The NEXT Coach

Started by PHARMHOG, Sep 28, 2025, 01:21 PM

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Borenutz

Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMYurachek is not good at his job.  It's very obvious to me.

We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only.  People who give a shit.

I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.

You ain't wrong.

egregious

Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: HTL on Nov 27, 2025, 10:01 PMThey hung 70 on Chad and we still hired him.
I will die if we hire another Temu Chad
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TC

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 27, 2025, 11:15 PMI will die if we hire another Temu Chad

Well at least Golesh won 22 (22-15) games in 3 years versus Chuds 14 (14-23) in the same time frame in the AAC. That's 8 more wins!

Oh wait, Golesh probably beats powerhouse Rice Saturday to move him up to 23 wins. Tune in Sunday evening when we shock the football world and steal him away from South Florida!

The Cowboy Tiger

Quote from: egregious on Nov 27, 2025, 10:48 PMYes

Could it be any worse?

The first law of the universe is that things can always get worse.
I'm just a dark guy from a den of iniquity.

Don't go away mad.  Just go away.

Guardrail

Quote from: egregious on Nov 27, 2025, 10:48 PMYes

Could it be any worse?
Universe : "Hold my beer"
The same people demanding everyone embrace your beliefs, have zero tolerance and condemn another for embracing theirs.  Oh, the irony.

passed

I really cannot grasp the logic our PTB are using.  Which tells me it is, in fact, irrationality that is reining supreme up there.

It makes sense to check the market and understand all of your options.  You then perform a risk analysis for each option, a cost / benefit analysis, and then weigh those outcomes across your 5 and 10 year plans and determine the feasibility of reaching your long term goal with each of those options.  If any check out, then that is your answer.  If the CBA shows high viability for one of the options, but it doesn't align with the current plan, you can then look into modifying your strategy so that that option could work.

That all said, we seem to be ignoring risks and costs and strategy entirely, and just going after a new hire... to have a new hire.  Which, given the current market, means very high costs, and both high risk of NOT getting the best option (due to competition), over paying for any option, and of course the high risk of the option not working out.  From a business perspective and a likelihood of success perspective... this is about as rational as woman prattle.

Let's say the choice is really down to Golesh.  What are the pros?  New coach, up and comer, could be lightning in a bottle.  What are the risks?  His offense likely won't work in the SEC, he has no P5 HC experience (let alone SEC or Big 10), no idea what kind of staff he can put together, his current defense is about as bad as ours - and that is in the AAC, I doubt this hire gets the money people excited enough to dump in NIL.

IF we are going the route of a new coach, that isn't a big get like Cignetti or Franklin (though I don't like the Franklin hire due to his record vs ranked), then I think our best bet is to get a defensive minded coach like Wommack and do our damnedest to retain Bobby as OC and associate HC or some such.  I mean, if we're going to take the risks and pay out, we may as well go with a route that is more likely to be successful.

animal

I don't think anyone up their truly believes or is committed enough to really put together long term sustained winning for the football program so it becomes a question of marketability. They aren't concerning themselves with winning they are concerning themselves with retaining and attracting customers. So you plug in a new face and hope for the best and give him subpar support, admit to it upon his firing in 5 years, wash rinse and repeat. 

The only way any of that changes is with real commitment from the top on down. Ole Miss is the program we wish we could be but aren't because its easier to play aah shucks then it is to put together a list of excellence pissers who probably aren't eating catfish off diddy's plate. 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Texzilla

Quote from: passed on Nov 28, 2025, 06:15 AMI really cannot grasp the logic our PTB are using.  Which tells me it is, in fact, irrationality that is reining supreme up there.

It makes sense to check the market and understand all of your options.  You then perform a risk analysis for each option, a cost / benefit analysis, and then weigh those outcomes across your 5 and 10 year plans and determine the feasibility of reaching your long term goal with each of those options.  If any check out, then that is your answer.  If the CBA shows high viability for one of the options, but it doesn't align with the current plan, you can then look into modifying your strategy so that that option could work.

That all said, we seem to be ignoring risks and costs and strategy entirely, and just going after a new hire... to have a new hire.  Which, given the current market, means very high costs, and both high risk of NOT getting the best option (due to competition), over paying for any option, and of course the high risk of the option not working out.  From a business perspective and a likelihood of success perspective... this is about as rational as woman prattle.

Let's say the choice is really down to Golesh.  What are the pros?  New coach, up and comer, could be lightning in a bottle.  What are the risks?  His offense likely won't work in the SEC, he has no P5 HC experience (let alone SEC or Big 10), no idea what kind of staff he can put together, his current defense is about as bad as ours - and that is in the AAC, I doubt this hire gets the money people excited enough to dump in NIL.

IF we are going the route of a new coach, that isn't a big get like Cignetti or Franklin (though I don't like the Franklin hire due to his record vs ranked), then I think our best bet is to get a defensive minded coach like Wommack and do our damnedest to retain Bobby as OC and associate HC or some such.  I mean, if we're going to take the risks and pay out, we may as well go with a route that is more likely to be successful.

What is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess?  Coaching over scheme every time.  He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing.  Yardage doesn't win games.  Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games.  Bobby had sucked at that.  With his players.  He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions.  Terrible game awareness.  A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week.  I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is.   Shit.  And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.

All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk.  Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him. 


HTL

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2025, 07:38 AMWhat is this infatuation with Bobby's offensive prowess?  Coaching over scheme every time.  He has been outcoached in every game he's led and many prior to Sam's firing.  Yardage doesn't win games.  Discipline, ball security, penalty free ball win games.  Bobby had sucked at that.  With his players.  He has been outcoached every game. Made dumb decisions.  Terrible game awareness.  A few adjustments by opponents at halftime and he has been shutdown in the the second half every week.  I'm tired of that shit. That's what it is.   Shit.  And you're eating it out of a dog bowl.

All this co coach or Bobby for OC talk.  Stupid. What instance has that kind of. Hit ever worked in biz or sports or anything? Any coach who would accept that shitty situation is so stupid we dont want him. 


Bobby is absolutely washed at this point. People here still think he may be a candidate for HC. Wtf.

animal

I'm a big Bobby fan and wanted to see it work out for him. The plain truth of the matter is the guy is showing his age and if we're really being honest he aint been shit since just after Lamar Jackson left town. Yes it's nice seeing some of those hallmark plays work but it takes more than a few witty play calls to win games. It's also true that the roster makeup of this team is not entirely on his head and that this season was always going to be unfair to him. He was always going to be the interim head coach it was just a matter of time before that happened. Bottom line is we would have won games if the defense wasn't legendarily awful but the same could have been said for Sam as well. Bobby kept it all in the moral victory category but we just didn't have the difference makers when it mattered and that goes for the coaching staff as well.

My biggest bitch about Bobby as I've mentioned various times is his unwillingness to play another QB. I understood it up to a point but at some level you have to hold someone accountable and the QB would have been a great place to start. We should have seen a lot more of KJ Jackson and treated this season like a "development" year after it was clear we weren't going to a bowl game. Now we've created two things...1. if KJ plays a lot or all snaps against Missouri it gives us a good snap shot but not a long term snap shot. Maybe just enough to get his dollas up but not enough for Arkansas to drop it's panties for him under the new head coach. This may have been by design...2. I won't be shocked if BP is at Auburn or somewhere else next season and KJ Jackson is supposedly his new hotness qb and this time he's got a good defense.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

SwahiliSteve

Keeping Sam on this year and bringing in Bobby tells you everything you need to know about this program and the people running it. I don't have any expectations at all going forward. I don't think HY is serious about our program or he would have fired Sam Pittman after last season before that day fuck sat at the press conference at the beginning of this season and lied
To our faces about what a fucking great team we have and how awesome we would be.
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

buff2.0

Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2025, 08:10 AMMy biggest bitch about Bobby as I've mentioned various times is his unwillingness to play another QB. I understood it up to a point but at some level you have to hold someone accountable and the QB would have been a great place to start. We should have seen a lot more of KJ Jackson and treated this season like a "development" year after it was clear we weren't going to a bowl game.

If Bobby had known the job was his he might have said fuck and done just that to prepare for next season.  I've lost track of how many times Green has looked straight at open receivers downfield just to pull it and toss to the flat.  I've also lost track of how many times he's turned shitty protection into 20 yard gains.

It amuses me seeing posts about the logic of the PTB.  Especially when it comes to football, when is the last time they did anything logical... December 10, 2007?
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

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animal

Jessie Minter (Michigan DC) I think has some loose ties to the state...think he was born in LR but didn't live in the state much past early childhood.

So that makes him highly qualified
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

piglosopher

Quote from: wmr on Nov 27, 2025, 10:09 PMYurachek is not good at his job.  It's very obvious to me.

We need a BOT full of Arkansas alumns only.  People who give a shit.

I hate to admit it but we have drifted along like nobody is in charge since JFB left.


I have no idea why he is still here

Passed on kiffen and drink. Yes they would have fleeced us but they're successful and success solves all problems.

Hired Sam. Extended Sam. Fired Sam too late.

Football game day experience sucks and compares poorly to our competitors.

Football NIL was and is a disaster

Gaffes on the state of the football program that would make no coach want to come here.

Now the golesh leak makes us look more clownshoes.


SwahiliSteve

Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 28, 2025, 08:30 AMI have no idea why he is still here

Passed on kiffen and drink. Yes they would have fleeced us but they're successful and success solves all problems.

Hired Sam. Extended Sam. Fired Sam too late.

Football game day experience sucks and compares poorly to our competitors.

Football NIL was and is a disaster

Gaffes on the state of the football program that would make no coach want to come here.

Now the golesh leak makes us look more clownshoes.


is he even around and doing his job considering he's occupied with the college playoff crap? He can eat a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned.
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

egregious

Well at least LSU is a more publicized clown program for now anyway.
 C:-)
It sure would be nice to snag someone so we could completely enjoy them.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

SwahiliSteve

Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

buff2.0

Wommack might turn out to be a great hire.  Kirby wasn't any more than a DC when he took the UGA job and now look at him. Counter-argument... Will Muschamp was just a DC when he took the Florida job.  Point is no one is going to be excited about him until he starts winning games.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Ray Zorback

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