Razorback Football

Started by Silence Of The Hams, Mar 08, 2023, 03:32 PM

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piglosopher

Well, I'm tired of watching KJ be a statue in the pocket only to get wrecked in slow motion.

He's best when he's shaking off the lone tackler and improvising. Shotgun, RPO, and screw it just go.

DrMongoose

#1961
the answer is telling at the 9:20 mark (question about the offensive line) , it's like he's mixture of Morris and Pelphrey - we don't have an answer but we're going to work harder.



Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Third_down_draw

Our entire offense looks like it is playing underwater.

KJ's face makes me sleepy.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Oct 24, 2023, 01:18 PMI'm not sure I've seen KJ stare down receivers as much as he did in this one. Even when the line gave him more than 2 seconds, you could tell he was not going through his progressions. He has one option or check down. And he has to be the worst qb to have at the end of a half/game when you need to score. I know you want your qb to be calm in those situations, but damn. He's like a catatonic back there. No urgency whatsoever.
Quote from: bigpig on Oct 24, 2023, 01:22 PMYeah there's a difference between being "calm under fire" and "apathetic."

KJ definitely exudes the latter.

Something has changed. 

2020 Missouri...led us to a go-ahead drive and two point conversion late.
2021 Ole Miss...KJ led the team down to what could have been the tying or winning score with little time left.
2021 Miss State...led winning drive with 2:00 remaining.

I don't know if it was expectations, ego, or coaching (I suspect the latter), but KJ used to be calm and skilled in close/late situations. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

The Whyte Boar

KJ has always been a player who had games where he didn't show up early and had to work himself into playing well.  And the until he got it straight, the offense would be ass.  Under Briles, unless injured he usually got it going.  This year, except for the first game and a few flashes he has never not looked like ass. 

Keyser Soooie

I think it's painfully obvious that KB running the offense (however flawed he may be) and Odom giving Sam HC/running the program advice was the reason for our resurrection from the Chad debacle.

Now they're both gone and Sam is utterly lost as a HC. Meanwhile, Odom is 6-1 at UNLV.

Sam is like George Costanza with the Penske file. He got the job but has no clue what he's supposed to be doing with it.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Oct 24, 2023, 02:20 PMSam is like George Costanza with the Penske file. He got the job but has no clue what he's supposed to be doing with it.

You mean he hasn't been downtown? It's all downtown.

Texzilla

Quote from: mde114 on Oct 24, 2023, 12:08 PMIf only we could find a guy that could run Briles' system and was looking for a job.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38704304/negligence-claims-vs-ex-baylor-coach-art-briles-dismissed?platform=amp



That's a single case, the others are still in play.  Briles supported these players as this shit went down.  Were I one of the girl's parents his head would be on a stick. He's hiding out in Italy coaching there.  Pull his passport.  Let him rot over there.

Show-Me Hog

Well ain't this an incredibly depressing article. I realize it's just some 20-something shithead writing under the SI byline, but still.

Arkansas fans need to accept a reality that doesn't seem to have set in. It's going to be borderline impossible to improve dramatically on the offensive line in the coming years barring a few lucky breaks in the transfer portal.

The state simply doesn't have enough money to fully fund an SEC level roster across the board in an NIL world, so there will always be a deficiency in some area on the team. The area where that most likely will occur is along the offensive line.


https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-football/razorbacks-offensive-line-pittman-nil-collective-recruiting?fbclid=IwAR0Q_G9-NwVX6mRud3UNjr_xgTLZfs8Jh8wXyMgKho5PK0yfk5MZIzDWwwA

The Whyte Boar

That's a stupid article.  We have more money than Louisiana, Mississippi or half the other SEC states.  And we only have one team to support.  We might lack the commitment to fund it, but we won't really know that until we hire a fucking coach who is committed to the program, winning at a high level, and who beats the bushes for NIL money like other coaches do. 

Get some success going, and people might be surprised how much money we have.  I doubt people would be talking like that if we had a Petrino like coach and had a couple ten win seasons lately.

TC

Quote from: hit_that_line on Oct 24, 2023, 12:07 PMRolling the pocket is not KJ's strength. Stupid idea to begin with.

Yep. When he does roll the pocket out he either short hops the receiver or throws it over his head. 

See the last play of the first drive against Miss St. KJ rolled right and had an open receiver for a TD, but 1 hopped it.

egregious

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 24, 2023, 03:05 PMThat's a stupid article.  We have more money than Louisiana, Mississippi or half the other SEC states.  And we only have one team to support.  We might lack the commitment to fund it, but we won't really know that until we hire a fucking coach who is committed to the program, winning at a high level, and who beats the bushes for NIL money like other coaches do. 

Get some success going, and people might be surprised how much money we have.  I doubt people would be talking like that if we had a Petrino like coach and had a couple ten win seasons lately.

This is true, but it is hard seeing how to get there from here given who we have making decisions. The state picks its leaders in the only way that's actually worse than DEI - nepotism.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: TC on Oct 24, 2023, 03:24 PMYep. When he does roll the pocket out he either short hops the receiver or throws it over his head. 

See the last play of the first drive against Miss St. KJ rolled right and had an open receiver for a TD, but 1 hopped it.

On the 4th down play from our own end (next to last drive), Tesla was completely alone near the right sideline and past the first down marker.

KJ was looking that direction (good) but threw it to a nice empty space on the turf 20 yards from Tesla and 20 yards from another receiver more upfield.

I still have no idea why that would be.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 24, 2023, 03:37 PMOn the 4th down play from our own end (next to last drive), Tesla was completely alone near the right sideline and past the first down marker.

KJ was looking that direction (good) but threw it to a nice empty space on the turf 20 yards from Tesla and 20 yards from another receiver more upfield.

I still have no idea why that would be.

Maybe he needs some glasses like Wild Thing Vaughan.

TC

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 24, 2023, 03:37 PMOn the 4th down play from our own end (next to last drive), Tesla was completely alone near the right sideline and past the first down marker.

KJ was looking that direction (good) but threw it to a nice empty space on the turf 20 yards from Tesla and 20 yards from another receiver more upfield.

I still have no idea why that would be.

Yep. Tessla didn't have a man within 10 yards of him.


animal

Nobody wants to believe that KJ is dumber than shit but he is and at the risk of falling for old backup QB grass is greener I'd love to have seen Criswell get some snaps. KJ hasn't had any help from his offensive line and a major part of that is the center is awful. In years past the center was certainly helping KJ make the reads he needs to make pre-snap and I suspect that's not been the case this season. The last time we were this bad at the center position was Chad's first year and that year was an 0-8 campaign too.

The honeymoon is over and this hee haw shucks "act" about not knowing what he's doing...well people are coming around the to the idea that he really doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. Hell I like Sam...wasn't overly impressed when he was here under Bert. I liked Bert and still kinda do...it's a joy to watch a Bert team when it's clicking the problem is it's rarely does. I'd love to see Sam pull it out and somehow resurrect the program (again) but we've seen this movie too many times and know how it ends.

The idea of retiring Pittman and somehow pulling in Gary Patterson does move the needle I must admit. I just don't know that hiring an old guy looking for a pay day with minimal expectations is the right route to take. But the young and hungry types are too boom or bust. I feel like we needed experience just as i did when Pittman was hired...but by experience I do think we need to hire a coach that knows how to captain the whole ship. It's no small thing to organize a program at the scale of an SEC program in order to compete with the schools of which nearly all can or willing to out spend and certainly out athlete us.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Too Big Pig

Maybe there is a reason other schools didn't recruit KJ as a quarterback.

I think when he was given specific instructions, he was functional (and at times exciting). I also theorize they convinced him to come back with the pitch of Enos will raise your stock by showing off your skills in a pro style offense. Problem is, he is not that level of quarterback.
"When life gives you lemons...fuck life"
- Sir John Michael of Oklahoma

Pig Benis

Quote from: animal on Oct 24, 2023, 07:34 PMThe idea of retiring Pittman and somehow pulling in Gary Patterson does move the needle I must admit. I just don't know that hiring an old guy looking for a pay day with minimal expectations is the right route to take. But the young and hungry types are too boom or bust. I feel like we needed experience just as i did when Pittman was hired...but by experience I do think we need to hire a coach that knows how to captain the whole ship. It's no small thing to organize a program at the scale of an SEC program in order to compete with the schools of which nearly all can or willing to out spend and certainly out athlete us.



Patterson is old, already wealthy, and doesn't want to deal with transfer portal and NIL. He's great if you want to hire him as a consultant to scheme up defenses every week like Texas did. I think we'll see a lot of established coaches either retire or move on to the NFL soon due to the new landscape. We need someone young and hungry who understands and embraces all that shit, preferably an offensive coach. Every coaching hire is a roll of the dice but maybe even moreso for us next time around.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Pumpkin Escobar

I always liked Patterson, he was my top choice to replace HDN, but I'd rather go with someone younger like Herman.
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Texzilla

We don't need an old guy whining about nil and the portal unless it's Saban.  Otherwise young aggressive and smart is what we need who is involved.  Sam said he doesn't go to the defensive rooms much and won't now.  He admitted he hadn't been that involved with the o.  His let the coaches coach approach is an excuse for lazy.