NIL

[buff2.0]

Hootie's boxers ftw

If he were still here we'd be trying to sell Nutt Rags like Ole Miss.

I still wouldn't put it past the school to try to celebrate him by doing just that "for NIL".

[Mazeppa Pompazoidi]

If he were still here we'd be trying to sell Nutt Rags like Ole Miss.

I still wouldn't put it past the school to try to celebrate him by doing just that "for NIL".

We could put him in a dunking booth, but instead of water, empty a couple of full porta-potties into the tank.  Charge $100 a throw.  Our NIL problems would be over.

[buff2.0]

We could put him in a dunking booth, but instead of water, empty a couple of full porta-potties into the tank.  Charge $100 a throw.  Our NIL problems would be over.

"Buff, how did you afford so many tickets?"

"I took out a second mortgage."

"You know you're supposed to hit the red target. You can't win by throwing the balls directly at Mr. Nutt's throat."

"I don't care."

[DirkPiggler]

"Buff, how did you afford so many tickets?"

"I took out a second mortgage."

"You know you're supposed to hit the red target. You can't win by throwing the balls directly at Mr. Nutt's throat."

"I don't care."

I don't win.  Humanity wins.

[aaron]

We should start a tradition to rush the field after every win. Fuck em. Except for those damn fines.

[DirkPiggler]

We should start a tradition to rush the field after every win. Fuck em. Except for those damn fines.

See, this is where I'd like to see our legislature enact some goofy shit laws.

Make it against the law for any conference to fine a member institution within the state without unanimous consent of both houses of the state legislature, with the fine for violation or withholding revenue equal to double the amount of the announced fine.  Also make it a felony for any member of that conference to enforce any punitive actions relating to non-payment of fines or any result of this law, with the fine being equal to the conferences full revenue from the previous year (payable within five business days) and imprisonment without bail for the conference's chief executive.

Also add in a provision that requires any game influenced by an obviously incorrect call (as determined by the school itself) to be overturned if the result of the game was within one score. 

And death by torture for Marc Curles.  Just because.

Before one of you submits this to Message Board Geniuses, understand that I realize this isn't feasible.  It's just a sampling of how things would be if I became Dictator for Life.

[buff2.0]

Department of Education says Title IX applies to revenue sharing payments to athletes.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43443976/dept-education-says-title-ix-applies-payments-athletes

"However, the Office for Civil Rights -- the division of the Department of Education that enforces Title IX law -- said in its memo Thursday that those future payments should be considered "athletic financial assistance" and therefore must be shared proportionally between men and women athletes."

[hit_that_line]

Department of Education says Title IX applies to revenue sharing payments to athletes.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43443976/dept-education-says-title-ix-applies-payments-athletes

"However, the Office for Civil Rights -- the division of the Department of Education that enforces Title IX law -- said in its memo Thursday that those future payments should be considered "athletic financial assistance" and therefore must be shared proportionally between men and women athletes."

Also applies to NIl collectives lol.

[animal]

That just sounds like what we all knew would happen...they are slitting own throats by forcing these universities to rake in all this cash meant for Football and Basketball only to give it to non-revenue generating sports (Women's sports) for equality. I assume this could be the nail in the coffin of the NCAA but perhaps even still someone could argue that these laws could impact private coalition sports leagues consisting of student-aged athletes competing in a wide array of sports akin to the current NCAA model but with less regulations




 

[DirkPiggler]

That just sounds like what we all knew would happen...they are slitting own throats by forcing these universities to rake in all this cash meant for Football and Basketball only to give it to non-revenue generating sports (Women's sports) for equality. I assume this could be the nail in the coffin of the NCAA but perhaps even still someone could argue that these laws could impact private coalition sports leagues consisting of student-aged athletes competing in a wide array of sports akin to the current NCAA model but with less regulations




 

As long as they're tied to the schools, and as long as those schools accept federal money (Pell Grants, federally funded student loans, etc), Title IX will likely apply.

Then again, one of Trump's promises was to disband the Department of Education.  There may not be any agency left to enforce this bullshit.

[The Whyte Boar]

I said when the California legislature kicked all this off that the goal was to kill NCAA football because it's fans were mostly white males.

There isn't much way to get around this without comprehensive legislation on several fronts and even with Republicans in control, I'm not sure the will is there for it.

The kids won't go back to an amateurism model.  There are all kinds of issues with direct payments.  The fans are losing interest and one has to believe big donor money will be running out eventually for all but a handful of schools.  And I wouldn't put it past thought that there will be some lawsuits about donors paying NIL and Title IX since it is so obviously pay-to-play without even much pretense of providing value to the payor. 

If comprehensive legislation doesn't fix it, this ends with kids playing minor league football in high school stadiums for peanuts and taking buses to Toledo, hoping for a call up to the NFL.

[BleedinRed]

I said when the California legislature kicked all this off that the goal was to kill NCAA football because it's fans were mostly white males.

You are going to have to explain this statement.  How did you get to NIL being a race thing?

[Sus-Scrofa]

The kids won't go back to an amateurism model.  There are all kinds of issues with direct payments.  The fans are losing interest and one has to believe big donor money will be running out eventually for all but a handful of schools.

I wonder if there would ever be a market for another level of football within the D1 schools.

Basically, the hockey club team system on steroids.  Figure out scholarships, all players must agree not to take NIL money.  It would obviously be lower talent, but could be entertaining.

Would never work, but the more college football becomes a professional league, it seems like there's room for something there involving actual amateur football.

[The Whyte Boar]

You are going to have to explain this statement.  How did you get to NIL being a race thing?

The most Marxist legislature in the country kicked this off when they made NIL the law in California.  There was plenty of commentary at the time about the exploitation of the black athlete. 

[The Whyte Boar]

I wonder if there would ever be a market for another level of football within the D1 schools.

Basically, the hockey club team system on steroids.  Figure out scholarships, all players must agree not to take NIL money.  It would obviously be lower talent, but could be entertaining.

Would never work, but the more college football becomes a professional league, it seems like there's room for something there involving actual amateur football.

NIL will eventually prove what I said all along.  Fans are there because the kids play for their schools, not for the kids.  Put a bunch of high school kids in Razorback uniforms and they would still draw 50k fans.  Put the best college age kids in the country in Toledo Mudhen minor league football uniforms and they won't draw 5k a game. 

If we went to some model like the hockey model, college football would be diminished and fan support would suffer, but it would still draw millions more fans across the country than any kind of minor league professional league made up of great college age players.

[SwahiliSteve]

Does this mean the university will have to give money to the hockey team that they keep making money off of selling their jerseys but not funding? Assholes

[jdcatty]

Department of Education says Title IX applies to revenue sharing payments to athletes.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43443976/dept-education-says-title-ix-applies-payments-athletes

"However, the Office for Civil Rights -- the division of the Department of Education that enforces Title IX law -- said in its memo Thursday that those future payments should be considered "athletic financial assistance" and therefore must be shared proportionally between men and women athletes."

While not unexpected, this is going to make a fucked up situation even more fucked up.  I don't understand how private donations to individuals-- which is what many NIL arrangements are-- can be subject to Title IX.  I surely can't figure out how all this is going to work.

[The Whyte Boar]

While not unexpected, this is going to make a fucked up situation even more fucked up.  I don't understand how private donations to individuals-- which is what many NIL arrangements are-- can be subject to Title IX.  I surely can't figure out how all this is going to work.

It's a mess but some 145 IQ plaintiff's attorney can figure out an angle.   

[vegashog]

The most Marxist legislature in the country kicked this off when they made NIL the law in California.  There was plenty of commentary at the time about the exploitation of the black athlete. 

the california law was written so it wasn't going in effect until 2023. the purpose was so that the ncaa and congress could hammer out the details. they both failed.

among the first states to jump on it immediately were texas, florida, mississippi, all deep red.

and your racial bullshit is just that as white athletes have benefitted from nil every bit as much as anyone else.

[The Whyte Boar]

the california law was written so it wasn't going in effect until 2023. the purpose was so that the ncaa and congress could hammer out the details. they both failed.

among the first states to jump on it immediately were texas, florida, mississippi, all deep red.

and your racial bullshit is just that as white athletes have benefitted from nil every bit as much as anyone else.

Blah blah blah.  What's your IQ?  What does white players benefitting have to do with it?  That's like the biggest non sequitur I've seen.

The point was the Marxist in California felt that the entire structure of college sports was a racist construct that took advantage of minority athletes and they set about to blow it up.  And, of course, they pretty much have.

And yes, they knew that the legislatures of other college football states would be forced to follow suit or see all the athletes go to California. 

It was all entirely foreseeable.