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Title: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on May 24, 2024, 08:54 AM
Hope everybody has a great weekend. Here are just a few to remember.

Ensign Robert Munroe, 63, Lexington, Massachusetts. KIA April 19, 1775.

Josiah Haynes, 80, Sudsbury, Massachusetts. KIA April 19, 1775.

Henry Putnam, 70, Medford, Massachusetts. KIA April 19, 1775.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: mde114 on May 24, 2024, 07:47 PM
Here's to the federal government! If you're a gay transgender,they celebrate you for a month. If you die in the service of your country, they give you a day!
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: animal on May 24, 2024, 08:15 PM
Quote from: mde114 on May 24, 2024, 07:47 PMHere's to the federal government! If you're a gay transgender,they celebrate you for a month. If you die in the service of your country, they give you a day!
They'll juxtapose to some kind of gayness on Monday as opposed to honoring those that served.

I'm starting off my war movie watching with Down Periscope right now. :))
 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: buff2.0 on May 24, 2024, 08:43 PM
Rewatching Band of Brothers for the... well I've lost track of how many times I've watched it.  To watch it and then watch the "We Stand Alone Together" documentary reminds me of just how much I don't measure up.  I'll finish up the second watch of Masters of the Air, maybe some Saving Private Ryan and The Pacific. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Lurk on May 24, 2024, 08:51 PM
Quote from: animal on May 24, 2024, 08:15 PMThey'll juxtapose to some kind of gayness on Monday as opposed to honoring those that served.

I'm starting off my war movie watching with Down Periscope right now. :))
 
One of the best comedies in years.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: mde114 on May 24, 2024, 11:46 PM
Quote from: buff2.0 on May 24, 2024, 08:43 PMRewatching Band of Brothers for the... well I've lost track of how many times I've watched it.  To watch it and then watch the "We Stand Alone Together" documentary reminds me of just how much I don't measure up.  I'll finish up the second watch of Masters of the Air, maybe some Saving Private Ryan and The Pacific. 

Started watching Band myself today as well.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: TC on May 26, 2024, 01:38 AM

We talk a lot about those great men who gave it ALL, but we sometimes forget the great women and children they left behind. I believe they're also worthy of our honor and remembrance for the sacrifices they also shared.

For example, I'd like to remember Mrs. Mary Ann Williams (10 August 1821 – 15 April 1874). She was possibly the first person to propose a day to decorate soldiers graves, which turned into the current day Memorial Day. If you get a chance to do so, please read her story. Just like the men from yesteryear when we say, "They dont make them like that anymore," the same is true for great women like Mrs. Williams. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: TC on May 26, 2024, 02:36 AM
Mrs. Mary Ann Williams.

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Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: FNG on May 26, 2024, 08:20 AM
Quote from: TC on May 26, 2024, 02:36 AMMrs. Mary Ann Williams.

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Absolutely no disrespect intended but...wow.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: hit_that_line on May 26, 2024, 08:24 AM
Can't unsee that.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Texzilla on May 26, 2024, 10:18 AM
Here's to honoring all our war dead thru our history, and their families who bore the brunt of their sacrifice. 

It's not a day to honor veterans. Or first responders.  And any media source that tries to balance the day with some shitty story about military gays or trans challenges or why we need fucking Palestinians brought here can eat a bag of dicks.

Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Guardrail on May 26, 2024, 10:36 AM
Quote from: buff2.0 on May 24, 2024, 08:43 PMRewatching Band of Brothers for the... well I've lost track of how many times I've watched it.  To watch it and then watch the "We Stand Alone Together" documentary reminds me of just how much I don't measure up.  I'll finish up the second watch of Masters of the Air, maybe some Saving Private Ryan and The Pacific. 
Awesome day right there. I've started binging a series on MAX called John Adams and his place in the Revolutionary War.
I can't help compare today's 20 somethings to those young men from WW2.
Can you imagine sitting in a foxhole in 15° weather in a foot of snow in your lightweight hunting gear with people shooting at you like they did at Bastogne? or without water on steaming hot pile of rocks littered with dead people like at Peleliu?
I don't think I would have fared well.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Pig Benis on May 26, 2024, 12:43 PM
Quote from: Guardrail on May 26, 2024, 10:36 AMAwesome day right there. I've started binging a series on MAX called John Adams and his place in the Revolutionary War.
I can't help compare today's 20 somethings to those young men from WW2.
Can you imagine sitting in a foxhole in 15° weather in a foot of snow in your lightweight hunting gear with people shooting at you like they did at Bastogne? or without water on steaming hot pile of rocks littered with dead people like at Peleliu?
I don't think I would have fared well.

John Adams was a great series.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: buff2.0 on May 26, 2024, 03:07 PM
Masters of the Air is better on rewatch.  No clue how they found a plane that could carry Rosenthal's massive balls. 

If anyone feels like donating to something in honor of Memorial Day, Diego Ranch up here in Jonesboro is always looking for resources to help.

https://x.com/nammygrammy/status/1794809401523773671
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: animal on May 26, 2024, 03:51 PM
Smoking a beef tri-tip today in honor of those we've lost.

Update: that was good. I usually make Kabobs out of tri-tip but might have to start doing it this way. Makes more or less a Prime Rib type dish. Needs some horseradish sauce to accompany down the gullet but all I had was Hienz 57. Will cut the fat back off next time...wasn't sure if I needed it for flavor or not.

 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Corn Pop on May 26, 2024, 08:02 PM
Quote from: mde114 on May 24, 2024, 07:47 PMHere's to the federal government! If you're a gay transgender,they celebrate you for a month. If you die in the service of your country, they give you a day!

That is an undeniable fact.

I wonder if that bothers any of our lefty brethren here? If it does, it would be refreshing to hear them say so. I've heard them call us racists and kooks and every phone in the book, but I've never heard them say that this undeniable fact bothers them in the least.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: HogOfWar on May 26, 2024, 08:06 PM
Quote from: animal on May 26, 2024, 03:51 PMSmoking a beef tri-tip today in honor of those we've lost.

Update: that was good. I usually make Kabobs out of tri-tip but might have to start doing it this way. Makes more or less a Prime Rib type dish. Needs some horseradish sauce to accompany down the gullet but all I had was Hienz 57. Will cut the fat back off next time...wasn't sure if I needed it for flavor or not.

 

I did two slabs of ribs on the BGE. Minor issues with the fire going out after an hour, but quickly got it lit again and off to the races. Best ones I have done so far. Tender and fall off the bone.

Homemade ice cream to top it off.

Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Cinghiale on May 26, 2024, 08:34 PM
I visited the Normandy American Cemetery when I was in France a couple of years ago and I found this young Arkansan's marker.  I did a little research on him when I got back home.  He was from Current River in Randolph county. He joined his regiment in France on July 13th from a replacement battalion.  He was killed in action two weeks later on July 26th 1944.  He was 19. RIP young man.

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Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: mr.zorak on May 27, 2024, 08:22 AM
Hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day.  Thanks to all who gave all!
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: buff2.0 on May 27, 2024, 09:26 AM
I love my neighborhood.  Got one invitation for free burgers and brats at noon, and then another cookout at 6:00.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Hognrock on May 27, 2024, 01:09 PM
I've got 3 racks of ribs smoking and we'll have the traditional sides (potato salad, beans, etc). We get this day because so many gave their all. It is really somber. I'll drink a cold few for them and thank them.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Cerdo on May 28, 2024, 09:09 AM
Quote from: Corn Pop on May 26, 2024, 08:02 PMI wonder if that bothers any of our lefty brethren here? If it does, it would be refreshing to hear them say so. I've heard them call us racists and kooks and every phone in the book, but I've never heard them say that this undeniable fact bothers them in the least.
I am not a "lefty" but instead a normal, patriotic American.

We have months for librarians and months to celebrate dogs.  You are playing in to the world that seeks to trigger you because much of the political world has figured out that men are among the most easily triggered and emotional beings on this planet if you play in to their paranoia of having their long held and complete authority challenged or pushed in any way possible. 

I could say a lot but I'm not going to because I don't want to start a fight on a board that has veered to the extreme.  I'm simply speaking to the question you asked.  Peace to you. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Pigproquo on May 28, 2024, 09:53 AM
Quote from: mde114 on May 24, 2024, 07:47 PMHere's to the federal government! If you're a gay transgender,they celebrate you for a month. If you die in the service of your country, they give you a day!

Pst....

https://www.military.com/military-appreciation-month (https://www.military.com/military-appreciation-month)

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Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Corn Pop on May 28, 2024, 12:08 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 28, 2024, 09:09 AMI am not a "lefty" but instead a normal, patriotic American.

We have months for librarians and months to celebrate dogs.  You are playing in to the world that seeks to trigger you because much of the political world has figured out that men are among the most easily triggered and emotional beings on this planet if you play in to their paranoia of having their long held and complete authority challenged or pushed in any way possible. 

I could say a lot but I'm not going to because I don't want to start a fight on a board that has veered to the extreme.  I'm simply speaking to the question you asked.  Peace to you. 

As a normal, patriotic American do you approve of the military's newfound emphasis on DEI and wokeness?

Do you believe people can change their gender?

You replied to my post, but you neglected to answer the question I posed. Are you bothered by the amount of public attention and positive press given to transgenderism?

Do you think it's a good thing for America that we extended our celebration of homosexuality from one day per year to one month per year?

I am not triggered. I simply have my eyes open.

Peace to you as well.

Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Usafhawg on May 28, 2024, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Corn Pop on May 28, 2024, 12:08 PMAs a normal, patriotic American do you approve of the military's newfound emphasis on DEI and wokeness? I don't see the "emphasis" and I'm around them everyday.

Do you believe people can change their gender? No

You replied to my post, but you neglected to answer the question I posed. Are you bothered by the amount of public attention and positive press given to transgenderism? I hardly see any attention or press about transgenderism other than what I read on WooPig. Maybe I should get out more or spread my reading out more.

Do you think it's a good thing for America that we extended our celebration of homosexuality from one day per year to one month per year? I didn't extend my celebration. If others did, good for them. They can celebrate whatever they like.

I am not triggered. I simply have my eyes open.

Peace to you as well.



Wasn't addressed to me, but my answers are above.

Peace to all.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Hogworth Ballington III on May 28, 2024, 05:21 PM
Youtube algorithm popped this out yesterday:
https://youtube.com/shorts/DJxIP9oZguo?si=ousiiBTd-rLbBg89

I can only imagine some of the lifelong hurt these men go through.  A little more on Cpl Don Graves:


https://www.dclarkeevans.com/portfolio/graves-don/

"We had 335 Marines going in; 18 came off."

Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: TC on May 28, 2024, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 28, 2024, 09:09 AMI am not a "lefty" but instead a normal, patriotic American.

We have months for librarians and months to celebrate dogs.  You are playing in to the world that seeks to trigger you because much of the political world has figured out that men are among the most easily triggered and emotional beings on this planet if you play in to their paranoia of having their long held and complete authority challenged or pushed in any way possible. 

I could say a lot but I'm not going to because I don't want to start a fight on a board that has veered to the extreme.  I'm simply speaking to the question you asked.  Peace to you. 

C'mon Cerdo...you even said on the old board that "the Republican party is gonna die soon." That was back in the last year or so of Obama's admin., and I remember it well.  All due respect, but unless somethings changed, you're clearly a Democrat in your political leanings it seems.  There's nothing wrong with that of course, but I can see how you might be pissed. This was your Board before mine, and it was certainly Steve's baby...and then that Orange Asshole showed up and shit got weird.

Anyway, to say that Woopig has now "veered into the extreme," when you've been around here for 20-ish years, is in my opinion either disingenuous, or forgetful. THIS is the message board that was turning people's utilities off for being a trash talking fan of any-weeks opponent, who dared venture into our caldron of hate and discontent. We ruled the bully pulpit of the internet, and it was known. You dont come 'round Woopig with a dumb fucking take, or you're gonna get your ass handed to you. And You, ME, Steve, MDEM...we all slapped our knees in laughter at the poor sap who didnt believe and tested the powers of Woopig. That was the way it was. Until Trump was elected. Once that happened, Woopig went through a change in its political leaning. The majority shifted.


Maybe that's what you, Steve, and Muzzy didnt/dont like. But Woopig has always been on the edge of whatever; bullying, porn, racism, and men generally being uncouth...as men are apt to do. So what changed other than the political leanings here? Is it a Woopig issue, or a You issue?

Whyte Boar said it best..some of the "old guard," and I put you Cerdo in with them, was happy with the status quo for 8 years of Obama, but when Trump got elected and half of us rejoiced, it was the beginning of the end for them (and You) and the old board. Steve didnt hate the P&R board until Trump was elected and many of us showed support for him. There were several others who disappeared with him when the majority shifted. You're one of the last left. Muzzy went absolutely nuts trying to maintain the old status quo, and it marked the only time I've ever seen a mod go crazy on here. Dude was banishing people to Complete Crapola for days for pushing back against the WP status quo and speaking out in support of Trump. I think you were on a hiatus during that time, but it was absolutely nuts around here for a while until OQ reigned shit in. We havent seen any of Muzzy since then, which says alot for you. Way to stick around when it gets thick. Woopig needs an alternate voice.

I'll leave you with this...Keep posting. F the haters. You're a VERY smart man, with more life experiences than most of us dumb rednecks...and while Woopig might not exactly align with you now, history shows things will change.

Apologies to the thread for the hijack.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: buff2.0 on May 29, 2024, 06:28 AM
Quote from: TC on May 28, 2024, 10:37 PMOrange Asshole

I nominate "Marmalade Madman" as his name for 2024
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 07:04 AM
Cerdo sounds like some sort of DEI college professor throwing out woke buzz phrases.  "Having their complete authority challenged" or ""Veered to the extreme". 

You guys need to get back into the cages he is comfortable seeing you in.  Remember your decorum keep things civil and subservient to his vision of how you should comport yourselves.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DirkPiggler on May 29, 2024, 07:49 AM
Quote from: TC on May 28, 2024, 10:37 PMC'mon Cerdo...you even said on the old board that "the Republican party is gonna die soon." That was back in the last year or so of Obama's admin., and I remember it well.  All due respect, but unless somethings changed, you're clearly a Democrat in your political leanings it seems.  There's nothing wrong with that of course, but I can see how you might be pissed. This was your Board before mine, and it was certainly Steve's baby...and then that Orange Asshole showed up and shit got weird.

Anyway, to say that Woopig has now "veered into the extreme," when you've been around here for 20-ish years, is in my opinion either disingenuous, or forgetful. THIS is the message board that was turning people's utilities off for being a trash talking fan of any-weeks opponent, who dared venture into our caldron of hate and discontent. We ruled the bully pulpit of the internet, and it was known. You dont come 'round Woopig with a dumb fucking take, or you're gonna get your ass handed to you. And You, ME, Steve, MDEM...we all slapped our knees in laughter at the poor sap who didnt believe and tested the powers of Woopig. That was the way it was. Until Trump was elected. Once that happened, Woopig went through a change in its political leaning. The majority shifted.


Maybe that's what you, Steve, and Muzzy didnt/dont like. But Woopig has always been on the edge of whatever; bullying, porn, racism, and men generally being uncouth...as men are apt to do. So what changed other than the political leanings here? Is it a Woopig issue, or a You issue?

Whyte Boar said it best..some of the "old guard," and I put you Cerdo in with them, was happy with the status quo for 8 years of Obama, but when Trump got elected and half of us rejoiced, it was the beginning of the end for them (and You) and the old board. Steve didnt hate the P&R board until Trump was elected and many of us showed support for him. There were several others who disappeared with him when the majority shifted. You're one of the last left. Muzzy went absolutely nuts trying to maintain the old status quo, and it marked the only time I've ever seen a mod go crazy on here. Dude was banishing people to Complete Crapola for days for pushing back against the WP status quo and speaking out in support of Trump. I think you were on a hiatus during that time, but it was absolutely nuts around here for a while until OQ reigned shit in. We havent seen any of Muzzy since then, which says alot for you. Way to stick around when it gets thick. Woopig needs an alternate voice.

I'll leave you with this...Keep posting. F the haters. You're a VERY smart man, with more life experiences than most of us dumb rednecks...and while Woopig might not exactly align with you now, history shows things will change.

Apologies to the thread for the hijack.


I feel I need to add a little to this as someone who knows Cerdo a little in the offline world.

If you (the group, not you specifically TC)  think Cerdo is some weirdo leftist, you've never spent any time with him. 

The first time I ever met him (well, second actually) he and I sat at a Hog baseball midweek game in seats given to us by Josh Melton (who no showed on us).  We sat and talked non stop to the point where we looked up and were like "whoa, it's the eighth inning already."  And we talked about a lot of the topics of the day, including politics.  We were in agreement to some degree. or at least found some common ground, on nearly everything we discussed.  From my perspective he just doesn't fall into the tribal aspect of politics, and calls out inconsistency when he sees it.   For the record I don't always agree with his perception of groupthink, but that doesn't necessarily make him wrong.  He's probably more of a true libertarian than a lot of us here who think we are, like me until I get into a line of traffic doing 55 mph on I-40 and want to start imprisoning truckers for being in the left lane and executing texting drivers. 

But as for vouching for his character, I'm 100% in on that. Cerdo is good people.  We've done business together and come out on the other side of it unscathed and I think both would say better for it. If you haven't shared a beer or a meal with him at some point you should.  The only thing I'd ever really question him on judgment wise is some of his past selections in women...
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Son of Spam on May 29, 2024, 08:13 AM
Quote from: DirkPiggler on May 29, 2024, 07:49 AMI feel I need to add a little to this as someone who knows Cerdo a little in the offline world.

If you (the group, not you specifically TC)  think Cerdo is some weirdo leftist, you've never spent any time with him. 

The first time I ever met him (well, second actually) he and I sat at a Hog baseball midweek game in seats given to us by Josh Melton (who no showed on us).  We sat and talked non stop to the point where we looked up and were like "whoa, it's the eighth inning already."  And we talked about a lot of the topics of the day, including politics.  We were in agreement to some degree. or at least found some common ground, on nearly everything we discussed.  From my perspective he just doesn't fall into the tribal aspect of politics, and calls out inconsistency when he sees it.   For the record I don't always agree with his perception of groupthink, but that doesn't necessarily make him wrong.  He's probably more of a true libertarian than a lot of us here who think we are, like me until I get into a line of traffic doing 55 mph on I-40 and want to start imprisoning truckers for being in the left lane and executing texting drivers. 

But as for vouching for his character, I'm 100% in on that. Cerdo is good people.  We've done business together and come out on the other side of it unscathed and I think both would say better for it. If you haven't shared a beer or a meal with him at some point you should.  The only thing I'd ever really question him on judgment wise is some of his past selections in women...
^^^^^This.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: FNG on May 29, 2024, 08:46 AM
Quote from: buff2.0 on May 29, 2024, 06:28 AMI nominate "Marmalade Madman" as his name for 2024
I'd like to toss Tangerine Tornado into the ring, as well.

And, "Jaundiced Juggernaut" while I'm at it.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:13 AM
I know a guy who knows James Carville.  He says that Carville is a hell of a guy, funny, generous, and he maybe doesn't believe a lot of what he is spouting.  Great.  It doesn't change a damned thing.

The problem is not that people are too serious about politics, it's that politics are too serious today.  See, it doesn't matter if James Carville would give me the shirt off of his back, he still is advocating for policies that would flood my country with illegals, see my kids taxed to oblivion, and so on and so forth.  And no, I'm not the dick for getting mad about it.

It's sort of the same with Cerdo.  He lost the right to expect people to be civil in their discussions about politics when politics became a matter of life and death.

Oh well, rant over.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Usafhawg on May 29, 2024, 10:27 AM
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:13 AMI know a guy who knows James Carville.  He says that Carville is a hell of a guy, funny, generous, and he maybe doesn't believe a lot of what he is spouting.  Great.  It doesn't change a damned thing.

The problem is not that people are too serious about politics, it's that politics are too serious today.  See, it doesn't matter if James Carville would give me the shirt off of his back, he still is advocating for policies that would flood my country with illegals, see my kids taxed to oblivion, and so on and so forth.  And no, I'm not the dick for getting mad about it.

It's sort of the same with Cerdo.  He lost the right to expect people to be civil in their discussions about politics when politics became a matter of life and death.

Oh well, rant over.

Somebody is taking WooPig too serious.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Hogworth Ballington III on May 29, 2024, 10:28 AM
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:13 AMI know a guy who knows James Carville.  He says that Carville is a hell of a guy, funny, generous, and he maybe doesn't believe a lot of what he is spouting.  Great.  It doesn't change a damned thing.

The problem is not that people are too serious about politics, it's that politics are too serious today.  See, it doesn't matter if James Carville would give me the shirt off of his back, he still is advocating for policies that would flood my country with illegals, see my kids taxed to oblivion, and so on and so forth.  And no, I'm not the dick for getting mad about it.

It's sort of the same with Cerdo.  He lost the right to expect people to be civil in their discussions about politics when politics became a matter of life and death.

Oh well, rant over.

Whose life and whose death? I'm not trying to be snarky, but people get triggered over politics more and more now. They're watching the 24 hr news machine that makes its bottom line on keeping emotional investment high through anger, fear, or both. And if it's not that, it's the detached social media monolith driving the narrative.

Sure, people are probably dying indirectly (and even directly) from policy choices. But when has that ever not been the case? From the lady driven to drugs and living on the street because she got kicked off welfare, to the guy making out with his s&w because he couldn't keep up with unregulated mortgage hikes. No government has never made a paradise for their people, but to think that it's somehow astronomically worse or that the stakes are more severe now is probably not much different than the crazy old guy on the street corner shouting, "The End Is Nigh!!!"
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DirkPiggler on May 29, 2024, 10:31 AM
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:13 AMI know a guy who knows James Carville.  He says that Carville is a hell of a guy, funny, generous, and he maybe doesn't believe a lot of what he is spouting.  Great.  It doesn't change a damned thing.

The problem is not that people are too serious about politics, it's that politics are too serious today.  See, it doesn't matter if James Carville would give me the shirt off of his back, he still is advocating for policies that would flood my country with illegals, see my kids taxed to oblivion, and so on and so forth.  And no, I'm not the dick for getting mad about it.

It's sort of the same with Cerdo.  He lost the right to expect people to be civil in their discussions about politics when politics became a matter of life and death.

Oh well, rant over.

Please tell us what Cerdo is advocating for that is a matter of life and death.  Or for that matter, what he's saying that is in opposition to what you or I believe.  Please limit it to what he actually said, not what you think or assume he said, or what you think he actually meant when he said something else. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:36 AM
Quote from: DirkPiggler on May 29, 2024, 10:31 AMPlease tell us what Cerdo is advocating for that is a matter of life and death.  Or for that matter, what he's saying that is in opposition to what you or I believe.  Please limit it to what he actually said, not what you think or assume he said, or what you think he actually meant when he said something else. 

Cerdo is a little like the media.  He can't just comment straight up.  The board has become too "extreme".  People are just mad because their expectation of "complete control" has been "challenged" and so on and so forth.  I prefer my sanctimony a bit less on the passive aggressive side.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Lurk on May 29, 2024, 10:37 AM
I've been watching a few of these.

Edited to add: Ann Margaret is my all time topiwltft.

https://youtu.be/a5JAU48Moi0
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:39 AM
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on May 29, 2024, 10:28 AMWhose life and whose death? I'm not trying to be snarky, but people get triggered over politics more and more now. They're watching the 24 hr news machine that makes its bottom line on keeping emotional investment high through anger, fear, or both. And if it's not that, it's the detached social media monolith driving the narrative.

Sure, people are probably dying indirectly (and even directly) from policy choices. But when has that ever not been the case? From the lady driven to drugs and living on the street because she got kicked off welfare, to the guy making out with his s&w because he couldn't keep up with unregulated mortgage hikes. No government has never made a paradise for their people, but to think that it's somehow astronomically worse or that the stakes are more severe now is probably not much different than the crazy old guy on the street corner shouting, "The End Is Nigh!!!"

40 million illegal aliens in this country right now and about ten million in the last three years.  $34 trillion dollars in debt that could see us in Weimar territory.  Anyone who doesn't believe things are more serious than they've been in this country in a long damned time is a fool.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:21 PM
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 10:13 AMThe problem is not that people are too serious about politics, it's that politics are too serious today.

It's sort of the same with Cerdo.  He lost the right to expect people to be civil in their discussions about politics when politics became a matter of life and death.


The P&R section is 97% politics.  Politics is bloodsport and bullshit.  Biden or Trump does ANYTHING and the outrage or devotion is basically predictable because "politics".  Policy may have some life or death implications, but I don't see much talk about policy at all anymore because everyone is talking politics.

To answer the other poster's question about wokeness and DEI in the military and sex changes - I really don't think it's an issue worth devoting much debate too.  If an adult wants to cut their penis off and be a woman and do a sex change, I mean, whatever.  I know and deal with a thousand people a week and can think of one customer I had years ago that seemed to be a man dressed up as a woman and my daughter recounts to me 2 people she grew up with that seem to be wandering around the sexual spectrum.  This is what you want me to worry about?  Or vote to?

I mean, if I was the political party that claimed to care about fiscal responsibility that has spent money like a drunken sailor since 2000 and had its most recent president run up all time debt in one term with huge inflationary practices that are directly contributing to the problems we are having today, I'd probably start working people up over social causes too.  The party of "individual rights" has cleaved MORE citizens of their individual rights over the last 2 decades than any other group.  It's always easy to rile up emotion.  We've had partisan kneejerk around here forever - left and right, but now there is a cult of personality and I'm not really down with that.     

My choices in women have been questionable but there is a lot of truth to those stereotypes about crazy. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on May 29, 2024, 12:35 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:21 PMThe P&R section is 97% politics.  Politics is bloodsport and bullshit.  Biden or Trump does ANYTHING and the outrage or devotion is basically predictable because "politics".  Policy may have some life or death implications, but I don't see much talk about policy at all anymore because everyone is talking politics.

To answer the other poster's question about wokeness and DEI in the military and sex changes - I really don't think it's an issue worth devoting much debate too.  If an adult wants to cut their penis off and be a woman and do a sex change, I mean, whatever.  I know and deal with a thousand people a week and can think of one customer I had years ago that seemed to be a man dressed up as a woman and my daughter recounts to me 2 people she grew up with that seem to be wandering around the sexual spectrum.  This is what you want me to worry about?  Or vote to?

I mean, if I was the political party that claimed to care about fiscal responsibility that has spent money like a drunken sailor since 2000 and had its most recent president run up all time debt in one term with huge inflationary practices that are directly contributing to the problems we are having today, I'd probably start working people up over social causes too.  The party of "individual rights" has cleaved MORE citizens of their individual rights over the last 2 decades than any other group.  It's always easy to rile up emotion.  We've had partisan kneejerk around here forever - left and right, but now there is a cult of personality and I'm not really down with that.     

My choices in women have been questionable but there is a lot of truth to those stereotypes about crazy. 


Cerdo privately encouraged me several years ago to at least stick my toe in the pool of crazy. I can vouch that the pool is deep and wide and the chemical balance is not always properly maintained.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:37 PM
I figure Bass probably wonders what day he'll wake up with a knife in his chest.  I've wondered that too but I still can't get the memories of the great sex off my mind. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Son of Spam on May 29, 2024, 12:41 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:37 PMI figure Bass probably wonders what day he'll wake up with a knife in his chest.  I've wondered that too but I still can't get the memories of the great sex off my mind. 
:thumb_up:
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DirkPiggler on May 29, 2024, 01:57 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:37 PMI figure Bass probably wonders what day he'll wake up with a knife in his chest.  I've wondered that too but I still can't get the memories of the great sex off my mind. 
Not going to lie, I'm shocked you're still with us.   Not Woopig us...alive us. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: BASS on May 29, 2024, 02:07 PM
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on May 29, 2024, 12:35 PMCerdo privately encouraged me several years ago to at least stick my toe in the pool of crazy. I can vouch that the pool is deep and wide and the chemical balance is not always properly maintained.

But it's a helluva fun pool. Sometimes. Others it is quite maddening.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: BASS on May 29, 2024, 02:08 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:37 PMI figure Bass probably wonders what day he'll wake up with a knife in his chest.  I've wondered that too but I still can't get the memories of the great sex off my mind. 

So far so good. Going on another cruise at the end of July. We'll see if get pushed off the upper deck this time.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on May 29, 2024, 02:27 PM
Quote from: BASS on May 29, 2024, 02:07 PMBut it's a helluva fun pool. Sometimes. Others it is quite maddening.

I haven't found it to be too maddening. You just have to recognize it for what it is quickly as possible and walk away from it during the free trial. Don't buy a membership and realize there are basically unlimited pools out there that you can try.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Son of Spam on May 29, 2024, 02:37 PM
Usually, if they are very attractive and single and are not dating anyone regularly,  there is a reason. Not every time, but a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 03:25 PM
Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on May 29, 2024, 02:27 PMI haven't found it to be too maddening. You just have to recognize it for what it is quickly as possible and walk away from it during the free trial. Don't buy a membership and realize there are basically unlimited pools out there that you can try.
See.  This is your experience and wisdom talking.  Once you start feeling like you're rescuing a cat from a tree, then move on. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: The Whyte Boar on May 29, 2024, 04:24 PM
QuoteThe P&R section is 97% politics.  Politics is bloodsport and bullshit.  Biden or Trump does ANYTHING and the outrage or devotion is basically predictable because "politics".  Policy may have some life or death implications, but I don't see much talk about policy at all anymore because everyone is talking politics.

500,000 people at least are dead in Ukraine because or policy pursued by this government, specifically Joe Biden and crew.  It never had to happen, it could have stopped within days or weeks of starting but our government's policy favors it.  And it is paid for with my money.

QuoteTo answer the other poster's question about wokeness and DEI in the military and sex changes - I really don't think it's an issue worth devoting much debate too.  If an adult wants to cut their penis off and be a woman and do a sex change, I mean, whatever.  I know and deal with a thousand people a week and can think of one customer I had years ago that seemed to be a man dressed up as a woman and my daughter recounts to me 2 people she grew up with that seem to be wandering around the sexual spectrum.  This is what you want me to worry about?  Or vote to?

I could make arguments about the military, but let's not muddy rhe waters.  I could largely agree with you were it limited to adults.  It isn't.  Governments across the country are encouraging children to undertake life altering procedures and limiting the ability and rights of parents to have a say in these matters.  That's policy enacted by government that has real world and real time effects on individuals altering and destroying lives.

QuoteI mean, if I was the political party that claimed to care about fiscal responsibility that has spent money like a drunken sailor since 2000 and had its most recent president run up all time debt in one term with huge inflationary practices that are directly contributing to the problems we are having today, I'd probably start working people up over social causes too.  The party of "individual rights" has cleaved MORE citizens of their individual rights over the last 2 decades than any other group.  It's always easy to rile up emotion.  We've had partisan kneejerk around here forever - left and right, but now there is a cult of personality and I'm not really down with that.     

Spending is a government policy issue that cuts across party lines.  It is too high.  It should be drastically cut.

As for the party of "individual rights" cleaving the rights of more people, I agree the Democratic party of civil liberties has become downright fascistic and is basically willing to target anyone that disagrees with its craziness with lawfare and or increasingly draconian laws. 
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Hognrock on May 29, 2024, 05:16 PM
Quote from: Cerdo on May 29, 2024, 12:37 PMI figure Bass probably wonders what day he'll wake up with a knife in his chest.  I've wondered that too but I still can't get the memories of the great sex off my mind. 

Crazy fucks the best. You might wake up with a knife in your chest and/or had the best sex ever

We still need to have some beers together. Maybe SonofSpam can arrange that.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: BASS on May 29, 2024, 06:47 PM
Quote from: Hognrock on May 29, 2024, 05:16 PMCrazy fucks the best. You might wake up with a knife in your chest and/or had the best sex ever

We still need to have some beers together. Maybe SonofSpam can arrange that.

Invite me please
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Hognrock on May 29, 2024, 06:59 PM
Quote from: BASS on May 29, 2024, 06:47 PMInvite me please

If me, SoS, Credo and you have beers the world might implode and Rick B will be there watching. It would be fun though. 👍🤘
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: Corn Pop on May 29, 2024, 07:00 PM
I used to be unfazed by politics. Oh what a peaceful feeling. That was back before Covid and George Floyd and the Summer of Love.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2024
Post by: animal on May 29, 2024, 09:25 PM
Thought this deserves an honorable mention. It was on the internet so it has to be true.


Hedy Lamarr, often proclaimed "the most beautiful woman in the world." The 26-yr-old Lamarr was thriving in Hollywood when, in September 1940, Nazi U-boats hunted down & sank a cruise ship trying to evacuate 90 British schoolchildren to Canada. 77 drowned in the bleak north Atlantic. Lamarr, a Jewish immigrant from Nazi-occupied Austria, who had been making America her home since 1938, was outraged. She fought back by applying her engineering skills to development of a sonar sub-locator used in the Atlantic for the benefit of the Allies. The principles of her work are now incorporated into modern Wi-Fi, CDMA and Bluetooth technology, and this work led to her to be inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame in 2014.

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