Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

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buff2.0

Jedd Fisch wants out of Washington
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 07, 2025, 05:15 PMJedd Fisch wants out of Washington

That's your next Florida coach.
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egregious

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 07, 2025, 05:31 PMThat's your next Florida coach.

That is about as far out of Washington as he could get, except for maybe Hawaii.
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egregious

Quote from: passed on Nov 07, 2025, 12:46 PMI seem to remember him having a poor record against ranked opponents.  Well, here that's all he's going to be playing except a couple of games a year.

I don't remember the quote exactly, but it was something along the lines of the UCLA interim coach tying him in top 10 wins when UCLA beat them.
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: egregious on Nov 07, 2025, 05:51 PMThat is about as far out of Washington as he could get, except for maybe Hawaii.

He is a Florida alum.   I imagine that's his end goal.
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AporkalypseNow

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 07, 2025, 10:59 AMThe On3 board (formerly Rivals) has basically the same intel...Franklin or bust with a big salary and NIL war chest.  I'll believe it when I see it.

Franklin is a damned good coach.  Normally I'm quick to rule out anyone who got fired from another job, but Penn State's trigger was awfully quick for a guy who had won eleven or more games in over half his seasons there, including thirteen and a semifinal appearance last season. 

He's a good recruiter, familiar with the SEC from his time at Vanderbilt, and could likely bring some dudes from Penn State via the portal.  His floor is probably similar to Bobby's with a higher ceiling.  But the biggest asset would be the message hiring JF would send to the sport...that we're not going to settle for being subordinate to schools like Ole Miss and Missouri which have always been beneath us until the last few years.  We can spend as much as anyone (more than those two) if we choose to do so and a couple of billionaires are motivated, which Franklin's hire would indicate to be the case. 

Agree.

Also hope Penn State gets the USC-style reality check. 

arreferee

Quote from: egregious on Nov 07, 2025, 05:54 PMI don't remember the quote exactly, but it was something along the lines of the UCLA interim coach tying him in top 10 wins when UCLA beat them.

This is from an ESPN article a few weeks ago:

The Nittany Lions fell at home in double overtime to Oregon, dropping Franklin to 4-21 at Penn State against AP top-10 opponents, including 1-18 against top-10 Big Ten teams in conference games. Franklin's .160 winning percentage against AP top-10 teams is tied for the third-worst record by a coach (minimum 25 games) at a single school since the poll era began in 1936, according to ESPN Research. Penn State has not defeated a Big Ten top 10 opponent since knocking off Ohio State in 2016.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: arreferee on Nov 10, 2025, 10:05 AMThis is from an ESPN article a few weeks ago:

The Nittany Lions fell at home in double overtime to Oregon, dropping Franklin to 4-21 at Penn State against AP top-10 opponents, including 1-18 against top-10 Big Ten teams in conference games. Franklin's .160 winning percentage against AP top-10 teams is tied for the third-worst record by a coach (minimum 25 games) at a single school since the poll era began in 1936, according to ESPN Research. Penn State has not defeated a Big Ten top 10 opponent since knocking off Ohio State in 2016.

To be fair it's not like Penn State had a whole lot of top ten opponents prior to joining the Big Ten.  Many of the ones they did face were either in bowls or likely other similarly overrated opponents from their region. 

Franklin's record was significantly better than Joe Pedo's was after joining the B1G. 
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arreferee

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 10, 2025, 10:24 AMTo be fair it's not like Penn State had a whole lot of top ten opponents prior to joining the Big Ten.  Many of the ones they did face were either in bowls or likely other similarly overrated opponents from their region. 

Franklin's record was significantly better than Joe Pedo's was after joining the B1G. 

Are you trying to say his record isn't as bad as it looks?  The article wasn't comparing him to other PSU coaches, it was comparing him to other NCAA coaches.

"Franklin's .160 winning percentage against AP top-10 teams is tied for the third-worst record by a coach (minimum 25 games) at a single school since the poll era began in 1936, according to ESPN Research. Penn State has not defeated a Big Ten top 10 opponent since knocking off Ohio State in 2016."

DirkPiggler

Quote from: arreferee on Nov 10, 2025, 10:59 AMAre you trying to say his record isn't as bad as it looks?  The article wasn't comparing him to other PSU coaches, it was comparing him to other NCAA coaches.

"Franklin's .160 winning percentage against AP top-10 teams is tied for the third-worst record by a coach (minimum 25 games) at a single school since the poll era began in 1936, according to ESPN Research. Penn State has not defeated a Big Ten top 10 opponent since knocking off Ohio State in 2016."

Not really, although I tend to give more weight to his overall record than his percentage against top ten teams.  The teams he's faced are almost exclusively Ohio State during one of their most successful periods in history and Michigan who has a title and another playoff spot while he's been there.  The only reason we're talking about Franklin as a fired coach is that Penn State's admin panicked.  They let the old pedo enabler survive through multiple losing seasons, yet fired Franklin after one slow start a year removed from 13 wins and the national semis, which happened a year after 10-3 and a NY6 bowl and two years after 11-2 and a Rose Bowl.

I don't really mind if he loses most of the time when we play Alabama and Georgia.  We need to get back to where we can beat Ole Miss (I know they're top ten now, but they won't be forever), Miss State, and the like regularly first.  If we're sitting here in five years with multiple ten win years and bitching about how he can't beat Alabama or Texas, I can live with that.
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arreferee

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 10, 2025, 11:18 AMNot really, although I tend to give more weight to his overall record than his percentage against top ten teams.  The teams he's faced are almost exclusively Ohio State during one of their most successful periods in history and Michigan who has a title and another playoff spot while he's been there.  The only reason we're talking about Franklin as a fired coach is that Penn State's admin panicked.  They let the old pedo enabler survive through multiple losing seasons, yet fired Franklin after one slow start a year removed from 13 wins and the national semis, which happened a year after 10-3 and a NY6 bowl and two years after 11-2 and a Rose Bowl.

I don't really mind if he loses most of the time when we play Alabama and Georgia.  We need to get back to where we can beat Ole Miss (I know they're top ten now, but they won't be forever), Miss State, and the like regularly first.  If we're sitting here in five years with multiple ten win years and bitching about how he can't beat Alabama or Texas, I can live with that.

Gotcha.  I think I sorta misread your first post. 

DirkPiggler

Quote from: arreferee on Nov 10, 2025, 11:19 AMGotcha.  I think I sorta misread your first post. 

No I think I argued against something you didn't say, like my hero John White.  My bad. 

The record should be concerning for a team in Penn State's spot.  I just don't think we're to the point where that is relevant to us yet. 
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vegashog


buff2.0

Greatest. Coaching Search. Evar.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 10, 2025, 12:46 PMGreatest. Coaching Search. Evar.
i assume this also impacts their NIL money
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Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 10, 2025, 01:14 PMi assume this also impacts their NIL money

unless they get a handout from the state government, they'll have to get some boosters to foot the bill, so yeah, it will affect their nil when it comes to soliciting the same boosters for money.
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vegashog

it may or may not. don't think that's the worst part of this for lsu.

kelley went into a meeting to discuss staff changes and gets fired by the ad. the governor steps in, fires that ad and says a bunch of ridiculous shit about the ncaa investigating an agent that represents their so called favorite candidate.

now they expect kelley, who was not fired for cause, to somehow agree to millions less in buyout money....just because. i'm sure kiffin and sexton are looking at all this and saying fuck that.

SwahiliSteve

Doesn't orgeron want the job and will go for cheap? 
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Show-Me Hog

BMFP to Auburn?

As OC.  He's not mentioned, but completely parsing based on this analysis.

Hearing that Sumrall is a top name for Auburn, Matt Barrie also gave his own thumbs-up on the potential pairing between the current Tulane coach and the Auburn Tigers: I agree. I think Sumrall is a home run at Auburn. He's from Alabama. He grew up in the state."

He's also well-versed in SEC culture and SEC football, having once played at Kentucky while previously serving as the Kentucky linebackers coach under Mark Stoops before he earned his first head coaching gig with Troy.

"He's going to have to bring an offense with him," Barrie added. "A defensive-minded head coach, a former linebacker at Kentucky. So that's just his side of the ball. So they're going to have to do something to keep the fans engaged in the offense."

rzrbkfan69

In reading the mess about Brian Kelly, I noticed that none other than Julie Cromer is the deputy AD at LSU.