Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

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DrMongoose

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 02:14 PMGonna be a rough year for Hunter and Sam.  Check out the replies. lol

https://x.com/HunterYurachek/status/1865425728734441714

Hunter brings it on himself.

Is there another AD who does this for every team on twitter?
What is the point, seems a given that an AD would support that school's athletic teams without having to tweet it for every game.

This performance at the LR touchdown club spoke volumes. Referencing Bret farve in his nil example made no sense - he had little to no national buzz at southern miss. I mean if we are going old school. Use Dan Hampton, lance alworth, Gary Anderson, ron calgani, etc.

Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Olhickoryhog

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 05:52 PMSince we've joined the SEC we avg 6 wins a year and thst includes bowl games.

Your point #1 is precisely what I'm saying. We are a poor state. Unless large corporations get involved our the fanbase somehow goes all in on donations, it doesn't really matter who you hire. Nothing has shown that it will happen. Only hearsay.

Saying we are a 6 win program over the past 30 years is like saying the Chicago Bulls are one of the best run basketball franchises because over the past 35 years, they average one world championship every 5 years.

Surely, you can recognize that we were MUCH better the first 20 years in the SEC than the last 13 and at a minimum with competent coaching we could get back to the level we were at from 1992-2011.  I even backed up my argument with 30 years worth of data. 

As someone that has driven through Mississippi, Louisiana, and central Missouri multiple times, I refuse to believe Arkansas is poorer than those states or programs.  Do you really believe if Pete Carroll wanted to have one last ride before retirement and became our coach next month we wouldn't see a DRAMATIC increase in football NIL? (I obviously believe #3 is the reason for our lack of funds).

Barton Fink

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 06:03 PMWhy are you so intent upon proving this contention?  You realize don't you that if you are successful in persuading everyone it will not lead to people being satisfied with Pittman? It will instead lead to complete apathy and we'll spend the next 30 years being a three win program like Vanderbilt was.

I encourage you to find one example of my saying I'm satisfied with Pittman. I've said we can hire a better coach than SP but if that better coach does not also come along with a great deal more in MIL, things will stay the same.

My only reason for entertaining staying with Pittman is you have 2 coordinators that can win more games with better talent. They can overcome the nuances of SP.

Hell, if he can win 9 games with KB, Odom and KJ Jefferson at QB, it isn't a stretch to say that BP and Twill can win that or more if they had the talent OM, etc have.

You mentioned Moo St will be better next year. You don't believe that is because he's gonna be a better coach next year. You believe that because he's got more money to gwt better talent. Do you think SP has gotten that kind of support since he's been here to give him (and BP/TWill) a fair shot at winning more games?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 06:24 PMI encourage you to find one example of my saying I'm satisfied with Pittman. I've said we can hire a better coach than SP but if that better coach does not also come along with a great deal more in MIL, things will stay the same.

My only reason for entertaining staying with Pittman is you have 2 coordinators that can win more games with better talent. They can overcome the nuances of SP.

Hell, if he can win 9 games with KB, Odom and KJ Jefferson at QB, it isn't a stretch to say that BP and Twill can win that or more if they had the talent OM, etc have.

You mentioned Moo St will be better next year. You don't believe that is because he's gonna be a better coach next year. You believe that because he's got more money to gwt better talent. Do you think SP has gotten that kind of support since he's been here to give him (and BP/TWill) a fair shot at winning more games?

They can't and they won't overcome Sam Pittman.  We're here again next year with you arguing that 4 wins was enough for Sam to keep his job.

Actually, no, I think Lebby might be a decent coach regardless of his talent level.

Barton Fink

Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Dec 07, 2024, 06:23 PMSaying we are a 6 win program over the past 30 years is like saying the Chicago Bulls are one of the best run basketball franchises because over the past 35 years, they average one world championship every 5 years.

Surely, you can recognize that we were MUCH better the first 20 years in the SEC than the last 13 and at a minimum with competent coaching we could get back to the level we were at from 1992-2011.  I even backed up my argument with 30 years worth of data. 

As someone that has driven through Mississippi, Louisiana, and central Missouri multiple times, I refuse to believe Arkansas is poorer than those states or programs.  Do you really believe if Pete Carroll wanted to have one last ride before retirement and became our coach next month we wouldn't see a DRAMATIC increase in football NIL? (I obviously believe #3 is the reason for our lack of funds).

The SEC is FAR tougher to win in today than it was 30 years ago. You don't have Mike Shula and Gerry DiNardo roaming the sidelines.

Barton Fink

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 06:28 PMThey can't and they won't overcome Sam Pittman.  We're here again next year with you arguing that 4 wins was enough for Sam to keep his job.

Actually, no, I think Lebby might be a decent coach regardless of his talent level.

If we don't get better talent, you're right.

Arkansas and Moo St have similar talent levels. If he's some good, why was he much worse.?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 06:31 PMIf we don't get better talent, you're right.

Arkansas and Moo St have similar talent levels. If he's some good, why was he much worse.?

I don't know.  Why did your hero only win 3 his first year?  Why did BMFP only win five his first year?

Barton Fink

The guy I'm saying is not the best coach we can get 100 times now is my hero?

Petrino got Mallett his second year. Huge upgrade from Casey Dick.

If you remember we got screwed when they announced a 10 game SEC schedule Pittman's first year. The 3 wins were against regularly scheduled SEC opponents. If we played our normal schedule, that would've been a 6-6 year with a loss to ND.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 06:47 PMThe guy I'm saying is not the best coach we can get 100 times now is my hero?

Petrino got Mallett his second year. Huge upgrade from Casey Dick.

If you remember we got screwed when they announced a 10 game SEC schedule Pittman's first year. The 3 wins were against regularly scheduled SEC opponents. If we played our normal schedule, that would've been a 6-6 year with a loss to ND.

But it wasn't.

RazorB

I see there are still some that are scared to death to fire a head coach. What's the fear you guys have?

You are the same guys that get scared a coach is going to win here and leave us. How many times has that happened at Arkansas?

vegashog

Quote from: RazorB on Dec 07, 2024, 06:54 PMI see there are still some that are scared to death to fire a head coach. What's the fear you guys have?

You are the same guys that get scared a coach is going to win here and leave us. How many times has that happened at Arkansas?
nobody is scared to fire a coach. nobody on here can do anything about it.

not saying pittman sucks every fucking post is not the same as not wanting him gone.

Barton Fink

Not scared to fire a coach but just firing a coach and hiring another isn't gonna change the results. You better give him the money to compete. 

TC



The Whyte Boar

Can't be.  He told Aw Shucks he was all hog.

TC

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 06:56 PMNot scared to fire a coach but just firing a coach and hiring another isn't gonna change the results. You better give him the money to compete. 

It's been pointed out to you over the last 40 pages that a new hire (or promoting Petrino which is my desire) will ignite the fanbase and the NIL will come.

But since most of us know you could give Pittman Georgia's team and he'd still shit the bed, the NIL money isn't there.

So we'll be here again next year with 2-3 conference wins while they blame the record on the fans.

RazorB

Quote from: TC on Dec 07, 2024, 07:06 PMIt's been pointed out to you over the last 40 pages that a new hire (or promoting Petrino which is my desire) will ignite the fanbase and the NIL will come.

But since most of us know you could give Pittman Georgia's team and he'd still shit the bed, the NIL money isn't there.

So we'll be here again next year with 2-3 conference wins while they blame the record on the fans.

Rinse, repeat.

No one is giving to NIL with Pittman still running things. They don't have faith in him and HY is the one that saddled us with him and a big buyout that wasn't deserved. No other program was going to steal Pittman away from us.

Barton Fink

Quote from: TC on Dec 07, 2024, 07:06 PMIt's been pointed out to you over the last 40 pages that a new hire (or promoting Petrino which is my desire) will ignite the fanbase and the NIL will come.

But since most of us know you could give Pittman Georgia's team and he'd still shit the bed, the NIL money isn't there.

So we'll be here again next year with 2-3 conference wins while they blame the record on the fans.

Well since you pointed it out. No one on this board is gonna piss a drop but you fucking know the money will come. I'll believe it when I see it. You'd think if the people with money wanted to win they'd try harder once NIL went into effect.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 07:43 PMWell since you pointed it out. No one on this board is gonna piss a drop but you fucking know the money will come. I'll believe it when I see it. You'd think if the people with money wanted to win they'd try harder once NIL went into effect.

Why would they do that when the AD and coach spent the first couple of years bitching about it and how horrible it was?

RazorB

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 07:43 PMWell since you pointed it out. No one on this board is gonna piss a drop but you fucking know the money will come. I'll believe it when I see it. You'd think if the people with money wanted to win they'd try harder once NIL went into effect.

The money people didn't like the buyout HY restructured for Pittman. That's why no one ponied up last year. Arkansas has repeatedly pissed off donors for several years now.