Arkansas vs Tennessee

Started by DRYANKNPULL, Oct 11, 2025, 12:05 PM

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soldiersooie

Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 13, 2025, 06:55 PMThe crown of helmet on the ball in the TN game. I don't think many ball carries NFL or college were holding on to that one. It was just a perfect hit. But. Probably would have broke one of our defenders necks in the reverse situation.

Russell should not have been as straight up as he was when the defender dislodged the ball.  If his pads had been lower, the defender wouldn't have been able to put the crown on the ball.

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PHARMHOG

Quote from: soldiersooie on Oct 14, 2025, 06:12 AMRussell should not have been as straight up as he was when the defender dislodged the ball.  If his pads had been lower, the defender wouldn't have been able to put the crown on the ball.

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The Whyte Boar

I also watched our other guys, including Green put two arms on the ball when expecting contact. 

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 14, 2025, 07:33 AMI also watched our other guys, including Green put two arms on the ball when expecting contact. 

And Green still fumlbed eleventy billion times in the game.  Yikes.

DirkPiggler

I wonder about Green's fumbles, because he has a lot of them.  Is there something he could do differently outside of finding a way to avoid contact that would prevent the strip sacks?  Maybe something about how he's holding the ball?  Most if not all of his fumbles come on these types of plays.

I never played QB and don't know shit about the mechanics of the position.
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BleedinRed

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 14, 2025, 08:00 AMI wonder about Green's fumbles, because he has a lot of them.  Is there something he could do differently outside of finding a way to avoid contact that would prevent the strip sacks?  Maybe something about how he's holding the ball?  Most if not all of his fumbles come on these types of plays.

I never played QB and don't know shit about the mechanics of the position.

Bobby has talked about this a few times over the last two weeks.  Said that Green needs to recognize that when he is running for his life he needs to know that there is a defender right on his heels.  Cover the ball up and get whatever you can get running.  Live to see another down.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 14, 2025, 07:36 AMAnd Green still fumlbed eleventy billion times in the game.  Yikes.

Green's fumbles come from when he is scrambling and trying to pass and make a play.  When he is actually running the ball, he has pretty good ball security.

DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 14, 2025, 08:20 AMBobby has talked about this a few times over the last two weeks.  Said that Green needs to recognize that when he is running for his life he needs to know that there is a defender right on his heels.  Cover the ball up and get whatever you can get running.  Live to see another down.

He did talk about that. He said specifically when he was running left.  To throw the ball, you have to open your body directly into the pursuing defender. It's a big fuck up that will lead to fumbles.

The Whyte Boar

I never watched the kid at Boise State so I don't know if he was prone to the same type fumble while there, but playing in the SEC is probably the first time in his life he has had defensive lineman who could keep up with him and be anywhere near him.

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 14, 2025, 09:47 AMGreen's fumbles come from when he is scrambling and trying to pass and make a play.  When he is actually running the ball, he has pretty good ball security.
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Borenutz

Quote from: soldiersooie on Oct 14, 2025, 06:12 AMRussell should not have been as straight up as he was when the defender dislodged the ball.  If his pads had been lower, the defender wouldn't have been able to put the crown on the ball.

Not disagreeing with that necessarily, but I was responding to the suggestion that it was related to conditioning and fatigue. I think that has more to do with technique and coaching. I don't think a helmet on the ball like that is a conditioning issue, especially since he shouldn't have been anywhere near fatigued given his involvement. Greens fumbling issues could be such, given he's running for his life a lot, but he's very loose with the ball, even when running. He's usually toting the ball in one hand.