The NEXT Coach

[Feral]

Lashlee I think will probably coach his way out of getting the opportunity. He's 2-2 right now in what has been a let down season thus far.

I'm hoping the Gus faction just pounds sand.

If we got young these names below will likely be the ones considered.
No particular order.

Sumrall, Kinne, Morris, Golesh,

I think Lashlee will be a redux of Gus in 2017. We'll go all out for him, he'll string the Springdale boosters along, and we'll get left holding our dicks. He'll either coach himself out of the opportunity and/or simply say no because he views it as a career killer (which it kind of has been since Petrino).

If BMFP doesn't get the job, we need to hire from the cohort of young guys. Sumrall, Golesh, Kinne, and Morris.

Sumrall would be my first choice. Knows the SEC and has won at a high clip, but I figure he's probably holding out for the UK job.

I like Kinne and Morris but they're damn young and still very green.

[Borenutz]

I never felt Mullen got a fair shake at Florida. Not sure why they moved so fast there. Really only had one bad season.

[Loma]

I never felt Mullen got a fair shake at Florida. Not sure why they moved so fast there. Really only had one bad season.

Pissed off the wrong people regarding recruiting.

[vegashog]

Pissed off the wrong people regarding recruiting.

that was because his recruiting had turned to shit. a bunch of his last two classes failed to even get to campus because they didn't qualify.

and he refused to fire grantham until it was too late. the defense his last season gave up the most points per game in over a century.

edit: his 2020 defense did that. in his last season they gave up 52 to samford.

[Borenutz]

that was because his recruiting had turned to shit. a bunch of his last two classes failed to even get to campus because they didn't qualify.

and he refused to fire grantham until it was too late. the defense his last season gave up the most points per game in over a century.

edit: his 2020 defense did that. in his last season they gave up 52 to samford.

Damn. I'll be honest, I hadn't heard much of this Grantham guy before the last few days, but sounds like he'll get yo ass fired real quick. Bobby probably needs to hard pass on that guy if he's an option.

[TC]

I think we can all agree that it's Petrinos job to lose now. If he can keep doing what they're doing on offense (save the ND game), and he can get the defense to show some semblance of fight in them, then he'll get a new contract in December.

Does that translate into a minimum # of wins req'd for them to offer him the gig? I don't know. HY said it doesn't, but I think we would all also agree if we go O'fer for the rest of the schedule they probably don't give him the job. Whereas, if he sneaks up and wins a couple it's likely a done deal if he wants it.

[Guardrail]

I think we can all agree that it's Petrinos job to lose now. If he can keep doing what they're doing on offense (save the ND game), and he can get the defense to show some semblance of fight in them, then he'll get a new contract in December.

Does that translate into a minimum # of wins req'd for them to offer him the gig? I don't know. HY said it doesn't, but I think we would all also agree if we go O'fer for the rest of the schedule they probably don't give him the job. Whereas, if he sneaks up and wins a couple it's likely a done deal if he wants it.

The players may not like him because he's a big fat meanie and makes them actually hustle and they lay down to make sure he doesn't succeed, but they can't get much layer downer.
So if he can even get them to show a spark of motivation, that's better than they've shown yet this season.

[CardHog]

I think Lashlee will be a redux of Gus in 2017. We'll go all out for him, he'll string the Springdale boosters along, and we'll get left holding our dicks. He'll either coach himself out of the opportunity and/or simply say no because he views it as a career killer (which it kind of has been since Petrino).

The whole career killer angle is a real head scratcher.  Did it kill Nutts career? Petrino? Bielema?  Morris killed his own career for sucking ass.   

[Barton Fink]

Looking outside, his time around it feels like there are more guys I don't want than who I do want. Previous searches you had guys like Kiffen. Norvell, Leach, etc. that stood out. Not sure that guy exists with this search.

I love BP but I even have reservations with him being HC.

[Texzilla]

You know damn well we'll move on from Petrino and hire a coach who runs the service academy Flexbone.

The wishbone run Texas/OU style would be devastating to today's pussified coverage defensive backs.  They don't see WRs that block, hammering FBs, or having to make decisions.  It was a near perfection offense and was killed as much by fan indifference as anything.

[Feral]

The whole career killer angle is a real head scratcher.  Did it kill Nutts career? Petrino? Bielema?  Morris killed his own career for sucking ass. 

Rightly or wrongly, Bielema is the one whose tenure makes our job look much worse than it is.

He won a lot at Wisconsin. Came here and struggled badly, got his shit pushed in, and ultimately got fired. Now he's winning at Illinois.

To be fair, I think Pittman may have quieted the shit talk about our program and the ability to win here. He won some big games (Texas in '21, Cincinnati in '22, Ole Miss in '22, Tennessee last year, etc). I think some coaches may say "hell, if THAT guy can win at a decent clip, imagine what I can do." 

[Pig Benis]

Looking outside, his time around it feels like there are more guys I don't want than who I do want. Previous searches you had guys like Kiffen. Norvell, Leach, etc. that stood out. Not sure that guy exists with this search.

I love BP but I even have reservations with him being HC.

Agreed, and it feels like this is already being set up as "Lashlee or bust". I don't think he's a bad coach but not fully sold on him either. Maybe it's Chad/SMU PTSD. It will be interesting to see what happens if he goes 7-5 this year. Regardless, if he's the only one who can generate NIL donations from the big boys then he's the guy. If he does get the job it will be impossible to fire him if it goes south. Hootie 2.0.

On paper, Mullen is the best realistic option and it's not particularly close. Successful head coach at 2 different SEC schools, one of which is a bottom feeder like us. I doubt he moves the NIL needle much though.

[Feral]

I don't think he's a bad coach but not fully sold on him either. Maybe it's Chad/SMU PTSD.

Not directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.

[DirkPiggler]

Not directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.

One of them has won big at SMU.  The other only got to a bowl once, and wouldn't have then if not for a blown call at the end of the Tulane game. 

[Pig Benis]

Not directed at you, but it's asinine to draw any parallel between Morris and Lashlee. And I'm not even a big Lashlee guy. They're not even remotely comparable beyond both having coached at SMU, which is completely different job than it was just 7-8 years ago.

I understand that Lashlee isn't an inbred Aggy retard. He might even move his family to NWA. He's obviously a much better coach(low hurdle) but I do worry about the transition from SMU to the SEC. To his credit, he won 11 games but he did it with a bankrolled roster in a shitty conference and is currently 2-2.

[jdcatty]

The wishbone run Texas/OU style would be devastating to today's pussified coverage defensive backs.  They don't see WRs that block, hammering FBs, or having to make decisions.  It was a near perfection offense and was killed as much by fan indifference as anything.

What you say might be true-- if, and this is a huge if-- you could find 2 or 3 guys who would actually block to play fullback.

[animal]

If we truly take a "long view approach" and not get vapor locked on one candidate. 

There could be other names emerge out of this but this feels like the list right now is going to legit be Lashlee, Sumrall, Kinne, and maybe Eric Morris. Mullen might get a look if he ends up impressing at UNLV. 

There's really no reason to not have a "win now" attitude with college athletics so a program builder now days is going to be someone that is highly organized, has a system in place that can be quickly adopted, can really get guys to "buy-in", and knows how to identify players that can help win ball games. 

Easier said than done and I'm not sure Petrino's complex shit really jives with modern college football. You have to think about every pre-season spent on "install" and you don't have 2 to 4 years with the same group of guys. That's just not happening now. So whatever you run needs to be easily soaked in. 

[BleedinRed]

One of them has won big at SMU.  The other only got to a bowl once, and wouldn't have then if not for a blown call at the end of the Tulane game. 

Won big?  What big games has SMU won that proves Lashlee isn't the next Chad Morris?  I get he has won a bunch of games though.  Seems he has lost the biggest games each year.

2025 Wins: Missouri State, Eash Texas A&M
2025 Losses: TCU, Baylor
Hasn't played anyone ranked so far

2024 Wins: California, Virginia, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Duke, Stanford, Louisville, Florida State, TCU, Houston Christian, Nevada
2024 losses: Penn State, Clemson, BYU
2-2 against ranked opponents this year

2023 Wins: Louisiana Tech, Prarie View A&M, Charlotte, East Carolina, Temple, Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, Memphis, Navy, Tulane
2023 losses: Oklahoma, TCU, Boston College
1-1 vs ranked opponents this year

2022 Wins: North Texas, Lamar, Navy, Tulsa, Houston, South Florida, Memphis
2022 Losses: Maryland, TCU, UCF, Cincinatti, Tulane, BYU
0-2 against ranked opponents this year

[passed]

If we truly take a "long view approach" and not get vapor locked on one candidate.

There could be other names emerge out of this but this feels like the list right now is going to legit be Lashlee, Sumrall, Kinne, and maybe Eric Morris. Mullen might get a look if he ends up impressing at UNLV.

There's really no reason to not have a "win now" attitude with college athletics so a program builder now days is going to be someone that is highly organized, has a system in place that can be quickly adopted, can really get guys to "buy-in", and knows how to identify players that can help win ball games.

Easier said than done and I'm not sure Petrino's complex shit really jives with modern college football. You have to think about every pre-season spent on "install" and you don't have 2 to 4 years with the same group of guys. That's just not happening now. So whatever you run needs to be easily soaked in.

I can't help but wonder if the predictability of his offense is due to him trying to dumb some of it down for quick install.  You're right though, and that's a serious concern with Petrino moving forward as permanent HC.  He won't have years to get the kids schooled up.  The "just wait til next year" stuff is out the window.  We could very well be staring at a team that can't get it done because they don't understand the offense quick enough.

[passed]

Won big?  What big games has SMU won that proves Lashlee isn't the next Chad Morris?  I get he has won a bunch of games though.  Seems he has lost the biggest games each year.

2025 Wins: Missouri State, Eash Texas A&M
2025 Losses: TCU, Baylor
Hasn't played anyone ranked so far

2024 Wins: California, Virginia, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Duke, Stanford, Louisville, Florida State, TCU, Houston Christian, Nevada
2024 losses: Penn State, Clemson, BYU
2-2 against ranked opponents this year

2023 Wins: Louisiana Tech, Prarie View A&M, Charlotte, East Carolina, Temple, Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, Memphis, Navy, Tulane
2023 losses: Oklahoma, TCU, Boston College
1-1 vs ranked opponents this year

2022 Wins: North Texas, Lamar, Navy, Tulsa, Houston, South Florida, Memphis
2022 Losses: Maryland, TCU, UCF, Cincinatti, Tulane, BYU
0-2 against ranked opponents this year

Tongue in cheek, but the fact he won games and against ranked opponents seems to qualify.