The NEXT Coach

Started by PHARMHOG, Sep 28, 2025, 01:21 PM

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Pig Benis

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 12:54 PMYou don't hear much chatter about coordinators as potential candidates. Any worthy options there? There doesn't seem to be many long standing coordinators like there used to be.

There don't seem to be many getting mentioned but I could see some coming into play. I don't see many P4 head coaches looking to move this time around, especially if they have stable NIL. So then you're looking at P4 coordinators if you don't want to go the G5 route.

Lane is a good example. At this point, I don't see him leaving unless it's for the Dolphins. There's no reason to leave.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Barton Fink

Also, the Gruden smoke sure has died out. Still wouldn't be surprised if someone took a shot with him. Belichick probably takes a lot of the blame there.

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 01:00 PMThere don't seem to be many getting mentioned but I could see some coming into play. I don't see many P4 head coaches looking to move this time around, especially if they have stable NIL. So then you're looking at P4 coordinators if you don't want to go the G5 route.

Lane is a good example. At this point, I don't see him leaving unless it's for the Dolphins. There's no reason to leave.

OM can't afford to pay anything like say, Texas, can.  Particularly if you're looking at NIL pool.

I also think there's only so much a guy like Lane can stand in a little place like Oxford.  Baton Rouge/New Orleans would be better, for sure, but not as much as Austin would be. I just don't think LSU has the cash

vegashog

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 12:54 PMYou don't hear much chatter about coordinators as potential candidates. Any worthy options there? There doesn't seem to be many long standing coordinators like there used to be.
the foundation plane was in eugene earlier in the week. could have had nothing to do with the search, but will stein?

bigpig

Had a thought this morning that we were going to hire Kliff Kingsbury. That would go over like a lead balloon.

At least Bobby had great results at UL before the NFL hired him/we scooped him up.

Kliff was a perpetual .500 coach who escaped to the NFL at a time when "hot young OCs was the fad," flamed out, and is looking to rehab his reputation.
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Pig Benis

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:06 PMOM can't afford to pay anything like say, Texas, can.  Particularly if you're looking at NIL pool.

I also think there's only so much a guy like Lane can stand in a little place like Oxford.  Baton Rouge/New Orleans would be better, for sure, but not as much as Austin would be. I just don't think LSU has the cash

Well yes, but Texas and Ohio State are in a different tier. Everyone would go there but neither are firing their coaches this year.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Barton Fink

We could do worse than Kingsbury. He's still far from a sure thing.

bigpig

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 02, 2025, 01:21 PMWe could do worse than Kingsbury. He's still far from a sure thing.

He's been a better OC than HC, but who knows.
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AporkalypseNow

Quote from: Pig Benis on Nov 02, 2025, 01:19 PMWell yes, but Texas and Ohio State are in a different tier. Everyone would go there but neither are firing their coaches this year.

Not so sure about Texas, they're playing better now. If they finish with 4 losses don't count it staying open out.

Penn St is a top 10 job for sure, maybe top 5.  Living there would suck.

AporkalypseNow

Kingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.

I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.

PorkyPig

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 02, 2025, 01:08 PMthe foundation plane was in eugene earlier in the week. could have had nothing to do with the search, but will stein?

We could probably do worse.

Feral

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.

I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.

Well put, and same.

We could do worse than Kingsbury, but I'd prefer the 4 you listed ahead of him. 

animal

I think the dude at North Texas is probably going to end up getting a very hard look. The deal with a guy like him is what kind of staff can he surround himself with? 

Whatever happened to that new hotness assistant at LSU and New Orleans "Brady?" that invented Joe Burrow? I assume once that was over his genius faded fast.

Also can we get Ed O a steady supply of cheerleader moms and make him DL coach? 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

AporkalypseNow

One thing about the UNT coach (Morris, FFS, unlucky bastard) is even though he turned around Incarnate Word and UNT in just a year he wasn't long either place.  Quick turnarounds are a plus but not much track record as a head coach. Reflected in his aggregate record.

He took a walk on QB that didn't start HS to #2 in the nation in passing - was it him or dumb luck the kid walked on to his team?

I guess it's a plus he's from Texas and besides playing under Leach he coached at Houston, Wash St, and Texas Tech which are big enough programs he's been around coaching circles enough to have assistant contacts.  He's young.

Hognrock

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.

I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.

I agree with this.  I'd also add Chesney at JMU to the list above.  Whoever it is NIL and assistant coach salary pool will be critical.  Need to get Chicken Man, Walmart and some other big boosters to fill the pot if we want to be successful.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 01:35 PMKingsbury was 35-40 at Texas Tech which is generally a school with decent advantages in the Big XII that was winning before and after him.

I would prefer the UNT, Tulane, Memphis, or USF coaches over him.

Tulane coach Sumrall is a hard no for me.  His OC is Craddock, the guy in charge of implementing and calling plays for the 30% of Chad's offense that we got to see.  He's calling plays in a similar fashion in his current job.   Hiring that guy for anything not involving a mop or bucket is a sign of a lack of judgment. 
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AporkalypseNow

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 02:17 PMTulane coach Sumrall is a hard no for me.  His OC is Craddock, the guy in charge of implementing and calling plays for the 30% of Chad's offense that we got to see.  He's calling plays in a similar fashion in his current job.   Hiring that guy for anything not involving a mop or bucket is a sign of a lack of judgment. 

This is a reasonable take, he's the lowest of those 4 for me (almost didn't include him).

However, clearly some Morris staff were much better than we realized under better leadership.

I love the Leach offense, always have.  Huge plus for Morris from UNT.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 02, 2025, 02:20 PMThis is a reasonable take, he's the lowest of those 4 for me (almost didn't include him).

However, clearly some Morris staff were much better than we realized under better leadership.

I love the Leach offense, always have.  Huge plus for Morris from UNT.

Traylor is the only one off that staff who should ever even be considered for a job here, and we would have to get turned down by a lot of others before I'd want to hire him.   

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AporkalypseNow

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 02, 2025, 02:25 PMTraylor is the only one off that staff who should ever even be considered for a job here, and we would have to get turned down by a lot of others before I'd want to hire him.   



The obvious one I was referring to, and I prefer he's not on the list

Son of Spam

If you are a king in a smaller conference, winning championships and going to bowls nearly every year, do you really want to give that up to go to a bottom feeder in the toughest conference in the nation to try and rebuild a program? There is a lot to think about, whoever we over the job to. Now, if you are at present, unemployed, you would probably take most opportunities offered. Especially, if you saw you were going to get paid, whether you suck or not. I have no idea who we should offer. But remember, a lot of the coaches being mentioned were once hot commodities. Now, you don't hear much about them or they have been fired because they aren't winning NOW.

Well, shit...