Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[DirkPiggler]

According to the WooPigs, turnovers are a direct reflection of the head coach.

I'm going to be consistent.  I blamed Pittman for the fumbles before (mainly due to the culture and lack of accountability), so Petrino has to at least shoulder some blame.

[Barton Fink]

What could Petrino have done to keep Green from throwing those 3 picks?

If Petrino has any positive characteristics, it's his attention to detail.

[Ray Zorback]

What could Petrino have done to keep Green from throwing those 3 picks? 

Duh, call the smoke draw, no need to pass.

[animal]

What could Petrino have done to keep Green from throwing those 3 picks?

If Petrino has any positive characteristics, it's his attention to detail.

I'm gonna guess Green was confused with the coverage because he made the same mistake at least twice. Durkin may have known how to camouflage just right but also undoubtedly knew Petrino loves those deep outcuts and crossing routes.

Green's biggest issue isn't accuracy. It's pocket presence and anticipating quicker where the ball needs to go and or reading the field and understanding situational football. If he hasn't learned it by now he's not going to. There was one particular play I think it was in the first half where we had a crossing route and he eventually threw to Blake and he threw it so late the defense was there but had he hit it sooner that play was going for decent yardage. That's shit he's got to see.

In saying that...we know Green isn't protected like at all on the right side. Harris has went to shit over there. I think he was better last season. And where are the "young OL that's gonna be hard to keep off the field" we kept hearing about in August?

Also repeatedly Green just couldn't understand he was being spied. I think better QBs find ways of taking advantage of that...if there is a spy that means that's one less guy in coverage.

[The Whyte Boar]

If you can contain Green's legs, he is pretty easy to defend because he will ALMOST never actually pull the trigger on the deep ball.  He did the other day, once and it worked great but even the commentators mentioned guys slipping behind defenders and Green taking the short route.

So, Auburn knew they could gamble on the short stuff because Green won't pull the trigger on the deep stuff.  Petrino's best offenses go downfield and take the top off.  This one doesn't.  It's not a complete offense, the plays have been there.  If Green makes the pass on 4th down against A&M, and it was there, we score and win.  Green is a thinker and not in a good way. 

If I'm channeling Nutt, I would say this team is "so close" but, that doesn't count.  So here we are. 

[Show-Me Hog]

What could Petrino have done to keep Green from throwing those 3 picks?

Play Jackson.

[DirkPiggler]

What could Petrino have done to keep Green from throwing those 3 picks?

If Petrino has any positive characteristics, it's his attention to detail.

More of a macro level than micro.  Maybe bring in a QB with better ability to learn to read defenses?

I'm just trying to be consistent more than anything.  I blamed (and still blame) Sam for the team being soft leading to excessive fumbles.  Trying to be fair even though I like this coach better.

[HTL]

According to the WooPigs, turnovers are a direct reflection of the head coach.

"According to Woopigs, The play of the team is the direct reflection of the head coach."

Real galaxy brain stuff here.

[buff2.0]

If BP gets word before season's end that he is The Guy, I would imagine we will see a lot more of KJ Jackson.

I said this a week or so ago.  If Bobby has certainty of being here next season I think he goes ahead and starts getting KJ the reps instead of hoping Taylen Green can scramble his way into a win.  Again, inaction or lack of planning by HY is hurting us.

[Lurk]

This right here.  I know we lose a lot of the huge runs (KJ isn't a slouch), but man he sees stuff a lot quicker than TG.  I'm all for it.

I hoped he would make the change as soon as he got the job. KJ is way more likely to find a wide open secondary receiver if the primary is covered, tight end/receiver/back when the pocket breaks down.

Green has decided to run two options before that. He completes a lot of passes to receivers that have to turn and face him or stop their route to wait on the ball. If KJ can properly lead the  receivers we've got, we might find out our TEs and WRs are pretty good. We also might be able to keep our defense off the field longer.

There's no reason to keep playing Green now. He's not the reason we're losing, but he's not winning either.

[DirkPiggler]

I hoped he would make the change as soon as he got the job. KJ is way more likely to find a wide open secondary receiver if the primary is covered, tight end/receiver/back when the pocket breaks down.

Green has decided to run two options before that. He completes a lot of passes to receivers that have to turn and face him or stop their route to wait on the ball. If KJ can properly lead the  receivers we've got, we might find out our TEs and WRs are pretty good. We also might be able to keep our defense off the field longer.

There's no reason to keep playing Green now. He's not the reason we're losing, but he's not winning either.

While I disagree that KJ is more likely to check down (simply because we don't know...he might, but we haven't seen it yet), the only thing I'd really add is that Green is also probably still hurt.  Notice how little we ran him Saturday?  I think his leg is still jacked up from when he had to come out for a play against aTm.  If the threat of the run isn't there he becomes pretty much unplayable as a pocket passer. 

[Lurk]

While I disagree that KJ is more likely to check down (simply because we don't know...he might, but we haven't seen it yet), the only thing I'd really add is that Green is also probably still hurt.  Notice how little we ran him Saturday?  I think his leg is still jacked up from when he had to come out for a play against aTm.  If the threat of the run isn't there he becomes pretty much unplayable as a pocket passer. 

We know Green looks for his primary and then looks to run. That is and has been our offense this year. Try something different.

[Feral]

If you can contain Green's legs, he is pretty easy to defend because he will ALMOST never actually pull the trigger on the deep ball. 

Yep.

It's his Achilles heel. He doesn't have the confidence or field vision to throw the deep ball, so he constantly opts for the underneath throws (especially the drag routes) regardless of how well they're covered or down and distance.

The book is out on how to stop Green, and it's why defenses have been so successful adjusting after halftime.

As someone said, you take away his legs and he's a completely neutralized threat as a pocket passer.

[DirkPiggler]

We know Green looks for his primary and then looks to run. That is and has been our offense this year. Try something different.

If he had tried to (or been able to) run more and earlier Saturday we might have won. 

[Lurk]

If he had tried to (or been able to) run more and earlier Saturday we might have won. 

If Green is hurt, all the more reason he should have tried Jackson.

[Texzilla]

If Green is hurt, all the more reason he should have tried Jackson.

Absolutely.  Petrino could have moved to kj on the bye.  Why not?  Season is dead, bench green and figure out if kj is the guy for 26.  Bench other seniors or shitbags and put the chips in.  He hasn't.  Green has no brain for this offense or sec defenses.  Bmfp picked his poison and it's going to cost him his shot.  The turnovers are mental errors, and we blamed the Sam Pittman not their fault culture, but ball security has been a big issue in most of the losses.  No reason to stay loyal to players like green.  Move on. 

[BleedinRed]

If Green is hurt, all the more reason he should have tried Jackson.

In the post game BP said Green was healthy.  

[FNG]

In the post game BP said Green was healthy. 

I heard that but I just wrote it off to BP not wanting to announce to the rest of the schedule that his starting QB has a shaky wheel.

[BleedinRed]

I heard that but I just wrote it off to BP not wanting to announce to the rest of the schedule that his starting QB has a shaky wheel.

I heard it different.  I heard frustration. He all but said green sucked and couldn't make reads and missed receivers and it wasn't because he was injured.  I don't think there is anything wrong with greens legs.  I think he is tired of greens inconsistency in play.  

[FNG]

I think he is tired of greens inconsistency in play. 

Agree completely but I still don't think Green's leg is 100 percent.