Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

Started by animal, Mar 08, 2023, 07:47 PM

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Apr 09, 2024, 09:29 AMAnd I'm perfectly fine with the latter, if that was what happened. We get a coach that can get the job done (or at the very least put us in a much better position of strength than Muss left us in for when we have to do this all again in a few years) and make contracts around the league a little more expensive so that it hopefully tightens the purse strings in other sports. Win win allaround.

Plus, if it works out, maybe it convinces one of the major boosters to give it a try in football. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

animal

I think Muss was quietly pushed out the door especially when it was apparent he was halfway out the door. 

They weren't going to pony up to a coach that hit his ceiling in their estimation is what it tells me. I think whatever went down didn't sit well with certain people with fuck you money but this was a disconnect that probably started as much as a couple years ago.

Another aspect of Cal is don't underestimate his ability to get big money on board...could potentially sway some Walton's to even give a fuck.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BASS

To follow up animals post without quoting it,

Cal seems like he could sell ketchup Popsicles to ladies wearing white gloves.
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
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Trigger7672

Quote from: BASS on Apr 09, 2024, 12:00 PMTo follow up animals post without quoting it,

Cal seems like he could sell ketchup Popsicles to ladies wearing white gloves.

Someone posted this on reddit and I thought it was pretty good...

Thoughts on Cal from a Memphis fan and Hog supporter

I'm a Memphis alum and lifelong Tiger basketball fan. However, both parents and many other relatives are Arkansas grads so I've always pulled for the Hogs.

First off, great hire! I don't think Yurachek could have done better and he deserves a lot of credit. This is a bold hire that I think will pay off.

I was in the front row for the full John Calipari experience at Memphis. Good, Bad, and everything in between. So as a PSA I'd like to give some idea of what you can expect in the coming weeks, months, and years.

Cal will win you over quickly. I have never before or since seen someone with such a gift of persuasion. He would be the top salesperson in any industry in the world. In fact, when boiled down, that's really what he is...a salesperson. He has just chosen to apply it in basketball.

Cal has no shame. He will repeat demonstrably false statements over and over until you start to question reality. He's the original gaslighter. This will grow old.

Cal will get players. Go back and take a look at his rosters for the last 20 years at Memphis and UK. It's actually quite striking that he's only won one national championship with that slew of talent. Put some of that Tyson/Walmart money behind him and watch out!

Cal will disappoint you. He will lose games that he shouldn't. He can get out coached, and his teams tend to have the same weaknesses year after year.

He's probably got another 5-6 good years left and NOBODY holds a grudge like Cal. It will end badly. It has everywhere else he's been. This will be no exception. But he may have just enough left in the tank for one more NC.

Cornhogio

How often does a coach leaving a school end well? 
Never squat with your spurs on!

animal

Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 09, 2024, 01:38 PMHow often does a coach leaving a school end well? 
Kentucky's probably doing cartwheels I mean Cal is a washed up coach but he's our washed up coach now.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Borenutz

Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 09, 2024, 01:38 PMHow often does a coach leaving a school end well? 

He's likely done coaching after here anyway. We have plenty of experience handling coaches leaving on bad terms either way.

piglosopher

#1047
He's still a legend, there's no bigger name alive in college basketball. It's a win off the court and for the razorback basketball brand more than anything. Instant impact in legitimacy, recognition, recruiting, fund raising, you name it. Cal is good as it gets there.

That said, he probably will mirror his last 5 years at Kentucky. I do hope differently and he comes in with a fresh strategy, less one and dones and more utilizing the transfer portal. If he can model our teams to look like UConn, yeah that'd be great. Who wouldn't want that.


BASS

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 12:18 PMSomeone posted this on reddit and I thought it was pretty good...

Thoughts on Cal from a Memphis fan and Hog supporter

I'm a Memphis alum and lifelong Tiger basketball fan. However, both parents and many other relatives are Arkansas grads so I've always pulled for the Hogs.

First off, great hire! I don't think Yurachek could have done better and he deserves a lot of credit. This is a bold hire that I think will pay off.

I was in the front row for the full John Calipari experience at Memphis. Good, Bad, and everything in between. So as a PSA I'd like to give some idea of what you can expect in the coming weeks, months, and years.

Cal will win you over quickly. I have never before or since seen someone with such a gift of persuasion. He would be the top salesperson in any industry in the world. In fact, when boiled down, that's really what he is...a salesperson. He has just chosen to apply it in basketball.

Cal has no shame. He will repeat demonstrably false statements over and over until you start to question reality. He's the original gaslighter. This will grow old.

Cal will get players. Go back and take a look at his rosters for the last 20 years at Memphis and UK. It's actually quite striking that he's only won one national championship with that slew of talent. Put some of that Tyson/Walmart money behind him and watch out!

Cal will disappoint you. He will lose games that he shouldn't. He can get out coached, and his teams tend to have the same weaknesses year after year.

He's probably got another 5-6 good years left and NOBODY holds a grudge like Cal. It will end badly. It has everywhere else he's been. This will be no exception. But he may have just enough left in the tank for one more NC.

It's like this guy was in my head reading my thoughts on Cal.

If we get a couple final fours and a title out of it, he can burn it down on the way out the door. We'll recover.
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

The Cowboy Tiger

The phenomenon of other fans thinking they need to warn us about a coach is really tired.
I'm just a dark guy from a den of iniquity.

Don't go away mad.  Just go away.

Trigger7672

Quote from: Cornhogio on Apr 09, 2024, 01:38 PMHow often does a coach leaving a school end well? 

Roy Williams.

DirkPiggler

Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

animal

The modern reality is going to hit hard when popular coaches make their exit the players will be hitting the exit too. I know of Arkansas and Louisville that got that criteria currently and probably others.

Then you'll start seeing players getting butt hurt when said former coach or new coach doesn't give them the time of day.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

bigpig

Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Apr 09, 2024, 02:07 PMThe phenomenon of other fans thinking they need to warn us about a coach is really tired.

No kidding. I was telling every Ole Miss fan I could find that they were getting a real bonafide SEC coach in Houston Nutt and that his time there would be an experience they'd never forget.

Then I walked away cackling madly.
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Lurk

Watch basketball salaries go through the roof. I hope Donovan turns them down just to cause churn in the college ranks. Coaching and players.


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Carpe DeHam

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 09, 2024, 12:18 PM....and his teams tend to have the same weaknesses year after year.


What are his team's same weaknesses year after year?

animal

Quote from: Carpe DeHam on Apr 09, 2024, 03:30 PMWhat are his team's same weaknesses year after year?
They don't win natty's?
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it


piglosopher

Fuck Chad for putting his alcohol brain damaged buddy up for mockery on the internet.

Spiderham

Bob Huggins said he would walk to Lexington for the UK job.
Mainly because his drivers license is suspended at the moment.   :D
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