2027 Razorback Baseball

Started by BleedinRed, Jun 05, 2026, 09:58 AM

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BleedinRed

The real issue is the ABS system isn't really solving a problem.  Why?  Because there really isn't a problem.  I've never subscribed to the phylosophy of "If we save but just one kid, then the solution was totaly worth it!".

I like a little caous that the human element brings into the system.  Does it piss me off when it goes against me?  Sure.  Do I take great joy when it goes against my enemy?  Absolutly. 

The truth is, most calls that are being overturned by the ABS system are balls and strikes where the pitch literlaly missed the "zone" by less than a cunts hair.   The game, particularly the professional game, will turn into an even more bland product as everything will eventually be so scripted and the fire and passion that variability brings will be lost. 

Soapbox rant over.  I'll adapt.  It will be fine.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jul 16, 2026, 09:10 AMThe real issue is the ABS system isn't really solving a problem.  Why?  Because there really isn't a problem.  I've never subscribed to the phylosophy of "If we save but just one kid, then the solution was totaly worth it!".

I like a little caous that the human element brings into the system.  Does it piss me off when it goes against me?  Sure.  Do I take great joy when it goes against my enemy?  Absolutly. 

The truth is, most calls that are being overturned by the ABS system are balls and strikes where the pitch literlaly missed the "zone" by less than a cunts hair.   The game, particularly the professional game, will turn into an even more bland product as everything will eventually be so scripted and the fire and passion that variability brings will be lost. 

Soapbox rant over.  I'll adapt.  It will be fine.

Those are fair points as a fan of the game itself., although I still don't agree.  But I don't see how any Arkansas fan could ever turn away anything that would remove an opportunity for officiating to fuck us over.  Contrary to what logic and everyone not affiliated with Arkansas says, the calls DO NOT even out for us...numerically or situationally.  Sure we might get a pitch go our way in the 5th inning of a 10-2 blowout, but that doesn't counteract the one that goes against us with the bases loaded and two outs down two runs in the bottom of the 8th or the one that walks in the tying run with two outs in the 9th. 

If we got enough consecutive bad calls in our favor to offset the ones that have gone against us just in my lifetime, our kids would have grandkids by the time the totals were balanced.
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BleedinRed

That is fair.  It is going the way it is going, regardless of my feelings.  I'll adapt just like I have to the negative effects of college NIL.  20-30 years from now we won't even remember what it was like before A.I. took over sports.  If we even make it that far as a species.  ;D

Barton Fink

Will the algorithms be generated from the Birmingham data center?

Cornhogio

Part of my enthusiasm for ABS is the umps that have told players, managers, etc., "well that's my strike zone".  Motherfucker, baseball has a strike zone.  You are supposed to be a keeper of the rules.  Wanton hubris. 
Never squat with your spurs on!

Son of Spam

I used to have a picture of a game we played against Ole Piss a few years ago. It showed a pitch where the catcher was nearly all the way over in the other batter's box, and was called a strike by the ump. Of course it was against us, so maybe that was his strike zone. At least this new thing will keep shit like that from happening.
Well, shit...

Hogworth Ballington III

The main thing I want to get rid of (besides the fallibility) is the bias. Humans are prone to it and despite it being an umps job to be completely objective, it's been shown time and time again that many call the game differently for different teams or players.

Usafhawg

Quote from: Ray Zorback on Jul 16, 2026, 08:31 AMThis.

...and I've seen games changed on correcting a bad call. For example, instead of an inning ending strikeout on a bad call, the inning gets extended when the call gets reversed. I'm a big fan of new system. It doesn't slow the game down while correcting human errors.

As a Braves fan, I'm glad they didn't have it when Glavine pitched.

You misspelled Maddux. He's an average pitcher with a correct strike zone.

Pig Benis

Quote from: Cornhogio on Jul 16, 2026, 11:37 AMPart of my enthusiasm for ABS is the umps that have told players, managers, etc., "well that's my strike zone".  Motherfucker, baseball has a strike zone.  You are supposed to be a keeper of the rules.  Wanton hubris. 

100%. You're not the focus of the game, assholes. I love ABS and wish it was used even more. Accuracy over "tradition". 
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

DrMongoose

Speaking of strike zones, this a good and interesting follow...



https://x.com/umpscorecards?s=11&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Hogworth Ballington III

I wish they had a set max number of calls overturned before the ump is disallowed to call balls and strikes for the rest of the game. Exceed the max for a season and you're fired.

Hognrock

I'm all for ABS and honestly would be fine if all pitches were shown and ball/strike was called off of that.  I'm a purist and like the human element but think it would give a more accurate and perhaps quicker game with more accuracy.  Most aren't going to challenge an incorrect ball/strike on a 1-0 count in the 1st inning. 

On another (and unrelated) note, my oldest is playing in Lake Point, GA at the 17U National Champ tourney.  They are currently playing Nick Markakis' 17U team.  About 180 teams from literally all over the country.  No telling how many future college kids are down there.  I'm stuck at home for work and to watch after our dogs. 

Most of our team is going to the Braves/Rangers game tomorrow night.  Dirk would be proud that my wife bought our 2 boys Braves shirts (I'm a Cards fan and chastised her). 

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Usafhawg on Jul 16, 2026, 05:28 PMYou misspelled Maddux. He's an average pitcher with a correct strike zone.

Of course I disagree, but if you're right it would have been better if there had been a system in place to better reward or punish his ability or lack of same. 
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Usafhawg

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jul 16, 2026, 06:20 PMOf course I disagree, but if you're right it would have been better if there had been a system in place to better reward or punish his ability or lack of same. 

I made that statement just to get your reaction. Lol
I'm a Maddux lover

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Hognrock on Jul 16, 2026, 05:49 PMI'm all for ABS and honestly would be fine if all pitches were shown and ball/strike was called off of that.  I'm a purist and like the human element but think it would give a more accurate and perhaps quicker game with more accuracy.  Most aren't going to challenge an incorrect ball/strike on a 1-0 count in the 1st inning. 

On another (and unrelated) note, my oldest is playing in Lake Point, GA at the 17U National Champ tourney.  They are currently playing Nick Markakis' 17U team.  About 180 teams from literally all over the country.  No telling how many future college kids are down there.  I'm stuck at home for work and to watch after our dogs. 

Most of our team is going to the Braves/Rangers game tomorrow night.  Dirk would be proud that my wife bought our 2 boys Braves shirts (I'm a Cards fan and chastised her).

She should go outside the Doubletree in the Battery a few hours before game time.  The Jersey lady sets up there with outstanding Chinese knockoffs.  I got two city connects for my nephews and one navy road jersey for my son for $200 (they're $200 each or more in the team shop).
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: Usafhawg on Jul 16, 2026, 06:22 PMI made that statement just to get your reaction. Lol
I'm a Maddux lover

 >:D

I'm serious though.   I don't want to see players rewarded because they can manipulate an ump.   
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Hizog

Considering the approach that most of our hitters have under Thompson, I fully expect to run out of challenges in the first inning on middle middle fastballs.

rzrbkfan69

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jul 16, 2026, 06:22 PMShe should go outside the Doubletree in the Battery a few hours before game time.  The Jersey lady sets up there with outstanding Chinese knockoffs.  I got two city connects for my nephews and one navy road jersey for my son for $200 (they're $200 each or more in the team shop).

Damn, I wish I knew that last month when I took my boys to see the Braves play.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: rzrbkfan69 on Jul 16, 2026, 08:32 PMDamn, I wish I knew that last month when I took my boys to see the Braves play.

Which series?   We were there for Friday and Sunday of the Brewers series. 

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Boarat

The Maddux two seamer that started at the lefties hip and ended up over the heart of the plate is the best pitch in the history of baseball.