Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

Started by Texzilla, Dec 02, 2024, 06:17 PM

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aaron

I hate this NIL shit. I was originally all for it so these guys could make money on Jersey sales, instagram followers, being in commercials, ect. Things they couldn't do before. Now it's all greed, bullshit, and corruption. This is not going to be sustainable.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: aaron on Apr 22, 2025, 10:21 AMI hate this NIL shit. I was originally all for it so these guys could make money on Jersey sales, instagram followers, being in commercials, ect. Things they couldn't do before. Now it's all greed, bullshit, and corruption. This is not going to be sustainable.

Some of us told you this was where it would go.  This is nothing new.  We've been down this road before.  It started in the 1920s when college football was bigger than anything other than baseball.  It's why the rules for amateurism and payments were so strict.  As soon as the shackles were loosened in the slightest it was and always was going to be Katy Bar the Door.

Pig Benis

https://x.com/hunteryurachek/status/1914730222378680427

I can't tell if this means we got clowned by I'maleavin and have no recourse, or if it means we're starting with him to make an example.
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jdcatty

Quote from: Pig Benis on Apr 22, 2025, 12:57 PMhttps://x.com/hunteryurachek/status/1914730222378680427

I can't tell if this means we got clowned by I'maleavin and have no recourse, or if it means we're starting with him to make an example.

If there is an agreement to be enforced and "matters to be resolved" sounds like we are trying to enforce something to me.
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Lurk

Start eating those NIL dollars up with legal fees. That's a way to possibly stop this crap.
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BASS

Sounds like a way to hit yourself in the face with a shovel on the recruiting front
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: BASS on Apr 22, 2025, 01:09 PMSounds like a way to hit yourself in the face with a shovel on the recruiting front

Yes. 

Just like requiring non-compete clauses for assistants kept quality coaches from coming here under Kermit the Frog.

If you're going to go after these guys for contractual violations, for God's sakes don't advertise it. 
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Lurk

Quote from: BASS on Apr 22, 2025, 01:09 PMSounds like a way to hit yourself in the face with a shovel on the recruiting front
At this point, what difference does it make?
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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 22, 2025, 01:11 PMYes. 

Just like requiring non-compete clauses for assistants kept quality coaches from coming here under Kermit the Frog.

If you're going to go after these guys for contractual violations, for God's sakes don't advertise it. 

What?

Shout it from the mountaintops.

Tennessee seems to be doing pretty well PR wise from the Nico caper.

DirkPiggler

#1629
Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 22, 2025, 01:24 PMWhat?

Shout it from the mountaintops.

Tennessee seems to be doing pretty well PR wise from the Nico caper.

Tennessee hasn't, to my knowledge, sued Nico to reclaim anything they might have paid him. 

If we start suing kids for breach of contract, agents are going to steer them to schools that are more permissive.  While I agree with the sentiment of holding them to their agreements, all the players are going to see is "they won't pay me" without understanding why.  In most of these cases you aren't dealing with educated people who understand that there are consequences for their actions...that goes for the players and the agents.

If the goal is to have the moral high ground and not get fucked over by any prima donnas, then by all means carry on.  Just do so with the understanding that a majority of the talent pool consists of prima donnas who are likely to balk, or who at least will require higher prices to account for the risk of having to actually live up to the deal.  Personally since little of it is my money, I'd just as soon keep the prospective recruiting pool as open as possible and let some other entity drive the corrections to the system.
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vegashog

redshirt freshman qb from fsu to visit tomorrow per the twitters.

if true, it makes me doubt there was any kind of promise given as to how many quarterbacks the staff was taking this cycle.

Pig Benis

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 22, 2025, 01:11 PMYes. 

Just like requiring non-compete clauses for assistants kept quality coaches from coming here under Kermit the Frog.

If you're going to go after these guys for contractual violations, for God's sakes don't advertise it. 

My assumption is/was that he had a buyout clause that we would enforce publicly. If that's the case I see no problem with it. Auburn is doing the same with Baker-Mazzara.

However, it's Arkansas so we probably weren't that forward thinking...or we copied and pasted the wrong amount from another contract.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Texzilla

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 22, 2025, 01:25 PMTennessee hasn't, to my knowledge, sued Nico to reclaim anything they might have paid him. 

If we start suing kids for breach of contract, agents are going to steer them to schools that are more permissive.  While I agree with the sentiment of holding them to their agreements, all the players are going to see is "they won't pay me" without understanding why.  In most of these cases you aren't dealing with educated people who understand that there are consequences for their actions...that goes for the players and the agents.

If the goal is to have the moral high ground and not get fucked over by any prima donnas, then by all means carry on.  Just do so with the understanding that a majority of the talent pool consists of prima donnas who are likely to balk, or who at least will require higher prices to account for the risk of having to actually live up to the deal.  Personally since little of it is my money, I'd just as soon keep the prospective recruiting pool as open as possible and let some other entity drive the corrections to the system.

I think the daddy is the agent for these two moops, and I doubt a legit agent would steer a player to do this.  If there is a contractual obligation that daddy didn't read before directing his spawn to take less money, then let's get it back.

The ncaa or conferences need to certify every agent like the nfl for these kids and require their use to insure they at least get some advice from an expert party. No agent would want to take credit for the stupid actions by these brothers, and it will actually help their case in repping kids.  Go on your own and you might be Nico.

Hy probably called the daddy and said good luck but we need our money back per the terms of your son's nil agreement, so just send us a money order.  Daddy probably said fuck off, so Hy starts the FAFO process.  Daddy probably thinks ucla will pay it.


animal

Dollars to donuts one or both will hit the portal again within the calendar year.
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vegashog

#1635
interested to see how that might play out.

arkansas state law doesn't allow the school to pay nil directly so maybe he means the collective or possible revenue sharing money he got up front?

edit: just read a cbs article and it's the collective that can sue.

BleedinRed

I hope they do.  Fuck these players and their handlers doing this shit. 

HOGSRUNWILD

That family is trash and if they caught a stray from a drive-by...I wouldn't shed a tear.

Sus-Scrofa

I'd really rather Arkansas not take the lead in bringing a lawsuit against a college football player.

Even if we win, the first team to do it is going to get wrecked with recruits.  Probably better to let some other team be the trendsetter.

HogOfWar

Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Apr 23, 2025, 12:25 PMI'd really rather Arkansas not take the lead in bringing a lawsuit against a college football player.

Even if we win, the first team to do it is going to get wrecked with recruits.  Probably better to let some other team be the trendsetter.

I don't think we'll notice these days.
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