Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

Started by animal, Mar 08, 2023, 07:47 PM

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jdcatty

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Sep 17, 2023, 12:44 AMIf we move on from Sam, I'm sure our big money folks will be hot and heavy for Gus instead of someone like Elko. Hiring him seems to be something they can scratch off their bucket list.

They should be looking at Jeff Traylor
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bigpig

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Sep 17, 2023, 12:44 AMIf we move on from Sam, I'm sure our big money folks will be hot and heavy for Gus instead of someone like Elko. Hiring him seems to be something they can scratch off their bucket list.

Hiring Gus now would be even more embarrassing than if we hired him 4 years ago.

So yes, that is exactly the plan for some of our boosters.
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Pumpkin Escobar

Quote from: bigpig on Sep 17, 2023, 12:50 AMHiring Gus now would be even more embarrassing than if we hired him 4 years ago.

So yes, that is exactly the plan for some of our boosters.


We ARE Arkansas after all. We'll give Gus 9 million a year to fart out a few 8-5 seasons. Arkansas Proud will start posting again.



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animal

As bad as this season is looking like it's going to go it's almost a certainty that we are head coach shopping 🛒 by late November. No way to spin this shit...this was a major fuck up.

You live and die by decisions and Pittman made pretty good hires for the defense but Enos has been a terrible hire. Our recruiting for that side of the ball has not been good.

The good news is that recent shine that Barry Lunney Jr got at UTSA under Traylor is gone now that he's under Bert and his tits. So no backup plan for him.

That leaves a retirement gig for Gus who might just want to stay in Florida rather than get his teeth kicked in.

In fairness to Enos all of those long developing plays we ran looked like gold when it worked back in the Brandon Allen senior year...but I don't see this line being talented enough to get it done. We certainly missed Rocket tonight because he is something the defense must respect more so than the other backs


Early short list


Tulane coach
Byu coach
Ok state coach 😂
Army coach with his new OC
Duke coach
Kansas coach

Let's hope to God South Carolina offense doesn't suddenly explode this season...






"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

mde114

Pittman is not getting fired this year.

buff2.0

The retarded boosters who think we need an "Arkansas boy" who "understands the importance of recruiting in Texas" will 100% push for Gus.  That's not the worst case scenario.  What if we find ourselves needing a new Athletic Director in the next 2-3 years?  Resurgence's timing was too suspicious. 

Our program is dead because too many powers that be want mediocrity as long as it means they get influence. I wonder if someone told Lane Kiffin that being coach meant he'd have to make a certain number of public appearances including nephews and grandkids birthday parties.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

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Show-Me Hog

Kiffin would not have worked here. He's just not a cultural fit. He's not like us, and we're not like him. He hasn't been all that great at Ole Miss.

There is 0.0% chance this is Sam's last year, unless it is voluntary. He would have to have 2 losing/non-bowl years in a row, or 3-4 mediocre boring ones in a row, to get the ax.

Do you use ax or axe?

animal

We have a hee haw coaching staff and a mainly hee haw fan base so it only stands to reason you would placate to that with shined over reflections of the Nutt years. Ignoring the Petrino years...

I don't think anyone legit wanted the job when HY ended up hiring Pittman. I think the end goal now will be to somehow salvage the season and perhaps segway it into a semi desirable situation for the next hire

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

buff2.0

"Cultural fit".  I know what you mean by that but it still grinds my gears that cultural fit seems to be so important here.  Bobby Petrino wasn't like us either - mediocrity angered him and simply getting to a bowl was nothing to brag about.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

animal

Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 17, 2023, 07:47 AM"Cultural fit".  I know what you mean by that but it still grinds my gears that cultural fit seems to be so important here.  Bobby Petrino wasn't like us either - mediocrity angered him and simply getting to a bowl was nothing to brag about.
But that's the mentality and I'm kind of ok with it if the team takes on the personality of a physical demanding coach playing hard nosed football

But we arent seeing any of that nor is there any reason to expect it will happen this season.


Adam Ford had this shit fuckin nailed down.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

RazorB

Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 17, 2023, 07:33 AMThe retarded boosters who think we need an "Arkansas boy" who "understands the importance of recruiting in Texas" will 100% push for Gus.  That's not the worst case scenario.  What if we find ourselves needing a new Athletic Director in the next 2-3 years?  Resurgence's timing was too suspicious. 

Our program is dead because too many powers that be want mediocrity as long as it means they get influence. I wonder if someone told Lane Kiffin that being coach meant he'd have to make a certain number of public appearances including nephews and grandkids birthday parties.

They are afraid a Petrino type coach will come in again and have success with them looking on the outside in. None of them had the type of access they used to. It was a legit D1 program. Media complained about how strict it was with Petrino.

Trigger7672

Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 17, 2023, 07:47 AM"Cultural fit".  I know what you mean by that but it still grinds my gears that cultural fit seems to be so important here.  Bobby Petrino wasn't like us either - mediocrity angered him and simply getting to a bowl was nothing to brag about.

Obviously it's a different sport but Muss probably had never even stepped foot in Arkansas before he got here. Hire a guy who is obsessed with football and has an attention to detail. I want a lunatic like Muss/Petrino who the players are scared of. Fuck this shit. I almost dread going to football games now.

Feral

Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 17, 2023, 07:47 AM"Cultural fit".  I know what you mean by that but it still grinds my gears that cultural fit seems to be so important here.  Bobby Petrino wasn't like us either - mediocrity angered him and simply getting to a bowl was nothing to brag about.

Our fans and boosters don't want a guy like Kirby Smart who cusses like a sailor and couldn't give a shit about public appearances and kissing babies because he's a football-obsessed maniac.

In reality we want a guy who talks about Jesus and cobeers and is "one of us." 

Our fans and alumni are stuck in a bygone era and still think it's the 1970s.

- Our fans and media still largely refuse to accept NIL as a reality, and refer to it as "cheating" like it's the equivalent of 1980s SMU.

- We play a 'home' game every year 200 miles from campus in a stadium that holds 25k fewer fans than our home stadium cuz nostalgia reasons.

- Our boosters care more about access than winning, and they don't know anything about football.

- We still have fans and media talk about "John Barnhill's edict about never hiring an assistant to be our head coach." John Barnhill has been dead for 50 years.


I've said it before and I'll say it again — the college football world will stop treating us like a small time program when we stop acting like one.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Sep 17, 2023, 08:25 AMObviously it's a different sport but Muss probably had never even stepped foot in Arkansas before he got here. Hire a guy who is obsessed with football and has an attention to detail. I want a lunatic like Muss/Petrino who the players are scared of. Fuck this shit. I almost dread going to football games now.

Muss = Petrino and both seem like cultural fits to me, for the programs they led. Type AAA sport focused maniacs. Kiffin is not that.

Partly Joey Freshwater, partly his laid back California guy persona. Neither Muss nor Petrino are anything like that.


Feral

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 17, 2023, 09:02 AMPartly Joey Freshwater, partly his laid back California guy persona. Neither Muss nor Petrino are anything like that

Neither Freshwater nor Leach would've fit in here.

I would've loved either of them, but they're both aloof and neither would've spent time blowing Fayetteville or talking about how great the state of Arkansas is and how awesome our fans are.

Both would've just shrugged when asked softball bullshit questions by the Bob Holts of the world about "talk about how great the state is, huh?"

jdcatty

Quote from: Feral on Sep 17, 2023, 08:56 AMOur fans and boosters don't want a guy like Kirby Smart who cusses like a sailor and couldn't give a shit about public appearances and kissing babies because he's a football-obsessed maniac.

In reality we want a guy who talks about Jesus and cobeers and is "one of us." 

Our fans and alumni are stuck in a bygone era and still think it's the 1970s.

- Our fans and media still largely refuse to accept NIL as a reality, and refer to it as "cheating" like it's the equivalent of 1980s SMU.

- We play a 'home' game every year 200 miles from campus in a stadium that holds 25k fewer fans than our home stadium cuz nostalgia reasons.

- Our boosters care more about access than winning, and they don't know anything about football.

- We still have fans and media talk about "John Barnhill's edict about never hiring an assistant to be our head coach." John Barnhill has been dead for 50 years.


I've said it before and I'll say it again — the college football world will stop treating us like a small time program when we stop acting like one.

There you go, that's the answer.  Blame it on the fans.
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buff2.0

If Petrino was a "cultural fit" here why haven't we tried in my lifetime to hire another football coach like him?  Going back to Hatfield which coach fit that same mold that he did? Who else obsessed over details so much that they waited a year knowing they already had a TD play ready for LSU?
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Guardrail

Quote from: buff2.0 on Sep 17, 2023, 07:47 AM"Cultural fit".  I know what you mean by that but it still grinds my gears that cultural fit seems to be so important here.  Bobby Petrino wasn't like us either - mediocrity angered him and simply getting to a bowl was nothing to brag about.
I'll go a step further. Petrino may have been a big fat meanie, but he DID care about the state and the people here. Didn't he go to Children's hospital and even donated money? I recall he did some community things and people liked him. He just wasnt into the handjobbery of the media and hangers-on.
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buff2.0

Quote from: Guardrail on Sep 17, 2023, 09:26 AMI'll go a step further. Petrino may have been a big fat meanie, but he DID care about the state and the people here. Didn't he go to Children's hospital and even donated money? I recall he did some community things and people liked him. He just wasnt into the handjobbery of the media and hangers-on.

Called us a dream job and signed a long term contract with buyout terms that heavily favored the school.

Just didn't like the handjobbery. Lol I remember the media outrage when that bitch wore a Florida hat to his presser, HE ANSWERED HER QUESTION, and then said that was the last question of her's that he'd answer with that hat on.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Texzilla

Zero chance Sam gets fired barring a for cause termination involving a foot in his desk or some Sandusky action.  Yuri wouldn't shitcan him for a motorcycle wreck with a lady volleyball player.

There is no excuse for the shittiness of this coaching staff.  Pittman has a very generous budget to get excellent coaches. He doesn't.