Razorback Football

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Barton Fink

So you're asking a program that has a disadvantage against other schools to outperform them and win 8-9 games, then we will give money. Wishful thinking.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 18, 2024, 07:29 PMSo you're asking a program that has a disadvantage against other schools to outperform them and win 8-9 games, then we will give money. Wishful thinking.

We're fucking terrible and we could easily be there right now.  Stop with this loser "wittle ol Arkansas" argument.  We have enough talent right now to win 9.  Sam is a two to three game below talent level coach and EVERYONE knows it.  That is why no one gives. 

AporkalypseNow

If Ole Miss, Missouri, etc can field top 20 teams so can we.  Come on, now.

Finding the perfect coach like Petrino was then isn't easy, but you don't have to do that simply to be a ranked team.

Barton Fink

Not my point. I'm saying it doesn't matter if you're the coach or Nick Saban, if you wanna win more then buy players.

Kiffen has been at OM since Pittman. They've only been slightly better than us. This year they will likely be in the playoffs. Why? They spent a shit ton in NIL. My point is getting a slightly better coach isn't gonna move the needle much. Want better results? Get better players.

AporkalypseNow

Kiffen is 42-17 (vs Pitt's 28-30) at Ole Miss working on his 3rd 10 win season and has never missed a bowl.  GTFO.

Agree on NIL money, but he's a dude that has no problem getting recruits to come visit and want to play for him.

vegashog

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 18, 2024, 07:49 PMKiffen is 42-17 (vs Pitt's 28-30) at Ole Miss working on his 3rd 10 win season and has never missed a bowl.  GTFO.

Agree on NIL money, but he's a dude that has no problem getting recruits to come visit and want to play for him.
and ole miss fans gave him that nil the year after he lost five of the last six games in 2022.

freeze is about to go 4-8. they have the 3rd best recruiting class. those kids are going to auburn because of his coaching excellence or some shit.  they are straight up being paid.

it's not about pittman, it's about the program. the wait and see attitude will just get us farther behind.

animal

It still doesn't help that our head coach and basically everyone in a leadership role tells the world we're tiny arkansuk and can't pay up because the Joe Six Pack fans won't piss away more money.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Cornhogio

I don't see giving Pittman more NIL money.  He's not optimizing what he gets.  Why give him more?
Never squat with your spurs on!

The Whyte Boar

Fuck Pittman and fuck Arkansas until they hire an actual coach.

And it isn't a wait and see attitude.  It's a we've seen and he sucks attitude.


vegashog

Quote from: Cornhogio on Nov 18, 2024, 07:59 PMI don't see giving Pittman more NIL money.  He's not optimizing what he gets.  Why give him more?
then get the results you get. and any potential next guy is damn sure going to take nil (or lack of)
into consideration along with the quality of the roster.


AporkalypseNow

Quote from: Cornhogio on Nov 18, 2024, 07:59 PMI don't see giving Pittman more NIL money.  He's not optimizing what he gets.  Why give him more?

Exactly, nobody's ponying up NIL money for Pittman.  Especially at this point.

Barton Fink

Then don't expect to get a very good coach if Pittman is fired.

AporkalypseNow

A very good coach?

I'd settle for above average right now, and pony up

Barton Fink

So you just want to be marginally better?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 18, 2024, 08:23 PMSo you just want to be marginally better?

Marginally better would have us at 7 wins right now with a chance to get to 10 with a bowl win.  I'd take that for a start.

vegashog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2024, 08:24 PMMarginally better would have us at 7 wins right now with a chance to get to 10 with a bowl win.  I'd take that for a start.
so say, barry odom?

The Whyte Boar


vegashog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2024, 08:28 PMIt would be an improvement. 
i agree, just wanted to hear what you had to say. (don't want odom).

Barton Fink

Marginally better means you beat OSU and are 6-4. Congrats. People will still bitch and be unsatisfied.

I wanna get better players which would also attract a better coach. You fire Pittman, have a mid tier roster, a shit NIL, and you're gonna get what you deserve. Enjoy Barry Odom and the likes...

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 18, 2024, 08:29 PMi agree, just wanted to hear what you had to say. (don't want odom).

I don't want Odom but I'm not sure he wouldn't be majorly improved with another go at the SEC.