2025-2026 Razorback Basketball

[buff2.0]

Fuck Eddie. Twice.

[DirkPiggler]

Fuck Eddie. Twice.

You're one of the wisest posters here most of the time, but this take is retarded as retarded gets. 

Fuck the guys who insist on tying anything honoring Nolan with similar honors for Eddie.  But without Eddie none of the things Nolan accomplished here would have happened.  Nolan would have won a title at Texas Tech or someplace similar, and we'd probably have the equivalent of Coach Cans leading a basketball program that our football team could look down upon.

You don't have to shit on one to honor the other.

[buff2.0]

Dig his corpse up and fuck it too. 

The year I was born was the year he said he would have crawled all the way to Lexington for the job.  No one knows if things would have been better or worse if Eddie had left, for whichever reason, a few years earlier and no one knows what would have happened if he had put down the bottle and coached here for another five years.  Hindsight nostalgia for an almost-champion coach is what we do best, though it makes more sense when it's football which we haven't won a championship in in my lifetime.

[DirkPiggler]

So you weren't around to see the state of the program before Eddie got here.  That makes your take a little more understandable albeit still wrong. 

You're one of the ones who gets it regarding honoring Petrino for what he accomplished the first time rather than shitting on him for how it ended.  Respecting Sutton for building a program from less than zero that would attract a successor capable of winning it all is the same principle.  Bobby's demon was pussy.  Eddie's were alcohol and booger sugar.  Both yielded the same result.

Even with all the advantages we had as a program after Nolan's forced departure we still got all the hires wrong to varying degrees betwen him and Musselman.  I don't know why you or anyone else would think we would have gotten that lucky with someone other than Sutton coming into a program that basically played in the football team's indoor practice facility. 

[jdcatty]

Dig his corpse up and fuck it too. 

The year I was born was the year he said he would have crawled all the way to Lexington for the job.  No one knows if things would have been better or worse if Eddie had left, for whichever reason, a few years earlier and no one knows what would have happened if he had put down the bottle and coached here for another five years.  Hindsight nostalgia for an almost-champion coach is what we do best, though it makes more sense when it's football which we haven't won a championship in in my lifetime.

You also forget how Nolan basically shut it down his last few years at Arkansas also.  Regardless of whose fault it was, there was no excuse for him to simply quit coaching, but that is basically what he did. I went to a game up there the last year that Joe Johnson was playing, and seeing it live confirmed what I was seeing on TV.  He was just going through the motions.  Joe Johnson was clearly the best player on the court, and Nolan did not run a single play designed to get him the ball. (I should add, there really weren't any plays for anyone-- just a lot of one on one basketball.) He still scored more than anyone, but he did it all on his own.  Nolan was apparently too busy bellyaching about JFB to coach.

Yes, Eddie disappointed us all with the way he went out.  But so did Nolan.  At least Eddie never quit coaching.

[buff2.0]

I do remember Nolan's final days, and I also remember thinking there was some validity to his public comments about Frank.  My parents were mad that he made those comments publicly; I was glad at the time that he did.  I still don't hold any anger to him for airing that laundry.

Nolan did something here though that Eddie didn't, and neither did Nutt (fired but allowed to pretend he wasn't), Muss (understandably left to go back to the west coast), Petrino (poon hound), or even DVH (still here, our own living legend).  Nolan won a Championship.  I think we're all in agreement that he and he alone should be celebrated for that.  The man's 84 years old. The celebration better happen soon, and it should have happened long before Rose departed this life. 

[jdcatty]

I do remember Nolan's final days, and I also remember thinking there was some validity to his public comments about Frank.  My parents were mad that he made those comments publicly; I was glad at the time that he did.  I still don't hold any anger to him for airing that laundry.

Nolan did something here though that Eddie didn't, and neither did Nutt (fired but allowed to pretend he wasn't), Muss (understandably left to go back to the west coast), Petrino (poon hound), or even DVH (still here, our own living legend).  Nolan won a Championship.  I think we're all in agreement that he and he alone should be celebrated for that.  The man's 84 years old. The celebration better happen soon, and it should have happened long before Rose departed this life. 

His public comments about Frank may or may not have been warranted.  But that has nothing to do with the fact that he quit coaching and recruiting.

[buff2.0]

Never said he didn't. 

[Doc Hogaday]

#15 in both polls.

[The Whyte Boar]

So you weren't around to see the state of the program before Eddie got here.  That makes your take a little more understandable albeit still wrong. 

You're one of the ones who gets it regarding honoring Petrino for what he accomplished the first time rather than shitting on him for how it ended.  Respecting Sutton for building a program from less than zero that would attract a successor capable of winning it all is the same principle.  Bobby's demon was pussy.  Eddie's were alcohol and booger sugar.  Both yielded the same result.

Even with all the advantages we had as a program after Nolan's forced departure we still got all the hires wrong to varying degrees betwen him and Musselman.  I don't know why you or anyone else would think we would have gotten that lucky with someone other than Sutton coming into a program that basically played in the football team's indoor practice facility. 

Eddie like the pussy too when he was here.

[DirkPiggler]

Eddie like the pussy too when he was here.

Of course but he was here when we had an AD who would cover for him.

[HTL]

His public comments about Frank may or may not have been warranted.  But that has nothing to do with the fact that he quit coaching and recruiting.

Andre Igoudola? Him and Sullinger would've been formidable.

[jdcatty]

Andre Igoudola? Him and Sullinger would've been formidable.

about 4 or 5 years too late...

[DirkPiggler]

Andre Igoudola? Him and Sullinger would've been formidable.

Sullinger was average at best.

The only true guard Nolan's last hypothetical team would have had was Charles Tatum. 

Of course adding Igoudala alone might have made it a borderline tournament team.  But one player regardless of ability wasn't getting us back to the point of even winning one NCAA game. 

I still believe that Nolan would have likely done something like Bruce Pearl did this year...retiring late to where we would have no choice but to hire Mike Anderson as head coach at least on an interim basis.  Which in hindsight would have probably been all right...definitely better than what we got.  Mike Conley told people that had Mike been the coach his son and Greg Oden probably would've come to Arkansas. 

Perhaps if we had promoted Mike we wouldn't have ever gotten to the level where we had to hire someone like John Pelphrey.  Maybe the resurgence would have happened a decade or so earlier.

[HTL]

Sullinger was average at best.

The only true guard Nolan's last hypothetical team would have had was Charles Tatum. 

Of course adding Igoudala alone might have made it a borderline tournament team.  But one player regardless of ability wasn't getting us back to the point of even winning one NCAA game. 

I still believe that Nolan would have likely done something like Bruce Pearl did this year...retiring late to where we would have no choice but to hire Mike Anderson as head coach at least on an interim basis.  Which in hindsight would have probably been all right...definitely better than what we got.  Mike Conley told people that had Mike been the coach his son and Greg Oden probably would've come to Arkansas. 

Perhaps if we had promoted Mike we wouldn't have ever gotten to the level where we had to hire someone like John Pelphrey.  Maybe the resurgence would have happened a decade or so earlier.

Pargo was a certified bucket.

Oden, Conley, Sullinger, and Igoudola and we'd have cut down nets again.

Nvm don't think they would've overlapped.

[DirkPiggler]

Pargo was a certified bucket.

Oden, Conley, Sullinger, and Igoudola and we'd have cut down nets again.

Nvm don't think they would've overlapped.

Pargo was also out of eligibility. 

I looked...the Ohio State pair wouldn't have even overlapped with Ronnie Brewer.

There was a reason we ended up starting Turd Ferguson and Kendrick Davis, who made Billy Richmond look like Larry Bird as an outside shooter, in Heath's first year.

[Third_down_draw]

This old white fucker would love a Nolan statue. I'll donate.

Many years ago the oldest Son spotted him in a grocery store. Nolan took time to visit with him. Very approachable and friendly. All smiles. Made an impression on my Boy.

Wonder if maybe Nolan doesn't want a bunch of old white fuckers to have a statue of him.

[Hognrock]

It is a shame we're only going to get him for 1 year.

https://x.com/RazorbackMBB/status/2008260082648445053?s=20

[DrMongoose]

You also forget how Nolan basically shut it down his last few years at Arkansas also.  Regardless of whose fault it was, there was no excuse for him to simply quit coaching, but that is basically what he did. I went to a game up there the last year that Joe Johnson was playing, and seeing it live confirmed what I was seeing on TV.  He was just going through the motions.  Joe Johnson was clearly the best player on the court, and Nolan did not run a single play designed to get him the ball. (I should add, there really weren't any plays for anyone-- just a lot of one on one basketball.) He still scored more than anyone, but he did it all on his own.  Nolan was apparently too busy bellyaching about JFB to coach.

Yes, Eddie disappointed us all with the way he went out.  But so did Nolan.  At least Eddie never quit coaching.

uh, vs. St. John's in Salt Lake City during the NCAA tournament - down 15 or so Eddie leaves the bench to go bitch to some NCAA rep about the officials (probably 3 sheets to the wind as well) - while he's gone the team goes on a run and cuts it to like 3, he comes back to the bench and the magic ends.

He was hard in the sauce that last year - and his comment about crawling to Lexington was a bitter pill to swallow but I forgave him eventually as it was totally directed at Frank.

Still, the man laid the foundation for Razorback Basketball and turned Barnhill Arena into one of the great home court advanages in college basketball - that can not be denied.

without Eddie there are no triplets - Moncrief, Delph, Brewer - and one could argue we don't become a basketball force and thus are probably not that attractive to the SEC and who knows where we end up.

[Spiderham]

uh, vs. St. John's in Salt Lake City during the NCAA tournament - down 15 or so Eddie leaves the bench to go bitch to some NCAA rep about the officials (probably 3 sheets to the wind as well) - while he's gone the team goes on a run and cuts it to like 3, he comes back to the bench and the magic ends.

He was hard in the sauce that last year - and his comment about crawling to Lexington was a bitter pill to swallow but I forgave him eventually as it was totally directed at Frank.

Still, the man laid the foundation for Razorback Basketball and turned Barnhill Arena into one of the great home court advanages in college basketball - that can not be denied.

without Eddie there are no triplets - Moncrief, Delph, Brewer - and one could argue we don't become a basketball force and thus are probably not that attractive to the SEC and who knows where we end up.

Eddie was smart enough to use Westark JC as a place for some tough guys to get their grades right. Ron Brewer Sr and Darrell Walker.
Arkansas lived off the jump route for many years.

Junior College U: UA hoops has thrived with JUCO players
August 17, 2020 at 2:00 a.m.
by Bob Holt
 
Arkansas guard Corey Beck (14) defends an unidentified Missouri player during a game Thursday, Dec. 2, 1993, in Fayetteville. The Razorbacks defeated the Tigers 120-68 in the dedication game at Bud Walton Arena.
FAYETTEVILLE – Going back 50 years to Almer Lee, the University of Arkansas basketball program has a rich history of excellence with junior-college players.
Mason Jones, The Associated Press co-SEC player of the year and an honorable mention All-American last season, became the most recent junior-college transfer to find stardom with the Razorbacks.
Last season, Jones — a 6-5 guard who played two seasons at Arkansas after transferring from Connors (Okla.) State Community College — averaged 22.0 points to become the first Razorback to lead the SEC in scoring. He scored 30 or more points nine times, including a career-high 41 against Tulsa and 40 against Auburn. He also led Arkansas by averaging 5.5 rebounds, 3.4 assists and 1.6 steals.
Other junior-college transfers to receive All-American honors with the Razorbacks include Martin Terry (1973) from Hutchinson (Kan).; Ron Brewer (1977 and 1978) from Westark in Fort Smith; Darrell Walker (1983) from Westark; and Alvin Robertson (1984) from Crowder (Mo.).
All-Time JUCO Hogs
Here is a list of the top 15 junior-college transfers to play for the University of Arkansas (years played at UA in parentheses) as voted on for an Arkansas Democrat-Gazette poll. Voters included Arkansas media and former UA staff members.
FIRST TEAM
Ron Brewer (1975-78)
Darrell Walker (1980-83)
Alvin Robertson (1981-84)
Corey Beck (1992-95)
Martin Terry (1971-73)
SECOND TEAM
Mason Jones (2018-20)
Lenzie Howell (1988-90)
Jannero Pargo (2000-02)
Daryl Macon (2016-18)
Jaylen Barford (2016-18)
THIRD TEAM
Almer Lee (1969-72)
Sonny Weems (2006-08)
Dwight Stewart (1992-95)
Alex Dillard (1993-95)
Nick Davis (1995-98)
ALSO RECEIVING VOTES Tim Scott, Isaiah Morris, Manuel Whitley, Jesse Pate, Robert Birden, Pete Butler, Robert Shepherd, Sunday Adebayo.
Lee, a Fort Smith native who transferred to Arkansas from Phillips County Junior College in Helena, became the Razorbacks' first Black letterman in basketball when he was the Southwest Conference newcomer of the year in 1970.
Point guard Corey Beck and sweet-shooting big man Dwight Stewart started on the Razorbacks' 1994 national championship team and 1995 national runner-up team after transferring from South Plains (Texas).
Lenzie Howell, a 6-4 forward from San Jacinto (Texas), was the 1990 NCAA Midwest Regional MVP for Arkansas and helped lead the Razorbacks to the Final Four. He also was the 1989 SWC Tournament MVP.
Little Rock native Daryl Macon from Holmes (Miss.) and Jaylen Barford from Motlow (Tenn.) State both became 1,000-point scorers for the Razorbacks on senior night in a victory over Auburn, and they helped Arkansas make NCAA Tournaments in 2017 and 2018.
Nick Davis, a 6-8 transfer from Gulf Coast (Fla.), averaged 9.8 rebounds for Arkansas as a senior in 1998 to lead the SEC.
The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette compiled three, five-man teams for the Razorbacks top junior-college players. Narrowing the list to 15 players wasn't easy in a vote by Democrat-Gazette and WholeHogSports.com staff members, and some former UA staff members.
Brewer, Beck, Robertson, Terry and Walker are on the first team. The second team has Barford, Howell, Jones, Macon and Jannero Pargo. Davis, Lee, Stewart, Alex Dillard and Sonny Weems are on the third team.
"That's a heck of a list," said Walker, a longtime NBA player and coach who is now coach at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. "A lot of very good junior-college players have helped shape and mold the University of Arkansas basketball program. You can't deny it."
Pat Foster, who became coach at Lamar, Houston and Nevada, was an Arkansas assistant coach when Terry and Brewer played for the Razorbacks.
"I don't think there's another program in the country that's had as many great players from junior colleges as Arkansas," Foster said. "It's an unbelievable list."
Junior-college coaches also have had a major impact on the Razorbacks.
Nolan Richardson and Eddie Sutton — Arkansas coaches elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame — got their starts in college at the juco level. Richardson also was a junior-college player at Eastern New Mexico.
Gene Keady, who won five Big Ten championships as Purdue's coach, came from Hutchinson (Kan.) to be an Arkansas assistant for Sutton.
St. John's Coach Mike Anderson, who was Richardson's assistant at Arkansas for 17 seasons and later the Razorbacks' coach for eight seasons, was a junior-college player at Jefferson State in his hometown of Birmingham, Ala.
Of the 22 combined NCAA Tournament teams in 25 seasons at Arkansas when Sutton and Richardson were the coaches, 14 had at least one starter who was a junior-college transfer.
Richardson had a 101-13 record in three seasons at Western Texas, including the 1980 NJCAA championship team that was 37-0. Sutton was 83-14 in three seasons at Southern Idaho.
"Coach Sutton and Coach Richardson knew from being juco coaches that there were some very good players in junior college," Walker said. "They had the connections to find the guys that could help them win."
When Richardson became the coach at Tulsa for the 1980-81 season, he had a starting lineup of all junior-college players — including Anderson at point guard — that beat Syracuse to win the NIT championship.
"Tulsa hadn't won anything in forever, and we won with an all junior-college starting lineup," Richardson said. "I saw the difference between a junior-college and high school player. The maturity and how quickly a junior-college player would develop going against great competition.
"There's no question to me that you're better having some junior-college players in your program."
The Razorbacks were coming off a 16-16 season when Barford and Macon joined the program and helped Arkansas go 26-10 and 23-12.
Barford averaged 15.3 points in two seasons and 17.9 as a senior. Macon averaged 15.1 points in two seasons and 16.8 as a senior.
"I remember after Jaylen and Daryl had both committed, I was at the Junior College Jamboree in Dallas," said Matt Zimmerman, an Arkansas assistant coach at the time who is now the radio color analyst for the Razorbacks. "All the coaches came up and said, 'You guys got the two best junior-college players in the country.'
"That was pretty nice to hear that, to know we had two men coming. Jaylen and Daryl were guys that could make you a lot better instantly."
Lee helped pave the way for Black players to come to Arkansas after he averaged 17.3 points as a sophomore. He averaged 19.1 points as a junior and was named second-team All-SWC.
A knee injury limited Lee to five games as a senior, but that didn't diminish his influence on the program.
"Almer was the big reason I went to Arkansas," Brewer, part of the famed "Triplets" along with Sidney Moncrief and Marvin Delph who led the Razorbacks to the 1978 Final Four, said in 2016. "Arkansas wasn't my first choice coming out of high school, but I looked up to Almer and I listened when he told me, 'Arkansas is where you need to be because things are changing for the better.'
"I can say that over the years, a lot of the great players at Arkansas being of color were there because of Almer, what he did or said to them directly. We all either knew about Almer or had been mentored by him or had conversations with him."
Terry, who played for Keady in junior college, averaged 26.3 points in two seasons at Arkansas, including 28.3 as a senior when he led the Razorbacks to a 16-10 record under coach Lanny Van Eman.
"Martin Terry is a forgotten Razorback," Walker said. "He's a great player that a lot of people don't remember or don't know about. We don't talk enough about a guy who averaged nearly 30 points a game."
Terry scored 30 or more points in 18 of 52 games for the Razorbacks, including 47 against SMU, 46 against Texas A&M, 43 against Memphis and 40 against Southern Illinois.
When Terry was contacted by a reporter for the Arkansas Democrat in 1983 for a story on his career 10 years after he played for the Razorbacks, he seemed pleasantly surprised.
"True fans will remember when I played," Terry said at the time. "But I thought I was a has been. Gone on."
Terry shot 52.0% from the field as a senior.
"Martin was the best intermediate range jump shooter that I believe I've ever seen," Foster said. "By intermediate range, I mean he could beat you off the dribble to a spot inside the defense.
"He wasn't a long-range shooter like Marvin Delph or [Arkansas junior] Isaiah Joe. That wasn't his game. He would put the ball on the floor and get to a spot, and he was automatic."
Bobby Vint, a former Arkansas player and an assistant coach when Terry played, said Terry played a role in the Razorbacks' success under Sutton.
"Martin generated a lot of excitement for Arkansas basketball," Vint told the Democrat in 1983. "And that helped lead to a commitment by coach [Frank] Broyles and the hiring of coach Sutton."
Brewer averaged a team-high 18.8 points as a senior and 15.8 points in three seasons.
"As good as Sidney and Marvin were, Ron was the most talented player we had on that team," Foster said. "Ron had the edge on everybody else."
Walker averaged 18.2 points as a senior and 14.7 points during his three seasons. Robertson averaged 15.5 points as a senior and 12.5 in three seasons.
Walker and Robertson were at the their best on defense. Opposing guards sometimes struggled just to get the ball past the half-court line . Walker averaged 2.6 steals and Robertson 2.5. Both got a lot of dunks off turnovers.
"There were a lot of guards we terrorized," Walker said with a laugh.
Beck averaged 7.9 points and 4.7 assists in three seasons at Arkansas.
"For me, Corey's biggest asset was his leadership," Walker said. "He was tough, he was hard-nosed, but more than anything he was a big-time leader. I would take a Corey Beck on my team any time."
Pargo, from Neosho County (Kan.), averaged 16.6 points as a senior and 14.4 in two seasons at Arkansas.
Dillard, from Southern Union (Ala.), averaged 7.8 points in 12.5 minutes off the bench in two seasons and hit 138 of 344 three-pointers. He scored 39 points against Delaware State.
Stewart averaged 7.4 points and 4.5 rebounds in three seasons. Weems, from West Memphis and UA-Fort Smith, averaged 15.0 points as a senior and 13.4 points in two seasons.
An Arkansas junior-college transfer not to make the top 15 was Manuel Whitley, a Bismarck native who averaged 17.0 points as a senior during the 1955-56 season after serving in the Army and playing at Little Rock Junior College, which is now UALR.
Nine junior-college players scored 30 or more points in 40 games for the Razorbacks, including Tim Scott's 34 against Kansas and Danny Manning during the 1986-87 season.
The Razorbacks don't have a junior-college player on their current roster after Jones' decision to enter the NBA Draft and bypass his senior season. But Akol Mawein, a 6-10 forward from Navarro (Texas) Community College who played at Southwest Christian Academy in Little Rock, has committed to the Razorbacks and Coach Eric Musselman for the Class of 2021.
In Musselman's two seasons at Arkansas, he has added five graduate transfers.
"I loved recruiting junior-college players," Zimmerman said. "They're a little bit like what Coach Musselman is getting with senior grad transfers. I think you can coach them really hard and aggressive, because they've got nowhere else to go. This is it for them.
"Juco guys are the same way. They come to you, and now they've got to perform. They don't have any other options."
Zimmerman said junior-college players also bring a hunger — literally and figuratively — to Division I programs.
"In junior college, they've been riding in the vans on long trips, and they're eating sandwiches, and they don't live in places as nice as Division I players," Zimmerman said. "So they've come from a little bit tougher environment, and they've had to grow from those life experiences."
CORRECTION: Phillips County Community College was incorrectly identified as being in Hot Springs. It has been corrected to say the college is in Helena.