The NEXT Coach

Started by PHARMHOG, Sep 28, 2025, 01:21 PM

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Borenutz

Quote from: passed on Sep 30, 2025, 03:42 PMCignetti, now that's one that pique's my interest.  His age is a negative, but he has a long history of taking losers, perennial losers, and making them winners.

Surely he means the next Cignetti, Lanning because we're certainly not getting either of those.

passed

Quote from: Borenutz on Sep 30, 2025, 05:40 PMSurely he means the next Cignetti, Lanning because we're certainly not getting either of those.

Nope.  I'm referring to the one at Indiana.  No, I wasn't saying we could get him.  Just saying that is one that really piques my interest.  His age is the only real downside.

vegashog

you don't hire cignetti from indiana, you hire him from james madison.

those totally writing off some of these 'lesser' guys are making a mistake, imo.

Piggielicious

We should go after Kiffin just to make Ole miss give him another raise.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 30, 2025, 02:51 PMHis financial advisor in LR was telling people around here towards the end of last year that A) Rhett very much wanted this job and B) that their NIL wasn't nearly what people assumed based on their history.

The ACC only agreed to take them if they agreed to waive all media rights payments (about $45 million annually) for the first ten years.  Boosters agreed to cover that money each year to operate the athletic department.  Maybe they are still willing to kick in another $10MM or so per year for NIL, but it seems unlikely. 

They're going to start most years with a roster that is behind the following:

Miami
Clemson
Florida State
Virginia Tech (assuming they get their shit together with the next hire)

They'll probably be in a similar spot to the following

Georgia Tech
Syracuse
NC State
Pitt

It's not insurmountable, but it's also not significantly easier than what he would have to face here to get to the playoffs...especially knowing that he could lose a couple more games per year and get there. 

And there's no guarantee that the ACC will even exist by the time they start getting media rights payments.  SMU almost certainly isn't getting a spot in the Big 10 or SEC, and it looks like whatever new playoff model they end up with is going to lean heavily towards those leagues.  Is it easier to get one spot allocated to the ACC, or one of potentially 5-6 (or more depending on size) in an expanded playoff as an SEC school. 

I think I'd get a new financial advisor if he's flapping his gums to anyone other than a highly placed AD.

And maybe even then.

jdcatty

My wife will be with Lashlee's mother at a sorority event in Fayetteville this weekend. Will be interesting to see if she says anything.
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The Whyte Boar

One thing Arkansas has over SMU is that it is in the SEC.  Win 9 games in the SEC, maybe 8 since we are going to a 9 game conference schedule, and you are very likely in the playoff.  And even a retard like Sam managed to win 9 at Arkansas.

I think it is also increasingly clear that Lashlee does actually want the job.

obijuana

Bobby's the guy. I can't think of anyone else I want.

NIL the shit out of the roster and let the man cook.
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bigpig

Quote from: obijuana on Sep 30, 2025, 08:01 PMBobby's the guy. I can't think of anyone else I want.

NIL the shit out of the roster and let the man cook.

Bobby flopped at Louisville 2.0 becuase he couldn't keep a staff and becuase his reputation was so damaged he couldn't recruit.

Today, you don't really recruit kids. You hire them. Give him the NIL support and that takes care of problem 2. Problem 1 is staff, but give him enough money for hiring assistants, and that's that. Pay someone enough and they'll work for a meanie.
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BleedinRed

I would think there are plenty of up and coming coordinators that would love to work for an SEC program and don't have the same feels and opinions about BP as maybe the older ones established guys have.   

Zoso

If BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.

Pumpkin Escobar

Quote from: Zoso on Sep 30, 2025, 08:52 PMIf BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.

I think he'll eventually be in the SEC, but it will be someplace like Bama, LSU or Florida.
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Feral

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 01, 2025, 01:46 AMI think he'll eventually be in the SEC, but it will be someplace like Bama, LSU or Florida.

Same. It says something about Oregon that the last two head coaches left willingly to go to Southern schools.

I think he'll eventually wind up in the SEC, but at one of the bigger jobs like the ones you mentioned or Georgia if Kirby pulls a Bob Stoops and retires early (which some people have predicted).

If we're going the coordinator route, I used to be high on Glenn Schumann at Georgia thinking he could be the next Lanning, but that defense has taken a huge step back lately.

animal

Quote from: Zoso on Sep 30, 2025, 08:52 PMIf BMFP flames out...we are getting Lanning.
That's if CUM doesn't want it
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BASS

GJ Kinne and Texas St take on Arkansas St Saturday at 3 on ESPNU if you want a look at candidate against a common opponent.
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: BASS on Oct 01, 2025, 11:12 AMGJ Kinne and Texas St take on Arkansas St Saturday at 3 on ESPNU if you want a look at candidate against a common opponent.

Played for Malzahn, and coached under Morris.  Outstanding pedigree.

Meet the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
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DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 01, 2025, 11:17 AMPlayed for Malzahn, and coached under Morris.  Outstanding pedigree.

Meet the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

The only thing missing is being on a men's league basketball team with HDN

animal

GJ is a bit young still yet...if we're not landing a real name...be it Petrino, Mullens, Gruden, or whatever then I'd be for taking a hard look at a up and comer but more so in that 40 to 45 crowd. Preferably a coach that's built some shit from limited resources and not someone with a pedigree where everything was handed to them on a silver platter. 

We all know somehow Malzahn is going to be right in the middle of this. I've never really cared for his offense and he was terrible at his last HC stop but he'll bring some juice, is an upgrade over Pittman, and does bring a certain amount of good credibility to the position. He's going to know the lay of the land better than some pud from Texas at least. I would absolutely take Mullens over him and I don't want either really.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

passed

Quote from: animal on Oct 01, 2025, 12:05 PMGJ is a bit young still yet...if we're not landing a real name...be it Petrino, Mullens, Gruden, or whatever then I'd be for taking a hard look at a up and comer but more so in that 40 to 45 crowd. Preferably a coach that's built some shit from limited resources and not someone with a pedigree where everything was handed to them on a silver platter.

We all know somehow Malzahn is going to be right in the middle of this. I've never really cared for his offense and he was terrible at his last HC stop but he'll bring some juice, is an upgrade over Pittman, and does bring a certain amount of good credibility to the position. He's going to know the lay of the land better than some pud from Texas at least. I would absolutely take Mullens over him and I don't want either really.



I'm more in favor of Lashlee than Kinne (at this point)... but I don't want the Gus bus 2.0.  If we're talking Gruden money, then I say fuck it and we grab either Lanning or back up the Brinks for Cignetti.  The overall cost of Gruden will be just as high, and I would rather a current proven winner than a TV personality "used to be" middling coach.  I'd rather pay the $13mil for Cignetti, and 9-10mil a year than pay 9-10mil a year for Gruden.  I think the ROI on Cignetti is way higher.  (Lanning has a $20mil buyout).

Barton Fink

Listened to Kevin Kelley while grabbing lunch today and they were talking about the coaching search. He said he called Gruden to talk about it, and he thinks the university wants it to be Petrino. Said they want him to show enough progress that they promote him.

Take that for what it is worth. That does make sense in the fact that they gave him the ok to make immediate staff changes. We shall see....