NIL

[jdcatty]

Is anybody here an actual member of Arkansas Edge?  I think I am going to join it on a low level just to see what it is they send out.  And then maybe bump it up to a slightly higher level in a few months to see what changes.  An experiment of sorts.

[Hizog]

I wish the SEC and Big 10 would just switch to player salaries and have a fixed rate. Possibly even add merit increases for the number of years you're at your current program to curb some of the transferring.

I'm sure that's not realistic, but it makes sense in my head.

[The Whyte Boar]

I wish the SEC and Big 10 would just switch to player salaries and have a fixed rate. Possibly even add merit increases for the number of years you're at your current program to curb some of the transferring.

I'm sure that's not realistic, but it makes sense in my head.

Can't do it without legislation or a player's union and collective bargaining agreement.  Otherwise it is collusion and an impermissible restraint on trade.  Anti-trust laws be like that.

[vegashog]

Is anybody here an actual member of Arkansas Edge?  I think I am going to join it on a low level just to see what it is they send out.  And then maybe bump it up to a slightly higher level in a few months to see what changes.  An experiment of sorts.

i've been donating for a while, not baller status by any means. since i don't live in arkansas, most of the perks don't mean much.

[Hizog]

Can't do it without legislation or a player's union and collective bargaining agreement.  Otherwise it is collusion and an impermissible restraint on trade.  Anti-trust laws be like that.

Wishful thinking.

Like I was saying, I wish there was legislation or a CBA that would allow the SEC and Big 10...

[DirkPiggler]

I wish the SEC and Big 10 would just switch to player salaries and have a fixed rate. Possibly even add merit increases for the number of years you're at your current program to curb some of the transferring.

I'm sure that's not realistic, but it makes sense in my head.

That still wouldn't change anything.  The schools that cheat (or did under the old rules) will still find ways to get extra benefits to their players above and beyond the agreed upon amounts.  And like TWB said, it would have to be collectively bargained. 

At that point it's completely transitioned to professional sports.

[The Whyte Boar]

That still wouldn't change anything.  The schools that cheat (or did under the old rules) will still find ways to get extra benefits to their players above and beyond the agreed upon amounts.  And like TWB said, it would have to be collectively bargained. 

At that point it's completely transitioned to professional sports.

It's much worse than professional sports.  Professional sports have leagues and rules designed to promote fair competition so that everyone stays engaged and the league survives.  This isn't that.  This won't survive.  You'll start to see schools dropping out of the rat race and going to a D III model eventually.  Everyone still has hope of a fix or that it will settle down, but if it becomes clear it never will, college sports will largely die.

[BleedinRed]

It's much worse than professional sports.  Professional sports have leagues and rules designed to promote fair competition so that everyone stays engaged and the league survives.  This isn't that.  This won't survive.  You'll start to see schools dropping out of the rat race and going to a D III model eventually.  Everyone still has hope of a fix or that it will settle down, but if it becomes clear it never will, college sports will largely die.

Interesting thought but what if the ultimate goal by the Alabama's and Texas' is to eventually only have 35-40 "D1" schools and everyone else is forced to drop down to the lower levels.  Its a great way to create a College "NFL" system and then they get to keep all the inflows of revenue for themselves.

[The Whyte Boar]

Interesting thought but what if the ultimate goal by the Alabama's and Texas' is to eventually only have 35-40 "D1" schools and everyone else is forced to drop down to the lower levels.  Its a great way to create a College "NFL" system and then they get to keep all the inflows of revenue for themselves.

That will probably happen but it is still going to take legislation and/or a collective bargaining agreement to get there.

[DirkPiggler]

That will probably happen but it is still going to take legislation and/or a collective bargaining agreement to get there.

It will be much easier to collectively bargain with 105 athletes times 40-ish schools than the same number times 150 (or however many D1 there are now).  Especially given the divergence in interests between the haves and have nots.

[The Whyte Boar]

It will be much easier to collectively bargain with 105 athletes times 40-ish schools than the same number times 150 (or however many D1 there are now).  Especially given the divergence in interests between the haves and have nots.

Yeah, but there all kinds of issues to resolve first.  I mean for instance some of the freshmen will be 17 when school starts.  That's not even old enough to contract. 

There will have to be legislation and lots of issues resolved before we get there.  And it will take years.  And right now, I don't really see anyone even trying. 

[jdcatty]

i've been donating for a while, not baller status by any means. since i don't live in arkansas, most of the perks don't mean much.

I just joined at the $50 per month level-- one level above the minimum.  Going to keep it there for a few months and then kick it up in the middle of football season to see what if any real difference it makes.

[Usafhawg]

Yeah, but there all kinds of issues to resolve first.  I mean for instance some of the freshmen will be 17 when school starts.  That's not even old enough to contract. 

There will have to be legislation and lots of issues resolved before we get there.  And it will take years.  And right now, I don't really see anyone even trying. 

Aren't some of the MLB players 17 or younger when they're drafted?

[DirkPiggler]

Aren't some of the MLB players 17 or younger when they're drafted?

They aren't part of the union until they are on the 40-man, unless something has changed recently.

[The Whyte Boar]

They aren't part of the union until they are on the 40-man, unless something has changed recently.

Baseball has an antitrust exemption too.  Nothing else has nor likely will ever get that.

[Keyser Soooie]

There most certainly isn't any guarantee that having a stellar NIL program will lead to the playoffs or 10 win seasons every year. Proper player evaluations still matter.

 However, NOT having a substantial NIL program will guarantee that ours or any other program remains at the bottom.

[vegashog]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/candid-coaches-which-programs-do-you-believe-have-the-best-nil-situations/

[obijuana]

Since these players are getting NIL make them pay their own way through school. Divert scholarship money to kids with no athletic talent. That's something I could get on board with.

[vegashog]

Since these players are getting NIL make them pay their own way through school. Divert scholarship money to kids with no athletic talent. That's something I could get on board with.

music lessons, tutoring, social media, or any student that has a job while going to school. that should apply also, right?

[Lurk]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/candid-coaches-which-programs-do-you-believe-have-the-best-nil-situations/

Surely that's because of basketball.