Razorback Football

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Barton Fink

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Dec 23, 2024, 09:22 PMSince we're still rehashing this, do you believe BP has full control of the offense, including 4th down decisions, clock management and the like?

I'd wager he rarely gets overruled on play calling. 4th down should be a coaches decision but with input from the OC. I'd wxpect BP to recommend calling a TO but SP ultimately sjould own that. Fakes are also on the coach.

These things bit us sometimes like everyone else. More? Maybe but I don't think those decisions cause us to lose many games. Not having the talent to compete and execute cause us to lose more games. In close games, bug tine players make big time plays. That is usually the difference.

Doc Hogaday

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 23, 2024, 07:24 PM100% agree.  I will always believe Petrino was building a monster and was going to flip the script historically speaking. 

Agreed.


Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 23, 2024, 07:43 PMSo true all you can do is laugh at it.  A team that could challenge for a National Title any other year just happens to come along at the same time that Alabama and LSU have two of their all-time bests.

Also agreed. When Bama & LSU played each other in 2011, that game had 45 players that were drafted into the NFL...most all-time.

Timing is a bitch.
Pants ironed and back for more

HogOfWar

Quote from: vegashog on Dec 23, 2024, 09:43 PMhe's not the only coach that has commented that player's prices have gone up so i'm not sure what you're trying to say.

coaches can only spend what money they have.


BLS is out of his league and as short sighted as the rest of those in charge.

Shooting off his mouth about being cheap was bonehead and foolharty at best.

Yes, prices of players go up. It does in the NFL all the time. Why would anyone think it wouldn't in college. It probably has before NIL, but now it is all out in the open.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Barton Fink

Roster is gonna be an issue for all teams to a degree. This may be a detriment to BP but we will see. The longer kids are with him the more they progress. Curious if we see Green make a leap next year.

Teams that have the most money in NIL  have an advantage. Not just buying new players but convincing kids to stay.


Barton Fink

Quote from: HogOfWar on Dec 23, 2024, 09:55 PMBLS is out of his league and as short sighted as the rest of those in charge.

Shooting off his mouth about being cheap was bonehead and foolharty at best.

Yes, prices of players go up. It does in the NFL all the time. Why would anyone think it wouldn't in college. It probably has before NIL, but now it is all out in the open.

I'm not sure anyone expected players to command $8-12M per year. If you have $12M total in NIL due you spend more for less players or do you build depth? We don't have the luxury of stocked up high 4 and 5*'s waiting on the bench.

Which coaches do you feel are not short sighted and not cheap?

vegashog

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 23, 2024, 10:04 PMI'm not sure anyone expected players to command $8-12M per year. If you have $12M total in NIL due you spend more for less players or do you build depth? We don't have the luxury of stocked up high 4 and 5*'s waiting on the bench.

Which coaches do you feel are not short sighted and not cheap?
exactly.

doesn't matter what the players cost, you can only spend what you have. there's nothing shortsighted about it.

BleedinRed

And "BLS" is one of the more retarded things our fan base has come up with.  It should go in the Stop It thread. 

Texzilla

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 23, 2024, 10:04 PMI'm not sure anyone expected players to command $8-12M per year. If you have $12M total in NIL due you spend more for less players or do you build depth? We don't have the luxury of stocked up high 4 and 5*'s waiting on the bench.

Which coaches do you feel are not short sighted and not cheap?

It's out of control.  Is mizzou paying $1.5 mill for the pedo qb? Who's controlling that? Is that a single booster buying that player and telling shitzwicz what's going down?  Duke paying  Qb from Tulane $4 mill?  Huh? 

At some point the contracts need to be standardized and public.  The sec and big have to lead.  Put in a cap.  Put in Portal rules.  Hold these kids, parents, boosters accountable.  Or the game will collapse.

jdcatty

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 23, 2024, 10:04 PMI'm not sure anyone expected players to command $8-12M per year. If you have $12M total in NIL due you spend more for less players or do you build depth? We don't have the luxury of stocked up high 4 and 5*'s waiting on the bench.

Which coaches do you feel are not short sighted and not cheap?

None of the really "big" football schools -- Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, et cetera-- have nearly the depth now they had even 5 years ago.  Those four and five stars aren't going to sit on the bench and "wait their turn" like they did for so many years.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

vegashog

Quote from: Texzilla on Dec 23, 2024, 10:46 PMIt's out of control.  Is mizzou paying $1.5 mill for the pedo qb?
and that's for a former 3* with 56 attempts over two seasons.

that's what pittman and other coaches are talking about. it's not the just the 'superstars' but guys with a year or two experience who hadn't done much of shit, asking for 6 figures or more. but if you need to fill a roster, what can you do? you just  hope the guy can get into the rotation or if you're lucky, be a starter.

nobody saw that happening.

Barton Fink

Quote from: jdcatty on Dec 23, 2024, 11:01 PMNone of the really "big" football schools -- Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, et cetera-- have nearly the depth now they had even 5 years ago.  Those four and five stars aren't going to sit on the bench and "wait their turn" like they did for so many years.

It will eventually trickle down. I'd love to know how much HS kids get vs transfers.

Usafhawg

Quote from: bigpig on Dec 23, 2024, 06:43 PM3rd in the SEC West and yet somehow also 3rd in the nation.

If that's not Arkansas athletics in a nutshell...

For one week

buff2.0

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 23, 2024, 10:30 PMAnd "BLS" is one of the more retarded things our fan base has come up with.  It should go in the Stop It thread. 

The coach said it
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

BleedinRed

Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 24, 2024, 05:20 AMThe coach said it

Im talking about the 8th grade nicknames we come up with.  

Pittman was right about the offensive line by the way. 

buff2.0

And he said it while walking around the field in earshot of the players.  On national TV.  Even Dale (God fuck his soul) wasn't that stupid.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: vegashog on Dec 23, 2024, 11:06 PMand that's for a former 3* with 56 attempts over two seasons.

that's what pittman and other coaches are talking about. it's not the just the 'superstars' but guys with a year or two experience who hadn't done much of shit, asking for 6 figures or more. but if you need to fill a roster, what can you do? you just  hope the guy can get into the rotation or if you're lucky, be a starter.

nobody saw that happening.

They should have.  It was pretty easy to predict.  Players are a limited resource.  Scarcity always a product in demand always leads to higher prices.

Barton Fink

So we are mad that he said but all agree it's true?

I get there is a time and place for saying things. This is more or less just fuel to the fire. It gives you one more thing to complain about. No one else in the country has said a word about it.

Feral

Quote from: razor5396 on Dec 23, 2024, 12:25 PMA serious program also does not hire a coach because previous players really, really liked him. I am with you. We are dead. We have been dead since Chadrick. The only thing that can save us now is if we some how derp our back to success and dont fuck it up this time

We've been a dead program since Petrino went over the handlebars in 2012.

The players lobbied Long for JLS and we all saw what a clusterfuck that was.

Long hired Bert because of his love letter.

The boosters hired Chad because Gus recommended him (!) after he pantsed us.

Former players lobbied for Pittman.

We haven't had a legitimate coaching search since Petrino.

Barton Fink

We did such a poor job with Bert and Morris's contracts rhat no one wanted the job with what we could afford. We dug our own grave. 

Pig Benis

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 24, 2024, 08:41 AMSo we are mad that he said but all agree it's true?

I get there is a time and place for saying things. This is more or less just fuel to the fire. It gives you one more thing to complain about. No one else in the country has said a word about it.

No. It was Chad-level stupid and is completely indefensible. It's not "one more thing" for me to complain about. It's what made me turn on him for good. Prior to that I genuinely liked the guy but thought he had probably hit his ceiling. Now I think he's a retarded crybaby waiting on his buyout.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.