Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[Show-Me Hog]

i've shown the rules. now you show me where players are bound to stay at a school because of nil deals or they are based on performance. not anecdotes, but real rules.

I already covered this. It's not NCAA rules. It's what a rational person would put in the contract.

[DirkPiggler]

i've shown the rules. now you show me where players are bound to stay at a school because of nil deals or they are based on performance. not anecdotes, but real rules.

bottom line is this kid will go to byu for a bigger bag and not a damn thing will be done.

He's right to a point.

If the kid has a signed contract agreeing to play for a school in exchange for a dollar value, an arbitrary NCAA rule wouldn't overrule that agreement.  The NCAA can't restrict commerce in either direction.  A court would likely agree that, absent any unfair influence to get the kid to sign or any misrepresentation or failure to live up to contract terms on the part of the paying entity, the player in question would either have to live up to his terms or forfeit compensation. 

[Zoso]

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[animal]

This NIL stuff isn't much different than bags of cash under an overpass and the guy takes the money and still ends up somewhere else because nobody could really call the kid out. Now the kid can agree to something, sign it, turn around and continue to negotiate and sign other deals without any kind of penalty much less a public admonishment for being a welsher. Our expectations as a society are so low it's not even funny.

I imagine the case-law for NIL beings that it's mostly an entirely new concept will take years to work itself out in the courts. I'm sure some of you legal minds can further speculate on that.

There is no boilerplate performance agreement between the A. Player B. Private Money C. School that ties all three together. Essentially the waters are very much intentionally muddy. I guess there's some oversight but not much. I assume for the private money this is a tax write off. The school gets the talent. The talent gets a pocket full of money and free bbq/catfish if you come to Arkansas

[HogOfWar]

They should just call the transfer portal the free agency portal. That's really what it is.

[BleedinRed]

nm

[rzrbkfan69]

PJ Haggerty says bye bye to Penny and Memphis. Becomes the top player in the portal. Gonna command at least 3 million NIL.

Probably wind up at Ole Miss.

[flash23]

Knox testing the NBA while remaining eligible.

[jdcatty]

Knox testing the NBA while remaining eligible.

I applaud the fact that he is keeping his options open.

[Gambler]

I applaud the fact that he is keeping his options open.

This is a smart move.

[Lurk]

Knox testing the NBA while remaining eligible.

Getting to go through the process will help when he does go pro. He needs a year being one of the go-tos to show what he can do. But if they tell him he's sure to be drafted,  Calipari would tell him to go.

[BASS]

Getting to go through the process will help when he does go pro. He needs a year being one of the go-tos to show what he can do. But if they tell him he's sure to be drafted,  Calipari would tell him to go.

He needs honest feedback from the pros about what to work on in his game

[jdcatty]

According to the Twitters, Baker-Mazara from Auburn is in the portal and has been contacted by Arkansas.  I hate that guy.

[BleedinRed]

Whatever gets us to the 'ship guys.  

[obijuana]

The schools have all of the power. Just stop offering NIL. Don't accept kids out of the portal. Simple as that.

That won't happen, but it's that simple.

[Sus-Scrofa]

The schools have all of the power. Just stop offering NIL. Don't accept kids out of the portal. Simple as that.

That won't happen, but it's that simple.

But it would take all the schools agreeing to that, which won't happen because of the Ole Mrs. of the world, and, if it did work, then there'd be allegations of collusion, etc. and more lawsuits.

I think it's probably all just FUBAR'd at this point.  It was a good run, but the system couldn't survive once all that ESPN/TV money started flowing.

[obijuana]

But it would take all the schools agreeing to that, which won't happen because of the Ole Mrs. of the world, and, if it did work, then there'd be allegations of collusion, etc. and more lawsuits.

I think it's probably all just FUBAR'd at this point.  It was a good run, but the system couldn't survive once all that ESPN/TV money started flowing.

Agreed. Fubar'd to the hilt. I'm in the small minority of people who thinks the kids are offered plenty for their services and don't deserve anything more than some type of small stipend or per diem when traveling. 

[BASS]

so, become opec.  set rules. then everyone violate them.  how is that different than the old ncaa model?

[animal]

The schools have all of the power. Just stop offering NIL. Don't accept kids out of the portal. Simple as that.

That won't happen, but it's that simple.

As long as we have a realistic chance to buy a natty then that's exactly what we're gonna try to do. Us and a half dozen other schools and then a bunch of schools that might pop up with great seasons outperforming their dollas.

[obijuana]

so, become opec.  set rules. then everyone violate them.  how is that different than the old ncaa model?

I guess I liked mama getting a double wide or the player driving a new sports car around campus more than dudes pimping their services every year to the highest bidder. Basically I think college athletes have always been compensated enough and if boosters want to give out $100 handshakes all over town then so be it. And the portal can straight up fuck itself. 

Change can be a bitch.