SEC Basketball Tourney 2025

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Barton Fink

Quote from: mr.zorak on Mar 13, 2025, 09:31 PMDennis Gates is a good coach and after hearing several interviews with him this season he seems like a good guy also.



Agree

Zoso

I guess all you fuckers missed that...

buff2.0

Worst defense in the history of college basketball.  Shut the sport down and blame OU.

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1900414283705352482
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: buff2.0 on Mar 14, 2025, 06:27 AMWorst defense in the history of college basketball.  Shut the sport down and blame OU.

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1900414283705352482

1995 Missouri's inability to slow down Tyus Edney would like a word.
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animal

Tyus Edney was just fast as fuck. 


This clip just shows some lazy fucking defense. You got to get down the court and cut off those angles of approach. All they had to do is buy time make that kid hesitate and then it becomes a shooting situation and not a drive to the basket. 

Nobody seems to be able to stop guard penetration anymore. And as someone said the way the games are called the guy with the ball can do about anything including take 3 or 4 steps and there's no call. Hell we had a kid drive, slide from the foul line down about 5 feet nearly to the halo and there's no call for a walk. For years players have been able to jump into defenders and get calls. For a while they were allowed to stiff arm but I think that's been somewhat eliminated. No amount of text book defense seems to matter so I think coaches just aren't stressing it like they once did.

I'm not sure how it is in these other leagues but the SEC officiating seems to get worse year to year. I think that's why we've seen SEC teams tank in the dance...the games are officiated way differently and guys don't know how to adjust.

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: animal on Mar 14, 2025, 07:22 AMTyus Edney was just fast as fuck.


This clip just shows some lazy fucking defense. You got to get down the court and cut off those angles of approach. All they had to do is buy time make that kid hesitate and then it becomes a shooting situation and not a drive to the basket.

Nobody seems to be able to stop guard penetration anymore. And as someone said the way the games are called the guy with the ball can do about anything including take 3 or 4 steps and there's no call. Hell we had a kid drive, slide from the foul line down about 5 feet nearly to the halo and there's no call for a walk. For years players have been able to jump into defenders and get calls. For a while they were allowed to stiff arm but I think that's been somewhat eliminated. No amount of text book defense seems to matter so I think coaches just aren't stressing it like they once did.

I'm not sure how it is in these other leagues but the SEC officiating seems to get worse year to year. I think that's why we've seen SEC teams tank in the dance...the games are officiated way differently and guys don't know how to adjust.



Missouri was every bit as lazy.  It was like they didn't believe he could make it the length of the court in that time frame, so they just stood around and watched while mentally celebrating their win.  Like OU last night, they never made even a half assed attempt to stop the ball or make him change directions.

I'm still bitter about that.  If Missouri stops Edney and wins, the Hogs likely win a second title.  Nobody knows who Ed O'Bannon is. 1995 UCLA doesn't make it onto a video game as an all-time team prompting Ed O to sue the NCAA or EA Sports.  That one game essentially started all the NIL bullshit.  So basically Missouri's inability to keep a midget from going 94 feet in four seconds ruined college athletics.
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BleedinRed

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Quote from: animal on Mar 14, 2025, 07:22 AMThis clip just shows some lazy fucking defense...Nobody seems to be able to stop guard penetration anymore.

Blame the refs for this.  It used to be a defender would learn how to move his feet, stay between the guard and the basket, establish ground, and be rewarded.  Over time, the refs threw that all out the windown and began calling fouls on the defender the second his body touched the offensive driver.  Now, defenders do all they can to stay between the guard and the basket but their biggest concern is not touching the offensive player.  The offense has way to much protection and defensive position is no longer a thing.

You see the same thing happnening on rebounds.  You used to see guys boxing out with great technique.  Now, the other player can jump through the guy boxing out and no foul is called. 

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Defenders are allowed to body our guys without penalty most of the time.

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 14, 2025, 08:53 AMBlame the refs for this.  It used to be a defender would learn how to move his feet, stay between the guard and the basket, establish ground, and be rewarded.  Over time, the refs threw that all out the windown and began calling fouls on the defender the second his body touched the offensive driver.  Now, defenders do all they can to stay between the guard and the basket but their biggest concern is not touching the offensive player.  The offense has way to much protection and defensive position is no longer a thing. 

You see the same thing happnening on rebounds.  You used to see guys boxing out with great technique.  Now, the other player can jump through the guy boxing out and no foul is called. 

Going to add a big asterisk here for Arkansas games. 

Defenders are allowed to body our guys without penalty most of the time.

If our guys jump through a block out they usually get called for it. 

What you said applies for the other 99%+ of college basketball though.

I'd add one more thing that the offense is allowed to do that is rarely if ever called.  Watch whenever a ball handler is being closely guarded.  He's almost always allowed to use his arm to clear space.  In the past, if the offensive player extended his arm and shoved off the defender he was called with an offensive foul.  That happens probably 20-30 times per game now and is never whistled.
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BleedinRed

College basketball officiating should return to the pre no hand checking era.

Son of Spam

Too many teams (ours included) don't make the inbounds receiver work to get down the court, thus running time off the clock. They all drop back and let the guy just come into the front court and set up the play. Make that fucker work to get to the front court and with little time left, they will usually throw up a prayer.
Well, shit...

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 14, 2025, 10:13 AMToo many teams (ours included) don't make the inbounds receiver work to get down the court, thus running time off the clock. They all drop back and let the guy just come into the front court and set up the play. Make that fucker work to get to the front court and with little time left, they will usually throw up a prayer.

I think the coaches' instruction DON'T FOUL, which is a real concern in a one-point game given how they call defensive fouls nowadays, is a significant contributor to backing off anyone with the ball.

Cornhogio

Physical 🏀 in this Mizzou - Florida game.  Damn.
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Zoso

Well this thread has gone to sleep. 4 games today and 1 post? I guess nobody gives a fuck about Kentucky getting beat by 20.

See you fuckers tomorrow.

Barton Fink

I'm enjoying the ass kicking too much to post. Shitbirds

Zoso

Quote from: Barton Fink on Mar 14, 2025, 10:49 PMI'm enjoying the ass kicking too much to post. Shitbirds

This is beautiful. Not a Bama fan by any stretch but...this is beautiful...

Barton Fink


Show-Me Hog

The 4 teams who waited on everyone, all won. Chalk.

As good as the entire conference allegedly is, those four are gooder.

mr.zorak

My brother is there and said it was glorious to see the Big Blue Nation leave real early. 

In droves.
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mr.zorak

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Barton Fink

Yep, should go down to the wire.