The NEXT Coach

[vegashog]

What was DVH upset about? The percentage allocated to baseball?

yes.

[Borenutz]

I love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.

I don't disagree, but long term coaches may just be a thing of the past, except for your top tier jobs.

[HogOfWar]

I love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.

I think the term "bridge coach" is a coping term for justifying hiring Pittman.

No one takes a job for short term unless it is an interim coach for a coach that has been fired,quit, or died at some point unexpectedly during or before the season.

Joe Kines, John L Smith, Barry Luney, and BMFP are interim coaches. Sam was hired to be the head coach to bring about something consistent and long term.

I have my speculation to why we ended up with Sam from all the things said on here, but we hired him for a different direction that Chad was leading us on. He shouldn't have been hired that's for damn sure. He looked like he knew what he was with the help of Odom, Briles, and Morris's recruits. He was hired on the cheap and it screwed us when no one was holding his hand.

Hiring a coach for a "bridge" is retarded other than filling a void for immediate needs.

[Cornhogio]

I love BMFP but I also think we have to start thinking long term and get away from this notion of a short term 'bridge coach,' which is what Pittman was.

For me, the biggest benefit of hiring Petrino is that he'll do well and prove that it can be done here.  Sort of like Muss in basketball.

[buff2.0]

"Well" for us is a criminally low bar now. Stack Liberty Bowl commemorative VHS tapes and coach for the next 5 years. Even if Bobby does far better than that does he want to be HC for longer than 5 more years?

Good thing with NIL and the current portal is that we might avoid the customary reset that seems to follow BMFP tenures.

[TC]

"Well" for us is a criminally low bar now. Stack Liberty Bowl commemorative VHS tapes and coach for the next 5 years. Even if Bobby does far better than that does he want to be HC for longer than 5 more years?

Good thing with NIL and the current portal is that we might avoid the customary reset that seems to follow BMFP tenures.

Not a single kind word from you regarding Larry! I'm disappointed.

[TC]

I'm sure Bobby wouldn't stay as OC if he doesnt get the gig, but he'd be a great OC for Odom

He was for like 3 or 4 days.

[DirkPiggler]

PJ Fleck is the other B10 coach. 

Lindseys are pushing for him.   John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.

[soldiersooie]

Sounds like a horse I have bet on at Oaklawn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanlandingham

My grandfather had a chance to co-own that horse and turned it down. 

[BleedinRed]

PJ Fleck is the other B10 coach. 

Lindseys are pushing for him.  John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.

A conflict of interest hire.  What could go wrong?

[Feral]

PJ Fleck is the other B10 coach. 

Lindseys are pushing for him.  John David's kid is Fleck's QB in Minnesota.

I was wondering about Fleck. Maybe he's looking for a new home since he's been at Minnesota for almost a decade, but who knows.

I find his slogans ("row the boat" is dumb FWIW) and coach-isms to be corny, but of course our fans would eat it up because we literally can't help ourselves.

We could do a lot worse (and probably will). Him and Lindsey as a package deal would be nice.

[TheOtherWhiteMeat]

With Freeze out at Auburn there are two many openings and not enough qualified candidates. Arkansas is way down the list of schools coaches will consider. If we go shopping we will end up with another Pittman or worse. Hire Bobby now. He is a proven quantity at Arkansas and I don't see him as a bridge coach, I can see him finishing his career at Arkansas. You can't judge him on this season with the dumpster fire of a roster we have. He's ours for the taking. Plus he'll likely come at a price that won't break the bank. HY needs to grow a set, tell the big money to fuck off, and make the hire.

[Guardrail]

With Freeze out at Auburn there are two many openings and not enough qualified candidates. Arkansas is way down the list of schools coaches will consider. If we go shopping we will end up with another Pittman or worse. Hire Bobby now. He is a proven quantity at Arkansas and I don't see him as a bridge coach, I can see him finishing his career at Arkansas. You can't judge him on this season with the dumpster fire of a roster we have. He's ours for the taking. Plus he'll likely come at a price that won't break the bank. HY needs to grow a set, tell the big money to fuck off, and make the hire.

Yep. Build in incentives and milestones for improvement just like our employers do, and if he doesn't meet them then you move towards replacement. No emotion or hand wringing. Arkansas is not getting a better candidate that
1.wants the job
2.will do it for whatever pay is appropriate

You're not getting anybody else without a bazillion dollar buyout due to the dumpster fire the program is and has been for 10 years. People don't like Bobby, so what. Ain't no young bucks clamoring to destroy their resume coaching here.

[animal]

In Arkansas he'd have to convert that slogan to "Row your Inner-tube" or something to that measure. I'm okay with Fleck...but lets not go pretending that's a homerun hire. He hasn't lit the world on fire in the Big 10 and Minnesota is probably a fairly comparable program to Arkansas. 

Also hiring a coach on the basis of somebodies kid who plays QB for somebody else but that somebody else may come with the kid to Arkansas is incredibly thin. But right on brand for this era of college athletics 

I think the positive for Fleck is he's only 44 years old so presumably he's still got a lot of good years left in the tank and he's probably ready to make a move...that may or may not be to Arkansas. Not exactly a "Bert" resume but not far off absent some rose bowl appearances.  

Here's another little thing I think we can maybe jot down...there is a relationship between Fleck and Jerry Kill. Kill will no doubt be credited greatly for the success of Vandy and will probably be a hot commodity as a off-field assistant/consultant. Kill went to college up in Kansas maybe still has some roots in the area and maybe that's not so far from NWA...

You want a program fixer...you gotta go get Jerry Kill. If it weren't for health issues he'd probably be a top 5 coach in the nation. 

People are going to shit on this but Justin Fuente is a analyst at Indiana and like Kill probably has a little bit to do with their success...as we know he helped Memphis become the program it is today propelling himself, Cornrows, and perhaps soon Silverfield into P4 jobs. He would be another one of those guys you get that "knows the ground"...not advocating either Kill or Fuente for anything more than assistant/analyst positions but I think this is how you do it...I think you have to spend some real money on the back-end of the program on the hopes that it's going to get you results later on. Stop hiring 27 year old high school assistants to be your scouting department. 

[AporkalypseNow]

that's true for everyone outside of a few teams. indiana, texas tech are two that shows it can be done easily.

If Ole Miss can get players to move to little old remote Oxford, MS to play in that little stadium, we certainly can.

Vandy and Mizzou are doing well.  Indiana and Tech are great examples.

Some of the schools with the biggest advantages don't seem to be doing all that well

[HTL]

I think Petrino would be better. Of all the G5's being mentioned, I think he'd be much better over the next 3-5 years than any of those.

I'd love to see the vaunted glued in HTL's list of candidates that are way higher than him. But we all know that is just a fake persona and that he knows nothing.

Either way, I'd just love to see our athletic department actually vet viable candidates instead of taking recommendations from the likes of Jerry jones and Gustavo malazan and have some sort of plan for the future.

Nothing!

[BleedinRed]

If Ole Miss can get players to move to little old remote Oxford, MS to play in that little stadium, we certainly can.

Arkasnas fans amuse me wtih their take on Ole Miss.  First, Oxford is just as nice of a town as Fayetteville.  Honestly, it may be a little nicer. But I acknowledge that is opinion and one of those agree to disagree thangs.

The fact of the matter is Mississippi is 36% Black/55% white while Arkansas is 15% black/71% White.  

Lafayette County MS, home to Oxford, is 23% black while Washington County AR, home to Fayetteville, is 2%.

As much as we might all agree that Memphis sucks, it is still 45 minutes away from Oxford.  The closest city that anyone in Fayetteville, much less black kids, wants to visit is hours away.

Ole Miss has a shit ton of built in advantage when compared to Arkansas and the idea that Ole Miss' football program should never be better than Arkansas is crazy to me.

[HTL]

Oxford is not as nice as NWA. That's a bizarre take. Ole Miss does a much better job of branding though.

[FNG]

What was DVH upset about? The percentage allocated to baseball?

I suspect Tennessee is whispering in DVH's ear, "your girl Arkansas doesn't love and respect you like I will. Me love you long, long time."

[DirkPiggler]

Arkasnas fans amuse me wtih their take on Ole Miss.  First, Oxford is just as nice of a town as Fayetteville.  Honestly, it may be a little nicer. But I acknowledge that is opinion and one of those agree to disagree thangs.

The fact of the matter is Mississippi is 36% Black/55% white while Arkansas is 15% black/71% White. 

Lafayette County MS, home to Oxford, is 23% black while Washington County AR, home to Fayetteville, is 2%.

As much as we might all agree that Memphis sucks, it is still 45 minutes away from Oxford.  The closest city that anyone in Fayetteville, much less black kids, wants to visit is hours away.

Ole Miss has a shit ton of built in advantage when compared to Arkansas and the idea that Ole Miss' football program should never be better than Arkansas is crazy to me.

Oxford is like what Magnolia would be if SAU was in the SEC (or other major conference).  Or maybe Arkadelphia if Henderson/OBU were major colleges.