter anymore when we're paying players?
Can you not pay not pay walk-on's?
Quote from: Borenutz on May 10, 2024, 08:08 PMDoes number of scholarships even matter anymore when we're paying players?
Can't you not pay not pay walk-on's?
So I reckon you are correct. A feller like that former MLB player coming to be a WR may be enough of an athlete to get on the field quickly and contribute so much so that he gets paid some NIL monies as a walkon.
Certainly could see Blake Lawson getting in on some free catfish. With 9 guys on the team surely Lawson gets some run as #10.
Quote from: animal on May 10, 2024, 08:13 PMSo I reckon you are correct. A feller like that former MLB player coming to be a WR may be enough of an athlete to get on the field quickly and contribute so much so that he gets paid some NIL monies as a walkon.
Certainly could see Blake Lawson getting in on some free catfish. With 9 guys on the team surely Lawson gets some run as #10.
Maybe they can reduce your total roster spots? Idk. I'd assume you would still have to maintain some sort of good academic standing a program.
Crazy times that you can make way more money in college than minor league pro sports.
d j wagner and darius acuff (#1 pg in next year's class) were at the game along with anthony black.
wagner is expected to commit this weekend.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on May 10, 2024, 07:53 AMI'm afraid Calipari is used to having his games officiated the Kentucky way. He's not accustomed to the Arkansas way of having 4-5 guys in foul trouble at all times and the other team shooting 10-15 more free throws per game.
Arkansas has had 4-5 players in foul trouble since the Nolan Richardson days mostly by design. That is just the way they were coached. A slapping defense was a trademark of Nolan's teams, and to a certain extent, Muss's. I'll betcha Cal's teams won't foul nearly as much.
Surely we can fill the last 3 or 4 spots with some blue collar type players for 30K-50K.
I saw a comment somewhere that we are looking at a kid overseas named Hugo Gonzalez. He's very good.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 11, 2024, 09:27 AMI saw a comment somewhere that we are looking at a kid overseas named Hugo Gonzalez. He's very good.
been in the real madrid system since he was nine. projected 1st rounder in the next year or two.
Quote from: vegashog on May 11, 2024, 11:06 AMbeen in the real madrid system since he was nine. projected 1st rounder in the next year or two.
I read the same. Think he was projected #5 overall. Isn't there some rule that doesn't allow foreign players to receive NIL money?
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 11, 2024, 12:06 PMI read the same. Think he was projected #5 overall. Isn't there some rule that doesn't allow foreign players to receive NIL money?
Just pay him under the table, the old fashioned way
You know they're getting paid some way. No way Edney came back last year with no NIL.
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 11, 2024, 12:06 PMI read the same. Think he was projected #5 overall. Isn't there some rule that doesn't allow foreign players to receive NIL money?
They've been getting paid since they started towering over their classmates.
Quote from: Lurk on May 11, 2024, 03:47 PMThey've been getting paid since they started towering over their classmates.
Right. I guess my question is why come play over here if he's already getting paid by RE and he's projected to be a top 5 NBA pick?
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 11, 2024, 03:56 PMRight. I guess my question is why come play over here if he's already getting paid by RE and he's projected to be a top 5 NBA pick?
Play for Cal?
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 11, 2024, 03:56 PMRight. I guess my question is why come play over here if he's already getting paid by RE and he's projected to be a top 5 NBA pick?
Marketing and brand awareness
People know the college stars but do you know the overtime elite or over seas guys?
Speaking of OE, I see Bryson Warren is at the G League combine. Will be interesting to see if he gets drafted.
Any word on the visits we had this past weekend?
Cal is big about the family concept. La Familia as the eye-talians say it. I'd be very surprised if we don't get Wagner. Dajuan Wagner (his dad) played at Memphis St under Cal and from everything I've seen still has a relationship with Cal.
To answer your question I haven't seen any updates.
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1790097288183898300
They replaced Aggy with the Horns as our 3rd home and away opponent. I wish Kentucky was one of them too.
I truly hope Texas gets the "welcome to the league" treatment that Arkansas got the first few 30 years, but I know they won't. TAM didn't. They got the carpet rolled out for them.
My kids and their friends are going to learn why us older folks absolutely HATE Texas.
Quote from: Guardrail on May 13, 2024, 06:46 PMI truly hope Texas gets the "welcome to the league" treatment that Arkansas got the first few 30 years, but I know they won't. TAM didn't. They got the carpet rolled out for them.
My kids and their friends are going to learn why us older folks absolutely HATE Texas.
I know Cal has coached in enough Ark-Ken games to understand that rivalry, but I hope someone explains to him what Ark-Tex means. He might thinks he knows but he doesn't.
Texas has a very good backvourt in T Mark and Tre Johnson. Johnson may very well be the best freshman in the country. Kid can score.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 13, 2024, 07:53 PMTexas has a very good backvourt in T Mark and Tre Johnson. Johnson may very well be the best freshman in the country. Kid can score.
Rodney Terry is not going to outcoach anyone.
and he's already let it be known he can't handle the horns down sign so he won't be long for the SEC.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 13, 2024, 07:53 PMTexas has a very good backvourt
I always thought it was interesting that there's a lot of German culture in Texas. Wurst and oompah music mixed with Mexican, and Shiner Bock.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on May 13, 2024, 08:42 PMI always thought it was interesting that there's a lot of German culture in Texas. Wurst and oompah music mixed with Mexican, and Shiner Bock.
Uhh...Shiner Bock is the Spoetzel Brewery..German you know.
Quote from: DrMongoose on May 13, 2024, 08:41 PMRodney Terry is not going to outcoach anyone.
and he's already let it be known he can't handle the horns down sign so he won't be long for the SEC.
There of course, is that.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on May 13, 2024, 08:42 PMI always thought it was interesting that there's a lot of German culture in Texas. Wurst and oompah music mixed with Mexican, and Shiner Bock.
German immigrants settled in south central Texas many years ago. It is real. Also, there is a presence of Slovaks which overlap with the Germans. One of my former partners, now deceased, still had family members in Czechoslovakia. He was from East Bernard, Texas, down by Houston. His family descended from immigrants who traveled to this country and headed west. Some settled in Slovak, Arkansas. Others in the same group went on to Texas. Some of the ones in Texas maintained a relationship with the Arkansans.
Ton of german influence in Boerne and the hill country.
Quote from: jdcatty on May 14, 2024, 08:34 AMGerman immigrants settled in south central Texas many years ago. It is real. Also, there is a presence of Slovaks which overlap with the Germans. One of my former partners, now deceased, still had family members in Czechoslovakia. He was from East Bernard, Texas, down by Houston. His family descended from immigrants who traveled to this country and headed west. Some settled in Slovak, Arkansas. Others in the same group went on to Texas. Some of the ones in Texas maintained a relationship with the Arkansans.
I just read an article that said these immigrants were mostly socialists fleeing government crackdowns and rural people with no opportunity to own land(and who would end up cannon fodder if they stayed). The socialists went to the northeast and the farmers went west. I know who got the best end of that deal.
If the rumors are true, Kentucky fans may be on suicide watch. Jaxson Robinson??
What rumors? WTF are you always so cryptic with this shit.
Quote from: BleedinRed on May 14, 2024, 11:41 AMWhat rumors? WTF are you always so cryptic with this shit.
Say as little as possible and be completely non-specific in what you do say. Then when something happens you can tell everyone, "See? I told you. Look how smart I am." Cheap psychics use the same trick.
Quote from: BleedinRed on May 14, 2024, 11:41 AMWhat rumors? WTF are you always so cryptic with this shit.
Are you retarded? How is that cryptic? It's all over the place.
Rumor that Cal reached out to Jaxson Robinson who played for Pope at BYU. They consider him to be a lock for KY if he doesn't stay in the draft.
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 14, 2024, 11:58 AMRumor that Cal reached out to Jaxson Robinson who played for Pope at BYU. They consider him to be a lock for KY if he doesn't stay in the draft.
The same dude we ran off and also transferred from Aggieland?
Quote from: Lurk on May 14, 2024, 10:53 AMI just read an article that said these immigrants were mostly socialists fleeing government crackdowns and rural people with no opportunity to own land(and who would end up cannon fodder if they stayed). The socialists went to the northeast and the farmers went west. I know who got the best end of that deal.
The 48'ers were instrumental in helping the Yankees win the war.
Quote from: Spiderham on May 14, 2024, 12:00 PMThe same dude we ran off and also transferred from Aggieland?
No. A different Jaxson Robinson.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 14, 2024, 11:58 AMAre you retarded? How is that cryptic? It's all over the place.
I googled "Jaxson Robinson" and there were zero.zero articles about him, Arkansas, Kentucky, Cal, or the Pope.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 14, 2024, 12:02 PMThe 48'ers were instrumental in helping the Yankees win the war.
Against their will in a lot of cases.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on May 14, 2024, 11:54 AMSay as little as possible and be completely non-specific in what you do say. Then when something happens you can tell everyone, "See? I told you. Look how smart I am." Cheap psychics use the same trick.
He's too stupid to copy and paste the link.
Quote from: Lurk on May 14, 2024, 12:12 PMHe's too stupid to copy and paste the link.
Pretty sure he would tell you he can't copy and paste in-person conversations. You know, because he is so well connected.
Or he's too embarrassed to say he read it on Nobville.
It's all over Twitter morons.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 14, 2024, 11:58 AMAre you retarded? How is that cryptic? It's all over the place.
What is all over the place?
X trending is really not like it used to be it's more tailored to the individual participants interests. So it's "all over the place"
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 14, 2024, 12:30 PMIt's all over Twitter morons.
You can copy and paste twitter links, they'll even embed.
Nope. You've got all the time in the world. Look it up lazy ass.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 14, 2024, 01:03 PMNope. You've got all the time in the world. Look it up lazy ass.
Correcting you is a full time job.
Pryor to Louisville.
Quote from: animal on May 14, 2024, 04:31 PMWho is that?
USF transfer we were after. First swing and miss of the Cal era.
he didn't even visit. not sure how it's a miss if he didn't want to at least check it out.
He would've been a nice pickup and we need another guy to play the 4.
probably so, but i doubt his interest if he didn't at least visit.
Quote from: animal on May 14, 2024, 04:31 PMWho is that?
Are you fucking retarded? It's all over Twitagram.
Quote from: BleedinRed on May 14, 2024, 06:28 PMAre you fucking retarded? It's all over Twitagram.
All I see on X is people pointing out how retarded people are who vote for Biden. On Rumble I watched Dan Bongino break down where half the room got up and left the moment The Binder entered the room today or yesterday.
Quote from: vegashog on May 14, 2024, 05:15 PMprobably so, but i doubt his interest if he didn't at least visit.
I'm not seeing anything saying that he visited Louisville prior to committing. Looks like he just needed the money to do the talking. After Osobor turned them down, the Cards had a lot of cash suddenly become available, money Prior was more than happy to take off their hands
https://x.com/amfkristensen/status/1790535726641054075
:thumb_up:
also said again he wants 8-9 guys and that he met with jerrah for a couple of hours yesterday.
Quote from: vegashog on May 14, 2024, 08:34 PMalso said again he wants 8-9 guys and that he met with jerrah for a couple of hours yesterday.
https://x.com/coachcalark/status/1790552217897832649?
Jerrah's not the only one he met with.
There are things that you can criticize Coach Cal for, political savviness ain't one of them.
I was thinking after he was done coaching we need to make him AD or chief fundraiser emeritus or something. He has been here a couple of months and from the outside looking in it looks like he has made more of an effort with our big money guys than anyone else has in the past 20 years.
That dude could quit, run for governor, and win tomorrow despite the current one's term having two more years on it.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 15, 2024, 06:39 AMI was thinking after he was done coaching we need to make him AD or chief fundraiser emeritus or something. He has been here a couple of months and from the outside looking in it looks like he has made more of an effort with our big money guys than anyone else has in the past 20 years.
It's also a sign of the times. Now more so than ever you need money people to do money shit if we want to even be competitive.
Quote from: buff2.0 on May 15, 2024, 07:05 AMThat dude could quit, run for governor, and win tomorrow despite the current one's term having two more years on it.
No kidding. He's as smooth as slick willy. If he wants to go into politics, it's absolutely there for him.
Quote from: piglosopher on May 15, 2024, 04:00 PMNo kidding. He's as smooth as slick willy. If he wants to go into politics, it's absolutely there for him.
Another 20 years and he'll be old enough to be president.
The only Arkansas Billionaires he hasn't met with are the Waltons. And if he did, they would probably keep it quiet.
Quote from: wmr on May 15, 2024, 06:31 PMThe only Arkansas Billionaires he hasn't met with are the Waltons. And if he did, they would probably keep it quiet.
He saw someone from their camp the night he was introduced. Supposedly Chicken man, Ms Hunt and Stephens were there as well.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on May 15, 2024, 06:36 PMHe saw someone from their camp the night he was introduced. Supposedly Chicken man, Ms Hunt and Stephens were there as well.
Well fuck me.
Maybe they will start getting on board with football, too.
Quote from: Vito Porkleone on May 15, 2024, 06:36 PMHe saw someone from their camp the night he was introduced. Supposedly Chicken man, Ms Hunt and Stephens were there as well.
Has he met with HTL yet?
hogs pull out of rady's children tournament in san diego. sucks because i had planned to go for sure.
maybe looking to get into one that possible foreign player(s) can get some nil?
This kid is gonna be fun to watch.
https://twitter.com/OvertimeElite/status/1791275291861455245?t=yOeMJ7pUTB0PvXUaZgBxYQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/OvertimeElite/status/1791275291861455245?t=yOeMJ7pUTB0PvXUaZgBxYQ&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on May 16, 2024, 09:54 PMThis kid is gonna be fun to watch.
https://twitter.com/OvertimeElite/status/1791275291861455245?t=yOeMJ7pUTB0PvXUaZgBxYQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/OvertimeElite/status/1791275291861455245?t=yOeMJ7pUTB0PvXUaZgBxYQ&s=19)
Well, He def is not mute.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 17, 2024, 07:32 AMRent free.
I'll take "your parents basement" for 1000, Alex.
:maundoed:
That was funny.
Quote from: Lurk on May 17, 2024, 11:08 AMI'll take "your parents basement" for 1000, Alex.
You posted a picture of your house with 1980's green shag carpet. Sit this one out, Sparky.
Quote from: hit_that_line on May 17, 2024, 12:03 PMYou posted a picture of your house with 1980's green shag carpet. Sit this one out, Sparky.
No, I didn't. It's 1980's linoleum and it's only curled up in a few places.
Quote from: Lurk on May 17, 2024, 12:06 PMNo, I didn't. It's 1980's linoleum and it's only curled up in a few places.
Damn, that takes me back. But seriously, you guys need to cut the shit with all of these posts that are irrelevant to our roster building. I keep seeing "new" next to this thread and open it up thinking we got another world beater.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on May 17, 2024, 02:01 PMDamn, that takes me back. But seriously, you guys need to cut the shit with all of these posts that are irrelevant to our roster building. I keep seeing "new" next to this thread and open it up thinking we got another world beater.
Who was added to the roster in your post?
Quote from: Usafhawg on May 17, 2024, 02:45 PMWho was added to the roster in your post?
As soon as I was posting that, I thought about adding something to the effect of, "and yes, I realize this post just adds to the long line of 'nothing to see here' posts". But then I thought that, given the fact that I was on my 3rd edit to correct fat thumbing the buttons on my phone, I better not risk a 4th, which would assuredly melt the woopig servers.
And yes, I realizes this is yet another "nothing to see here" post.
Aidoo pulls name from draft
Quote from: BEvERage on May 17, 2024, 04:18 PMAidoo pulls name from draft
He was in the draft?
I thought he was already a committed
Calipari Razorback.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on May 17, 2024, 05:53 PMHe was in the draft?
I thought he was already a committed Calipari Razorback.
I think we have a couple that were "testing the waters"
https://x.com/arrecruitingguy/status/1794897559699484876
Was coming to post this. Great news! We have a very, very good roster. If we somehow land Hawkins and/or Demin, watch out.
brazile withdraws from the draft.
read he was taking summer classes so it wouldn't be a total shock to me if he ended up back on the team.
Quote from: vegashog on May 27, 2024, 03:03 PMbrazile withdraws from the draft.
read he was taking summer classes so it wouldn't be a total shock to me if he ended up back on the team.
Maybe he has his eye on the new dreamy boy in town.
Quote from: vegashog on May 27, 2024, 03:03 PMbrazile withdraws from the draft.
read he was taking summer classes so it wouldn't be a total shock to me if he ended up back on the team.
Interesting. I didn't think there was any chance he would withdraw. Think Cal would take him?
We do need another forward.
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 27, 2024, 03:34 PMInteresting. I didn't think there was any chance he would withdraw. Think Cal would take him?
was projected in the 40s. supposedly the league wants to see him stay healthy for a season.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on May 27, 2024, 03:41 PMWe do need another forward.
this.
looks like hawkins is pretty much a lock to stay in the draft and toppin has eliminated arkansas. he's not going to be promised a starting job, but if cal thinks he's healthy and has his mind right, who knows.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on May 27, 2024, 03:41 PMWe do need another forward.
Could always use a tall body.
We are ranked 16th in this CBS poll. Pretty impressive for a team with only eight players.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-arkansas-rises-in-top-25-and-1-as-john-calipari-continues-to-add-transfers/amp/
the russian kid commits to byu.
Well...dasvidaniya.
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lol
I'll preface this with freely admitting I know next to nothing about much of anything, and I'm sure we would be all over ourselves if we got him, but do we really need another combo guard? If we were to have our druthers, I think we would be better off landing a physical stretch 5 to help our front court depth. Not optimistic about our ceiling if Aidoo is our most physical big. I know we have the 7 footer and Theiro (Bob is gonna have fun keeping Adou and Aidoo straight next year), but the Croatian seems to be more of a finesse/euro type, and Therio is more of a glue guy (the type to get you a few contested rebounds and provide good D, but probably won't take over the paint).
Are there even any high quality 5's left in the portal?
Wouldn't mind having a Justin Smith type that can play physical at the 4. That allows Adou to play some at the 3.
Of course you have Brazile still out there. I'm probably in the minority on bringing him back. Coleman Hawkins is a possibility if he opts out of the draft.
Quote from: Guardrail on May 28, 2024, 12:21 PMWell...dasvidaniya.
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You won the internet today. :thumb_up:
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1795874810263908681
Cal says he's looking to add one more guy. That will put us at 9. Rest he considers walk on's.
https://x.com/TreyWallace_/status/1795872730677408202?t=LZkPozmtVdKzGpGihRJb7A&s=19 (https://x.com/TreyWallace_/status/1795872730677408202?t=LZkPozmtVdKzGpGihRJb7A&s=19)
They'll still be scholarship players though, just no NIL (at least not right away).
https://twitter.com/BBakerHogs/status/1795901229924565467
Does anybody know who is already on campus or when they're getting here?
Would be nice to get Brazile some run w/ them if he's on campus taking classes anyway. Just to see what's there.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on May 29, 2024, 06:52 PMDoes anybody know who is already on campus or when they're getting here?
Would be nice to get Brazile some run w/ them if he's on campus taking classes anyway. Just to see what's there.
I'm starting to think he was always staying.
Nah, if he got a first round grade he was gone. Sounds crazy, I know, but some mocks had him as a lottery pick last preseason.
I, for one, would be glad to have him back. Not sure if that's in the "Cal 9" rotation. But Brazile and another physical big, whether he be a muscled up 6'7" or a true big, that knows he's here to rebound and foul hard, would complete the roster for me.
Believe kids report the last week of June.
interview from sec spring meetings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMr18--iTiI
I'm not confident Brazil is coming back to Arkansas and don't really care if he does. Though I do believe Cal would help put him in a position to showcase his skill set more so than the Muss offense which had floundered once conference foes figured it out.
If you guys can't come to grips w/ a guy who was definitely going to be a 2nd round pick coming back as our "10th" man, I can't help you.
Quote from: Pig Benis on May 29, 2024, 01:43 PMhttps://x.com/bmarcello/status/1795874810263908681
No Pine Bluff? WTF? 😂
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on May 29, 2024, 08:19 PMIf you guys can't come to grips w/ a guy who was definitely going to be a 2nd round pick coming back as our "10th" man, I can't help you.
Somebody had to say it.
Thank you.
coleman hawkins withdraws from the draft and will transfer to a new school.
this guy is going to cost some serious nil money.
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1795995738507211105
Aaron Torres tweeted that his agent has put the price tag at 2 million
he averaged 12/6. doesn't seem to be worth that.
we were supposed to be a favorite for him, but i assume that was before his price was announced.
Wouldn't he want 10 guys to be able to scrimmage? I guess there will be walk-ons allowed.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on May 29, 2024, 09:20 PMWouldn't he want 10 guys to be able to scrimmage? I guess there will be walk-ons allowed.
He's planning on bringing in GAs who can scrimmage.
It will be a full team of scholarship players, 9 are to be projected rotation players who will be paid. Anyone else will have to earn their keep via the traditional scholarship constraints. I would gather that means they got 9 slots for collective/chicken-man NIL guys and that's gonna be it.
Quote from: vegashog on May 29, 2024, 07:56 PMinterview from sec spring meetings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMr18--iTiI
Was Cal taking a shot a Musselman about the lack of a schedule? Before I start disliking him even more, is that normal?
not sure that was a dig on muss. coaches put the ooc schedule together.
he likes marquis matchups on neutral courts, that's probably what he was talking about.
Quote from: vegashog on May 29, 2024, 09:43 PMnot sure that was a dig on muss. coaches put the ooc schedule together.
he likes marquis matchups on neutral courts, that's probably what he was talking about.
Yeah I can see Cal cruising around campus in one of these. It's in his new favorite color.
IMG_3207.jpeg
Quote from: vegashog on May 29, 2024, 09:43 PMnot sure that was a dig on muss. coaches put the ooc schedule together.
he likes marquis matchups on neutral courts, that's probably what he was talking about.
I'm curious to see who we play in MSG.
Quote from: vegashog on May 29, 2024, 09:43 PMnot sure that was a dig on muss. coaches put the ooc schedule together.
he likes marquis matchups on neutral courts, that's probably what he was talking about.
I didn't take it that way either. Muss always scheduled strong OOC mid-majors.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a UConn or Villanova in MSG...or a Houston or Texas Tech in Dallas.
Those games aren't going to hurt you that bad if you lose and it's going to show your team how to step the fuck up for the postseason on neutral courts.
MSG might be a possible St. John's match against Pitino? Could be one of those early season tournaments?
As for our other OOC's...last season wasn't that great and we struggled bigly against some really weak teams. Ruta was supposedly a genius at picking these OOCs...anyway sometimes shit just doesn't pan out. Scheduling more neutral site games is essentially same as saying we're going to schedule more A-listers and less directional schools. The kids coming to play for Cal aren't coming to play Texas-Arlington.
Quote from: animal on May 30, 2024, 06:12 AMlast season wasn't that great and we struggled bigly against some really weak teams.
We also struggled biggggggggly against some mediocre teams. And against some good teams.
We struggled.
"I would go somewhere with a football team where I can enjoy a football game."
—Coleman Hawkins on where he would transfer
I guess that leaves us out.
Hogs playing Michigan as part of the Jimmy V Foundation at Madison Square Garden in November.
Miami and Tennessee will play as well.
Quote from: woodhog14 on May 30, 2024, 01:45 PMHogs playing Michigan as part of the Jimmy V Foundation at Madison Square Garden in November.
Miami and Tennessee will play as well.
Not bad.
decent matchup.
maybe baylor or houston in dallas.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on May 30, 2024, 09:10 AM"I would go somewhere with a football team where I can enjoy a football game."
—Coleman Hawkins on where he would transfer
I guess that leaves us out.
Ouch.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on May 30, 2024, 09:10 AM"I would go somewhere with a football team where I can enjoy a football game."
—Coleman Hawkins on where he would transfer
I guess that leaves us out.
It's also funny because he's leaving Coach Cheeseburger's school.
Michigan is our sister state.
https://x.com/KentuckyNet/status/1797638703944511702
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jun 03, 2024, 01:48 PMhttps://x.com/KentuckyNet/status/1797638703944511702
Uh, what? I am shocked! When did this happen? Is Muss gone. Then?
That is one hell of a lag in that news to come out.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jun 03, 2024, 01:48 PMhttps://x.com/KentuckyNet/status/1797638703944511702
Why haven't I heard about this?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jun 03, 2024, 01:48 PMhttps://x.com/KentuckyNet/status/1797638703944511702
No way! I bet everyone on here knew something about this!
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jun 03, 2024, 02:05 PMNo way! I bet everyone on here knew something about this!
I did, but it came off of a pay board so I couldn't tell y'all.
Those Kentucky pay boards are, like, suuuuper stingy with their news.
HTL will be along to tell everyone he knew this 2 months ago
Keep this here.
Do we even have any players left to field a team next year?
Quote from: Piggielicious on Jun 03, 2024, 05:13 PMDo we even have any players left to field a team next year?
you don't keep up much, do you.
Quote from: vegashog on Jun 03, 2024, 05:49 PMyou don't keep up much, do you.
That went over your head, didn't it?
I called it.
Any news about those nuts talking about going to the moon? Like that will ever happen.
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1798093070845796784?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
The walk on portion of our bench is gonna be lit.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Jun 04, 2024, 03:47 PMhttps://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1798093070845796784?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
I did not expect that.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jun 04, 2024, 03:49 PMThe walk on portion of our bench is gonna be lit.
That's how you boost your NIL. Three roster spots to the highest bidder.
TB is about to FAFO if he is not working his ass off
working hard
working out hard
damn these gay double entendres just come at you so fast
fuck it. :D
He goes from probably our top returner last year to our 7-8th best player thus year.
I really hope he comes in focused and shows some of that potential we all saw at the start of the season before last. If he balls out and turns into that lotto pick some thought him to be, I would pay money for the behind the scenes story of wth happened last year (not buying the teammate tryst angle)
i think it's a good move for both parties.
I'm for it.
I mean if Brazille is the guy you got bringing up the end of your bench, you should be pretty good, right?
I like it as well. Feedback from the combine was they needed to see him healthy. I think he will buy in and be a solid contributor.
This is an extremely talented roster that could be top 20 offensively and defensively.
and if he listens to kenny payne, probably the best big man coach in the college game, i don't see him just sitting at the end of the bench.
two of the players listed as 4s on the roster are 6-5 and 6-6, both freshmen. they come with some hype but until they get into the schedule, you never know about young guys.
Richmond and Knox are more of a 3 than a 4. Thiero can play the 4 if you wanna go small.
Wagner, Davis, Thiero, Brazile, Aidoo would be elite defensively.
Dammit. Somebody cue up the Pacino meme.
Cool. In the pros guys like this have to have that prove it year before the pay day. That's basically what's happening here and it will pay off if he buys in and is successful. If it doesn't pan out early on then it's operation shut down. That's the risk with guys like this.
Hope I'm wrong but I think TB is just too soft to excel at the next level.
I refuse to get my hopes up.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jun 04, 2024, 06:16 PMI refuse to get my hopes up.
Same here. My expectations for the season are VERY low.
I still think we need a physical big. I get that Cal wants to stretch the floor and play a more fluid offensive scheme, but it would be nice to plug in a big ugly bruiser when needed
Same. An enforcer.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 04, 2024, 07:00 PMI still think we need a physical big. I get that Cal wants to stretch the floor and play a more fluid offensive scheme, but it would be nice to plug in a big ugly bruiser when needed
That guy from Tenn isn't a bruiser?
Another guy to plug in when we're in foul trouble...and also to foul hard. Rebounds would be cool too.
Quote from: animal on Jun 04, 2024, 07:25 PMThat guy from Tenn isn't a bruiser?
I thought he was.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jun 04, 2024, 07:27 PMAnother guy to plug in when we're in foul trouble...and also to foul hard. Rebounds would be cool too.
Lawson Blake can get it done for sure.
For real though I'd like to have a Kamani Johnson but be a lot closer to Larry Johnson.
Quote from: animal on Jun 04, 2024, 07:25 PMThat guy from Tenn isn't a bruiser?
The word from some is he wilts against other, more physical bigs. I know he was more than enough against us, but we haven't been much of a barometer in that regard for some time. Regardless, like Doc said, we need one more to rotate in as needed.
if cal is to be believed, we have the rotation.
if he can find some enforcer type that is good with no (guaranteed) nil and 5 fouls to give, then it shouldn't be that hard to find one.
Neither Roosevelt Wallace nor Isaiah Butch Morris are walking through that door
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 04, 2024, 07:00 PMI still think we need a physical big. I get that Cal wants to stretch the floor and play a more fluid offensive scheme, but it would be nice to plug in a big ugly bruiser when needed
I don't know man, I heard Brazille pounded the shit out of some guy's ass one night after an altercation at a club. So, I think he can be pretty tough if he wants to be.
Quote from: vegashog on Jun 04, 2024, 05:13 PMand if he listens to kenny payne, probably the best big man coach in the college game, i don't see him just sitting at the end of the bench.
two of the players listed as 4s on the roster are 6-5 and 6-6, both freshmen. they come with some hype but until they get into the schedule, you never know about young guys.
Hopefully Payne can teach him a midrange game.
we need a distributor aka point guard
wagner is not a point guard
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 04, 2024, 08:17 PMI don't know man, I heard Brazille pounded the shit out of some guy's ass one night after an altercation at a club. So, I think he can be pretty tough if he wants to be.
Maybe just ask Devo?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jun 04, 2024, 08:32 PMwe need a distributor aka point guard
wagner is not a point guard
It would be very Arkansas for this to be a problem again.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jun 04, 2024, 08:32 PMwe need a distributor aka point guard
wagner is not a point guard
Fland is a point guard.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 04, 2024, 08:17 PMI don't know man, I heard Brazille pounded the shit out of some guy's ass one night after an altercation at a club. So, I think he can be pretty tough if he wants to be.
Did that arouse him or something?
wagner officially signs and is on campus.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jun 04, 2024, 09:16 PMFland is a point guard.
If you have a team that passes well, you don't necessarily have to have a true PG. Look at Bama, they don't have a true PG but they move the ball well as a team. It's getting less common to see guys with 6+ assists per game.
Hogs will play at Miami in the SEC/ACC Challenge.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jun 12, 2024, 01:14 PMHogs will play at Miami in the SEC/ACC Challenge.
It's not Dook or UNC but we could've done much worse.
Full listing of ACC/SEC Challenge matchups:
Tuesday, Dec. 3
South Carolina at Boston College
Cal at Missouri
Kentucky at Clemson
Florida State at LSU
Georgia Tech at Oklahoma
Ole Miss at Louisville
Arkansas at Miami
Notre Dame at Georgia
Syracuse at Tennessee
Wake Forest at Texas A&M
Wednesday, Dec. 4
Auburn at Duke
Texas at NC State
Alabama at North Carolina
Pitt at Mississippi State
Virginia at Florida
Vanderbilt at Virginia Tech
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Jun 12, 2024, 06:15 PMFull listing of ACC/SEC Challenge matchups:
Tuesday, Dec. 3
South Carolina at Boston College
Cal at Missouri
Kentucky at Clemson
Florida State at LSU
Georgia Tech at Oklahoma
Ole Miss at Louisville
Arkansas at Miami
Notre Dame at Georgia
Syracuse at Tennessee
Wake Forest at Texas A&M
Wednesday, Dec. 4
Auburn at Duke
Texas at NC State
Alabama at North Carolina
Pitt at Mississippi State
Virginia at Florida
Vanderbilt at Virginia Tech
UVA at Florida is the best match-up at an SEC venue? The 2 Bama school matchups look tasty.
Cal vs Missouri is just a good ole fashioned traditional ACC vs SEC match up.
Quote from: Hizog on Jun 12, 2024, 06:46 PMCal vs Missouri is just a good ole fashioned traditional ACC vs SEC match up.
Cal is in the ACC now?
The Atlantic coast comes at you so fast I forgot they'd moved conferences.
Cal could play at Syracuse on a Wednesday, home game Saturday, and a road game at Miami on Tuesday. That is a brutal travel schedule.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jun 13, 2024, 07:40 AMCal could play at Syracuse on a Wednesday, home game Saturday, and a road game at Miami on Tuesday. That is a brutal travel schedule.
How are these kids going to class?
:maundoed:
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jun 13, 2024, 07:40 AMCal could play at Syracuse on a Wednesday, home game Saturday, and a road game at Miami on Tuesday. That is a brutal travel schedule.
I hope the Muss Bus has fun with that Big10 schedule, too.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jun 12, 2024, 01:14 PMHogs will play at Miami in the SEC/ACC Challenge.
Nice. I will go watch that.
Where does Miami play their home games? Is it a nice facility?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 14, 2024, 08:03 AMWhere does Miami play their home games? Is it a nice facility?
Unlike football, they actually have basketball on campus. I've never been in the building but it's relatively new, maybe I5-ish years old. It looks pretty nice from what I've seen on TV.
https://miamihurricanes.com/facilities/watsco-center/
I've been once right after it opened. Nothing special. Decent amount of stuff to do in the area though (outside of the game).
https://x.com/arhoopscoop/status/1803088743051464767
We're efforting an agreement?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jun 18, 2024, 09:32 PMWe're efforting an agreement?
"It's an industry term"
Is that a real word? I thought it was a Woopig term.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jun 19, 2024, 06:54 AMIs that a real word? I thought it was a Woopig term.
It's not a real word that any author should ever use.
https://x.com/Sturdy32/status/1803836710314299611
Interesting. In Kansas City?
cal said he wanted another neutral site game if they couldn't get a home & home with someone.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1804207540617777648
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jun 21, 2024, 12:55 PMhttps://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1804207540617777648
This actually makes sense.
Quote from: vegashog on Jun 20, 2024, 12:57 PMcal said he wanted another neutral site game if they couldn't get a home & home with someone.
Parlaying that into a Thanksgiving day game after the NFL is a great move.
Quote from: TC on Jun 22, 2024, 12:21 AMParlaying that into a Thanksgiving day game after the NFL is a great move.
Won't it be against an NFL game? They usually have 3 on Thanksgiving.
looks like we bought our way back into the big time
as opposed to our usual "waste a few years on a halfwit" move
It still looks weird seeing Cal in Hog gear.
Quote from: egregious on Jun 22, 2024, 07:03 AMlooks like we bought our way back into the big time
as opposed to our usual "waste a few years on a halfwit" move
Yes but does Saban love chicken
Quote from: Gambler on Jun 22, 2024, 01:29 AMWon't it be against an NFL game? They usually have 3 on Thanksgiving.
looks like there will be about an hour from tip off to the start of the giants-cowboys game.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jun 22, 2024, 07:22 AMIt still looks weird seeing Cal in Hog gear.
Yes it does
Quote from: animal on Jun 22, 2024, 07:31 AMYes but does Saban love chicken
I like how you think.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jun 22, 2024, 07:22 AMIt still looks weird seeing Cal in Hog gear.
It will be even weirder to see him coaching and getting cheered in BWA.
looks like we added a couple of players.
a transfer from hawaii pacific and a high school kid from cali. info is kinda slim on both. also blake lawson is listed on the official roster.
https://hpusharks.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/melo-sanchez/4308
HS video, but the kid can stroke it. 46% from 3 while at Hawaii. Looks like we might get what we hoped for in Pinion. And unlike the previously mentioned red wolf, the kid might not be a complete defensive black hole. He had the second most blocks on the team last year.
He has a really nice jump shot, can stop and pop, and can shoot it off a pick. Pinion had none of those qualities.
Just watched the replay of Cal on McAfee today. Really good stuff. The Draft tonight will be another big "Come Play for Cal" advert.
I know some of you are skeptical, but I still can't believe dude is actually our coach. Is it basketball season yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkmFjDDzPA
Did you guys hear the stats he threw out? I had to go back and listen again. 70% of the players they recruited got drafted, 73% of those drafted went on to sign second contracts, and 30% of the current max contracts are his players. I mean just take a laminated copy of that into a recruit's home, leave it on the table, and walk back out because the job is done at that point.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 26, 2024, 05:25 PMDid you guys hear the stats he threw out? I had to go back and listen again. 70% of the players they recruited got drafted, 73% of those drafted went on to sign second contracts, and 30% of the current max contracts are his players. I mean just take a laminated copy of that into a recruit's home, leave it on the table, and walk back out because the job is done at that point.
And over $5 BILLION in contracts. Not even factoring in endorsement deals. Unreal.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 26, 2024, 05:25 PMDid you guys hear the stats he threw out? I had to go back and listen again. 70% of the players they recruited got drafted, 73% of those drafted went on to sign second contracts, and 30% of the current max contracts are his players. I mean just take a laminated copy of that into a recruit's home, leave it on the table, and walk back out because the job is done at that point.
And one championship.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jun 26, 2024, 07:53 PMAnd one championship.
That's what bothers me the most about his coaching ability.
Best players, best cheating in college basketball, best facilities, most fan support.
He's like the Texas longhorns of basketball.
For the love of God and all that is holy, prove me wrong Cal.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 26, 2024, 05:25 PMDid you guys hear the stats he threw out? I had to go back and listen again. 70% of the players they recruited got drafted, 73% of those drafted went on to sign second contracts, and 30% of the current max contracts are his players. I mean just take a laminated copy of that into a recruit's home, leave it on the table, and walk back out because the job is done at that point.
The fans want championships; the players want to get to the NBA
https://x.com/dholstine32/status/1807764421395026004?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/dholstine32/status/1807764421395026004?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
He fiddin to go to Rykers. Dumbass.
The Fed needs to raise interest rates if that guys jersey is going for $600.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jul 01, 2024, 12:01 PMThe Fed needs to raise interest rates if that guys jersey is going for $600.
No shit, I didn't even recognize him. I guess that's his big play face... didn't get to see it too many times.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jul 01, 2024, 12:01 PMThe Fed needs to raise interest rates if that guys jersey is going for $600.
Or that Dylan dude is just a dumbass.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Jul 01, 2024, 04:24 PMOr that Dylan dude is just a dumbass.
Believe that has been confirmed.
Wrong link
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1807890925026435539 (https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1807890925026435539)
If they have a few of these loaded and ready to go each weekend, we all just might make it through the upcoming fb season.
Just saw that Lawson Blake ruptured his achilles. Hate it for the kid. Hopefully he takes his time with recovery. That's not an injury you want to rush back from.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jul 03, 2024, 03:06 PMJust saw that Lawson Blake ruptured his achilles. Hate it for the kid. Hopefully he takes his time with recovery. That's not an injury you want to rush back from.
I think he's either in med school or fixin to be so his career in basketball is likely over.
i guess we could dream.
https://twitter.com/CoachCalArk/status/1808617796273668600
Quote from: vegashog on Jul 03, 2024, 07:21 PMi guess we could dream.
https://twitter.com/CoachCalArk/status/1808617796273668600
He was the keynote speaker at a fundraiser deal I went to last month. He's an impressive dude.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/18777685/Ayden-Kelley
Got a commitment from this dude out of Mississippi...another point guard. Guard you getting off the bus type.
coach wasn't lying with filling the last spots with guys willing to come in and be practice bodies.
imagine these dude's reaction to getting a call out of nowhere from john calipari.
Yep. That guy looks about 5'7".
With Blake out I kinda figure they'll go find another big white/black/Injun for a practice player
Quote from: animal on Jul 04, 2024, 08:25 AMWith Blake out I kinda figure they'll go find another big white/black/Injun for a practice player
convince me he (that player) is not already on the roster.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jul 01, 2024, 10:44 AMhttps://x.com/dholstine32/status/1807764421395026004?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ (https://x.com/dholstine32/status/1807764421395026004?s=46&t=Z4r2QIiNNsZM5Lty4ufQXQ)
A super-duper scary black gun with all of 7 rounds? How dare he! OMG he was smoking weed too? Gasp! He clearly needs to do hard time .
I may or may not have driven across 3 states today with better than that. The faux outrage is so exhausting.
Comments talking about how they can't prove Pot Smell in court so it cannot be used as probable cause for a search. The gun was in plain sight but the windows were so tinted that Davenport got a citation for it. I guess he rolled down the window and weed smoke came out, then thru all that the cop could spot the gun with an illegal clip.
I'm glad he got arrested because nobody needs this trash rolling the streets but this is also why nobody likes the cops. I haven't really heard a crime or a reason why they were even pulled over. Oh it was double parked...damn it.
Quote from: animal on Jul 08, 2024, 06:25 AMComments talking about how they can't prove Pot Smell in court so it cannot be used as probable cause for a search. The gun was in plain sight but the windows were so tinted that Davenport got a citation for it. I guess he rolled down the window and weed smoke came out, then thru all that the cop could spot the gun with an illegal clip.
I'm glad he got arrested because nobody needs this trash rolling the streets but this is also why nobody likes the cops. I haven't really heard a crime or a reason why they were even pulled over. Oh it was double parked...damn it.
The I smell weed thing is the way they can search your car, even when they lie. Pulling someone over for tint is the way to make the world a better place. There should be a special tint team on duty at all times.
Quote from: animal on Jul 08, 2024, 06:25 AMComments talking about how they can't prove Pot Smell in court so it cannot be used as probable cause for a search. The gun was in plain sight but the windows were so tinted that Davenport got a citation for it. I guess he rolled down the window and weed smoke came out, then thru all that the cop could spot the gun with an illegal clip.
I'm glad he got arrested because nobody needs this trash rolling the streets but this is also why nobody likes the cops. I haven't really heard a crime or a reason why they were even pulled over. Oh it was double parked...damn it.
Shame on the cops for investigating a car parked illegally which lead to finding more illegal activities. Why do cops have to do their jobs!
You sound like the black community that says they are harassing black people by giving them speeding tickets and such while making a presence to deter crime.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jul 08, 2024, 09:05 AMShame on the cops for investigating a car parked illegally which lead to finding more illegal activities. Why do cops have to do their jobs!
You sound like the black community that says they are harassing black people by giving them speeding tickets and such while making a presence to deter crime.
But, but, he was one of ours!!! ::)
such serious criminal activity he was released on his own recognizance.
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1811047238212153590
we got a lot of guards.
Quote from: vegashog on Jul 10, 2024, 11:52 AMwe got a lot of guards.
The roster shows only 3 guards: Boogie Fland, D.J. Wagner, Johnell Davis.
Quote from: verro on Jul 10, 2024, 01:39 PMThe roster shows only 3 guards: Boogie Fland, D.J. Wagner, Johnell Davis.
Billy Richmond I think is a guard and a couple pickups from the last couple weeks. So we'll have like 5 or so.
Did I read where this Richmond kid is the son or some how related to former NBA guard Mitch Richmond? I think I read that.
Don't believe he's Mitch's kid but his dad did play for Cal (Memphis?).
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jul 10, 2024, 04:55 PMDon't believe he's Mitch's kid but his dad did play for Cal (Memphis?).
Yep, his dad is also named Billy Richmond.
with the new additions we have 6 listed as guards. i just think it's a lot, but with 'position less' bball i guess it doesn't really matter.
only have 4 guys 6'8" or taller.
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/article/arkansas-basketball-roster-official-additions-melo-sanchez-jaden-karuletwa-ayden-kelly-kareem-watkins-233728283/
So the Arkansas TBT team lost to something called Eberline Drive
That's your summer time sports up date for all things Arkansas.
(I guess I put this in the baseball thread first).
I have been seeing clips of Cal coaching em up.
Is "first practice in mid-October" and "no contact in the off-season" not a thing any more? Now that they're basically full-time professionals?c
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jul 26, 2024, 06:54 AM(I guess I put this in the baseball thread first).
I have been seeing clips of Cal coaching em up.
Is "first practice in mid-October" and "no contact in the off-season" not a thing any more? Now that they're basically full-time professionals?c
I think these summer time workouts are more about team drills and individual development drills. Probably has some base scheme mixed in so It just looks like a practice. Perhaps they have relaxed those old rules.
I think last summer Devo was working on his jab most of the summer and that worked out wonderfully.
Quote from: animal on Jul 26, 2024, 07:05 AMI think last summer Devo was working on his jab most of the summer and that worked out wonderfully.
Pelvic jab?
teams get eight weeks of staff run practice over the summer. eight hours a week, four hours a week for 'skills development'. of course those pick up games at the hper don't count.
also, darius acuff the #1 pg commits later today. hogs seem to be in pretty good shape.
Acuff is coming to play for the good guys :><:
Sweet
We might be good, we might be not good, but we certainly won't lack talent. Now to see if they can actually play basketball together.
I think Cal has the fire back and that is really good for us.
https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1817956771572613589?t=aFC3_qXr_KC6_lBeAGftzA&s=19 (https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1817956771572613589?t=aFC3_qXr_KC6_lBeAGftzA&s=19)
https://x.com/EthWestNWA/status/1817947027466080465?t=VlF6VcaRV71J1xg_wLi_Qg&s=19 (https://x.com/EthWestNWA/status/1817947027466080465?t=VlF6VcaRV71J1xg_wLi_Qg&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jul 29, 2024, 11:52 AMhttps://x.com/EthWestNWA/status/1817947027466080465?t=VlF6VcaRV71J1xg_wLi_Qg&s=19 (https://x.com/EthWestNWA/status/1817947027466080465?t=VlF6VcaRV71J1xg_wLi_Qg&s=19)
No suprise there, the did the same thing when butch davis was coaching the browns.
Old Tyson logo (without the foods) looks better though
cal presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3SQVposd5E
fland, thiero and brazile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvMUrLbkqe8
I like the part where he said that Brazile and Big Z won't be shooting any threes this year and will focus on inside play instead.
He also said they're looking for one more non-conference game, either in BWA or possibly in Dallas.
Still psyched that Darius Acuff chose us over Kansas and Kentucky. I thought the jellycat fans said their "brand" would recruit for them.
I guess I just haven't come to terms with the idea of actually having a point guard, much less the top PG recruit in the country.
https://collegehoopstoday.net/rothstein-files/sec-discussing-going-to-20-games-during-2025-26-season/
Did you catch the hint that a game with Gonzaga could be in the works?
When will we find out about tickets for the Michigan game in MSG on Dec 10th? We are looking to make the trip up for that one. Going to spend a few days in NYC.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jul 30, 2024, 11:46 AMWhen will we find out about tickets for the Michigan game in MSG on Dec 10th? We are looking to make the trip up for that one. Going to spend a few days in NYC.
Same. Let me know if you here anything.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Jul 30, 2024, 11:16 AMDid you catch the hint that a game with Gonzaga could be in the works?
Yes
Sounded like he wants that to happen
Quote from: animal on Jul 30, 2024, 01:31 PMYes
Sounded like he wants that to happen
Wow. Quite the change from playing Prairie View A&M and Southwestern OK States of the world.
Quote from: Guardrail on Jul 31, 2024, 08:40 AMWow. Quite the change from playing Prairie View A&M and Southwestern OK States of the world.
Those are just regional schools. Cal doesn't schedule regional schools.
Quote from: Guardrail on Jul 31, 2024, 08:40 AMWow. Quite the change from playing Prairie View A&M and Southwestern OK States of the world.
We did just schedule a game with North Carolina................A&T.
Jersey numbers released. Brazile paying tribute.
IMG_3425.jpeg
4 should be taken out of circulation.
Quote from: Gambler on Aug 02, 2024, 11:28 AM4 should be taken out of circulation.
Dontell Jefferson say what?
We got another one in the till. Casmir Chavis from Minnesota, previously signed with Washington but was released from his LOI.
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/casmir-chavis-inks-with-razorbacks/
https://insidearkansas.com/arkansas-basketball-sec-schedule/
That's a helluva first week in February.
For some reason that link no longer works.
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1825964139027771533
Tough first 3
Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 20, 2024, 08:04 PMTough first 3
Yeah glad 2/3 are at home. Crowd should be rocking
I thought it was a conference rule that we could only play Florida away in Football and Basketball
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Aug 21, 2024, 06:07 AMI thought it was a conference rule that we could only play Florida away in Football and Basketball
That was pre-Cal
Quote from: Pig Benis on Aug 20, 2024, 07:11 PMFor some reason that link no longer works.
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1825964139027771533
so is this ball on the periphery an upside down Horn logo?
Quote from: Cerdo on Aug 22, 2024, 07:34 AMso is this ball on the periphery an upside down Horn logo?
Good catch.
I applaud the hustle if it was intentional.
Sometime back around Petrino our attitude towards marketing got more aggressive. Seems like the troll efforts stepped up during Bert.
Whatever the reason, I love it.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 22, 2024, 07:41 AMI applaud the hustle if it was intentional.
It's the only one upside down
Can't have a good game on the field at least be competitive in the meme wars
Why is Alabama (Feb 8 ) listed above Texas (Feb 4/5)?
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Aug 22, 2024, 12:42 PMWhy is Alabama (Feb 8 ) listed above Texas (Feb 4/5)?
It was either work on the graphics or work on the order of the dates. They chose correctly.
First week test
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1827117684607107304
Anyone missing Muss?
I appreciate everything Muss did here. That said, the way he handled last year and bolting the way he did says a lot about his character.
Cal is gonna bring in top talent and I think he has a chip on his shoulder from how things unfolded in KY. I'm ready for the season to get here.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 24, 2024, 07:56 AMAnyone missing Muss?
We might be once we get into post season play. In fairness to Muss I also think maybe he was being treated by the money people like he had hit his ceiling and I think there was good reason to feel that way based on his repeatedly getting out coached over the last several months of play.
Whatever philosophy Muss was bringing to the table (such as game prep NBA style) had been rendered largely obsolete by other teams in the SEC adopting similar concepts with better athletes. It always comes down to who has the better athletes/players. Muss had some really good teams that outplayed other team's really good players but eventually that was not able to be overcome. It appeared to be consistently less and less effective.
And to paraphrase Muss they couldn't find him the money to build a roster but they found it for the next guy. I think that spoke volumes to what actually happened. That money wouldn't be here without the kind of clout that Cal brings to the table and will likely remain while he's coaching at the UA. I don't see Tyson pulling out his support so quickly if Cal turns in a turd of a season. The two are somewhat tied to the hip now.
Our AD is largely ineffective at hiring coaches and/or raising money on his own which is a bit concerning but if we're being honest most ADs are not rock stars that make panties drop and money flow from the heavens at least not so out in the open. HY had about as much hand in the hiring of Cal as Long did Petrino.
Quote from: Rocket City Hawg on Aug 23, 2024, 07:12 PMFirst week test
https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1827117684607107304
I just noticed that's a bye week for football so it should be a pretty good crowd.
If nothing else, Cal has massively upgraded our scheduling.
Quote from: animal on Aug 24, 2024, 08:25 AMWe might be once we get into post season play. In fairness to Muss I also think maybe he was being treated by the money people like he had hit his ceiling and I think there was good reason to feel that way based on his repeatedly getting out coached over the last several months of play.
Whatever philosophy Muss was bringing to the table (such as game prep NBA style) had been rendered largely obsolete by other teams in the SEC adopting similar concepts with better athletes. It always comes down to who has the better athletes/players. Muss had some really good teams that outplayed other team's really good players but eventually that was not able to be overcome. It appeared to be consistently less and less effective.
And to paraphrase Muss they couldn't find him the money to build a roster but they found it for the next guy. I think that spoke volumes to what actually happened. That money wouldn't be here without the kind of clout that Cal brings to the table and will likely remain while he's coaching at the UA. I don't see Tyson pulling out his support so quickly if Cal turns in a turd of a season. The two are somewhat tied to the hip now.
Our AD is largely ineffective at hiring coaches and/or raising money on his own which is a bit concerning but if we're being honest most ADs are not rock stars that make panties drop and money flow from the heavens at least not so out in the open. HY had about as much hand in the hiring of Cal as Long did Petrino.
Muss got us right but he is good for 3 years before he wears EVERYONE down - staff, admins, boosters, players, etc. He has no on/off switch thus the short shelf life. That's who is his and the cycle will continue at USC and beyond.
his best staff was his first staff and when they left it began to sink. Last year was a disaster and it was like Pittman was doing the player evals - big swing and misses.
Cal needed a change of scenery, a reset, and this was the perfect landing spot. However it wouldn't have been possible if Muss hadn't had that run of Elite Eights.
Muss is good at building a roster. That's it.
Chemistry sucked. Offensive philosophy was mediocre, defense was mediocre.
He underachieved in the regular season with the talent he had.
Before we go sucking him off for 3 sweet sixteens, winning two games in a row isn't rocket science. Yeah, we hadn't done that since '96, but sucking in the past is not justification for praise when you finally don't suck.
Muss is a terrible "college" basketball coach.
i think we should wait and see how many of these marquee matchups we actually win before we start shitting too hard on the last guy.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 24, 2024, 02:14 PMMuss is a terrible "college" basketball coach.
::)
The 3 year shelf life turned out to be pretty true, fans of his precious stops were voicing the same things.
That said, there's no Cal without Muss. He put us back on the map and he has my gratitude.
Quote from: piglosopher on Aug 24, 2024, 08:04 PMThat said, there's no Cal without Muss. He put us back on the map and he has my gratitude.
This. We were an afterthought. And then we made the Elite 8. And then we did it again and followed the second up with another Sweet 16.
Quote from: Lurk on Aug 24, 2024, 02:40 PM::)
Doesn't make my statement any less true.
three 5* are supposed to be visiting sept. 13-14.
meleek thomas (#9, #2 guard), chris cenak jr (#16, #1 center), and koa peat (#5, #2 forward).
Quote from: vegashog on Aug 25, 2024, 06:15 PMthree 5* are supposed to be visiting sept. 13-14.
meleek thomas (#9, #2 guard), chris cenak jr (#16, #1 center), and koa peat (#5, #2 forward).
Sounds like it may just be Thomas and Peat now.
I'd love to get Cenac, Wilson and Thomas. That would be the best class in Hog history.
Quote from: vegashog on Aug 25, 2024, 06:15 PMkoa peat
sounds like fuel for your stove at the campground
You mean Cal isn't hitting the hotbed of talent in Jacksonville to find another Devo?
Just kidding, Devo. Don't get all butthurt. It was a joke.
Quote from: egregious on Aug 25, 2024, 06:27 PMsounds like fuel for your stove at the campground
:D
Yes it does. Sold at the campground office for $10 per.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 24, 2024, 02:14 PMMuss is a terrible "college" basketball coach.
He certainly tried to coach a pro-style game. And his offense depended on getting lots of foul shots, while his defense gave up plenty of fouls. I hopefully will be able to see a game with 2 or 4 possessions in a row without fouls under Cal.
Quote from: jdcatty on Aug 26, 2024, 08:00 AMHe certainly tried to coach a pro-style game. And his offense depended on getting lots of foul shots, while his defense gave up plenty of fouls. I hopefully will be able to see a game with 2 or 4 possessions in a row without fouls under Cal.
I certainly appreciate Lurks viewpoint. Muss did put teams on the floor that won a lot of games.
Maybe "terrible" is too strong of a word to use. I definitely don't like his approach to the college game though and am excited to see what Cal can do.
I think Muss kind of fell in love with the smell of his own farts. By that I mean there was a bit of huberious in how he was supposedly building like Billy Beane type analysis. This guy is a high foul shooter, that guy draws a lot of charges and this guy rebounds like an animal on the offensive end but plays like Tiffany on defense...that kind of thing.
I wish Muss nothing but the best.
I never really believed in him but he gave us some banners to hang from March. Which we hadn't had in 30 years.
I'll pull for him at USC if I ever run into a game on the tube.
Now, if we'd hired Mark Pope I'd probably hate his ass like Kentucky does Calipari.
the comments about muss and 'pro style' offense are interesting because cal was criticized by kentucky fans (long before he came to arkansas), because he tailored his game in order to maximize his player's exposure to the nba style to help get them drafted.
maybe he'll change his approach, but neither he or muss are alone in playing a next level style offense.
Quote from: vegashog on Aug 26, 2024, 09:59 AMthe comments about muss and 'pro style' offense are interesting because cal was criticized by kentucky fans (long before he came to arkansas), because he tailored his game in order to maximize his player's exposure to the nba style to help get them drafted.
maybe he'll change his approach, but neither he or muss are alone in playing a next level style offense.
I do wish Cal would've brought the guy who coached their offense last season. Think he went back to the west coast somewhere. Can't remember his name but they were really good offensively last year.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Aug 26, 2024, 11:05 AMI do wish Cal would've brought the guy who coached their offense last season. Think he went back to the west coast somewhere. Can't remember his name but they were really good offensively last year.
I think you are talking about Orlando Antigua. He joined Illinois' staff.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 25, 2024, 06:25 PMI'd love to get Cenac, Wilson and Thomas. That would be the best class in Hog history.
With Darius Acuff already in the fold.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Aug 26, 2024, 11:53 AMI think you are talking about Orlando Antigua. He joined Illinois' staff.
John Welch
https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article287213775.html
The Nov 9 game against Baylor in Dallas intrigues me. Might want to go. Does anyone know when tickets will go on sale?
Quote from: jdcatty on Aug 26, 2024, 03:12 PMThe Nov 9 game against Baylor in Dallas intrigues me. Might want to go. Does anyone know when tickets will go on sale?
No, but if I'm not in some other country I plan to go.
Same. I will not miss that game.
Did they list a date for the scrimmage in Hot Springs?
Can we just skip forward to early November?
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1828933389082366230?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
Build the man his statue.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 28, 2024, 06:51 PMBuild the man his statue.
WORD.
His accomplishments have only shown brighter over time.
I can't imagine being so young that the Nolan in that video is all I can picture.
He used to be a huge imposing statue of a man. He was the perfect image of Arkansas. Chip on the shoulder, counted out, but in reality was a winner.
It makes me smile seeing him in the gym with the Hogs.
Heaven does not await anyone who has fought against building that man a statue. I seem to remember some pushback against putting his name on other court without doing something equal for Sutton... start by tossing all of those people into a deep river.
And fucking build it before he dies so he can see it, be there for the dedication ceremony, etc.
in some other pics posted, big z and aidoo are both in boots. hopefully not a huge deal.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Aug 28, 2024, 06:30 PMCan we just skip forward to early November?
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1828933389082366230?s=46&t=VKUX0KEsVDEwvBGk5nonyA
That was beautiful.
Thanks Coach!
Nolan should have a statue. And the court. And his teams videos playing all the time. 40 minutes of hell is right out of the same book JFB used. Nolan used it at utep, JFB at Arkansas. Conditioning, speed, brains, crazy defense.
Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 29, 2024, 08:12 AMNolan should have a statue. And the court. And his teams videos playing all the time. 40 minutes of hell is right out of the same book JFB used. Nolan used it at utep, JFB at Arkansas. Conditioning, speed, brains, crazy defense.
Those are bygone days now...I don't think "programs" can be replicated like that when the rosters turn over each year.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 24, 2024, 08:24 AMI appreciate everything Muss did here. That said, the way he handled last year and bolting the way he did says a lot about his character.
Cal is gonna bring in top talent and I think he has a chip on his shoulder from how things unfolded in KY. I'm ready for the season to get here.
Man I liked Muss...but I feel like he showed himself early...losing his shirt...bitching at fans in Maui.....etc...he just is what he is
I've been saying it for a while, we needed to have a coach move on from successful seasons rather than on bad terms or lack of success. Even though not necessarily green pastures imo for Muss, he left us in a good spot and the stars were aligned with Cal. Just think if Nolan had retired and all that never happened. Would be nice if this was Cals last stop and he went out with a bang.
Oh my!
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1831471113886691478?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
I'll take what I can get but why not make this an actual home-away series? We still don't have a marquee non-conference home game this year. Besides Oakland, obviously.
I think he will add a decent home non conference game this year. Schedule isn't aet.
I don't think we need a marquee "name" at BWA for this season's non conf schedule. We have plenty high profile games on the road and at neutral sites (Baylor, Illinois, Miami, Michigan). That's already a tough slate and throw in the SEC opponents, we should be set. It's not like we are breaking in a no name coach and 2 star players and are struggling to generate excitement. ;D
this late it might be a little difficult to get a big time name. i bet we some good home & homes for next season.
looks like there's a two week window between uca and oakland that we could squeeze a game or two in.
https://x.com/sourpigsss/status/1832998127864873424
sure didn't know we had anything like this going on with Muss
Muss is uber liberal. Does this surprise anyone?
Quote from: BASS on Sep 09, 2024, 10:02 AMMuss is uber liberal. Does this surprise anyone?
Yes, I always heard he was very liberal. I guess the only thing that surprises me about it is that we haven't heard this before now, at least that I know of.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 09, 2024, 09:57 AMhttps://x.com/sourpigsss/status/1832998127864873424
sure didn't know we had anything like this going on with Muss
He was woke so that sounds about right.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 04, 2024, 06:38 PMOh my!
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1831471113886691478?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Went to Razorback Foundation happy hour in Tulsa Friday night. Game is confirmed for Friday, 10/25. Will be on ESPN
Wasn't there an SEC/NCAA stipulation around not being able to play if you tested positive for Covid and were not vaccinated?
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 09, 2024, 09:57 AMhttps://x.com/sourpigsss/status/1832998127864873424
sure didn't know we had anything like this going on with Muss
I think his tendency to turn the ball over repeatedly and take (and miss) lots of wild shots at inopportune times had a lot more to do with his playing time than his vax status.
He was a hell of a free throw shooter though.
Quote from: abnormal hog on Sep 09, 2024, 03:28 PMWent to Razorback Foundation happy hour in Tulsa Friday night. Game is confirmed for Friday, 10/25. Will be on ESPN
Was anyone autographing boxer shorts?
https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1833307125738533044?t=uD_xVqdlObTJtLweCBGA4g&s=19 (https://x.com/JacksonCollier/status/1833307125738533044?t=uD_xVqdlObTJtLweCBGA4g&s=19)
Nolan Richardson is a living legend.
I love watching his hall of fame speech "Bird! Bird! Damn that brother can play!"
He had Bird grinning, Magic and Russell laughing. Even that little shrew David Stern cracked a grin.
He was bigger than life and he was ours. No disrespect to Eddie, but he defined our program and our brand. Even to this day pundits and announcers talk about 40 minutes of hell.
His teams were beautiful to watch. Their runs an adrenaline rush I've not felt since. They kept pouring it on. The Missouri team they beat 120-68 in 1994 went to the Elite 8!
Seeing him with Cal let's me know Cal gets it. Cals a genius and it's 2 college basketball godfathers that respect each other.
I'm 51 years old and I thank God I got to see it all live. My sister was a little too young and I hate it for her.
If ever a statue was erected for anyone ever in the state of Arkansas they didn't deserve it as much as Nolan Richardson.
Damn it University of Arkansas do the right thing and retire Dmacs jersey and honor Nolan.
And like the poster said anyone who has an issue with that can meet Red Death at any Sonic they choose.
So I did this today (and tomorrow). Outside of the unsatisfying pain in both legs, it's been an awesome experience. Will definitely do it again.
#16 next to Cal. The tall black guy just to the right of half court (2nd row) is Cardale Jones. Pretty good hooper. Bobby Bones is playing as well.
https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1834331107468476646?t=hFA5D60OtVgPbHzA7lh2vQ&s=19 (https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1834331107468476646?t=hFA5D60OtVgPbHzA7lh2vQ&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 12, 2024, 06:56 PMSo I did this today (and tomorrow). Outside of the unsatisfying pain in both legs, it's been an awesome experience. Will definitely do it again.
#16 next to Cal. The tall black guy just to the right of half court (2nd row) is Cardale Jones. Pretty good hooper. Bobby Bones is playing as well.
https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1834331107468476646?t=hFA5D60OtVgPbHzA7lh2vQ&s=19 (https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1834331107468476646?t=hFA5D60OtVgPbHzA7lh2vQ&s=19)
#47...is that Cerdo?
is the dude on right blatantly paying off the ref?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Sep 12, 2024, 09:16 PM#47...is that Cerdo?
That's actually Jordan Wright of Wright's BBQ. Who knows, he may go by Cerdo. I'll see if I get a response tomorrow.
I thought Muss was pretty damned good with social media, etc. I think Calipari is better:
Corey, Kareem Reid, Joe, Eddibs, Bradley, Day, Butch Morris, and Clyde Fletcher were all there today. As was Nolan.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 12, 2024, 10:14 PMCorey, Kareem Reid, Joe, Eddibs, Bradley, Day, Butch Morris, and Clyde Fletcher were all there today. As was Nolan.
That's awesome! What a once in a lifetime experience that was. I imagine it was surreal to be there, and see Coach Richardson and Coach Cal there together.
We ended up winning the championship! Got to cut down the nets at BWA.
We were down 15 at the half in the semifinal and fought back and won in OT against Cardale Jones's team. I had a stretch in the 2nd half of the final where I hit a 3 on three straight possessions to take us from down 4 to up 5. We were able to keep the lead and close it out. Had a blast!
That's awesome!!! I wish I could still play at that level.
I'm still paying for it. Legs are killing me.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 14, 2024, 09:55 PMWe ended up winning the championship! Got to cut down the nets at BWA.
We were down 15 at the half in the semifinal and fought back and won in OT against Cardale Jones's team. I had a stretch in the 2nd half of the final where I hit a 3 on three straight possessions to take us from down 4 to up 5. We were able to keep the lead and close it out. Had a blast!
Steph Curry over here. That sounds awesome man, way to rep the woopussy haha.
Anybody going to be in NYC to for the Michigan game at MSG in December?
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 16, 2024, 02:28 PMAnybody going to be in NYC to for the Michigan game at MSG in December?
Yes. Train, hotel, shows and other fun booked. Waiting on tickets to the game to go on sale. We're arriving the 9th and leaving the 15th.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Sep 16, 2024, 02:47 PMYes. Train, hotel, shows and other fun booked. Waiting on tickets to the game to go on sale. We're arriving the 9th and leaving the 15th.
I'm thinking about arranging a "work trip" that week, that way travel and lodging will be covered. Our corp office is in lower Manhattan, but I can get to the office easily from anywhere if I stay around midtown. Hog bball and some Korean food around the block from the Garden before the game sounds fantastic.
Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 16, 2024, 03:05 PMI'm thinking about arranging a "work trip" that week, that way travel and lodging will be covered. Our corp office is in lower Manhattan, but I can get to the office easily from anywhere if I stay around midtown. Hog bball and some Korean food around the block from the Garden before the game sounds fantastic.
It will definitely be nice to have the hotel paid for. Prices in NY in December are double the normal high prices.
I have stayed here a lot over the years with my daughter at Columbia. It is nice, clean, and about a block from the subway. The Beacon Theater next door has had a few good acts over the years. I saw Tedeschi Trucks' band there a few years ago. (looks like they are playing again there for two shows Sep 24-25).
https://seatgeek.com/venues/beacon-theatre/tickets?aid=34&pid=731127783&gid=39934304604&rid=kwd-161830578&dt=c&ap=&adId=391613652886&loc_interest=9004076&loc_physical=1013268&n=g&mt=b&ext=&xid=1&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrp-3BhDgARIsAEWJ6SzWVo7GwI_h6XIBeniif-SwlgpK8CZp08QnbQh2ehvhYziso90TD_kaAvI0EALw_wcB
It's not too expensive. Most rooms have a kitchenette, and there is a supermarket across the street if you want snacks or to eat in. Several good restaurants are within walking distance. The Beacon bar is nothing fancy but solid. A liquor store is less than a block away.
I like the Upper West Side.
https://www.beaconhotel.com/rooms/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrp-3BhDgARIsAEWJ6SxAP889COJt4nCW8bw8h3ugd6yqwsPdhpxzYcYGrEJXQmssPPab-JIaApoVEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Here's December's rates.
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Quote from: Spiderham on Sep 16, 2024, 09:59 PMI have stayed here a lot over the years with my daughter at Columbia. It is nice, clean, and about a block from the subway. The Beacon Theater next door has had a few good acts over the years. I saw Tedeschi Trucks' band there a few years ago. (looks like they are playing again there for two shows Sep 24-25).
https://seatgeek.com/venues/beacon-theatre/tickets?aid=34&pid=731127783&gid=39934304604&rid=kwd-161830578&dt=c&ap=&adId=391613652886&loc_interest=9004076&loc_physical=1013268&n=g&mt=b&ext=&xid=1&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrp-3BhDgARIsAEWJ6SzWVo7GwI_h6XIBeniif-SwlgpK8CZp08QnbQh2ehvhYziso90TD_kaAvI0EALw_wcB
It's not too expensive. Most rooms have a kitchenette, and there is a supermarket across the street if you want snacks or to eat in. Several good restaurants are within walking distance. The Beacon bar is nothing fancy but solid. A liquor store is less than a block away.
I like the Upper West Side.
https://www.beaconhotel.com/rooms/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrp-3BhDgARIsAEWJ6SxAP889COJt4nCW8bw8h3ugd6yqwsPdhpxzYcYGrEJXQmssPPab-JIaApoVEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Here's December's rates.
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Great suggestion. That's a very handy location! Sounds like it's close to Museum of Natural History, too.
We ended up getting a room at this place. https://www.kixby.com/
The reviews looked good and it is VERY close to MSG and the train. We know the rooms are going to be small. We just want something that is clean and we don't have to fight through a homeless encampment to get into the lobby. I'm hoping that is what we got.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 12, 2024, 09:50 PMI thought Muss was pretty damned good with social media, etc. I think Calipari is better:
Muss is good at promoting himself. It worked while he was here and while he was passionate about it, but they were always more about their personal brand than the Arkansas brand.
Squad
Action shot
I had my fair share of misses!
Pre season info...
https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1836389558717465062?t=LbxX7qbafH76kZMp_fWmWQ&s=19 (https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1836389558717465062?t=LbxX7qbafH76kZMp_fWmWQ&s=19)
Crazy how close we are to basketball season. Man the time flies by fast the older I get.
I was able to attend a practice last week. We've got a lot of speed and toughness. Cal seems to want us to play fast. We have a lot of length and athleticism inside. Even with 9 prinary players, he has a lot of options.
All 3 freshmen looked good. Even better than I expected. Thierro is a beast. If he develops a consistent 3pt shot, he's gonna make a ton of money. Big Z is huge and looked better than I expected as well. Really shoots it well and is tough to score on inside.
Team seems to be willing passers. Saw a lot of extra passes to get a better shot.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 18, 2024, 10:32 AMI was able to attend a practice last week. We've got a lot of speed and toughness. Cal seems to want us to play fast. We have a lot of length and athleticism inside. Even with 9 prinary players, he has a lot of options.
All 3 freshmen looked good. Even better than I expected. Thierro is a beast. If he develops a consistent 3pt shot, he's gonna make a ton of money. Big Z is huge and looked better than I expected as well. Really shoots it well and is tough to score on inside.
Team seems to be willing passers. Saw a lot of extra passes to get a better shot.
good report, thanks
hog will play an intersquad game in hot springs on 10/12.
another one in pine bluff the next day.
Muss's twitter got haxxored
arkansas hosting kansas in an exhibition game 10/25. time and tv will be announced later.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 01:06 PMhog will play an intersquad game in hot springs on 10/12.
another one in pine bluff the next day.
I remember when the Razorbacks played one in Bentonvilles new gym, early/mid 70's
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 04:05 PMarkansas hosting kansas in an exhibition game 10/25. time and tv will be announced later.
I believe someone on here said it was announced at the Tulsa Razorback Club that it would be televised by ESPN.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Sep 18, 2024, 04:52 PMI believe someone on here said it was announced at the Tulsa Razorback Club that it would be televised by ESPN.
hope so. it was officially announced today, and tv and time was tbd.
also it was planned that proceeds to go to nil, but now it's a charity each school chooses.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 05:04 PMalso it was planned that proceeds to go to nil, but now it's a charity each school chooses.
HY be out front :
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/26/24/a62624828a635b0ebc2d6ab69b780099.jpg)
Quote from: Pig Benis on Sep 18, 2024, 04:52 PMI believe someone on here said it was announced at the Tulsa Razorback Club that it would be televised by ESPN.
That is what Ryan White (Executive Director of the Razorback Foundation), told me. I guess we'll see.....
I know cal isn't the best x and o guy, but i still think he's got a lot more value than most pundits claim; i like the make up of the team...hope it translates well to the floor
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Sep 19, 2024, 11:03 AMI know cal isn't the best x and o guy, but i still think he's got a lot more value than most pundits claim; i like the make up of the team...hope it translates well to the floor
I agree. He's perfect for us at this point in time. I'm excited to see the team. I have a feeling Thiero may be a beast this year. If he is we should be pretty damn good.
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Sep 19, 2024, 11:03 AMI know cal isn't the best x and o guy, but i still think he's got a lot more value than most pundits claim; i like the make up of the team...hope it translates well to the floor
He mentioned changing things up a bit but will still be heavy on dribble drive. This team should be able to score AND defend at a high level.
I thought it was interesting that Seth Greenberg and Jerry Wainwright both commented that Cal looks like the Cal of old. Greenberg said Cal hasn't looked this happy in years.
Nov 1 exhibition vs TCU in Ft Worth and Nov 9 neutral site vs Baylor at the AAC
I'll be there and I bet DFW area recruits there will be shocked at the Hog crowds, hoping the next Black or Walsh are around
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Sep 21, 2024, 02:02 PMNov 1 exhibition vs TCU in Ft Worth and Nov 9 neutral site vs Baylor at the AAC
I'll be there and I bet DFW area recruits there will be shocked at the Hog crowds, hoping the next Black or Walsh are around
Is this who I think it is?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 21, 2024, 02:54 PMIs this who I think it is?
Yeah, haven't been around much. Too much going on at work and home.
I got a notice from the Arkansas Edge thing that tickets to the Kansas Exhibition game can be bought now. Don't know if they are on sale anywhere else.
Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 24, 2024, 01:01 PMI got a notice from the Arkansas Edge thing that tickets to the Kansas Exhibition game can be bought now. Don't know if they are on sale anywhere else.
early access for edge members only. this is the kind of thing they need to be doing.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 24, 2024, 01:26 PMearly access for edge members only. this is the kind of thing they need to be doing.
Pretty sure regular foundations peeps have already had options in tickets
You are correct. Still not a bad thing to offer NIL donors prior to general release.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 24, 2024, 05:08 PMYou are correct. Still not a bad thing to offer NIL donors prior to general release.
I agree. I can't go, but if anyone wants me to grab a couple of tickets for them, I will be glad to. I bet they go quick when they hit the public.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Sep 24, 2024, 04:55 PMPretty sure regular foundations peeps have already had options in tickets
Got mine last week in the same spot as my regular seats.
Tickets for the Jimmy V Classic in MSG have been purchased.
If anyone wants to get in, the presale code is victoryovercancer on TicketMaster.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Sep 25, 2024, 11:30 AMTickets for the Jimmy V Classic in MSG have been purchased.
If anyone wants to get in, the presale code is victoryovercancer on TicketMaster.
:beer: :beer:
Appreciate the heads up! Tickets purchased.
x
per a cal tweet, the kansas exhibition is a sell out.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1840774586230820926?t=vW4qfXSM8L60wJHQ-2EUYw&s=19 (https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1840774586230820926?t=vW4qfXSM8L60wJHQ-2EUYw&s=19)
You'd think the tickets would actually be on sale before they announced this.
ORDER FOR RAZORBACK MEN'S BASKETBALL TIP OFF TOUR
Razorback Men's Basketball Tip Off Tour is not currently on sale online.
You can visit the event information page for more info.
You can buy tickets. Click the link in X.
Tickets for the Baylor game in Dallas go on sale tomorrow.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2024, 05:39 PMTickets for the Baylor game in Dallas go on sale tomorrow.
Thought it was Thursday??
Err: General tickets go on sale Thursday.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 30, 2024, 05:07 PMYou can buy tickets. Click the link in X.
The link in twitter leads to that web page contains the above message.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2024, 05:39 PMTickets for the Baylor game in Dallas go on sale tomorrow.
Can us plebes buy those or do you need to answer the call first.
Quote from: Lurk on Sep 30, 2024, 06:31 PMThe link in twitter leads to that web page contains the above message.
Link took me there with option to buy.
I'm going to try the Arkansas link at 10 AM when they go on sale, really want good seats close to the Ark bench if I can get them.
Quote from: Third_down_draw on Sep 30, 2024, 07:08 PMCan us plebes buy those or do you need to answer the call first.
Answer the call = tomorrow
Plebes = Thursday
Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 30, 2024, 07:54 PMLink took me there with option to buy.
Pine Bluff? I can get to the Hot Springs tickets but not PB.
Quote from: Lurk on Sep 30, 2024, 09:33 PMPine Bluff? I can get to the Hot Springs tickets but not PB.
Just the htl link, pb did what you said.
Do we have a complete schedule yet?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/8/arkansas-razorbacks
No game scheduled between Dec 14 and Jan 4 is no bueno
Also the schedule maker did Ark no favors with the conference road games.
Quote from: olive_branch_hog on Oct 01, 2024, 10:01 AMNo game scheduled between Dec 14 and Jan 4 is no bueno
didn't get in any of the holiday tournaments. maybe squeeze a game in, but this late, it probably won't be against anyone good.
We play UNC A&T on the 21st and Oakland on the 30th. Unless you meant no quality games were scheduled.
Quote from: flash23 on Oct 01, 2024, 10:09 AMWe play UNC A&T on the 21st and Oakland on the 30th. Unless you meant no quality games were scheduled.
Ok...those are not showing on the ESPN schedule linked above
Weird. I got them off of hogstats, so maybe they just haven't been officially announced yet?
Quote from: flash23 on Oct 01, 2024, 10:26 AMWeird. I got them off of hogstats, so maybe they just haven't been officially announced yet?
For some reason they haven't announced the official schedule yet. Not sure what the hold up is.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 01, 2024, 11:48 AMFor some reason they haven't announced the official schedule yet. Not sure what the hold up is.
Trying to find a date for the Pacific game is my guess.
cal can talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg8VZ1E53As
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1841481912709484845
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Oct 02, 2024, 09:21 AMhttps://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1841481912709484845
they're not going to put back the Slobber Hog.
they're not going to put back the Slobber Hog.
they're not going to put back the Slobber Hog.
I have to keep saying it so I won't be disappointed.
They better. As long as they get rid of the generic state outline in the middle of the court, I'll be happy. Everyone does it. Arkansas High in Texarkana has done it since before UA did so that's what it always reminds me of, a high school floor.
Just no Tyson or Walmart logos like we have on the football field now, please.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Oct 02, 2024, 09:58 AMJust no Tyson or Walmart logos like we have on the football field now, please.
there's going to be some tyson stuff. if it's on the football field, it will probably be on the court. he didn't pay for sponsorship and not use it.
i think i read that licensing agreements keep the slobber hog from coming back.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 10:04 AMi think i read that licensing agreements keep the slobber hog from coming back.
If true it's the most "U of A" thing I've read today.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 02, 2024, 10:50 AMIf true it's the most "U of A" thing I've read today.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 10:04 AMthere's going to be some tyson stuff. if it's on the football field, it will probably be on the court. he didn't pay for sponsorship and not use it.
i think i read that licensing agreements keep the slobber hog from coming back.
I'd like to know the story behind that.
it's not an official school logo any longer (not sure it ever was). the front facing hog became the official secondary logo as part of an agreement with nike.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 11:04 AMit's not an official school logo any longer (not sure it ever was). the front facing hog became the official secondary logo as part of an agreement with nike.
I hate that logo and refuse to wear anything with that dumb warthog on it.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 11:04 AMit's not an official school logo any longer (not sure it ever was). the front facing hog became the official secondary logo as part of an agreement with nike.
Wouldn't be surprised if the state is replaced with the front facing hog.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 11:04 AMit's not an official school logo any longer (not sure it ever was). the front facing hog became the official secondary logo as part of an agreement with nike.
:thumb_up: I thought somebody else had slipped in and trademarked it or something.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 02, 2024, 11:13 AMI hate that logo and refuse to wear anything with that dumb warthog on it.
Same. Frick that warthog.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 11:04 AMit's not an official school logo any longer (not sure it ever was). the front facing hog became the official secondary logo as part of an agreement with nike.
Jeff Long STRIKES AGAIN!!!
Quote from: Barton Fink on Sep 30, 2024, 08:25 PMAnswer the call = tomorrow
Plebes = Thursday
Who got some of these tickets? $100+ for nosebleed on the resale market so I am guessing $50-$60 face value
Think lowest price was $79 prior to fees.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 02, 2024, 02:02 PMThink lowest price was $79 prior to fees.
$50 for Kansas.
You want it, you can pay for it...
https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1841610215877460053?t=wZt3M80mgFRB3wQouFh5Ug&s=19 (https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1841610215877460053?t=wZt3M80mgFRB3wQouFh5Ug&s=19)
Deleted.... interesting.
Now back ...
https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1841610810306531648?t=_y3McnKDewQi4RidAA9TtA&s=19 (https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1841610810306531648?t=_y3McnKDewQi4RidAA9TtA&s=19)
He's a fucking bitch
Edit: I see your linked tweet came back to life. Still, he's a fucking bitch.
Probably the best NIL marketing idea they've come up with so far. Also someone tell that fucking mark that it's Slobber Hog not Slobbering Hog.
i guess money can buy anything, lol.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 02, 2024, 06:29 PMi guess money can buy anything, lol.
I'm going to need to see a lawyer get involved and get this in writing.
Otherwise he'll just milk and extra 500k out of the fans every year just to keep the hog logo that should be there anyway.
That's fan blackmail.
it is evil to hold the slobber hog hostage.
How much you bet if Tyson called him and said to put the Slobber Hog on the floor it would be done ASAP at no cost?
i'm hearing that it was already in the works but this is a cheap ass ploy to raise some NIL money and then act like they actually raised it whether they did nor not but it will make everyone think they did.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 02, 2024, 05:50 PMHe's a fucking bitch
Edit: I see your linked tweet came back to life. Still, he's a fucking bitch.
Well all you that have been bitching about the slobbering hog, here is your chance. Pay up, or quit bitching.
I guess every whore needs a good simp.
Isn't Kentucky getting some huge upgrade to their floor? Some digital light show kind of shit happening?
Quote from: animal on Oct 02, 2024, 07:27 PMIsn't Kentucky getting some huge upgrade to their floor? Some digital light show kind of shit happening?
yup
https://x.com/kentuckyhoopsig/status/1838973421452980234
I assume that is just for their Big Blue Madness and not permanent.
If it works like it's supposed to I bet they keep it for intros if for nothing else. Imagine lights going down and the court lighting up after a game-winner shot.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 03, 2024, 11:50 AMIf it works like it's supposed to I bet they keep it for intros if for nothing else. Imagine lights going down and the court lighting up after a game-winner shot.
And for halftime shows
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 03, 2024, 11:50 AMIf it works like it's supposed to I bet they keep it for intros if for nothing else. Imagine lights going down and the court lighting up after a game-winner shot.
I hope it is like those LED craps tables. Slick as shit with a small ridge in it the jacks up your dice roll.
I love being in control of my own bet but HATE that table.
https://x.com/jordysmith_8/status/1843345994752372920
Hunter is pretty good at baiting. Some might even call him a master.
Just fuck no. I hope to God that is just a troll job and nothing more.
That better be a stupid joke, because if it's not it's just stupid.
Not even a good troll job. Everyone knows popcorn snorting hog is the shittiest hog logo.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 07, 2024, 12:45 PMhttps://x.com/jordysmith_8/status/1843345994752372920
Hunter is pretty good at baiting. Some might even call him a master.
Can't remember if I've told this story but when I was playing baseball, we had a kid whose last name was Bader. He also did karate. So yes, we called him Master Bader. Boys will be boys. The moms hated it but understood. We were 12 and acted like it
Quote from: Hognrock on Oct 07, 2024, 08:04 PMCan't remember if I've told this story but when I was playing baseball, we had a kid whose last name was Bader. He also did karate. So yes, we called him Master Bader. Boys will be boys. The moms hated it but understood. We were 12 and acted like it
I have an old friend from back home with the last name Bates. We called him Master well beyond our teens or twenties.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 07, 2024, 01:06 PMThat better be a stupid joke, because if it's not it's just stupid.
He needs to quit trying to be funny on the internet. He has fallen into the Jeff long trap of being a celebrity attention whore AD here. Let the coaches and kids get the attention.
WWFD
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 07, 2024, 09:27 PMI have an old friend from back home with the last name Bates. We called him Master well beyond our teens or twenties.
This wouldn't have been in NLR, would it? On the other hand, any kid with the last name Bates probably heard it a time or two.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Oct 08, 2024, 07:36 AMThis wouldn't have been in NLR, would it? On the other hand, any kid with the last name Bates probably heard it a time or two.
No. Down south.
11/6 Lipscomb W
11/9 Baylor (in DFW) W
11/13 Troy W
11/18 Pacific W
11/22 Little Rock W
11/25 Maryland Eastern Shore W
11/28 Illinois W
12/3 at Miami L
12/7 UTSA W
12/10 Michigan (NYC @MSG) W
12/14 UCA W
12/22 NC A&T W
12/30 Oakland W
1/4 at Tenner L
1/8 Ole Miss W
1/11 Florida W
1/14 at LSU W
1/18 at Mizzou W
1/22 UGA W
1/25 OU W
2/1 at UK L
2/5 at Texas L
2/8 Alabama W
2/12 LSU W
2/15 at A&M W
2/18 at Auburn W
2/22 Mizzou W
2/26 Texas W
3/1 at S. Carolina L
3/5 at Vandy W
3/8 Mississippi St W
________________________
26-5 (14-4)
https://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1844065909230748004?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
I need a few minutes, brb
Hallefuckinglujah. I can't stand up at my desk right now, need a few minutes
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Oct 09, 2024, 12:26 PMhttps://x.com/razorbackmbb/status/1844065909230748004?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
SMFH!!
Now get a fucking Nolan statue out in front of the building.
And retire #34.
Looks awesome. It should have never left and is just another sin of Jeff Long.
After seeing the floor I'm willing to bet that it was coming back whether we hit the NIL goal or not. There's no way Hunter wasn't going to catch shit from everyone for adding the Tyson and Walmart logos and keeping the center court. I was so focused on the Slobber Hog that it took me a few seconds to even notice they added those logos.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Oct 09, 2024, 01:34 PMAnd retire #34.
hasn't that already been done? i believe his and moncrief's numbers are the only ones that have been retired.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 09, 2024, 02:11 PMhasn't that already been done? i believe his and moncrief's numbers are the only ones that have been retired.
I'll be damned you're right. Sorry I was asleep for a lot of the Anderson years. Screen door here I come...
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Oct 09, 2024, 02:22 PMI was asleep for a lot of the Anderson years.
So was Mike
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 09, 2024, 02:27 PMSo was Mike
You just need to run faster. Play harder. Help that bear.
Sorry... Had flashbacks of Mike's coaching huddles.
Quote from: flash23 on Oct 09, 2024, 02:05 PMLooks awesome. It should have never left and is just another sin of Jeff Long.
After the decision to switch to Pepsi, this was the second best decision Long made. The slobbber hog should be retired as a nod to the golden era of razorback basketball in the Nolan Richardson years.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 09, 2024, 04:11 PMAfter the decision to switch to Pepsi, this was the second best decision Long made. The slobbber hog should be retired as a nod to the golden era of razorback basketball in the Nolan Richardson years.
WTF!?
Quote from: flash23 on Oct 09, 2024, 02:05 PMLooks awesome. It should have never left and is just another sin of Jeff Long.
After seeing the floor I'm willing to bet that it was coming back whether we hit the NIL goal or not. There's no way Hunter wasn't going to catch shit from everyone for adding the Tyson and Walmart logos and keeping the center court. I was so focused on the Slobber Hog that it took me a few seconds to even notice they added those logos.
I think he caught enough shit from even teasing slobber hog and acting like he was holding it hostage for $500k in NIL money.
tyson and walmart paid for those logos, they weren't 'added' by the ad.
the university solicited them.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 09, 2024, 04:14 PMWTF!?
Are you an American, or are you someone who does NOT like Mountain Dew with his basketball?
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 09, 2024, 04:11 PMAfter the decision to switch to Pepsi, this was the second best decision Long made. The slobbber hog should be retired as a nod to the golden era of razorback basketball in the Nolan Richardson years.
I think you meant worst, not best. It's okay.
This might be the best thing HY has done for me from a fan point to solicit more NIL money. He got this one right. Seems like they are actually listening.
The slobber hog means nothing to me. Winning means everything.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 09, 2024, 10:37 PMThe slobber hog means nothing to me. Winning means everything.
I hear ya, but I think it connects the past and winning ways. I think it's a smart move.
And it looks way better than the trash Jeff Long bland logo. And fuck Jeff Long.
Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 09, 2024, 10:44 PMAnd it looks way better than the trash Jeff Long bland logo. And fuck Jeff Long.
If any of you work or have a kid that works in food service in NWA, they should "special sauce" Long's food every time he walks into their establishment.
Didn't someone at Nike push the front facing hog? That's at least what I heard. It didn't bother me as much as others. It's fine as an alternate logo. I think the sudden change to plaster it everywhere turned a lot of people off.
yes, nike developed it and it became the official secondary logo.
https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2020/apr/21/date-razorback-history-april-21/
i believe the main logo was tweeked at that time also.
https://www.nwahomepage.com/sports/pig-trail-nation/hog-history-the-evolution-of-the-razorbacks-logo-through-the-years/
My body is ready to cut down the nets this year.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Oct 10, 2024, 08:45 AMMy body is ready to cut down the nets this year.
How much do you think they will sell slivers of the net for?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 10, 2024, 09:00 AMHow much do you think they will sell slivers of the net for?
No idea, but I would be inclined to buy a piece if they did. I figure if we won a natty, it would very likely be the last one in any major sport in my life just based on the first 50 years, so I would like to have a piece of that.
I got a piece ;D
Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 09, 2024, 04:53 PMAre you an American, or are you someone who does NOT like Mountain Dew with his basketball?
I guess not, because I am a Fansville man.
https://x.com/AlyssaOrange/status/1844440717600624844?t=vn8R_gndKL2ZPjwL2u7J-g&s=19 (https://x.com/AlyssaOrange/status/1844440717600624844?t=vn8R_gndKL2ZPjwL2u7J-g&s=19)
We play @Vandy in March with a 9:00 pm tip-off time on a weekday. WTF?
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 10, 2024, 04:43 PMWe play @Vandy in March with a 9:00 pm tip-off time on a weekday. WTF?
9 pm Eastern probably
Quote from: animal on Oct 10, 2024, 04:49 PM9 pm Eastern probably
No. That scheduled says CT
Yep, it's CT. Really odd.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 10, 2024, 04:43 PMWe play @Vandy in March with a 9:00 pm tip-off time on a weekday. WTF?
Early drinking brother. 👍😂
Not bad. Most of our Saturday road games are early tipoffs and the home games are later.
Back to back 8pm games @ Rupp and @ UT is salty.
Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 09, 2024, 10:37 PMThe slobber hog means nothing to me. Winning means everything.
It should. Because it was there for the golden era.
This is incredible news.
Could also go in the Awesome thread...
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1844766890381439183?t=PprD9OYbJafx56h7RSNPrA&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1844766890381439183?t=PprD9OYbJafx56h7RSNPrA&s=19)
Quote from: Hognrock on Oct 10, 2024, 05:31 PMEarly drinking brother. 👍😂
Great point! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 11, 2024, 12:11 PMCould also go in the Awesome thread...
https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1844766890381439183?t=PprD9OYbJafx56h7RSNPrA&s=19 (https://x.com/JohnNaborsShow/status/1844766890381439183?t=PprD9OYbJafx56h7RSNPrA&s=19)
Oh fuck yes
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 10, 2024, 08:30 PMIt should. Because it was there for the golden era.
This is incredible news.
I want to go back to Hog Logos that are unique and have spirit. Not logos designed by some corporate douche from Los Angeles
Your football Hog Logo
(https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Arkansas-Razorbacks-Logo-1955.jpg)
Your basketball Hog Logo
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/603272/files/56551636/champion-slobber-hog-yarn-dye-reverse-weave-sweats.jpg)
Your Alternates
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/02/95/1a/02951ae3dc89257736b721c143d2d530.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/54/4f/bd544f0a2b8f7dd7e81422f26064bc7b.png)
Jumping thru the A is one of my favorites.
Quote from: razor5396 on Oct 12, 2024, 12:11 PMI want to go back to Hog Logos that are unique and have spirit. Not logos designed by some corporate douche from Los Angeles
Your football Hog Logo
(https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Arkansas-Razorbacks-Logo-1955.jpg)
Your basketball Hog Logo
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/603272/files/56551636/champion-slobber-hog-yarn-dye-reverse-weave-sweats.jpg)
Your Alternates
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/02/95/1a/02951ae3dc89257736b721c143d2d530.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/54/4f/bd544f0a2b8f7dd7e81422f26064bc7b.png)
Can I get an amen?
any woopigas attending the scrimmage?
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 12, 2024, 03:50 PMany woopigas attending the scrimmage?
Here, here.
It was really a practice. Some fan interactions at first. Then ran some drills. All of the drills we run have a lot of running/conditioning tied in. Then ran through offensive sets against GAs. Cal has brought in former college players as GA's to help in 5v5.
Aidoo, Thierro, Davis, Sanchez, and Chavis did not participate. My understanding is none have serious injuries. I know Davis has been laboring his back and Aidoo has a foot. Not sure on the others.
As for the play, Boogie Fland is really, really good. Lightning quick, good vision, creates shots for others, and is a MUCH better shooter than I thought. He probably made 80% of bis 3's in drills + 5v5.
Brazile looked very good as well. Actually had a play where he scored inside with his back to the basket. Shot the ball well from 3.
I really like Knox and Richmond. Knox is really working on his shot. He was shooting 20 mins before anyone else. He is very physical and Cal wants him driving the ball inside. He can create his shot as well as anyone. This may aound odd (since he is a lefty), but Richmond reminds me of Darrell Hawkins. He's a tough SF that seems to always be in the right place. Has a better jump shot than you think.
DJ was solid. Knocked down some shots and distributed the ball well. Very good on ball defensive PG.
Big Z didn't do anything great or awful. He is very skilled and athletic to be 7'2".
Pretty disappointing crowd. Might've been half full. Hopefully more will turn out in PB. If not, I doubt they do this again.
:thumb_up:
a couple of the media guys that have seen some practice say fland is the real deal and is probably the best player on the team.
He makes the game look easy. Coach Z made the comparison to Mayberry but he reminds me of John Wall. He's got that kind of speed and vision.
Cal wants this team playing uptempo. They put an emphasis on quickly transitioning from defense to offense. Regardless if it is a miss, make, or TO. They have certain roles and lanes for each scenario. He wants the ball pushed up court and to attack.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 12, 2024, 07:48 PMHe makes the game look easy. Coach Z made the comparison to Mayberry but he reminds me of John Wall. He's got that kind of speed and vision.
Cal wants this team playing uptempo. They put an emphasis on quickly transitioning from defense to offense. Regardless if it is a miss, make, or TO. They have certain roles and lanes for each scenario. He wants the ball pushed up court and to attack.
Boogie doesn't have the explosive athleticism of John Wall but he's a better shooter.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 12, 2024, 11:05 PM
Thanks for posting. It's hard to not like cal which is so fucking weird considering how much I've hated from since that UMass game in 1995.
he is not letting brazile settle on the 3 point line.
The first clip here is the play I mentioned where Brazile caught the ball on the block and scored.
https://x.com/ARHoopScoop/status/1845255061833695431?t=4-MujQG-zsUyNbbAU6XWEw&s=19 (https://x.com/ARHoopScoop/status/1845255061833695431?t=4-MujQG-zsUyNbbAU6XWEw&s=19)
Quote from: BASS on Oct 13, 2024, 09:11 AMThanks for posting. It's hard to not like cal which is so fucking weird considering how much I've hated from since that UMass game in 1995.
My son's company is taking care of Cal's yard at the Blessings. He has talked with Cal a few times, and says he's really a nice guy. When he first called, he said something like "Doug, I have bought this house and my wife hasn't even seen it. You have to make it look good by the time she gets here this weekend. You do whatever needs to be done."
#16 in the preseason AP Poll
https://x.com/CBKReport/status/1845859589687840888?t=IDedB5lGsWF5sj-7OAVLWA&s=19 (https://x.com/CBKReport/status/1845859589687840888?t=IDedB5lGsWF5sj-7OAVLWA&s=19)
Tickets for the Fort Worth scrimmage went on sale today on Ticketmaster. You can get some great seats for $25-45.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 14, 2024, 08:35 PMTickets for the Fort Worth scrimmage went on sale today on Ticketmaster. You can get some great seats for $25-45.
Don't think I'll be able to make that one. Got tix to the Baylor game though.
cal at media days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqLGVslQvnE
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 14, 2024, 08:35 PMTickets for the Fort Worth scrimmage went on sale today on Ticketmaster. You can get some great seats for $25-45.
Thanks for the heads up. Scored some seats right behind the scorer's table although I'm not sure what we are going to see - a practice or a game.
chris cenac jr., the #1 center in next year's class will visit this weekend.
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 16, 2024, 04:09 PMchris cenac jr., the #1 center in next year's class will visit this weekend.
I really like that kid. He's a better version of Kel'el Ware. Playing at Link Academy in Branson.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 14, 2024, 09:14 PMDon't think I'll be able to make that one. Got tix to the Baylor game though.
Same here, wouldn't miss either for anything given where I live and that I have a 9th grade basketball player.
True story, tickets for TCU vs a cupcake last year were $1 for the upper deck and $15 for fantastic seats and parking is free, arena was 3/4 empty. Nuts.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 16, 2024, 07:38 PMSame here, wouldn't miss either for anything given where I live and that I have a 9th grade basketball player.
True story, tickets for TCU vs a cupcake last year were $1 for the upper deck and $15 for fantastic seats and parking is free, arena was 3/4 empty. Nuts.
That's about what I would have paid to see last year's hogs in person.
The latest addition to Hogsplus shows the Hogs using the NOAH system in the practice gym. This is a system that most NBA teams have but few colleges. It gives you shot to shot feedback on your arc, and how accurate your shot is.
Cal is playing 4D chess while others are playing checkers this year.
Finally a reason the ole "practice facility" is paying off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksWr3BjmK_0
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It appears Cal is switching things up a little and that's great to see.
It may not work, but the general point is the one and done formula when he was at UK won't be (championship level) successful here either. Learn from the teams like UConn.
I was always taught as long as you get it in the hole that's half the battle.
Quote from: animal on Oct 24, 2024, 06:24 AMI was always taught as long as you get it in the hole that's half the battle.
Knowing is the other half
Quote from: animal on Oct 24, 2024, 06:24 AMI was always taught as long as you get it in the hole that's half the battle.
That's what she said...
Quote from: animal on Oct 24, 2024, 06:24 AMI was always taught as long as you get it in the hole that's half the battle.
Speaking of...have we gotten a preseason report of who all is banging each other so far this year?
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Oct 25, 2024, 01:19 PMSpeaking of...have we gotten a preseason report of who all is banging each other so far this year?
It's been a tight lipped group
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Oct 25, 2024, 01:19 PMSpeaking of...have we gotten a preseason report of who all is banging each other so far this year?
I wouldn't be pickin' up soap in the shower...
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1849949812889878731?t=rIEiVPHLnWV5YAZLwOhNxA&s=19 (https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1849949812889878731?t=rIEiVPHLnWV5YAZLwOhNxA&s=19)
https://x.com/willwhitson2/status/1850441788114235533
If anybody is looking to go to NY for the Jimmy V classic, I have 4 extra in Section 104, Row 15. Selling for face value ($122 each after fees). You'll be behind and slightly to the side of the Arkansas bench.
Looks like virtually nobody is going to the exhibition game in Ft Worth Friday.
I bought seats early and have about the best seats in the house, but the best sections are only partly full and some sections are completely empty. It's a 14,000 seat arena and I'd be surprised if more than 3000 are sold.
I've been to a couple TCU games and they have almost no support, not at all surprised by that but can't believe more local Hog fans aren't going.
Yep, I checked this morning and you can get several center court for $45. I'm in Dallas this week but the warden is forcing an early departure this evening. Seems the grandkids first Halloween trumps a Hogs exhibition basketball game. Not sure I agree.
To me the exhibition should just be a very minimal cost and maybe make money off concessions.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 30, 2024, 11:37 AMLooks like virtually nobody is going to the exhibition game in Ft Worth Friday.
I bought seats early and have about the best seats in the house, but the best sections are only partly full and some sections are completely empty. It's a 14,000 seat arena and I'd be surprised if more than 3000 are sold.
I've been to a couple TCU games and they have almost no support, not at all surprised by that but can't believe more local Hog fans aren't going.
Prob why there is no tv or internet coverage.
Money goes to charity. Supposedly
which kinda sucks if that's all the tickets that got sold.
Tickets are $45 for really good seats and $25 for good seats. Upper deck is closed.
We are sitting in chairbacks at courtside. I'll never get that chance again, and thought it would be a special opportunity for my son, who's a 9th grade basketball player (and wore all Hogs gear to TCU basketball camp).
Dickies is a cool arena, designed for rodeo. I like it a lot better than the AAC.
like the way the assistants are giving the previews. payne last week and chin coleman today. both are impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkczPhvsiS8
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 30, 2024, 01:25 PMTickets are $45 for really good seats and $25 for good seats. Upper deck is closed.
We are sitting in chairbacks at courtside. I'll never get that chance again, and thought it would be a special opportunity for my son, who's a 9th grade basketball player (and wore all Hogs gear to TCU basketball camp).
Dickies is a cool arena, designed for rodeo. I like it a lot better than the AAC.
Sitting courtside will be badass. We have some fun guys to watch, maybe the most athletic team we've ever had.
Pre-season rankings out.
Preseason Player of the Year
Mark Sears – Alabama
First Team
Mark Sears – Alabama
Johni Broome – Auburn
Walter Clayton Jr. – Florida
Zakai Zeigler – Tennessee
Wade Taylor IV – Texas A&M
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 30, 2024, 12:57 PMMoney goes to charity. Supposedly
I hope those kids aren't too hungry.
I expect to see bland on the post season 1st team.
https://youtu.be/jVC0m9wtE9I?si=dIQBTHBdvn3XcKAG
Baylor tickets aren't exactly selling like hotcakes, either, but it's highly noteworthy that the Arkansas side seems to have sold at least twice as many tickets as the Baylor side.
Quote from: BASS on Oct 30, 2024, 06:38 PMI expect to see bland on the post season 1st team.
Hopefully it's Fland one not too bland.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 30, 2024, 08:10 PMBaylor tickets aren't exactly selling like hotcakes, either, but it's highly noteworthy that the Arkansas side seems to have sold at least twice as many tickets as the Baylor side.
I have a family member that has 2 for sale if anyone is looking.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Oct 30, 2024, 08:10 PMBaylor tickets aren't exactly selling like hotcakes, either, but it's highly noteworthy that the Arkansas side seems to have sold at least twice as many tickets as the Baylor side.
I'm surprised at how many tickets are still available for the Jimmy V classic. I figured fans would be buying those like crazy.
https://x.com/ChoateMason/status/1852019660989903118?t=F7-Lu4qQBFW-f-buVqtilQ&s=19 (https://x.com/ChoateMason/status/1852019660989903118?t=F7-Lu4qQBFW-f-buVqtilQ&s=19)
Quote from: BASS on Oct 30, 2024, 06:38 PMI expect to see bland on the post season 1st team.
No doubt.
Kansas has some good guards and he made them look silly most of the time.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 01, 2024, 07:19 PMNo doubt.
Kansas has some good guards and he made them look silly most of the time.
Both ends of the floor too.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 31, 2024, 11:10 AMhttps://x.com/ChoateMason/status/1852019660989903118?t=F7-Lu4qQBFW-f-buVqtilQ&s=19 (https://x.com/ChoateMason/status/1852019660989903118?t=F7-Lu4qQBFW-f-buVqtilQ&s=19)
From reading that note from Yurachek, Arkansas Edge contributions will still have nothing to do with seating priority. To me that's wrong-headed. Maybe it's part of the rules or something, but otherwise it doesn't make sense to me.
Really the first three games could not have set up any better.
Win over #1 Kansas to cause excitement and indicate that hey maybe Calipari has put together a good team.
Loss to TCU that doesn't count at all (most important thing) but that brings our heads back down out of the clouds.
Grind it out boring win over a mid-major team that will likely be in the NCAA Tournament. Lots of things to work on for sure out of this game, but nothing to swell our heads about. Aidoo starts getting a little run.
The next good step would be a close road win over a good team where we close out a game in tight circumstances.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 08, 2024, 07:52 PMReally the first three games could not have set up any better.
Win over #1 Kansas to cause excitement and indicate that hey maybe Calipari has put together a good team.
Loss to TCU that doesn't count at all (most important thing) but that brings our heads back down out of the clouds.
Grind it out boring win over a mid-major team that will likely be in the NCAA Tournament. Lots of things to work on for sure out of this game, but nothing to swell our heads about. Aidoo starts getting a little run.
The next good step would be a close road win over a good team where we close out a game in tight circumstances.
Aidoo looked a little lost out there to me. I guess it was because it was his first game. He is a beast, and I am sure he will be a huge asset as the season progresses.
maleek thomas, #1 sg will announce this evening.
hogs supposed to be in good shape, but uconn is in the mix.
and he commits to the hogs.
Fuck yeah.
Can we suit him up this season? I mean, the great ball-knower says we have no hope of throwing it in the ocean.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 11, 2024, 07:29 PMCan we suit him up this season? I mean, the great ball-knower says we have no hope of throwing it in the ocean.
Just say you don't know balls.
Comments from a Facebook friend's feed who is a Kentucky guy, on last night's game. Post-divorce bitterness, sure. But always best to keep your eyes open (say, if Ole Miss has listened to us about Nutt. Part I.
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Part II.
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Their coach's "adjustments" were to somehow convince Duke's Freshman All-American to try to play hero ball for the last ten minutes of the game, completely ignoring the fact that he had teammates who were open and capable of scoring.
Flagg scored Duke's final sixteen points.
Eight of their last ten possessions ended in either a shot or a turnover by Flagg.
We beat Duke last year didn't we? How did that work out for us?
I've never seen a fan base poo poo a hire like they did at first with Pope, then immediately embrace it and then act as if they wanted him from the beginning.
Now he already walks on water because he won a game by five against a super inexperienced Duke team whose best player is 17 years old and it took the Blue Devils shooting 17 percent from 3 to do it.
Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 13, 2024, 10:12 AMI've never seen a fan base poo poo a hire like they did at first with Pope, then immediately embrace it and then act as if they wanted him from the beginning.
Now he already walks on water because he won a game by five against a super inexperienced Duke team whose best player is 17 years old and it took the Blue Devils shooting 17 percent from 3 to do it.
I wasn't quoting for the comments on Pope.
But the comments on Calipari seem vaguely....Mike Anderson.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 13, 2024, 10:28 AMI wasn't quoting for the comments on Pope.
But the comments on Calipari seem vaguely....Mike Anderson.
If Calipari was an amazing x's and o's coach he would probably have five national titles and not one.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 13, 2024, 10:28 AMI wasn't quoting for the comments on Pope.
But the comments on Calipari seem vaguely....Mike Anderson.
Picture Mike with talent and credibility for the life of his career. In fairness to Mike I think he was decently successful until the landscape of college changed to a point where he wasnt able to adapt. Mike was never a great teacher or at least not with a mic on or in his face during a game.
KY made 0 adjustments at half. They won cause Duke couldn't make an open shot.
KY looked no different than either other team, including us, on offense.
And Duke's 5* big man couldn't stay on the court in the 2nd half as he kept cramping up.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Nov 13, 2024, 01:11 PMAnd Duke's 5* big man couldn't stay on the court in the 2nd half as he kept cramping up.
Bananas, magnesium supplements, and lots of water.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 13, 2024, 09:46 AMWe beat Duke last year didn't we? How did that work out for us?
This.
And coach K would not have lost that game. (Or to the one to us)
Isaiah Sealy from Springdale inks with Arkansas. Looks good on video.
Quote from: Lurk on Nov 16, 2024, 03:30 PMIsaiah Sealy from Springdale inks with Arkansas. Looks good on video.
Nice get.
Caleb Wilson cancels his visit.
We have a game in a few hours
No shit?
The McRib is back.
We aren't making the Tourney this year, HTL has spoken.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Dec 03, 2024, 08:44 PMWe aren't making the Tourney this year, HTL has spoken.
Well then I guess I'll go ahead and cancel my YTTV package and live once again as a mere hobbit.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Dec 03, 2024, 08:44 PMWe aren't making the Tourney this year, HTL has spoken.
Would it be ok if I watched a few more games before I make some prognostication of that magnitude, or do I just have to accept his word for it?
Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 03, 2024, 08:48 PMWould it be ok if I watched a few more games before I make some prognostication of that magnitude, or do I just have to accept his word for it?
Bro,
IT
HAS
BEEN
WRITTEN
Did he stutter? Many more proclamations like that from him and we will all be booking final 4 tickets.
Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Dec 03, 2024, 08:50 PMBro,
IT
HAS
BEEN
WRITTEN
Did he stutter? Many more proclamations like that from him and we will all be booking final 4 tickets.
Let me know when you start looking for those. I want in.
The patterns of our past Final Four teams show that the best composition is three national-level players, with one a big star, and a team of good role players who know their role.
70s - the Triplets with star Moncrief; role players like Schall and Counce
Early 90s - Day, Mayberry, and Oliver Miller, with Day being the biggest star.
Mid 90s - Beck, Scottie, and Corliss, obviously Corliss was the straw the stirred the drink. An amazing amount of role players, which is why we won it all then 2nd.
Do we have three this year? Fland, Thiero, and _______. Should be Davis but he has not been, so far. Richmond has the potential to be a Lenzie Howell or Butch Morris type role player. Z = Dwight Stewart?
I think it will be Davis in the end. Need him to be aggressive like he was last night.
I still like the mix of players on this team...we have three or four guys who can really guard the ball and play with effort...If Aidoo can get healthy, we could be tough defensively with him as a rim protector...Davis and DJ are definitely team guys..as is thiero....rhey are all willing passers...need DJ AND DAVIS to be a little more aggressive off the bounce...
The conference is loaded so it'll be huge for us to take advantage of the lsu and missouri road games early...i think 10-8 11-7 is a great season. if we can pick off a couple of road wins maybe a little better...but that also means beating bama or auburn at home. That'll be really tough
Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Dec 05, 2024, 11:09 AMI still like the mix of players on this team...we have three or four guys who can really guard the ball and play with effort...If Aidoo can get healthy, we could be tough defensively with him as a rim protector...Davis and DJ are definitely team guys..as is thiero....rhey are all willing passers...need DJ AND DAVIS to be a little more aggressive off the bounce...
The conference is loaded so it'll be huge for us to take advantage of the lsu and missouri road games early...i think 10-8 11-7 is a great season. if we can pick off a couple of road wins maybe a little better...but that also means beating bama or auburn at home. That'll be really tough
Aidoo and Brazile will make it hard to get a shot off when they get some time together.
Boogie is a superstar. He's the kind that can take you to championship.
I'm not sold on Aidoo at all. I don't like how he moves and uses his body in the paint. I really hope this injury he is fighting through is real.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 05, 2024, 11:52 AMI'm not sold on Aidoo at all. I don't like how he moves and uses his body in the paint. I really hope this injury he is fighting through is real.
He looked a lot better than this at Tennessee. It almost has to be injury related.
Not saying much but he was dominant against us last year. He was good enough to make 1st team all SEC. Time will tell.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 05, 2024, 11:52 AMI'm not sold on Aidoo at all. I don't like how he moves and uses his body in the paint. I really hope this injury he is fighting through is real.
Yeah, go watch video of him at Tennessee last year. Hopefully, he gets back to that come conference play.
Aren't we playing a game today?
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Dec 07, 2024, 12:52 PMAren't we playing a game today?
In 6 minutes. We'll start scoring in ten minutes.
SEC+
Aidoo rusty, missed three point blank shots
Now 4
Jesus this is ugly so far.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Dec 07, 2024, 01:05 PMAidoo rusty, missed three point blank shots
Didn't just miss them, he got stuffed by UTSA's medium-big man.
How can a defensive player hit an offensive player in the face and there be no foul?
Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 07, 2024, 01:17 PMHow can a defensive player hit an offensive player in the face and there be no foul?
Diplomatic immunity.
We made the right call, this game doesn't deserve a thread so far.
Man, we're hard to watch.
Davis is not a good basketball player. Either that or he simply doesn't give a shit.
We're just not good.
We look out of sync. Not clicking right now.
we can't start the game worth a shit.
we'll eventually wear these guys down but slow starts won't cut it in sec play.
Has Z played? Is he available?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 07, 2024, 01:40 PMHas Z played? Is he available?
Has a ankle I believe so may not see him
I'm gonna guess he's going to run AIDOO's ass a lot in the 2nd half.
Man where would we be without Thiero.
Almost at the first year of Nolan Mike Ratliff our best player, level.
Davis quietly having a better game/half. Keep coming around.
Aidoo clearly needs...something. Conditioning? Injury recovery? Minutes?
Something. He looks like Mike Carpenter out there.
defending the 3 point line much better in this half.
brazile.
Davis is making me eat my words from the first half. He has played better. And, he is starting to make shots.
Despite that basket, Knox is not seeing or playing the game at D-I speed yet. The pass to UTSA on the previous possession is something I would have done in the HPER because I didn't correctly judge where the defender was.
we're a ragtag bunch.
Nice things, we can't have them
ETA: appears he's walking it off
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 07, 2024, 02:32 PMbrazile.
Seeing a lot more hustle from him. Halftime talk lit a fire under everyone.
Does it feel like everyone is just kind of not sure what to think of Kentucky's coach coaching our guys that aren't really our guys they are mercs and not necessarily good mercs at that?
Quote from: animal on Dec 07, 2024, 03:34 PMDoes it feel like everyone is just kind of not sure what to think of Kentucky's coach coaching our guys that aren't really our guys they are mercs and not necessarily good mercs at that?
It's kinda weird
Quote from: animal on Dec 07, 2024, 03:34 PMDoes it feel like everyone is just kind of not sure what to think of Kentucky's coach coaching our guys that aren't really our guys they are mercs and not necessarily good mercs at that?
This is exactly why the support is kind of meh wait and see so far.
The only reason to buy into Calipari and a team of "mercs" is for a national championship level run. So far, this ain't that.
We only have one player that was in the program a year ago.
A little early to claim defeat.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Dec 07, 2024, 04:42 PMWe only have one player that was in the program a year ago.
A little early to claim defeat.
a little early to decide to invest any emotional capital in them either
i.e. Who the Hell are these guys running around in Razorback shirts? I doubt any have had a chance to get weepy over the graduate sidewalk or anything else for that matter.
Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Dec 07, 2024, 04:42 PMWe only have one player that was in the program a year ago.
A little early to claim defeat.
Not exactly claiming "defeat".
I think many fans are claiming "disinterest" exactly for the reason of your first sentence. A completely new team every year, and of mercenaries as animal says, doesn't exactly build interest and loyalty.
Only thing that matters is March.
Quote from: Lurk on Dec 07, 2024, 04:54 PMOnly thing that matters is March.
This.
Healthy Aidoo, Davis keeps getting his 3s back on track, Knox keeps turning into a contributor, etc and this team could make a run.
Aidoo is the biggest problem, we needed him.
Quote from: Lurk on Dec 07, 2024, 04:54 PMOnly thing that matters is March.
if muss taught us anything, it was that.
We missed Big Z today. He would've helped out.
It still feels like the worst this team can be is how they're playing right now. I do worry about turnovers. We seem to have stretches each game where we gove the ball away far too often.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 06:49 PMIt still feels like the worst this team can be is how they're playing right now. I do worry about turnovers. We seem to have stretches each game where we gove the ball away far too often.
We do make some lazy, careless passes at times. I hope our alley oop timing gets better. Had some nice ones today.
I just watched the end of the Miami game because I was out the other night.
Regardless of his performance today against UTSA, Boogie Fland strikes me as a Nick Smith You Can Count On. Very much the same kind of player with the ball in his hands.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 07, 2024, 07:21 PMI just watched the end of the Miami game because I was out the other night.
Regardless of his performance today against UTSA, Boogie Fland strikes me as a Nick Smith You Can Count On. Very much the same kind of player with the ball in his hands.
didn't shoot it well, but 6 rebounds and 7 assists is a good day for a point guard.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 07, 2024, 07:21 PMI just watched the end of the Miami game because I was out the other night.
Regardless of his performance today against UTSA, Boogie Fland strikes me as a Nick Smith You Can Count On. Very much the same kind of player with the ball in his hands.
He and Thiero have basically had one off game but generally been as consistent as any players I can remember.
I can't believe what we got with Thiero. Miami aside, he lights it up every night.
We opened as a 4.5 point underdog to Michigan tomorrow.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 09, 2024, 05:23 PMWe opened as a 4.5 point underdog to Michigan tomorrow.
fair
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 09, 2024, 05:23 PMWe opened as a 4.5 point underdog to Michigan tomorrow.
They must not know that I'll be at the game. It'll be on bitches!!
Quote from: Usafhawg on Dec 09, 2024, 08:02 PMThey must not know that I'll be at the game. It'll be on bitches!!
You're flying in for it from Maryland? That's Rick B level fandom right there brother. :thumb_up:
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 07, 2024, 07:24 PMdidn't shoot it well, but 6 rebounds and 7 assists is a good day for a point guard.
Boogie is actually a very good rebounder. And one other thing this team does well- defend the glass, although many times it is from behind. Don't know how many times I have seen us swat away a layup from behind, right at the glass. And usually without fouling.
Quote from: TC on Dec 09, 2024, 09:03 PMYou're flying in for it from Maryland? That's Rick B level fandom right there brother. :thumb_up:
We took the train up yesterday. Best way to get here from Maryland.
Lunardi here to show how he does not get better with age
https://x.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1867594274776175073
What am I looking for? I don't see Arkansas on there anywhere so I assume that means we are somewhere in the mass of 5-12 seeds?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 13, 2024, 11:57 AMWhat am I looking for? I don't see Arkansas on there anywhere so I assume that means we are somewhere in the mass of 5-12 seeds?
I'm assuming we are firmly in the middle of at-large zone.
Also this is all very subject to change since conference hasn't started for many
The SEC could very well get 13 schools in depending on how much parity there ends up being
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 13, 2024, 11:57 AMWhat am I looking for? I don't see Arkansas on there anywhere so I assume that means we are somewhere in the mass of 5-12 seeds?
You're looking for a clear indicator that it's WAY too early to start projecting the field.
But since it matters to Lunardi, it looks like Auburn is gonna get that convincing win. They're ahead by 28 at halftime in Columbus.
Aggie with a 6 point lead at Purdue with 2 minutes and change.
I think Auburn may be pretty good.
Cal said on the UCA post game radio we will be playing in Chicago next thanksgiving against another big name.
https://x.com/bymattjones/status/1868073775058632772
I would guess Kansas or Duke based on his description. Maybe UConn.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 15, 2024, 09:22 AMhttps://x.com/bymattjones/status/1868073775058632772
I would guess Kansas or Duke based on his description. Maybe UConn.
Maybe it's Kentucky, unless there is some rule that a conference game can't be scheduled that early.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Dec 15, 2024, 09:40 AMMaybe it's Kentucky, unless there is some rule that a conference game can't be scheduled that early.
Not Kentucky. They will be our home game next year. Even if a conference game could be played that early, we're not playing it in Chicago.
I'm going to guess Kansas but it could also be any number of "blue/red bloods" such as Louisville, Duke, Gonzaga...Cal has always been big on getting good contests.
supposedly it's duke, part of the sec/acc challenge. that's what 'insiders' are saying.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 15, 2024, 01:08 PMsupposedly it's duke, part of the sec/acc challenge. that's what 'insiders' are saying.
So we would be sacrificing a home game but it puts us on CBS on Thanksgiving again.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 15, 2024, 01:18 PMSo we would be sacrificing a home game but it puts us on CBS on Thanksgiving again.
cal loves him some big site neutral court games.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 15, 2024, 01:08 PMsupposedly it's duke, part of the sec/acc challenge. that's what 'insiders' are saying.
I thought those were on campus games
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 15, 2024, 01:08 PMsupposedly it's duke, part of the sec/acc challenge. that's what 'insiders' are saying.
since we hosted duke last year not sure it's gonna be that big.
UCLA or North Carolina or St. John's - Cal vs Pinto ?
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 15, 2024, 01:18 PMSo we would be sacrificing a home game but it puts us on CBS on Thanksgiving again.
So far the neutral side crowds have been way better than BWA crowds.
Quote from: flash23 on Dec 16, 2024, 06:53 AMSo far the neutral side crowds games have been way better than BWA crowds games.
Well,
Apparently Chuck said this morning that the next three months will be the best basketball we've ever seen in Bud Walton history.
Just an absolute slap in the face to the '94 and '95 teams. They lost one game in that building in two years.
if he meant that because of the opposition we will face, then right now that looks to be true.
i kinda doubt that he was slighting any arkansas team.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 16, 2024, 07:34 AMWell,
It was a sold out crowd in LR to watch us play Central Arkansas this weekend. The BWA crowds have been horrendous all year. I know the competition hasn't been fantastic, but the attendance looks like what we had with Pelphrey.
Quote from: flash23 on Dec 16, 2024, 09:51 AMIt was a sold out crowd in LR to watch us play Central Arkansas this weekend. The BWA crowds have been horrendous all year. I know the competition hasn't been fantastic, but the attendance looks like what we had with Pelphrey.
Little Rock gets one game a year. When we play real teams in Fayetteville it will be close to full or full.
The schedule seems a little odd this year.
We don't play again until next Saturday the 21st. After that we get an extended break for Christmas before playing again on Monday 12/30.
In the past they have usually taken a longer break for finals, but those ended last Friday.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 16, 2024, 09:44 AMif he meant that because of the opposition we will face, then right now that looks to be true.
i kinda doubt that he was slighting any arkansas team.
Yeah I didn't hear the context, just what a friend texted me. If he's meaning the level of play night in and night out in the building based on how good the SEC is, then I can get behind that.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 16, 2024, 10:01 AMThe schedule seems a little odd this year.
We don't play again until next Saturday the 21st. After that we get an extended break for Christmas before playing again on Monday 12/30.
In the past they have usually taken a longer break for finals, but those ended last Friday.
I think it's based on Christmas being in the middle of the week. Screws a lot of things up.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 16, 2024, 09:57 AMLittle Rock gets one game a year. When we play real teams in Fayetteville it will be close to full or full.
I guess my point is I think the crowds should be better regardless of who we're playing. I think a lot of fans hang their hat on the BWA atmosphere but it's been shitty unless it's a big game. I'm not saying we are going to get 20k in their to watch us play Pacific, but the lower level should be full for every game. I don't think that's an outrageous statement.
Quote from: flash23 on Dec 16, 2024, 10:38 AMI guess my point is I think the crowds should be better regardless of who we're playing. I think a lot of fans hang their hat on the BWA atmosphere but it's been shitty unless it's a big game. I'm not saying we are going to get 20k in their to watch us play Pacific, but the lower level should be full for every game. I don't think that's an outrageous statement.
Lower level hasn't been full for these noncon games since maybe the Nolan era. Definitely not since every game has been available to watch on tv. I don't know why people are acting like this is a new thing.
We should move all the games to Barton Coliseum!
Quote from: Pighair on Dec 16, 2024, 11:47 AMWe should move all the games to Barton Coliseum!
Uh, no.
That shithole was awful for the state championships in 2013. Still can't believe they had it there. Unreal they played mulitple games there up until the early 1990s.
Did anyone notice Michigan remained in the AP poll, #24, and we are just outside, #27?
When we just beat them and both have 2 losses?
Our losses are "good losses," Baylor & Illinois.
Al Davis time.
*edit - OTOH we are ahead of both Baylor & Illinois. When Illinois just played #1 Tennessee down to the wire.
I dunno man.
Michigan dropped about ten spots I think
I believe our NET rating also dropped 3 spots somehow.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Dec 17, 2024, 12:37 PMI believe our NET rating also dropped 3 spots somehow.
Guessing we are still behind LSU in NET
Quote from: BASS on Dec 17, 2024, 12:46 PMGuessing we are still behind LSU in NET
We're behind everybody in the NET
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Dec 16, 2024, 10:44 AMLower level hasn't been full for these noncon games since maybe the Nolan era. Definitely not since every game has been available to watch on tv. I don't know why people are acting like this is a new thing.
I thought we had pretty good crowds most of Musselman's time here but maybe you're right.
Quote from: flash23 on Dec 17, 2024, 09:38 PMI thought we had pretty good crowds most of Musselman's time here but maybe you're right.
Crowds were always hit or miss for non-con games in November and December. Obviously the Duke game was packed out but he didn't play many marquee non-con games other than that during his tenure. And he had COVID take away crowds during 2020-21.
Lots of basketball games are on week nights. And they are all streamed now. Back in Nolan's day if you wanted to see a lot of these games you had to be there.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 18, 2024, 12:24 PMLots of basketball games are on week nights. And they are all streamed now. Back in Nolan's day if you wanted to see a lot of these games you had to be there.
Definitely early in his tenure. Now once we got rolling in the 90s they were usually on ARSN on like 40/29 or Channel 7 or if it was a legit non con we'd be on ESPN.
Quote from: HughJasole on Dec 18, 2024, 12:05 PMCrowds were always hit or miss for non-con games in November and December. Obviously the Duke game was packed out but he didn't play many marquee non-con games other than that during his tenure. And he had COVID take away crowds during 2020-21.
I don't remember them being as poorly attended as the BWA crowds this year, but maybe I have some revisionist history.
I think this year has been down even more than the last couple years.
Speaking of which, anyone want 2 lower level tickets to the game Saturday? I've got family coming in town and can't make it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 18, 2024, 12:38 PMI think this year has been down even more than the last couple years.
Speaking of which, anyone want 2 lower level tickets to the game Saturday? I've got family coming in town and can't make it.
I will gladly take them.
I am thinking what we need to do is go out and find us a couple of the whitest most punchable face motherfuckers we can each season and put on this team. That should increase our average ranking and overall win total each season.
Boogie's replacement
https://x.com/John_Fanta/status/1869904316170948797?t=4u3W8UTxsi0R5_oj25vGtA&s=19 (https://x.com/John_Fanta/status/1869904316170948797?t=4u3W8UTxsi0R5_oj25vGtA&s=19)
replacing fland and wagner with the #1 sg and the #1 pg.
Quote from: vegashog on Dec 19, 2024, 07:38 PMreplacing fland and wagner with the #1 sg and the #1 pg.
I have to pinch myself ever time another top recruit commits. Damn, this is awesome.
I am glad that USC has to be put up with that silly shit.
We have tolerate top recruits committing in bulk. Deal.
Per an insta post of MBB, we are now #23 in AP.
Crazy graphic
https://x.com/CBBonFOX/status/1871277093235163637?t=svgK0i6IIcVChGSv6heO5g&s=19 (https://x.com/CBBonFOX/status/1871277093235163637?t=svgK0i6IIcVChGSv6heO5g&s=19)
This has gotta be a first for the ACC only having one ranked team.
The SEC has 16 teams now and only one has 3 losses and that's South Carolina. And it's not like these teams have been playing Charmin soft schedules. Texas and probably Missouri could also be ranked.
Conference play is going to be incredible this year. 7-11 will probably be good enough to make the tournament.
Anyone got extra tix for the game tonight? My dad is in town and wanted to go.
Quote from: HughJasole on Dec 30, 2024, 10:27 AMAnyone got extra tix for the game tonight? My dad is in town and wanted to go.
I don't for tonight but look up @pinto479 on X. He does a good job of helping people find tix.
At number 1 Tennessee Saturday. Do we stand a chance?
If we can avoid the shooting droughts I think we can keep it close.
If we shoot well, we win.
Quote from: BASS on Dec 31, 2024, 02:16 PMAt number 1 Tennessee Saturday. Do we stand a chance?
If we can avoid the shooting droughts I think we can keep it close.
If we shoot well, we win.
If we play with the energy we did in the second half against Michigan before the final 8 minutes and last night's second half, we can win. Another key will be avoiding an early hole like we did against Illinois. You can't get down 11-0 or 15-2 at the first media timeout against a good team.
I think we have a chance. I really like Lanier. He's a helluva player. The Boogie/Ziegler matchup will be interesting. They are gonna be physical. We will need a big game from Aidoo. Hopefully he is motivated.
I think we're going to win, get excited about things, disappoint for the rest of January, then put it all back together in February.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 02, 2025, 03:02 PMI think we're going to win, get excited about things, disappoint for the rest of January, then put it all back together in February.
I don't think we win AT Tennessee. Now if we were playing here....
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 02, 2025, 03:10 PMI don't think we win AT Tennessee. Now if we were playing here....
We are going to get humbled on Saturday to the tune of 90-65 or thereabouts. And Aidoo will play like shit.
I've done this long enough to know what's coming.
I don't see us winning at Tennessee with 2 key guys still not over their injuries.
according to kenny payne today, aidoo has had the flu, not injured.
he didn't really say anything about davis except he's been practicing.
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 02, 2025, 04:58 PMaccording to kenny payne today, aidoo has had the flu, not injured.
Ok these two are going to continue to be confused.
Adou Thiero has had the flu.
Is Kenny Payne saying Jonas Aidoo also has it now?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 02, 2025, 05:02 PMOk these two are going to continue to be confused.
Adou Thiero has had the flu.
Is Kenny Payne saying Jonas Aidoo also has it now?
yes. had it when we played against oakland and has been feeling it since.
I think about half the team has had the flu
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 02, 2025, 04:58 PMaccording to kenny payne today, aidoo has had the flu, not injured.
he didn't really say anything about davis except he's been practicing.
I wonder if there are any other sort of ailments this team can get before the end of the season.
Calipari's teams always put up solid regular seasons.
In high school, prior to basketball season starting, we had to take the flu shot.
Anyone know John's rule on this?
Quote from: animal on Jan 02, 2025, 06:18 PMI think about half the team has had the flu
They caught the fog
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 02, 2025, 06:28 PMIn high school, prior to basketball season starting, we had to take the flu shot.
Anyone know John's rule on this?
Aren't the jabs verboten in the New Reich?
Quote from: animal on Jan 02, 2025, 06:18 PMI think about half the team has had the flu
Better than last year. I was afraid half that team was going to come down with Magic-Johnson.
Quote from: obijuana on Jan 02, 2025, 10:41 PMBetter than last year. I was afraid half that team was going to come down with Magic-Johnson.
Oh, I think there was plenty of Johnson going around 🤫
Quote from: Guardrail on Jan 03, 2025, 07:57 AMOh, I think there was plenty of Johnson going around 🤫
Sword fighting used to be considered civilized
Quote from: obijuana on Jan 02, 2025, 10:41 PMBetter than last year. I was afraid half that team was going to come down with Magic-Johnson.
L O L
Well done!
Quote from: animal on Jan 03, 2025, 08:38 AMSword fighting used to be considered civilized
Now they just call it tummy sticks.
i think todays game is a slugfest...
hogs cover the 12.5 but fall short late
i really think the under is the play
Hogs by 6
I said it elsewhere, but 90-65 Tennessee.
Kentucky is trying our patented give them a ten point lead right off the bat approach with Florida.
As I said...we ain't winning AT Tennessee. College basketball has gotten to where, no matter how good you are, if you don't blow a lesser team out on the road, chances are you are going to lose. You are good to go at home. I think we get beaten by 10-15 points.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 04, 2025, 10:46 AMAs I said...we ain't winning AT Tennessee. College basketball has gotten to where, no matter how good you are, if you don't blow a lesser team out on the road, chances are you are going to lose. You are good to go at home. I think we get beaten by 10-15 points.
Starting to look more like 25-30.
nm
This team is the model of what it looks like to just buy, buy, buy talent.
It's not a magic potion.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 04, 2025, 01:05 PMThis team is the model of what it looks like to just buy, buy, buy talent.
It's not a magic potion.
We had no roster when Cal was hired. He had no choice but to go and get new players. The 2 best portal additions have struggled but have also been battling injuries.
We have a top 25 team. Let's see how the season plays out.
I think the simplest explanation is that Tennessee is for real. They've blown out highly ranked teams.
We're playing 3 freshman a lot of mins. Richmond and Knox have made strides. They will continue to get better. I think both return next year.
It's going to be interesting to see how Cal constructs his roster moving forward. I think he sees the value of being older. He's still gonna try and grab a couple 5*'s each year. I think it's just as important to get guys like Richmond, Knox, Sealy who can stay in the program a couple years. That's what you're seeing at a lot of the top program's right now (good players returning multiple years).
Quote from: piglosopher on Jan 04, 2025, 07:37 PMI think the simplest explanation is that Tennessee is for real. They've blown out highly ranked teams.
no way!
We are going up to the Ole Miss game on Wednesday. Looking forward to it. Wish I could stay till the weekend to see the Fla game, but can't.
Anyone looking for 2 tickets for tomorrow night? Looks like we're gonna stay put.
Ivisic = hte suxs
Aidoo = hte suxs
Davis = hte suks
Fland = good, nothing special
Knox = good, nothing special
Thiero = awesome, need more like him
Brazile = good, hustles his butt off which I appreciate
Wagner = Okay, plays above his talent level at times
Everyone else = not good
Coach Cal = should have hired the current Kentucky coach
And that folks, is your 15 games into the season review.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 09, 2025, 07:38 AMIvisic = hte suxs
Aidoo = hte suxs
Davis = hte suks
Fland = good, nothing special
Knox = good, nothing special
Thiero = awesome, need more like him
Brazile = good, hustles his butt off which I appreciate
Wagner = Okay, plays above his talent level at times
Everyone else = not good
Coach Cal = should have hired the current Kentucky coach
And that folks, is your 15 games into the season review.
People have made a big deal about Davis not showing up, but to me Aidoo is the biggest WTF.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but I thought we were getting the guy who went for 23 and 12 against us last year, not the reincarnation of late stage Lee Wilson. I wonder if we didn't do a medical evaluation on him (and Davis) before handing them a seven figure NIL payment. Aidoo lumbers around out there like he's slow, unathletic, and completely lost.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 09, 2025, 07:38 AMIvisic = hte suxs
Aidoo = hte suxs
Davis = hte suks
Fland = good, nothing special
Knox = good, nothing special
Thiero = awesome, need more like him
Brazile = good, hustles his butt off which I appreciate
Wagner = Okay, plays above his talent level at times
Everyone else = not good
Coach Cal = should have hired the current Kentucky coach
And that folks, is your 15 games into the season review.
It's analysis like this is why we pay dues. Worth every penny.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 09, 2025, 07:54 AMPeople have made a big deal about Davis not showing up, but to me Aidoo is the biggest WTF.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but I thought we were getting the guy who went for 23 and 12 against us last year, not the reincarnation of late stage Lee Wilson. I wonder if we didn't do a medical evaluation on him (and Davis) before handing them a seven figure NIL payment. Aidoo lumbers around out there like he's slow, unathletic, and completely lost.
To be fair, Arkansas is good at letting opposing players who are not very good go for 23 and 12 against us.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 09, 2025, 07:38 AMIvisic = hte suxs
Aidoo = hte suxs
Davis = hte suks
Fland = good, nothing special
Knox = good, nothing special
Thiero = awesome, need more like him
Brazile = good, hustles his butt off which I appreciate
Wagner = Okay, plays above his talent level at times
Everyone else = not good
Coach Cal = should have hired the current Kentucky coach
And that folks, is your 15 games into the season review.
Knox has been fucking awful.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 09, 2025, 07:54 AMPeople have made a big deal about Davis not showing up, but to me Aidoo is the biggest WTF.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but I thought we were getting the guy who went for 23 and 12 against us last year, not the reincarnation of late stage Lee Wilson. I wonder if we didn't do a medical evaluation on him (and Davis) before handing them a seven figure NIL payment. Aidoo lumbers around out there like he's slow, unathletic, and completely lost.
Arguably Davis is just not getting the shot opportunities. He was 4-9 in FG and 4-4 at the FT stripe on a night where nobody else could make shots. His defense isn't all that good though and he had some frustration fouls. Not sure what his overall +/- is and all that jazz.
Anyway I think it's already been noted by somebody else earlier in the season but if Fland has a off night we're probably not winning. The ball is in his hands a good 70% of our possessions and I'm pulling that number out of my ass but that's probably about right.
Wagner flopping on the same night as Fland really killed us. I think he's ok at times but he's just not overly consistent. It seems like everyone in the SEC has bigger guards that can just go right around our shitty defenders.
Quote from: animal on Jan 09, 2025, 08:36 AMArguably Davis is just not getting the shot opportunities. He was 4-9 in FG and 4-4 at the FT stripe on a night where nobody else could make shots. His defense isn't all that good though and he had some frustration fouls. Not sure what his overall +/- is and all that jazz.
Anyway I think it's already been noted by somebody else earlier in the season but if Fland has a off night we're probably not winning. The ball is in his hands a good 70% of our possessions and I'm pulling that number out of my ass but that's probably about right.
Wagner flopping on the same night as Fland really killed us. I think he's ok at times but he's just not overly consistent. It seems like everyone in the SEC has bigger guards that can just go right around our shitty defenders.
Wagner started out great, and then collapsed like the rest of the team.
Boogie was coming up short on everything. He looked tired.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 09, 2025, 08:44 AMWagner started out great, and then collapsed like the rest of the team.
Boogie was coming up short on everything. He looked tired.
Fland had 37 minutes last night, and Wagner 39. Maybe Boogie needs a few minutes early to get his breath back and see the game from a different perspective. Same with Wagner.
The last few non-conference games we looked like we had figured out how to score against a zone. We were getting the ball into the late just inside the FT lane and making shots or collapsing the defense. Last night, especially in the second half, we reverted back to what we were doing at the beginning of the year...passing the ball from point to wing and back, then jacking a contested three.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 09, 2025, 07:54 AMPeople have made a big deal about Davis not showing up, but to me Aidoo is the biggest WTF.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but I thought we were getting the guy who went for 23 and 12 against us last year, not the reincarnation of late stage Lee Wilson. I wonder if we didn't do a medical evaluation on him (and Davis) before handing them a seven figure NIL payment. Aidoo lumbers around out there like he's slow, unathletic, and completely lost.
The Arkansas Sports Curse broke two of the most prized transfers in the nation. I no longer doubt its power. It's something every year.
Last night was the first game I really felt we made poor shot selections. A lot of late clock situations.
If there is a positive, we only lost by 7 despite a really poor effort on defense. No urgency on offense and poor shot selection. This team is better than they played last night.
I started walking out of the arena with about a minute left but did we really not try to foul to extend the game? I don't understand that.
Not filling out the entire roster made zero sense.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 09, 2025, 08:57 AMLast night was the first game I really felt we made poor shot selections. A lot of late clock situations.
If there is a positive, we only lost by 7 despite a really poor effort on defense. No urgency on offense and poor shot selection. This team is better than they played last night.
I am sure it will be fine by March. ::)
Hopefully we are still playing.
I will say this, after much weeping and gnashing of teeth last night, this morning I went back and looked at our records to start SEC play, generally the first 4-5 games, since it went to a 18-game schedule in 2012-13.
Only two teams started better than 2-2 or 1-3 in league play (2015-16 and 2019-20) and neither of those made the NCAAT. Obviously there was no tourney to make in '20.
That being said, Mike and Muss teams rallied from horrendous starts (like 1-4 and 1-5 multiple times) to make the NCAAT or even having winning league records.
I won't throw in the towel yet. I don't expect to beat Florida on Saturday, but if they can figure out how to win at LSU or Missouri, I think they could beat Georgia and Oklahoma back-to-back and they could be 3-4 at worst going into February.
Don't expect to win at UK. Texas on road will be winnable. Bama will probably break one off in us. We will beat LSU at home. At A&M is a tossup (depends on what Aggies team shows up) and then no chance at Aubie.
If we are, say, 5-8 going into that closing stretch of Mizzou, Texas, at S. Carolina, at Vandy and Mississippi State, I think we could win out before MSU at home. 9-9 would safely get us in dance.
Quote from: HughJasole on Jan 09, 2025, 12:36 PMI will say this, after much weeping and gnashing of teeth last night, this morning I went back and looked at our records to start SEC play, generally the first 4-5 games, since it went to a 18-game schedule in 2012-13.
Only two teams started better than 2-2 or 1-3 in league play (2015-16 and 2019-20) and neither of those made the NCAAT. Obviously there was no tourney to make in '20.
That being said, Mike and Muss teams rallied from horrendous starts (like 1-4 and 1-5 multiple times) to make the NCAAT or even having winning league records.
I won't throw in the towel yet. I don't expect to beat Florida on Saturday, but if they can figure out how to win at LSU or Missouri, I think they could beat Georgia and Oklahoma back-to-back and they could be 3-4 at worst going into February.
Don't expect to win at UK. Texas on road will be winnable. Bama will probably break one off in us. We will beat LSU at home. At A&M is a tossup (depends on what Aggies team shows up) and then no chance at Aubie.
If we are, say, 5-8 going into that closing stretch of Mizzou, Texas, at S. Carolina, at Vandy and Mississippi State, I think we could win out before MSU at home. 9-9 would safely get us in dance.
We'll destroy Florida and then drop a few more we should have won.
I'm just not seeing much right out of this bunch
Edit: but good news...we're gonna have a stripe out this weekend for Florida!
This is our penance for being able to poach beard from ole miss and all its great and historic basketball tradition (sarcasm on that last part).
This is g league ball.
Quote from: animal on Jan 09, 2025, 04:42 PMI'm just not seeing much right out of this bunch
Edit: but good news...we're gonna have a stripe out this weekend for Florida!
Prison stripes as we get prison raped.
This is what we need to practice.
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Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 09, 2025, 07:52 PMThis is what we need to practice.
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Fundamentals of defense and offense are a lost art. I don't think coaches who have been coaching for 15 years or less know how to teach help side defense.
Bobby Knight coached people heppin'? hmmm
Sounds familiar
https://x.com/sethdavishoops/status/1877528237309329629?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 09, 2025, 10:27 PMSounds familiar
https://x.com/sethdavishoops/status/1877528237309329629?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
I fear that the apathy part is ingrained in our culture now. I'm thinking I'm going to join them and just not give a shit about college sports.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 09, 2025, 07:38 AMIvisic = hte suxs
Aidoo = hte suxs
Davis = hte suks
Fland = good, nothing special
Knox = good, nothing special
Thiero = awesome, need more like him
Brazile = good, hustles his butt off which I appreciate
Wagner = Okay, plays above his talent level at times
Everyone else = not good
Coach Cal = should have hired the current Kentucky coach
And that folks, is your 15 games into the season review.
What is "hte"?
spelling error. Can either be "the" or "he". You get to decide.
If anyone had told me that the women's basketball team would have more SEC victories than the men's basketball team after 3 games...I'd have said get the fuck outta here.
Bobby Knight sums up our season at the 0:40 mark. This should be played on the big board after every loss.
https://youtu.be/F5p9gi43Hns?si=83lHHqwMj-AglaHw
Arkansas has killed John Calipari...I have an odd sense of satisfaction about that.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Jan 19, 2025, 06:33 AMcomments are brutal
"I just feel like the game has passed John Calipari and his staff by. And they do not make adjustments. And they don't know what they're doing. And I'm not sure he really cares."
Yeah that sums it up. Pray that Cal retires after this season.
If he were to retire we'd just have to count on Yurachek to make another hire.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 19, 2025, 07:38 AMIf he were to retire we'd just have to count on Yurachek to make another hire.
I think seeing Tyson tell Yurachek to hire Calipari and former players telling him to hire BLS, Yurachek is not really making the hires.
So he's inept AND spineless.
Literally everyone, both on and off this board, were praising the Cal hire.
I believe even the Wiopig CFO was saying "We're so fucking back!"
The hire wasn't some Yuri issue. What he does going forward will be though.
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Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 19, 2025, 09:08 AMLiterally everyone, both on and off this board, were praising the Cal hire.
I believe even the Wiopig CFO was saying "We're so fucking back!"
The hire wasn't some Yuri issue. What he does going forward will be though.
Don't know that I would say that. I was somewhat optimistic that maybe this was going to be a new challenge for him and it would get the juices flowing. I'm not hitting the panic button yet. I think with these transfers what we've seen from both Muss and now Cal is it can be a real bugger when it goes wrong. You can't have two of your "experienced" high money transfers end up being complete duds and nothing at the end of the bench that could be confused for an option.
I will give him a pass this year as he had to damn near recruit a whole team from scratch. Next year, results need to be shown.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 19, 2025, 09:30 AMI will give him a pass this year as he had to damn near recruit a whole team from scratch. Next year, results need to be shown.
That's not really true though. This is more or less the same team he would have had at Kentucky this season.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 19, 2025, 09:30 AMI will give him a pass this year as he had to damn near recruit a whole team from scratch. Next year, results need to be shown.
Same here. This year is a wash IMO. Next year will be a complete 180 and we'll damn good.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 19, 2025, 09:33 AMThat's not really true though. This is more or less the same team he would have had at Kentucky this season.
There is no chance Kentucky would be this bad had he and these players stayed at Kentucky.
With each passing day I'm more convinced that we are a cursed fan base.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 19, 2025, 10:16 AMThere is no chance Kentucky would be this bad had he and these players stayed at Kentucky.
With each passing day I'm more convinced that we are a cursed fan base.
I believe bof a deez points.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 19, 2025, 10:16 AMThere is no chance Kentucky would be this bad had he and these players stayed at Kentucky.
With each passing day I'm more convinced that we are a cursed fan base.
Maybe not worse but we have a better win/loss record than Kentucky over the last five seasons. We hired a coach who always did less with more for the most part and his best days are way behind him.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Jan 19, 2025, 09:38 AMSame here. This year is a wash IMO. Next year will be a complete 180 and we'll damn good.
Acuff seems like more of a distributor than Boogie. If he and Thomas live up to the hype we should at least be decent.
He needs to kill it in the portal recruiting big men. And when I say kill it I mean much better evaluations and signing 10-11 legit players. He also needs to shake up his staff and bring back his offensive guru who RUNNOFT to the west coast.
This team is Exhibit A against the argument that NIL funding is the determining factor in winning. Without superior, or at least competent, coaching it doesn't mean shit.
I think getting the offensive guru (John Welch, who is at Fresno now) or getting any kind of specialized offensive assistant is the most important thing. That's the only way I'm buying back in at this point. Cal can't coach and no one on this staff can either.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 19, 2025, 09:30 AMI will give him a pass this year as he had to damn near recruit a whole team from scratch. Next year, results need to be shown.
So did Kentucky and with less "talent".
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 19, 2025, 11:22 AMAcuff seems like more of a distributor than Boogie. If he and Thomas live up to the hype we should at least be decent.
He needs to kill it in the portal recruiting big men. And when I say kill it I mean much better evaluations and signing 10-11 legit players. He also needs to shake up his staff and bring back his offensive guru who RUNNOFT to the west coast.
This team is Exhibit A against the argument that NIL funding is the determining factor in winning. Without superior, or at least competent, coaching it doesn't mean shit.
Completely different in basketball than football. Far more parity and 1 or 2 players make a significant impact. You don't see upsets in football like basketball either.
Coaches matter but you better have equal level talent.
Quote from: aaron on Jan 19, 2025, 11:55 AMSo did Kentucky and with less "talent".
KY went older. They have 1 freshman that is lucky to see 10 mins a game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 19, 2025, 11:58 AMCompletely different in basketball than football. Far more parity and 1 or 2 players make a significant impact. You don't see upsets in football like basketball either.
Coaches matter but you better have equal level talent.
::)
Do you think LSU and Mizzou had equal talent?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 19, 2025, 11:58 AMCompletely different in basketball than football. Far more parity and 1 or 2 players make a significant impact. You don't see upsets in football like basketball either.
Coaches matter but you better have equal level talent.
Comparable talent is required. Not necessarily equal.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 19, 2025, 01:02 PM::)
Do you think LSU and Mizzou had equal talent?
Fland will start more NBA games on his rookie contract than the entire LSU and Missouri rosters combined will spend on an active roster in their careers.
My disciples are out there loyally challenging the establishment.
https://x.com/charliespoppie/status/1881004398677295568
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 19, 2025, 01:59 PMFland will start more NBA games on his rookie contract than the entire LSU and Missouri rosters combined will spend on an active roster in their careers.
Fland is currently preparing for the "work load management" part of that NBA career.
Best of luck, Boogie!
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 19, 2025, 01:02 PM::)
Do you think LSU and Mizzou had equal talent?
There is a far less talent gap in basketball than football. Even before the transfer portal you had teams like George Mason make a final four. You will never see that in football. Damn near every team in D1 basketball has someone good enough to play for Arkansas.
Mizz has talent. Bates is very good and Mitchell was a 5* that everyone wanted out of HS. Grill is older than some posters on this board. Mizz went 0-18 in conference last year and are 4-1 now. What changed? They got better talent.
LSU less so but they had by far the best player on the floor in Carr. Collins was a 5* that Muss wanted that ended up at KY.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 19, 2025, 09:30 AMI will give him a pass this year as he had to damn near recruit a whole team from scratch. Next year, results need to be shown.
This. I think hiring a coaching staff spur of the moment was as big a problem as roster. If Davis and Aidoo hadn't been struck by the Arkansas curse, the roster looked good to begin the year.
we have good talent, but not a good team. we're getting beat by guys that can understand and stick to a game plan.
Quote from: vegashog on Jan 19, 2025, 03:23 PMwe have good talent, but not a good team. we're getting beat by guys that can understand and stick to a game plan.
Agree for the most part. I don't know that I'd say they can't stick to a game plan but more so we don't really have a game plan. We don't shoot a lot of 3s. We don't pound it inside. We try getting to the rim but have been awful at converting layups and we don't get to the line enough. We have nothing we can hang our hat on. We can't say "if we play our game, we'll win". No one knows what thet is. It's bizarre.
We have 3 guards who basically play the same position. They're all primary ball guys.
We have Brazile and Aidoo who basically play the same position. They're not back to the basket but rather clean up guys. I'm actually not sure what we do with Z. But he's finesse like Brazile too.
Richmond and Knox just aren't it. They're lower level McDonald's All-Americans like we usually get. See Baye Fall or Glendon Alexander.
That's not good roster construction and just can't happen again.
Quote from: red death on Jan 19, 2025, 07:12 PMWe have 3 guards who basically play the same position. They're all primary ball guys.
We have Brazile and Aidoo who basically play the same position. They're not back to the basket but rather clean up guys. I'm actually not sure what we do with Z. But he's finesse like Brazile too.
Richmond and Knox just aren't it. They're lower level McDonald's All-Americans like we usually get. See Baye Fall or Glendon Alexander.
That's not good roster construction and just can't happen again.
Richmond and Knox are the kind of guys who need to be in the 10-12 spots on the roster. Both have talent, and could blossom the way Thiero has as sophomores or juniors. We shouldn't be counting on them as much as we have to right now.
I have absolutely no reason to base this on other than the eye test. I'm assuming we are going against teams that have rosters full of experienced players and not a bunch of diaper dandy types.
Our roster is not as young as our local media is making it out to be...it's only young in that we're depending on a freshman to play hero ball. Have very little in the way of physicality beyond Adoo Theiro who going up against grown ass mens in the SEC suddenly doesn't look nearly as physical as he was going against North Texas or whatever. I believe he's a 2nd year player so he's still fairly young in his development. Big Z didn't play much last season and he's a Connor Vanover hair cut away from being a very viable option for...Vanderbilt.
I love Richmond and feel like we should be letting him play thru his mistakes. His energy gets him in trouble with fouls. He's like a young way better and bigger version of Devo if that makes any sense. I think he's got great upside.
Knox should probably be stuffed down in the paint until he learns how to shoot consistently.
Wagner and Davis are just nothing burgers most of the time but as has been said we've got 3 guards that all basically do the same thing.
None of these guys play well together. Brazile dives on the floor and 4 of our guys look at him and jog up the floor. That pretty much says it all.
Complete lack of heart on this and last year's team. Losing doesn't seem to bother them all that much.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 19, 2025, 02:15 PMMy disciples are out there loyally challenging the establishment.
https://x.com/charliespoppie/status/1881004398677295568
WHY HAS THIS NOT BEEN DONE???
Hunter needs to quit tweeting and making stupid videos and get that statue unveiled ASAP.
Coach more than deserves it and he is not getting any younger.
100% agree
https://youtu.be/ZttFcThCdpA?si=XOKFGnHtYAbkT9jN
Small roster that is hit with injuries, it is obvious they aren't scrimmaging in practice.
You can not win with freshmen vs covid seniors that are 5 and 6 years older.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jan 19, 2025, 08:05 PMComplete lack of heart on this and last year's team. Losing doesn't seem to bother them all that much.
They get paid either way.
https://x.com/bbn_memes/status/1881372075522465953?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Ouch.
We'll probably beat Georgia and Oklahoma to get a couple of wins.
Then we'll spend the week off speculating on ways we can go to Kentucky and win.
We will proceed to go to Rupp and get the doors blown off by 35.
Quote from: mde114 on Jan 20, 2025, 03:19 PMhttps://x.com/bbn_memes/status/1881372075522465953?s=46&t=FHt3TXiQXntEfO1EaA49XQ
Ouch.
damn...
I saw literally 30 seconds of the game Saturday. We had a chance to cut it to 9 and then committed 2 turnovers and it was back to 13.Hope Calipari can figure it out, but until he does, I'll just watch the Thunder instead. Joe and Williams playing pretty big roles and they are just a lot more fun to watch.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 19, 2025, 07:44 PMRichmond and Knox are the kind of guys who need to be in the 10-12 spots on the roster. Both have talent, and could blossom the way Thiero has as sophomores or juniors. We shouldn't be counting on them as much as we have to right now.
Exactly. That's on Calipari. He only went after 9 guys. So he looked at those 2 coming in and said "yeah we're good."
That's what concerns me.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 20, 2025, 04:10 PMWe'll probably beat Georgia and Oklahoma to get a couple of wins.
Then we'll spend the week off speculating on ways we can go to Kentucky and win.
We will proceed to go to Rupp and get the doors blown off by 35.
I pray this happens. 2 wins in a row would be an absolute godsend. And probably get us back to bubble contention.
Damn
https://www.hoopshq.com/sec/john-calipari-and-arkansas-outdated-according-to-opposing-coaches
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 20, 2025, 11:06 PMDamn
https://www.hoopshq.com/sec/john-calipari-and-arkansas-outdated-according-to-opposing-coaches
Let's see -
Davis is lost
Roster is weirdly constructed
Paying $ doesn't assure success
Time appears to have passed Cal by
Can't get anything past those anonymous "SEC coaches"
Woopigs already had all this covered.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 21, 2025, 05:56 AMLet's see -
Davis is lost
Roster is weirdly constructed
Paying $ doesn't assure success
Time appears to have passed Cal by
Can't get anything past those anonymous "SEC coaches"
Woopigs already had all this covered.
Disagree with his take that Fland hasn't panned out. He's had a rough 3-4 games but he's still our best player and a first round pick.
Wagner is what he was at Kentucky for the most part. The best player on the floor for stretches, then lost for other equally long period. If you were expecting a star he's a disappointment, but if your expectations were realistic (solid SEC guard, decent shooter and defender) he's met them.
I don't think it's fair to fully blame Cal for Davis being ass so far. Some of his problems are role related, but he's also lacked urgency and focus. How do you give a bigger role to a guy who dribbles the ball off his leg unguarded in the backcourt, calls inexplicable timeouts, and just basically hangs out looking for threes? It's a catch-22...maybe making him the focus offensively brings him out of his funk, but if it doesn't the losses just get worse.
Right now I'd take Thiero over Boogie. But that could be a product of watching Boogie brick approximately 100 contested 18 foot jumpshots in the last four games.
With Nil$ and less restrictions allowing guys to play longer, we gonna have to get some men's. Even our bigs get pushed around like a wet noodle.
Quote from: Borenutz on Jan 21, 2025, 09:57 AMwe gonna have to get some men's
We've been saying this for 30 years now.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 21, 2025, 10:59 AMWe've been saying this for 30 years now.
Man. Ain't that the truth. Ever since grandmama pushed Todd Day around we've been saying this.
Quote from: Guardrail on Jan 21, 2025, 11:07 AMMan. Ain't that the truth. Ever since grandmama pushed Todd Day around we've been saying this.
Corliss was that dude. Used to lift weights before tipoff. We'll probably never have another one like him, at least a guy like that with actual skills.
It's really simple.
Break the curse.
Build the statue.
Quote from: RPL on Jan 21, 2025, 05:58 PMIt's really simple.
Break the curse.
Build the statue.
Say it louder for the retards in the BAC.
I bet Bud Walton is going to be rocking for an 8 pm tip with Georgia tomorrow night.
Quote from: Borenutz on Jan 21, 2025, 09:20 PMI bet Bud Walton is going to be rocking for an 8 pm tip with Georgia tomorrow night.
I know I can't wait to watch 20 minutes and then head to bed.
https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1881908541755404485
Very Nick Smith-esque
Well shit
Whatever.
Supposedly having surgery tomorrow.
Quote from: Guardrail on Jan 21, 2025, 09:43 PMVery Nick Smith-esque
Exactly what I was thinking.
At least it didn't keep us on the edge of our seat wondering if the dunks in the layup line was indicative of a "healed knee or not".
Quote from: RPL on Jan 21, 2025, 05:58 PMIt's really simple.
Break the curse.
Build the statue.
I don't know if building the statue will do the trick, but we are definitely cursed.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 21, 2025, 10:03 PMSupposedly having surgery tomorrow.
If true he certainly doesn't deserve the Nick Smith comparison
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 22, 2025, 06:00 AMIf true he certainly doesn't deserve the Nick Smith comparison
Yeah, Nick Smith came back and played in a season that wasn't nearly as much of a disaster as this one is.
Can anybody see Calipari sticking around for this more than a few seasons? I mean unlike some of the other turds we overpaid to hang around before, he has a Hall of Fame legacy to protect. He'll want to get out before his past accomplishments are overshadowed and obliterated by this suckitude. So no matter how comfortable he is with that large paycheck, I can't see him piling his career on a pyre and striking a match for a few dollars more.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 22, 2025, 06:00 AMIf true he certainly doesn't deserve the Nick Smith comparison
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Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jan 22, 2025, 06:31 AMCan anybody see Calipari sticking around for this more than a few seasons? I mean unlike some of the other turds we overpaid to hang around before, he has a Hall of Fame legacy to protect. He'll want to get out before his past accomplishments are overshadowed and obliterated by this suckitude. So no matter how comfortable he is with that large paycheck, I can't see him piling his career on a pyre and striking a match for a few dollars more.
We didn't get peak Calipari. We got a coach who has had the game pass him by, he has been on the decline for years now. Arkansas has a better win/loss record than Kentucky over the last five seasons. He's already in the HoF, how much can his legacy really be tainted here? He'll be happy to collect big checks while we do less with more on the court.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 22, 2025, 06:36 AMWe didn't get peak Calipari. We got a coach who has had the game pass him by, he has been on the decline for years now. Arkansas has a better win/loss record than Kentucky over the last five seasons. He's already in the HoF, how much can his legacy really be tainted here? He'll be happy to collect big checks while we do less with more on the court.
Maybe, but I kind of doubt it.
I have this impulsive thing where I keep looking at the roster thinking surely there's something on that bench. Shirley. That one kid Casmir Chavis hasn't played at all this season near as I can tell...he was regarded as a "D1 talent" coming out of the Minnesota high school ranks was player of the year up there according some publication, think he's been in street clothes so there may be no plans for him this season. Maybe he's hurt or maybe he's not cleared to play...no idea. Maybe he had to sit out the first semester?
I think we need to get smaller though because we really suck with lateral quickness with these "bigs" on the floor together.
Start
Wagner, Davis, Knox, Theiro, Brazile.
Off bench
Richmond, Aidoo, and Z
Extra player really depends on availability but as of now I figure it'll be Cal's pet Wilkins instead of Sanchez or Karuletwa both of whom can really shoot it (allegedly)
Chavis played in the Maryland Eastern Shore game. That was the only game where the scrubs played and we had to be up 60 points before Cal decided to put them in. I don't think the end of the bench guys will get any run even with Boogie gone. Apparently Billy Richmond is going to play backup point. We are fucked.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Jan 21, 2025, 09:41 PMhttps://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1881908541755404485
I've never heard of a basketball player, at the midpoint of the season, injuring their hand so bad as to need surgery. What did he break?
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 22, 2025, 06:36 AMWe didn't get peak Calipari. We got a coach who has had the game pass him by, he has been on the decline for years now. Arkansas has a better win/loss record than Kentucky over the last five seasons. He's already in the HoF, how much can his legacy really be tainted here? He'll be happy to collect big checks while we do less with more on the court.
I look for Cal to "Saban" after a year or two. The whole college sports collective is fucked because of the NIL fiasco. Older coaches are rich enough to say screw it, and leap into retirement or broadcasting.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Jan 22, 2025, 09:36 AMI look for Cal to "Saban" after a year or two. The whole college sports collective is fucked because of the NIL fiasco. Older coaches are rich enough to say screw it, and leap into retirement or broadcasting.
Nah. NIL was always a thing in Cal's world. Right now it looks like the only part of his job he's good at performing.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 22, 2025, 08:22 AMI've never heard of a basketball player, at the midpoint of the season, injuring their hand so bad as to need surgery. What did he break?
Is this a joke? You've never, ever heard of a hand injury in basketball?
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Jan 22, 2025, 01:13 PMIs this a joke? You've never, ever heard of a hand injury in basketball?
Name a few for us.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 22, 2025, 01:20 PMName a few for us.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/basketball-mens/2025/01/21/milan-momcilovic-injury-update-hand-surgery-iowa-state-basketball-cyclones/77861971007/
https://www.nba.com/news/trae-young-hand-injury
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39655129/sources-clippers-russell-westbrook-surgery-left-hand
and for the WooPigs...https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/41196082/angel-reese-explains-wrist-injury-says-surgery
Milan, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Trae, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Westrbrook, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Boogie, out for the rest of the season after hand surgery.
Again, what did he break?
Also, I get that I wrote a semi retarded thing by saying I've never heard of a player damaging a hand during season. I get that it happens. Shutting it down for the season seems to be very rare though.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 22, 2025, 02:15 PMMilan, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Trae, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Westrbrook, out 4-6 weeks after hand surgery
Boogie, out for the rest of the season after hand surgery.
Again, what did he break?
Also, I get that I wrote a semi retarded thing by saying I've never heard of a player damaging a hand during season. I get that it happens. Shutting it down for the season seems to be very rare though.
6 weeks puts it into the first week of March. Maybe his is 8-10 weeks? I don't know. The way the guy has played this year, I just don't believe this is a Nick Smith situation.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 22, 2025, 02:15 PMShutting it down for the season seems to be very rare though.
I agree with your skepticism. Per Cal, Boogie injured the wrist/hand during the Florida game. So he plays in Ole Miss and Mizzou game, is our leading shot-taker in both those games, all with a wrist/hand that needs surgery?
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 22, 2025, 02:50 PM6 weeks puts it into the first week of March. Maybe his is 8-10 weeks? I don't know. The way the guy has played this year, I just don't believe this is a Nick Smith situation.
I'm not disagreeing at all. I would like to know what he damaged and when it happened. To Cardiac's point, he has been playing wtih the injury for weeks now. It doesn't sound like he broke or tore something significant eough that he couldn't play if pushed.
I will hold the opinon that if we were top 10 and being talked about as a 1 or 2 seed then he would still be playing.
I also will hold that opinion that as an internet persona and general dumbass fan, I'm talking out of my butt.
he tried to make a go at it. wth is wrong about that?
look at his shooting percentage drop and it's obvious something was wrong. why make it out to be more than what it is?
Well, the Woopig braintrust has labeled all these guys as soft and not giving a crap due to they get paid regardless. What is wrong with thinking a guy "might" be shutting it down because he plays on a crappy team and he is going to get paid regardless?
Boogie made a business decision.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jan 22, 2025, 02:50 PM6 weeks puts it into the first week of March. Maybe his is 8-10 weeks? I don't know. The way the guy has played this year, I just don't believe this is a Nick Smith situation.
Do we all remember Nick Smith came back and played the rest of the season for us? Because it doesn't seem like anyone does.
Never understood the hate that kid got. He was injured and got healthy enough to come back and play. Not many kid's would've done that. Especially with all rhe shit he got from the fans.
Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Jan 22, 2025, 02:52 PMI agree with your skepticism. Per Cal, Boogie injured the wrist/hand during the Florida game. So he plays in Ole Miss LSU and Mizzou game, is our leading shot-taker in both those games, all with a wrist/hand that needs surgery?
Be sure and get in before there's a run on them...
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Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 22, 2025, 04:06 PMNever understood the hate that kid got. He was injured and got healthy enough to come back and play. Not many kid's would've done that. Especially with all rhe shit he got from the fans.
And he actually had some loyalty to his home state. I don't have anything against Boogie but these guys didn't come to play for Arkansas, they came to play for Cal.
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I think I speak for at least 3 woopigers that you don't need a thumb to play shitty basketball.
Quote from: Rick B. on Jan 22, 2025, 06:34 PM[url="https://www.woopig.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=8791;type=preview;file"]20250122_182754.jpg[/url]
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Quote from: animal on Jan 22, 2025, 06:40 PMI think I speak for at least 3 woopigers that you don't need a thumb to play shitty basketball.
Thumbs are way over valued. After all, he has two.
If he were a real balla shot calla he would learn to shoot left handed.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Jan 22, 2025, 07:27 PM
Without even watching, from the No Shit Sherlock files.
I would be angry if anyone tried to argue it is a success.
The worst part about this shit show is it's happening after we brought back Slobber Hog.
Now I guess those are just tears.
Sobbing Hog
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 22, 2025, 09:03 PMThe worst part about this shit show is it's happening after we brought back Slobber Hog.
Now I guess those are just tears.
Pretending to hold it hostage unless the fans ponied up another $500k probably gave us another curse.
Still nowhere near as bad as the curse from not building Nolan a statue because the ones running the university wanted to be racist and/or petty assholes.
Quote from: Trigger7672 on Jan 22, 2025, 05:25 PMAnd he actually had some loyalty to his home state. I don't have anything against Boogie but these guys didn't come to play for Arkansas, they came to play for Cal.
Most players go to play for a coach, not the university itself, in every sport.
So humor me...
After the all-time fight roster I constructed in the other thread, later my ADHD mind got into thinking about players/rosters in general for like an hour going back to the Natty team. So off the top of my head I built a 10-deep at (roughly) each position. 50 players total. Then I went back and drafted from that pool like each team was my own personal fantasy team, snake format. OK maybe it was closer to 2 hours. And I'm sure I missed a few obvious ones that should have been in the pool.
Anyway, the following is the result. Which teams make your 4-team playoff? Which is the best? I can't decide.
Team 1:
Jalen Tate
Brandon Dean
Joe Johnson
Thiero
Darnell Robinson
Team 2:
Fortson
Mason Jones
Barford
Corliss
Nick Davis
Team 3:
Macon
TJ Cleveland
Umude
Jordan Walsh
Portis
Team 4:
Beck
Notae
RC4
AD Toney
Gafford
Team 5:
Pargo
Clint McDaniel
Moody
Marshawn Powell
Moses Kingsley
Team 6:
AB
Dusty Hannahs
Qualls
Derek Hood
Darian Townes
Team 7:
BJ Young
Pat Bradley
Ronnie Brewer
Sunday Adebayo
Steven Hill
Team 8:
Boogie
Rotnei Clarke
Jimmy Whitt
Sonny Weems
Jaylin Williams
Team 9:
NSJ
P.Bev
Modica
Charles Thomas
Mike Washington
Team 10:
Kareem Reid
Ike Joe
Thurman
Justin Smith
Lee Wilson
Nice efforting.
I'll take team 9 to win it
No shit. Great list!
I'm taking team 4. Tough on defense and fun as shit to watch RC4 and Gafford.
No Athony Black?
Nevermind. I are reading no good.
No Mario Credit?
Your list is invalid
Quote from: Bogey7 on Jan 23, 2025, 08:41 PMNo Athony Black?
Nevermind. I are reading no good.
I wanted Thomas to go against Corliss. Maybe he could slow him down just a bit.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jan 23, 2025, 08:58 PMNo Mario Credit?
Your list is invalid
It's players since the 1993-94 national championship team. Maybe you meant Joe Dean Davenport.
After much overthinking, I am leaning towards Team 2.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 23, 2025, 09:19 PMIt's players since the 1993-94 national championship team. Maybe you meant Joe Dean Davenport.
😃Great list.
Team 4 is going to be pretty damn salty. Some Dogs on that team.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 23, 2025, 09:20 PMAfter much overthinking, I am leaning towards Team 2.
Team 2's last year stats:
Courtney Fortson G 5-11 17.9 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 5.7 Ast, 1.4 Stl, 0.2 Blk
Mason Jones G 6-5 22.0 Pts, 5.5 Reb, 3.4 Ast, 1.6 Stl, 0.2 Blk
Jaylen Barford G 6-3 17.9 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 2.5 Ast, 1.0 Stl, 0.3 Blk
Corliss Williamson F 6-7 19.7 Pts, 7.5 Reb, 2.3 Ast, 1.7 Stl, 0.8 Blk
Nick Davis F 6-9 10.4 Pts, 9.8 Reb, 1.2 Ast, 1.3 Stl, 2.4 Blk
I would have guessed Barford's rebounding and steals numbers were higher than that. He was a dawg.
Also would have guessed Corliss's rebounding was higher.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 23, 2025, 07:40 PMSo humor me...
Bravo! This should get it's own thread.
Team 4
Man, we haven't had many good big men.
Team one and team ten. Joe Johnson and Thiero would be tough. Same with Thurman, Joe and J Smith.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 23, 2025, 09:49 PMTeam 2's last year stats:
Courtney Fortson G 5-11 17.9 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 5.7 Ast, 1.4 Stl, 0.2 Blk
Mason Jones G 6-5 22.0 Pts, 5.5 Reb, 3.4 Ast, 1.6 Stl, 0.2 Blk
Jaylen Barford G 6-3 17.9 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 2.5 Ast, 1.0 Stl, 0.3 Blk
Corliss Williamson F 6-7 19.7 Pts, 7.5 Reb, 2.3 Ast, 1.7 Stl, 0.8 Blk
Nick Davis F 6-9 10.4 Pts, 9.8 Reb, 1.2 Ast, 1.3 Stl, 2.4 Blk
I would have guessed Barford's rebounding and steals numbers were higher than that. He was a dawg.
Also would have guessed Corliss's rebounding was higher.
If they had a better 5 than Davis, this team would go undefeated in a round robin tournament.
He would get abused by every other 5 listed and Corliss would struggle the as a result.
I don't know who RC4 is.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 24, 2025, 12:13 AMMan, we haven't had many good big men.
How dare you besmirch the good name of Larry Satchell!*
*author's note: fouled out before the draft even started.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Jan 24, 2025, 02:48 PMHow dare you besmirch the good name of Larry Satchell!*
*author's note: fouled out before the draft even started.
I remember one time he was shooting free throws at the end of the first half. He banged it off the backboard so hard the rebound came back to him with time on the clock. He clanged the follow up shot even worse as time expired. They went back to the studio where the main guy said deadpan, "We'll have a little bit longer halftime than usual while we repair the backboard from those two bricks Satchell just shot". :D
At least at the HPER, when you choose a pick up team that doesn't work, you get the instant remedy of having to sit out when you lose, and getting to re-choose about 15 minutes later.
In college basketball when you choose a pick up team that doesn't work, you're stuck for the whole fucking year.
It's almost like the old system of building programs with four and five year plans was better or something. Crazy I know.
https://x.com/RespectDaGoat/status/1883632856548995257
Is there a Part 2 to the story? Because I don't understand Part 1.
She told Hunter he sucked. He couldn't hear her over the sound of his own gargling though.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 26, 2025, 07:03 PMIs there a Part 2 to the story? Because I don't understand Part 1.
Did you click the link?
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 26, 2025, 07:06 PMDid you click the link?
Yessirree Bob.
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Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 26, 2025, 07:08 PMYessirree Bob.
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So then you were shown part 2.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 26, 2025, 07:14 PMSo then you were shown part 2.
Do you see Part 2 in my screenshot? I only see the exact same tweet, followed by some comments that don't add anything.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jan 26, 2025, 07:15 PMDo you see Part 2 in my screenshot? I only see the exact same tweet, followed by some comments that don't add anything.
The first reply is by the original poster, as the continuation of the quote. He ran out of characters in the first one.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jan 26, 2025, 07:00 PMhttps://x.com/RespectDaGoat/status/1883632856548995257
Getting the seats where your back is to everyone - $40,000
Affirming your value by seeing your face on a screen - Priceless
Here's a little pro tip for everyone. Once they intentionally price everyone out after selling all of the season tickets to corporations, buy the cheapest single game ticket available on stubhub for the game you want to go to, and then go sit wherever the hell you want in what will be a half empty lower section. Fuck season tickets and fuck Yurachek.
It's gonna be a real bad look for Cal to go into Rupp and get his pants pulled down. I feel bad for the players but don't really feel anything about this coach and his has-been list of assistants. It still feels like we have Kentucky's old coach and Kentucky's players that couldn't play at Kentucky. This entire season is gonna go down like a fish out of water...well it already has. The organ transplant has been rejected and the body is dying. No amount of Chicken nuggets can wash it away.
Quote from: animal on Jan 29, 2025, 06:32 PMIt's gonna be a real bad look for Cal to go into Rupp and get his pants pulled down. I feel bad for the players but don't really feel anything about this coach and his has-been list of assistants. It still feels like we have Kentucky's old coach and Kentucky's players that couldn't play at Kentucky. This entire season is gonna go down like a fish out of water...well it already has. The organ transplant has been rejected and the body is dying. No amount of Chicken nuggets can wash it away.
You're a better man than me. I don't feel at all bad for these players.
Quote from: mde114 on Jan 29, 2025, 08:27 PMYou're a better man than me. I don't feel at all bad for these players.
none of them. They have talent ( I guess) they just don't care. They know they need to spend a year getting paid, laid, and eating like kings before they move on to the league.
If they don't get drafted they'll stay for more getting paid and laid, or go to another school and do the same. They don't care about the school, the jersey, my fat old self hoping they'll shoot better tonight.
NIL has ruined college sports. For me anyway.
I wonder if that fancy shooting trainer they've been promoting all year has wrecked some of our players.
I'd imagine telling a five star player he's been shooting the ball wrong his whole life could mess things up.
Like a golfer changing his swing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it turns Davis into the worst shooter on the team.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 30, 2025, 06:01 AMI wonder if that fancy shooting trainer they've been promoting all year has wrecked some of our players.
I'd imagine telling a five star player he's been shooting the ball wrong his whole life could mess things up.
Like a golfer changing his swing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it turns Davis into the worst shooter on the team.
Good point.
Hell, half of our players played at Kentucky last year...maybe they can find the fuckin' goal in Lexington.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 30, 2025, 06:01 AMI wonder if that fancy shooting trainer they've been promoting all year has wrecked some of our players.
I'd imagine telling a five star player he's been shooting the ball wrong his whole life could mess things up.
Like a golfer changing his swing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it turns Davis into the worst shooter on the team.
Or a hitting coach telling a ..... ah shit.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Jan 30, 2025, 06:01 AMI wonder if that fancy shooting trainer they've been promoting all year has wrecked some of our players.
I'd imagine telling a five star player he's been shooting the ball wrong his whole life could mess things up.
Like a golfer changing his swing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it turns Davis into the worst shooter on the team.
I've had the same thoughts. Instead of just shooting the ball, players are concentrating too much on mechanics. A lot like a golfer with a dozen swing thoughts going through his head. And yes, generally golf lessons that actually change something significant in your swing make you a lot worse before you get better. Some guys have ruined their careers changing their swings to get "better". They never got it back.
In my opinion, that sort of thing needs to be worked on in the offseason and then turned off and forgotten about during the season. At least in college where there aren't 80 games and six months of season.
The NOAH system does not change your mechanics. It just tells you the arch of your shot, measures left/right of the rim, and measures the depth of the shot. If you have a certain degree of arch. hit center of the rim, and center depth, it considers it to be the "perfect" shot. That's it.
From there it just keeps accumulated stats.
Cal said earlier this year he doesn't mess with kid's mechanics during the season. He mentioned he had told Nelly to just shoot with a little more arch but didn't tell him to change any mechanics.
Either way it's something to blame shit on when things aren't going well. Did the other 17 SEC teams only sign 9 real players?
It is a wonder sports survived thousnds of years without all the technology. Amazing really.
Today's game is clearly so much better thanks to the creation and use of sports biomechanics, ball tracking systems, hawk-eye tech, wearable tech and of course AI.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2025, 12:57 PMIt is a wonder sports survived thousnds of years without all the technology. Amazing really.
Today's game is clearly so much better thanks to the creation and use of sports biomechanics, ball tracking systems, hawk-eye tech, wearable tech and of course AI.
It's kind of eye opening to go back and watch some highlights of the Sutton years. Rarely do you see those teams shooting outside of 12-15 feet. Our best teams in those days usually had one designated zone buster...Marvin Delph was really the only one who was a fairly complete player.
I'm on the fence as to whether I like the three point shot. It adds a level of excitement, but teams that shoot nothing but layups/dunks or threes can be painful to watch when the shots aren't falling.
I agree it's overkill. Who gives a shit how accurate you make a shot. Only thing that matters is if you made it. Arch is the only that does matter but not as much as you would think.
What I hate about today's game is the lack of good passers. If I asked who is the best passer in the NBA is, most everyone would say Jokic. If I asked who is the best passing PG in today's game, you probably don't know.
I miss guys like Nash, Kidd, JWill, Strickland, Magic, etc. To me, a great pass is the most exciting play in basketball. It's a lost art now.
Mark Jackson wants some of that love. Very underrated pg, great passer.
That Pacers team probably wins a title or two if not for MJ.
Thought he was a solid coach too.
Same for the Jazz. Stockton was a pretty damn good point guard who could pass and shoot.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Jan 30, 2025, 07:45 AMHell, half of our players played at Kentucky last year...maybe they can find the fuckin' goal in Lexington.
It's basically a home game for them.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jan 30, 2025, 01:02 PMIt's kind of eye opening to go back and watch some highlights of the Sutton years. Rarely do you see those teams shooting outside of 12-15 feet. Our best teams in those days usually had one designated zone buster...Marvin Delph was really the only one who was a fairly complete player.
I'm on the fence as to whether I like the three point shot. It adds a level of excitement, but teams that shoot nothing but layups/dunks or threes can be painful to watch when the shots aren't falling.
Delph might have the scoring record at Arkansas if there had been a 3 point line.
Raising the basket to 11 feet and moving the 3 point line out is the only thing that will help. Size and physical ability has made the game boring.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2025, 01:34 PMWhat I hate about today's game is the lack of good passers. If I asked who is the best passer in the NBA is, most everyone would say Jokic. If I asked who is the best passing PG in today's game, you probably don't know.
I miss guys like Nash, Kidd, JWill, Strickland, Magic, etc. To me, a great pass is the most exciting play in basketball. It's a lost art now.
Curry, Fox, and Haliburton are good passing PGs in today's game but a lot of that gets overlooked as they also have to be the primary scorer on their respective teams.
Another three I've never cared for because of how they approached playing PG, but admittedly have done well, are Kyrie, Westbrook, and Harden.
An in-betweener in this group is CP3.
As far as a true passing PG in this century who never got the credit he deserved, I give you Rondo.
Quote from: Lurk on Jan 30, 2025, 03:44 PMRaising the basket to 11 feet and moving the 3 point line out is the only thing that will help. Size and physical ability has made the game boring.
Disagree on moving the line out. That will do irreparable harm to the game. Guys are already capable of shooting from almost half court. They don't because there is no incentive to do it.
They need to figure out how to get the 15-20 foot offense back into the game.
imagine running Nolan's 40 minutes of hell with Robertson and Walker as your guards. holy mother of turnover pressure!!!
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2025, 02:29 PMSame for the Jazz. Stockton was a pretty damn good point guard who could pass and shoot.
I was never a Jazz fan but Stockton may be the most underrated player ever. All-time assists AND steals leader and neither are close to ever being touched. But you never see him when people are constructing 3-deep rosters of all-time teams.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2025, 04:01 PMDisagree on moving the line out. That will do irreparable harm to the game. Guys are already capable of shooting from almost half court. They don't because there is no incentive to do it.
They need to figure out how to get the 15-20 foot offense back into the game.
Move the line out to at least 30 feet and only from the free thrown line extended. So the only three point shots are from way out and in the front. From the free thrown line extended to the basket there is no three point line.
Or just eliminate it altogether. I'm fine with that too although they'll never do it.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2025, 01:34 PMI agree it's overkill. Who gives a shit how accurate you make a shot. Only thing that matters is if you made it. Arch is the only that does matter but not as much as you would think.
What I hate about today's game is the lack of good passers. If I asked who is the best passer in the NBA is, most everyone would say Jokic. If I asked who is the best passing PG in today's game, you probably don't know.
I miss guys like Nash, Kidd, JWill, Strickland, Magic, etc. To me, a great pass is the most exciting play in basketball. It's a lost art now.
100% agree on the passing. It's an unfortunate result of the focus on perimeter shooting. Hardly anyone runs sets anymore that emphasize a guy cutting to the basket WITHOUT the ball.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 30, 2025, 04:44 PMimagine running Nolan's 40 minutes of hell with Robertson and Walker as your guards. holy mother of turnover pressure!!!
He had McDaniel, who was at least as good as Walker on defense.
Robertson was a once-in-a-generation lethal assassin though.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 30, 2025, 07:45 PMHe had McDaniel, who was at least as good as Walker on defense.
Robertson was a once-in-a-generation lethal assassin though.
On and off the court.
Lock down defender.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 31, 2025, 01:02 PMLock down defender.
Good at the ole Smash and Grab as well I think
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good lord, finebaum picks him to be on for a battle of high hairlined gas bags ??
Sad thing is there are worse choices.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 01, 2025, 09:37 PMgood lord, finebaum picks him to be on for a battle of high hairlined gas bags ??
Apparently he and his Inside Arkansas cronies have major beef with Chuck and Bo currently.
Did Chuckles label them terrorists?
We beat Texas and lost to bama by a few.
Frick LSU.
Now we're all caught up.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 10, 2025, 09:59 PMWe beat Texas and lost to bama by a few.
Frick LSU.
Now we're all caught up.
You can't get analysis like this just anywhere folks
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 10, 2025, 09:59 PMWe beat Texas and lost to bama by a few.
Frick LSU.
Dynamite drop-in, Monty! ;D
RIP Ueck.
OK Doc. You're up. While the board was down, we had no game thread and we lost. You were 2-0 before the breakdown. Start us up again.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Feb 12, 2025, 10:48 AMOK Doc. You're up. While the board was down, we had no game thread and we lost. You were 2-0 before the breakdown. Start us up again.
You never walk away from a heater.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 12, 2025, 03:35 PMYou never walk away from a heater.
You're up again. Early start tomorrow.
Thought I'd post this if any of you want to sit by HTL.
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Looks like we're getting 16.5 points tomorrow night.
Next to last team in this morning on Lunardi's deal.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 18, 2025, 04:42 PMLooks like we're getting 16.5 points tomorrow night.
Next to last team in this morning on Lunardi's deal.
I'd take the Hogs + points. I think we lose but not by that much.
This is the game where we get blown out by 30 and the fans are left wondering if the team has let go of the rope.
Exactly what I've been worrying about. The next 5 after are all winnable if we can avoid getting demoralized tomorrow night.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 18, 2025, 05:22 PMThis is the game where we get blown out by 30 and the fans are left wondering if the team has let go of the rope.
or we destroy them...
And then lose the rest of our games.
PSA: some Caliperi documentary on Vice TV.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 18, 2025, 06:03 PMor we destroy them...
And then lose the rest of our games.
this too.
Quote from: Spiderham on Feb 18, 2025, 12:00 PMThought I'd post this if any of you want to sit by HTL.
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More courtside seats? Where?
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 19, 2025, 08:20 PMMore courtside seats? Where?
Uhhhhhhhhh, courtside?
Quote from: BASS on Feb 19, 2025, 08:21 PMUhhhhhhhhh, courtside?
Ok smart ass you know what I mean. :this_is_woopig:
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 19, 2025, 08:23 PMOk smart ass you know what I mean. :this_is_woopig:
I was laughing while typing that
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 19, 2025, 08:20 PMMore courtside seats? Where?
Sounds like they are going to run them along the current side and perhaps both baselines. Given the required $50K Razorback Foundation "Diamond Hog" donation plus $12-15K per seat, you are talking about parting with $75k for a couple of Razorback BB seats. Hell, around $100K for 4 seats.
There aren't too many Mandy Hunts running around NWA to fill too many more of those seats.
I'll keep my seats about 13 rows above them for considerably less, Thanks!
Quote from: Spiderham on Feb 19, 2025, 10:57 PMSounds like they are going to run them along the current side and perhaps both baselines. Given the required $50K Razorback Foundation "Diamond Hog" donation plus $12-15K per seat, you are talking about parting with $75k for a couple of Razorback BB seats. Hell, around $100K for 4 seats.
There aren't too many Mandy Hunts running around NWA to fill too many more of those seats.
I'll keep my seats about 13 rows above them for considerably less, Thanks!
Scoober St3v3 haz a sad at this move.
Quote from: Spiderham on Feb 19, 2025, 10:57 PMSounds like they are going to run them along the current side and perhaps both baselines. Given the required $50K Razorback Foundation "Diamond Hog" donation plus $12-15K per seat, you are talking about parting with $75k for a couple of Razorback BB seats. Hell, around $100K for 4 seats.
There aren't too many Mandy Hunts running around NWA to fill too many more of those seats.
I'll keep my seats about 13 rows above them for considerably less, Thanks!
They act like they're the Lakers.
Quote from: Lurk on Feb 20, 2025, 08:28 PMThey act like they're the Lakers.
Now that you mention it Hunter and the Buss family have similar management styles and vision.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 20, 2025, 08:35 PMNow that you mention it Hunter and the Buss family have similar management styles and vision.
Spending lots of money and still sucking?
What kind of janky ass set up is this for opposing team post game press conferences. It looks like the AV Club set it up in the hallway outside the gym at Fayetteville High School.
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Probably revenge for them stuffing Bob Holt in a closet after the snow game.
Quote from: flash23 on Feb 24, 2025, 06:15 AMProbably revenge for them stuffing Bob Holt in a closet after the snow game.
Yes they did kill Bob. Well the twinkies probably killed Bob but the closet presser room didn't help.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 24, 2025, 02:11 AMWhat kind of janky ass set up is this for opposing team post game press conferences. It looks like the AV Club set it up in the hallway outside the gym at Fayetteville High School.
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It's Missouri. They probably considered that an upgrade.
watch some of the videos of cal's pressers at away games. a couple of them look like they were literally in a closet.
Andy Katz has us at #29 this morning.
Not posting a link, too lazy. Trust me bro.
Quote from: red death on Feb 24, 2025, 11:40 AMAndy Katz has us at #29 this morning.
Not posting a link, too lazy. Trust me bro.
So we've been lapped by other SEC programs? Great.
Vandy and OU both winning Saturday didn't do us any favors. Here are the last 4 SEC teams fighting for probably 3 spots and their remaining schedules:
Vanderbilt:
@A&M
Missouri
Arkansas
@Georgia
Oklahoma:
Kentucky
@Ole Miss
Missouri
@Texas
Texas:
@Arkansas
Georgia
@Mississippi St.
Oklahoma
Arkansas:
Texas
@USC-E
@Vandy
Mississippi St.
I guess technically Georgia could run the table and go 4-0 to end the season and get in, but that chance probably dies tomorrow night against Florida.
Sec should get 13 teams in. LSU. Cackalacky. And Blow U get left out.
Hogs running the table is a possibility, but I can see us losing at Vandy.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 24, 2025, 01:12 PMVandy and OU both winning Saturday didn't do us any favors. Here are the last 4 SEC teams fighting for probably 3 spots and their remaining schedules:
Vanderbilt:
@A&M. L
Missouri L
Arkansas W
@Georgia L
Oklahoma:
Kentucky L
@Ole Miss. L
Missouri. L
@Texas. L
Texas:
@Arkansas L
Georgia W
@Mississippi St. L
Oklahoma W
Arkansas:
Texas W
@USC-E W
@Vandy L
Mississippi St. W
I guess technically Georgia could run the table and go 4-0 to end the season and get in, but that chance probably dies tomorrow night against Florida.
Vandy 7-11
Oklahoma 4-14
Texass 7-11
Arkansas 8-10
All three except for OU get in. Porter Moser gets fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGQLuJqsL_c
This is a pretty good analysis of where we stand. We really need to beat UT on Wednesday because we'll be battling them for one of the last spots.
Win out. Five win revenge tour through the SEC tourney. Go to the big show as a 25 win 3 or 4 seed.
Problems solved.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 24, 2025, 03:45 PMWin out. Five win revenge tour through the SEC tourney. Go to the big show as a 25 win 3 or 4 seed.
Problems solved.
Good answer. I like the way you think.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 24, 2025, 03:45 PMWin out. Five win revenge tour through the SEC tourney. Go to the big show as a 25 win 3 or 4 seed.
Problems solved.
would still only get us a 6 seed.
Quote from: animal on Feb 24, 2025, 04:22 PMwould still only get us a 6 seed.
Man, you are doing the Lord's work. Keeping us all down to earth.
We beat Missouri and I'm thinking how we can get to the Final 4. I've quit on and rejoined the team 6 times this year.
I realize that is said tongue-in-cheek, but we don't have the depth to make a run in the SECT w/ multiple back-to-backs. I would give us as good of odds as making the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 as I would of making it to the 4th day or championship of the SECT.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 24, 2025, 05:33 PMI realize that is said tongue-in-cheek, but we don't have the depth to make a run in the SECT w/ multiple back-to-backs. I would give us as good of odds as making the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 as I would of making it to the 4th day or championship of the SECT.
Exhibit A haha. I'm right there with you champ.
I think we are a 1 and done if we go to the tournament. Might be put into the play-in game as a 11 vs 11 seed.
We don't have the depth, shooting, or defense. Maybe IF we get get Boogie back to play 10-15 min role off the bench but I highly doubt that's gonna happen.
The one thing we'll have going for us in the NCAAT is it's very likely we will be facing teams we'll match up better against that we've seen from much of the SEC where it's more physical. The tournament is great for a guy like #3 and that tall white guy...maybe even AIDOO wakes up long enough to do something. Then it comes down to guard play and we've got two pretty decent guards when they are on which is never. Get something out of Knox and Richmond and now we're talking.
$100 bet on Arkansas to win it all gets you $25,000 right now.
3-3 through the sec tourney should get us in.
Is Thiero projected to be a first rounder?
late 1st, early 2nd is where most have him going.
I've seen him everywhere from mid-20s to mid-40s over the last 6 weeks or so.
Thanks. I just assumed he was gone. Any chance he comes back?
No idea. He could probably make as much here next year as he would in the NBA, but that puts him a year behind into working his way into a potential 2nd contract in the league.
I'm more concerned w/ his current health. Has anyone heard anything since he went out against Mizzou? He good to go Wednesday night?
He was billed as a Draymond Green type and I guess he kinda is but he's gonna need a bit more meat on his bones and a perimeter game.
I think another year in college would be real good for him.
The dynamic of rushing to the NBA to start that clock isn't as much of a deal when you can get 1 mil plus to play college ball. Obviously if he's a 1st round lock then you gotta go. But he's not.
Speaking of getting a million to play college ball, I would say Thiero is closer to a Stacey Augmon comp than he is to Draymond.
Hogs favored by 4.5 tomorrow in early line.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 24, 2025, 01:12 PMVandy and OU both winning Saturday didn't do us any favors. Here are the last 4 SEC teams fighting for probably 3 spots and their remaining schedules:
Vanderbilt:
@A&M
Missouri
Arkansas
@Georgia
Oklahoma:
Kentucky
@Ole Miss
Missouri
@Texas
Texas:
@Arkansas
Georgia
@Mississippi St.
Oklahoma
Arkansas:
Texas
@USC-E
@Vandy
Mississippi St.
I guess technically Georgia could run the table and go 4-0 to end the season and get in, but that chance probably dies tomorrow night against Florida.
Boy, you love having a Vandy on your schedule, Chuck.
But seriously, that may essentially be a play-in game.
Tomorrow night is essentially a play-in to a play-in for us and Texas too.
If Thiero is out, Knox, Richmond, and Brazile are going to have to step tf up.
Should know more in about an hour when the official SEC availability report comes out.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 25, 2025, 02:02 PMSpeaking of getting a million to play college ball, I would say Thiero is closer to a Stacey Augmon comp than he is to Draymond.
Maybe a slightly slimmed down version of LaPhonso Ellis? In truth there are and were a lot of guys in that 6-8/210+ range that played in the NBA over the last 25 years so hard to really pin down a comparison without thinking of 30 guys.
Shit
https://x.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1894556796699734418?t=rF21p_Q1YL8Tf2oK9Qzxkw&s=19 (https://x.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1894556796699734418?t=rF21p_Q1YL8Tf2oK9Qzxkw&s=19)
If we can win enough to make the tournament and get the right draw this team can make it to the second weekend.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Feb 25, 2025, 08:18 PMIf we can win enough to make the tournament and get the right draw this team can make it to the second weekend.
I think so too. We're not a team you would want to draw.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Feb 25, 2025, 07:26 PMShit
https://x.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1894556796699734418?t=rF21p_Q1YL8Tf2oK9Qzxkw&s=19 (https://x.com/CurtWilkerson_/status/1894556796699734418?t=rF21p_Q1YL8Tf2oK9Qzxkw&s=19)
Somebody needs to light a fire under Brazile's ass.
I hate that Adou is out. We need him. He provides juice many times when we need it.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 25, 2025, 09:05 PMSomebody needs to light a fire under Brazile's ass.
Show-Me you are back up for the game thread.
Line down to 2.5 w/ Thiero out.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Feb 25, 2025, 08:18 PMIf we can win enough to make the tournament and get the right draw this team can make it to the second weekend.
Yall gone give htl a heart attack.
Quote from: TC on Feb 26, 2025, 03:02 PMYall gone give htl a heart attack.
He is for sure rooting for the Hogs to be excluded from the tournament so he can say "Told you so! Who knows more than you retards!"
We should set odds and take bets on him admitting he was wrong if the Hogs do make the tournament.
For the record and to be full of transparancy, I think it is a long shot for the Hogs to make the tournament. I simply don't see them being good enough to win enough games to get there.
lunardi has us last four in, texass last four bye. we win tonight and that probably gets flipped.
then a win against either a ranked a&m or miss st. and we're a lock. the sect won't mean a damn thing.
Quote from: vegashog on Feb 26, 2025, 04:53 PMlunardi has us last four in, texass last four bye. we win tonight and that probably gets flipped.
then a win against either a ranked a&m or miss st. and we're a lock. the sect won't mean a damn thing.
Thankfully we don't play A&M again. The Cocks are a lot more limp.
Texas
@ USC-E
@ Vandy
Miss St
well shit. vandy and miss st then.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 26, 2025, 04:29 PMHe is for sure rooting for the Hogs to be excluded from the tournament so he can say "Told you so! Who knows more than you retards!"
We should set odds and take bets on him admitting he was wrong if the Hogs do make the tournament.
For the record and to be full of transparancy, I think it is a long shot for the Hogs to make the tournament. I simply don't see them being good enough to win enough games to get there.
I offered to wager early on that we'd make it and he disappeared, only to come back in January gloating like a bitch that he was right, even quoting my month old post.
Then in Feb when we won a few he completely disappeared again.
I agree as well though, with Fland out and Theiro for who knows how long, I don't see us making it. But unlike our little troll friend I don't think it's the end of the world in Cals first year.
Like all things Razorback, I want us to win every game in everything, ever. The fact is, we're just not that good this year. And now our 2 best players are out. And the 2 guys that were supposed to be our 2 best players have sucked loose butthole all year. We can't shoot, we can't rebound, and we amplify the suck w/ the most boneheaded retard mistakes at the worst times. It's a miracle we've been so close in so many big games.
That said, I still want in that tournament thing they're having this year and let's roll, you guys.
The bubble watch thing they have on ESPN has already updated w/ OU dropping from 60% in down to 50% after their 1-point loss to UK. Our update should be coming up in minutes. Pregame, it was Texas 51% and us 43%. We should be at least 55%+ after tonight's events.
The difference b/t Lunardi's and this one is that Lunardi always does it as if the season ended that day, this one factors in who you have left to play and your probabilities of winning/losing.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 26, 2025, 11:05 PMThe bubble watch thing they have on ESPN has already updated w/ OU dropping from 60% in down to 50% after their 1-point loss to UK. Our update should be coming up in minutes. Pregame, it was Texas 51% and us 43%. We should be at least 55%+ after tonight's events.
The difference b/t Lunardi's and this one is that Lunardi always does it as if the season ended that day, this one factors in who you have left to play and your probabilities of winning/losing.
Thiero's injury and Z's worry me moving forward. We can't lose both.
Ok so only up to 52%.
Lunardi hasn't updated anything on the information superhighway yet, but SVP showed a graphic of his updated "last 4 byes, last 4 in..." etc. We weren't mentioned in those so I assume we're on the 10/11 line at this point. Ideally, we can land as 1 of the top 2 11-seeds of the 6 that are handed out. Meaning we get the bye and no play-in game. I realize "just get in" and all but playing our way into a 10, 9, or even 8 seed isn't going to do us any favors looking forward.
I hope we are a little deeper next year. I always liked it when Nolan would get pissed and pull all 5 starters and put in a fresh 5 that were capable.
Quote from: aaron on Feb 27, 2025, 08:25 AMI hope we are a little deeper next year. I always liked it when Nolan would get pissed and pull all 5 starters and put in a fresh 5 that were capable.
And we never lost a step.
Quote from: aaron on Feb 27, 2025, 08:25 AMI hope we are a little deeper next year. I always liked it when Nolan would get pissed and pull all 5 starters and put in a fresh 5 that were capable.
Cal has been quoted as saying he will not try to go with 8-9 players going forward. I think the injury situation this year broke him of that idea.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 27, 2025, 08:37 AMCal has been quoted as saying he will not try to go with 8-9 players going forward. I think the injury situation this year broke him of that idea.
I just don't understand why someone like Casmir Chavis doesn't get any run, especially now that we are down to 7, possibly 6 for the SC game. He was a 3 star recruit and on scholarship, so in the very least he could give some guys some breathers for a couple of minutes as long as he is serviceable.
Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Feb 27, 2025, 09:45 AMI just don't understand why someone like Casmir Chavis doesn't get any run, especially now that we are down to 7, possibly 6 for the SC game. He was a 3 star recruit and on scholarship, so in the very least he could give some guys some breathers for a couple of minutes as long as he is serviceable.
Agreed. Those guys must all be really bad.
https://www.on3.com/news/2025-ncaa-tournament-predictions-bracketology-projections-close-out-february-welcome-march/
Yes please.
I have read that Thiero is in LA (not Lower Arkansas) for knee evaluation. Cal said last game it was his back.
Sigh.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 27, 2025, 02:08 PMI have read that Thiero is in LA (not Lower Arkansas) for knee evaluation. Cal said last game it was his back.
Sigh.
the reports said hyper extension so if that's the case just rub some tussin on it and give it a day or so.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 27, 2025, 02:08 PMI have read that Thiero is in LA (not Lower Arkansas) for knee evaluation. Cal said last game it was his back.
Sigh.
They announced late yesterday that he was out due to a hyperextended knee. Thiero flew to LA for a second opinion.
They said during the game he was in LA for the knee, but he was also favoring his back Saturday against Mizzou. That may have been an ongoing thing.
Time to bring in Bud Kilmer to give several of them the shot.
Z's back was going out during the game. I have to assume that's why some shots are bottom of the net, and some shots (back twinge) are 5 feet off.
If no one is going to be left to play, it doesn't really matter if we make the NCAA. I assume we would turn down any NIT bid.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 27, 2025, 02:23 PMZ's back was going out during the game. I have to assume that's why some shots are bottom of the net, and some shots (back twinge) are 5 feet off.
If no one is going to be left to play, it doesn't really matter if we make the NCAA. I assume we would turn down any NIT bid.
Z was wearing a back support belt nearly every time he was pulled. It was definitely bothering him.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 27, 2025, 02:23 PMZ's back was going out during the game. I have to assume that's why some shots are bottom of the net, and some shots (back twinge) are 5 feet off.
If no one is going to be left to play, it doesn't really matter if we make the NCAA. I assume we would turn down any NIT bid.
I think most all of us on here still have some eligibility.
We may all be in the 40-70 age range, but we could raise the quality of shit talking from the bench and provide extra fouls to give.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 27, 2025, 02:56 PMWe may all be in the 40-70 age range, but we could raise the quality of shit talking from the bench and provide extra fouls to give.
I doubt I could get close enough to any of these college guys to foul them. I am about at statue level.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 27, 2025, 03:02 PMI doubt I could get close enough to any of these college guys to foul them. I am about at statue level.
I can hang in there long enough to stroke out which would be about half up the court on the first run from tip off.
I'd get my money's worth on fouls. Especially against Texas.
Flagrant fouls aren't going to be close calls
I will duck for cover after posting this, but I did wonder w/ the lack of depth around December/Januaryish if they would consider letting Taylen Green come over to basketball. Supposedly he is pretty good. I realize it's too late but a 6'6", 230 warm athletic body wouldn't hurt right about now. It worked out ok w/ MJ9 and Marcus Monk.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 27, 2025, 03:35 PMFlagrant fouls aren't going to be close calls
No shit. The ref would be like "No, dog. We don't have to even review that".
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Feb 27, 2025, 03:37 PMI will duck for cover after posting this, but I did wonder w/ the lack of depth around December/Januaryish if they would consider letting Taylen Green come over to basketball. Supposedly he is pretty good. I realize it's too late but a 6'6", 230 warm athletic body wouldn't hurt right about now. It worked out ok w/ MJ9 and Marcus Monk.
I know MJ9 got away with it, I remember his full court pass from the baseline, but didn't we get called out on it for Monk on an eligibility issue?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 27, 2025, 03:42 PMI know MJ9 got away with it, I remember his full court pass from the baseline, but didn't we get called out on it for Monk on an eligibility issue?
I can't remember exactly how it all went down, but I remember he had a good game when we upset a highly-ranked OU team w/ Blake Griffin.
Brandon Mitchell played some too in his time here but I don't remember him doing anything notable.
https://www.hogstats.com/log_ua.php?name=Marcus%20Monk
Looks like he played in 17 games total. Some freshman year, the rest a year after his senior year of football.
Matt: https://www.hogstats.com/players/player.php?id=27
Brandon: https://www.hogstats.com/players/player.php?id=284
Joe Dean Davenport may have been the best of the football players turned hoopsters.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 27, 2025, 04:14 PMJoe Dean Davenport may have been the best of the football players turned hoopsters.
He facilitated a blackout drunk night and boat ride towards Atlanta with his perfomance against Auburn when they were highly ranked.
I think I posted that on the old board.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Feb 27, 2025, 12:30 PMhttps://www.on3.com/news/2025-ncaa-tournament-predictions-bracketology-projections-close-out-february-welcome-march/
Yes please.
It would be an interesting game for sure but I want no part of Memphis. They shoot the 3 well, have some decent bigs and if they get hot could make a nice run. I'd prefer the 11 seed over the 10 seed if given a choice for the potential of a deeper run.
Didn't Jason Peters play some too?
Quote from: CardHog on Feb 27, 2025, 05:20 PMDidn't Jason Peters play some too?
not sure who all played on the real team, but the football team's intramural squad during some of the Nutt years beat the shit out of our pomfret honors dorm team.
They brought fans too, which made it even more hilarious.
Quote from: CardHog on Feb 27, 2025, 05:20 PMDidn't Jason Peters play some too?
I think maybe so but more so as a body in practice.
Hyperextended knee, back "tightness," meh. In football parlance we're a little banged up. Rest 'em where you can, squeak into the dance. They should be ready to roll come tourney time. Let's go.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 27, 2025, 03:42 PMI know MJ9 got away with it, I remember his full court pass from the baseline, but didn't we get called out on it for Monk on an eligibility issue?
Matt Jones was pretty damn good at basketball. I was at a game up there once when he got an awesome slam dunk
Quote from: Corn Pop on Feb 27, 2025, 07:07 PMHyperextended knee, back "tightness," meh. In football parlance we're a little banged up. Rest 'em where you can, squeak into the dance. They should be ready to roll come tourney time. Let's go.
I'm hoping to not shit the bed and actually back into an #11 seed.
Quote from: Hognrock on Feb 27, 2025, 04:54 PMIt would be an interesting game for sure but I want no part of Memphis. They shoot the 3 well, have some decent bigs and if they get hot could make a nice run. I'd prefer the 11 seed over the 10 seed if given a choice for the potential of a deeper run.
I meant getting them as a 7 and potentially Wisconsin as the 2. Can't do much better than that.
The Horns and Land Thieves having to play each other in Dayton makes it even better.
Quote from: CardHog on Feb 27, 2025, 05:20 PMDidn't Jason Peters play some too?
QB Robert Reed played some as well.
https://hogstats.com/log_ua.php?name=Robert%20Reed
I know he's got a draft to worry about but I bet Landon Jackson could offer a few fouls.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Feb 28, 2025, 08:50 AMQB Robert Reed played some as well.
I don't remember that. Although, he would have fit in on last year's team.
robert-reed-portrait1.jpg
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 28, 2025, 09:02 AMI don't remember that. Although, he would have fit in on last year's team.
robert-reed-portrait1.jpg
I didn't know a JPG could smell like Aqua Velva.
Quote from: Zoso on Feb 28, 2025, 11:17 AMI didn't know a JPG could smell like Aqua Velva.
That or Old Spice.
Torvik had us at an 11 seed. Yesterday, he moved us up to a 10 seed. Today, we are listed as a 9 seed.
Quote from: RPL on Feb 28, 2025, 08:54 PMTorvik had us at an 11 seed. Yesterday, he moved us up to a 10 seed. Today, we are listed as a 9 seed.
Fingers crossed he heard something good about Thiero.
We're a pick'em at S Carolina today. I think if we win this one we're in the tournament regardless of what happens next week.
Where's the thread?
Doesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 01, 2025, 11:17 AMDoesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
What did you just do?!
I made the last two games of the season more exciting. You're welcome.
Shit
https://x.com/ARHoopScoop/status/1895893774469066829?t=I79GsuHVyH4k8DPKgE5pUA&s=19 (https://x.com/ARHoopScoop/status/1895893774469066829?t=I79GsuHVyH4k8DPKgE5pUA&s=19)
Fanfuckingtastic start.
Must win game. Lose this and kiss the Tourney goodbye.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 01, 2025, 11:17 AMDoesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
Why?
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 01, 2025, 11:17 AMDoesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
I hope you're happy.
Quote from: Carpe DeHam on Mar 01, 2025, 12:18 PMI hope you're happy.
In general, or specifically about this game so far?
Your choice. :D
Quote from: Carpe DeHam on Mar 01, 2025, 12:21 PMYour choice. :D
(https://media.tenor.com/I2LTUyUOfh0AAAP1/no-no-im-no.mp4)
Don't worry there's still a 2nd half?
Quote from: Gambler on Mar 01, 2025, 12:17 PMWhy?
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We actually might not win another game.
32-14 at half. Girls high school games are better than this.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 01, 2025, 11:17 AMDoesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
Hogs say "What?"
Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 01, 2025, 11:17 AMDoesn't matter who makes the thread today. No chance we lose this one.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 01, 2025, 11:31 AMWhat did you just do?!
This is why you can't laugh in the face of made up sports message board superstition.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 01, 2025, 03:35 PMThis is why you can't laugh in the face of made up sports message board superstition.
Maybe it's actually that Woopig is too powerful at making up new superstitions.
Or maybe we need to build Nolan a statue.
Any grapevine news on Thiero?
My brother said he "saw on Twitter," and also some podcast post-game yesterday, both said MCL and done for the year. But I want better info.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 02, 2025, 10:47 AMAny grapevine news on Thiero?
My brother said he "saw on Twitter," and also some podcast post-game yesterday, both said MCL and done for the year. But I want better info.
Last semi official news was that he's out until at least the SECT which is to say he's out for the season.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 02, 2025, 10:47 AMAny grapevine news on Thiero?
My brother said he "saw on Twitter," and also some podcast post-game yesterday, both said MCL and done for the year. But I want better info.
One of the pay boards is saying torn meniscus, which would probably mean done for the year. Not as bad as a ligament tear but enough to keep him out more than 2-3 weeks.
Hogs move up from 47 to 39 in NET.
Now 5 spots above the bubble cut off per Curtis Wilkerson.
Winning at home Saturday would remove all doubt. Lose 2 in a row and it would be 50/50.
Quote from: red death on Mar 05, 2025, 10:26 AMHogs move up from 47 to 39 in NET.
Now 5 spots above the bubble cut off per Curtis Wilkerson.
Winning at home Saturday would remove all doubt. Lose 2 in a row and it would be 50/50.
Jerry Palm has us as an 11-seed, and not one of the play-in games. I would take an 11 seed over a 10.
I hate that Saturday is an 11:00 a.m. tip. We need to be loud and we need to win. Multiple reasons. Ament will be on campus.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 05, 2025, 01:29 PMI hate that Saturday is an 11:00 a.m. tip. We need to be loud and we need to win. Multiple reasons. Ament will be on campus.
Yep. I'll definitely be there. We looked lethargic last Saturday. Hopefully that's a one time deal. Fans will be ready.
All of our 11 a.m. games this year in conference were on road (Tenner, A&M, S. Carolina) and we basically looked bad in all of them, we at least competed in the Ags game.
The Saturday games at home were at 3 PM (Florida) or at night (Oklahoma, Alabama, Mizzou).
We should be ready for this one.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 05, 2025, 01:29 PMI hate that Saturday is an 11:00 a.m. tip. We need to be loud and we need to win. Multiple reasons. Ament will be on campus.
Cal hates it too. Said we're getting home at 3 am (maybe) and turning around and doing a 11 AM game a couple days later. Makes no sense. Says he thinks we're the only team in the SEC that's been fucked like this on the schedule (probably true we are Arkansas afterall)
Quote from: animal on Mar 05, 2025, 03:10 PMCal hates it too. Said we're getting home at 3 am (maybe) and turning around and doing a 11 AM game a couple days later. Makes no sense. Says he thinks we're the only team in the SEC that's been fucked like this on the schedule (probably true we are Arkansas afterall)
Well we're still getting home about 21 hours before a Wednesday game. So I thought his comment was a stretch.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 05, 2025, 03:34 PMWell we're still getting home about 21 hours before a Wednesday game. So I thought his comment was a stretch.
Sure. I did a bit too but I think you have to put yourself in their shoes. Late in the season, things haven't gone very smoothly. Been fighting battles all season and you've been put into loser bracket on scheduling. I'm not sure how much of the schedule is predetermined or what but I just can't imagine Kentucky under Cal had to play very many 11 am games. I can't recall that happening to Arkansas all that much either. At least these early starts will get us ready in case we have to play early game in the tournament.
In the long run whining about an early start and getting your butt pumped by the worst team in the league just screams that he didn't have his team ready to play. He did last night. Overall what we're seeing with Cal teams of the last several years is they can get really turded up at the worst possible times. We mostly beat Vandy I'm guessing because we were "ON"...they weren't and we just matched up really well against them. As he said we were able to go smaller against them than we've been able to do against other SEC teams. Also a weird comment when you only have 7 guys.
Yeah that don't make no sense, neither. We aren't "going small" or "going big" against anybody. We're just rotating the 7 guys we have, regardless.
Quote from: animal on Mar 05, 2025, 03:41 PMAs he said we were able to go smaller against them successfully than we've been able to do against other SEC teams. Also a weird comment when you only have 7 guys.
Not so weird with the insertion of one key word, that I think is what he meant.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 05, 2025, 01:29 PMI hate that Saturday is an 11:00 a.m. tip. We need to be loud and we need to win. Multiple reasons. Ament will be on campus.
Hate the start time. We don't have time to get primed or whatever it is we do.
Quote from: PorkyPig on Mar 05, 2025, 06:25 PMHate the start time. We don't have time to get primed or whatever it is we do.
We get all crunked up.
Easy. Take them to a hotel at 5:00 p.m. on Friday. Feed them a solid meal. Ambien at 6:30 p.m. Wake them up at 3:00 a.m. w/ The Purge Siren alarms. Adderall XR 30s and 200 mg caffeine for everyone. Throw in some cimetidine for CYP2D6 and 1A2 inhibition. Wait an hour. Breakfast. Wait 2-3 more hours. Hit them w/ another trifecta of the cocktail. Nutrition prn til tip.
Not only will they be primed for an 11:00 a.m. tip, they may want to Ernie Banks it.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 05, 2025, 07:50 PMEasy. Take them to a hotel at 5:00 p.m. on Friday. Feed them a solid meal. Ambien at 6:30 p.m. Wake them up at 3:00 a.m. w/ The Purge Siren alarms. Adderall XR 30s and 200 mg caffeine for everyone. Throw in some cimetidine for CYP2D6 and 1A2 inhibition. Wait an hour. Breakfast. Wait 2-3 more hours. Hit them w/ another trifecta of the cocktail. Nutrition prn til tip.
Not only will they be primed for an 11:00 a.m. tip, they may want to Ernie Banks it.
Damn I wanna party with you!
Someone please remember to start the game thread. These things matter.
Quote from: TC on Mar 05, 2025, 08:20 PMDamn I wanna party with you!
I hope you have a will.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 05, 2025, 07:50 PMEasy. Take them to a hotel at 5:00 p.m. on Friday. Feed them a solid meal. Ambien at 6:30 p.m. Wake them up at 3:00 a.m. w/ The Purge Siren alarms. Adderall XR 30s and 200 mg caffeine for everyone. Throw in some cimetidine for CYP2D6 and 1A2 inhibition. Wait an hour. Breakfast. Wait 2-3 more hours. Hit them w/ another trifecta of the cocktail. Nutrition prn til tip.
Not only will they be primed for an 11:00 a.m. tip, they may want to Ernie Banks it.
My heart wanted to explode just reading that.
https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1897731631575933368?t=wrUHCrijBUxMLk2jq3KxSg&s=19 (https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/1897731631575933368?t=wrUHCrijBUxMLk2jq3KxSg&s=19)
cal can still draw the big games.
Man I hope we're good next year
more proof that Tyson's $1.7 million a year pool boy is out of touch with the fan base and needs to go.
Because he can't raise money for NIL from sponsors or boosters he is just going to have the season ticket holders pay the freight.
https://www.bestofarkansassports.com/arkansas-basketball-absolutely-crushes-rest-of-sec-ticket-price/
For a family of four to purchase season tickets in 2025-26, it would require a minimum $3,000 donation, plus the cost of the tickets themselves. At $365 per seat in the upper deck, that's at least an additional $1,260 — bringing the total to a whopping $4,460.
That is believed to be the largest price tag for four season tickets in the conference, according to research by Best of Arkansas Sports.
Using information both posted publicly online and received by reaching out directly to the other 15 SEC programs, we found that the next-most expensive set of four men's basketball season tickets belongs to Kentucky. The Wildcats' cheapest tickets are $850/seat and don't require a donation, meaning four would cost $3,400 — more than $1,000 cheaper than at Arkansas.
Auburn is the third-most expensive. The Tigers actually combine the cost of the ticket and required donation, marketing it as $550 per seat price. That brings the Tigers' total to $2,200 — less than half of the price at Bud Walton Arena.
"Because he can't raise money for NIL from sponsors or boosters"
I've asked before, but what if there are no sponsors or boosters lining up to give money?
As for the ticket holder angle, I bet those season tickets still get bought. If that happens, is HY wrong?
nil isn't a part of the revenue sharing, that's being paid out by the university regardless of what the collectives raise.
the people that have been grandfathered in for decades? oh well. and it wasn't yurachek that set the market or the price all by himself, but i guess some fans need to blame someone. and i agree those seats will get sold.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 07, 2025, 06:49 AM"Because he can't raise money for NIL from sponsors or boosters"
I've asked before, but what if there are no sponsors or boosters lining up to give money?
As for the ticket holder angle, I bet those season tickets still get bought. If that happens, is HY wrong?
I think there will be a lot that are not sold as season books. They'll get some of the revenue from the tickets, but not the RF contributions. They also won't have the revenue from seats sold but that remain empty for our early season cream puff games.
I think taking tickets from long time ticket holders who can't swing 5K per year to keep them is the wrong way to go, but I guess I'm just being naive.
There is no justifiable reason for Arkansas to be the most expensive ticket in the conference.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2025, 08:19 AMI think taking tickets from long time ticket holders who can't swing 5K per year to keep them is the wrong way to go, but I guess I'm just being naive.
There is no justifiable reason for Arkansas to be the most expensive ticket in the conference.
100% agree. I don't like the pricing model at all and fucking over your long time supporters is a dick move.
Fun fact: when BWA arena opened in '93-94, ticket face value was $13. I think they went to $14 in '96 or '97. A student ticket book was half face value. My student ticket book was like $125.
Another fun fact. We've only gone undefeated in BWA twice. '93-94 and '97-98. Bring back $13 tickets and we will pack every game and win them all.
auburn is going to raise their ticket prices, some substantially for premium seats, in the coming days. others will follow suit because they will have to. who knows where arkansas will end up as far as the most expensive.
and as for the long time ticket holders, isn't it a dick move that they get grandfathered prices while others that can and will pay the premium get left out? those new ticket holders will be just as good a fan as the ones currently in those seats.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 07, 2025, 08:42 AMauburn is going to raise their ticket prices, some substantially for premium seats, in the coming days. others will follow suit because they will have to. who knows where arkansas will end up as far as the most expensive.
and as for the long time ticket holders, isn't it a dick move that they get grandfathered prices while others that can and will pay the premium get left out? those new ticket holders will be just as good a fan as the ones currently in those seats.
I agree with this in principle.
On the other hand, it seems like most of the really good seats at Baum are now in the hands of corporate donors and often go unfilled. It seems to have had at least some effect on the atmosphere. So I don't know that you can assume one ass in the seat is as good as any other.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2025, 08:19 AMI think taking tickets from long time ticket holders who can't swing 5K per year to keep them is the wrong way to go, but I guess I'm just being naive.
There is no justifiable reason for Arkansas to be the most expensive ticket in the conference.
What if you're paying $5k and having to sit several sections outside your donation level while someone is paying 1/5 to sit in your donation level. Is that fair?
when we host ky, bama, texass, the vols, or auburn, how is the atmosphere different because someone is in a corporate seat? the place is rocking at those games.
with weak non-con games we have people here and on other boards that can't give their tickets away. didn't the school set up a clearing house for resell because the crowds were so bad despite having all these 'great' fans? that's the reality of scheduling.
i get the other side of the argument but the school is not wrong in trying to make up the costs.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 07, 2025, 10:59 AMWhat if you're paying $5k and having to sit several sections outside your donation level while someone is paying 1/5 to sit in your donation level. Is that fair?
Are they in those seats because they've been longstanding ticket holders?
If so, I'd say it probably is fair. A 5K donation shouldn't be all it takes to kick those fans out of their seats.
Fandom in college sports shouldn't just be about what you can donate. Granted, that hill has been knocked down as one to stand on for a long time.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 07, 2025, 11:10 AMwhen we host ky, bama, texass, the vols, or auburn, how is the atmosphere different because someone is in a corporate seat? the place is rocking at those games.
with weak non-con games we have people here and on other boards that can't give their tickets away. didn't the school set up a clearing house for resell because the crowds were so bad despite having all these 'great' fans? that's the reality of scheduling.
i get the other side of the argument but the school is not wrong in trying to make up the costs.
With corporate held tickets, it could be the difference between a longtime fan with a vested interest in the Hogs winning, versus a transplant who is just there for the event or to entertain a client. That's the only real risk to it, and I don't see a way to objectively measure the effect.
Anyone who ate tickets through the Heath, Pelphrey, and Anderson eras and is still sitting in their seats deserves to keep them.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2025, 11:17 AMAre they in those seats because they've been longstanding ticket holders?
If so, I'd say it probably is fair. A 5K donation shouldn't be all it takes to kick those fans out of their seats.
Fandom in college sports shouldn't just be about what you can donate. Granted, that hill has been knocked down as one to stand on for a long time.
I've been a donor 30 years but didn't purchase basketball till around 2019.
A seat has a price. Ticket prices universally increase. It shouldn't matter how long you've had the seat, you should pay the value for what the seat is worth.
Everything in life increases in price. This is no different.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 07, 2025, 11:56 AMI've been a donor 30 years but didn't purchase basketball till around 2019.
A seat has a price. Ticket prices universally increase. It shouldn't matter how long you've had the seat, you should pay the value for what the seat is worth.
Everything in life increases in price. This is no different.
I hear ya, but this isn't just about ticket price, it's the donation issue. Everyone has to pay the increased ticket price.
Access to tickets has always been a factor of donations and time, not just one or the other. Telling long time ticket holders they're no longer getting credit for the time they've been buying that sport's tickets will rub fans the wrong way.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2025, 12:09 PMI hear ya, but this isn't just about ticket price, it's the donation issue. Everyone has to pay the increased ticket price.
Access to tickets has always been a factor of donations and time, not just one or the other. Telling long time ticket holders they're no longer getting credit for the time they've been buying that sport's tickets will rub fans the wrong way.
Got an example of anything else in a capitalist country works this way?
The donation is part of the cost to sit in the seat. Otherwise why do we have sections specific to donation levels?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 07, 2025, 12:46 PMGot an example of anything else in a capitalist country works this way?
The donation is part of the cost to sit in the seat. Otherwise why do we have sections specific to donation levels?
No I don't, but normal capitalism has never had anything to do with the Razorback Foundation!
Hell, it probably more or less says that in their formation documents.
Touche
2 games this weekend (MSU at Ark, Vandy at UGA) determine our match-up in the SEC conference tournament opener on Wednesday:
If Arkansas and UGa win: Ark (9) plays USCe (16) at noon
If Arkansas and Vandy win: Ark (10) plays LSU (15) at 6:00pm
If Arkansas loses, UGa wins: Ark (12) plays Tx (13) at 2:30pm
If Arkansas loses, Vandy wins: Ark (11) plays OU (14) at 8:30pm
I'm rooting for Vandy because I don't want to see Collin Murray-Boyles or Tre Johnson ever again!
You can play with all conference tournament possibilities here:
https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=mbb
I'll take LSU, please.
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Mar 07, 2025, 12:09 PMAccess to tickets has always been a factor of donations and time, not just one or the other. Telling long time ticket holders they're no longer getting credit for the time they've been buying that sport's tickets will rub fans the wrong way.
But you do get credit for your time. We've been in row 4 of section 101 since 1993, amazing seats. We're gold level Broyles/Matthews donors. I know of several platinum donors 10-15 rows behind us. Is that fair? Of couse not. I'm going to miss my seats and totally understand the logic but I am optimistic about my spot in the pecking order of gold members due to our priority points.
Sucks seeing my x feed full of people who are losing their season tickets after so many years. A lot say they've been in their seats for since BWA was built.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 07, 2025, 10:46 AMOn the other hand, it seems like most of the really good seats at Baum are now in the hands of corporate donors and often go unfilled. It seems to have had at least some effect on the atmosphere. So I don't know that you can assume one ass in the seat is as good as any other.
This Baum has not been the same since the seat shuffle there.
Back to hoops:
If someone wants to pony up to sit in cramped seats and the only time there isn't someone talking over canned music is when the ball is actually in play then have at it - that's the market at work I guess. Still, the in-game host is stupid, annoying, and the mics are so over modulated you can understand what they are saying it's like Charlie Brown's teacher.
How long before they tell the band to hit the bricks so they sell seats in their corner spot since the DJ plays 90.7% of the music?
They also need to adopt the ball in play policy at BWA that was finally put in at Baum-Walker. especially for the assholes who refuse to go down to the floor and up the middle aisle to their seat instead of cutting through the whole aisle to get to their seat that is next to the middle aisle.
Finally, driving to a campus event from anywhere north of Fayetteville (Benton County) has become a nightmare as 49 @ MLK is a total shit show.
When will the new interchange on 49 south of MLK and between Razorback Road be ready? Razorback Road is an option for those to avoid MLK but then getting a clear RR to turn left is no picnic. Huge advantage to come in south from Greenland.
also - Cal bitched and Muss confirmed - but non-conference attendance is not good anymore and it likely won't be better anytime soon as Cal like to play attractive non-cons at neutral sites which also take $$$ to attend. jacking up the price isn't going to help that either.
I guess my biggest beef with Tyson's pool boy is that while knowing all this additional money was needing to be accounted for and raised they have done little to nothing to cut expenses or DOGE it to trim the fat/excess and instead of have just passed the bill onto the fan.
It is past time for the athletic department to operate like a business instead of a ole miss coed living on their step dad's american express card.
isn't trying to get the most money they can for each seat running it like a business? do that and then counter is you're fucking over long time fans. money or feels, with revenue sharing everyone is having to find the answer.
Ball in Play policy is needed at Razorback Stadium as well.
Anyone going to the game Wednesday? We are thinking about driving over.
We cancelled our trip. Definitely worth going if you've never been. It's a great experience.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 09, 2025, 11:23 AMWe cancelled our trip. Definitely worth going if you've never been. It's a great experience.
My wife is a UGA graduate so we could do the Bulldog game later that night as well. Can you buy tickets at the venue or are you forced to buy them through Ticketmaster on-line?
Not sure about the venue but people outside had them for sale. I'd check online first.
Quote from: Zoso on Mar 09, 2025, 11:06 AMAnyone going to the game Wednesday? We are thinking about driving over.
the SEC Tournament is always a lot of fun if you like basketball and given the state of the league this year, the tournament should be out of this world.
beware of the arrogant KY Jellycat fans who will likely have post Cal derangement syndrome
as for money: 2023-24
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/pdf/athletics/ncaa-membership/2023-24.pdf
an interesting read on what they have to report to the NCAA.
$21 mill in non-sports assigned Admin and Admin support seems for a department with just 19 sports.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 09, 2025, 12:37 PMthe SEC Tournament is always a lot of fun if you like basketball and given the state of the league this year, the tournament should be out of this world.
beware of the arrogant KY Jellycat fans who will likely have post Cal derangement syndrome
as for money: 2023-24
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/pdf/athletics/ncaa-membership/2023-24.pdf
an interesting read on what they have to report to the NCAA.
$21 mill in non-sports assigned Admin and Admin support seems for a department with just 19 sports.
Thanks y'all.
Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 09, 2025, 12:37 PMthe SEC Tournament is always a lot of fun if you like basketball and given the state of the league this year, the tournament should be out of this world.
beware of the arrogant KY Jellycat fans who will likely have post Cal derangement syndrome
as for money: 2023-24
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/pdf/athletics/ncaa-membership/2023-24.pdf
an interesting read on what they have to report to the NCAA.
$21 mill in non-sports assigned Admin and Admin support seems for a department with just 19 sports.
We went to the SECT at the Pyramid in Memphis in '94. It was a really good time. This year's tourney will have some really good basketball. I think it was semifinals when we played KY and it was about 1/2 and 1/2 KY/Hog fans. KY typically travels pretty well.
Looks like Boogie is gearing up to play in the NCAA.
Not a fan unless he can provide depth off the bench. Wagner at the 1 and Davis at the 2 is the formula that got us here.
Quote from: red death on Mar 10, 2025, 11:42 AMLooks like Boogie is gearing up to play in the NCAA.
Not a fan unless he can provide depth off the bench. Wagner at the 1 and Davis at the 2 is the formula that got us here.
100%
Remember trying to integrate Nick Smith back into the mix? Didn't work worth a flip.
Boogie wasn't the reason we weren't winning. He had one of best in the country in assistd and assists to TO ratio. He also shot the ball better than any guard we had at the time. Several other guys played poorly orcwere battling injuries.
If he can play, you absolutely welcome him back but with a role of coming off the bench. His minutes alone would be a plus.
Playing 7 guys in the SECT will be taxing.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 10, 2025, 01:09 PMBoogie wasn't the reason we weren't winning. He had one of best in the country in assistd and assists to TO ratio. He also shot the ball better than any guard we had at the time. Several other guys played poorly orcwere battling injuries.
If he can play, you absolutely welcome him back but with a role of coming off the bench. His minutes alone would be a plus.
Playing 7 guys in the SECT will be taxing.
CFN has us winning 2 games in the SECT. I'll take that.
despite the time off, fland is 2nd in points and steals, leads the team in assists and ft %.
if there is any truth to this, it means he's been practicing and cal's comfortable with the chemistry. again, if there's any truth to it.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Mar 10, 2025, 01:19 PMCFN has us winning 2 games in the SECT. I'll take that.
Same. Playing 7 guys 3 days straight, that's a daunting task when facing Auburn. Beat SCE and OM and I'm happy.
Would rather have Thiero back. We need muscle.
Fland does seem like the Nick Smith situation. But if worked in gently, maybe he'll fit.
When Fland went down, and Wagner went to his natural position, he flourished. I like his size and physicality at point better than Fland.
Davis also flourished at the 2 and he's big and physical too. I don't like featherweights in the Tourney.
When Thiero went down, Brazile and Aidoo had the best games of their season by miles.
Fland and Thiero, by the numbers, look good. But there's something about their presence on the court that made the other guys disappear.
It's weird, chemistry that is.
Now if Fland comes back and Davis and Wagner don't have any fall off, and we go on a run, that would be great. But if he comes back and we struggle again and lose?
I want Fland only as bench relief. Give me 15 minutes to rest my guys. But I don't want him pushing DJ back to the 2. Not ever.
I don't think you mess with the starting lineup but if Fland can get you 15 minutes it's going to be gravy for us
Quote from: animal on Mar 10, 2025, 02:49 PMI don't think you mess with the starting lineup but if Fland can get you 15 minutes it's going to be gravy for us
This is where I'm at. He can spell DJ.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 10, 2025, 01:01 PM100%
Remember trying to integrate Nick Smith back into the mix? Didn't work worth a flip.
Didn't we make it to the Sweet 16 and beat a #1 seed after Smith came back?
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 10, 2025, 05:01 PMDidn't we make it to the Sweet 16 and beat a #1 seed after Smith came back?
I believe so. How soon we forget. I think that team was a bit of a disappointment considering we had 3 legit NBA guys maybe another couple "pros". But you're gonna have that when you are good every year. There's bound to be those disappointing Sweet 16 runs.
I think after our awful start we would take a dub in the tournament and gracefully bow out but it sure is nice getting to the 2nd weekend.
Quote from: animal on Mar 10, 2025, 05:07 PMI believe so. How soon we forget. I think that team was a bit of a disappointment considering we had 3 legit NBA guys maybe another couple "pros". But you're gonna have that when you are good every year. There's bound to be those disappointing Sweet 16 runs.
I think after our awful start we would take a dub in the tournament and gracefully bow out but it sure is nice getting to the 2nd weekend.
I'd take a first round win and call it good given the roller coaster this season has been and the depleted roster. If we could somehow get Thiero and Fland back, even as depth pieces playing under ten minutes a game, we could be a highly undervalued 10-11 seed with potential to make some noise.
Aidoo had surgery in the summer no one knew about. Davis suffered a wrist injury to his shooting hand. We brought in a completely new roster that didn't have an off season to gel. We had 3 freshmen playing a lot of mins from the jump. I think those things factored in to the slow start.
Even in the losses, we were in moat of those games till late. Cal saw this early on. He repeatedly said this team would take their lumps early but would be much better by March.
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Boogie is good to go if he wants to.
Thiero wants to but is done.
Cal isn't saying anything because he wants them both in his back pocket for Selection Sunday gamesmanship if something goes horrifically wrong on Wednesday.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 10, 2025, 05:01 PMDidn't we make it to the Sweet 16 and beat a #1 seed after Smith came back?
He had 17 points and 1 assist in three NCAA tournament games. Played 68 minutes. Not Wooden watch list numbers.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 10, 2025, 06:25 PMHe had 17 points and 1 assist in three NCAA tournament games. Played 68 minutes. Not Wooden watch list numbers.
Smith didn't play well, but given the results I don't think he tanked the chemistry either.
I'd hope Cal would know to ease those guys back in as role players at first.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 10, 2025, 06:01 PMCal saw this early on. He repeatedly said this team would take their lumps early but would be much better by March.
It doesn't exactly take Nostradamus when that has been the Kentucky M.O. for the past several years. But often those teams went out early in the tournament despite the "gelling."
He knew the extent of the injuries as well. No one knew Aidoo had surgery. Davis also missed a couple weeks in late December.
In post-game Cal said Boogie would be available if we reach the 2nd weekend of the NCAA. I think he included Thiero in that statement but not sure (maybe he said Thiero was done).
In other words,
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As of this morning Lunardi had us as a 9 seed opening with Marquette and then getting Auburn 👎🏻
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 13, 2025, 12:18 PMAs of this morning Lunardi had us as a 9 seed opening with Marquette and then getting Auburn 👎🏻
Frick it, let's beat them and be the story going into the second weekend.
If for some crazy reason all the wrong teams win conference tournaments and we are left out of the dance, do we turn down the NIT?
I think we do. The two main rationales for playing in it don't apply.
(1) Extend the season for a good team or a feel good team that didn't quite measure up to the NCAA. Yeah fuck that we're out of players.
(2) Get a young team experience for next year. Haha.
I don't see how the NIT lasts much longer, there's little incentive for teams not in the NCAA.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 14, 2025, 07:48 AMIf for some crazy reason all the wrong teams win conference tournaments and we are left out of the dance, do we turn down the NIT?
I think we do. The two main rationales for playing in it don't apply.
(1) Extend the season for a good team or a feel good team that didn't quite measure up to the NCAA. Yeah fuck that we're out of players.
(2) Get a young team experience for next year. Haha.
I don't see how the NIT lasts much longer, there's little incentive for teams not in the NCAA.
I think the majority of the conference tournaments are already over?
i read there's maybe two chances for bracket busters. bracketmatrix has us in on every bracket. 92 brackets with an average 10th seed.
listening to cal's presser, while he couldn't say we are in, he kept talking about the next game.
CBS has us a 10 seed opening against BYU in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
ESPN has us a 10 seed opening against Louisville in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
Sounds like we're going to Lexington.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 14, 2025, 08:56 AMCBS has us a 10 seed opening against BYU in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
ESPN has us a 10 seed opening against Louisville in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
Sounds like we're going to Lexington.
That will be as bad as when they sent us to Austin for the first two rounds in 1995.
Boogie practicing tomorrow and available to play in the tourney.
Greenberg just said Boogie will be back for the NCAAs.
This is a good thing. We need his minutes. I assume he'll play a role off the bench.
This makes us better....
That's good news. He's been taking a dive in a lot of mock drafts. Down to 2nd round in some now. Hopefully he can put together a couple good games for us and for himself.
Be great to get Thiero back too.
Somebody, maybe this same guy, did this w/ NSJ a couple years back. Still hilarious.
https://x.com/strait_vibinn/status/1901018135454461972
I mean, who doesn't like Candlebox??
Hope Boogie has been running.
Saw him shooting with his left in a clip from the SECT. He needs to run and shoot constantly for a few days.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 14, 2025, 08:56 AMCBS has us a 10 seed opening against BYU in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
ESPN has us a 10 seed opening against Louisville in Lexington and then potentially getting #2 Bama.
Sounds like we're going to Lexington.
I am sure the committee would think it will be good tv if they send Cal back to Lexington
Being floated that Fland will play in the first round.
Cal does know how to play things. "Who's injured and who will be playing" is somehow a consideration in seeding and placement. Get this out in the press now.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 15, 2025, 09:26 PMBeing floated that Fland will play in the first round.
Cal does know how to play things. "Who's injured and who will be playing" is somehow a consideration in seeding and placement. Get this out in the press now.
exactly. the tweet to gottleib definitely had a purpose.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 15, 2025, 09:46 PMexactly. the tweet to gottleib definitely had a purpose.
Greenberg. It's all the same :hair-fire:
Cal's Gamesmanship? Maybe they think we're a solid 8/9 now and hoping we get a 7 because of Boogie news. That would tend to make sense. Because I highly doubt we want a 8/9 thinking we're a 10 now. But don't know that we have the body of work. Maybe we'll get a back handed 10 seed taking on a weak 7 from a shit conference with a good record. It's thin any way you cut it. Could just be another way to cement ourselves as a "solid team" and not an FSU situation.
Quote from: animal on Mar 16, 2025, 07:29 AMCould just be another way to cement ourselves as a "solid team" and not an FSU situation.
That's what I meant.
Could potentially put us as an 11 in Lexington vs Memphis as a 6. Cal goes back to Lexington and plays against one of his former teams. Would be a helluva first round game but I would prefer to not play Memphis.
We were not playing very good, and were losing, when Boogie was playing.
I'm not sure why anyone would think adding that same guy back who has been sitting for a few months would all the sudden elevate our team play.
Don't misunderstand. Having him back is a net positive if only to provide a breather for the other guys. But, I think we need to temper expectations a tad.
seem to be a consensus 10th seed. lexington against st. mary's is what lunardi has, jerry palm has us against st. mary's in cleveland.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 08:58 AMWe were not playing very good, and were losing, when Boogie was playing.
I'm not sure why anyone would think adding that same guy back who has been sitting for a few months would all the sudden elevate our team play.
Don't misunderstand. Having him back is a net positive if only to provide a breather for the other guys. But, I think we need to temper expectations a tad.
Yes there's no doubt when he was playing he either hogged the ball and took a lot of shots and/or he's the stud and everyone was deferring to him because he's a "star" but when he was gone it forced the team to play umm team ball. Mostly I don't think it was working with Boogie, Wagner, and Davis on the court at the same time. If Boogie can give us minutes that's going to allow Richmond to play a more natural position...gives us options mostly.
The other side to this is What if he's so good you can't take him off the floor? That's a good problem to have but player conditioning and timing may be a huge factor. Speed of the game. My guess is he won't see significant time...won't be surprised if Cal doesn't play him at all if we are winning. You might put him in if we're down 10 or something and need a spark.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 16, 2025, 09:12 AMseem to be a consensus 10th seed. lexington against st. mary's is what lunardi has, jerry palm has us against st. mary's in cleveland.
We could do a lot worse.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 08:58 AMWe were not playing very good, and were losing, when Boogie was playing.
I'm not sure why anyone would think adding that same guy back who has been sitting for a few months would all the sudden elevate our team play.
Don't misunderstand. Having him back is a net positive if only to provide a breather for the other guys. But, I think we need to temper expectations a tad.
One more competent three point shooter (best on team before injury).
He keeps Billy out of the point guard/turnover factory role when DJ is on the bench.
We have to trust that Cal won't go back to the "everyone stand around and watch Boogie create" offense that we ran before the injury.
No one complained about Boogie hogging the ball when he was playing. He was on pace for one of the best assist seasons we've had in a long time. He had one of the highest assist to TO ratios in the country.
Were players deferring to him, maybe. But he rarely took bad shots. Rarely took shots early in the shot clock. A lot of times the ball came back to him late in the clock to make a play. He tried to get others shots more than anyone.
Davis, Knox, Aidoo, Z, and Richmond struggled early. That was not due to how Boogie played. They missed shots they should make. Boogie was arguably the most consistent player we had. Especially at guard.
It wasn't Boogies fault that Davis and Aidoo were hurt and not playing worth a shit. I suspect his assist numbers would be a lot better if they could have chunked it in the ocean. I think it's awesome that he's back.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 16, 2025, 10:58 AMOne more competent three point shooter (best on team before injury).
He keeps Billy out of the point guard/turnover factory role when DJ is on the bench.
We have to trust that Cal won't go back to the "everyone stand around and watch Boogie create" offense that we ran before the injury.
We've ran more "floppy" sets and less PnR since Boogie went. That has worked. I wouldn't think Cal would go away from that.
Boogie sitting and watching should help him coming back. Those sets won't take away from his play.
Quote from: Lurk on Mar 16, 2025, 11:07 AMIt wasn't Boogies fault that Davis and Aidoo were hurt and not playing worth a shit. I suspect his assist numbers would be a lot better if they could have chunked it in the ocean. I think it's awesome that he's back.
Correct. He had high assists on a team that wasn't shooting it well.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 11:06 AMNo one complained about Boogie hogging the ball when he was playing.
You're not serious. Of course that was a topic of conversation.
One of the things that makes DJ a great PG is driving to the basket. I worry that Boogie would be worried about reinjuring his hand and maybe stay on the perimeter.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 11:33 AMYou're not serious. Of course that was a topic of conversation.
Find it. If it was mentioned. it's an awful take. Taking 13 shots a game while averaging 6 assists and playing 35 mins a game is not a ball hog. Far from it.
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 16, 2025, 11:41 AMOne of the things that makes DJ a great PG is driving to the basket. I worry that Boogie would be worried about reinjuring his hand and maybe stay on the perimeter.
That's where I want him. He can freaking shoot.
it's almost like your best ball handler isn't supposed to have the ball in his hands.
fland playing has no downside. if his game is back, he'll be nothing but an asset. if it's not, he'll sit.
If nothing else, he is an extra (and talented) body and can spell DJ. Had we gone to OT against Ole Miss we would have either finished the game with walkons or played 4 guys.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 11:48 AMFind it. If it was mentioned. it's an awful take. Taking 13 shots a game while averaging 6 assists and playing 35 mins a game is not a ball hog. Far from it.
Well, I'm not going to search my hundreds of posts to find it and I don't even know how to find it anyway, but I remember making the point when Boogie was playing and we were losing, that it's not a good setup to have your point guard be your leading scorer and most frequent shooter. PG should be the distributor and facilitator.
It's the exact opposite of an awful take. It's a take that's been proven correct by subsequent events.
So by any metric other than winning games Boogie Fland was just super. Basically Allen Iverson without the winning. Got it.
All that being said sure I understand the dynamics of the team wasn't in shape, some dudes hurt, we've basically played hurt for most of the season and are still hurt. The only way this team "gels" is if we go on a six game winning streak to end the season. :stache:
PG should be a distributor and facilitator...he was on pace to have the best assist seasons in school history with guys around him shooting poorly. His assist to TO is almost 4 which would be top 3 in school history.
Point guards today are both distributors and scorers. I thought he balanced both very well. Took over when needed. Distributed when needed.
Quick check.... Boogie's apg is tied for 5th highest in schoold history
Kareem had 1 season with 6.64
Jabril Durham had 1 season with 6.38
Lee had 1 season with 5.94
Fortson had 1 season with 5.93
Without him, we don't win a lot of those early games. Ever dissing him was stupid. He needs to get bigger(and will since he's just 18), but he's got the complete game.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 11:48 AMFind it. If it was mentioned. it's an awful take. Taking 13 shots a game while averaging 6 assists and playing 35 mins a game is not a ball hog. Far from it.
Agree. I don't recall anyone complaining he is/was a ball hog.
There were so many things to complain about I don't know how anyone would ever get to that level of observation.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 01:42 PMAgree. I don't recall anyone complaining he is/was a ball hog.
There were so many things to complain about I don't know how anyone would ever get to that level of observation.
It was SMH and the mouse in his pocket, I guess.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 12:38 PMWell, I'm not going to search my hundreds of posts to find it and I don't even know how to find it anyway, but I remember making the point when Boogie was playing and we were losing, that it's not a good setup to have your point guard be your leading scorer and most frequent shooter. PG should be the distributor and facilitator.
It's the exact opposite of an awful take. It's a take that's been proven correct by subsequent events.
Several NBA point guards would like a word with you.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 12:38 PMWell, I'm not going to search my hundreds of posts to find it and I don't even know how to find it anyway, but I remember making the point when Boogie was playing and we were losing, that it's not a good setup to have your point guard be your leading scorer and most frequent shooter. PG should be the distributor and facilitator.
It's the exact opposite of an awful take. It's a take that's been proven correct by subsequent events.
I do think this is a reasonable take.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 01:57 PMI do think this is a reasonable take.
A PG averaging 15 pts and 6 apg shooting better than any guard on the roster (at the time), taking 13 shots a game is considered a ball hog. That's a reasonable take?
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:02 PMA PG averaging 15 pts and 6 apg shooting better than any guard on the roster (at the time), taking 13 shots a game is considered a ball hog. That's a reasonable take?
Scoreboard.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:15 PMScoreboard?
Scoreboard is a colloquial way to say "the results speak for themselves."
Also, I never said ball hog, and I never blamed Boogie. If anything, it was a criticism of coaches for setting up our team where the leading scorer was also the PG. Not his fault, but not optimal.
As the scoreboard shows.
Seriously, who doesn't want the best player on our team to come back? Please post now. Not when we happen to lose.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:02 PMA PG averaging 15 pts and 6 apg shooting better than any guard on the roster (at the time), taking 13 shots a game is considered a ball hog. That's a reasonable take?
That's not what I was agreeing with.
We have issues if our point guard is the leading shot taker.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Mar 16, 2025, 02:17 PMSeriously, who doesn't want the best player on our team to come back? Please post now. Not when we happen to lose.
That's the rub. If bringing the best player back means we lose whatever we found that wins games, I'll pass.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Mar 16, 2025, 02:17 PMSeriously, who doesn't want the best player on our team to come back? Please post now. Not when we happen to lose.
I want him to come back. We desperately need players. And he's a good one.
I want him to be used differently than how he was used before he got hurt.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 02:16 PMScoreboard is a colloquial way to say "the results speak for themselves."
Also, I never said ball hog, and I never blamed Boogie. If anything, it was a criticism of coaches for setting up our team where the leading scorer was also the PG. Not his fault, but not optimal.
As the scoreboard shows.
Yes you did.
We were losing games because Davis was taking < 5 shots in 30 mins. He was shooting under 30%. Big Z played like a baby pillow. Aidoo was nowhere to be found. Knox was shooting 28% and 15% from 3. Thiero and Boogie were the only consistent contributors but that is where you want to lay blame? To one of the 2 guys that didn't play poorly.
It's a poor take and a simple excuse.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 02:22 PMThat's not what I was agreeing with.
We have issues if our point guard is the leading shot taker.
What about Sears with Bama last year? Walter Clayton? Josh Hubbard? We made an elite 8 with Notae at PG.
Pro's Ja, Curry, SGA are all scoring PG's on teams that have success.
Why is that an issue? I honestly think it's a plus.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Mar 16, 2025, 02:17 PMSeriously, who doesn't want the best player on our team to come back? Please post now. Not when we happen to lose.
What I don't want is for everyone to stand around waiting for Boogie to do something. Everyone right now is a lot more engaged than they used to be. Not saying that's Boogie's fault, but it did happen a lot.
We need players. Period. Glad he is back.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 02:38 PMI did?
Should be easy to quote then.
Are you serious??
I said no one complained about Boogie being a ball hog and if they did it's an awful take. You replied that you're too lazy to look it up but that you mentioned it when we were losing.
Do you not remember that part of the conversation from an hour ago??
Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 16, 2025, 02:45 PMWhat I don't want is for everyone to stand around waiting for Boogie to do something. Everyone right now is a lot more engaged than they used to be. Not saying that's Boogie's fault, but it did happen a lot.
Neither do I. Run the same stuff we have been running and plug Boogie in when needed. We've been playing Billy out of position as a backup PG. Add a true PG and let Billy do what he does best.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:45 PMAre you serious??
I said no one complained about Boogie being a ball hog and if they did it's an awful take. You replied that you're too lazy to look it up but that you mentioned it when we were losing.
Do you not remember that part of the conversation from an hour ago??
I was too loose with the part of you I quoted. As our conversation has gone on I have made my position clear.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 12:38 PMI remember making the point when Boogie was playing and we were losing, that it's not a good setup to have your point guard be your leading scorer and most frequent shooter. PG should be the distributor and facilitator.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 02:16 PMI never blamed Boogie. If anything, it was a criticism of coaches for setting up our team where the leading scorer was also the PG. Not his fault, but not optimal.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 16, 2025, 02:28 PMI want him to come back. We desperately need players. And he's a good one.
I want him to be used differently than how he was used before he got hurt.
Based on the last thing you said, hell we might even be in agreement since it's so close to my last quote. Peace, love, and harmony, brother.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:47 PMRun the same stuff we have been running and plug Boogie in when needed. We've been playing Billy out of position as a backup PG. Add a true PG and let Billy do what he does best.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 16, 2025, 02:37 PMWhat about Sears with Bama last year? Walter Clayton? Josh Hubbard? We made an elite 8 with Notae at ;D PG.
Pro's Ja, Curry, SGA are all scoring PG's on teams that have success.
Why is that an issue? I honestly think it's a plus.
Hey, why are you brining facts to this debate!
Let's just agree that we are both right. ;D
Amen. I just want to win. We need bodies and we're getting a good player back.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 16, 2025, 02:56 PMHey, why are you brining facts to this debate!
Let's just agree that we are both right. ;D
I concede on the side I am wrong. :leo:
Boogie being back is a net positive. And we are going to win our first round game.
After we get to the elite 8 or final 4, do we have to worry about someone stealing Cal in the offseason?
Some of you guys will just haggle over anything. Just admit you are wrong and move on. Boogie was a ball hog that didn't shoot that much but dominated the ball so of course his assists were up. :stache:
Bleacher Report has us as an 11 seed, playing UCLA (#6). Winner to play.....winner of Grand Canyon v Kentucky. You can guess where that would be.
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Mar 16, 2025, 03:01 PMWinner to play.....winner of Grand Canyon v Kentucky.
Will their women's coach be there?
Not Kentucky.
Is there any chance Thiero returns or is that a pipe dream? I don't follow NBA at all so I'm not sure of his draft potential. If he's not a first rounder wouldn't our NIL package be the more attractive option? I'm assuming we'll get Knox and Richmond back but could see Z going pro somewhere. Add a couple of legit veteran bigs from the portal to go with the freshman guards and we'll be pretty salty.
it's not the one year nil payment these guys would be worried about. it's getting into their rookie contract. the standard exception deal for a mid 2nd round pick is:
$1.157 mil 1st year
$1.955 mil 2nd year
$2.296 mil 3rd year
$2.486 for the team option season
he's projected as a late 1st, early 2nd rounder even with him not playing down the stretch. i personally doubt arkansas is going to, or is giving him, over what he could make his first season in nba.
It is my understanding that Thiero has played his last game at the U of A. A week or 2 ago I saw some mocks that had him going ahead of Boogie. Around the 25th-ish pick I believe. A lot more should come out about the extent of what's been going on w/ his injuries in the pre-draft process.
As far as Z, I've wondered if the Ivisic brothers have a dream to play one more year...together. Illinois Ivisic is currently a projected 2nd rounder. Would they play here together, or would they play at Illinois? What would it cost us? Would Cal want that?
I'm also hoping we could get the Owen Freeman kid...transfer big from Iowa.
And still have an unfounded belief (hope) that Cal has kept his henchmen in touch w/ Quaintance at Arizona State. Would love to have him here for his sophomore year.
Also, found this pullover zip that Calipari wore the other day. It is a baseball pullover. I got mine today. It runs a size small in my opinion but still works. IMG_0282.jpeg It is THICK. More of an early spring/fall pullover.
https://shop.arkansasrazorbacks.com/product/fleece-1-4-z-vint-crims-sm---722247-1
https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1902176320198447463?t=mA701Ww0hoCgNgsZhU9ZlA&s=19 (https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1902176320198447463?t=mA701Ww0hoCgNgsZhU9ZlA&s=19)
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 18, 2025, 09:07 PMhttps://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1902176320198447463?t=mA701Ww0hoCgNgsZhU9ZlA&s=19 (https://x.com/CoachCalArk/status/1902176320198447463?t=mA701Ww0hoCgNgsZhU9ZlA&s=19)
Wow. Keady is almost unrecognizable.
I mean, I realize he's like 97 years old.
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1902477892874813602?s=46&t=kyWBME90McQQ-6xFuh6P5w
Watched vids on hin the other day. He can play. Handles the ball, shoots it well, and can play inside.
We didn't want Ament anyway.
We could very well get Z back and big men tend to develop slower so getting Z as a 3rd year player is not necessarily a bad thing. He's certainly got his moments when he's healthy. I think we need a couple Kamni type guys on this roster that don't cost much if anything, just plant them and when we need a hatchet man you put them in.
Also I'd rather have a 20 year old than a baby out of high school but I figure if that dude that's probably going to Dook if he were to commit here I figure they'll find a spot.
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 19, 2025, 05:41 PMWe didn't want Ament anyway.
ament has to want arkansas.
https://x.com/Hogballburner/status/1902487993815814342?t=L2aGX2FT_rf9X89xWV12gg&s=19 (https://x.com/Hogballburner/status/1902487993815814342?t=L2aGX2FT_rf9X89xWV12gg&s=19)
Damn, he got handles like a point guard
A guy who played professionally in Lithuania can play college ball?
Can an NBA player who went straight from high school to the pros also go back and play college ball?
If so, I can think of some 40+ year olds we should sign yesterday.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 19, 2025, 09:13 PMA guy who played professionally in Lithuania can play college ball?
almost every player signed from overseas has played pro ball. we already have one on the team, big z.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 19, 2025, 09:18 PMalmost every player signed from overseas has played pro ball. we already have one on the team, big z.
I didn't know this.
Still, can we sign an nba player who never played college ball?
From an NCAA perspective, what is the difference? Professional is professional.
per the ncaa, an athlete cannot go (or go back) to college and play in the same sport he signed a professional contract for. why that is i have no idea.
i know a few ex-mlb players have gone back to college and played other sports. we have one of those on the football team.
It will happen eventually. Somebody will go pro after a couple years in college, ride pine in the NBA or G League for a couple years, maybe play a couple years in Europe, then come back to "finish their education". Petition the NCAA to play and win. NCAA doesn't have the power they once did.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 19, 2025, 10:11 PMper the ncaa, an athlete cannot go (or go back) to college and play in the same sport he signed a professional contract for. why that is i have no idea.
So now i has the confussions.
Rtail played professionally in Lebanon. He has signed to play for the Hogs. did he play for free?
If not, How does that not violate what you wrote?
the rule applies to guys that went to high school in the states.
Yeah, they don't have high school sports like we do. The good basketball players start playing professionally at 13 to 15 years old.
didn't realize it until cal mentioned during his presser that the portal opens on monday.
says he's going to meet with some guys because he needs to know who's staying or leaving either thru the portal or giving the nba a shot.
Quote from: vegashog on Mar 22, 2025, 07:50 PMdidn't realize it until cal mentioned during his presser that the portal opens on monday.
says he's going to meet with some guys because he needs to know who's staying or leaving either thru the portal or giving the nba a shot.
Why does it open during the tourny?
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Mar 23, 2025, 06:15 AMWhy does it open during the tourny?
I guess because there's only 16 teams left and there's what, 330-340 teams in D1 basketball?
Another stupid decision by the NCAA.
Quote from: HughJasole on Mar 23, 2025, 08:46 AMI guess because there's only 16 teams left and there's what, 330-340 teams in D1 basketball?
sure ok unreasonable to make the remainder of ball to wait for another couple weeks for the season to end.
Overall I don't know that it's a big big deal...I doubt you'll have very many players announce they are portal bound while still participating in the dance. Perhaps behind closed doors but I doubt anything will be made public until after the season has met it's end. I think Cal probably wants to know who's he's counting on to be back so he's probably going to try to get some answers to those questions sooner rather than later so he can send staff out to do their bag man thing.
I can somewhat understand if you're up against a school semester but you're not. No reason not to wait a couple more weeks.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 23, 2025, 09:42 AMI can somewhat understand if you're up against a school semester but you're not. No reason not to wait a couple more weeks.
same thing is done with football and everyone hates it worse. I'm kinda suprised basketball isn't firing coaches 3/4 thru the season like what is happening more frequently in football to "get a jump" on recruiting. A basketball program could be completely torpedoed in a matter of a few days now days.
That series is really good.
Well I've sulked like a whiny bitch all day. Can't go 5 minutes without thinking about it. I knew what was probably going to happen tomorrow but I just wanted one more day...one more shot at it...as we all did.
To be cliche, it was a true rollercoaster of a season. Here's to Cal, here's to the boys...
Time to put a bow on it and this thread.
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Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Mar 28, 2025, 10:22 PMWell I've sulked like a whiny bitch all day. Can't go 5 minutes without thinking about it. I knew what was probably going to happen tomorrow but I just wanted one more day...one more shot at it...as we all did.
To be cliche, it was a true rollercoaster of a season. Here's to Cal, here's to the boys...
Time to put a bow on it and this thread.
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Great grab.
Hard to believe that movie was released 20 years ago.
Florida would have steamrolled us. That game would have been over the first 10 minutes. I hate we lost, but it may have been for the better. We beat two pretty good teams and barely lost to another one. That is better than getting skulled.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 28, 2025, 10:38 PMFlorida would have steamrolled us. That game would have been over the first 10 minutes. I hate we lost, but it may have been for the better. We beat two pretty good teams and barely lost to another one. That is better than getting skulled.
I agree with this..that team is LOADED...their guards are big time....they have that Perry Ellis smell without the one school tenure
Can't really complain about Musselman and Cal but watching Houston over the same time period can't help but thinking that once again, HY missed the boat when he didn't give Sampson whatever he needed to get him here. I don't care if he did want to set his son up. He is still coaching and he can flat out coach.
Sampson was my #1. Muss #2. The guy can flat out coach. Won big everywhere he's been.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 28, 2025, 10:38 PMFlorida would have steamrolled us. That game would have been over the first 10 minutes. I hate we lost, but it may have been for the better. We beat two pretty good teams and barely lost to another one. That is better than getting skulled.
He's not going to draw you a picture either, bro.
Quote from: TC on Mar 30, 2025, 09:14 PMHe's not going to draw you a picture either, bro.
I am a terrible artist.