Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[Sus-Scrofa]

So are any woopiggers actually donating?  I figure we have a higher level of fan support here, and I assume a higher than average income level (with one bazillionaire) compared to the state average.

If they can't even get a few donors here, they're never getting 100 a month from 20k fans.

[DirkPiggler]

So are any woopiggers actually donating?  I figure we have a higher level of fan support here, and I assume a higher than average income level (with one bazillionaire) compared to the state average.

If they can't even get a few donors here, they're never getting 100 a month from 20k fans.

I give a small amount, but it's all I can justify with the amount I spend in tickets and RF donations. 

I did meet with one of the Edge reps regarding possibly doing something through our business.  The minimum business package was $5,000 per year, and didn't really make sense from a profitability perspective.  I can't justify spending it simply as a fan with no ROI for my company.  It's encouraging that they do have someone dedicated to business outreach, and he seems to know what he's doing.  We are just so far behind after Yurachek spent 2-3 years campaigning to get NIL overturned or regulated while our rivals were getting their infrastructure and donors in place.  And to be fair, with football they have a shit product to sell right now. 

[The Whyte Boar]

I give a small amount, but it's all I can justify with the amount I spend in tickets and RF donations. 

I did meet with one of the Edge reps regarding possibly doing something through our business.  The minimum business package was $5,000 per year, and didn't really make sense from a profitability perspective.  I can't justify spending it simply as a fan with no ROI for my company.  It's encouraging that they do have someone dedicated to business outreach, and he seems to know what he's doing.  We are just so far behind after Yurachek spent 2-3 years campaigning to get NIL overturned or regulated while our rivals were getting their infrastructure and donors in place.  And to be fair, with football they have a shit product to sell right now. 

If instead of pissing and moaning about NIL and trying to get it overturned, we had hit the ground running and capitalized on the excitement after Sam's one good season, we might be in a different spot now.  But we didn't and as you say, the product is bad now.

[aaron]

I don't give and won't be giving. However, if I did and my money went to pay towards hundreds of thousands of dollars to the likes of KJ Jefferson, Green, ect, I would likely be pissed.

[jdcatty]

So are any woopiggers actually donating?  I figure we have a higher level of fan support here, and I assume a higher than average income level (with one bazillionaire) compared to the state average.

If they can't even get a few donors here, they're never getting 100 a month from 20k fans.

As I have said, I give monthly to the NIL.  Just $100, but it's something.

[DirkPiggler]

I don't give and won't be giving. However, if I did and my money went to pay towards hundreds of thousands of dollars to the likes of KJ Jefferson, Green, ect, I would likely be pissed.

One of the questions I had was, why should I give through the collective versus outright sponsoring a player and cutting out the middleman?  The response was that giving to the collective helps insulate you from the possibility of that player either tanking on the field or getting into trouble off of it, potentially causing damage to your brand by association.  I imagine I wasn't the first prospect to ask that question, and while I didn't bring up specific players (Jefferson) I'm sure others did.

[piglosopher]

We are just so far behind after Yurachek spent 2-3 years campaigning to get NIL overturned or regulated while our rivals were getting their infrastructure and donors in place.  And to be fair, with football they have a shit product to sell right now. 

What irks me is that HY dropped the ball on NIL and is blaming the fans for it. Now that the product is shit, it's a larger hill to get over

[Show-Me Hog]

What irks me is that HY dropped the ball on NIL and is blaming the fans for it. Now that the product is shit, it's a larger hill to get over

He should have anticipated that NIL was going to become a complete fraud, and end up in just direct payments to players almost right away? At the beginning, only A&M was going that route, and they were being made fun of for it.

[The Whyte Boar]

He should have anticipated that NIL was going to become a complete fraud, and end up in just direct payments to players almost right away? At the beginning, only A&M was going that route, and they were being made fun of for it.

Yes, because it was entirely predictable.  That's why the NCAA was so against payments from any source.  One the door was cracked, that was it.

This isn't new ground.  The NCAA developed because this exact same stuff was happening in the 1920s during the first wave of popularity for college football. 

[Lurk]

Until they fix the transfer rule, it's going to get worse until it spirals into the ground. Don't care at this point.

[DirkPiggler]

He should have anticipated that NIL was going to become a complete fraud, and end up in just direct payments to players almost right away? At the beginning, only A&M was going that route, and they were being made fun of for it.

No.  Instead of actively trying to fight NIL from being implemented after the court decision was already made, he should have accepted it and worked as best he could within the system.  Did you forget that our AD was the leader of some supposed coalition of schools trying to do away with or neuter NIL? 

Even the people at Edge acknowledge that we are way behind our peers.  It's not just the amount of money coming in either.

[DirkPiggler]

Until they fix the transfer rule, it's going to get worse until it spirals into the ground. Don't care at this point.

This is the main thing.  Letting the kids get paid isn't the problem.

The issue is that we have free agency for the players with no contract protection for the schools.  Eliminating the free transfer rule, or even just limiting it to one transfer without penalty, would go a long way towards correcting the market and curtailing the annual auction process.

[jdcatty]

Both the Metcalf boys are gone.

[DirkPiggler]

Both the Metcalf boys are gone.

Less than 24 hours after their mother posted a receipt for a donation to ArkansasEdge.

[Feral]

Until they fix the transfer rule, it's going to get worse until it spirals into the ground. Don't care at this point.

Yep.

NIL is a huge problem, but it's not THE problem. The unlimited transfer rule is what has exacerbated the entire pay for play issue.

The only way to slightly combat it is to re-institute the old transfer rule (or a modified version of it). That way you don't have players constantly jumping for a short term bag.

You want to transfer? Great, you're sitting a year. You already redshirted? Too bad, you're still juicing a year of eligibility. 

[Feral]

Less than 24 hours after their mother posted a receipt for a donation to ArkansasEdge.

Told yall.

The discord rumors are batting 1.000 so far.

[buff2.0]

Both the Metcalf boys are gone.

Please tell me this one is a cruel joke.

Oh crap, it's not.

https://x.com/max_olson/status/1866163959360794917

[The Whyte Boar]

We're a nice little feeder program for Ole Miss.  If they show potential here, Lane will get them up for a nice payday.

[RPL]

Both the Metcalf boys are gone.

And the other Hasz.  And some other kid. 

[BleedinRed]

I think it is pretty clear that there is an issue beyond NIL.  We are not losing this many players due to money issues.  Some, sure. But not 17 players.  Particularly starters who are not stars.