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Show-Me Hog

It seems like a proper area for Congress to address, to me. While it might have better things to do (like declare war, or not, explicitly), this is something they should have tackled 3 years ago.

jdcatty

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 25, 2026, 02:14 PMIt seems like a proper area for Congress to address, to me. While it might have better things to do (like declare war, or not, explicitly), this is something they should have tackled 3 years ago.

I agree, and college athletics is definitely a multi-billion dollar industry
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 25, 2026, 02:14 PMIt seems like a proper area for Congress to address, to me. While it might have better things to do (like declare war, or not, explicitly), this is something they should have tackled 3 years ago.
Why should Congress concern themselves with college athletics?

That's a serious question.  Not trying to be snarky. 

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 25, 2026, 10:44 PMWhy should Congress concern themselves with college athletics?

That's a serious question.  Not trying to be snarky. 

Because they're the only ones who can fix it?

Because every time the private institutions try to do something on their own a court strikes it down as "antitrust"?

And a law (Congress does laws) is the only way to deal with "antitrust"?

It seems pretty obvious to me.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 26, 2026, 02:38 AMBecause they're the only ones who can fix it?

Because every time the private institutions try to do something on their own a court strikes it down as "antitrust"?

And a law (Congress does laws) is the only way to deal with "antitrust"?

It seems pretty obvious to me.
I get the antitrust angle.  I guess what I don't understand is why Congress stepping into the shoes of the business (NCAA) and making specific business decision rules.  As you pointed out, there are already antitrust laws governing what can and can't be done.  

Isnt it up to the NCAA to define policies, procedures, etc that avoid braking the law?  

Said a different way, Congress doesn't step into Walmarts shoes and define the specifics of how retail is to be done or defines for NAPA and Autozone how the auto parts business should be run.  

I simply don't understand how it is Congressws job to define the rules of the road for a business or industry.  

Maybe that is the way it has always worked though.  I'm fairly, and obviously, ignorant on these things.  

Show-Me Hog

If Walmart wanted to have employment contracts, and courts kept saying Walmart you can't have employment contracts, it might be okay for Congress to say Walmart can have employment contracts. This particular situation seems that basic to me.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 26, 2026, 06:57 AMIf Walmart wanted to have employment contracts, and courts kept saying Walmart you can't have employment contracts, it might be okay for Congress to say Walmart can have employment contracts. This particular situation seems that basic to me.
I see what you're saying.

What really needs to happen is each university needs to be treated as an employer and each player needs to be treated as a W2 employee or a 1099 contractor.  All these issues go away.  

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 26, 2026, 07:44 AMI see what you're saying.

What really needs to happen is each university needs to be treated as an employer and each player needs to be treated as a W2 employee or a 1099 contractor.  All these issues go away. 

As much as I hate to say it, we also need to add collective bargaining to your list. 
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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 26, 2026, 07:44 AMI see what you're saying.

What really needs to happen is each university needs to be treated as an employer and each player needs to be treated as a W2 employee or a 1099 contractor.  All these issues go away. 

Yes all NIL money needs to be in conjunction with a contract. That just seems like basic logic.

There is a way for schools to get control of the portal, not NIL, if any of them had the balls to do it. But they'd all have to do it, or the crack would mean the thing would bust wide open again.

That's for the academic side to assert itself once more as more important than the athletic side. I realize that's probably a ridiculous notion. But if schools would stop admitting athletes specially, or stop admitting athletes who have been at two or three prior schools and have not shown significant progress toward a specific degree, that would cure the portal.

Probably a pipe dream.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 26, 2026, 08:40 AMYes all NIL money needs to be in conjunction with a contract. That just seems like basic logic.

There is a way for schools to get control of the portal, not NIL, if any of them had the balls to do it. But they'd all have to do it, or the crack would mean the thing would bust wide open again.

That's for the academic side to assert itself once more as more important than the athletic side. I realize that's probably a ridiculous notion. But if schools would stop admitting athletes specially, or stop admitting athletes who have been at two or three prior schools and have not shown significant progress toward a specific degree, that would cure the portal.

Probably a pipe dream.
Great point, assuming I am reading your comments correctly.  The academic side could just deny them admission.  That would cut the atheltes off at the knees.  That is something I hadn't thought of.

Sus-Scrofa

A Walton just spent a billion plus on an Indian cricket team.

What the actual frick?  Spend a few table scraps on the team down the road!

Olhickoryhog

There was an article in the Athletic this morning stating that most SEC football programs were spending 40 million this year on their roster.  It stated most expected to spend 45 million in 2027.  I know it's been stated many times, but I just don't see how this model is sustainable.   

jdcatty

Quote from: Olhickoryhog on Mar 30, 2026, 09:38 PMThere was an article in the Athletic this morning stating that most SEC football programs were spending 40 million this year on their roster.  It stated most expected to spend 45 million in 2027.  I know it's been stated many times, but I just don't see how this model is sustainable.   

I haven't seen anyone with any sense say it is sustainable.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

DrMongoose

Check your damn blood pressure!

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