Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

Started by Texzilla, Dec 02, 2024, 06:17 PM

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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 02:07 PMsane people making well reasoned hires

Surely you spot the flaw in your logic.

animal

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 07, 2024, 02:09 PMSurely you spot the flaw in your logic.
I think you mean not the people who decided to let a female golfer and some other non-football people help lead the search for what led to a clown parachuting into his introduction presser.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

The Whyte Boar


The Whyte Boar


Barton Fink

Quote from: animal on Dec 07, 2024, 02:12 PMI think you mean not the people who decided to let a female golfer and some other non-football people help lead the search for what led to a clown parachuting into his introduction presser.

Or sending the AD a love letter.

Yeah, we are guaranteed to hire a winner...

Doc Hogaday

Pants ironed and back for more

animal

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BASS

Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism


animal

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

HogOfWar

Quote from: animal on Dec 07, 2024, 05:13 PMOnly if he's willing to play TE. :stache:

Surely Greene could see how wide open he would be.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Son of Spam

Finish what? Destroying the program further?
Well, shit...

DrMongoose

Quote from: vegashog on Dec 07, 2024, 01:17 PMthey won 2 games and 0-8 in conference. finished 12th in the sec in total offense. chad morris level.

that line of reasoning is bullshit.

If you beat on state and took the points this year you made money, maybe that is what they did?
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Olhickoryhog

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 12:11 PMOh, I don't know. Maybe 30+ years of history?

All you've done is complain and dodged questions I've asked. So let's try this again...

What are YOUR expectations for the program and what is YOUR solution to get there?

I will disagree we are a 6 win program for 30+ years.  Sure, we were better W/L the last 30 years in the SWC than the first 30 years in the SEC.  Let's look at Conference records since we entered the SEC and exclude our 2 years with an Interim coach (1992: 3-4-1 and 2012: 2-6).  Prior to the bike wreck, we had 7 winning conference seasons (1 year with 7 wins, 4 more with 6 wins, 3 SEC Western Division Championships of the world, and 1 more west division co-championship), we had 8 losing seasons, and 4 .500 seasons (would have been 7-7-5 if Marc Curles was never born).  Even including our 2 interim seasons, we never won fewer than 2 conference games.  No one is going to confuse those results with the 20 year run LSU had with Saban, Les, and O, but that is definitely better than a "6 win program."  Since the bike wreck, we have had 1 winning season (5-3 in 2015 where we lost at home to Toledo and Texas Tech to destroy any momentum.), 1 .500 season, and 10 losing seasons.  We also have had 5 seasons where we won fewer than 2 conference games.  Of our 6 coaches in the SEC, I'd argue 2 were better than Sam, 2 were equal to Sam (although Ford's highs were better than Sam's and his lows were better as well), and 1 far worse than Sam.  Our SEC history would indicate if we fired Sam, worse case scenario, we'd hire someone comparable and best case scenario we'd improve dramatically.

As far as NIL, I've never been able to find any actual numbers but let's assume for the sake of argument that Arkansas is far behind the other SEC schools.  I can only think of 3 reasons for it

1.  We are a small, poor state that can't afford to play the NIL game and that won't change even if we hire the ghost of Vince Lombardi.

2.  Donors (especially the BMD) are upset Yuri has dramatically increased the prices and donation levels over the past few years for premium football tickets, baseball tickets, and (starting next year) basketball tickets.  They have a set amount of money they are willing to spend and all their additional monies are going to the Razorback Foundation because of increased prices.

3.  They believe giving Sam money is the equivalent of setting it on fire.

Bringing back Yuri and Sam will not solve any of these problems.


Lurk

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Barton Fink

Since we've joined the SEC we avg 6 wins a year and thst includes bowl games.

Your point #1 is precisely what I'm saying. We are a poor state. Unless large corporations get involved our the fanbase somehow goes all in on donations, it doesn't really matter who you hire. Nothing has shown that it will happen. Only hearsay.

Barton Fink


The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 05:52 PMSince we've joined the SEC we avg 6 wins a year and thst includes bowl games.

Your point #1 is precisely what I'm saying. We are a poor state. Unless large corporations get involved our the fanbase somehow goes all in on donations, it doesn't really matter who you hire. Nothing has shown that it will happen. Only hearsay.

Why are you so intent upon proving this contention?  You realize don't you that if you are successful in persuading everyone it will not lead to people being satisfied with Pittman? It will instead lead to complete apathy and we'll spend the next 30 years being a three win program like Vanderbilt was.

DirkPiggler

Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

DrMongoose

Quote from: DrMongoose on Dec 07, 2024, 05:29 PMIf you beat on state and took the points this year you made money, maybe that is what they did?

Quote from: DrMongoose on Dec 07, 2024, 05:29 PMIf you beat on state and took the points this year you made money, maybe that is what they did?


I meant bet on state

Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25