Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[DirkPiggler]

I simply can't believe that any coach, including Sam, whose longevity as a coach is tied to wins would willingly and knowingly not play his best players. 

Maybe Sam can't evaluate who the best players are but I don't believe for one second he is intentionally playing the lesser players due to something like seniority. 

I think Sam and plenty of other coaches look at it like this.  If you have two (or more) guys vying for a spot and you expect similar production out of each of them, you play the guy who's been there longer. 

I think that's backwards logic, especially if the older guy is in his last year of eligibility.  Play the guy who is going to be around longer and has time to improve. 

[BleedinRed]

I think Sam and plenty of other coaches look at it like this.  If you have two (or more) guys vying for a spot and you expect similar production out of each of them, you play the guy who's been there longer. 

I think that's backwards logic, especially if the older guy is in his last year of eligibility.  Play the guy who is going to be around longer and has time to improve. 

I'll buy that and agree.  

But in your scenario he isn't playing a worse player because of seniority.  

[animal]

We (Arkansas) are still taking the long term "development" view of players in a world of 1 year NIL deals (in essence) and players trying to get their dollars up the moment they do something of note. I don't doubt for a second that Sam is so risk averse that he would try to keep a few horses in the barn because in their view the older guys are equal to or slightly better. 

James has talent, he's got speed but none of us saw the practices. All we know is after the game Sam acted like the cat swallowed the canary and of course that lasted all of about 2 days. I think the coaches were as surprised by that performance as we were but of course he's gonna come out and tell everyone he knew it all along.

[DirkPiggler]

I'll buy that and agree. 

But in your scenario he isn't playing a worse player because of seniority. 

If we're talking about playing Broden versus pretty much anyone, I disagree. 

The guy has Randy Moss measurables, so I get the infatuation and giving him a shot.   But after the second or third time he drops a ball that hit him dead center of his skillet hands, gives up on a 50/50 ball leading to an INT, or gets alligator arms at the thought of a safety giving up half a foot and 20-30 lbs, you have to try someone else.

For the record I put that decision more on Petrino and Foutch than Pittman.   I doubt Sam is overruling BP on personnel decisions. 

[passed]

If we're talking about playing Broden versus pretty much anyone, I disagree. 

The guy has Randy Moss measurables, so I get the infatuation and giving him a shot.   But after the second or third time he drops a ball that hit him dead center of his skillet hands, gives up on a 50/50 ball leading to an INT, or gets alligator arms at the thought of a safety giving up half a foot and 20-30 lbs, you have to try someone else.

For the record I put that decision more on Petrino and Foutch than Pittman.   I doubt Sam is overruling BP on personnel decisions. 

I won't disagree here.  However, it is probably safe to assume that James either hasn't really shown out in practice or his route running wasn't up to par.  Bobby can be stubborn about measurable, but he's never been one to play the less capable player unless they simply don't know the offense (and therefore can't be on the field most of the time) or their routes aren't precise.  My guess is, the guy is still learning the offense and they were forced to play him by attrition.  Or the kid is a gamer, they type that doesn't practice well, but in a game everything clicks and he plays up to his level.

[Thin Red Swine]

I won't disagree here.  However, it is probably safe to assume that James either hasn't really shown out in practice or his route running wasn't up to par.  Bobby can be stubborn about measurable, but he's never been one to play the less capable player unless they simply don't know the offense (and therefore can't be on the field most of the time) or their routes aren't precise.  My guess is, the guy is still learning the offense and they were forced to play him by attrition.  Or the kid is a gamer, they type that doesn't practice well, but in a game everything clicks and he plays up to his level.

That's the likely reason but if so Petrino may need to re-think it considering that his quarterback is so inaccurate and many plays devolve to playground ball. We need guys who can be fast enough to run to an open spot and/or big and tough enough to fight for the ball.

[Son of Spam]

That's the likely reason but if so Petrino may need to re-think it considering that his quarterback is so inaccurate and many plays devolve to playground ball. We need guys who can be fast enough to run to an open spot and/or big and tough enough to fight for the ball.

So Bob Hayes?

[Thin Red Swine]

So Bob Hayes?

Does he still have eligibility? Dig him up.

[The Whyte Boar]

I don't recall Petrino ever having trouble getting the most talented guys on the field. 

[The Whyte Boar]

Does he still have eligibility? Dig him up.

A new court decision says that being dead doesn't count against your eligibility.

[DrMongoose]

I really wonder if the old Petrino would tolerate green being his QB. Maybe why that is why he got Nico's brother as Sam wouldn't cut green loose.

All the sloppiness we saw this year on offense  the HC Bobby woukd have had some asses in a sling. Has he gone soft?

[animal]

I really wonder if the old Petrino would tolerate green being his QB. Maybe why that is why he got Nico's brother as Sam wouldn't cut green loose.

All the sloppiness we saw this year on offense  the HC Bobby woukd have had some asses in a sling. Has he gone soft?

Petrino is an old man and his best success was a guy by the name of Lamar Jackson. He's been chasing after those types of players ever since and will probably go the rest of his career never finding another as good.

[vegashog]

petrino wanted green and told pittman to get him.

signed nico's brother because he fell into our lap after singleton left. it isn't a matter of sam not cutting him.

[Usafhawg]

Petrino is an old man and his best success was a guy by the name of Lamar Jackson. He's been chasing after those types of players ever since and will probably go the rest of his career never finding another as good.

Probably? Lamar might have the best passer rating EVER after Saturday. On top of that, he has 900 rushing yards. It is pretty safe to say nobody will find another Lamar for a LONG time.

[Hogfan58]

Juncaj declares for the draft. Did he play in any game other than the Liberty Bowl?

[Cerdo]

He actually had a big game much earlier this year.

[Feral]

Juncaj declares for the draft. Did he play in any game other than the Liberty Bowl?

There were more than a few games where he didn't piss a drop, but I was actually hoping he'd come back.

[dhog]

Milroe declares for the NFL draft and Mel Kipr has him as the #3 QB? WTF?

[The Whyte Boar]

Juncaj declares for the draft. Did he play in any game other than the Liberty Bowl?

Wasn't that guy like an FCS first team All American?  He can probably get on an NFL practice and if he only makes the $12,500 a week minimum, that's still pretty dang good.  More money than he would make in NIL anywhere.

[Barton Fink]

Milroe declares for the NFL draft and Mel Kipr has him as the #3 QB? WTF?

If I'm not mistaken, he has Carson Beck as the #4 QB. This may be the worst QB class of all time.