I really get into WWII history. D-Day is such a testament for the fortitude and bravery of thousands of young souls. Such a solemn place I hope to visit one day. That opening scene in Saving Private Ryan where they drop the doors on the Higgins boats. Damn...
**And to see Biden representing my country staggering and peg legging around in front of the crowd makes me irrationally angry. He looks like he has zero idea where he is.
D-Day is one of those situations where some movie version of a giant swath of heroes charging in to battle was actual reality.
I'm always awestruck by it all and visiting Normandy is at the top of my life list as I age. My Dad made it through boot camp to try and get in to action until they discovered he was 15.
It would be so awesome if Woopig and the media kept the hyper emotional politics out of today's remembrance.
Quote from: Cerdo on Jun 06, 2024, 06:48 AMD-Day is one of those situations where some movie version of a giant swath of heroes charging in to battle was actual reality.
I'm always awestruck by it all and visiting Normandy is at the top of my life list as I age. My Dad made it through boot camp to try and get in to action until they discovered he was 15.
It would be so awesome if Woopig and the media kept the hyper emotional politics out of today's remembrance.
Yeah. I should've kept that to myself. D-Day is a day for reverence.
Thumbs up.
It worries me that people forget what heroes really are.
Quote from: Cerdo on Jun 06, 2024, 06:48 AMD-Day is one of those situations where some movie version of a giant swath of heroes charging in to battle was actual reality.
I'm always awestruck by it all and visiting Normandy is at the top of my life list as I age. My Dad made it through boot camp to try and get in to action until they discovered he was 15.
It would be so awesome if Woopig and the media kept the hyper emotional politics out of today's remembrance.
Well, you should have told Joe Biden because he is using his D Day speech to pimp for more war in Ukraine.
Finishing Band of Brothers while I work today. Will do Saving Private Ryan tonight.
The landing craft driver guys don't get enough credit. Imagine turning around under gun and artillery fire to go back and drop off a boat load of corpses so you can get a new batch of troops and try again. Here's to you, landing craft driver guys.
The USS Texas flooding itself to get more range for the artillery assault on Ponte do Hoc, and when that was over going around the world to be there at Iwo and Okinawa.
Holy shit imagine if Hitler had listened to Rommel about the defenses and let him put a Panzer division 10 miles away.
The scope of it is just mind boggling. Eisenhower moved a quarter million men, 7,000 boats, and 12,000 aircraft across the Channel in one night. I know some of yall are in logistics and supply chain. He did all of that without sending a single email.
The paper mache tanks and stuff that we built elsewhere to throw the Nazis off is so LOL.
Over the past few weeks, I've been watching Band of Brothers with my oldest son for the first time. Didn't intend to finish it the night before D-Day, but that's how it worked out.
Well, I let my youngest watch the last episode with us where they're showing final interviews with the men who were still living. Of course, my son had a million questions about D-Day, the war and the men. Long story short, when I go to tuck him in last night I overhear him praying for the men who fought and for those who died.
Pretty cool Dad moment.
Make him a disciple who shares the story because schools sure as hell are barely teaching what it took to keep the world free.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Jun 06, 2024, 08:55 AMMake him a disciple who shares the story because schools sure as hell are barely teaching what it took to keep the world free.
We don't homeschool. My kids go to public school, but my wife was a teacher who now works from home. She's very good about having the boys supplement and continue their education through the summer. This may be a good opportunity for them to learn about the war in the depth that it deserves.
Not D Day but a WW II story I've never heard and I've heard a lot. I can't believe a movie hasn't been made. You'll get dusty reading it.
https://www.realclearhistory.com/articles/2024/06/06/judy_of_sussex_a_pointer_bred_for_heroism_1036216.html
If you haven't watched any of this guys videos, you should probably start. Tons of great history with an entertaining presentation.
You have to go to the WWII museum in Nola. Plan to be there a whole day.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jun 06, 2024, 10:14 AMYou have to go to the WWII museum in Nola. Plan to be there a whole day.
But make sure you leave well before dark.
Not on Magazine Street. Just go eat at Peche across the street.
Does Zelensky just refuse to wear a gd suit or a tie? I mean it's like he has one outfit and refuses to dress up for any occasion. Fuck him
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 06, 2024, 10:20 AMDoes Zelensky just refuse to wear a gd suit or a tie? I mean it's like he has one outfit and refuses to dress up for any occasion. Fuck him
Was Zelenskyy at the D Day ceremony?
Was he there representing the Nazis? :D
Quote from: hit_that_line on Jun 06, 2024, 10:14 AMYou have to go to the WWII museum in Nola. Plan to be there a whole day.
This.
It's very good. Props set up in different rooms depicting different theaters of operation. Visual footage of said battles etc. with audio of actual men telling their stories to kinda go along with the videos.
There aint no men anymore. Crazy the things they did and went through.
Quote from: Spiderham on Jun 06, 2024, 10:22 AMWas Zelenskyy at the D Day ceremony?
Was he there representing the Nazis? :D
He was there with Joe to trash the Russians and brag about 350,000 Russian casualties in the Ukraine. You know, the Russians, our allies during WW II.
It's kind of crazy. Even during the Cold War we would send contingents a lot of years to march in their Victory Day Parade. But now, Putin is Hitler.
Really disrespectful to everyone there to turn this event into politics.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 06, 2024, 10:30 AMHe was there with Joe to trash the Russians and brag about 350,000 Russian casualties in the Ukraine. You know, the Russians, our allies during WW II.
It's kind of crazy. Even during the Cold War we would send contingents a lot of years to march in their Victory Day Parade. But now, Putin is Hitler.
Really disrespectful to everyone there to turn this event into politics.
I thought Trump was Hitler. Can you have more than 1 Hitler at the same time?
Quote from: Hogfan58 on Jun 06, 2024, 10:47 AMI thought Trump was Hitler. Can you have more than 1 Hitler at the same time?
Putin is Hitler. Trump is SuperHitler, even though he's Putin's puppet. They're different. Elmo doesn't work with his hand up his own ass; someone else has to have a hand up there.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 06, 2024, 10:30 AMReally disrespectful to everyone there to turn this event into politics.
Emotional bullshit is all the entire democrat party has. They're just not capable of simply celebrating someone else's achievements. Like I said elsewhere, the remaining veterans of that great day (and everyone who took part in the great undertaking of liberating Europe) deserved better.
Quote from: RedRiverHog on Jun 06, 2024, 10:22 AMThis.
It's very good. Props set up in different rooms depicting different theaters of operation. Visual footage of said battles etc. with audio of actual men telling their stories to kinda go along with the videos.
There aint no men anymore. Crazy the things they did and went through.
Took my son a few years back and he loved every minute of it, especially the theater presentation. Worth the trip if you're down there.
Quote from: Cerdo on Jun 06, 2024, 08:38 AMThe paper mache tanks and stuff that we built elsewhere to throw the Nazis off is so LOL.
The dummies (I forget what they called them) with parachutes that they dropped from planes to an area opposite of where we actually attacked was pretty brilliant as well.
Quote from: TC on Jun 06, 2024, 11:39 AMThe dummies (I forget what they called them) with parachutes that they dropped from planes to an area opposite of where we actually attacked was pretty brilliant as well.
paratroopers 🙄
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 06, 2024, 12:03 PMparatroopers 🙄
Yeah how could I have forgotten that. ::)
No dummy, real dummies. I looked it up and they called them Ruperts.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/object-of-intrigue-the-dummy-paratroopers-of-wwii
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 06, 2024, 12:03 PMparatroopers 🙄
Joe was trying to recreate the ordeal but misheard and thought they said ParaPoopers
I had the pleasure and privilege of taking care of a man who was in his late 90s by the time I met him around 10+ years ago. He made the landing at Normandy. Further in land in France at some point he ran into his father who was a first sergeant of a different company. He told me his dad had been a World War I veteran as well and signed back up. They hadn't seen each other in some time and neither knew the other was there but just randomly ran into each other. He told me a lot of other details that I wish I'd written down at the time because I, of course, don't remember it all now. Anyway, the man I knew continued on fighting in the hedge rows where he eventually lost one of his eyes. I asked him how that happened and he told me threw a grenade toward a German in a ditch and he said "I don't think he liked that very much because when I stuck my head up to see if I got him he shot me in the eye". He then had to lay in the ditch for 24 hours before they fought their way forward enough to get him out. He then got evacuated to an aid station and his war was over and sent home. His dad made it home too but of course died many years before I met this man.
A good watch on one of the most pivotal figures behind D-Day. Without Garbo, it likely doesn't even happen. He was also a big reason Rommel and many of his senior officers were not at their post (that and the bad weather which had many convinced that wouldn't be the day the allies came knocking)
In 1984 Ronald Reagan spoke in Normandy on the 40th anniversary of D-Day. He stated: "These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end the war."
Reagan would later say:
"It was a very moving experience. They were what General Marshall called 'our secret weapon. The best damn kids in the world.' Where do we find such men? The answer came almost as quickly as I'd asked the question. Where we've always found them in this country. On the farms, in the shops, the stores and the offices. They just are the product of the freest society the world has ever known."
How do we find such men?
That's a real question: How was the D-Day generation raised? Because that has a lot to do with the kind of men that were produced in the Greatest Generation.
The answer is:
They were raised in church. Church membership in 1937 was at 73%. Ninety-six percent of Americans, according to Gallup, said they believed in God in 1944. A grand total of 4% of all households in the United States were single-parent families in 1940.
Today the single-motherhood rate is 41%, 10 times the single-motherhood rate in 1937. Only 47% of Americans, a minority of Americans, are members of churches today.
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Do you have to ruin every thread? Good grief.
Quote from: TC on Jun 06, 2024, 11:39 AMThe dummies (I forget what they called them) with parachutes that they dropped from planes to an area opposite of where we actually attacked was pretty brilliant as well.
Aggies. They were called Aggies. More accurately, the Corps of Cadets.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jun 07, 2024, 07:47 AMDo you have to ruin every thread? Good grief.
Oh, please. Quit being an asshat. We were already far afield talking about all kinds of other stuff. I waited until the thread was already off the rails.
And, by the way, it's accurate.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 07, 2024, 08:47 AMAnd, by the way, it's accurate.
At least you're finally admitting it. Got to keep that race pure.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Jun 07, 2024, 09:31 AMAt least you're finally admitting it. Got to keep that race pure.
Lol...I was more focused on the transexual part. But, you keep on being a white knight.
Yeah, that mulatto part really stands out there. Reminds me of that Maya Angelou quote about when someone shows you who they are, you should believe them.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 07, 2024, 10:42 AMYeah, that mulatto part really stands out there. Reminds me of that Maya Angelou quote about when someone shows you who they are, you should believe them.
Believe what you want. I'm beyond caring.
Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Jun 07, 2024, 10:55 AMBelieve what you want. I'm beyond caring.
oh come on you care you big ole racist
Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 07, 2024, 11:23 AMoh come on you care you big ole racist
Okay, yeah whatever. Sure. You got me.
I think everyone is a little bit racist. Or maybe biased would be a better term. It's just some are more racist/biased (and obvious about it) than others. Then you have the grade A bigots. Never met the guy, but based on many of his posts, Boar (or at least his online persona) seems to fall somewhere on the more extreme end of the spectrum. Not that he cares, of course.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 07, 2024, 11:48 AMI think everyone is a little bit racist. Or maybe biased would be a better term. It's just some are more racist/biased (and obvious about it) than others. Then you have the grade A bigots. Never met the guy, but based on many of his posts, Boar (or at least his online persona) seems to fall somewhere on the more extreme end of the spectrum. Not that he cares, of course.
who knew he was on the spectrum.
Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Jun 07, 2024, 11:48 AMI think everyone is a little bit racist. Or maybe biased would be a better term. It's just some are more racist/biased (and obvious about it) than others. Then you have the grade A bigots. Never met the guy, but based on many of his posts, Boar (or at least his online persona) seems to fall somewhere on the more extreme end of the spectrum. Not that he cares, of course.
Let me ask you this. Do you think the meme is inaccurate? If we could time travel and ask that guy then, and show him now, would he express something similar? Give an honest opinion.
Biden being Biden. Checkout the comment where Johnny Carson makes fun of him back in the day.
https://x.com/simonateba/status/1799132294013468965?t=zLqswgHU_uzAANQTu9h0sA&s=19 (https://x.com/simonateba/status/1799132294013468965?t=zLqswgHU_uzAANQTu9h0sA&s=19)
Quote from: HogOfWar on Jun 07, 2024, 01:14 PMBiden being Biden. Checkout the comment where Johnny Carson makes fun of him back in the day.
https://x.com/simonateba/status/1799132294013468965?t=zLqswgHU_uzAANQTu9h0sA&s=19 (https://x.com/simonateba/status/1799132294013468965?t=zLqswgHU_uzAANQTu9h0sA&s=19)
I imagine his stupid speechwriters are using chat GPT