Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[DirkPiggler]

Pittman has made comments that they will have more this year but hasn't given any details. Is that the new revenue money coming in that all schools get or is that in donations? 

Biddy has stated several times that we are near the bottom of the SEC in what we are paying. He knew OM paid a lot more for Paul last year than what we could've paid. He's close enough to the program for me to believe and has been transparent about the state of things

It's well known that tOSU had ~$25M last year. I suspect the top programs are going to be in that area.

I'm not overly worried about how much Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan and Georgia are paying.  We're not in those teams' league, and would just be overpaying for lesser talent. What I want to see is for us to at least be on par in spending among the Mississippi schools, Missouri, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Auburn.

Ole Miss's excessive spending this year is unsustainable for them.  They might get it for another year or two, but they just don't have enough wealth in their fan base to make it an every year thing.  And if Kiffin misses the playoff with that kind of payroll again, you're going to see their fans have the same "prove it" attitude before spending that we have now. 

[Feral]

Ole Miss's excessive spending this year is unsustainable for them.  They might get it for another year or two, but they just don't have enough wealth in their fan base to make it an every year thing.  And if Kiffin misses the playoff with that kind of payroll again, you're going to see their fans have the same "prove it" attitude before spending that we have now. 

Yeah, Ole Miss is one to watch.

Kiffin outright challenged their boosters and fans to ante up for the collective. They did, and Ole Miss turned in a 3 loss season (2 of which were to 2 of the worst teams in the conference).

At a certain point it's a dog who caught the car dynamic. You got the money and you didn't make the CFP or even Atlanta, what now?

[FNG]

I think using the term "elects" is somewhat misleading.  This guy has been in pain for months.

Yeah, Sam legitimately deserves much of the criticism he receives, but some of us are dangerously close to wandering into PDS/fatmanbad territory here.

[TC]

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What does it matter if you can't match what others are gonna pay? We have less NIL than damn near everyone in our conference.

Very similar to Pooh Paul last year. It was known that OM was offering him more than we could pay.

All this is speculation. You have no more of an idea why a kid leaves unless the kid (or his family) make it public.

Oh I agree that its speculation, but you just "guaranteed" those 3 at least are leaving for more money.

[Pig Benis]

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Oh I agree that its speculation, but you just "guaranteed" those 3 at least are leaving for more money.

Correct. No one knows shit. We don't know how much money we have and we don't know how much players are really making. The university/AD/coaches get to use NIL as an ongoing excuse for poor performance. I'm sure some of the concern is valid but there's zero transparency.

[Barton Fink]

Ok, I'll retract guarantee and say most likely. Better?

[TC]

Ok, I'll retract guarantee and say most likely. Better?

Not really, because like the rest of us you really have no idea. Like you said, you're speculating.

For example, the 3 players you said you think are leaving for more money..let's say they each made 100k. There's a "free" 200k to play with to at least attempt to keep the best of the 3, but Sam still couldn't keep him here? So at that point it sounds like it's more than just money. Like everything in life there are probably other nuances and factors at play.

Sam loves to use the "money" excuse because it's easy, when the truth could just as easily be that those guys left for the SAME amount and a better program not ran by a lazy career assistant.

[jdcatty]

well some of y'all called this exactly right:

https://x.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1864745956001869839


I don't usually say this, but fuck him.

[hit_that_line]

Makes you wonder about that injury.

[TC]

But how could he not want to play for an offensive line guru?

[vegashog]

Makes you wonder about that injury.

makes you wonder why he lied about not transferring if he got his redshirt.

[Pig Benis]

well some of y'all called this exactly right:

https://x.com/SSN_Arkansas/status/1864745956001869839


I don't usually say this, but fuck him.

Why? They're pros now and they're acting like it. Take the money, claim injury to avoid losing a year of eligibility, and then bolt for the next bag with eligibility intact. And yes, anyone could see this coming from a mile away. I bet Braxton is next. He mysteriously never played after game 2 if I remember correctly.

[jdcatty]

makes you wonder why he lied about not transferring if he got his redshirt.

yeah, despite my profession, I generally trust people when they tell me something.  Apparently it is a personal failing these days.

[vegashog]

yeah, despite my profession, I generally trust people when they tell me something.  Apparently it is a personal failing these days.

yep, doesn't matter who the coach is, he also told all the beat writers the same thing. that's lying, fuck him.

[TC]

yeah, despite my profession, I generally trust people when they tell me something.  Apparently it is a personal failing these days.

Do how'd you feel about the staff telling that QB that he was the only one in this class?

[jdcatty]

Do how'd you feel about the staff telling that QB that he was the only one in this class?

If you read that thread you noticed that I said the following:

I don't know.  I hate the whole portal thing and all these players transferring every year (or semester), but I kinda feel like if the coaches lie to you about recruiting, you ought to be able to back out of your letter of commitment.  Never thought I would say that, but that's kinda what I am feeling right now.

[TC]

If you read that thread you noticed that I said the following:

I don't know.  I hate the whole portal thing and all these players transferring every year (or semester), but I kinda feel like if the coaches lie to you about recruiting, you ought to be able to back out of your letter of commitment.  Never thought I would say that, but that's kinda what I am feeling right now.

Apologies, I obviously missed your post.  Kudos on your consistency.

[vegashog]

Do how'd you feel about the staff telling that QB that he was the only one in this class?

a little different. the #2 qb entered the portal 2 days before signing day. they were going to have to either sign a qb or get one from the portal.

personally i can't wait for the day contracts become a thing and hold all sides to a little accountability.

[Show-Me Hog]

yep, doesn't matter who the coach is, he also told all the beat writers the same thing. that's lying, fuck him.

He was telling the truth but things changed.

Just like Joe Biden.

[DirkPiggler]

a little different. the #2 qb entered the portal 2 days before signing day. they were going to have to either sign a qb or get one from the portal.

personally i can't wait for the day contracts become a thing and hold all sides to a little accountability.

Plus, we are Hog fans.  We are under no obligation to apply the same logic to someone who bails on the program versus someone who stays in it.  I'd prefer we treat everyone honestly (and that they would respond in kind), but I reserve the right to say fuck a kid who lies to us to our detriment while excusing a coach who does it to our benefit.