Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 17, 2024, 07:52 AMThe list of people who have "won" at Missouri is:

Don Faurot
Gary Pinkel

Star Wars nerd?

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 17, 2024, 08:34 AMStar Wars nerd?

He's had one winning season out of four.  I'm pumping the brakes on calling him a winner just yet.
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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Texzilla on Sep 17, 2024, 08:21 AMThis right here.  And Sarkisian is doing what he learned from Saban on recruiting and player development in the lines and skill positions on both sides of the ball.  He runs hard practices and lots of film work.

The difference between being a great assistant coach and a great head coach is the difference between being a great employee and a great boss. Not everybody wants to own their own business, or is cut out for it. Being in charge is a whole different deal, personality wise.

There's plenty of great employees who worked for a great boss but didn't turn out to be great bosses themselves. (Stan Heath, John Pelphrey, Sean Sutton, sort of Bielema). Of course, sometimes someone can be both. (Kirby Smart, the JFB tree). But it's more rare.

DrMongoose

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 17, 2024, 07:52 AMMissouri is not, never has been, and never will be a better job than Florida.  That's just crazy talk.

The list of people who have "won" at Missouri is:

Don Faurot
Gary Pinkel.

Neither of them won at anywhere near the level of Spurrier or Meyer. 

The landscape may have changed, but it didn't move recruits out of the state of Florida and into Missouri. 

Right now it is, should it be - no, never but right now at this moment in timeit is.
Why is Florida not better? Why is Florida State a dumpster fire?
And Miami is one loss away from being atire fire too.

Crazy times we live in.

Watch Florida bring Meyer back.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

DirkPiggler

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Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 17, 2024, 09:00 AMRight now it is, should it be - no, never but right now at this moment in timeit is.
Why is Florida not better? Why is Florida State a dumpster fire?
And Miami is one loss away from being atire fire too.

Crazy times we live in.

Watch Florida bring Meyer back.

It's only better because Florida has made poor coaching hires.  Just like Missouri and Ole Miss are only better jobs than Arkansas today because of the disparity in the quality of coaches.  The inherent factors that make Florida (and Arkansas to a lesser degree) better than OM or Missouri have not changed.

Arkansas wasn't a better job than Alabama from 1998-2006, even though we were the better team on the field most of that time.  Nor was Arkansas a better job than Georgia or Tennessee in 2009-2011 in spite of the fact that we were more successful in the short term.  Those three always had a higher upside and more to offer the right coach...they just had a hard time finding the right leader.

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Pig Benis

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Sep 17, 2024, 02:03 AMI don't agree with that. I don't know what Florida's NIL is compared to MU, but it's much easier to recruit at a high level tban MU.

I don't know about Mizzou but Chris Doering was on the radio yesterday saying that the Grove Collective is far better than Florida's. He even said that he sees no reason for Lane to leave Ole Miss for FL at this point in time and doesn't think he would.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

DrMongoose

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Quote from: DirkPiggler on Sep 17, 2024, 09:08 AMIt's only better because Florida has made poor coaching hires.  Just like Missouri and Ole Miss are only better jobs than Arkansas today because of the disparity in the quality of coaches.  The inherent factors that make Florida (and Arkansas to a lesser degree) better than OM or Missouri have not changed.

Arkansas wasn't a better job than Alabama from 1998-2006, even though we were the better team on the field most of that time.  Nor was Arkansas a better job than Georgia or Tennessee in 2009-2011 in spite of the fact that we were more successful in the short term.  Those three always had a higher upside and more to offer the right coach...they just had a hard time finding the right leader.



agreed, it has been all about the coach in college but that's changing, maybe
Bama has not had to have great NIL because kids wanted to be coached by Saban.
Ole Miss and Mizzou have better NIL than florida because they have to to get players where as Florida thinks well we're surrounded by talent we'll just cherry pick but it doesn't work that way with every school now coming into the state.

If NIL was the answer then explain why aTm can't win. Teasip has been wandering the desert for years until now - crazy how Sark is the guy to win there. So many the coach is still a factor.  Wait, Ole Miss is just gonna be the new aTm until a Lane coached team actually beats a top 10 opponent.

I did find it interesting that Hunter sounded the alarm on collectives then later said we had a football collective, we do?

Also it's telling that football is having NIL issues while the national media keep harping on the perception that Arkansas Basketball is leaps and bounds above everyone nationally in NIL.

Say the NIL money comes in trucks tomorrow and the players roll in -- is Sam Pittman the guy you trust to be your head coach with that talent? Even with NIL there is still no guarantee we are going to be competitive with top 6 SEC schools and now we're surrounded on all sides of the state by SEC Schools.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

vegashog

Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 17, 2024, 04:16 PMWait, Ole Miss is just gonna be the new aTm until a Lane coached team actually beats a top 10 opponent.
kiffin is going to ny6 bowls while we go to memphis or stay at home, and nil is playing a huge part of it.

who has the better shot at making the 12 team playoff this year? arkansas fans would give their left nut to be in that position, top 10 wins or not.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 17, 2024, 04:16 PMagreed, it has been all about the coach in college but that's changing, maybe
Bama has not had to have great NIL because kids wanted to be coached by Saban.
Ole Miss and Mizzou have better NIL than florida because they have to to get players where as Florida thinks well we're surrounded by talent we'll just cherry pick but it doesn't work that way with every school now coming into the state.

NIL can boost your ceiling, but coaching sets the floor. 

If NIL was the answer then explain why aTm can't win. Teasip has been wandering the desert for years until now - crazy how Sark is the guy to win there. So many the coach is still a factor.  Wait, Ole Miss is just gonna be the new aTm until a Lane coached team actually beats a top 10 opponent.

I did find it interesting that Hunter sounded the alarm on collectives then later said we had a football collective, we do?

Also it's telling that football is having NIL issues while the national media keep harping on the perception that Arkansas Basketball is leaps and bounds above everyone nationally in NIL.

Say the NIL money comes in trucks tomorrow and the players roll in -- is Sam Pittman the guy you trust to be your head coach with that talent? Even with NIL there is still no guarantee we are going to be competitive with top 6 SEC schools and now we're surrounded on all sides of the state by SEC Schools.



I can answer the aTm part.   It's because they're fucking weirdos. 

To get a young urban kid with options to go there, you have to pay them.   When you overpay you get issues like we had last year...players get content.  And aTm can't afford to be disciplinarians because kids on their team are just looking for an excuse to leave that shithole and get away from those goat fuckers.
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animal

Does anyone know how these NIL payments are disbursed? Because it sure looked like mofos didn't get paid last week. :stache:
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

vegashog

gruden tells cbs sports he's interested in coaching a college team. just sayin'.

nobville will have 100 page thread about this.

buff2.0

What color tie was he wearing when he said it?  I remember back when I was a student at UA and those nobville idiots were jizzing all over each other that Gruden was meeting the PTB at Powerhouse late at night to negotiate terms.  Got bored and drove by there - lights out not a car to be seen.  The mods told me I must have just missed the meeting.

Oh, shit, never mind.  Lane to Florida and Gruden to Ole Miss confirmed.

https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1836414291118805287
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

animal

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 10:57 AMgruden tells cbs sports he's interested in coaching a college team. just sayin'.

nobville will have 100 page thread about this.


Gruden has surely healed from all those racist thoughts racing thru his head and onto an email by now. But getting hired at Arkansas would make heads explode at ESPN. Cherry on top if he keeps Petrino on staff.







"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

buff2.0

Quote from: animal on Sep 18, 2024, 11:05 AMCherry on top if he keeps Petrino on staff.


The pussy brothers of the Ozark mountains.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

vegashog

i thought the emails were about him calling a bunch of people gay, including goodell. and he didn't like female refs.


mde114

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 11:13 AMi thought the emails were about him calling a bunch of people gay, including goodell. and he didn't like female refs.



I guess I can forget about an NFL career.

animal

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 11:13 AMi thought the emails were about him calling a bunch of people gay, including goodell. and he didn't like female refs.


Might have been I can't remember
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

jdcatty

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 11:13 AMi thought the emails were about him calling a bunch of people gay, including goodell. and he didn't like female refs.



That's my memory also.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

piglosopher

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 18, 2024, 10:57 AMgruden tells cbs sports he's interested in coaching a college team. just sayin'.

nobville will have 100 page thread about this.

He's buddies with John Daly!

He spoke at the touchdown club!

Gruden confirmed.

piglosopher

He's interested in college because he's blacklisted in the NFL. Zero chance Goodell is going to allow him back. Neither's ego would allow it.