Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[animal]

Take him and quietly tell him if he performs super duper well he'll get a prize in his crackerjack box at the end of the season. All on the dl of course. Some recruiting nerds yesterday said Arkansas' priority is to retain Theiro, Wagner, Brazil, Richmond, and Knox. I'm not sure Theiro makes himself into a 1st rounder by playing another year of college ball but it can't hurt provided he continues to progress and stay healthy.

[vegashog]

theiro is already a late 1st rounder on a lot mock drafts. no worse than early 2nd. if that's the case, nil can't compete with that. i think it will depend if he's healthy enough to do the combine/workout stuff.

brazile will be 25 when the 26-27 nba season begins, he'll lose a bunch of what little leverage he has by taking that chance. he's never going to be anything other than a rotation player at the next level so if he gets offered a 2nd round deal it would be silly for him to come back.

word is the two freshman costs a small fortune, and if ahment somehow does come to arkansas, he damn sure won't be cheap. i guess we'll have to see how deep chicken man is willing to dig to keep all those guys. i hope they all come back but if the reports of cal reaching out to so many guys are true, he must expect some of them won't be here next season.

[Gambler]

Everyone go buy some chicken.

[Barton Fink]

Keyshawn Hall to Vanburn

[DrMongoose]

Everyone go buy some chicken.

Razorback nuggets and tusk beer !

[Show-Me Hog]

If the colleges really wanted to get control of the unlimited transfer portal, wouldn't their academic side simply assert superiority over the athletic side by refusing admission to "student-athletes" who transfer over and over and over? Use some bullshit reason about inadequate prior progress toward a degree, or for the better schools you don't meet our academic requirements. Whatever.

[vegashog]

they already have to meet academic requirements. since a lot of them take fours years to get their undergraduate degree, if at all, (or just go pro), the requirements aren't all that stringent. grad transfers have to have a bachelor's.

they can't make it any harder than it is for a student that doesn't play sports.

[Show-Me Hog]

they already have to meet academic requirements. since a lot of them take fours years to get their undergraduate degree, if at all, (or just go pro), the requirements aren't all that stringent. grad transfers have to have a bachelor's.

they can't make it any harder than it is for a student that doesn't play sports.

If I, as a non-athlete, wanted to transfer from Arkansas to Michigan to Seton Hall to Tulsa in 4 consecutive years, would I be able to get in to each school? I have never tried it or heard of anyone trying it, but I would somewhat doubt it.  Why should athletes be different?

[vegashog]

If I, as a non-athlete, wanted to transfer from Arkansas to Michigan to Seton Hall to Tulsa in 4 consecutive years, would I be able to get in to each school? I have never tried it or heard of anyone trying it, but I would somewhat doubt it.  Why should athletes be different?

if you have the credits, and meet their admissions (not to mention paying the tuitions), yes you can transfer those credits with no problems. there's probably more than you think that have done it. not sure why you think athletes are getting treated differently.

academics will not be something used in trying to reign in the portal.

[Show-Me Hog]

not sure why you think athletes are getting treated differently.

Because athletes always get special dispensation to be admitted, when regular folks in the same situation would not be.

[animal]

If the colleges really wanted to get control of the unlimited transfer portal, wouldn't their academic side simply assert superiority over the athletic side by refusing admission to "student-athletes" who transfer over and over and over? Use some bullshit reason about inadequate prior progress toward a degree, or for the better schools you don't meet our academic requirements. Whatever.

I agree that there needs to be something done. I'm looking at this from an academic standard and wonder how these universities can really certify that this person has met their standards for earning an undergrad degree when often times the student hasn't stayed anywhere for any real length of time. So one fix if you will would be to declare that ANY student at that given university MUST earn at least 51% of their credit hours with them and not somewhere else or that they can only transfer up to 49% of the degree hours. OR whatever percentage they deem most appropriate and meets tranditional norms. For all I know this is already the case but if that's true then how in the hell are we seeing student-athletes hopping from one school to the next each season with degree progress that's likely laughable at best. 

[Show-Me Hog]

how in the hell are we seeing students hopping from one school to the next each season with degree progress that's likely laughable at best.

You get my point, and I edited your comment to focus my point. It doesn't really matter that they're athletes. How can undergraduate students keep transferring from school to school to school to school to school to school?

[vegashog]

who seriously gives a fuck if taylen green or johnelle davis or charles davalon have truly done what they are supposed to academically as long as they do what we want them to do on the field, court, or diamond?

do the requirements get bent for athletes? sure, but that was happening decades before the transfer portal. regular students do not directly contribute to what has become a multi billion dollar industry.

i don't see academics being a mechanism for change in the portal which would affect ALL students, just because some don't like the portal.

[Show-Me Hog]

who seriously gives a fuck if taylen green or johnelle davis or charles davalon have truly done what they are supposed to academically as long as they do what we want them to do on the field, court, or diamond?

do the requirements get bent for athletes? sure, but that was happening decades before the transfer portal. regular students do not directly contribute to what has become a multi billion dollar industry.

i don't see academics being a mechanism for change in the portal which would affect ALL students, just because some don't like the portal.

We 100% agree that it ain't happening, because the tail don't wag that dog.

Remember my original premise -- IF academic types want to get this shit under control, this is a way to do it.

The fact that it isn't going to happen, is evidence that they don't want to get this shit under control.

To me continual transfers make a mockery of higher education and what these institutions are supposed to be about, and if I was an academic I would care about that and want to do something about it.

[BleedinRed]

Because athletes always get special dispensation to be admitted, when regular folks in the same situation would not be.

Pretty sure the admission standards to Georgia Tech are different between academic students and athletic students.

[vegashog]

We 100% agree that it ain't happening, because the tail don't wag that dog.

Remember my original premise -- IF academic types want to get this shit under control, this is a way to do it.

The fact that it isn't going to happen, is evidence that they don't want to get this shit under control.

To me continual transfers make a mockery of higher education and what these institutions are supposed to be about, and if I was an academic I would care about that and want to do something about it.

not going to disagree with any of that.

there could be some change coming. i saw an interview with sankey on dan patrick and he hinted that something could be conditioned in with the house settlement in regards to settlement money and players transferring. we'll see here shortly.

[Barton Fink]

Ladybacks got a transfer from Mayberry's daughter out of KU.

[Pighair]

Razorback nuggets and tusk beer !

Does the Tusk beer guy give a lot?  How is that beer anyway?  Anyone tried it?

[Show-Me Hog]

Pretty sure the admission standards to Georgia Tech are different between academic students and athletic students.

It's usually explicit and it's not just athletes. High level musicians, celebrity kids, there are various categories that get a plus factor.

This was part of the basis for when some celebs went to jail for paying for entry to USC for their kids. Some were put "on the rowing team" despite never having set foot in a boat, as a means to admission.

[HogOfWar]

Does the Tusk beer guy give a lot?  How is that beer anyway?  Anyone tried it?

It's ok. A step up from Budlight IMO.