Jaylen Green is not SEC caliber.
Quote from: woodhog14 on Sep 28, 2024, 05:57 PMJaylen Green is not SEC caliber.
Of course he isn't... He's a DE for JMU.
We need a lot more than that.
Doesn't matter who we hire if we don't get NIL commitments from big time Arkansas money men.
we didn't need a project qb who was going to have to learn the basics like pocket awareness, throwing a receiver open, etc.
there was a book on the guy but the oc said that's the one he wanted.
As long as we don't consult the self-proclaimed football guru, HTL. Dude was a KJ dickrider till the very end.
You misspelled Oline and Head coach.
Fuck it. Clean house.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Sep 28, 2024, 06:39 PMYou misspelled Oline and Head coach.
Throw in the AD for good measure. Don't want to shirt the Football Gods a good meal.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Sep 28, 2024, 06:47 PMThrow in the AD for good measure. Don't want to shirt the Football Gods a good meal.
Let's let our PTB hire a new AD to hire a football coach. What's the worst that could happen...
Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 28, 2024, 06:50 PMLet's let our PTB hire a new AD to hire a football coach. What's the worst that could happen...
I've wanted Hunter gone for years, but while I have zero faith in him hiring a good football coach, I sure as hell trust him more than our PTB.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2024, 06:28 PMwe didn't need a project qb who was going to have to learn the basics like pocket awareness, throwing a receiver open, etc.
there was a book on the guy but the oc said that's the one he wanted.
This.
Green has all the physical tools, but this playground football isn't working. He's thrown as many picks as TDs and nearly as that amount of fumbles lost.
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 28, 2024, 06:28 PMthere was a book on the guy but the oc said that's the one he wanted.
That's why I don't understand people not blaming Bobby more.
Green has a ton of issues and limitations, but Petrino is the one who targeted him, bet the farm on him, and went all out to land him.
Quote from: Feral on Sep 28, 2024, 07:18 PMThat's why I don't understand people not blaming Bobby more.
Green has a ton of issues and limitations, but Petrino is the one who targeted him, bet the farm on him, and went all out to land him.
I'm gonna ask this because I don't know...what/who were our other options?
I didn't see a lot of 5* qb's beating our doors down to play for an O-line that might get them crippled, for $11,265.25 per year plus catfish hole coupons.
Quote from: TC on Sep 28, 2024, 06:35 PMAs long as we don't consult the self-proclaimed football guru, HTL. Dude was a KJ dickrider till the very end.
Laughable.
if pittman and petrino are to be believed, he was the only qb we even approached out of the portal, so the 'who else was there' doesn't even apply. it's not like we were turned down by others.
Quote from: HogOfWar on Sep 28, 2024, 06:47 PMThrow in the AD for good measure. Don't want to shirt the Football Gods a good meal.
I don't think it's a good look for HY when Mizzou and Ole Miss are in exponentially better positions than we are, when he could have hired either of their coaches.
Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 28, 2024, 08:41 PMI don't think it's a good look for HY when Mizzou and Ole Miss are in exponentially better positions than we are, when he could have hired either of their coaches.
They both turned us down. Arkansas is just a low tier clown program.
Incorrect - both passed on Arkansas. The best Hunter could do was hire Pittman and give him a big raise and extension when it wasn't warranted. He is also way behind both schools in NIL. He has been a complete failure as AD.
I love how everyone thinks coaches turn us down when we won't actively peruse any of them. Giving Mike Leach a quick hello interview in New York City is laughable. At this point we probably should have taken Prime Time. We talked to him twice.
Atkansas stands around the punch bowl at dances waiting to be asked by a pretty girl.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Sep 28, 2024, 07:42 PMLaughable.
Just say you don't know football, troll. You argued with everyone who told you KJ's accuracy was trash.
I can see why Petrino thought of Green as an intriguing player worth pursuing. Also I think maybe they were balancing a situation of trying to hold the two young QBs on the roster giving them a "shot" while bringing in a guy that's had some career starts under his belt. Also I don't think the transfer crop was all that great. I'm sure they'll be a number of examples of where I'm wrong.
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/top/football/2024/?position=qb
Out of that list a think Grayson McCall could have been an interesting choice to take a run at. We weren't competing for a guy like Cam Ward who's evidently getting nearly 2 million in NIL.
Petrino is chasing that next Lamar Jackson when he should probably looking for the Brandon Allen's of the world.
Quote from: TC on Sep 28, 2024, 09:31 PMJust say you don't know football, troll. You argued with everyone who told you KJ's accuracy was trash.
Yeah, I'm sure you know football ::)
Bobby handpicked Green. Get over it. Your savior is beyond washed.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Sep 28, 2024, 09:55 PMYeah, I'm sure you know football ::)
Bobby handpicked Green. Get over it. Your savior is beyond washed.
How many false starts did Petrino commit again? Turnovers?
But KJ was all world huh, clown.
Just say you don't know football.
I think Bobby has been chasing Lamar Jackson since he left for the NFL. It cost him his job at UL chasing that rainbow.
Green is his next attempt at replicating LJ and it's not happening here either.
Quote from: TC on Sep 28, 2024, 10:17 PMHow many false starts did Petrino commit again? Turnovers?
But KJ was all world huh, clown.
Just say you don't know football.
Link to where I ever said he was all world? Just another lie from you.
Petrino is beyond washed. Briles offense was better than this shit.
Quote from: bigpig on Sep 28, 2024, 11:11 PMI think Bobby has been chasing Lamar Jackson since he left for the NFL. It cost him his job at UL chasing that rainbow.
Green is his next attempt at replicating LJ and it's not happening here either.
Sadly, I'm afraid you have a real point here. I get the appeal of Green. He has the physical tools to be great and very difficult to stop. Sadly, he just doesn't have the mind for it. I'm afraid Petrino won't give up that ghost, though.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Sep 29, 2024, 07:52 AMLink to where I ever said he was all world? Just another lie from you.
Petrino is beyond washed. Briles offense was better than this shit.
Now you're really opening up; You miss the Briles and KJ days. What a clown.
Remember how mad you'd get, and how you'd argue with people who criticized your boy KJ for his trash accuracy. You rode with KJ till the end.
Football guru indeed!!
Quote from: TC on Sep 29, 2024, 11:40 AMNow you're really opening up; You miss the Briles and KJ days. What a clown.
Remember how mad you'd get, and how you'd argue with people who criticized your boy KJ for his trash accuracy. You rode with KJ till the end.
Football guru indeed!!
Not just football. I've forgotten more about any of the big three sports than you'll know in ten lifetimes.
Even this year, Kj has a higher rating than Petrino's handpicked QB. Wake me up when Green has a season that approaches anywhere near KJ's 2021 or 2022 lol. I don't miss anything. Just stating a fact that the offense was significantly better then.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Sep 29, 2024, 12:04 PMNot just football. I've forgotten more about any of the big three sports than you'll know in ten lifetimes.
Even this year, Kj has a higher rating than Petrino's handpicked QB. Wake me up when Green has a season that approaches anywhere near KJ's 2021 or 2022 lol. I don't miss anything. Just stating a fact that the offense was significantly better then.
Defending KJ STILL when he threw 2 picks against that shitty Colorado D. Shameful.
Stop. Just say you don't know ball.
I've been aggravated at the play calling what little I've watched. We need to run more on first and second downI know he's had plays dialed up that would have worked and Green is either running for his life or just can't execute the throw. He's great at the longer developing routes where someone breaks open, but can't throw for shit on quick slants or find the hot receiver. The book will be to put a spy on him and let our line force him to flush. That guy they had on him yesterday was fast as hell.
I'd try Singleton and do it against Tennessee. He certainly considers himself ready if reading some of the mom's quotes from last year is any indication. If he's not the future, try that freshman next. They both showed against UAPB that they can at least throw the slant and out routes. I was worried about Green not completing very many of those passes. Those are the only passes that will make the spy have to play pass and I don't think he can throw them.
I can see why Green was benched at times, while at Boise State. He'll dazzle you with the spectacular play but consistently frustrate you with the routine play. He doesn't process fast enough for this level. Of course our soft ass oline isn't helping matters.
Bottom line, averaging 2 turnovers a game is going to lead to a lot of wins, especially when we're already at a talent disadvantage.
We are definitely not at a talent disadvantage. We should be 5-0 based on the talent.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2024, 04:42 PMWe are definitely not at a talent disadvantage. We should be 5-0 based on the talent.
This is a true statement.
When Pittman chose to punt I knew the game and any support for him I had were both gone.
It was not the right call and showed once again he has no feel for the game.
A&M's offense had found their groove and them scoring again was a certainty.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2024, 08:31 PMWhen Pittman chose to punt I knew the game and any support for him I had were both gone.
It was not the right call and showed once again he has no feel for the game.
A&M's offense had found their groove and them scoring again was a certainty.
their offense had hit a big pass where we missed a tackle and a 10 yard drive as a result of the fumble. not sure i'd say their offense was clicking before their last drive.
I'm not sure what QB would succeed in our offense. They had men in our backfield every single play in the first half it seemed. If Green isn't running for his life 1 second after the snap a little more often, he might not be too bad.
Just blitz us. We don't pick it up, ever. I felt like we must have been missing a player on offense, because we were getting dominated at the LOS.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 29, 2024, 04:42 PMWe are definitely not at a talent disadvantage. We should be 5-0 based on the talent.
Are we not counting the OL?
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2024, 08:45 PMtheir offense had hit a big pass where we missed a tackle and a 10 yard drive as a result of the fumble. not sure i'd say their offense was clicking before their last drive.
They rolled over our defense on their way to the lead taking touchdown. They clearly had momentum and our D was tired.
Quote from: Ray Zorback on Sep 29, 2024, 09:25 PMAre we not counting the OL?
Quote from: vegashog on Sep 29, 2024, 09:42 PMor the wr?
After watching the first 5 games you think our talent isn't up to par with who we have played so far?
Again, we should be 5-0.
We can agree to disagree.
Quote from: TC on Sep 29, 2024, 12:37 PMDefending KJ STILL when he threw 2 picks against that shitty Colorado D. Shameful.
Stop. Just say you don't know ball.
He also lost a fumble, so the same amount of turnovers as Green.