Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

vegashog · Nov 30, 2025, 01:27 PM

the kiffin stuff started as soon as kelley was fired. there was zero chance that his possibly going to lsu would have just been kept quiet.

Thin Red Swine · Nov 30, 2025, 01:31 PM

This guy hosts an Ole Miss podcast, no idea if he is legit. The people in the comments aren't flaming him so maybe he's close to the situation.

https://x.com/michaelborkey/status/1995155379517534564?s=46&t=kisRHQ-BH2YlHJQ0hr0_Kg

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:32 PM

Leadership council?

AporkalypseNow · Nov 30, 2025, 01:33 PM

Quote from: aaron on Nov 30, 2025, 01:24 PMKeith Carter forced it. Lane was just doing his job and keeping his mouth shut. Ole miss forced a new contract being signed, or announce for LSU. Lane didn't want to make anything known until after the playoffs.

On what planet is that acceptable?

Coaching searches done AFTER the bowl season traditionally... not so good

Lane's already left OM behind the 8 ball

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:35 PM

The early signing period and portal entry has compounded the issue.

TC · Nov 30, 2025, 01:40 PM

Quote from: aaron on Nov 30, 2025, 01:24 PMKeith Carter forced it. Lane was just doing his job and keeping his mouth shut. Ole miss forced a new contract being signed, or announce for LSU. Lane didn't want to make anything known until after the playoffs.

Of course he forced it, and rightly so. Once the AD realized he's going to LSU, a conference rival, it's time to turn in the keys and GTFO.

There's no swan song, say your goodbyes, and coach the last few games. The school now needs to focus on moving forward without him NOW, with early signing in 3 days, not in a couple of weeks when Kiffin decides on his terms when it's time to go.

aaron · Nov 30, 2025, 01:40 PM

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 01:33 PMOn what planet is that acceptable?

Coaching searches done AFTER the bowl season traditionally... not so good

Lane's already left OM behind the 8 ball

Any chance they had at a title is now gone. The players and staff will completely turn over. How is letting him coach his team a risk? Again, lane had no obligation to tell anyone anything. Carter forced this. For what? To save some face? Good luck preparing for the playoffs and winning a game now.

TC · Nov 30, 2025, 01:45 PM

Guy in the comments nailed it..

When you started dating the hot but noticeably crazy chic back 5 years ago, you knew there'd be an ugly break up one day...but man, it was fun...til it wasn't.

AporkalypseNow · Nov 30, 2025, 01:46 PM

Quote from: TC on Nov 30, 2025, 01:45 PMGuy in the comments nailed it..

When you started dating the hot but noticeably crazy chic back 5 years ago, you knew there'd be an ugly break up one day...but man, it was fun...til it wasn't.

Yup, and we all knew 5 years ago that if we got Kiffin it would be a lot of fun until it wasn't, and it wouldn't end well.

AporkalypseNow · Nov 30, 2025, 01:47 PM

Quote from: aaron on Nov 30, 2025, 01:40 PMAny chance they had at a title is now gone. The players and staff will completely turn over. How is letting him coach his team a risk? Again, lane had no obligation to tell anyone anything. Carter forced this. For what? To save some face? Good luck preparing for the playoffs and winning a game now.

You think they win a title with everyone thinking their coach is leaving as soon as they lose?

Team, staff, etc were going to fall apart. Come on now...

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:48 PM

Quote from: aaron on Nov 30, 2025, 01:40 PMAny chance they had at a title is now gone. The players and staff will completely turn over. How is letting him coach his team a risk? Again, lane had no obligation to tell anyone anything. Carter forced this. For what? To save some face? Good luck preparing for the playoffs and winning a game now.

I'm with you.

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:49 PM

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 01:47 PMYou think they win a title with everyone thinking their coach is leaving as soon as they lose?

Team, staff, etc were going to fall apart. Come on now...

Maybe, maybe not, but I'd like my chances with Kiffen coaching that team over anyone else.

TC · Nov 30, 2025, 01:50 PM

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 01:46 PMYup, and we all knew 5 years ago that if we got Kiffin it would be a lot of fun until it wasn't, and it wouldn't end well.

Even given that, everyone of us would still trade places with them in a heartbeat.
-Captain Obvious

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:51 PM

Quote from: TC on Nov 30, 2025, 01:50 PMEven given that, everyone of us would still trade places with them in a heartbeat.

Wouldn't blink twice.

AporkalypseNow · Nov 30, 2025, 01:53 PM

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 01:49 PMMaybe, maybe not, but I'd like my chances with Kiffen coaching that team over anyone else.

Maybe. But if he's leaving are you going to trade a better chance for a win or two now for missing the opportunity to replace him and costing you 4-5 years moving forward?

After the playoffs most coaching targets have either moved to a new school or have signed extensions and are for all intents and purposes off the market.

I don't know, I think Lane is the one that looks bad here.

TC · Nov 30, 2025, 01:56 PM

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 30, 2025, 01:49 PMMaybe, maybe not, but I'd like my chances with Kiffen coaching that team over anyone else.

And it's not a given that you win a single game in the playoffs, while you missed any jump on early signing, and watching next year's class fall apart over the coming weeks, AND probably losing a good deal of any goodwill you had as AD with the fanbase for letting that shit show continue.

Carter played the best hand he could from the cards Kiffin dealt him, and Kiffin is the one making this WAY messier than it had to be.

AporkalypseNow · Nov 30, 2025, 01:57 PM

Mich State fires their coach and looking hard at Pat Fitzgerald

I think this would be a solid hire for them

Barton Fink · Nov 30, 2025, 01:58 PM

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 30, 2025, 01:53 PMMaybe. But if he's leaving are you going to trade a better chance for a win or two now for missing the opportunity to replace him and costing you 4-5 years moving forward?

After the playoffs most coaching targets have either moved to a new school or have signed extensions and are for all intents and purposes off the market.

I don't know, I think Lane is the one that looks bad here.

You can still hire a coach if he coaches the season through. Just like when coaches would be fired and coached through a bowl game back in the day.

What's the harm if he coached and lost? Program is still 11-1 and in the playoff. But what if he coaches and they win it all. That is a huge benefit for the coach coming in.

To me reward > risk.

RPL · Nov 30, 2025, 01:58 PM

Kiffin has a total lack of empathy. He's not a narcissist. It is almost like he's on the spectrum and...oh, shiny new object...must play with.

LSU will learn this when the Bama job comes open in a couple of years. Heck, they may learn it in the next couple of weeks.

It would be so Kiffin to ditch LSU if DeBoer bounces to Pedo State.

DirkPiggler · Nov 30, 2025, 02:02 PM

Quote from: TC on Nov 30, 2025, 01:56 PMAnd it's not a given that you win a single game in the playoffs, while you missed any jump on early signing, and watching next year's class fall apart over the coming weeks, AND probably losing a good deal of any goodwill you had as AD with the fanbase for letting that shit show continue.

Carter played the best hand he could from the cards Kiffin dealt him, and Kiffin is the one making this WAY messier than it had to be.

100%.

They weren't winning a title and Carter knows it. No sense in letting the head coach of the school you hate the most have access to all your recruits and current players to try to take them with you.