Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[Third_down_draw]

$700k average 401k?

I wish you hadn't mentioned that.

$200-250k average for age 65. I was spitballing a prorated $700k + 3 cars/ season so I could be off a game or two.

[Zoso]

The NCAA just really doesn't GAF anymore do they?  When was the last time they said no to anything?

Jesse Pate

[Show-Me Hog]

Jesse Pate

Connor Vanover.

[Loma]

Already forgot about Haez or whatever his name was.

Hayes or Haus?

[Barton Fink]

Interesting

https://x.com/wrightsbarbecue/status/1869231779866964459?t=3u9IbNESHEG-ZItAvJnaRw&s=19

[Guardrail]

So we're right back to the Chad years. Death penalty type burning down of the program. Just join the SWAC and be done with it. That's about the level of give a crap anyone up there has.
Unserious program is unserious.

[Texzilla]

So we're right back to the Chad years. Death penalty type burning down of the program. Just join the SWAC and be done with it. That's about the level of give a crap anyone up there has.
Unserious program is unserious.

Sam needs to go for the gusto and totally destroy this thing. Lose every player to the portal including all the walkons.  Then he'll be remembered for something at least.
 

[buff2.0]

Players that want to win a lot of games and compete for Championships know to go somewhere else.  In 2011 today's recruits probably hadn't put on their first set of pads yet.

[The Whyte Boar]

Just from the outside looking in, it seems like players are testing the waters a little and we are refusing to match.  I get it if a player thinks he is way more valuable than he actually is, but at a certain point you have to have some continuity.  Even if you replace players with equal or slightly better talent, there are going to be issues and drop offs in production caused by players being new to the system, particularly on offense. 

Given the way HY and Sam have talked and have operated in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have some sort of blanket policy about refusing to match players they felt had been tampered with.  So players come to them about what they've heard they might get in the portal and we refuse to negotiate with them.  So they hit the portal. 

Something is going on.  Some of these guys would have been major contributors.  Dubinion, barring some injury or us pulling a rabbit out of the hat in the portal, was going to be a starting running back on an SEC team.  Outside of the NFL, that's about as good as it gets for a RB.  You don't portal out of that situation.  Something is rotten in Denmark.

[BleedinRed]

Looking at everyone who has portaled or been kicked off the team, I'm not seeing this huge issue that some of you are seeing.

Braylen Russell (FR - RB) - 47 rushes for 304 yards and 2 TDs.  Didn't really offer much this year in terms of production.  but was recognized as someone who would have a solid future for the Hogs.  He is a shitty human so no hurt feelings that he is moving on and I don't fault Pittman for not negotiating with him.

Addison Nichols (R-SO, OC) - Had no stats for 2024.  Had no stats for Tennessee in 2022 or 2023.

Brad Spence (SO - LB)  - 52 tackles/26 solo/28 assisted/4.5 sacks.  Not much from the freshman year but he is a loss for sure.

Selman Bridges (FR-CB) - No stats for the year.  I guess he could have been someone to build on.  He was a 4 star out of High School.  Kani Walker from Oklahoma hopefully will be an upgrade. 

Ja'Qinden Jackson (R-SR, RB) - retiring.  149 attempts, 790 yards, 15 TDs.  Guess he is out of eligibility.  Regardless, he was not the future.

Kaden Henley (R-SO, LB) - No stats in his two years.

Tevis Metcalf (FR, S) - No stats on the year.  3 star coming out of school.

Dylan Hasz (SO, S)  - No stats for his two years.  He wasn't ever going to be a quality player for the team.

Alex Sanford (SO, LB) - No stats for his two years.

Carson Dean (R-FR, LB) - Didn't see any action this year outside the first and last game.  Was a 4 star so maybe he would have been worth keeping.

Nico Davilier (JR, DE) - 23 Tackles/8 Solo/15 assisted/1 sack.  Not much production in his 3 years. But he was a body.  Michigan State DE Ken Talley should be at least an equal replacement.

Joshua Braun (OG) - Played 3 years at Florida, 2 at Arkansas, and will finish at Kentucky.  Not sure its Pittman's fault he didn't want to keep a job hoping senior.  Replacing with a Freshman transfer, JacQawn McRoy.  Might be a net positive for the Hogs.

Luke Hasz (TE) - 26 catches for 324 yards and 4 TDs.  Seems to be injured a lot though he played in most games.  Replaced by Jaden Platt.  The trade is a net zero impact and most likely benefits Arkansas.

Patrick Kutas (JR, OL) - Didn't play but a big loss.  If the stories are to be believed, he lied.  So I don't fault Pittman for not negotiating with him.  Oh, and fuck Kutas.

Isaiah Sategna (R-SO, WR) - 37 catches for 491 yards and 1 TD.  This one hurts only because we need receivers. Surly we can replace that production though.

Malachi Singleton (R-FR, QB) - I don't know what to say here.  I guess this one hurts but if Green is your guy then I don't know how it could be Pittman's fault that he is choosing to leave.  The guy is going to get paid so sticking around another year doesn't help him.  Plus, we have two good QB options coming in.  It will be critical that we develop these guys.  With that said, QB is the least of my worries with Petrino on staff.

Amaury Wiggins (R-SO, OC) - No real production in his two years. 

Jaedon Wilson (R-JR, WR) - No production in his three years.  Shouldn't be hard to replace.

Tyrus Washington  (TE) - dismissed from team

Var'Keyes Gumms (TE) - dismissed from team

Edit: I think I got all the portalers or quitters as we used to call them.

[The Whyte Boar]

So if player development is no longer a thing, why do we not have a coach who can maximize production from existing talent?

[BleedinRed]

So if player development is no longer a thing, why do we not have a coach who can maximize production from existing talent?

I'm certainly not arguing against player development.  My point would be every roster has guys that are only on the roster to be punching bags for the real players.  A lot of the guys hitting the portal seems to be those players.  Practice players if you will.

Certainly we have 3 or 4 guys that either were or should have been productive players and development certainly is expected.  Of those 3 or 4, 1 or two of them I have not problem if Pittman didn't play their game.

All I'm really saying is that it doesn't appear that they sky is falling.

[The Whyte Boar]

I'm certainly not arguing against player development.  My point would be every roster has guys that are only on the roster to be punching bags for the real players.  A lot of the guys hitting the portal seems to be those players.  Practice players if you will.

Certainly we have 3 or 4 guys that either were or should have been productive players and development certainly is expected.  Of those 3 or 4, 1 or two of them I have not problem if Pittman didn't play their game.

All I'm really saying is that it doesn't appear that they sky is falling.

Okay, name the starters coming back who were "developed" and will be contributing next year.

[BleedinRed]

Green for one.  Unless you think he got worse as the year went and won't be better next year.  Which then begs the question, "Why do you hate BMFP?"

[The Whyte Boar]

Green for one.  Unless you think he got worse as the year went and won't be better next year.  Which then begs the question, "Why do you hate BMFP?"

You got one for now.  Portal season ain't over.  Name some more.

[hit_that_line]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4911904/keyron-crawford

I confirmed that this guy got $300k to move from A-State to Auburn last year and is due another $100k. For zero sacks or TFL's. What a world.

[Loma]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4911904/keyron-crawford

I confirmed that this guy got $300k to move from A-State to Auburn last year and is due another $100k. For zero sacks or TFL's. What a world.

We have freshman linebacker that redshirted. My sources say he's getting $100k for this year and probably another $100k next year. 

[Show-Me Hog]

Looking at everyone who has portaled or been kicked off the team, I'm not seeing this huge issue that some of you are seeing.

Braylen Russell (FR - RB) - 47 rushes for 304 yards and 2 TDs.  Didn't really offer much this year in terms of production.  but was recognized as someone who would have a solid future for the Hogs.  He is a shitty human so no hurt feelings that he is moving on and I don't fault Pittman for not negotiating with him.

Addison Nichols (R-SO, OC) - Had no stats for 2024.  Had no stats for Tennessee in 2022 or 2023.

Brad Spence (SO - LB)  - 52 tackles/26 solo/28 assisted/4.5 sacks.  Not much from the freshman year but he is a loss for sure.

Selman Bridges (FR-CB) - No stats for the year.  I guess he could have been someone to build on.  He was a 4 star out of High School.  Kani Walker from Oklahoma hopefully will be an upgrade. 

Ja'Qinden Jackson (R-SR, RB) - retiring.  149 attempts, 790 yards, 15 TDs.  Guess he is out of eligibility.  Regardless, he was not the future.

Kaden Henley (R-SO, LB) - No stats in his two years.

Tevis Metcalf (FR, S) - No stats on the year.  3 star coming out of school.

Dylan Hasz (SO, S)  - No stats for his two years.  He wasn't ever going to be a quality player for the team.

Alex Sanford (SO, LB) - No stats for his two years.

Carson Dean (R-FR, LB) - Didn't see any action this year outside the first and last game.  Was a 4 star so maybe he would have been worth keeping.

Nico Davilier (JR, DE) - 23 Tackles/8 Solo/15 assisted/1 sack.  Not much production in his 3 years. But he was a body.  Michigan State DE Ken Talley should be at least an equal replacement.

Joshua Braun (OG) - Played 3 years at Florida, 2 at Arkansas, and will finish at Kentucky.  Not sure its Pittman's fault he didn't want to keep a job hoping senior.  Replacing with a Freshman transfer, JacQawn McRoy.  Might be a net positive for the Hogs.

Luke Hasz (TE) - 26 catches for 324 yards and 4 TDs.  Seems to be injured a lot though he played in most games.  Replaced by Jaden Platt.  The trade is a net zero impact and most likely benefits Arkansas.

Patrick Kutas (JR, OL) - Didn't play but a big loss.  If the stories are to be believed, he lied.  So I don't fault Pittman for not negotiating with him.  Oh, and fuck Kutas.

Isaiah Sategna (R-SO, WR) - 37 catches for 491 yards and 1 TD.  This one hurts only because we need receivers. Surly we can replace that production though.

Malachi Singleton (R-FR, QB) - I don't know what to say here.  I guess this one hurts but if Green is your guy then I don't know how it could be Pittman's fault that he is choosing to leave.  The guy is going to get paid so sticking around another year doesn't help him.  Plus, we have two good QB options coming in.  It will be critical that we develop these guys.  With that said, QB is the least of my worries with Petrino on staff.

Amaury Wiggins (R-SO, OC) - No real production in his two years. 

Jaedon Wilson (R-JR, WR) - No production in his three years.  Shouldn't be hard to replace.

Tyrus Washington  (TE) - dismissed from team

Var'Keyes Gumms (TE) - dismissed from team

Edit: I think I got all the portalers or quitters as we used to call them.

Dubinion?

[HughJasole]

Jesse Pate

RIP.

[Barton Fink]

Armstrong and Teslaa were much better this year than last. On defense, Metcalf, Spence, Ball, Gregory and Jackson were better this year than last.

I don't think you are gonna see many multi-year development of players at places like Arkansas. Kids that are 3-4 Star are better off going to a smaller school and play immediately ( if they were smart), then transfer up. Kids that aren't
playing will transfer out quicker than before.