Football bye week, so here we go. Your #16 Arkansas Razorbacks take on the #8 Baylor Bears in an old SWC matchup. Game is at 6:30 on ESPN. And now:
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Heading down. I think Dirk and Apork are going. Any other woopigers attending? We'll be in sec 120 row M.
We are 104 Row A
Dirk, if you're there text me. We're eating at Black Tap before the game.
Now seeing the game is on ESPNU.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 09, 2024, 04:50 PMNow seeing the game is on ESPNU.
That's what I have had it as all week. Was it ever somewhere else?
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 09, 2024, 04:59 PMThat's what I have had it as all week. Was it ever somewhere else?
When I googled the schedule, it showed ESPN. Or maybe I was cross eyed at the time.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 09, 2024, 05:05 PMWhen I googled the schedule, it showed ESPN. Or maybe I was cross eyed at the time.
Yeah maybe check the ole eyes. ESPN will be football on Saturday night as long as there are games. It's TN-Moo U tonight.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 09, 2024, 05:21 PMYeah maybe check the ole eyes. ESPN will be football on Saturday night as long as there are games. It's TN-Moo U tonight.
Well, at 73, the old eyes aren't what they used to be. ;D
In
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 09, 2024, 05:31 PMWell, at 73, the old eyes aren't what they used to be. ;D
I thought I was old.
We are weak under the basket. Leave way to many guys wide open underneath.
Thiero with two great blocks already. That last one was near the top of the backboard
I find Jimmy Dykes so annoying. And not because of the banjo comments. I know he's a true Razorback. He's just an annoying commentator.
4 steps with no shot
Cal needs to understand he has taken over a program that never, ever, ever hits a 3 in the first 10-12 minutes of a game. And game plan accordingly.
The rim hates us.
It's personal.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 09, 2024, 06:48 PMCal needs to understand he has taken over a program that never, ever, ever hits a 3 in the first 10-12 minutes of a game. And game plan accordingly.
And yet, that is about all we have shot.
Maybe someone should tell them we have to score points in order to win.
That cheerleader had a weird tan
How are we so allergic to scoring early in games? Across so many coaches? For the last 20-25 years?
0-8 from three.
Can't shoot for shit. Same story every year.
More of those close shots please
These refs... these are not my kind of refs.
We look fucking awful.
We are being manhandled at the guard position.
The 3s Wednesday looked good, they just wouldn't fall. Tonight you can see where every single one is a brick as soon as it leaves the hand.
Thiero with the uncalled travel
Richmond with the throwdown
We look the same as the last few years. Can't shoot. Johnell needs to earn his money.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 09, 2024, 07:00 PMWe look fucking awful.
If HTL is posting, it's going to be negative.
Thiero from downtown!
Quote from: Doc Hogaday on Nov 09, 2024, 07:02 PMThe 3s Wednesday looked good, they just wouldn't fall. Tonight you can see where every single one is a brick as soon as it leaves the hand.
We seem to be playing outside the arc and throw up a three every time. Do we not have an inside game?
Somebody drive and create a shot, or draw a defender and make the pass
How is that not a player control foul on Baylor?
Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 09, 2024, 07:05 PMIf HTL is posting, it's going to be negative.
To be fair, though, there is a not a lot of positive out there.
Boogie!
What a run, the press and trap is working. Good call cal. Down 2.
The full court pressure is a great move by Cal.
We look good running it too. More of that because this team excels on chaos.
Come on aidoo
My god that was impressive by edgecomb
2 steps forward. 3 steps back, down 8 again
Not sure what to think. I do know the opening exhibition games have been worthless the last two years.
too timid on offense.
drive on the zone, might get your shit pushed but more than likely you get fouled. shooting 36% from the floor, 16% from three, can't get much worse.
The roster construction is a head scratcher so far. Can't win with this level of shooting. Only three true guards.
We've missed some very easy shots. If they start falling, we'll be okay.
Jimmy Dykes looks like he had his eyelids done. That face is tighter than a duck's asshole.
Frustrating game so far. We have a shit ton of athleticism. Nice run to tie it up.
Thiero is the dude.
We came out on business in the 2nd. Let's go Hogs!
It does seem like we don't have a ton of shooters but we have some dog in us.
They don't give up. It's one of those games where we get close or tie it up and they immediately jump out to a 5 or 6 point lead again.
Brazile is getting manhandled
Brazile needs to be on the women's team.
Baylor can't fucking miss right now and we can't get over the hump. 41% from three, over 50% overall.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 09, 2024, 07:48 PMNice run to tie it up.
Scott Drew called TO and it's been all Bears since then.
We actually look like a typical Calipari team, a lot of talent but no team play or tightness in early season games.
Slowly chipping away. A score there would have been huge. Baylor is all out of sync. And of course they go down to score to get back up 5.
where did Thiero transfer from?
Can get close
But can't get over the top
Quote from: bigpig on Nov 09, 2024, 08:24 PMCan get close
But can't get over the top
All game man. We haven't had the lead once.
Big Z seem more like big V(anover)
Davis is not a good shooter.
Boogie could pass up a shot every now and then.
The problem is you can't fix bad shooting.
Pro tip: let's not schedule any exhibition games against #1 teams at BWA arena any more.
Or win them.
Fland reminds me of Nick Smith. If Nick Smith had been healthy and hit some shots.
They weren't that good. And we are worse. "Big Z" more like "Big fucking pussy" doesn't belong or fit on this team. I hope I am wrong and he figures something out. But right now he is going to be a non-factor in conference play. Aidoo needs to get healthy or we are fucked.
And to all of the folks who have been talking about great on-ball D: that doesn't mean a damn thing when you are giving up wide open cuts to the basket or a dish for a 3 w/ no one w/ in 7-8 feet.
I can see the talent. We are going to get there this year. Once our shots start falling we are going to be really good.
we're not cohesive on either end of the floor. that's what happens when you have a bunch of guys that haven't played together when it counts. cal warned us not to count non hatched chickens.
it's early and that was a top 10 team on the road.
Well at least the Hogs still managed to disappoint, even on the bye week. :leo:
I'm probably a little more irritated at that game than I should be. The talent is there, we just clearly aren't comfortable as a team yet. Losing to a team that just loss by 40 really sucks, but I guess I can't expect anything less from Arkansas.
I do think we get it together, though. Big Z and Brazile were disappointments. Combine their stats and it's still not a double double.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 09, 2024, 08:32 PMDavis is not a good shooter.
He's a very good shooter. He's been out with a wrist injury most of fall camp. He shot 41% on 3's last year.
Quote from: Natty_Ice on Nov 09, 2024, 08:43 PMWell at least the Hogs still managed to disappoint, even on the bye week. :leo:
Looks like we aren't a basketball school.
Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 09, 2024, 08:40 PMI can see the talent. We are going to get there this year. Once our shots start falling we are going to be really good.
This is where I am.
We're on to baseball.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 09, 2024, 08:33 PMThe problem is you can't fix bad shooting.
Poor shooting is the easiest fix in basketball. This team will get better shooting the basketball. Davis is not 100%. He fell in the 2nd half and immediately grabbed his wrist. It's still bothering him quite a bit.
We lost a neutral site game to a top 15:team by 5pts on a night we played poorly. Give me that over playing great and losing by 5. This team will be much better in February than they are right now.
Should we call this game a spirit win or a moral victory?
Our fans outnumbered theirs substantially, we were definitely louder.
Not having our band and cheerleaders when they had theirs sucked, definitely impacted our crowd's input in the game.
We couldn't hit shit from 3, that was the difference in the game. Davis is a better 3 point shooter than this, he needs to come alive.
Thiero was our best player vs TCU and again tonight, he never takes a second off.
Brazile and Z got pushed around and Aidoo clearly isn't healthy yet, we really need him.
We have 5 new starters and only on returning player, I didn't expect things to flow yet. I just hope they do at some point.
I think the shooting will come around but we aren't physical enough inside. Not to mention we only have 3 bigs. That will bite us in the ass.
i don't think brazile is built to play inside no matter how much cal wants him to. he's a stretch 4. i'm beginning to think z is the same way.
expected a little more from knox. he was a big scorer in high school and the all star games.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 09, 2024, 10:15 PMI think the shooting will come around but we aren't physical enough inside. Not to mention we only have 3 bigs. That will bite us in the ass.
Aidoo will make a difference inside when he can play 25-30 mins. The guy was first team all SEC last year. Mainly due to his defense.
Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Nov 09, 2024, 08:52 PMHe's a very good shooter. He's been out with a wrist injury most of fall camp. He shot 41% on 3's last year.
I understand his stats. And I understand his injury.
I also understand he hasn't pissed a drop so far as a Hog.
I believe he will be fine.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 09, 2024, 10:27 PMAidoo will make a difference inside when he can play 25-30 mins. The guy was first team all SEC last year. Mainly due to his defense.
Agree, but we have to get 25-30 from him every night with Z backing him up.
Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 09, 2024, 10:42 PMAgree, but we have to get 25-30 from him every night with Z backing him up.
He's definitely on a mins restriction. We needed more mins with the Aidoo/Thierro combo.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 09, 2024, 06:46 PMI find Jimmy Dykes so annoying. And not because of the banjo comments. I know he's a true Razorback. He's just an annoying commentator.
I just watched the game. Not surprising, but he was in postseason annoyance form.
Here's a sampling:
Scott Drew's game plan is to win this game.
Arkansas needs to be confident in the muddy parts of the game.
Arkansas hasn't allowed 70 points "all season."
You gotta be comfortable with mud in your blood.
That was almost stripped and ripped to the other end.
The corner was naked.
This game feels good right now.
Winners win. Competitors compete.As for the game, it was like a late March battle of wills, just without the cohesiveness or polish. We had too many lapses on defense and just got too far behind early. We spent our energy tying it early in the second and they were well-coached as usual.
I'm encouraged.
Muss's (good) teams didn't hit their stride until the first of the year. I'm not worried, yet.
Like Cal's Kentucky teams, we will live or die by the three. Tonight, we died.
https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/1855596277108490705?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 10, 2024, 09:14 AMLike Cal's Kentucky teams, we will live or die by the three. Tonight, we died.
We only took 20 3's out of 58 shots. We went 3-8 in the second half.
For reference KY shot 36 yesterday
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 10:47 AMWe only took 20 3's out of 58 shots.
That seems like a lot doesn't it?
At least it does when we're not hitting them.
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Lost by 5 to the #8 team in The country in the second game of the season after whipping Kansas' ass in a preseason game.
Yeah, let's fucking define the entire team, coaching and season right now.
Fuck that guy.
They need something to get some engagement, but it still a massive overreaction. We looked way better in the second half, and we still don't have Davis or Aidoo healthy. That's literally all we're missing. Hitting the panic button now is ridiculous.
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 10, 2024, 11:00 AMThat seems like a lot doesn't it?
At least it does when we're not hitting them.
20 3pt attempts per game ranks 282 in the country theough 2 games. Utah is first at 44 attempts per game.
KY led the country in 3pt% last year. They went cold and lost the first game. I'd rather have a team than can make 3's at a decent clip, can get to the rin, and can defend their ass off. You better be able to defend when you get to the tourney. Go look up Cal's history when he has a top 30 decense.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 10, 2024, 11:18 AMThey need something to get some engagement, but it still a massive overreaction. We looked way better in the second half, and we still don't have Davis or Aidoo healthy. That's literally all we're missing. Hitting the panic button now is ridiculous.
Absolutely it is. This team has aa good of talent as anyone. Let's see how this season plays out.
Also, I love Richmond. Kid is gonna be really good.
as a whole, the national media was never cool with cal walking away from kentucky and taking the arkansas job, especially with how quick it happened. it almost seemed like an insult to them.
Cal got pissed at Z a couple of times and yanked his ass. He seems to get lost on defensive switches sometimes.
Z is gonna struggle with physical bigs. Aidoo will be be more physical. We defended the PnR much better last night. I don't recall us getting beat once on it.
It is a work in progress.
The national guys have gotta say something, there is not a lot happening and cal is a headline guy.
I would like to see boogie stop shooting so much (like cal said after the forest game - it is not like his barely missing) it is like watching devo jack shots. Of course, cal also has the ability to do something about it.
Let's see what happens in sec play.
I'd we want to over react then Bama is in trouble for barely beating a-state
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 11:42 AM20 3pt attempts per game ranks 282 in the country theough 2 games. Utah is first at 44 attempts per game.
KY led the country in 3pt% last year. They went cold and lost the first game. I'd rather have a team than can make 3's at a decent clip, can get to the rin, and can defend their ass off. You better be able to defend when you get to the tourney. Go look up Cal's history when he has a top 30 decense.
Attemptimg threes and hitting threes are two different things. I don't care if you shoot 100 of them as long as you are hitting them. And like I said last night, we seem to be weak under the basket. The last two games, opposing players have been left wide open underneath. And I am not sold on Z yet. But, it is early.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 10, 2024, 12:40 PMAttemptimg threes and hitting threes are two different things. I don't care if you shoot 100 of them as long as you are hitting them. And like I said last night, we seem to be weak under the basket. The last two games, opposing players have been left wide open underneath. And I am not sold on Z yet. But, it is early.
My point was that we are not living and dying by the 3. We shoot very few conpared to most teams. This team can shoot 35% from 3.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 12:50 PMMy point was that we are not living and dying by the 3. We shoot very few conpared to most teams. This team can shoot 35% from 3.
Mt point was that most of Cal's teams at KY lived and died from the three point line. Most times, they made the tourney and lost early because they went cold from there. I just hope we can do something besides shoot threes from way above the arc. I think we can,and like I said, it is early. And I didn't watch the second half last night but early in the game, it seemed we dribbled around the arc and ended up throwing up a brick three.
Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 10, 2024, 12:53 PMMt point was that most of Cal's teams at KY lived and died from the three point line. Most times, they made the tourney and lost early because they went cold from there. I just hope we can do something besides shoot threes from way above the arc. I think we can,and like I said, it is early. And I didn't watch the second half last night but early in the game, it seemed we dribbled around the arc and ended up throwing up a brick three.
Baylor played a zone. We moved the ball well against the zone and got good looks. Just didn't knock them down. We also drove against the zone several times to get shots inside.
Cal's team last year shot a lot of 3s because they shot it well. They led the country in 3pt%. His really good teams did not shoot a ton of 3s but defended really well. This team is built more like those teams.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 01:12 PMBaylor played a zone. We moved the ball well against the zone and got good looks. Just didn't knock them down. We also drove against the zone several times to get shots inside.
Cal's team last year shot a lot of 3s because they shot it well. They led the country in 3pt%. His really good teams did not shoot a ton of 3s but defended really well. This team is built more like those teams.
Yeah, play defense and rebound/takeaways leading to quick transition points will be critical for this team. We saw that in spurts last night, they just need to all fully buy in.
Davis shooting percentage should improve once healed. But can someone point to any examples of team percentage increasing dramatically? Wagner shot 29% from 3 last year. Fland is not a shooter.
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 10, 2024, 02:05 PMDavis shooting percentage should improve once healed. But can someone point to any examples of team percentage increasing dramatically? Wagner shot 29% from 3 last year. Fland is not a shooter.
Find examples? They've played two games.
Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 10, 2024, 02:13 PMFind examples? They've played two games.
Plus exhibitions were like 25%. Wagner is not a shooter. Fland is not a shooter. Besides Davis, where is this hope that we're going to be able to shoot?
Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 10, 2024, 02:18 PMPlus exhibitions were like 25%. Wagner is not a shooter. Fland is not a shooter. Besides Davis, where is this hope that we're going to be able to shoot?
As posted above, I'm not putting my hope in that.
Fland can be a +35% 3pt shooter. In the 2 practices I attended he probably shot 80% from 3. He's a freshman getting used to the college game. Brazile shot around 37% from 3 if I remember correctly. This team does not have to hit 15 3's a game at 40% to win. They just need to get to around 7 - 8 makes at ~35%.
Knox is another freshman that has the shot to help. It will take him a little time.
Right now, this team just needs a game where they shoot it well to gain confidence. The mental part of shooting is more important than people realize.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 03:08 PMFland can be a +35% 3pt shooter. In the 2 practices I attended he probably shot 80% from 3. He's a freshman getting used to the college game. Brazile shot around 37% from 3 if I remember correctly. This team does not have to hit 15 3's a game at 40% to win. They just need to get to around 7 - 8 makes at ~35%.
Knox is another freshman that has the shot to help. It will take him a little time.
Right now, this team just needs a game where they shoot it well to gain confidence. The mental part of shooting is more important than people realize.
You just don't know ball like some people.
I guess not. I do have eligibility left if we need a shooter.
Also, we have quicky become public enemy #1.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1855637798721851637?t=XsQbUGODhi4-cUu1FoJrvg&s=19 (https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1855637798721851637?t=XsQbUGODhi4-cUu1FoJrvg&s=19)
like i said, how dare he leave blue blood kentucky for someplace like arkansas.
It is truly amazing the number of national media criticizing Cal after the loss last night.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 10, 2024, 03:53 PMIt is truly amazing the number of national media criticizing Cal after the loss last night.
I guess they're also criticizing Sampson for losing at home as the #4 team, right?
Every single Calipari press conference on YouTube is full of miserable Kentucky fans.
The jaded ex girlfriend that can't leave well enough alone is an understatement.
Well have fun with Coach Cope with zero tournament wins.
Of course not and Houston lost in their own backyard. We will be under a microscope like no other.
Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 10, 2024, 04:01 PMEvery single Calipari press conference on YouTube is full of miserable Kentucky fans.
The jaded ex girlfriend that can't leave well enough alone is an understatement.
Well have fun with Coach Cope with zero tournament wins.
Reddit, Twitter, Instagram. All are bombarded with Kentucky fans. I'm not sure I've ever seen a fanbase obsess over someone they wanted gone so badly. I know he doesn't pay attention to social media but I do have a feeling he'll want to beat Kentucky by 100 when we play them.
Fuck it. Let's win the whole God damn thing.
Quote from: GeoHogsGeo on Nov 10, 2024, 04:42 PMFuck it. Let's win the whole God damn thing.
What he said. I'm just going to sit tight and see what happens.
Not unlike Petrino leaving Atlanta. The media roasted not only Bobby, but Arkansas for hiring him. Calipari is no different.
I like being the heel. Bring it bitches.
Quote from: flash23 on Nov 10, 2024, 04:32 PMI'm not sure I've ever seen a fanbase obsess over someone they wanted gone so badly.
To be fair, Arkansas fans were like that with Nutt and Ole Miss.
To be fair, one is a HOF coach that won a NC at the former school along with multiple FF appearances, and the other is an asshat.
Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 12, 2024, 08:39 AMTo be fair, one is a HOF coach that won a NC at the former school along with multiple FF appearances, and the other is an asshat.
You can put all the caveats you want. I'm just saying, Arkansas fans were obsessed over Nutt when he was dismissed and went to Ole Miss.
Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 12, 2024, 10:40 AMYou can put all the caveats you want. I'm just saying, Arkansas fans were obsessed over Nutt when he was dismissed and went to Ole Miss.
True, but there were factors beyond the on court record in play with Nutt that aren't with Cal and Kentucky.
And Cal has handled any questions about his previous job with class. Nutt and his entourage flipped off fans and spit on our field. One coach left with grace. The other did everything he could to poke his previous employer in the eye.
If Cal shows his ass when we go to Rupp in February it will be a valid comparison.