Razorback Football

[SwahiliSteve]

You live in an alternate reality.

no I think that's you. Anyone that has to reiterate over and over again to strangers on a message board how rich and great they are are probably sitting in their parents basement day trading and jacking off all day.

[Lurk]

So Lurk, HRW, SS and the rest can ruin every thread and hurl ridiculous insults with impunity. Got it.

They may be ridiculous, but they do seem to have had the desired result.

[Third_down_draw]

This is the correct answer. No one else wanted him. His market value was well below the average because of that. Hunter got played badly by Sexton.

You know these ADs, coaches and their agents are all hanging out, lighting cigars with the kickbacks, contracts and payouts they got and laughing about fleecing the hayseeds once again.

[BleedinRed]

Maybe when he was first hired, but there is zero chance after a couple of years he still believed that.

I don't know what he believed.  Neither do you.  So hating the guy based on what you don't know to be true seems stupid.  

[HogOfWar]

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Agree with this.  With the benefit of hindsight on my part, when he hired Sexton and asked for more money, I would have told him no and that his contract would not be renewed, because the success wasn't his.  I don't know why Hunter Yurachek would ever do business with a Sexton managed coach again.

This is the correct answer. No one else wanted him. His market value was well below the average because of that. Hunter got played badly by Sexton.

💯 Hunter is an idiot.

[HOGSRUNWILD]

I don't know what he believed.  Neither do you.  So hating the guy based on what you don't know to be true seems stupid. 

I don't hate him. I just think he is a lying, lazy piece of shit.  Oh, and yeah, he knew after a couple of seasons...

[bigpig]

If you want a silver lining, HY giving Sam that ridiculous contract on 2021 basically told every prospective coach that whatever we pay on hiring day is nothing compared to what we'll give after a single above average season.

That, plus keeping him around long after it was clear he wasn't going to cut it should tell possible coaches that they won't be axed after a single below average season.


I don't know how much of a silver lining that is, but there you go.

[The Whyte Boar]

Meh...you can tell how a lot of people are going to so before they get their shots.  As Colin Cowherd has said, "Lifelong assistants are lifelong assistants for a reason."  Sam was about to retire never even having been a coordinator.  He did about like you would expect a 60 year old position coach would do.

[passed]

Y'all give Pittman too much credit for the 9-4 season. If it wasn't for Barry Odom, Briles and Morris's recruiting, it wouldn't have happened.

If Pittman was responsible for the turnaround, he wouldn't have been fired. He would not have let the slide start in 2022 and continue on.

Like others have said, he had no vision and didn't know what the hell to do.

Well, I was speaking from HY perspective, apologies if that was unclear. 

However, we as fans also can't just pick and choose where/when we apply responsibility.  He's either ultimately responsible or he isn't.  Is he not responsible for picking the other coaches?  Coaching the players he "inherited" also?  If we can say he's to blame for the failure based on the results of his coaching hires and the recruits they pull in... How can we not then also give him credit for the successes?  He's either ultimately responsible for failure or success, or he isn't. 

Sure, we can see over time that his successes may have been due to someone else's players and his recruiting sucks, or maybe a key assistant that made things work (after they've left and it falls apart or gets worse), and then say well this new assistant is shit... But then, isn't the HC responsible for that?  Shouldn't he also get credit when he chooses wisely?  We may ultimately determine objectively that he is not an overall good coach, and that he lucked out under certain conditions... But to strip the positive from the overall, in favor of the purely negative, when applying a standard of authority is disingenuous and logically inconsistent.  He's either culpable for all of it or not.

[BleedinRed]

To conclude this back and forth conversation:

1) We universally agree HY is retarded

2) We are split 80/20 on SP being a morally bankrupt POS with the 80 being for and the 20 being against

3) We universally will abandon the program if HN is hired in any capacity

4) We universally are excited to see BMFP back on the sideline as the head corch. 

[Zoso]

To conclude this back and forth conversation:

1) We universally agree HY is retarded

2) We are split 80/20 on SP being a morally bankrupt POS with the 80 being for and the 20 being against

3) We universally will abandon the program if HN is hired in any capacity

4) We universally are excited to see BMFP back on the sideline as the head corch. 

Pretty much this. Can we move the infighting to complete crap or some shit? I just read through 3 pages trying to get info on defensive coaching and all I get is whose richer or whose dick is bigger.

Can we talk football please?

[vegashog]

yeah, should have just left the other thread open for all this.

[DrMongoose]

The buyout was dumb but that is on the AD

IN THIS BOOK

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-price-armen-keteyianjohn-talty?variant=43044172628002

It reveals sexton went hard after Sam, also some talk (not in the book) his then agent was soliciting potential clients who also happened to be on the opposing team at a road game.

After all the high fives and handjobs he was getting for the 9 win season, he did what every coach Arkansas gives a new deal (and a really bad one for the school if they beat teasip)  does and let it go to his head thinking the hard work was over and got lazy.

Nevertheless I guess the good news is that after almost 8 years on the job the AD who admitted the coach he fired didn't have the resources to win and seemed to lose the team which played its two worst and uninspired games after that same AD said the program was not positioned for success is now going to come up with a plan to fund the football program so it can compete in the sec and have success while also leading the search for the new coach.

That's gold Jerry.

[TC]

Nevertheless I guess the good news is that after almost 8 years on the job the AD who admitted the coach he fired didn't have the resources to win and seemed to lose the team which played its two worst and uninspired games after that same AD said the program was not positioned for success is now going to come up with a plan to fund the football program so it can compete in the sec and have success while also leading the search for the new coach.

That's a helluva sentence.

[HTL]

That's a helluva sentence.

[FNG]

That's a helluva sentence.

Downright Faulkneresque.

[RPL]

Downright Faulkneresque.

He's a big fan.

[Hogfan58]

After watching the SEC games, I think the only team we could beat is Kentucky.

[bigpig]

After watching the SEC games, I think the only team we could beat is Kentucky.

Before the team laid down and quit we were one offensive fumble away from beating #4 Ole Miss.

[Borenutz]

After watching the SEC games, I think the only team we could beat is Kentucky.

Sheeit. You wish we could beat Kensucky. They'd push our shit in pre-petrino HC.