Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[The Whyte Boar]

I can tell you that Petrino will be our next coach.  Why?  Because he will do it for 4.5 to 6 million or less.  That's all it will take to convince any remaining naysayers with influence.  Arkansas will always go cheap. 

[animal]

I'd say Ole Miss is likely very under valued in perception, but no question Auburn historically is the better gig. Mississippi is a state loaded with talent and their only instate competition is Miss State which isn't much account. Auburn sits near the Atlanta market in very talent rich areas...high risk of high competition but high reward as well.

Ever notice how back in the day the only thing really holding back Mississippi talent was that you couldn't get a lot of those kids academically eligible? Yeah that's not really a thing now. 

How did college athletics go from a time where you signed a bunch of kids knowing a lot of them were probably gonna end up in JUCO to now when you sign a kid almost none of them go JUCO at least not right away. Right now we've got a kid Mbake in JUCO so he must be really dumb.

Did academic standards get quietly lowered when they say out loud that they are getting better? I figure the high schools are cooking the books.

[Texzilla]

Will Norvell be the FSU coach tomorrow?

They stupidly extended him last year.  Thru fucking 2031.  His current salary is $9.87mil and escalates each year.  They gave him that to keep him from going to Bama. 

[jdcatty]

They stupidly extended him last year.  Thru fucking 2031.  His current salary is $9.87mil and escalates each year.  They gave him that to keep him from going to Bama. 

I had forgotten that.  Those extensions will get ya'.

[animal]

Norvell is one of those coaches I want to like but he's kind turning into a real stinker. Good on him to get paid the way he has but Jesus he really hitched his wagon to the wrong horse. 

I guess for him the nice thing is FSU just about has to ride it out a while and throw more money at the problem I'm thinking. I guess if Deion does blow up at Colorado they'll be people wanting to "bring him home".

[TC]

Auburn is paying Freeze that amount because that's what it took to get him, and he hasn't done anything yet to justify a raise. 

It's a novel concept for us Hog fans.

Auburn has a dysfunctional alumni base but also has plenty of money and a better recruiting base than Ole Miss.  If both programs are maxing out their potential Auburn is a national champ, while Ole Miss is 10-2. 

Auburn is also a program that's not winning now and hasn't in the last 10 years. Auburn is 85-57 and 2-8 in Bowls over the last decade, and OM is 81-55 and 4-3 in Bowls over that same period. For Kiffin it would be a lateral move at best. Sure, one with significant upside and "potential," but also with great risk. Average 8-9 wins/yr at OM, with the occasional 10 win season, and they'll name streets after him. Do that at Auburn and they'll get restless real quick.

[TC]

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So, because Tuberville left OM for Auburn 25 years ago, that proves what today?

[DirkPiggler]

Auburn is also a program that's not winning now and hasn't in the last 10 years. Auburn is 85-57 and 2-8 in Bowls over the last decade, and OM is 81-55 and 4-3 in Bowls over that same period. For Kiffin it would be a lateral move at best. Sure, one with significant upside and "potential," but also with great risk. Average 8-9 wins/yr at OM, with the occasional 10 win season, and they'll name streets after him. Do that at Auburn and they'll get restless real quick.

The last part of that is true for Kiffin since he's already at Ole Miss, but doesn't mean it's a better job overall. 

If both jobs were open at the same time and there were no extenuating circumstances like pending probation, completely empty roster, etc...Auburn would attract more and better candidates. 

[TC]

The last part of that is true for Kiffin since he's already at Ole Miss, but doesn't mean it's a better job overall. 

If both jobs were open at the same time and there were no extenuating circumstances like pending probation, completely empty roster, etc...Auburn would attract more and better candidates. 

I guess that's one way of looking at it..in a historical sense. But that's not as practical as asking the question, "Which is the better job right now?"

It's Ole Miss, and the trend has been that way for the last few years, and appears that will continue for at least several more.

[Thin Red Swine]

I guess that's one way of looking at it..in a historical sense. But that's not as practical as asking the question, "Which is the better job right now?"

It's Ole Miss, and the trend has been that way for the last few years, and appears that will continue for at least several more.

Wait.

Auburn, which is "not winning now," and STILL has a better record over that 10-year span than Ole Miss, is the inferior program?

You sure that's the point you want to press?

[DirkPiggler]

I guess that's one way of looking at it..in a historical sense. But that's not as practical as asking the question, "Which is the better job right now?"

It's Ole Miss, and the trend has been that way for the last few years, and appears that will continue for at least several more.

In my mind the flaw in your assumption is that it's the program causing the success rather than the guy in charge of it.

Jeff Long made the same mistake in April 2012. 

[Vito Porkleone]

People are conflating "better" job with "prestigious" job.  If I can make better money in a less stressful situation, why would I want the other one.

Auburn is prestigious, but it's not a dream job.  Kiffin is holding out for Bama, and he'll crawl to Tuscaloosa when the man who followed The Man flames out.

[DirkPiggler]

People are conflating "better" job with "prestigious" job.  If I can make better money in a less stressful situation, why would I want the other one.

Auburn is prestigious, but it's not a dream job.  Kiffin is holding out for Bama, and he'll crawl to Tuscaloosa when the man who followed The Man flames out.

I thought he would go to Alabama this time, and still think he would have if offered.

Saban does not like Kiffin for some reason.  I think the only way Kiffin gets that job is after Saban is dead and gone. 

[TC]

Wait.

Auburn, which is "not winning now," and STILL has a better record over that 10-year span than Ole Miss, is the inferior program?

You sure that's the point you want to press?

4 more wins over the last decade and it's the better program...Is that the point you want to press?

Okay, if you want to look at it over the last 5 years then it's Ole Miss with 38 wins vs Auburn with 32.

It's not that big of a deal. I agree that historically Auburn is the better program, and with more prestige than OM, but I think Ole Miss is trending up and right now is a better job than Auburn. If you disagree, that's okay too.

[buff2.0]

It's already week 2, might as well start the carousel

https://x.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1831104135304790397

[piglosopher]

I guess I'm with TC. Auburn is more prestigious, but not necessarily a better job than Ole Miss.

Auburn's delusional fanbase sandwiched between 2 of the sport's dynasties this century is a certain kind of pressure cooker and politicking I can do without. Plus look how they treated Harsin, (who was a bad hire admittedly).

[Barton Fink]

It's already week 2, might as well start the carousel

https://x.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1831104135304790397

If it's enough of a distraction to keep OM out of the playoffs, I'm all for it.

[Lurk]

If it's enough of a distraction to keep OM out of the playoffs, I'm all for it.

I'm not old enough to remember but have talked to older men who hated Ole Miss as bad Texas. The consensus that was stressed is that they were some cheating m-fuckers. They influenced me keep the hate alive. I hope they spend themselves out this year, don't make the playoffs and then Lane bolts.

[Borenutz]

I'm not old enough to remember but have talked to older men who hated Ole Miss as bad Texas. The consensus that was stressed is that they were some cheating m-fuckers. They influenced me keep the hate alive. I hope they spend themselves out this year, don't make the playoffs and then Lane bolts.

Ole Miss fans are extremely pretentious. They could win 8 games and think they're world beaters and LET you know it. When they hired Nutt, they thought they were on top of the world. LOL. Lane will leave, there's no doubt. I do think they have improved their brand as of late though.  Kiffen was a better hire than I thought.

[DrMongoose]

Until a kiffin coached team shows it can beat a top 10 team instead of pissing down its leg, which will be a first, it doesn't matter what job is better does it?