Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[Lurk]

My guess is those programs have to completely overhaul their funding efforts and maybe it's not overly advantageous anymore for some of those that were providing the funding from before to continue into the future thru legitimate means. e.g. it was dirty money

And some would argue that Nick Saban is to be taken at his word that they weren't cheating at all. I don't believe it but when you have the kind of credibility he carried that can have a huge impact.

I loved when Shane Gillis called Saban out for cheating.

[DirkPiggler]

My guess is those programs have to completely overhaul their funding efforts and maybe it's not overly advantageous anymore for some of those that were providing the funding from before to continue into the future thru legitimate means. e.g. it was dirty money

And some would argue that Nick Saban is to be taken at his word that they weren't cheating at all. I don't believe it but when you have the kind of credibility he carried that can have a huge impact.

I can believe that by the end of Saban's run Alabama was cheating less than they had in the past.  They didn't have to cheat as blatantly to recruit well when they had the best coach in the game.  But they absolutely built their program on rampant cheating.  That includes Saban's rise to prominence there.

[vegashog]

after reading a couple of bama boards i think what mccarron was trying to say is that they don't have a yellawood or tyson or a small group of big dicks who give beucoup bucks. they rely on some mid level guys and a lot of ordinary fans to make the nil pot.

they'll give after winning the sec and/or playing for national championships. after going 8-4, not so much.

[DirkPiggler]

after reading a couple of bama boards i think what mccarron was trying to say is that they don't have a yellawood or tyson or a small group of big dicks who give beucoup bucks. they rely on some mid level guys and a lot of ordinary fans to make the nil pot.

they'll give after winning the sec and/or playing for national championships. after going 8-4, not so much.

It's the same reason why Ole Miss has had their recent run of relative success.

They can't rely on billionaires and corporations to fund their program because they don't have any (or very few if any).  Instead of hitting up the CEO or heirs of the founders of Fortune 500 companies, they go to the personal injury lawyer in Greenville, the tractor dealer in Itta Bena, or the guy who owns twelve liquor stores in greater Jackson.  Those types are much better fits for the NIL era, as they don't have to justify the cost to shareholders. 

We have those types too, but Hunter is either too stupid or too lazy to cultivate them.  And honestly I can understand if it's the latter.  Having all that money concentrated within twenty miles of campus for years made fund raising easier for Arkansas than it should have been in a state like ours. 

[Pig Benis]

after reading a couple of bama boards i think what mccarron was trying to say is that they don't have a yellawood or tyson or a small group of big dicks who give beucoup bucks. they rely on some mid level guys and a lot of ordinary fans to make the nil pot.

they'll give after winning the sec and/or playing for national championships. after going 8-4, not so much.

Correct. They're stuck with him. No one outside of about 5 schools can afford to pay their buyouts now that revenue sharing kicked in on top of NIL spending. They'll start the FOIA phone record requests soon if they haven't already and/or give him the Harsin treatment.

[DrMongoose]

Kiffin probably has better nil at ole miss than Alabama, which benefited from guys wanting to play for Saban then nfl in lieu of nil.

With schools having to use $20 mill for players, I don't think we will see a lot of buyouts paid. Add to that the new staff cost, it is too much for a vast majority of schools who are probably paying down some debts as well I.e. north end zone.

Will be interesting to see moving forward if head coach and AD salaries and buyouts stay as high as they are now

[The Whyte Boar]

Good football is a boon to a university.  Ole Miss is raking in out-of-state tuition now with kids from all over going there for the lifestyle.  I know half a dozen kids over there when a few years ago it wasn't even on the radar for kids around here.  It's the hot school right now affluent white kids looking to have a good time.

[RPL]

Alabama has ALWAYS cheated to get where they are. Now that everyone can pay, they'll have a harder time getting back. You hate to see it.

So, we should have an easier time to get where we ain't?

Yay!  We're going to a Natty!

[mde114]

Good football is a boon to a university.  Ole Miss is raking in out-of-state tuition now with kids from all over going there for the lifestyle.  I know half a dozen kids over there when a few years ago it wasn't even on the radar for kids around here.  It's the hot school right now affluent white kids looking to have a good time.

You sure Ole Miss is charging out-of-state tuition for those kids? Probably waived it like at UA.

[The Whyte Boar]

You sure Ole Miss is charging out-of-state tuition for those kids? Probably waived it like at UA.

For a lot of them they are.  They waive some with the grades and the scores but not all. 

[Borenutz]

Good football is a boon to a university.  Ole Miss is raking in out-of-state tuition now with kids from all over going there for the lifestyle.  I know half a dozen kids over there when a few years ago it wasn't even on the radar for kids around here.  It's the hot school right now affluent white kids looking to have a good time.

Not saying it's not a boon, but it appears Arkansas keeps seeing the "boon" as well and there's hasn't been much football to be excited about.

[The Whyte Boar]

Not saying it's not a boon, but it appears Arkansas keeps seeing the "boon" as well and there's hasn't been much football to be excited about.

Thank the sororities and Rush-tok for that.  Arkansas finished first in this year's Rush-tok rankings.  Our sorority bid day is becoming legendary.

[obijuana]

NIL has shifted the dynamic from seeking the best option to go to the NFL (Alabama) to the best option for NIL (not Alabama).

Programs willing to spend on both will dominate. Programs like Arkansas will masturbate.

[DrMongoose]

NIL has shifted the dynamic from seeking the best option to go to the NFL (Alabama) to the best option for NIL (not Alabama).

Programs willing to spend on both will dominate. Programs like Arkansas will masturbate.

true

amazing we struggle to recruit football players in the two states the majority of enrolled students are from.

[piglosopher]

Still a long ass way from home to Fayetteville for everyone, not just players.

[mde114]

NIL has shifted the dynamic from seeking the best option to go to the NFL (Alabama) to the best option for NIL (not Alabama).

Programs willing to spend on both will dominate. Programs like Arkansas will masturbate.

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[Texzilla]

For students in north Texas, it's faster to Fayetteville, and cheaper than driving to Lubbock. Or south.  It's why UA one Oklahoma schools get a lot of Texas kids.

[DrMongoose]

Virginia Tech will be the first opening.

[animal]

Virginia Tech will be the first opening.

Shane Beamer may be the next one to get the gig but the question may be is Va Tech even a better job than South Carolina. Arguably it isn't.

[FNG]

Virginia Tech will be the first opening.

I dunno; they gave Fuente 6 years and he went 24-23 overall and 0-1 in bowls his last 4 years.