Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[jdcatty]

I've heard we paid KJ and Green around $750k. No idea if it's right but it's all I've got to go by.

I've "heard" such things, but really have no idea how accurate that is.

[Barton Fink]

Sure

All we need is about a dozen 5 star kids that aren't interested "worldly possessions" and care deeply about school spirit and teamwork. Then we'll need a coach that can pull it all together, someone that players want to run thru a wall for.

Seems reasonable

[The Whyte Boar]

Cal had a relationship with Tyson which helped tremendously. He also said he didn't want to have to work for NIL and made us commit to what he wanted. My guess this is where Tuson brought the Stephen's and Walton's together right after Cal was hired. We are gonna have to get that same commitment but on a larger level. Are these mega donors willing to carry the weight for all 3 sports with very little coming from the fans? Who knows...

Cal immediately started lobbying for more.  He had meetings with the whales immediately.  We're going to have to get a candidate that excites people and let him work it.  And raising NIL is now one of the top priorities of any successful coach.  It has to be until things change.  No coach can sit back and wait for people to give.  He is going to have to work at it.

[Barton Fink]

Btw, we sell out BWA @20k. We draw 70k for football. We bring in 11k every SEC weekend in baseball.

If 20k fans donated $100 a month ($1200 a year), that's $24M in NIL. Of course large donors will cut that number significantly but I'm a little surprised thst we don't have 20k fans that could match that.

Agsin, I'm not blaming the fans for not doing it. Just surprised we aren't closer to that number than we are.

[Barton Fink]

Cal immediately started lobbying for more.  He had meetings with the whales immediately.  We're going to have to get a candidate that excites people and let him work it.  And raising NIL is now one of the top priorities of any successful coach.  It has to be until things change.  No coach can sit back and wait for people to give.  He is going to have to work at it.

I would love to know how other coaches are doing it. Mainly OM.

[TC]

Maybe just start with this. Does anyone think we can compete in the SEC with our current NIL collective with the coach of your choice?

Yes. But your premise that current collective is equal to future, I do not agree with.

It's an exercise in futility now so it doesn't matter. Sam's here thru next season. Unless that big ole tub of Hog love wants to bring home one last Liberty Bowl trophy then retires a hero and hands the reigns off to Bobby..

[The Whyte Boar]

I would love to know how other coaches are doing it. Mainly OM.

It ain't no secret.  Kiffin directly lobbies EVERYONE for NIL money.  Unlike Arkansas, they realized from the start that it was a chance for them to be better than they ever had.

[TC]

Btw, we sell out BWA @20k. We draw 70k for football. We bring in 11k every SEC weekend in baseball.

If 20k fans donated $100 a month ($1200 a year), that's $24M in NIL. Of course large donors will cut that number significantly but I'm a little surprised thst we don't have 20k fans that could match that.

Agsin, I'm not blaming the fans for not doing it. Just surprised we aren't closer to that number than we are.

You're surprised that our football donations are down?

[DirkPiggler]

I would love to know how other coaches are doing it. Mainly OM.

There is nearly zero chance that there are 20,000 Ole Miss fans donating anywhere close to $100/month.  And in this only slightly less dirt poor state we can't do it either.  Hell, I can't afford to give that much without cannibalizing my foundation donation, which I would happily do if we could designate the RF money we give for ticket priority to NIL instead. 

I had this discussion in a meeting with a rep from our collective.  They believe that most of the OM donors are towards the lower end of the monthly amounts. The number $10/month was mentioned. 

Every little bit helps, and I will say that the Edge folks realize this now.   But we aren't moving the needle significantly through monthly giving, and neither is Ole Miss. 

[Natty_Ice]

I've heard we paid KJ and Green around $750k. No idea if it's right but it's all I've got to go by.

I've always heard $900k for Green and we just gave him another raise to stay on for next year.

[hit_that_line]

I've always heard $900k for Green and we just gave him another raise to stay on for next year.

What an ROI that is. College football is going to die.

[PHARMHOG]

What an ROI that is. College football is going to die.

This is where I am.

No way does this makes any financial sense unless money is meaningless.

Worse than the poor playing slots the casino. At least they have a shot at winning and walking away at anytime.

[FNG]

What an ROI that is. College football is going to die.

Do players enter into a contractual agreement now when they receive NIL money?

If so, is it standardized across the NCAA or is it unique to schools/players?

If standardized, what are the contractual obligations on the player's part?

[DirkPiggler]

This is where I am.

No way does this makes any financial sense unless money is meaningless.

Worse than the poor playing slots the casino. At least they have a shot at winning and walking away at anytime.

In theory I agree.

In reality the market will sort it out, eventually. 

[Barton Fink]

You're surprised that our football donations are down?

No, I'm just giving an example of what it would teke to obtain $24M without asking for large donations. This is with no large donations. I'm sure we have 20k fans that COULD give that much.

[Barton Fink]

What an ROI that is. College football is going to die.

That's part of they I posted the video below. Obviously investor's see something. I don't see how this could legally work with state funded universities.

https://x.com/JoePompliano/status/1865184030259376526?t=7kATXQ0_RlT2Nmo67ZgqKA&s=19

[DirkPiggler]

That's part of they I posted the video below. Obviously investor's see something. I don't see how this could legally work with state funded universities.

https://x.com/JoePompliano/status/1865184030259376526?t=7kATXQ0_RlT2Nmo67ZgqKA&s=19

Based on the way things have gone in the last 20-25 years here, I'd say we've handed ours over to a few wealthy boosters relatively free of charge.

[Usafhawg]

No, I'm just giving an example of what it would teke to obtain $24M without asking for large donations. This is with no large donations. I'm sure we have 20k fans that COULD give that much.

I think your numbers are going to be off. I'm guessing a lot of the basketball and baseball ticket holders also have football, if not all three.
Not everybody is a Rick B, but I'm thinking there are a lot that have at least 2 out of 3.

[aaron]

Wasn't NIL supposed to compensate athletes for the University making money off their name?  Why is this the fans obligation to pay them?

[DrMongoose]

Wasn't NIL supposed to compensate athletes for the University making money off their name?  Why is this the fans obligation to pay them?

Nil was to allow then to make money off their name image and likeness like the ea sports game, lessons, endorsements, etc.

The nli they sign for the scholarship allows the university to use their image in return for the scholarship, etc.

The rev share is part of the house settlement which will allow them a cut of the revenue they help the schools make.

The schools want fans to foot the bill because they don't want to pay for it and start being financially responsible and actually run like a business. The days of Monopoly money are likely over but will head coach amd AD and staff salary start to decline?

South Carolina's new AD is starting at $1.9 million while Grundy had to take a pay cut at Oklahoma state but he is still getting paid handsomely.

The amount of money waste in college athletics rivals congress.