John White

Started by Hogslobber, Apr 12, 2023, 10:48 AM

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Hogslobber

Make a list of his decisions that were " questionable"


DirkPiggler

1. The football search committee in December 1997, which led us to hire Nutt instead of Tommy Tuberville.

2. Not retaining Gary Blair (not 100% on him), but insisting on a woman as Blair's replacement.

3. Hiring Jeff Long to replace Broyles.

4.  Insisting on hiring a Black coach to replace Nolan Richardson, when some guy named Self was ready to accept the job.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

SwahiliSteve

Writes a book in leadership but is a fucking shitty leader.
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

piglosopher

What did he do right? Might end for a shorter thread.

egregious

Tracking the anals of UA administrators, I had a cousin named John White and my grandmother was Alan Sugg's stepmom.  She didn't become his stepmom until she was about 60, so I doubt it was like in the movies.

random guy named John White, not that one, but the real Alan Sugg
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Cerdo

John White was a cowardly piece of shit that enabled the institutional racism that existed at the upper levels of the Athletic Department.  He teamed up with Broyles to not only push Richardson in to a corner (we were still a regularly ranked team with a recruiting comeback happening) but then also helped feed the media stories that slanted to make Richardson look bad with boosters and everyday Arkansans, which of course our dumb fanbase, including on the web, just lapped up like pussies. 

Fuck that guy.

BASS

Dirk and Cerdo summed it up nicely
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

SwahiliSteve

John White is a cunt.
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Son of Spam

His name is racist. "White" and he is named after a famed meth cooker.
Well, shit...

jdcatty

Quote from: Cerdo on Apr 12, 2023, 12:50 PMJohn White was a cowardly piece of shit that enabled the institutional racism that existed at the upper levels of the Athletic Department.  He teamed up with Broyles to not only push Richardson in to a corner (we were still a regularly ranked team with a recruiting comeback happening) but then also helped feed the media stories that slanted to make Richardson look bad with boosters and everyday Arkansans, which of course our dumb fanbase, including on the web, just lapped up like pussies. 

Fuck that guy.

That all may be true, and I am no John White fan, but Nolan hurt himself in so many ways I don't think you can lay his departure on White.  Maybe the hiring of Heath, sure.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 12, 2023, 06:01 PMThat all may be true, and I am no John White fan, but Nolan hurt himself in so many ways I don't think you can lay his departure on White.  Maybe the hiring of Heath, sure.
maybe not Nolan but it was at that point white meddled in athletics which he knew nothing about. Stan Heath hire was all him. Dana Altman running...all John white. He's the center figure in a hell of a lot of bad decisions for our athletics which he should have just left to the people that know athletics.


Maybe we should all go and write terrible reviews on Amazon for his stupid leadership book. That might be fun
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

animal

I get that you all are dying for topics but why dredge up shit from 20 years ago to talk about? Who gives af
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: animal on Apr 12, 2023, 07:00 PMI get that you all are dying for topics but why dredge up shit from 20 years ago to talk about? Who gives af
looks like you're telling Hogslonber to fuck off and wanna start a fight. I'm here for it all
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Hogslobber

My 24 year was old son was asking about him.
He has his engineering degree from the university of Arkansas

John white has given many talks to the engineering students,  he has heard him

He knows a little about his time at the u of a because we have discussed it

Want this make sure I educate him accurately as to what a disaster John white was for our school

I also know an interesting marriage connection here



One Quarter

Quote from: egregious on Apr 12, 2023, 12:19 PMTracking the anals of UA administrators, I had a cousin named John White and my grandmother was Alan Sugg's stepmom.  She didn't become his stepmom until she was about 60, so I doubt it was like in the movies.

random guy named John White, not that one, but the real Alan Sugg

Was he from Jonesboro?

egregious

Quote from: One Quarter on Apr 12, 2023, 09:56 PMWas he from Jonesboro?

No, he lived between Wabash and Barton in Phillips County.  He was actually my Dad's first cousin but he son was Johnny White Jr, my second cousin.
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Cerdo

Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 12, 2023, 06:01 PMThat all may be true, and I am no John White fan, but Nolan hurt himself in so many ways I don't think you can lay his departure on White.  Maybe the hiring of Heath, sure.
You're still buying the bullshit they sold to you 25 years ago. 

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Cerdo on Apr 13, 2023, 08:05 AMYou're still buying the bullshit they sold to you 25 years ago.

I know you don't want to hear this and probably won't believe it, but while much of it was bullshit, some was also true.  Nolan was not squeaky clean.  I can give examples that did not come from Broyles or one of his mouthpieces if you like. 

Ironically pretty much all of the examples would be legal today excluding one big one that could have taken down the banner.  None were morally wrong, but all were against the rules at the time. 

The big problem from the Broyles/White end was that they forced Nolan and/or the boosters to stop doing those things once they came to light.  Recruiting got to the point where no coach could have kept us nationally competitive with those restrictions. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

jdcatty

Quote from: Cerdo on Apr 13, 2023, 08:05 AMYou're still buying the bullshit they sold to you 25 years ago.

Ok, if that's what you want to believe fine.  Remember, I was alive at that time, and witnessed some of the events in real time.  Nolan was no saint.
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Cerdo

Who ever said that Nolan was a saint?  This sounds like a P&R discussion with the "for me or against me" simpleness.    I was on campus during the glory years. I saw that money flow,  just like I have first hand accounts of the money and drugs that were flowing during Nutt and Petrino.  We're talking about SEC ball.

What I'm telling you is that John White used a complicit, lapdog media to feed a bunch of bullshit to the entire state about Nolan and his issues and laziness and uppityness and what have you.  Broyles was a racist and Nolan got tired of being treated that way, because he knew he didn't have to be treated that way after he accomplished what he accomplished.  Orville and McDonnell both had reached a point with age that they weren't afraid of Broyles anymore and weren't afraid to push against the spin.  Everyone else ran with the bullshit.  It persists to this day.