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Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.

This is something we often gloss over while fondly reminiscing of the good ol' years.  Petrino was not a good recruiter.  He simply wasn't... and he has a terrible national rep in the media (some of it very unfairly).  Now, can NIL overcome that?  Maybe.  Can he still be a hard ass but tone it enough for the cry baby portal era?  Maybe. 

I'm in wait and see mode.  Though nothing would please me more than for BMFP to return and win and win big.  I'm ready to be the villain again.  Will that happen?  I don't know.  I think he's set up for failure right now and winning more than 2 would be miraculous.  Winning 2 will be a very tough uphill battle.

Piggielicious

Quote from: HTL on Oct 05, 2025, 01:11 PMDoubt Petrino would be successful in this era as a head coach.
I was already in the pro-BMFP camp. I am certain now that he will win big.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.

He made those guys better than they otherwise would have been. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Pumpkin Escobar

I like Petrino, but his second go around at Louisville wasn't as good as his first. He had issues replacing the the talent Charlie left him, especially on defense. He also had a problem getting good assistants. Half of that team was wanting to transfer when he was finally let go.

I'd prefer someone younger who relates better to this generation. I'd also like someone who can navigate the NIL and transfer portal better. Sumrall is my first choice, but we'll significantly have to upgrade a number of things for him to consider us.
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Maybe be he can get Charlie Strong to be dc.  Let Charlie have a leash to keep Petrino in check with the players. From all I know, Charlie's players all loved him. And he was a great dc, just not a great head coach.
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vegashog

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 05, 2025, 03:13 PMI'd prefer someone younger who relates better to this generation.
to expand a little on that part.

he's going to be 65 going into spring ball. how long of a contract will he get? there is no 'long haul' for a guy that's 70-71 years old after his contract ends.

animal

Are we sleeping on Joey McGuire or is his contract buyout considered too steep? 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Son of Spam

I think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?
Well, shit...

Piggielicious

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 05, 2025, 03:33 PMto expand a little on that part.

he's going to be 65 going into spring ball. how long of a contract will he get? there is no 'long haul' for a guy that's 70-71 years old after his contract ends.
Do you have those same concerns about Cal?

Barton Fink

Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2025, 03:47 PMI think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?

Hopefully we have built a winning culture with deep support from our donors/fanbase by then.

vegashog

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Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 05, 2025, 03:47 PMI think BMFP will be a great short term fix. But what then?
kinda what i was saying. do we go thru this in another four years.
Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 03:48 PMDo you have those same concerns about Cal?
no. look at the bball coaches that can go into their mid to late seventies with great success, and now name the ones who have done so recently in football. apples to oranges when trying to compare the two sports.

cal gets today's kids, throw in his personality and it's easy to see why they get him.

i've already said petrino would be fine, just not my first choice.

animal

I look at it like the odds being low we get much more than about 7 years regardless who we hire. Sure the odds of getting 15 years out of a 65 year old coach is nearly zero but in this age of ever changing rules and shit you need to shift gears anyway. 

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

vegashog

it's a roll of the dice either way. but with a little patience and a lot of support somebody's going to get the next matt campbell.


DrMongoose

Quote from: animal on Oct 05, 2025, 03:45 PMAre we sleeping on Joey McGuire or is his contract buyout considered too steep?

Why woukd he leave a program actively being bankrolled by a billionaire?
Check your damn blood pressure!

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bigpig

Quote from: Loma on Oct 05, 2025, 02:26 PMPetrino had incredible Arkansas talent in his first term. I doubt he would have been as successful without it. I'm afraid that's going to be the case moving forward. We'll need an exceptional in state recruiting class for Petrino to be successful because I don't think he can recruit as well as what we need. He is the best scheming coach I've ever seen, just not sure he can get the horses we need.

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Usafhawg

Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 03:48 PMDo you have those same concerns about Cal?
How many national championships has Petrino won? How many has he played in? How many final 4"s? Not a realistic comparison

vegashog

Quote from: DrMongoose on Oct 05, 2025, 04:50 PMWhy woukd he leave a program actively being bankrolled by a billionaire?
not only that, but you don't wait for these guys to go to p4 schools and then try to hire them away. that's where you just get worked by the agents and they get a raise.

Piggielicious

Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 05, 2025, 05:39 PMHow many national championships has Petrino won? How many has he played in? How many final 4"s? Not a realistic comparison
He has 1 less title than Cal and the same number as DVH.

HTL

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Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 02:50 PMI was already in the pro-BMFP camp. I am certain now that he will win big.
Dream on. Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Upside is 8-4.

HTL

Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 05, 2025, 06:11 PMHe has 1 less title than Cal and the same number as DVH.
Please show the history of where Petrino has built and sustained a program.