SEC must go to 9 games

Started by SwahiliSteve, Aug 12, 2025, 10:22 AM

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BleedinRed

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 13, 2025, 12:25 AMPlaying in a 16 team SEC doesn't benefit Arkansas on the field either but it sure as hell pays well.
1964 isn't coming back, we've been to Atlanta 3 times in 25+ years, it is time to face the reality of the situation.
You care more than those in charge.
We are surrounded on all borders by conference schools for the first time ever. NLI, The portal, etc. 
What makes you think we will be a player in football? We can't beat frickin Missouri. Shit we can't even cover the spread against them.
The window has closed.

Then what is the point of having a program?  If we can't win then why play?   Who cares how much money we can make if we can't compete?   

Those are serious questions.  What is the point of t of it all?

BleedinRed

Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 13, 2025, 04:28 AMBleed seems to get erect at prospect of putting a 50 burger on bama A&M. I hate rent a wins.  

Retarded take is retarded. 

I do like playing teams like Notre Dame.  

No point in playing a Notre Dame if out of 12 games you are already playing 9 of the best teams in the country within your own conference schedule.  


SwahiliSteve

Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 13, 2025, 04:28 AMThe league will go to 9 games when it can extract the appropriate money from cbs or espn.  I'm all for it as it will add a shitton of money, and it's better competition.  Bleed seems to get erect at prospect of putting a 50 burger on bama A&M. I hate rent a wins. 

Actually if the sec exits the ncaa, I'm for a fucking 15 game sec schedule. They are pros now so fuck class.  The money would be hugest.
it most likely will be up to espn.
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

vegashog

an article in the athletic says espn has already offered $50-80 million extra for a 9th conference game.

cbs gave up the sec so i doubt they will ever televise it again, not for the foreseeable future anyway. espn's contract runs for another 9 years.

animal

In ten years it'll probably go to some kind of sports streaming service either Disney owned or possibly by then some other kid on the block will come along. 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

SwahiliSteve

Does introducing a 9th game make it more difficult for some SEC teams to reach the required six victories needed to become eligible for a non playoff bowl game? Perhaps
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Texzilla

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Aug 13, 2025, 09:33 AMDoes introducing a 9th game make it more difficult for some SEC teams to reach the required six victories needed to become eligible for a non playoff bowl game? Perhaps

The path is for the SEC to become the separate nfl developmental league over and above the oher shits in the ncaa. Big10 can either come along or not.  Who gives a fuck about 6 game eligible bowl games?  All that will matter is the new sec championship and the bowls that choose to become playoff games. 15 games, all conference, with all nfl developmental talent.  ESPN will kowtow to that and pay big $ for it, likely with an expansion of sec network and a hefty sub fee for us.

animal

Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 13, 2025, 09:53 AMThe path is for the SEC to become the separate nfl developmental league over and above the oher shits in the ncaa. Big10 can either come along or not.  Who gives a fuck about 6 game eligible bowl games?  All that will matter is the new sec championship and the bowls that choose to become playoff games. 15 games, all conference, with all nfl developmental talent.  ESPN will kowtow to that and pay big $ for it, likely with an expansion of sec network and a hefty sub fee for us.

D1 consists of what 118 schools or something like that? Most of those schools in one form or another is making TV revenue or getting paid largely to get prison sext on live television and would be at a great risk of diminished importance the moment the big schools break away to form some kind of alliance that excludes their participation. People would lose interest, sports networks would have dead air if they didn't show them but overall I think it would quickly become another D2 or whatever. Nobody will care about the Tulsa's and the Akron's of the world. 

No doubt if the big schools formed a non-ncaa alliance it would make for great tv and possibly be something awesome to behold but it's going to come at the cost of the rest of what is now college football. 


 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

DirkPiggler

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Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Aug 13, 2025, 09:33 AMDoes introducing a 9th game make it more difficult for some SEC teams to reach the required six victories needed to become eligible for a non playoff bowl game? Perhaps

That's exactly why so many coaches are opposed to the switch.  The possibility of a barely above .500 season and a shitass bowl are all that guys like Pittman, Drunkshitz, Stoops, and whoever is at Miss State in any given year has to look forward to.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

mde114

Replaying the Okie State game on ESPN2. We were not a smart team that day. Time had dulled some of the frustrations of being a Razorback fan, but watching this game, it all came back to me.

Texzilla

Quote from: mde114 on Aug 13, 2025, 12:21 PMReplaying the Okie State game on ESPN2. We were not a smart team that day. Time had dulled some of the frustrations of being a Razorback fan, but watching this game, it all came back to me.

You know why they play stupid?  Because the head coach is stupid. Prepare fore yet more of the same. If it gets Sam fired I'm all for a massive stupid loss to the red wolves. 

Texzilla

Quote from: animal on Aug 13, 2025, 11:23 AMD1 consists of what 118 schools or something like that? Most of those schools in one form or another is making TV revenue or getting paid largely to get prison sext on live television and would be at a great risk of diminished importance the moment the big schools break away to form some kind of alliance that excludes their participation. People would lose interest, sports networks would have dead air if they didn't show them but overall I think it would quickly become another D2 or whatever. Nobody will care about the Tulsa's and the Akron's of the world.

No doubt if the big schools formed a non-ncaa alliance it would make for great tv and possibly be something awesome to behold but it's going to come at the cost of the rest of what is now college football.


Frankly I don't care about the big 12 or the pac whatever or directional schools. Segmentation has to happen. The money and everything else dictate it.

The second tier of b12, acc, pac, can still thrive in their regions and alumni, just at a different level. The rest are where they are scrambling just as they always have. 




CardHog

I love Tuesday night MACtion, that's not going away.

DrMongoose

Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 13, 2025, 04:43 AMThen what is the point of having a program?  If we can't win then why play?   Who cares how much money we can make if we can't compete?   

Those are serious questions.  What is the point of t of it all?

great questions that a lot of programs should ask but here we are. Why do schools like ASU move up from FCS to FBS when they have no shot of ever making the playoff? why did JFB get us in the SEC? Why don't we leave and join the Big 12 where football might have a chance? Why don't schools breakaway from the NCAA instead of bitching about ?

money

for kicks add ego, football, and testosterone to the mix and here we are. 




Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

BleedinRed

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 14, 2025, 10:19 AMgreat questions that a lot of programs should ask but here we are. Why do schools like ASU move up from FCS to FBS when they have no shot of ever making the playoff? why did JFB get us in the SEC? Why don't we leave and join the Big 12 where football might have a chance? Why don't schools breakaway from the NCAA instead of bitching about ?

money

for kicks add ego, football, and testosterone to the mix and here we are. 






Those are all the reasons for profit organizaitons make moves.  I was speaking from the fan standpoint.

Texzilla

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 14, 2025, 10:19 AMgreat questions that a lot of programs should ask but here we are. Why do schools like ASU move up from FCS to FBS when they have no shot of ever making the playoff? why did JFB get us in the SEC? Why don't we leave and join the Big 12 where football might have a chance? Why don't schools breakaway from the NCAA instead of bitching about ?

money

for kicks add ego, football, and testosterone to the mix and here we are. 

Would you want to be the same loser over in the big 12, fighting it out with Baylor, OSU, and Kansas?  Fuck that shit.  We're where we need to be and just need to get folks involved that can bring the money to bring great coaching. The shit parade since the Harleygate has been a disaster.




Texzilla

Quote from: BleedinRed on Aug 14, 2025, 10:34 AMThose are all the reasons for profit organizaitons make moves.  I was speaking from the fan standpoint.

You actually believe nonprofits operate for altruistic reasons? 

BleedinRed

Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 14, 2025, 12:23 PMYou actually believe nonprofits operate for altruistic reasons? 

You need to go back and comprehend the totality of the conversation before asking questions.

Texzilla

It was a rhetorical question. 

BleedinRed

Quote from: Texzilla on Aug 14, 2025, 08:06 PMIt was a rhetorical question. 

The question didn't apply to the conversation being had.