Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[animal]

I don't get excited about anyone now because of the good odds they'll be gone in a year

[BASS]

I don't get excited about anyone now because of the good odds they'll be gone in a year

This is me

[Lurk]

This is me

I don't get excited about anyone now because of the good odds they'll be gone in a year

Or if they don't like spring ball, before they ever play a down here.

[vegashog]

so just to be clear, it's no big deal when the best high school players in the state go elsewhere, correct?

won't be any blaming the coach, whoever it may be.

[Piggielicious]

To be clear, the coach is blamed for losing no matter what state the players come from.

[vegashog]

that wasn't the question, but whatever.

[BASS]

so just to be clear, it's no big deal when the best high school players in the state go elsewhere, correct?

won't be any blaming the coach, whoever it may be.

Under the old system, things like relationships, demeanor, candor, getting them on campus all were part of the equation and are the responsibility of the coach.

Under the new system, none of that matters, it's a money problem only. We  have no way of knowing who offered what, so it doesn't make sense to blame the coach.

[bogeyfree]

When do we get to start trading these "student athletes"?  Since they all, at least for the major sports, seem to be professionals now, why shouldn't they be able to be traded?

I am definitely ready for someone to figure out how to put some sort of guardrails or structure to all of this.  It is a one sided shitshow right now.

[vegashog]

Under the old system, things like relationships, demeanor, candor, getting them on campus all were part of the equation and are the responsibility of the coach.

Under the new system, none of that matters, it's a money problem only. We  have no way of knowing who offered what, so it doesn't make sense to blame the coach.

i agree.

i was just asking because when the top in state players the last two years went to other sec schools, there was a lot said about it, none of it good when it came to the  hc coach.

[Barton Fink]

HC is practically a non factor in recruiting these days.

[Ray Zorback]

HC is practically a non factor in recruiting these days.

Well, who is deciding how much to offer each player?

[Pig Benis]

Well, who is deciding how much to offer each player?

Or which players to pursue

[animal]

We're having two or maybe three different conversations here it seems. Caring, Wanting, and Needing are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Yes it's a big deal in terms of we (Arkansas) needs to get every "good" player in-state that comes down the pipeline. Likewise Arkansas needs to find a way to somehow manufacturer some luck with some in-state evaluations on what we would normally call reaches. But do I personally feel nearly as emotionally invested? NOPE.

Where I see Arkansas being successful at is getting those smaller school guys out of the portal and showing they can play at the SEC/P4 level. Our staff still seems a lot more focused on getting guys with multiple years of eligibility many of which out of small schools but not all. I haven't seen anyone we've landed out of the portal (this period) that only had a year left. We're loaded with Juniors and Sophs out of the portal. Not so long ago we would be trying to find ways of filling class gaps from earlier defections to try to balance it all out. I'm not sure that's even a thing now but somehow I think Sam is still trying to build a roster always for the next coach only he's managing to stick around.

[The Whyte Boar]

When I think of an cutting edge, extremely organized, and highly professional organization designed to excel in this cutthroat age of professional football and unlimited free agency, Sam Pittman comes to mind. lol

[Show-Me Hog]

It really comes down to, as a fan, would you rather suck than participate in all the bullshit that college sports has become?

I'm really on the fence on that one. Asking me to donate so 18 year old kids will come here for a year or two before transferring somewhere else, knocks me off that fence.

I'd rather suck.

[Barton Fink]

Well, who is deciding how much to offer each player?

I'm saying the kid isn't picking the school based on the HC. Just a few years ago the HC was probably 80% of the reason.

TT is cleaning up in the portal and I couldn't tell you who their coach is.

[TC]

I'm saying the kid isn't picking the school based on the HC. Just a few years ago the HC was probably 80% of the reason.
 

Which is odd given that our coach drops cringe shit like "we're a blue light special program," then turns around and says "we have the money," when questioned about players transferring out.

So if it's not the money, and now youre saying its not the coach, then who or what is it?

[animal]

We have the money...for blue light special players.

[Barton Fink]

Which is odd given that our coach drops cringe shit like "we're a blue light special program," then turns around and says "we have the money," when questioned about players transferring out.

So if it's not the money, and now youre saying its not the coach, then who or what is it?

You seem to like following me around yet can't keep up.

I've always said it's about the money. Kid's are gonna choose the school that will pay the most. If we had had $50M in NIL, we would would get better players. Getting better players impacts wins/losses more than anything.

As fas as the BLS comment, every coach we've had since we've been in the SEC has done something just as bad, if not worse.

Crowe - Citadel
Ford - I didn't know we scored
Nutt - Take your pick
Petrino - Neck brace
Smith - Smile
Bert - Crying at press conferences
Chud - Clud dub, TX HS Friday night, etc

Sure Puttman didn't do any good by saying it but you gotta be pretty damn sensitive to be bothered by it.

[TC]

Following you around? Dear baby Jesus, you post 5 times on every page of the thread, and likely have 80% of the posts in it. Regardless, his comment didn't bother me as much as I thought it was just plain stupid, and you hadn't even seen it before filling up a couple of pages on your opinion of it.

But your answer is mostly gibberish and those coaches weren't "dealing" with NIL, which is why Sam's comment is different. Petrino falling off a motorcycle and lying about it has fuck all to do with Sam's poor mouthing, and blaming his shit record on lack of money, then weeks later telling everyone we have the money.

So it's not about the money, and accordingly it sounds like you don't think it's coaching either. So what is it then? Why are we in a race to lead the nation in transfers leaving when according to Sam we have the money?